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How Fast Is My Supercharged Honda S2000?
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- Опубликовано: 5 июн 2018
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I'm finally driving my supercharged S2000! Which leads to four questions: 1) How is it to drive? 2) How fast is it - real world, not dyno results? 3) Is it worth the cost to supercharge an S2000? 4. Why did I choose to supercharge my S2000 rather than other options?
From a driving aspect, what I like about the modified S2000 is that it maintains a lot of the stock refinement; it doesn't feel significantly modified car from a drive-ability standpoint, it's just as street-able as it always has been (or hasn't been). It's just faster!
To test how much faster, I used the same method I've been using since I bought the S2000. I use a VBOX sport and accelerate on the same road in the same direction, in the same gear from 10 mph to 60 mph, and measure the improvement in acceleration in increments of 5 mph. The video includes full details of test results!
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Hope you all enjoyed the review of the car! Still just as ready as ever for "sharp bends ahead," but now with a little more pep! If you're interested in the install & dyno testing videos, here are links:
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Congratulations on a successful stage one build and run! Do you use a lightened flywheel? Would that help this type engine? Congrats on slipping that ticket as well. 😂
Engineering Explained how does this effect the vtec?
Trill Mixin, It doesn't. The stock ECU is still controlling the VTEC without any changes, it may fully engage at a slightly higher rpm because the engine revs up more quickly, but it comes on at the same RPM as it always has. It does make it more effective as volumetric efficiency is increased because of the supercharger.
To say adding 80whp to a car around the weigh of an S2K is not a lot? I'd say that compared to the weigh to power ratio of most cars today adding 80whp to an S2K makes it more than fast enough for most people.
I know how much horsepower you gained but,how much did it cost?
You know you're watching engineering explained when there's a guy showing us a graph with his arm whilst driving😂
“Oh goodness, we’re getting wild.” Made me laugh so hard.
What harsh language. And here I thought this was a family channel!!
Downhill at the speed limit into a sharp corner...
_Watch yo profanity..._
*xD*
Brodie Bennett 😂😂😂😂😂
We need that on an EE shirt. A pic of that s2000 on the front with “ oh goodness, we’re getting wild.” underneath it
"Its now slightly more useless than originally"
Gotta love honesty
Thanks for the heart! in all honesty I completely understand the lack of low end torque owning an rx8 myself. There is just something about an engine screaming at 9000 rpm.
or 8250 RPM in a V8 : )
Xavier Hébert you dont know about no low end torque till you own an ae86 but it's about the revs
Harold Ortiz the problem with the 8250 in that v8 is you're doing a minimum of 55mph at that rpm :P But when you do get to unleash it, good god is it amazing.
hah, my 2l diesel is all torque! it somehow pulls harder in 4th than 3rd ... but it's a blast uphill!
Adding power will reduce the life of the glove box latch
Apparently so! 😂
DUDE YES
That’s great😂 the driver side visor is also prone to failing too. Definitely gotta invest in a stake 3 latch.
Good thing my glove box can lock.
All jokes aside Honda does make bad glove box latches (in my experience). Not that it matters to me, I keep my registration on the visor anyway.
“Just” an increase of 80hp.
So modest.
drink15 and that's more than what my car made
When you consider the cost it is modest. I got at least that much out of a tune alone and 110 ft lbs of torque at about 10% the cost. 3.5 Ecoboost MKS
HymezKidd does the MKS drive any good? all the tuned SHOs I've seen couldn't shake the weight
Kystify You'll probably hear this a lot from us MKS and SHO owners. But considering the weight the handling, cornering and acceleration is pretty impressive. It's obviously not a 2 door s2000 sport coupe. It's a full size sedan. These Boats however are making their way into high 11s with relatively mild mods. The tune alone being the biggest gains. Exhaust and downpipes next. Mid-Low 12s is pretty much standard for these cars tuned.
HymezKidd yeah but look at percentages gained. Its a tiny engine
This video, more than any, has given us a view of the real Jason; and I can appreciate that. Glad to see you love it, especially since you did the work by yourself.
Jason: "I accelerated to redline in 1st through 4th, hitting a maximum speed of 35mph at 9k rpm in 4th"
Beat me to it - wanted to comment how awesome that thing sounds at only 35mph! I want one!
:D
If you had seen the whole video, you would have noticed how he reached 4th gear redline, but he wasn't speeding, he was just going 35 mph because that's the speed limit! haha
You're forgetting the chanced final drive ratio!!!!!!!
LolitsMarcin it goes more than 35 at redline in 1st... He was being facetious.
Thanks! You inspired me to supercharged my S2000 CR and it handles like a dream... in Forza Motorsports.
Haha, excellent!
Live the dream one way or another!
Cars Simplified You are definitely right! Hahaha!
I always go for a fully decked out N/A S2000 in Forza Motorsport. Revving the engine to 10K+ is madness, and the 400+ N/A horse power isn't that bad, either.
That made me giggle.
Not all heroes wear capes, some flash their headlights.
Seriously!
lol
Engineering Explained I just gotta ask, how did you know he meant that? I wouldn't have figured that out myself. I mean, I'm only 16, so I gave a lot to learn.
Derpu Wolf - That's the internationally accepted car language for "there's a cop ahead". In every country i've been to it's the same.
Derpu Wolf - You just sort of 'know'. Especially if you're in a sporty car, and especially if you were just speeding so you're more alert than usual as you're thinking about the fact there might be cops around. It becomes instinctive
How can anyone not like this video. Superb technical data, backed up by verifiable facts.
And look how much fun he's having. Great video.
Carry on bro👊
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks!!
Lack of rear diff upgrade from 4.11:1 to something like 3.90:1 .
You run out of gear with the stock set up. 150 and 8000 rpm or something like 25-30mph in 6th gear at 3000rpm.
It freaking sucks. 1st is useless and i'd rather not me at 4000rpm at 70mph.
I've been watching your channel since the beginning and you never cease to bring back that feeling of joy and wonder I get from being a fellow motor-head and engineering geek. I make spreadsheets when I buy anything and compare data, and your Crosstek sheet looked just like mine lol. Definitely a kindred spirit who gets a lot out of your scientific approach and honest candor. Thanks for doing this! Super happy for you and your S2K project and agree with the comments and reasoning behind why you did what you did modification/SC/boost-wise. It's like playing an RPG and leveling up slowly and tracking the changes vs skipping straight to the end game and not enjoying the journey in-between. Thanks again!
Ha, can definitely relate to what you're saying, glad you're enjoying the series!
HEY BROTHER
Much fast, all power, go woosh
HumbleMechanic Great job on that install.
DUDE!! How am I not subscribed to you channel??? Doing it now!
Harold Ortiz get on it jeez
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But only go whoosh to 35 miles an hour ;) Excellent install, fantastic results!
"Does it sounds as good as a GT350 screaming at 8000 RPM?" LOL It may not sounds as good but screaming at 9k RPM in the S2000 is no slacker. Sounds great! Good job. Love how clean the installation looks.
Thanks!! I do love that GT350 haha.
OpTiC memeuana420 hahahahaha! The k slipped in there. I'll corrected before youtubers have an internet meltdown
Drove a GT 350 today can confirm sound is pristine.
Harold Ortiz technically 8800 rpm
the S600 this car is based on redlined at 9700 rpm… that's screaming!
I like and appreciate the rounded edge and slight blur transition on your picture-in-picture shots. Just that little touch makes that kind of video look so much better.
This is one of my dream setups, so I’m particularly excited about this video. I love that sound. I’m very much of the same mindset regarding incremental gains. And the benefits to the drivetrain are huge for me. If I ever did it I’d want to really drive this car as, you know, a real, street legal car. Also, the fact that the kit is reversible is awesome.
Gilbert Tang what engine is in that car?
F20C probably, Its an AP1.
Let's talk about the radar detector you're installing next.
grin and bear it - Valentine 1!
How wrong you are, Andrew.
Stxn and good ones detect laser checks for speed too.
Stxn Are your better product mentions working on their own? I already run the torque app a lot on a second old phone, I wouldn't want a 3rd phone just to run some radar constantly!
Yes, Uniden R series is standalone.
i like the ultra-scientific approach to car modification. I don't feel like many people are doing cars with this much physics explained on youtube and i'm living for it
"Oh goodness we're getting wild"
My gosh
Living vicariously through you! Wish my brz was boosted! Glad to see you having fun!!!
BRZs are great fun, awesome choice!
Engineering Explained Jason for the fa20 in the brz would you PD supercharge it or centrifugal supercharge it? I only ask because our engine characteristics are similar. I'm torn between the Jackson racing kit and edelbrock PD kit.
Engineering Explained If the BRZ were a roadster, I’d go that route.
alex moore I know the feeling. I badly wish I could afford to drop $5k on the Jackson Racing supercharger for my FR-S
Jaime7188 start saving your pennies. To me it's the most complete forced induction kit for the fa20. My only issue is lack of torque but I'm willing to sacrifice that for reliability.
Im at 594whp on my stock long block s2k. Its a 6262 @17 psi . Only modification is i did dual valve springs and retainers. 1700 cc injectors walbro 450. aem infinity. I did not lose any of the engine characteristics that makes the s2k fun to drive. And ive been on my set up for 3 years now i daily drive it 80 miles a day and track it on the weekends. Only issue ive had was a crack on my intercooler end tank.
Crazy power, must be a blast!! :)
Wow! That's impressive! My friend has a Precision 6262 on a BMW 335i making ~500 whp @17psi
What turbo kit are you using?
No drivetrain issues? Our turbo S2000 on around 400whp breaks gearboxes and diffs all the time
damn you daily drive on E85?
Nice, my turbo miata is kind of the opposite, i have a lot of torque from 2800rpm to 6750rpm with
I have thrown a rod from that engine, didn't have coolant reroute.
Boost doesn't affect internals as much as people think because its all compressive load which the rods are far better at handling. However deck thickness,open or closed deck, head gasket, head bolts location and number of head bolts , strength/diameter of the head bolts and the ability of the exhaust valves to disperse the added heat are the things that will kill a engine when you add boost to a non boosted engine.
Great info added!
What do you mean by the rods are better at handling a compressive load?
It takes a lot more force to break or bend a rod by compressing it than it does to stretch it which can happen easily when you increase RPM to make more power however with boost your RPM's stays the same. So a N/A engine that could only handle 400hp on stock rods might be able to handle 700hp on boost because boost only adds extra load/force pushing down on the rods and it a lot harder to smash a rod into its self then it is to bend or stretch it.
Engineering Explained I agree completely. I hope he checks out my series about engines and leaves as good of a comment!
I’ve been watching you for years and have learned a lot from you and your channel. You made me more confident in working on my own car. I own an E46 and I’m currently building it up to be something I’m very happy with like you’re with your S2000. But it is one hell of a build... almost like a second job 😂. The smile on your face when you drive your S2000 is what I’m aiming for.
Dude, the audio is amazingly good for having your top down. 👏👏👏
Love this guy, so intelligent but find such simplistic way for us less mathematical minds to clearly understand what he is saying and how things work without feeling like Charlie Brown.
On my favorite road on this earth. Bogus Basin road is 14 miles of endless tight turns with a view that is so expansive it will literally redefine what a mountain road should be.
No it is a boring road
No one move here
Is that where he was? Where is Bogus Basin rd.?
Exactly: Everyone decided to move to Oregon as well, so basically, if you really do enjoy driving, it's now a good 2.5 hours to get out and away from all the subaru outback afraid of ALL corners / rage inciting prius drivers. I used to like Subaru's as I owned a wrx, but now it's all outback/me too models, and EVERY single one of them insist on going in to full blown panic mode on virtually every corner because Subaru's naturally understeer because of the engine placement (due to awd) and the risk adverse demographic that gravitates towards them (exceptions are obviously sti/wrx/modified owners). In fact, I've moved Outback owners ahead of Prius's on my list of rage inciting drivers as my logic says that ATEAST the prius drivers can blame the bike tires for the obsessively slow speeds. CRV drivers are next on the list, then virtually every other "me too" suv/suv drivers. So no, don't give out locations and we need to ban publications that pull the "top ten best places to live" articles that the morons from California read and then decide to move like locusts up here and to basically DESTROY everything that once made the PNW a moderatly decent place to live. Personally I'm advocating a 'move in' tax with our local senate, as we need to start collecting from these idiots whom have inflated equity positions from the bay area and other areas.
07wrxtr1 California inflation really hurt a city I live in, in Utah. It hurts the economy so much that I had to leave for better pay. Everyone's too broke to spend money which keeps the economy stagnant. To make it worse they're often retiring Californians so they're very cheap (understandable just not helpful).
I think those top places to live articles should be illegal too but it's hard to argue with freedom of speech. I bet real estate companies lobby to get in so they can have a selling spree when people move in.
07wrxtr1 how would a move in tax help the people it hurts? Just more money for the government. I say this as a fellow concerned citizen. I get what you want to happen.
I used to own a 2004 S2000 with the 2.2L. I was always tickled by the complaints of a lack of low end torque on the 2.0. I'm was thinking, "It's a 2 liter 4-cylinder. It's not going to be a torque monster." My car had the 2.2, which was a stroked 2.0 and honestly, I thought it was quite driveable below VTEC speeds. I did get the chance to test drive the 2.0 before I bought my 2.2 and I felt the same about it too so don't hop me about the 2.2 being better. I'm sure it was, but it wasn't that much better and frankly, I always thought I'd rather have the 9k redline because Honda dropped that by 1k when it stroked the engine to 2.2L. As for what it's like as a road car? I made one trip from the Texas Gulf Coast where I live out to California. I got there via Colorado, Utah, and Nevada, and I spent a lot of time on CA-1 and it was a great trip. I avoided interstate highways as much as possible and the car did just fine. I was also very surprised at how it did fuel mileage wise. EPA was 20 city / 25 highway and I averaged will into the 29's while on the open road and got up to 36 mpg up in the mountains in Colorado and Yosemite Nat's Park, but that's up at 10k altitudes and cruising very easy. Still, they were nice numbers to see. Bottom line is, it's one fine automobile!
Would have gave you $2 and a snickers for that car, you missed out.
@@tamoo6028 - your opinion. I don't feel like I missed out on much. I wasn't thrilled when I discovered they changed the engine in the 2004 model year but that's just how it timed out when I was ready to buy. I would have preferred the 2.0 if I'd been given the choice but I can't say I was disappointed in the 2.2 when it's all said and done.
I like how you still appreciate your s2000 so much in 2018. you are a proper car youtuber :)
I'd really love to see how much of a gain E85 will provide. It would be an awesome comparison video, and it would give you the opportunity to explain why ethanol does what it does for naturally aspirated engine design with an aftermarket supercharger added into the equation. Just a thought!
Rhett Castillo agreed, but he might have to remap the ecu to take advantage of E85
Rhett Castillo he would probably have to upgrade the injectors and fuel pump since e85 uses more fuel
A fair review of a very well considered set of upgrades.
This is how you create a robust tune. Incremental updates that allow you to understand exactly what effect each change is having on your car.
*it sounds awesome too mate!
This series has been freaking amazing man. Serious good work and amazing results. This is the closest we can be to an OG fast and furious experience
Really appreciate your and mcm level headed views on a car should be what you want not what keyboard experts want. You and mcm latest build are daily driver cars. Not high power dyno queens or 1/4 mile weapons. Just modified car a to be driven every day for the pure joy of driving. I drive a remaped e61 535d. Has stacks of torque and decent hp. Even being in a big estate it bring a smile to my face every day. Just the right amount of power for daily use.
Awesome, glad you’re loving it! If it smiles, it’s right!
I love the S2000 and this mod brings it 's performance right up to date - any thoughts on how the gearbox will cope? Nice to see an American enjoying twisty European style roads. Great channel. You ought to be presenting Top Gear, no really, you should - perfect replacement for James May in terms of "the technical aspect"
"oh goodness, we're getting wild" 4:44 that's engineer speak for "Hell Yeah!"
You're really making me wanna get this kit on my Ap2, I like how simple it is
I really appreciate your dedication to doing incremental improvements in your videos. Not many creators are willing to spend the time and money to show people what all of the intermediate steps get you.
I'm just learning English. Sometimes I cant understand what your talking about, but one thing I really know is the fact that you are really cool guy.
Dead On, on you comment about the nature of that engine, and why it doesn’t make sense as a production engine. Looks like you’re enjoying your upgrade just fine. Never mind what the internet says. Great feedback video.
The weather, awesome road, engine sound and your thoughts on the supercharger made for a great video!
I am glad to see that you can talk without looking at the camera. Too many people who review cars online are looking at the camera far too often. The car sounds great.
What a great job! Well done with your car! You made me a fan of S2000, and more than that. You made me choose my life long career! (Yes, of course it's mechanical engineering :D). Huge love from Brazil!
Awesome, best of luck to you in the ME world!
Engineering Explained Thank you so much! What an inspiration! :D
This is actually what I use most often in Forza 7, I love the S2000 in b class. Sooooooooo much more fun then even hyper cars and super cars.
As a shorter-to-medium-length circuit carver, the S2000 makes a better B-class tuner than just about anything else in the game, including Lotus. It's still very competitive in A-class as well. Some even do S-class tunes but at that level you're dealing with the car's limit of track width & tire rubber width, wheelbase and (last but certainly not least!) aero.
I love that road. We used to do some...unsanctioned...competitions up and down that road in the early 90's, even did it in our 4x4s. I miss Boise. I am now still living there vicariously through your driving videos. Nice to see some real world hop-ups without going full Fast and Furious. Never go full Fast and Furious.
I love how you kept it subtle! I've always prefered NA Engines, but I think m your build is really cool. Imo your improving the factory experience instead of completely altering it (as a lot of ppl like to do with big turbos). These cars are perfect for super charging, and it can often be way more fun to pick less power and always be ringing it out than to pick too much power and not ever actually use it/ not be able to ha e proper fun with it because you can't rev and run it out safely
I own a 2018 WRX and I agree with you Jay. Good choice and fun formula.
His name is Jason
PapayaMan yes I know. But I call him Jay. Like Jay Jay the Jet plane because he can fly now.
PapayaMan to the rescue lol... Are you his husband? What do you care if someone calls Jason "Jay"?
Former BRZ owner chiming in: The FA20 is still an economy engine at heart. Keep in mind it accomplishes 100hp/L (in NA form in the BRZ/FRS) without the use of variable valve timing/lift technology (VTEC or VVTL-i). The F20/22C is a whole other level.
"Oh goodness, we're gettin wild" I want that on a shirt 😎
Hi there Jason! Huge fan of your videos - am an engineer myself and I have an AP2 which I pretty much devote to racing. To argue the point of the S2000 not being the best road car, I present to you what an NSX owner said to me when comparing the NSX to the S2000: "The NSX is a grand touring car capable of being on the track, the S2000 on the other hand, is a track car capable (barely) of grand touring." I couldn't agree more with him.
I think what youve done is a great sweet spot of adding a good amount of power without causing too much extra wear on the engine or changing the feel. I want to do the same when I get one!
Next time I see you take your whiteboard with you in the S2000 😂
LOL this absolutely needs to happen! xDDD
Jason the type of guy to giggle as he's falling off a cliff in his S2000
Looks like a fun build! I like the fact that you brought up refinement; I have certainly gone off the deep end in the pursuit of power and found that I undervalued refinement, as well as longevity by quite a bit.
Great vid !
Really enjoyed it 👍
And yeah - you can't argue with that sound from 8-9K rpm !!!! Awesome 😁
Whenever you floored it, I started smiling as well =D I'm happy for you, my engine master =)
"Ohh goodness, we're getting wild!" such a wholesome guy!
We had an s2000 and loved it, it pulled like a freight train at high RPM's. I considered boosting one for a track car, but settled on a C5 Z06. Fun video, they hold their value because people know how great they are. Honda overengineers everything, it could easily handle more boost, and still be reliable.
Love the sound when you get to the upper rpms. I have a 91 NSX and it’s sweet music when the tach heads toward 8K. You started me thinking about what technology Honda used from the NSX is in the S2000. Great video
It feels amazing to own/drive an s2000 . I like it just how it is Stock
"Oh goodness, we're getting wild."
I'm going to use that more often haha
These vids are like sitting on the passenger seat n just talking about cars, its chill asf
Nothing better than driving your car, while talking about driving your car! Great video!!!
A car can never be too fast, screw science lol
Thanking you for the heart good sir, after watching this I'm contemplating whether to kick my supercharger manufacturer in the ass and tell him too hurry or just wait haha.
Well increasing torque and hp too far will cause increased oversteer for a rwd car like the s2000. Oversteer and lossed traction is not ideal for the s2000. Id say stay within the 200-300 hp.
Godspeed nope 400+
i get the statement but i disagree, you can make a car too fast, especially on the roads his driving in the video. With 500+ hp he will never have has much fun he has now in his S2000 if you know what i'm saying.
yeah. if you have 1000hp on 225 tires. you'll never have fun and just spin tires.
Your constant smile is Just beautiful. You really love your car
I have a Toyota Altezza RS200 which has similar power delivery to your S2000, so I totally agree that it is not a car for everyone, but when you want to have fun, it can certainly provide it. Keep up the great work with your videos, also your followers have some funny comments.
Dude, thank you for putting out great and honest content, I love how informative your videos are, keep up the good work!
I like this channel immensely.
Than you probably love it...
No 0-60 times? No 1/4 mile times? What's with the percentage figures with no data?
BWX that can all vary with weather and driver skill. It’s practically a new car you can’t expect him to launch it perfectly now so quickly
i think he measured the acceleration gs, not times
Yeah I know he can't be perfect, I was just expecting to see a few timed runs comparisons. Would still be interesting.
It is fairly easy to estimate - this tune at sea level in cool weather with competent driver on smooth tarmac should do in the low fives to 60mph and low-mid 13s in a 1/4mi. OEM numbers are approx 6sec//14.5sec. He did modify his final drive, so that could make for some small difference. It also may do a bit better still on summer tires or slicks, depending on the surface.
but now forget all that - S2000 is not designed to be a drag car in any sense. 8-10 hard launches in a row can snap the diff.
The Brian Cox of all things engineering and motoring produces another great video...He could talk about golf clubs or lawn mowers and it would still sound really interesting. ..
You hit the nail on the head with your comments on the engine. I don't care for the S2000 for the simple fact that it has very little low RPM torque. People buy horsepower but drive torque, and these cars are just frustrating to drive. As you said, people gravitate towards this car just for this reason, it's unique method of achieving performance. Great video, very informative!
Just a question which might sound a bit odd, but is there a supercharger system with variable pulleys (somewhat like a cvt)? Can imagine that such a system would be benefifial to get more low end torque efficiently
Sam Kwant OOOOooo i like that!!!!!! Or like as rpms increase the pulley gets larger
Look up twin-screw superchargers. They give the option of low end torque as well as provide all the benefits of the centrifugal superchargers, and are what are being used on most of the OEM options today (Shelby GT, ZO6) because of their design. The problem is getting them to fit without having been originally designed for it and they cost an arm and a leg
Old airplanes had 2 speed superchargers, but those engines where huge.
A CVT or other type of gearbox could be to complex er expensive, making it cheaper to put on 2 superchargers or a turbo and supercharger on the engine.
It is very rare, but i have seen videos where people mount superchargers with a coupling like a aircon pump pulley, so you can shut off the supercharger when the engine is running.
I believe you can achieve a similar effect by using a wastegate. You can then increase the boost at low rpm and, consequently, the torque, while being able to release the extra boost, that would be too much for the engine, at high rpm. But, in the end, you'd just be making a centrifugal SC work like a roots SC or a turbo in terms of power delivery. Might as well go for one of those :)
for the added complexity and weight such a system would involve you could go with twin charging (both supercharged and turbocharged) and basically get the benefits of both worlds. You could also put on the smaller pulley and have an electronic waste gate to limit the psi for when its rainy out or you are driving long distances out or when you just dont want to release ALL the demons.
Leave some power for others, sharing is caring
I love when people flash their lights. It restores my faith in humanity, in South Florida no one flashes their lights, they get off on a guy with a sporty car having fun who gets pulled over. Up north in the US everyone does it even at risk of getting in trouble for doing so.
power loss below 3000 rpm is mainly due to the fact there's another engine accessory to run...ive always been amazed that many of the things we can do to cars to make them faster is by adding something heavier like bigger sway bars, bigger heads, motors, adding frame stiffeners like cross members and roll bars
Sounds good!
"Oh goodness, we're getting wild"
*glove box randomly opens*
“This fool is running a Honda 2000, I’ll win”
"I bet you he's got more than 100 grand under the hood of that car!" including a +80hp centrifugal supercharger!
It's amazing you can just riff like this for almost 20 minutes, and keep all the data straight, and drive, and clearly have a blast! EE is Easily my new youtube guilty pleasure!
amazing how far this channel changed and evolved... just like the S2000. I love this, thank you for doing all this educating, teaching and entertaining. Greetings from Sydney Australia.
VTEC KICKS IN🔥✌️👊....!
Not really, not anymore. It's just getting swallowed by the Supercharger powa.
userful1 Supercharger + VTEC Suppliment 💥
Not particularly is my guess
Haha, pretty accurate! S2000 was never meant for straight line speed, but it's a significant improvement, and a ton of fun!
I bet it's a blast through the twisties!
Just an observation - I have to concentrate pretty well when performance driving, the fact this guy can talk as if he's having a casual conversation while driving like this = experienced driver
Completely agree with you about the choice of a centrifugal supercharger to "respect" the power characteristic of this engine.
Also completely agree that this engine (and its agile body) doesn't make it a street car but more a race car. As an owner, I drove it "cruising" on roads (of Corsica for example), but I bought it to mostly drive it during track days.
I always thought and said that it has the Type R spirit : the S2000 is not a roadster but a Racester !
Shotgun!
Can we get a ride along giveaway? 😆
Hi Jason, may I ask how tall you are? I'd love to get a S2K one day but am afraid of being too tall!
Thanks for the informative content and keep on rockin!🤘
I am 6'1" and I don't think there's a whole lot of room for much more. Wish the steering wheel was adjustable, but it works.
Gino Andereggen how tall are you? Im 6.1 and I fit just fine
S2k Kev well i guess around 6.2 (if that's 1.85m in metric )
Engineering Explained I'm so glad to hear that! I remember sitting in a 370 Z convertible in the geneva car saloon and was shocked at the fact that at the lowest point i was lookin over the windshield...
You seem to sit quite comfortable!
Gino Andereggen yeah you are 6.1 too, I will eventually lower my seat because I wouldn’t mind being a little lower, but it really isn’t bad, go for it you won’t regret it.
The way you remain calm while driving makes me less nervous about learning to drive faster cars:)
i cannot get over the fact that the instrumental dash and the steering wheel in your s2000 is almost identical to my 01 honda insight. they are completely different cars meant for completely different people yet they share so many similar aspects.
Have you driven an RX-7 or RX-8 previously? I think they drive very similarly to the S2000
yeah agreed (with christian). I mean they're similar in that you need to drive them at high revs to stay in the fun band, and they're both rear drive coupes with great chassis' , but engine wise there's much more of an obvious vtech bump on the S2000, the Rx is pretty smooth all the way up.
I previously owned an RX-7 (why I made the comment) which i swapped to a single turbo and some other mods, the engine did rev smoothly, the power delivery was smooth indeed.
However, the case is the same for the S2000, the power is quite smooth, it's deceptive though, it doesnt "feel" as smooth because the exhaust note etc.I think with a standalone ECU and a good tune his S2000 would be as smooth as any wankle.
The reliability is a whole different thing...
10 psi less than an fa20, but higher compression, so not sure what the point of that statement was, you know they can't be directly compared in that manner. I bet the fa20 has a lot more torque down low too.
Still, you know higher compression is the difference, you can't say "I have x hp at only 6 psi and this other engine only makes y hp at whatever number", when the compression ratio is higher on one motor, that makes a big difference in the results you'll get from forced induction.
Yeah, I thought about this too; and he said 16 psi. He must be thinking of the EJ 2.5L (he owned an STI). While not as reliable, a mildly modded Subaru, tuned to properly overcome the crappy factory tune, would have no problem beating the Honda (not in handling tho'!). And, it is because of the difference in compression; especially factoring in direct injection with the FA.
I just found your channel. Now I want an S2000 as my daily driver! I have a 120 mile round trip commute to work every day...
I am and forever be a Miata guy but I seriously respect what Honda did with the S2000. My life goal with my '90 NA6 is to make a daily driveable ITB NA6 that can run the same times as a S2000.
Lol "just 80hp", that's about half of my cars hp. Bet you dont get 30+mpg tho ;). (Mpg is the only thing I can compete in with my slowmobile)
Those engines have took over 700whp STOCK. RUclips "s2000 from hell"
I LOVE THAT ENGINE NOISE! It was like a beautiful soundtrack behind your narrations.
I aided a friend with installing the old Comptech 6lbs kit (similar to the SoS kit as far as I know) into a 2004 AP2, and it REALLY woke the thing up. Nothing disappointing about another ~90 hp in such a light car.
f20c can handle 800hp almost stock just head studs not pistons or rods. i think that s2000 can handle 500hp all day long no problem and it will out live you
I almost bet that I have less money into my k20c swapped S2000 type R. I bought a totalled 2018 Civic type R at an auction for $3800. It was hit in the back by a truck and was absolutely mangled from the rear doors back. The front was also smashed a little from being forced into another car in front of it. The damage on both ends I think kept people from bidding on the car, but I had talked to a friend from the wrecking company who knew the car was still running somehow after the accident.
I already had everything I needed from hasport for a k20 s2k swap, hondata handled the ecu, all together I have like $5400 into my build. Made 290 wheel and the engine is 100% stock other than things that needed to be rotated or moved in some way.
You have a K20c in your S2000? Got a build thread? I think you might be the first person to do this.
James Donegan I filmed a lot of it as I did it, but I'm pretty awful at actually sitting down and editing the video to upload something. I documented anything that was different than a normal k20 swap pretty thoroughly.
I'm pretty sure I am the first to do the swap, no one on RUclips had made the claim and I get a lot of puzzled looks from people. It wasn't to bad to get done either, maybe 2 weeks from purchase of the wreck to driving down the road in the s2k.
Definitely come over to S2ki or r/s2000 and post some pictures up. There's a ton of interest over whether or not the K20c is a feasible swap if you could get your hands on one.
$4,500 is also less than it would cost to do a proper K20/K24 hybrid swap in a S2K as well. I know that's a very popular swap, but it's more expensive than people expect once you get all the adapters needed and power adders put in so you actually make more than the standard F20 or F22.
5400 for only 290 hp jesus u played yo self,could've bought a v8, but I guess is each ones choice to get wat they want gg
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That V8 would ruin the balance of the car completely, shifting the centre of weight to the front and pretty much nuke any chance it had of going round a corner at the speed it could beforehand without significant investment into the suspension setup, which would, of course put you back where you would have started paying for the 5k engine swap, and have fun trying to squeeze a V8 into a S2K on a budget
Thanks for the video. I was looking at the same setup. I have the same exact year. Gonna pull the trigger before the year ends.
Awesome! Great car and good luck with it!
BTW, I had also ordered a clutch from Science of Speed. I was looking for something with stock feel but with a lot more grip over stock. Their Sport 325 is on point with what I was looking for and not bad for the price as compared to other companies. Just something you should look into if later in the market for a clutch.
Makes me wanna drive an s2000! Watching these videos makes me want to get a car just to play with. Miss it so much
for the first time, i'm not late
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Hey there, thanks for watching!!
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I am from Pakistan too.
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The nice things of Centrifugal , is that it still makes the engine "Breath" because there is a pass though in the impeller where a Volumetric solution will close the induction line limiting the amount of air only to what the compressor can provide.
Big inspiration, all your knowledge has helped me out on my projects and common knowledge of cars