Nice, it's such a beautiful area...it was also my first visit to Nafplio but it quickly became one of my favorite cities in Greece along with Tripoli and Pilos. Thanks for watching!
@HistorywithCy You are welcome Cy! Peloponnese is a very beautiful place with an extended variety of landscapes. I hope you always enjoy your travels and stay here. I would also like to suggest some books that you can read about Greek prehistory. Books that can help you a lot with your videos. Unfortunately, they're written only in our language. If you're interested let me know and I can share some titles with you via email or even here.
@@cassthesmelly6006 I understand you because I feel that too sometimes for places that I haven't been or it is difficult to often visit. I hope you have the chance to visit Mykines area in the short future.
Cy, can I tell you a secret? I really wasn’t all that bothered about ancient cultures. I forget what video got me watching you, but your enthusiasm for the subject has infected me. The sheer joy and respect you put on teaching us what you’ve learned about literally any people or land just makes my day, and makes learning history fun! Thank you for sharing!
Thanks so much for posting this! Comments like this make my day and are part of the reason why I do what I do...glad you're enjoying these videos. My goal is to make history accessible to everyone regardless of prior knowledge so glad some of these vids have sparked your interest. Thanks so much for watching, really appreciate it!
Like many, my interest in ancient civilizations in particular Greece was reinvigorated by AC Odyssey, watching this video it's amazing just how much of the natural landscape is captured in the game. To imagine standing there gazing at those walls knowing many ancient Greeks stood there like you equally in awe.
Gorgeous place. I was there in the late 90s, just before Tiryns was registered as a UNESCO site. None of the token barriers and fences were installed; it was literally a place you could just run around in. As with your trip, no visitors for mine. Deserted; my wife and I felt like interlopers on a secret, haunted place. Those structure are amazing: not bad, still standing after about 2500 years of abandonment. Folks should visit; hopefully their piece won't be interrupted by chainsaws.
Totally agree! I'm surprised though it hadn't been registered as a UNESCO site earlier, although I guess there are many of them. This is a list of them with the year they were recognized that I found on the official site: whc.unesco.org/en/list/&order=year it's pretty interesting. Anyway, thanks for watching, really appreciate it!
Of all the photos I took during my visit to Greece, the Western Staircase at Tyrins is my favorite. There's just some surreal about being surrounded by such an ancient structure.
Yeah it is truly a remarkable site... walking up and down the staircase is fun but you have to be careful... I slipped but luckily caught myself before I landed badly and cut myself on those stones. Thanks for watching!
Thank you for posting this. I used to have dreams of walking along a street wearing a red linen dress and this really does look like the place. I can smell it and hear laughter and talk and casual arguments..
I've been spending my springs in the Argolides every year for a few years now but never heard of Tyrins. Shows the unparalleled notoriety of Mycenae, I suppose. In any case, great video, now I know where I'll go when I return to the Argolides!
What struck me the most when visiting the Argolis is just how close those bronze age citadels were to each other. It gave me the feeling that those rulers would have had a lot of opportunity to meet, talk and feast together. I know the historicity of the Iliad is very much in question, but I can't help but imagine that in the war camp of the Argives, some people would have been much more familiar with eachother than the rest.
The Mycenaean world is too often overlooked , but you’re doing a good job of illuminating it! Any chance of some vids on warfare, armaments and tactics from middle Bronze Age Mesopotamia Hammurabi , shamsi adad, etc. Your vids on that period were excellent; this would complement them!
Thank you for taking us poors to see this site😂 I can't afford travel but so much to see! Thanks again for doing the next best thing and uploading a video tour!
Let's not forget that Plataiai was 479 B.C., whereas 480 was Thermopylai... Else - what a wonderful walk - I did that in 1974 when there were no chainsaws.... The walls of the Western Staircase contained some of the famous frescos.
I love maps! I wish you had lingered and explained a bit about the maps of the site I saw glimpses of around 9:50 and 17:05. That would make the rest of the tour more interesting! Question: I know many of these sites are reconstructed. How much of Tiryns is reconstructed? It looks like the walls got some TLC.
Cy, I love your videos, but if I could make suggestion. Most of your walking tours the camera is pointing up, with most of the frame occupied by sky and distant landscape, not the structures you are touring. Point the camera down a bit when you do this.
I got there around 10:30 AM and there were maybe three other people there at the time. It probably gets busier later in the day. I think a lot of people overlook Tiryns and head straight to Mycenae.
Sparse vegetation and a few trees, so it's kind of odd to see so many stones and hills and mountains and the sound of the gravel crunching as you walk... Only to hear an unseen chainsaw in the distance.
Please do not film chainsaws ,the peripheral megalitic stones, Tourists , nearby mountains (or tell us their names for orientation) but film what remains of the citadel and habitations ! And stop the travelings to let us see memorable or testimonial details. Thank You for this master work of mute subsisting important historical mycenean remains
Appreciate the video but is that chainsaw in the background ever obnoxious - maybe you could find some copyright free appropriate music to lay down over that oh so obvious modern machine noise. -
Which flood? If the Mediterranean Sea should have flooded the Black Sea at the Bosporus, that might have been around 6000ish B.C. and no impact on Greece. The earliest "Mycenean" walls of Tiryns were dated at about 2500 B.C. and the upper citadel was destoyed at about 1190-1180 B.C.
@@hanswi336 I dunno, can search the bible maybe? Hundreds of videos of proof the ark was found near mount ararat in Turkey, but if you think God is a fable fantasy and believe you came out from the sea nevermind than.
I don't know about all the walls, but the main ones surrounding the citadel with the gigantic stones are called cyclopian walls... not my term, just what they've been called throughout the ages. Thanks.
@@HistorywithCy Thanks for responding. Cyclopian walls consist of typically polygonal shaped, large stones of different size with tight fits to another. Not large gaps in between filled with loose rocks. These walls usually bend inside creating greater stability. As form normally follows function, their usage might have been as retaining walls. Not for defense as this could be reached by walls of blocks in much shorter time. I know, that the features and function gets often ignored by archeological studies and interpretations . Mainly the principle of form follows function. Archeology often isn't aware of physics, math and other constraints.
Historians still haven’t done a good job explaining what caused the Bronze Age collapse and the destruction of bronze era cities and civilizations. And what’s with the weed eater sounds at 5:15?
Bronze age collapse is still murky and there's no straightforward simple explanation that I've heard, but I've most often heard climate change (getting dryer, famine) and the sea people's attacking, but there is dispute about it and we may never really know
![Felix "Unfair" | [Stray Kids : SKZ-PLAYER]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Oswujxm2Ag0/mqdefault.jpg)
One of my favorite places to be! Sometimes I take my bike and go there only for the weekends. Two hours from home!
Nice, it's such a beautiful area...it was also my first visit to Nafplio but it quickly became one of my favorite cities in Greece along with Tripoli and Pilos. Thanks for watching!
@HistorywithCy You are welcome Cy! Peloponnese is a very beautiful place with an extended variety of landscapes. I hope you always enjoy your travels and stay here. I would also like to suggest some books that you can read about Greek prehistory. Books that can help you a lot with your videos. Unfortunately, they're written only in our language. If you're interested let me know and I can share some titles with you via email or even here.
@@azwris Hi, could you share these books here as i’m also from Greece and I would be interested in reading them
the amount of jealousy I have towards this comment.....
@@cassthesmelly6006 I understand you because I feel that too sometimes for places that I haven't been or it is difficult to often visit. I hope you have the chance to visit Mykines area in the short future.
Cy, can I tell you a secret? I really wasn’t all that bothered about ancient cultures. I forget what video got me watching you, but your enthusiasm for the subject has infected me.
The sheer joy and respect you put on teaching us what you’ve learned about literally any people or land just makes my day, and makes learning history fun! Thank you for sharing!
Thanks so much for posting this! Comments like this make my day and are part of the reason why I do what I do...glad you're enjoying these videos. My goal is to make history accessible to everyone regardless of prior knowledge so glad some of these vids have sparked your interest. Thanks so much for watching, really appreciate it!
I've only seen it from a distance, coming back from Mycenae, great video, I miss the Peloponnese!😍
My wife and I saw Mycenae back in January. I'm convinced the place was overrun by cats, and their descendants still rule there today.
I wish YOU could do a vid. about this place.
@@sraught
CATS RULE...MEOW!!!💖💞💗🥂🍾🌻👀
Thanks! Actually channels like yours inspired videos like this. Thanks so much for watching!
Like many, my interest in ancient civilizations in particular Greece was reinvigorated by AC Odyssey, watching this video it's amazing just how much of the natural landscape is captured in the game. To imagine standing there gazing at those walls knowing many ancient Greeks stood there like you equally in awe.
Great video as always Cy, and continued thanks for your videos.
For sure, thanks for always tuning in!
Breathtaking! Those figurines were great, thank you!
My pleasure, thanks for watching!
@@HistorywithCy I looked for books on the citadel of Tiryns but I found nothing.
Do you, maybe, know of any titles?
Another precious cedar bites the dust.
I am so grateful to see these sites anyway!
Thanks, Cy!
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it... more tours to come, stay tuned and thanks for watching!
Even what we see today is basically in Ruin , you can still see traces of its former glory. Must of have been an impressive sign back then.
Gorgeous place. I was there in the late 90s, just before Tiryns was registered as a UNESCO site. None of the token barriers and fences were installed; it was literally a place you could just run around in. As with your trip, no visitors for mine. Deserted; my wife and I felt like interlopers on a secret, haunted place. Those structure are amazing: not bad, still standing after about 2500 years of abandonment. Folks should visit; hopefully their piece won't be interrupted by chainsaws.
Totally agree! I'm surprised though it hadn't been registered as a UNESCO site earlier, although I guess there are many of them. This is a list of them with the year they were recognized that I found on the official site: whc.unesco.org/en/list/&order=year it's pretty interesting. Anyway, thanks for watching, really appreciate it!
You're the man! Thanks so much for sharing!!
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching!
The chainsaw massacre at Tyrins😄
Thank you for the tour!
Enduro yyaay
Just simply call it Tiryns 🙂
Thanks everyone for watching, really appreciate it and more vids exploring sites in Greece and other places to come!
I've been to a lot of ancient sites in Greece and honestly there is always some large diesel engine machinery making noise in the background 😂
Wow! Great video as always.
I love it! Thanks for sharing ❤
You're welcome, thanks for watching!
Of all the photos I took during my visit to Greece, the Western Staircase at Tyrins is my favorite. There's just some surreal about being surrounded by such an ancient structure.
Yeah it is truly a remarkable site... walking up and down the staircase is fun but you have to be careful... I slipped but luckily caught myself before I landed badly and cut myself on those stones. Thanks for watching!
Thank you for posting this. I used to have dreams of walking along a street wearing a red linen dress and this really does look like the place. I can smell it and hear laughter and talk and casual arguments..
I've been spending my springs in the Argolides every year for a few years now but never heard of Tyrins. Shows the unparalleled notoriety of Mycenae, I suppose. In any case, great video, now I know where I'll go when I return to the Argolides!
It's definitely worth the visit and not that far from Mycenae itself!
Wow! Great to see Tiryns and I love this tour style! Great job Cy 🫡
Thanks so much, you're gonna love it when you visit... it's a site fit for a Wanax!
What struck me the most when visiting the Argolis is just how close those bronze age citadels were to each other. It gave me the feeling that those rulers would have had a lot of opportunity to meet, talk and feast together. I know the historicity of the Iliad is very much in question, but I can't help but imagine that in the war camp of the Argives, some people would have been much more familiar with eachother than the rest.
Thank you for interesting tour 😊
My pleasure, thank YOU for watching!
Beautiful.
Thank you!
What lovely neighbors.
Just fabulous to get to see it! Thank you 😊
Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for watching!
quite amazing
Yeah it's a really cool place...thanks for watching!
👍👍👍 Too late to watch it now but it will be first thing to do tomorrow👀
Thanks man, hope you enjoyed it. It's less of a history video, more travel I suppose.
The Mycenaean world is too often overlooked , but you’re doing a good job of illuminating it! Any chance of some vids on warfare, armaments and tactics from middle Bronze Age Mesopotamia Hammurabi , shamsi adad, etc. Your vids on that period were excellent; this would complement them!
Thank you for taking us poors to see this site😂
I can't afford travel but so much to see! Thanks again for doing the next best thing and uploading a video tour!
My pleasure, glad you enjoyed this and hope you can see it live in the future!
You are living the life of my dreams. thanks for sharing.
No problem, glad you liked it and more tours to come!
Awesome video. I love it!!
sounds that make me crazy: chainsaws, leaf blowers, barking dogs.
Good video, enjoyed the tour. thank you.
with the sound off lol
Haha yeah that's what you'd experience if you go there...tried to keep it as real as possible lol. Thanks so for watching, appreciate it!
Thanks 🎉
You're welcome!
Let's not forget that Plataiai was 479 B.C., whereas 480 was Thermopylai... Else - what a wonderful walk - I did that in 1974 when there were no chainsaws....
The walls of the Western Staircase contained some of the famous frescos.
Oh Wow ive always wanted to go there
Hope you get to go one day...thanks for watching!
The paintings look just like the ones on Crete .
Yes, they were likely influence by Minoan styles of art. Thanks for watching!
If Thera exploded around 1500BCE, and it was supposedly much bigger than Krakatoa, I wonder what effect it would have had on this area?
I love maps!
I wish you had lingered and explained a bit about the maps of the site I saw glimpses of around 9:50 and 17:05. That would make the rest of the tour more interesting!
Question: I know many of these sites are reconstructed. How much of Tiryns is reconstructed? It looks like the walls got some TLC.
TLC - Tender Loving Care _ Thin Layer Chromatography, anybody more suggestions??
Do you have video's on tower of Babel? @HistorywithCy
Ahh, the dulcet tones of original Mycenian chainsaws...
I was at Tiryns in August of 86, not as green. Less traffic noise, and zero tourists. The walls made it at least as impressive as Mycenae.
Πολυ καλο βιντεο αν εξαιρεσεις τον τυπο με το αλυσοπριονο .
Αναρωτιεμαι αν του ζητησες να σταματησει για λιγο ..........
Mr Beat recommended this channel.
Welcome! Mr. Beat is great, love his channel for American history.
Cy, I love your videos, but if I could make suggestion. Most of your walking tours the camera is pointing up, with most of the frame occupied by sky and distant landscape, not the structures you are touring. Point the camera down a bit when you do this.
"Mighty walled Tiryns," Homer calls it.
If you look carefully you can see inscribed on one of the stones: "Heracles was here. Got any labors?"
History of the Khazars part 2 please. Long over due.
Or at least sources to reference.
I think that this site, like others, such as Mycenae, is of antediluvian origin, several times reused until ancient antiquity.
That's an interesting take. Why do you think that? I personally believe in the flood, so I'm honestly curious.
The walk around was great but I could have done without the chainsaw.
What time of year / time of day were you visiting? Is it always this empty?
I got there around 10:30 AM and there were maybe three other people there at the time. It probably gets busier later in the day. I think a lot of people overlook Tiryns and head straight to Mycenae.
Looks repaired to me with orange pieces. 🙃
Sparse vegetation and a few trees, so it's kind of odd to see so many stones and hills and mountains and the sound of the gravel crunching as you walk...
Only to hear an unseen chainsaw in the distance.
Seems it was Leatherface, not the Sea Peoples who wiped out Mycenaean civilization
Please do not film chainsaws ,the peripheral megalitic stones, Tourists , nearby mountains (or tell us their names for orientation) but film what remains of the citadel and habitations ! And stop the travelings to let us see memorable or testimonial details.
Thank You for this master work of mute subsisting important historical mycenean remains
Still waiting for the continuation of the Peloponnesian war. I already watched Kings and generals video
Ever hear of Alula in Saudi Arabia!?!? WOW WOW WOW!
At least the Tiryns didn't have to put up with a noisy chainsaw, back in the day.
A fortress or City?
Citadel is the term used most to describe it...
No escaping from the goddamned BLOWERS!
The blower turned out to be a saw 🙂
@@hanswi336 Thank you!
Why is there no sound?
What do you mean?
Appreciate the video but is that chainsaw in the background ever obnoxious - maybe you could find some copyright free appropriate music to lay down over that oh so obvious modern machine noise. -
The ruins are in much better shape than at Mycenae....
Yeah I actually preferred this site to Mycenae, probably because it has less tourists on average and is somewhat easier to explore.
Jesus Christ we don’t need to hear the locals construction crews for 20 minutes WTF?
Can you touch the stone?
Yes, you can pretty explore the whole site without restrictions. Thanks for watching!
Were these built pre or post flood?
Which flood? If the Mediterranean Sea should have flooded the Black Sea at the Bosporus, that might have been around 6000ish B.C. and no impact on Greece. The earliest "Mycenean" walls of Tiryns were dated at about 2500 B.C. and the upper citadel was destoyed at about 1190-1180 B.C.
@@hanswi336 The proven biblical flood. Noah? I believe it is dated at around 2400 BC.
@@permafrost7781 Where did that occur and why should that have happened? How was that "proven"?
@@hanswi336 I dunno, can search the bible maybe? Hundreds of videos of proof the ark was found near mount ararat in Turkey, but if you think God is a fable fantasy and believe you came out from the sea nevermind than.
@@permafrost7781 Trump voter ??
Occupied since 5000 BC. What civilization/nation lived there? The Indo-Europeans expanded like 3000 BC didnt they
That damned chainsaw!
I know, it was so annoying! But, at least you know what it's like to be there... haha chainsaw, cars and all! Thanks for watching, appreciate it!
Thanks Cy, great video but I think it's safe to say the vast majority of your audience will never make it to Greece!
And surely nobody will make it to the moon after watching "Apollo 13".....
Most of what you describe as being cyclopian masonry are no cyclopian walls.
I don't know about all the walls, but the main ones surrounding the citadel with the gigantic stones are called cyclopian walls... not my term, just what they've been called throughout the ages. Thanks.
@@HistorywithCy Thanks for responding. Cyclopian walls consist of typically polygonal shaped, large stones of different size with tight fits to another. Not large gaps in between filled with loose rocks. These walls usually bend inside creating greater stability. As form normally follows function, their usage might have been as retaining walls. Not for defense as this could be reached by walls of blocks in much shorter time. I know, that the features and function gets often ignored by archeological studies and interpretations . Mainly the principle of form follows function. Archeology often isn't aware of physics, math and other constraints.
11:22 I bet those nearby farmers aren't paying their taxes to the Wanax of Tiryns.
Can't imagine just how claustrophobic it must've been back when it was in its prime.
Was a lower city
...as a hod-carrier for the master mason, Kieth k, kuhl, The Sea Ranch, Calif., ...
THAT DIDNT HAPPEN IN A DAY...just saying...
I’d like to see a documentary about Medusa… legend has it that she was objectifying people
Historians still haven’t done a good job explaining what caused the Bronze Age collapse and the destruction of bronze era cities and civilizations. And what’s with the weed eater sounds at 5:15?
Bronze age collapse is still murky and there's no straightforward simple explanation that I've heard, but I've most often heard climate change (getting dryer, famine) and the sea people's attacking, but there is dispute about it and we may never really know
Chainsaw
A domino effect caused by climate change, which may have started north of Greece. After all, we know most Sea people were indoeuropeans
@@steventhompson399 The climate change could also explain the sea people. They may have been people driven from their own homelands by climate change.
If i could only visit 1 it would be tiryns not mycenae
It looks way less safer than Mycenea.
All hitite inventions