WD Black SN850X SSD Review
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- Опубликовано: 3 авг 2024
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Before you sink your teeth into the review of the WD Black SN850X SSD, it is important to understand that this is not the same as the widely available and industry applauded SN850 SSD. On the face of it, the difference is simply the ‘X’ prefix - Is that really much of a difference? I think it would be pretty fair to say that when the PCIe 4 generation of SSDs hit the consumer market, the one that made the BIGGEST (and earliest) splash was the WD Black SN850. Originally released in Autumn 2020, although it wasn’t the first PCIe4 M.2 SSD, it WAS the first commercially available drive to hit 7,000MB/s (followed incredibly closely by Samsung’s 980 Pro). Now, 2020 was quite a while ago now (give or take a pandemic or two) and in that time a wide variety of top tier (and indeed mid-low tier) brands have expanded in the PCIe 4 SSD tier, challenging the WD Black SSD in terms of performance, durability and price. The 2020 released WD Black SN850, although still hot in the basket of buyers of PS5 storage and regularly on sale during Black Friday and the like, is no longer the groundbreaking drive that it once was. And THIS with where the WD Black SN850X comes in. Now, the SN850X is NOT designed to be a replacement to the SN850. In fact, in recent months, we saw Western Digital roll out the WD Black SN770, a DRAMless, more efficient and more affordable alternative. The SN850X is designed to complete the product family in the PCIe4 M.2 NVMe tier and whereas the SN850 gains notoriety and licencing with the Sony PS5, the WD Black SN850X has its sights squarely on the Premium PC Gamer and Premium Performance tier exclusively (content creators, professional streamers and eSports). But is the WD Black SN850X really that much different? Is this a cash grab or is this a legitimate answer by WD to challengers in the PCIe4 SSD tier? Let’s find out.
Video Chapters
00:00 - Data Size in Perspective
02:40 - Introduction
03:00 - Important Disclaimer about WD Black SSDs
04:45 - Why WD released the WD Black SN850X SSD when the SN850 exists?
05:13 - WD Black SN850X Specifications
06:40 - Unboing the WD Black SN850X SSD
07:02 - The Design of the WD Black SN850X SSD
08:25 - The Big Mystery of the WD Black SN850X SSD Controller and NAND Layers?
10:38 - The WD Black SN850X SSD Performance in context
10:45 - Durability of the WD Black SN850X in DWPD, TBW and MTBF
11:50 - WD Black SN850X SSD and Capacity Options
12:28 - WD Black SN850X, WD Black SN850 and PS5 Compatibility
13:30 - Published Trasnfer Rates
14:28 - Published IOPS Ratings
15:20 - Pricing Globally of the WD Black SN850X SSD Right Now vs Future
16:30 - Impact of the WD Black SN850X SSD on the SN850?
17:57 - Test Setup for the WD Black SN850X SSD Benchmarks
19:35 - WD Dashboard and Game Mode 2.0 Features for PC
23:23 - WD Black SN850X SSD Benchmarks and Test Results
31:47 - Review Conclusions & Verdict
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Been looking for a review of this drive, NASCompares delivered on time as usual !
Just picked this drive up, installed it in a new build with: i9-13900k slightly OC, 32GB DDR5-6000 and a 3090 OC. I didn't think I would see much of a difference between my old off brand M.2 and my new SN850x but I'm here to say it was well worth the $199 I picked it up for. Pcie gen 5 is on the horizon so there are some great deals out there for the top drives. 100% would recommend.
Dude why would you get all that top notch kit then cheap out on the gpu?
What about reliability? I need a highly reliable SSD for my next rig. I'm torn between this and Firecuda 530 but I'm leaning towards WD because I've bought a bunch of external WD drives during these years and I've only had some minor problems. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
@@andreaorsini752 can't beat WD
Love your videos and the comparison one’s. Test it on ps5 vs the 850 regular.
The 4TB version is sold only without a heatsink for a reason: the chips on top are very different in height, so you have to use relatively thick thermal pads to make the heatsink sit properly flat on top. To make it worse: on the bottom, chips are on one half only, which makes it even harder to fit double-sided heatsinks easily, because you can’t use even pressure to make the top side a snug fit.
i have the exact one yes you use thicker thermal pads but all you have to do is cover the chips only with the thermal pads its been working great for me. i use the BEQUITE BZ002 MC1 M.2 SSD
@@wrathfang will be the onboard cooler enough in terms of thickness?
thx was looking if it was single sided. are the chips on the backside on the screw-end or on the slot-end?
Would you still recommend for a ps5? Even without the heat sink?
@@bosbarz5772I have been using 850x in my PS5 with the Sabrent Heatsink(rose gold/black plate). At first boot-up, I wasn’t sure it wasnt allowing me to transfer my games from my PS5’s internal SSD then all of a sudden 10-15min later I was able to move everything and fast. Haven’t had any issues.
Thank you for being extremely thorough, mate. You get a sub 👍
I love these videos, they're just so damned entertaining
What a difference 2 or 3 months make. In the video the WD Black 1TB SN850X w/o heatsink is selling at $159.99. I just picked up, in a Black Friday special, the 2TB SN850X for $154.99.
180 euros (ex VAT) in Europe. 🙂
The 2tb is on sale for $90 less than 50 cents a gig 7 months later
Was using a WD SN770 and just replaced it with the 850X 4TB. Very pleased. It hits all the marks.
did you buy a heat sink for it? or works good enough without?
Great vid, thanks!
Thanks for your complete review 👍🏼
Cheers man
When Pcie 5.0 drives launch, will you test one in the PS5 ?
Thanks Nas.
Just picked up one of these on Amazon for $109 US. Looking forward to tomorrow.
I use this drive on my production desktop. The difference between this drive and the stock SK Hynix that was in it, is night and day. Very pleased with it.
Video production, or audio production?
@@imhaydenmelrose Niether, DevOps
It is a legit drive for gaming. Replaced the drive in my Beelink Ser5 and huge speed difference. I play on a 50 inch Vizio 4k TV that has AMD Freesync.
Great content! 💾
Subscribed this is the best and only RUclips channel that you need to watch in terms of drives.
good in debt video, thx..
a bit of a shame that your system isnt powerfull so it can give the true maximum performance ..
- that is a thing Id like to see, since I do have a 5950X, with a SN750 1TB + SN850 1TB, - and Iam considering upgrading the SN750 to a SN850X 2TB..
Thanks mate 👍
Hi! I have a quick question: would this WD Black SN850X with the heatsink fit in my laptop Predator Helios 300 (2022 version) or should I buy the model without heatsink? Your reviews are always so helpful, thanks! :)
Get a tape measure
Just got this running in my system today and got almost 7400mb/s read speeds. I'm using a 5950x with 32Gb of 3600mb/s RAM.
I don’t even get that speed with mine only 6200mbs
Please do a video with 850x inside the ps5. Thanks!
Yes, please do! Also, please do a comparison between the SN850 and the SN850X in the PS5 with video of gameplay side by side.
Nothing to hear about, it just works and will be fine
This is overkill, plenty for the ps5. No need to worry.
Hi, thanks for the informative videos. Have you checked if the 850x comes with the latest firmware since it impacts performance when using enclosures like orico? I have the 4TB version, I tried to check firmware on pc using dashboard but couldn’t get the software to install properly, blank window, I’ll contact WD for that. I got 2450/2700 with the shipped firmware, on mac mini thunderbolt 3, APFS format. Thanks
hi there! just wanted to double check using the WD Black SN850X 4TB... how do you have it running on your mac-mini? I have a sabrent dual TB3 casing and waiting for my 2x 4tb nvme's but there is not alot of clarity online whether SN850X 4TB works on a mac (thru thunderbolt)
@@jftvrwk I use Orico NVMe SSD Enclosure 40 Gbps, and Orico M.2 NVME SSD, both works with mac mini, currently I use them with Mac Studio M1, slightly faster than the 2018 Mac mini. They run warm, but not hot, which means they work well. Bought both enclosures from amazon. Test speed about 2800 MB/s for Studio and over 2000 on mini.
Juts picked up one on the Black Friday sales for GBP 87.00 for the 1TB version....A steal..
Still be nice in my PS5. I only just got a 2Tb 850 on prime day, but I'll be looking at the 850X in November. I can offload my 850 to the mrs, mates rates so be both win.
Fantastic video
I have always wondered why is the 4TB the same speed as the 2TB, but the 2TB is faster than the 1TB? The 4TB has more DRAM package on the back so you would think it would also increase speed.
Good review thank you Heat likely killed mine..had a heat sink. Installed as a drive to house simple data for VST libraries used in audio software. Installed retail box version on Nov 28, 2022. Dead March 6, 2023. BIOS no longer sees any drive in the allocated M. 2 slot on a Z390 Gigabyte MOBO. Original Intel 2TB M2 and Samsung Ssd SATA from Dec 2019 still there no issues. This is shameful. Some Amazon users rated this drive as 1 star listing failure after failure. In IT for 30 years, this is a first in this short of timeframe. Avoid.
You should check out EKWB’s new Quantum Convection M.2 NVMe heat sinks. They’re the company who made the heat sink for the seagate firecuda 530
Do you know if Quantum Convection heatsink will fit inside the Ps5?
@@richardoh3666 Looks pretty chonky
@@richardoh3666 yes I have one, it’s fits in the ps5
Thanks for the review, just bought it at good Price in 2 To at 119€ 😉
Just picked up one of these in 1TB for $110 on Amazon, pretty excited to feed my PS5’s thirst for disk space
thanks for the view
Pity that WDC dropped backward compatibility (nvme 3, 2 and 1) clearly included in the nvme 4 specification. Now I can only spec Crucial for those currently with older versions that want speed and capacity now with an upgrade path.
Hello; thank you for your vidéo and thank you for all of them. What you do is very interesting to compare and chooose the ssd we want for your bugdet.
And your vidéos about the heat on SSD are very interesting for learning.
Have a good week and see you soon.
Good quality video with some in-depth history
Regarding WD Black SN850X vs. Crucial P5 Plus, I'm a little confused regarding the random read speeds.
In the 1st random read test, the SN850X is 3 times faster than the P5 Plus.
In the 2nd random read test, the SN850X is 3 times slower than the P5 Plus.
So which one is more likely to be faster overall?
Will u test it on PS5? Would love to see the results
Especially the 4tb one (with a heatsink, of course).
Does it need a heat sink?
3:45 Sabrent was actually the very first to bring a PCIe 4.0 drive to the market.
Very true, the Rocket 4.0, but they were not the first to bring a 7K SSD to the market (that's why I always make the 7K commercial distinction in my videos - like a pedantic dick! I know)
Hey Nas!
I just bought this m2 but i am unable to install windows.
I installed the harddrive, and using the windows on my SSD it's possible to see it in diskmanagement and as storage in "computer"
However, i am unable to see it in my windows installation (USB bootable)
I have tried just about everything and i searched google thin without hope, even asked on a forum but no luck..
Please be my saviour
Re: specs on the flash modules - I've been researching drives for a new build for multiple hours now. I'm in the US, where KIOXIA doesn't sell their consumer grade stuff, but after looking into it, I'm like 90% sure that this is, essentially, almost a rebrand of the KIOXIA exceria pro. The specs are almost identical, and WD's flash is made by Toshiba's (kioxia's) chip fab. In the rest of the civilized world, you can just buy the kioxia drive if you want the speed, but I think in the US, for ... marketing reasons (?), you are expected to settle on the WD Black.
Yes believe you are right. It has been impossible for example to get Plextor's M10P here in the states with BiCS 4. And that drive is highly desirable (TweakTown called it the best, eclipsed only by the SK Hynix P41 recently). You would think with a new Rev. 2 controller and BiCS 5 (possibly BiCS 6??) this drive would beat those.
Feeling quite happy with myself I just negotiated a 2tb version for £200 on ebay only worry is I don't think the warranty will be valid as its brought through ebay eeek
i have ben saving for a pc good gaming pc for the past 6 years now and yea the wd black sn850x 4TB ssd is something i will have as my C drive. whenni first found out about the drive it was a bit too expensive but now the prices has dropped to acceptable levels which is a relief as my budget is at around 4k$ which means yes i will have a RTX 4k series GPU but also get the benefits of high read and write speeds with that ssd. which is required as not only do i do a lot of modded gaming.. but i also do 3d modeling in blender and coding and such things and yea that ssd together with a RTX 4080 16GB will be a huge upgrade from the 10+ year old setup i currently am working with. not to mention that the new pc will have a much better cpu (a Ryzen 9 7950x 4.5 GHz 81 MB so even better then the one used in the benchmark testing of that ssd) then my current one.. as my current one do not have AVX support.. which has become a big problems when i wanna play games like subnautica BZ and slime rancher 2 as now game devs assume that all computers that ppl are using has that as standard.. but nope.. my current pc do not.. nor do my current motherboard support a newer cpu either due to how old everything is.. so yea i am looking forward to finally getting a new modern gaming pc
I have the 4TB version and can only get 3475 MB/s on CrystalDiskMark. I have a Dell Latitude 5591 laptop with an Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8850H CPU @ 2.60GHz, 2592 Mhz, 6 Core(s), 12 Logical Processor(s), and 32 GB of RAM. Is something wrong, or is this a reasonable speed?
how is your test for rand4k is so high all other tests I've seen are around 75
I know you said in this video that there's probably little difference between 850 & 850x in the ps5, but I would like a video with 850x in the ps5.
This one or Samsung 980 Pro w/ heatsink?
Need real world program/game installation times and loading, especially with the game mode.
Why would they not offer the 4tb version with a heatsink? Seems odd to me, and seems like the 4tb would get hotter.
u got a vid like this for the samsung 980 pro?
How does the 850x compare to the Firecuda 530?
Better random speed (IOPS), worse durability (roughly half the duty cycle of the FireCuda 530)
what is faster?
is this ssd too hot for a laptop?
7:31 Should you remove the sticker on the m.2 ssd? asking cause mine is on with a heatsink on it. >_>
The sticker that has the product name and possible Serial number etc? No, no need to remove it.
@@anonnomnom3282 thanks for the clarification.
My laptop has pcie 3.0 still buying this one 2TB because its cheaper than 970 evo plus 2TB option lol.
WD Black SN850X over the SN850 we'll only see an improvement in write output, but otherwise it's the same. So whatever is at a better price is worth it.
Firmware - WD Black SN850
611100WD - 01.2021
612100WD - 03.2021
613200WD - 07.2021
614300WD - 09.2021
614600WD - 11.2021
614900WD - 02.2022
Firmware - WD Black SN850X
620241WD - 06.2022
620281WD - 08.2022
620311WD - 01.2023
620331WD - 03.2023 - fixed the problem with \Device\RaidPort1 error.
not everyone is a cheapskate
Hello can you tell me how you install bashboard for gaming mode
Thank you!
Can you please expand on why you don't feel this is a great drive for PS5 application?
4TB currently $450. Every Amazon review is CONSISTENTLY showing PS5 read speeds of just over 6,500 MB/s; highest I've seen registered for PS5 application (i.e., Firecuda PS5 read speeds ranging 5,200 - 6,500 MB/s)
Tbh my view on this drive with PS5 has certainly changed since the original review..the main reason being the price drop! When WD managed to get official approval of their SN850 drive (it was always compatible, but only around summer 2022 did it get an official Sony license), it resulted in the price of it being increased and/or no longer on such good value offers. Whereas, the SN850X (which arrived In the market almost 20% more expensive than the SN850) has seen consistent price drops/offers. When I made this (and a few other Vids) on the SN850X, I said it was less/not suitable than the 850 because you would be paying much more for a similar level of performance. Fast forward to now and the X is cheaper in many places AND now we are starting to see development on the PS5 extended storage support increase 'write' utility. Basically, I now have a different opinion of what I said in the video because WD went wierd on the pricing! Hope that helps bud
@@nascompares very helpful! I'm new to researching SSDs. Thanks for the detailed response. Keep up the great work
for ps5 does it change from a nvme 1.3 or 1.4 like this sn850x?
@NASCopares May you or anyone else could please tell me if you have seen SN850X 4TB in your hand that, is 4TB single sided or it is double sided SSD? I am seeing conflicting comments, some says it is single sided and some saying it is double sided! Even in official data sheet they have mentioned exactly same thickness of SN850X regardless the capacity, that means according to data sheet 1TB and 4TB has same thickness, my laptop cannot accept double sided NVMe that's why I want to be sure if 4TB is one sided (I know 1 or 2TB are one sided)
Have u find the answer if the 4tb is a single or double sided drive? Thanks.
@@tjhana double sided
Is this compatible with Synology 1821+ ?
mine doesnt even read wtf it doesnt show up in partition either its like it doesnt exist
Ive Just got this ssd for christmas and have now bought an orico M.2 ssd enclosure with nvme m.2 ssd compatibility, however im unable to initialise the drive and it only appears in disk manager as one that cant be initialised and it appears in device manager but other than that it doesnt work even though its brand new adn it working on some pc's ive tried but not my own. The conclusion ive come to is either theres something wrong with the drive or my pc having had its operating system upgraded to windows 11 rather than a full clean install and so is having issues detecting it properly, Ive made sure the BIOS is updated and any outstanding updates for my os is installed as windows has a tendancy to disable certain functionality based on if youve updated it or not but low and behold it doesnt work still does anyone know how to fix it?
Nvme slot are left handed. Not right handed.
Nice shirt
d ram buffer?
i personally have never found appealing the value of WD's ssds. always 10-15% pricier where i live than samsung/crucial/kingston counterparts.
i like the hdds though
Debating this and a sn770 for my sons gaming computer running 5700xt and a ryzen 5600x
One thing is that this (850x) has dram cache and the (sn770) does not
For gaming purpose it is better to go with dram one, it is also better for the life of an ssd
Benchmark starts at 23:23, you're welcome
Please do a comparison between the SN850 and the SN850X in the PS5 with video of gameplay side by side.
Umm...do you mean...this - ruclips.net/video/bIKgqobT4mM/видео.html
prices have dropped 16/03/2023 today on amazon its £87 for 1tb.
Stuck it into a PCIe 3.0 with half the max speed, and still faster than high quality fastest PCIe 3.0 drive with similar max speeds. Due to bigger faster DRAM on WD drive, random read writes are faster.
Always buy WD, quality and reliability not found in any other. Not Samsung, not Kingston, not Seagate.
thanks for the, will buy it for my deskmini x300 🙂
Faster than 970 pro 1tb? 🤔
@@irwin976monblach get bigger TB, as you fill up, the performance of bigger one will be more useful. There is raw speed, and there is reduced overhead. Go with reduced overhead.
Imagine in the future people are just gonna casually have a Yottabyte on their phone 🤯
audio is out of sync
4tb is almost the same price as a PS5. Not desirable for me.
37mins 😢 for single ssd
I'm sorry it's too full of content and information. I'll skip the deets next time fo'sho!
teef
Dude, get to the point.
Can you please offer the ssd to mee? I need it so much for my ps5 :D
Thank you in advance :)
BLAH BLAH BLAH, Just rell us if its good for the PS5
Voice is not in sync with the mouth.
Looking at the fingers, not even it has hit the magical 7000 finger
I am positive cpu and ram and motherboard have influence in final speeds ,
🤔 even my gigabyte nvme has better stats than your wd .
Get to the point please
Petabyte....well yeah talk every day about it how far im away from it.
WD’s dashboard app is absolute dogshit. Never use it except for updates or maintenance, other than that uninstall it when you don’t need it. It absolutely destroys your pc’s performance. It maxes out your cpu usage no matter your settings or how good your cpu is. I contacted their customer support and they installed the app on their pc and were shocked at how much it destroyed their cpu usage also. They even had another rep that had a way more powerful pc try it too and same thing. They had no idea what to do about it. Such a weird pathetic issue. Even if you turned off the background process settings for it and didn’t have the program open there was still processes it was doing destroying your usage. You had to uninstall it completely to get your perf back. It’s been a year now so I’m hoping they maybe fixed it? Idk the whole thing seemed so negligent, careless, and ignorant.
please update and shud i buy 2tb sn850x
This drive sucks. Every single game crashes
The game mode is so stupid I can't even believe it if game mode is off game stutter if game mode is on games crash
Rtx4090 i9 14900ks
Rog Maximus Apex motherboard
I have a 980 pro Samsung and every time I suffer from crashing problems on the WD black
I transferred the game over to the 980 and it works and doesn't crash
I'm sending the stupid drive back to Newegg
Piece of garbage do not buy
Tried tested and true okay maybe I have a faulty drive
But my Samsung drive wasn't faulty I'm had it with this stupid WD black 8 50x garbage