Eh, I'm not planning on buying blops 6 at launch, so the buffed mw2 guns give me something to try out for a bit longer in this game since I didn't play MW2022 all that much because I hated the perk system in it.
@@6487ichigothemanafter the visual recoil & gun smoke changes the taq 56 was a lot better imo, it never needed many attachments to do pretty well against other weapons
Tbh the MW2 guns didn't need that many buffs to the base guns they just need to reduce the penalties to the attachments. Why do the barrels increase ads speed by 30-60% 😭
I've only been asking for this since November 10th 2023. Still waiting, or how about the stocks that give you 1% recoil reduction but the MWIII assault rifles get stocks that give 25%+ reductions on a gun that is made for MWIII and has less recoil, visual recoil and smoke than any MWII gun. Make it make sense. 🤔🤷♂️
@@demiurgeusit doesn’t hold true even when weapon tuning was around if tuning only gave a boost so small it’s not noticeable or feasible to counteract the crazy ADS penalties
The buff to the MWII weapons are great, but what they really should do is reduce the heavy penalties on the MWII attachments such as suppressors/muzzles, barrels, etc.
I can't stand that they never reworked the MWII weapons and attachments. No matter how much I want to use them, I feel like I'm at a disadvantage. They can try all they want to buff MWII weapons, but because they never reworked the attachment penalties, handling and movement speeds, they will always feel completely different and from MWIII guns.
Yip, was disappointed on launch night and it's never changed, the penalties and smoke and visual recoil, just never made them viable in comparison. A wasted opportunity for the first game in 20yrs of COD to carry all previous games guns forward to the next.
I use AK74u as my "SMG", but it wasn't that great in MWIII UNTIL the quartermaster silencer was released. Kind of sucks I had to wait that long to use it now, but it's working fine now.
theyve had more power than mw3 weaopons for awhile, alot of their damage profiles were more consistent than mw3 weapons especially at certain ranges (e.g lachman sub always being 5 shots relatively even though the range didnt reach farther than 13m)
@thebesttheworst2277 ya I thought it was just me with the recoil, but I noticed it's more than in MWII. I had to resort to using a 2.5 optic scope because I'm like "where the f are the bullets going"? I have to see how I "missed" my shots. Anyway, I got used to it and doing fine them. As for the visual smoke.. I noticed it in the test range and realized it's a bug.
The ISO 9mm's always been a bit of a sleeper thanks to its controllability and accuracy even though its TTK wasn't exactly good, and now it's a bit of a mini STG44 with that extra range and faster TTK at long range. The BAS-P also feels great and may even go meta.
The only problem remaining is attachments. Most of the MW2 attachments are completely obsolete. Like literally obsolete with how they penalize your handling/movement and even recoil lol. That needs to be taken care of before season 6 ends.
Even if they don't do this I'm not gonna be upset with SH. Regardless of what people think, it is hard to deny that Sledgehammer has absolutely crushed it with this game in so many ways. And while getting rid of pointless MW2 attachments and reducing barrel/mag penalties on them would be nice, I can't say I would make fixing another company's shit show a priority at all in SH's shoes.
It's insane that you're able to get a video out like this with the recoil demos and all the graphics included 2 hours after the update goes live. You seriously do impressive work. Edit: or i guess i can't count cuz it's already been 4 hrs... holy crap that time flew by. Point still stands though, you work crazy fast!
So far, I like the buffs to the FTAC Recon because it's secretly one of the fastest killing guns in the game in full auto, with many hindrances included, such as a 15 round magazine.
Idk if it's a bug but the EMD Grenade is very OP right now the radius explosion is much bigger and each time it tags a enemy, it turns into a advanced UAV.
The MW2 buffs are nice but like others have said, I REALLY wish at least the barrels and magazine penalties could have been reworked for them. This is CoD so a range barrel should not give you 50-60% ads speed penalties and bullets do not weigh fifteen pounds each so you shouldn't have such hefty movement penalties with 10-15 extra rounds. Also, Ace did not include this (maybe because it wasn't in the patch notes) but the Akimbo Reclaimers' fire rate was corrected. They have a great fire rate now, and are much more solid because of it
Me and u bro - except all I need to grind orion is the two new guns. In this next year, since I"m not buying what BO6 is selling, I'll probably play some XD from time to time. But MW3 is in a pretty good place overall, if they just keep the playlists & modes decent.
@@mikeyplayzwrld I am not bad, just averageish. A little above average at some things and a little below at others. And pretty bad at quickscoping. I like to play the objective, and have a WL ratio just over 1.5 playing 95% solo.
I think this patch was made specifically for me. I am trying to wrap up my MW2 multiplayer ultra-mastery and most of the guns I have left were buffed in this patch
In my opinion, here's some buffs I'd add: -The m4 should have the potential to 4 shot kill if 2 shots hit the head instead of 3, that would make it more of a "jack of all trades" gun as the description of it says -The m13c should have a small damage range maybe up to 7.5 metres where it can 4 shot kill if the shots hit the torso -The iso hemlock should have a slight fire rate buff to bump it up to a ttk of 280 m/s instead of 300 at a cost of slightly more recoil and less damage range this would make it more unique compared to the kastov 762 - Taq 56 should have a damage range up to 8 metres where it can 4 shot or it should have a faster firerate to bump its trk up to maybe 300 m/s - Taq v should have either a slight fire rate buff or a headshot buff where 2 shots could give a 3 shot kill - Kastov 74u should have an increase to its 4 shot kill range -Kastov 545 should have a 4 shot kill range -lachman 762 should have a better full auto fire rate buff (ngl the lachman 762 reminds me a lot of the C58 so having its ttk buffed would be nice) -Lachman sub should definitely have a fire rate buff to bump its ttk up to 280 m/s (although the conversion kit for the lachman shroud is better the lachman sub is still more mp5 like) - MX9 should have a damage range of 4.5 metres where it kills in 4 shots (seems a fair range since you can decrease the ttk with 1 headshot) -Vaznev 9k definitely either needs a fire rate buff or a range where it can 4 shot, i mean, there's no point into using that garbage - Fss hurricane deserves a fire rate buff or a small damage range where it 4 shot kills plus a buff to the head multiplier where in the 5 shot kill damage range it can 4 shot This is about it. Also, not a buff or nerf but it would have been nice if they added a conversion kit for the tempus torrent and the riveter that turned them into battle rifles instead of them adding the most unreasonable, stupid goofy ahh kits such as the one for the mors, or the one for the bal 27 which is complete garbage and even a kit that makes the katt amr fire rockets... wtf... if only conversion kits would have been more natural rather than generated by chat gpt...
I think you forgot something. The Jak devastator for the redeemer 12 actually got a noticeable buff unless this was unintended. The delay it had in each shot is completely removed from it.
they just fire at the rate that they were initially shown to have in the announcement trailer for the AMP. I knew there was no way that the delay was intended, bc it just did not make sense to make them bad in EVERY way without touching the akimbo Lockwoods/1887s
@@theshankpain2228 This was a different studio than MW2, that was IW who actually know what a shotgun is and as a result, the shotguns in MW2 (the new one) were without a doubt the best shotguns of any CoD game. Nothing in the whole series beats the Bryson 800 imo and it's not even close.
@@Tiduspecoyou don’t remember when the MX Guardian or the KV Broadside were released, huh? Shipment was sweatier than Christmas in _Vanguard_ with the Combat Shotgun + Incendiary Grenades, lol
I'm very happy about the ftec recon, since it's last buff I've been using it and the initial kick was always the biggest killer, but now that it has less of a kick I think it's boutta be even more dominant
For Black Ops 6, it might be worth making it so the colours for the shots to kill are a gradient, for example it starts at red then slowly changes to yellow then green. Makes it a bit more intuitive.
pretty good job. MW2 guns need a buff, testing a lot of them felt like needed 3 or 4 extra bullets compared to the MW3 contemporaries. I do wish they touched the Mw2 shotguns but oh well.
The JAK Devastators AMP for the Reclaimer 18 secretly had their fire rate massively buffed to match the base gun's semi-auto fire rate. Looks like it might be a little too powerful now lol, though I assume it's unintentional.
@@delusional1423 Yeah I noticed players not showing up a few weeks ago so have kept an eye out as it's happened a lot since then and every single one of them is using the Assassin vest. Gives them a giant advantage as I'm running around with my eyes glued to the mini map when I have an advanced up, obviously.
@@delusional1423 it's probably cost me one or two but have generally been ok as not a huge amount of players use that vest in my lobbies. Just very noticeable when they do as you'll have experienced when you get zinged by someone not on your map. It must be a bug, but I'm concerned it won't be addressed.
I was hoping the LMG and BR buffs would be a bit more exciting. I do still wonder if it's worth running a flinch setup on the M13C - hard to judge when you can't see the effect.
I hated last season mainly because of that. While, though the main playlist wasnt filled with them as much, it was a nightmare in the small map moshpit. You couldn't go a match without at least 3 or 4 people from the enemy team using the static or superi. Last season was one of the seasons to where I felt like for the first time I was brute forced by the meta. Literally couldnt use no other smgs if I really wanted to compete.
A ton of buffs for MWII guns, but nothing on their shotguns. Most of those shotguns are worthless outside of pointblank range, and the barrel attachments slow everything down to a crawl (and still don't help the 1-shot kill range much at all). It was painful trying to grind out some mastery camo kill challenges with those shotguns, far inferior to most MWIII shotguns (MX Guardian was good with Semi-Auto Trigger, but good heavens that barrel slows it down WAY too much).
Much love to SHG 🎉 I loved what they did with Vanguard despite the wrong setting (WWII) but now they absolutely killed it this year - can’t wait for what’s next!
Was hoping they'd buff the AKs a little more. The AK 5.45, 7.62 should have a 4 shot kill potential. They're still great weapons to use though as I've been having a blast with them just like in MWII. Surprised the AN94 isn't getting any nerfs.. it's my meta weapon.
Please can you do a "wrap up" video at the end of MW3 life cicle showing ranges and TTKs for, at least, SMGs, ARs and MGs?? Showing so the final state of the game! It would be great!! 😅
Cheers ACE! Now we just wait, and wait and wait for BO6 - I find myself only playing MW3 to rank up guns for WZ now, the pull to play for fun is just not there.
I found the M13C to be obnoxius unless kitted for recoil, and even then it's overshaddowed. At least it has the death icon removal effect from the blackout ammo
Will you be doing a video on all the guns stats comparisons now we have them all? I'd love that to find out what the best guns are now the weapons stats are different.
the Victus XMR still cannot one shot people in the shoulders or arms and it's like the 3rd slowest sniper in the game. While the KVD Inhibitor can one shot in the arms😭
Been begging SHG on Twitter to buff the Victus XMR and make it one shot anywhere on the body since season 2 but still nothing.. a heavy 50 cal sniper with the slowest rechambering speed in the game shouldn’t be a hit marker machine.
To me the nerf really sucks because I like to play 6 vs 6 against the bots at 130 health, and what was really insane about the STG44 pre nerf is that it was a 3 shot kill at 130 health. Now it's a 4 shot kill at 130 health which actually puts it at a disadvantage when you have guns like a MTZ-556, or MCW that can kill in 4 shots at 130 health and have much higher RoF.
Can we get a comparison between the (updated) Basilisk and the MW3 revolver by default, with the attatchment, in akimbo because that does change their stats, and also with snakeshot equipped?
I wish my gun levels transferred when I switched from battlenet to steam on the same Activision account. I had every MWII gun max level and now they’re all level 0 without the camos I unlocked. I can’t be the only one with this problem. The only reason I wanted to play this update is not there unless this is fixed somehow.
I will still hold on to and hope thay buff the impact point barrel and stocks for the x13 auto sidearm to make it a little more manageable with the side to side bounce if thay do something for that side to side it would be so much better
Maybe im tripping, but i feel like they reduced the visual recoil of the M4 a little bit. As a sidenote, they really have to get rid of those massive penalties on the MW2 attachments. No way in hell i use a barrel that gives me a 40% ADS nerf.
close but this is the definitive rating: treyarch > sledgehammer > pre 2019 infinity ward (infinite warfare zombies and mw campaigns) > raven (they did exo zombies)
Goats of what? Making shit? This new age MW trilogy is complete ass. And all shg cods are ass. Except AW. IW is the goat for the og MW trilogy alone then treyarch but Bo3 was also ass.
@@AKK5IFunny you say it isn't their franchise & while technically right, the OG MW3 was a dual project with IW & SHG. So of all the MWs SHG is allowed to be a part of, it seems to be 3 is the magic number. But I definitely agree, SHG definitely has been cooking with MWIII.
Even when activision fucks up sledgehammers final season, they still do something the community asked for. Idc if its too late, at least they DID buff the damn guns
I haven't played cod since march... I really need to finish the mw3 guns that have came out since then before bo6 drops (i did play the bo6 beta I'm talking about mw3) i have orion on all the mw2 guns so now i need to get interstellar on the dlc guns since march
MW2 gun buffs would have been cool 5 seasons ago
Eh, I'm not planning on buying blops 6 at launch, so the buffed mw2 guns give me something to try out for a bit longer in this game since I didn't play MW2022 all that much because I hated the perk system in it.
They were usable yes but outgun by the MW3 weapons practically.
@@InvntdXNEWROMAN literally there’s nothing special from using them
Makes sense they want people to use new guns and wait till the game is over, still dumb tho
@@6487ichigothemanafter the visual recoil & gun smoke changes the taq 56 was a lot better imo, it never needed many attachments to do pretty well against other weapons
Tbh the MW2 guns didn't need that many buffs to the base guns they just need to reduce the penalties to the attachments. Why do the barrels increase ads speed by 30-60% 😭
Some good old IW balancing
I think it’s because they were balanced around weapon tuning, you could take care of that part of the attachment in mw2 but not in 3
I've only been asking for this since November 10th 2023.
Still waiting, or how about the stocks that give you 1% recoil reduction but the MWIII assault rifles get stocks that give 25%+ reductions on a gun that is made for MWIII and has less recoil, visual recoil and smoke than any MWII gun.
Make it make sense. 🤔🤷♂️
2% recoil reduction at the cost of a 70% ADS penalty 😂
@@demiurgeusit doesn’t hold true even when weapon tuning was around if tuning only gave a boost so small it’s not noticeable or feasible to counteract the crazy ADS penalties
The buff to the MWII weapons are great, but what they really should do is reduce the heavy penalties on the MWII attachments such as suppressors/muzzles, barrels, etc.
No here’s a 70% ADS and movement penalty for putting on a barrel
@@LeviBarnorbut we'll give you a whopping 10% range increase and 5% recoil control bonus to compensate for it.
This will be essential when black ops 6 gets integrated into warzone
why does it even matter at this point? you can just use mw3 attachments on the mw2 guns, they're way better?
@@HyperDarkmoon Because the attachment system is cluttered with a ton of useless attachments. They really need to revamp them or just remove them
I can't stand that they never reworked the MWII weapons and attachments. No matter how much I want to use them, I feel like I'm at a disadvantage. They can try all they want to buff MWII weapons, but because they never reworked the attachment penalties, handling and movement speeds, they will always feel completely different and from MWIII guns.
Yip, was disappointed on launch night and it's never changed, the penalties and smoke and visual recoil, just never made them viable in comparison.
A wasted opportunity for the first game in 20yrs of COD to carry all previous games guns forward to the next.
I use AK74u as my "SMG", but it wasn't that great in MWIII UNTIL the quartermaster silencer was released. Kind of sucks I had to wait that long to use it now, but it's working fine now.
theyve had more power than mw3 weaopons for awhile, alot of their damage profiles were more consistent than mw3 weapons especially at certain ranges (e.g lachman sub always being 5 shots relatively even though the range didnt reach farther than 13m)
@thebesttheworst2277 ya I thought it was just me with the recoil, but I noticed it's more than in MWII. I had to resort to using a 2.5 optic scope because I'm like "where the f are the bullets going"? I have to see how I "missed" my shots.
Anyway, I got used to it and doing fine them. As for the visual smoke.. I noticed it in the test range and realized it's a bug.
@@KiryokuYT The solution is hardcore.
Took them an entire year to properly balance the mwii weapons? This should have been done before the game even launched…ridiculous.
Get what you want and still complain LOL
Because they wanted us to use their new mw3 weapons obviously. It was clearly a choice
Better late than never i guess...
Nah, they waited till their season weapons had a run.
Need to sell those blueprints somehow…
The ISO 9mm's always been a bit of a sleeper thanks to its controllability and accuracy even though its TTK wasn't exactly good, and now it's a bit of a mini STG44 with that extra range and faster TTK at long range. The BAS-P also feels great and may even go meta.
I love the bas p man
I guess I have to try the iso 9mm out now and see how it feels tomorrow
I enjoyed using the ISO 9mm pre patch more than expected and found it was deadly in tac stance, will be interested to try it out in the new update
The only problem remaining is attachments. Most of the MW2 attachments are completely obsolete. Like literally obsolete with how they penalize your handling/movement and even recoil lol.
That needs to be taken care of before season 6 ends.
Even if they don't do this I'm not gonna be upset with SH. Regardless of what people think, it is hard to deny that Sledgehammer has absolutely crushed it with this game in so many ways. And while getting rid of pointless MW2 attachments and reducing barrel/mag penalties on them would be nice, I can't say I would make fixing another company's shit show a priority at all in SH's shoes.
It's insane that you're able to get a video out like this with the recoil demos and all the graphics included 2 hours after the update goes live. You seriously do impressive work.
Edit: or i guess i can't count cuz it's already been 4 hrs... holy crap that time flew by. Point still stands though, you work crazy fast!
It's his job. His family's income depends on him releasing content on time.
@@Paper323does that make it less impressive??? What does this comment add lmao
@@ohnobro3770 tbh yeah it would be more impressive if he pumped out these videos as a hobby instead of it being his full time job.
@@Paper323 Making it a full time job is the most impressive part. We only get so many hours in the day.
Now the final MWIII update should adjust all MWII attachments and it’ll be perfect 👌🏽
so nice to have all these massive gun balance changes on the final season of the game.
So far, I like the buffs to the FTAC Recon because it's secretly one of the fastest killing guns in the game in full auto, with many hindrances included, such as a 15 round magazine.
Hey they buffed M14 EBR! So now up-close its 2-shots to kill without the need for headshot. How generous of them.
The M13C has a higher headshot multiplier in single shot. One to the head and at least two to the torso for a 3-shot kill.
@@Honeneko. That's definitely good to know. My dad might go back to using it again.
@@Leothecat2wayno I wont.
@@HcKingPin ???
@@Leothecat2wayhes forcefully adopting you
I've actually never used this weapon, I've been using the M13B though and it's great.
The Carrack .300 is like Rocky from Rocky 2, “I’m standing here, I’m still standing here” lol
Rival 9 Headhunter kit, still OP AF
As it should. Love that gun
Does it give me head?
Bet ima try that out today
🤫🛑🫷
Don't be touching that or my JAK DM56 Signal burst.
Those 1 burst satisfaction kills never get old. 😏
Headhunter I like that name reminds of my ex
Idk if it's a bug but the EMD Grenade is very OP right now the radius explosion is much bigger and each time it tags a enemy, it turns into a advanced UAV.
That was a buff to it at the start of last season iirc.
The MW2 buffs are nice but like others have said, I REALLY wish at least the barrels and magazine penalties could have been reworked for them. This is CoD so a range barrel should not give you 50-60% ads speed penalties and bullets do not weigh fifteen pounds each so you shouldn't have such hefty movement penalties with 10-15 extra rounds.
Also, Ace did not include this (maybe because it wasn't in the patch notes) but the Akimbo Reclaimers' fire rate was corrected. They have a great fire rate now, and are much more solid because of it
Justice to the lockwood mk2 it is out competed by the tyr in evey way buff lockwood!
Lockwood akimbo is a gas
I agree. I don't want anything like akimbo.
@@remnseaI'm talking about the base version
while i did love that gun in MW19, this game already has enough one shot stuff in it lol
Now I can start grinding weapon mastery camos for MW2 guns. Need something to do for the next year...
Me and u bro - except all I need to grind orion is the two new guns. In this next year, since I"m not buying what BO6 is selling, I'll probably play some XD from time to time. But MW3 is in a pretty good place overall, if they just keep the playlists & modes decent.
BO6 is better
@@cheponisJust say you’re bad at the game
@@mikeyplayzwrld Game isn't even out yet, you really just saying that for the sake of speaking
@@mikeyplayzwrld I am not bad, just averageish. A little above average at some things and a little below at others. And pretty bad at quickscoping. I like to play the objective, and have a WL ratio just over 1.5 playing 95% solo.
WOW TY! This had to have taken a lot of work. Thank you so much for doing this for us! Much appreciated as always!
A little too late, they should been brought the MW2 weapon up the level of MW3 weapons because now we’re just waiting on BO6 to release
Not me. I never buy Treyarch games at launch, if at all.
I'll stay with MW3 until a third Zombies map launches for BO6
@@InvntdXNEWROMANtrash taste
I think this patch was made specifically for me. I am trying to wrap up my MW2 multiplayer ultra-mastery and most of the guns I have left were buffed in this patch
Can you make a video on the best guns after this update
In my opinion, here's some buffs I'd add:
-The m4 should have the potential to 4 shot kill if 2 shots hit the head instead of 3, that would make it more of a "jack of all trades" gun as the description of it says
-The m13c should have a small damage range maybe up to 7.5 metres where it can 4 shot kill if the shots hit the torso
-The iso hemlock should have a slight fire rate buff to bump it up to a ttk of 280 m/s instead of 300 at a cost of slightly more recoil and less damage range this would make it more unique compared to the kastov 762
- Taq 56 should have a damage range up to 8 metres where it can 4 shot or it should have a faster firerate to bump its trk up to maybe 300 m/s
- Taq v should have either a slight fire rate buff or a headshot buff where 2 shots could give a 3 shot kill
- Kastov 74u should have an increase to its 4 shot kill range
-Kastov 545 should have a 4 shot kill range
-lachman 762 should have a better full auto fire rate buff (ngl the lachman 762 reminds me a lot of the C58 so having its ttk buffed would be nice)
-Lachman sub should definitely have a fire rate buff to bump its ttk up to 280 m/s (although the conversion kit for the lachman shroud is better the lachman sub is still more mp5 like)
- MX9 should have a damage range of 4.5 metres where it kills in 4 shots (seems a fair range since you can decrease the ttk with 1 headshot)
-Vaznev 9k definitely either needs a fire rate buff or a range where it can 4 shot, i mean, there's no point into using that garbage
- Fss hurricane deserves a fire rate buff or a small damage range where it 4 shot kills plus a buff to the head multiplier where in the 5 shot kill damage range it can 4 shot
This is about it. Also, not a buff or nerf but it would have been nice if they added a conversion kit for the tempus torrent and the riveter that turned them into battle rifles instead of them adding the most unreasonable, stupid goofy ahh kits such as the one for the mors, or the one for the bal 27 which is complete garbage and even a kit that makes the katt amr fire rockets... wtf... if only conversion kits would have been more natural rather than generated by chat gpt...
The vasnev is actually pretty good. The only thing I agree with is the 545, 74u and taq v
@@MrKing-he3eo honestly the vaznev is just mid :/
@@yourdailyaveragemat I had lots of success using it. Its ttk is average but not bad alongside good accuracy
It would be nice if sledge changes the visual recoil on the m4
@@arnaldomaldonado4467 yh i agree with that
I think you forgot something. The Jak devastator for the redeemer 12 actually got a noticeable buff unless this was unintended. The delay it had in each shot is completely removed from it.
they just fire at the rate that they were initially shown to have in the announcement trailer for the AMP. I knew there was no way that the delay was intended, bc it just did not make sense to make them bad in EVERY way without touching the akimbo Lockwoods/1887s
Why will they not buff slug shotguns? They were actually fun
Cause sadly they have no idea what a shotgun is and refuse to fix any of the MW2 shotguns.
They apparently hate shotguns in general. These are some of the worst shotguns I’ve ever had the displeasure of using. Mw2 and mw3.
@@theshankpain2228 the fuck are you smoking man, MWII shotguns were goated. Possibly competing for the best shotguns as a whole ever were in CoD
@@theshankpain2228 This was a different studio than MW2, that was IW who actually know what a shotgun is and as a result, the shotguns in MW2 (the new one) were without a doubt the best shotguns of any CoD game. Nothing in the whole series beats the Bryson 800 imo and it's not even close.
@@Tiduspecoyou don’t remember when the MX Guardian or the KV Broadside were released, huh? Shipment was sweatier than Christmas in _Vanguard_ with the Combat Shotgun + Incendiary Grenades, lol
Ace is happy about this because it gives him extra content to cover with every update.
Thanks for the updates. It really helps in sorting through which guns to try.
Nice to see the tr76 get a buff. At 282 ms ttk it feels like the og tar 21
The Lockwood 300 needs a buff
Idk if this is true or not but the jak devastators feel like they shoot faster now after s6
I'm very happy about the ftec recon, since it's last buff I've been using it and the initial kick was always the biggest killer, but now that it has less of a kick I think it's boutta be even more dominant
Of course Sledgehammer waits until the month before Black Ops 6 to focus on balancing MW2 weapons. Could've gotten some intern to do this months ago.
A new top 5 is on order ace
For Black Ops 6, it might be worth making it so the colours for the shots to kill are a gradient, for example it starts at red then slowly changes to yellow then green. Makes it a bit more intuitive.
pretty good job.
MW2 guns need a buff, testing a lot of them felt like needed 3 or 4 extra bullets compared to the MW3 contemporaries. I do wish they touched the Mw2 shotguns but oh well.
they fixed sab and spr but forgor about mk2😫😫😫
Wow, the BAS-P is finally a viable smg, I may actually use it now
The JAK Devastators AMP for the Reclaimer 18 secretly had their fire rate massively buffed to match the base gun's semi-auto fire rate. Looks like it might be a little too powerful now lol, though I assume it's unintentional.
Yep that’s great! I did it by accident in game and noticed that right away
Still no mention that the Assassin Vest hides players from Advanced UAV's now.
Yo fr? I was hella confused earlier
What doesn’t it do? I’m surprised players use anything else…knowing where your enemies are is the most important information to have.
@@delusional1423 Yeah I noticed players not showing up a few weeks ago so have kept an eye out as it's happened a lot since then and every single one of them is using the Assassin vest. Gives them a giant advantage as I'm running around with my eyes glued to the mini map when I have an advanced up, obviously.
@@steerj07 this happened to me yesterday killed me off my nuke
@@delusional1423 it's probably cost me one or two but have generally been ok as not a huge amount of players use that vest in my lobbies. Just very noticeable when they do as you'll have experienced when you get zinged by someone not on your map. It must be a bug, but I'm concerned it won't be addressed.
I was hoping the LMG and BR buffs would be a bit more exciting.
I do still wonder if it's worth running a flinch setup on the M13C - hard to judge when you can't see the effect.
It's about time they nerfed the STG, Static HV and Superi. Last season felt so limiting
Static HV looks still pretty good. Might need a new go-to, tho.
I hated last season mainly because of that. While, though the main playlist wasnt filled with them as much, it was a nightmare in the small map moshpit. You couldn't go a match without at least 3 or 4 people from the enemy team using the static or superi. Last season was one of the seasons to where I felt like for the first time I was brute forced by the meta. Literally couldnt use no other smgs if I really wanted to compete.
I was worried you weren’t gonna break down the modern warfare 2 weapons at all so thank you for doing it anyway！
Ace can we get a streak-killing update please? The KATT rocket kit and the new LMG look like they could shake things up a little!
Looking forward to trying out the M13C again. Always loved the look of the gun but it felt like a hindrance because of its bouncy recoil.
great reporting, ace, as always. honestly, i feel like you are the only source i need for the gun guides. again, w video.
Glad they didn’t nerf my favorite smg, the minibak. Definitely the one gun I’m gonna get the final mastery camo on if any
Its crazy hearing "8 shot kill potential" in the same video talking about "4 shot kill ranges"
Why would I use any of these?
you should make one final video defining the metas for mw3
I’m so happy to see Wii marksman rifles buffed t one useful again!
Do these buffs have an affect for people who only play mwII?
Nope, MWIII only
So it's for MWIII, but it affects guns that were in MWII
A ton of buffs for MWII guns, but nothing on their shotguns. Most of those shotguns are worthless outside of pointblank range, and the barrel attachments slow everything down to a crawl (and still don't help the 1-shot kill range much at all). It was painful trying to grind out some mastery camo kill challenges with those shotguns, far inferior to most MWIII shotguns (MX Guardian was good with Semi-Auto Trigger, but good heavens that barrel slows it down WAY too much).
Much love to SHG 🎉 I loved what they did with Vanguard despite the wrong setting (WWII) but now they absolutely killed it this year - can’t wait for what’s next!
I’ve been using the chimera since the buff and it feels really good
It stinks that the MWII shotguns got no love. They still need some adjustments all around.
they need to buff the frickiong MW2 barrel attachments... they give like +15% range but add a whopping 45% ADS time
I knew they did something to all those weapons. The difference is massive. MWII guns are now usable and STG feels a little more spongey.
The spr-208 could use lil more buff to it but by side that they kinda needs be buff to keep up
Was hoping they'd buff the AKs a little more. The AK 5.45, 7.62 should have a 4 shot kill potential. They're still great weapons to use though as I've been having a blast with them just like in MWII. Surprised the AN94 isn't getting any nerfs.. it's my meta weapon.
Please can you do a "wrap up" video at the end of MW3 life cicle showing ranges and TTKs for, at least, SMGs, ARs and MGs?? Showing so the final state of the game! It would be great!! 😅
1:30 I think you got the MW2019 and MWII models mixed up in the image!
No one cares lil bruh
Cheers ACE! Now we just wait, and wait and wait for BO6 - I find myself only playing MW3 to rank up guns for WZ now, the pull to play for fun is just not there.
Imagine buffing a ton of modern warfare 2 guns at the very end of the game's life 🙃
Really happy to hear the torrent was buff, that thing was a marshmallow cannon for most of the game’s lifecycle
I found the M13C to be obnoxius unless kitted for recoil, and even then it's overshaddowed. At least it has the death icon removal effect from the blackout ammo
Will you be doing a video on all the guns stats comparisons now we have them all? I'd love that to find out what the best guns are now the weapons stats are different.
NOOOOOOOOOO WHY THE STG 44?!? I just discovered that thing!
the Victus XMR still cannot one shot people in the shoulders or arms and it's like the 3rd slowest sniper in the game. While the KVD Inhibitor can one shot in the arms😭
Been begging SHG on Twitter to buff the Victus XMR and make it one shot anywhere on the body since season 2 but still nothing.. a heavy 50 cal sniper with the slowest rechambering speed in the game shouldn’t be a hit marker machine.
sab is one shot kill to the chest with smg mobility
Shhhh 😜
To me the nerf really sucks because I like to play 6 vs 6 against the bots at 130 health, and what was really insane about the STG44 pre nerf is that it was a 3 shot kill at 130 health. Now it's a 4 shot kill at 130 health which actually puts it at a disadvantage when you have guns like a MTZ-556, or MCW that can kill in 4 shots at 130 health and have much higher RoF.
Are these adjustments the same across warzone n multiplayer?
Yay... MW2 gun buffs that should have happened 6 months ago
So happy they waited until AFTER I finished the weapon mastery challenges for the MWII guns to seriously start buffing them 😅
now they just need to buff the MWII attachments
Basilisk was already an amazing pistol with the long barrel and fast trigger so it’s going to be op now
Im ready to try a MW2 gun again, i qas using the M13B, what does everyone think the best new buffed MW2 weapon is?
great to see they still care!
Can we get a comparison between the (updated) Basilisk and the MW3 revolver by default, with the attatchment, in akimbo because that does change their stats, and also with snakeshot equipped?
I wish my gun levels transferred when I switched from battlenet to steam on the same Activision account. I had every MWII gun max level and now they’re all level 0 without the camos I unlocked. I can’t be the only one with this problem. The only reason I wanted to play this update is not there unless this is fixed somehow.
They definitely updated Orion with this update as well it’s never looked better
I realized after years of developer's manipulation, I can't tolerate core TDM. Hardcore TDM is my life now and I'm happy.
Ace are these stats only for Core, or does it apply to HC?
they apply to both core and hardcore.
I will still hold on to and hope thay buff the impact point barrel and stocks for the x13 auto sidearm to make it a little more manageable with the side to side bounce if thay do something for that side to side it would be so much better
Noo love to the minibank! 😢😢
Maybe im tripping, but i feel like they reduced the visual recoil of the M4 a little bit. As a sidenote, they really have to get rid of those massive penalties on the MW2 attachments. No way in hell i use a barrel that gives me a 40% ADS nerf.
Are those changes to MW II guns going to change DMZ weapons performance?
no.
What a dope patch !!
SHG getting shit on my Activision but still taking 1 final W to end off MWIII. That's why they are the goats 🐐
close but this is the definitive rating:
treyarch > sledgehammer > pre 2019 infinity ward (infinite warfare zombies and mw campaigns) > raven (they did exo zombies)
Goats of what? Making shit? This new age MW trilogy is complete ass. And all shg cods are ass. Except AW. IW is the goat for the og MW trilogy alone then treyarch but Bo3 was also ass.
@@marcelluscunningham8272your high. Bo3 was excellent. Sledgehammer isn’t as bad as people act, they just get shafted a lot.
This isn't even their franchise yet they do their best to cook as always
@@AKK5IFunny you say it isn't their franchise & while technically right, the OG MW3 was a dual project with IW & SHG. So of all the MWs SHG is allowed to be a part of, it seems to be 3 is the magic number. But I definitely agree, SHG definitely has been cooking with MWIII.
They want people to use the carrack so bad lmao
Perfect! Just in time to almost complete orion
This should have been a season 1 buff for mwII weapons
🟢 ACE, which guns are the best for Hardcore modes?? Could you respond with the top 3 recommendations please.
The Spas 12 shotgun jak kit is now spammable
Are the STG and Static still viable for warzone ?
Even when activision fucks up sledgehammers final season, they still do something the community asked for. Idc if its too late, at least they DID buff the damn guns
I haven't played cod since march... I really need to finish the mw3 guns that have came out since then before bo6 drops (i did play the bo6 beta I'm talking about mw3) i have orion on all the mw2 guns so now i need to get interstellar on the dlc guns since march
Love the videos ace. My best wishes to the family
Guess I have to play more old weapons again.
They waited for the last season to buff MW2 guns!!! Man come on
hipfiring the new explosive sniper on shipment is good fun