I feel like Russ would have been a pretty good fit if the Lakers didn't lose Alex Caruso, and had kept either Kuzma or KCP in the trade for Russ. But I do agree Buddy Heild or DeMar DeRozan would have been a better option if they kept all other pieces. But hey GMs don't always get it right not even LeGM 🤣
@@narutoxborutofanatic Have you seen Russ this season? The guy's missing open layups, playing no defense and turning the ball over 10000 times per game Signing Buddy, making a trade for Demar and keeping Caruso would've been a lot better than this, they just had to get rid of Kuzma
@@scoutalejan8259 the above dude wasn’t saying Russ was good tho cuz Russ was a brick even at Okc which is why kd left 😂. Either way Buddy wouldn’t have been good option. I jus don’t understand why Lbj even considered Russ, cuz along w. Melo they nba championship repellents cuz while LeGM does anything and everything to win Russ+Melo do everything to stay as far away from championship 🤦🏽♂️
I believe it was a great move tbh, lebron took a 50/50 chance it just so happened to go left…if Russ was playing very great everyone would’ve been saying Lakers for championship
No...no coming back to Cleveland. I'm thankful for him bringing us a ring but please stay in LA and work on movies or something. I love the young core we got over here and if they stay together and develop like they've been doing they can can be a major potential playoff team and possibly eventually a finals team. I want a team like the home-grown Warriors. I think we got that right now.
The Warriors weren't home grown they only drafted their core most of their role players were traded and also there's Durant, Lebron can be your Durant he wouldn't trade the young core.
@@belarod5295 you right you right Steph, Klay, dray, Poole, wiseman, moody.. none of those guys count. Just guys like OPJ and Iggy.. they’re the ones that really get the wins
@@royalpalm_941 how so? He even said “its not about money anymore” i mean shit he’s probably close to having 700 million in his bank account. He could go to a contender and sign a vet minimum? Charles Barkley signed a 1 million dillar deal in 99 to get Pippen to the Rockets? It’s happened before
Sometimes Lebrons biggest enemy is his own ego. If he let the front office run that hield trade instead of putting his foot down and asking for WB, we’d be having a different conversation right now.
I will never understand that Westbrook trade. So stupid. Giving up good defensive role players for an inefficient turnover machine who doesn‘t make your team better.
Always funny to watch comments from people who think they know everything hield wouldn't make a difference or make the lakers better so idk why you acting like hes prime jordan or something hes inconsistent as hell. Also lebron, ad and the entire front office both had a hand in the westbrook trade thats been confirmed months ago so stop talking like it was all his decision.
@@andresdelportillo9917 Buddy is already ruined, he took the Kings nowhere. LeBron won a championship in every jersey he's ever worn. Let that sink in....
@@bamf6603 The 2011 Mavs also beat the Lakers that year and held Kobe to under 20 in the final two games. It was supposed to be Lakers v Heat. Kobe v LeBron. That 2011 Mavs team was just amazing and is totally underrated.
Say what you want but Bron took all these teams to like 10 straight finals barring 2 of the past 3 seasons. All these GM’s who are paid to do their job didn’t have to sign him knowing he would demand the best roster possible. When you get Bron you’re all in and everyone knows it. It’s easy to criticize towards the end of each of his tenures but in the MOMENT I’m pretty sure all these fan bases were glad he brought their team a ring. With that being said I do blame him on the Russ thing that was the wrong move plain and simple
@@stratosphere2323 Nice job talking out the other side of your mouth. The other side saying "what happened to those teams when LeiBwong left them? That's proof of LeiBwong's value compared to MJ when he left the Bulls". Riley rebuilt that Heat team after they were stuck with aging vets, Bosh and Wade on the steep decline. The Cavs are a top seed this season because of shrewd moves post LeiBwong. These two teams are back DESPITE LeiBwong setting them back for several years. The Cavs were trash for a while after LeiBwong Xiames left right? Because LeiBwong is so great?
At the end of the day, Westbrook has no excuses to be playing so horribly, If Lebron James himself tells you that he wants to play alonside you and is willing to give up his role so that you can be yourself ok the team, is your job to fix the problems you have with your playstyle, Westbrook doesn't have any experience winning championships, Lebron does Again, this doesn't excuse the fact that Pelinka should've ignored Lebron and make the trade for Hield, keep caruso and possibly sign Demar, I'm just saying that Westbrook should be better, he has no excuses to be missing so many layups and dunks
How do you blame Westbrook for Lebron wanting to play with him and him not living up, THEN blame Pelinka for trading for Westbrook.. smh lmaooo lebron nut riders do mental gymnastics
@@grammysworld5449 Because there's absolutely NO EXCUSE to be missing layups or wide open dunks so often There are 5 minutes compilations in RUclips of Westbrook doing this (of just this season), that tells you something, say what you want about Lebron system, but as far as I know, that system is responsible of getting to 10 finals in 19 seasons How many finals has Westbrook played? How many championships has he won? His playstyle doesn't win championships, the second Lebron recruited him, he needed to work on his game, fix his jumpshot, his playmaking, SLOWING TF DOWN, making better decisions ect.
@LeBum While it's true that Lebron isn't playing any defense, just look at how much he's helping on the offensive end, the guy's averaging 28 points per game Westbrook as a second option is averaging 18 on 43% shooting, was the leader in turnovers until he decided to nor pass the ball and focus on shooting (which is not working at all) and he's literally playing no defense, you can't have two guys not playing defense and only focusing on the offensive end smh
@@grammysworld5449 Oh btw Pretty sure that Pelinka is the GM, even if Lebron's "consulted" when the team is about to make a decision, if Pelinka disagreed with the Westbrook trade and wanted Hield, then he should've gotten Hield, he's not a child or anything like that, he should've just ignored Lebron, might've resulted in the Lakers actually doing well this season
@@scoutalejan8259 ignoring Lebron was what he did with not trading Russ for another Klutch client.. Rich Paul's camp was still going to leak out the reports on Pelinka either way... Pelinka had no option.. Only person smart enough to not let Lebron run the franchise was Pat Riley.. Coincidently, that's the only time a Lebron led team won back to back championships
As a Cleveland Cavs super fan, I have ABSOLUTELY no issues with what LeGM did in his second stint in Cleveland. Those moves brought us four straight Finals runs, as well as a title, which just doesn’t happen in Cleveland sports. The moves made at the end in 2018 were made out of desperation for one last gasp run with Lebron…. No issues. It’s not Lebron’s fault the the Nets went on a crazy run to win a bunch of meaningless trades so the Sexton pick was 8 instead of the top three pick expected. That’s just bad luck and the Cavs could’ve accelerated there post Lebron run significantly had that pick gotten them Trae or Luka. It’s just history. What LeGM does WORKS. You can’t deny that.
As a Lakers fan yes the Lakers should rebuild a 39 old Lebron and a injury prone AD won’t lead to another championship might as well trade them for something
@@sac1211 when the player keep saying their going to be better n tell everyone to keep the same energy but comes out n stat pad losses, then he plays no defense
I don’t think trading Wiggins for Love was the right move.. they could have waited 1 season then signed Love while keeping Wiggins. I think the Cavs with LeGM, Kyrie, Wiggins, etc. Would have still came out of the East that season. Love getting hurt in the 1st round an they still made the finals proves that.
@@endk.3500 also im just saying Wiggins would have helped them? I think the Cavs trading Wiggins like that early in his career affected him early in his career. Hes a solid role player, an made the all star team as a starter. I think that’s because people vote for Warriors players.. but still
LeGM has been the “GM” ever since he left Miami. Period. He didn’t mention Andrew Wiggins in his “im coming home” letter and boom… Wiggins was traded. He signs off on every move the Cavs and Lakers have made since 2014. Period
Such a goofy argument, LeGM is him supposedly flat out building his team. People mistake him having input as him making all the decisions, every team he has been on has made moves he didn’t like. If you think KD doesn’t have input, or steph or any other superstar you’re just naive. The truth is that the guy is more knowledgeable and involved in recruiting than most. LeCoach would be a much more truthful moniker. Ever since player empowerment became a thing they have all been partial GM’s, it isn’t much different than players forcing where they play.
@@drethom087 name 1 move a team has done Legm didnt like? And of course Steph and KD are making moves to, but they aren’t doing the same shit Legm has done and got away with in his career. If anything Legm is mad about moves that his team DIDNT make
Great video! I do think it's important to realize that the Warriors had one of the easiest paths to the WCF ever in 2017, and the Kawhi went down the first game for the Spurs. And the Spurs folded. So, the Warriors came into the 2017 finals insanely fresh, and it showed in that first game. And it showed in the close second game. But the Cavs showed what they were capable of in the historic game 4. If Kawhi doesn't go down in the 2017 WCF, then I think you're looking at a much closer series in 2017 that goes 7 games. Yes, the Warriors had added KD, but Klay and Draymond sacrificed a lot of scoring in the playoffs to make the KD and Steph duo work, and the Warriors had less depth. So, the 2017 Warriors were about equal to the 2016 Warriors. They just looked so fresh in the finals, because they basically had a bye in the WCF. And in 2018, the Warriors got an easier final two games in the WCF against the Rockets, when CP3 went down with the Rockets leading 3-2. If he hadn't gone down and if the Warriors had still won (a big if), then they would have been just a hair more exhausted in game 1. And with LeBron's 51, a slightly more exhausted Warriors team is going to lose. And the Warriors going down 1-0 in 2018 changes the whole course of that series. If the Rockets had beaten the Warriors... well, the Rockets were a better team than the Cavs, but they would have been WIPED from facing the Warriors. Again, Cavs go up 1-0. But in 2018, with the Warriors having slightly easier games in game 6 and 7 against the Rockets, they were fresher. The Cavs had had two 7 game serieses with no "easy games." So, even LeBron's 51 wasn't enough to win game 1 after the JR mistake. Anyway... where am I going with this? People overlook how earlier games in the playoffs affect the finals. Had things gone differently earlier on in both 2017 and 2018, LeBron could have either won those years or gotten much closer to winning. If that had happened, then we'd be thinking that he was genius general manager. Instead, we think that he made mistakes. But who really knows? We can't see all possible timelines... Again, amazing video. Nothing I said was in disagreement with what you said. Just pointing out some additional thoughts.
Extremely well put and into a perspective most people, including myself, didn't consider. Everyone talks about JR's late game heroics for the Warriors in game 1, but nobody considers the possibility of a tired Warriors team coming off a 7 game series vs Houston.
As a Cavs fan I’ve always thought they did a decent job with the team. They may not have gotten him a superstar but they got him good players like Hughes, big z, and mo Williams things just didn’t work out.
@@WalterFlanagin yeah but the Cavs did what they realistically could with what they had. The only really bad decision they made with lebron was letting boozer go
@@td3214 i mean yeah but that’s all it takes right? Jordan’s front office was either really good or happened to get really lucky, Lebron’s happened to get a little unlucky. Team building is really interesting in that sense bc it’s always such a gamble.
I feel like the LeGM stuff is an overreaction and really doesn’t affect LeBron’s legacy. What I do believe is that after LeBron left CLE the way he did, teams became concerned with appeasing his interests and doing what it takes to keep him… and I think the Napier pick made this very apparent to LeBron. And while I believe this stuff is irrelevant to LeBron the player, to be fair, no one is going to call Bill Belichick (an all-time great coach) one of the best GMs in NFL history… cause he just isn’t. Everyone has a weakness. But LeBron is smart, and he knows he can express his opinions, teams will panic to keep him and follow those opinions up with roster decisions, and he can claim he has no hand in it while he moves to another team.
I think in 2015 the Cavs should have traded Kyrie and picks for Derrick Favors,Ramon Sessions and Rudy Gay, Then would could have had a lineup of Lebron Favors Gay Love Sessions
@@thefuturegamer4563 i posted it on Facebook years back an everyone was like “that would never happen, stupid trade, salary cap” but they failed to get the joke i had to explain it to them 😂
He speaks solely in absolutes, doesnt state anything that opposes his arguement, over-exxagerates literally everything, picks and chooses his sources and stats that only support his arguements and uses extreme bias towards his arguements..... Everytime I watch his videos, I find myself fact checking and often times theres two sides to every story his makes a video on and so many times theres a story that isnt nearly as controversial or one-sided.
Literally the only player the Lakers had to trade regardless of everything this past off season was Kyle Kuzma, I agree with this video, they exaggerated, I like Bron a lot, he's my favorite player of all time but he fucked up big time, he should've left Pelinka alone to do his job, signing Demar, Monk, Melo and Dwight and keeping Caruso (and probably Pope) would've been a better decision Their defense sucks BIG TIME this season and no one aside from Lebron and Monk ocasionally helps on the offensive end consistently, you know it"@ bad when a rookie called Austin Reaves seems like the only guy that actually wantes to win
If the Lakers signed DeMar with the guys you mentioned it wouldve been over, DeMar was exactly who Lebron wanted. A go to guy who can carry the team on some nights.... Lebron probably had his judgement clouded from when he used to dominate the Rapotrs I guess
@@MikeKorzemba Yeah... but still, Lebron should've thought about it Let's say that Demar drops his intensity in the postseason and his stats show it, the team still has Lebron and AD, the duo we've seen dominate before surrounded by a bunch of great defenders that can also help you on the offensive end (And I have a feeling Reaves and Caruso on the perimeter would've been scary since both of them have a similar playstyle), not to mention, that roster is a lot younger than the one they have now, age is actually a big factor on why the Lakers are doing so bad this season A roster with LBJ, AD, Demar, Monk, Melo, Dwight, Caruso, Pope, Harrell, Reaves and Nunn would've been amazing, and they still would've had a chance to sign another player since without they wouldn't have to deal with Westbrook's massive contract (Johnson would've still landed on the Lakers and maybe even Rondo)
I think that LBJ is a basketball genious, in terms of making the right play, because he can score and pass with the best of them, he can defend whenever he wants to, he can rebound, but he's not the GOAT. That guy is one Michael Air Jordan. But LBJ is definitely one of the GOATS. And the dude is really smart. I remember when in a press conference. a reporter asked him what happened in the last couple of minutes of a playoff game, and instead of giving a general answer, he gave a very detailed answer about what had happened, in the last couple of minutes. Having said that, great players don't usually become succesful coaches or gms, with the exceptions of Jerry West and possibly Larry Bird (he didn't coach for that long, because he had some health issues, but he still was the coach of the year in 98, and led the Pacers to the NBA finals in 2000. And he did that in only 3 years of coaching (1997-2000).
lebron is by far the goat. played in the most skilled era ever while mj played in the weak expansion era with some players not even be able to dribble with their weak hand, lmaoooo. its not even a contest.
We need to also consider the intangibles of this debate. MJ wouldn’t walk off the court in the rare times his team is getting blown out. It demoralizes the team when you show a quitter attitude in moments like that and LBJ has done that a lot in LA. MJ also busted the asses of his teammates even when they were playing well because he knew that they weren’t going to get over the championship hump unless he did so. If you’re going to assert your will with the front office, then you gotta double assert your will on your teammates at times like this!
i mean the season isnt over if they pull it together and win the chip and he leaves thats more then fair on his part he would have did his job in that sense.
the 2014 NBA Finals proved that Lebron is nothing but HOT AIR, he is heard in a short youtube vid saying follow my lea, 2016 cavalier won, he hugged the trophy saying he is the reason why they won
A really good video as always Mike. I feel like the LeGM thing comes to a few things. 1: At the end of the day, front offices are going to try to make their star players happy. While star players CAN/WILL have influence, at the end of the day it's still the call of the GM. 2. Can we really fault LeBron for all these players either getting injured or playing at embarrassing levels after they join his team? Can we really fault these GM's for not standing up for themselves or holding the ground when they don't agree with LeBron?
I always knew this was going to happend eventually. People liked to penalize Jordan for Wizards years, not willing to wait how will Lebron age. And now we know how. Execlly like Jordan. Stats there, sucess isn't. And turning into grumpy old player that barks at teammates for mistakes while playing no defense and gives up on multiple plays in game. Same was with Kobe and MJ. Falling for grace for guys with such a sucess is very hard. They can't let it go. They can't admit they no longer can be best players on a team and they won't take backseast to anybody. And that is their downfall.
Difference is Jordan was out for three years enjoying life, and returned when he was 38, a year older than Lebron is now. It's not an apples for apples comparison. When you're not training day in day out in your mid-late 30s, you can never near that level again if you've been three years out. I don't understand how people don't get that. If Jordan had kept playing up until 99-00, then you could compare.
Injury was what caused MJs downfall. WAS was 26-20, 4th in East before his injury. That’s after starting 2-9. In his last 20 games up to the injury he averaged 27.5 - 6.4 - 5.2 - 1.3 - 0.5 on 44% In his last 10 games up to the injury he averaged 29.7 - 6.6 - 6.1 - 1.2 - 0.3 on 47%. They also had the #3 defense. After his season ending injury. WAS went 11-25 after his injury. When rip Hamilton was healthy they went 15-1. If not for his injury it would be interesting to see what that team would do. Just to add, tell me a player that late in their career that would even try to lead a 19 win team?
@@jimmiejohnson8639 Yep, exactly - he was starting to play fantastic in a much poorer team than the Lakers. Imagine MJ at 37 having not taken that 3 year retirement. It’s just not comparable. He played all 82 games at 35, MVP, All Star MVP, Finals MVP, scoring champion and First Team All Defense. Nobody in history has a season like that at 35. He wouldn’t be as dominant at 37 had he not retired, though knowing his work ethic, he wouldn’t be far away.
@@DoubleDash28 I’m convinced he’d have won 4 in a row. 1999 was a shortened season which would have played right in to the Bulls’ hands as would give Pippen time to recover. Ppl talk about the finger injury in Jan 99 but he wouldn’t have been in the Bahamas in a casino so close to start of the season in Feb if he wasn’t retiring.
it doesnt show up on the stats sheet but we see it and that's why LeBron can't be better than Jordan or Kobe. I cant even imagine either of them just standin there on defense.
@@cjvaye99 kobe's defense is so overrated he always played the passing lanes because he was never on the best offensive player on the opposing team.. Just look at his last championship he wasnt guarding Ray Allen or Pierce he guarded Rondo the weakest one on offense.... In the first 3peat Rick Fox guarded the top player on the other team
@@arizonaFIREent your hilarious if you think rondo was bad. Rondo was the main facilitator for the Celtics, easiest way to shut down a team is by shutting down their best playmaker which disrupts the whole team. He didn’t want rondo to drive and kick. This shows how much you actually know about basketball,
@@cjvaye99 It's official, you've never seen Kobe or Jordan play. Stop listening to Skip and Stephen A tell you lies about Jordan and Kobe. EVERY Legend took plays off!
@@arizonaFIREent it made sense for Kobe to guard Rondo. Rajon was not a good shooter that's true but that doesnt mean he couldnt slice up your team by cutting to the basket and his passing. Kobe guarded him because Fisher was too slow. Rondo would blow by him. Since Ray Allen was mostly a spot up shooter it made sense for the slower Fisher to guard him instead of getting burned by Rondo. as for Pierce yeah it was Ron Artest guarding him that was the whole purpose to bring him there so he could guard bigger stronger perimeter players that Kobe would have trouble with. But anytime they needed to stop an opposing teams elite point guard that was Kobe doing that. Just go watch 2010 series vs the thunder Russell Westbrook was carving up the Lakers until Kobe shut him down.
Mike, Is this your primary job or is this channel more of a hobby? I was just wondering because it seems like you put a ton of time and effort into your videos to make good content. Keep up the good work!
Little known fact, before Bron and AD went to recruit Russ, they tried to recruit Dame, but Dame told them he wasn’t about joining super teams. Months later Dame one of the most hated players by fans and media cuz he “loyal”. I wholeheartedly believe Bron and Rich Paul influenced media behind the scenes to bash Dame.
Mike your making a comeback been watching for years it hit a lull I’m not going to lie but lately you’ve been putting out banger videos love watching youtubers I’ve been w for years still doing it at a high level
This is why I'm critical towards him. I respect him as a players but for him to be running to teams an recruiting top superstars tells me he needs top 5 talent to win. Granted I came up in a different era this is the new way to win 🏆
LeBrons influence alone is so strong. Feel like sometimes teams try and please Bron a bit to much. I do not think Bron has total say over all these trades/drafts.
Here’s the deciding stat for those that don’t like the Jordan 6-0 finals argument…. Number of playoff games scoring 50+ points Jordan- 8 Lebron- 1 Kobe- 1
When I use to play GM on Madden and ESPN NFL 2k5 as a kid I never understood how to find a talented player in the draft. I would just trade picks to grt established guys in the league or trade picks to get rookies and young guys with talent. It's smarter because you know what they can do in the league not hoping they do as good in the league.
Lebron holds some responsibility, but how is Rob in a big position and the player is making the decision, that's ridiculous and Rob was right Buddy was a better fit
Yea he may not make the call, but he’s definitely 100% signing off on every move the Cavs and Lakers have made. He wasn’t LeGM in Miami and his first stint in Cleveland. Ever since he came back to the Cavs? He has been LeGM
I mean, from this point, you could say that DeMar would have been a better option, but if he played with LeBron he wouldn't have this type of season (I am not a Westbrook fan by any means, just saying that every league star who played with LeBron played worse than before they teamed up).
"And the Lakers *did* win a Championship together." ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Yeah, technically. And technically Barry Bonds is the Home Run king. That doesn't mean anyone recognizes him as such.
@Vaibhav Satheesh Kobe beat more competition with less help. Lebron was given the keys while Kobe had to work with them. Kobe is the better scorer, and the better defender. Lebron only has playmaking over Kobe. I can go into more depth but that's all I gotta say now.
@@Ichifate lebron averages more points than kobe for a career and he shoots 51% from the field while also shooting better from 3 and around the rim...and Kobe beat more comp with less help? R u serious?😂😂he had shaq for the first 8 years of his career and shaq averaged 34 points across those 3 finals and Kobe wasn’t even the best player on that team...plus his finals comp in those finals aren’t anywhere close to lebron...the only team Kobe faced in the finals that is even comparable is the Celtics...and even then they aren’t better than the dynasty spurs, the 73-9 warriors or the KD warriors...there is literally no argument u can make for Kobe being better than lebron, he outclasses him in career stats, advanced stats, accolades, and all time stats😂😂😂😂
Kyrie wanted out cause after 2 years he finally figured out where all those CP3 for Kyrie trade rumors kept coming from. That's why his last year in CLE was so awkward....then the Bledsoe/PG rumors sent him over the edge. KD told the truth.....and he was just scratching the surface. #DudeWasNeverCloseToGOAT
I feel like Bron’s choices with the cavs the second time would have been a lot better if a) warriors and KD didn’t do something crazy (ironically only possible post lebron player mobility) and b) kyrie knew his role
You know why I know Lebron isn't the GOAT? Because we're even having that debate. Back in the day, in MJ's prime, there was no debate. We KNEW he was the GOAT.
The media been pushing Lebron for the last six years and he great but he not MJ. I heard the cheers for the All-star weekend and it seems louder for MJ
A lot of speculation in this video saying he been running teams for years. Camelo is like Bro friend so they got jokes....also good move. Westbrook though ultimately is a bad fit. But everyone admits Westbrook is a weapon so of course you look at it and go I would love that guy on my team. Also weak GMs are still to blame. One thing is PROVEN, Born doesn't throw away games. A lot of people have ruled lakers out but the man is still breaking records. The Gm and coaches should have done the trades for the right fit. Also the "Running it back" line is false. They some what ran it back after the 2020 finals and lost.
But why is it always the Knicks every time a star is in free agency all the Knicks fans are like he is coming here we're getting a title and all they get is like Julius Randle. They're totally cursed. But for real Knicks Bron and Cavs Bron would be cool.
I think lebron has always been stat chasing. This whole thing with bronny is cool and all but he just wants that accolade but he’s setting himself up to do have one last first before he retires.
I don’t see why anyone would think Lebron is the GOAT. You think Jordan would just quit his team after several playoff failures? If Jordan take a pay cut to join Lakers or Celtics like Lebron did Jordan would have won 10 titles If you jumping ship whenever your team starts going bad you don’t deserve to be named the GOAT because GOAT won’t fucking quit his team like Lebron did
Dude, it's not even close, Jordan is THE Goat. Lebron's hunger for reaching the 6th ring has made him desperate and therefore has greatly damaged his chances at winning the 6th, let alone pass MJ.
Yeah. I wasn’t around for MJ so maybe my perspective is skewed, but after he got his first ring, all the other ones seemed so effortless. Like Ik it was still hard to win, but it didn’t take tons of front office moves, or changing teams, or playoff-less seasons, or getting swept in the finals. Im it’s not all Brons fault, but seeing him struggle to get from 1 ring to 4 rings, and the struggle since the last ring, is really not putting him in the best light in the GOAT debate. Right now all he really has is longevity, and finals “appearances” which nobody considers an accolade anyway until it comes to LeBron going to 10 straight.
Casuals, haters, ppl who believe every report from anonymous sources blaming LeBron for this disaster are pure comedy to me. Pelinka & FO simply gutted a 2019-20🏆 team move (or non move) after move with cheap/dumb AF FO & ownership. Peep the last 17 months since Oct2020🏆 (not even counting Lakers MORONICALLY not giving LeBron’s coach Ty Lue the 💰/years he deserved or else he’s the coach even though Vogel does get way too much hate by this fan base when the front office is clearly the main issue as Vogel 1 of 10 coaches EVER to take 2 diff teams to conference finals or farther including 2 straight with my young AF Pacers who started Lance & Hibbert, taking Heatles 6/7/6 in 3 straight playoffs ECSF/ECF/ECF 2012-2014): *Let McGhee walk for nothing (for old AF Marc Gasol) *Let Rondo walk twice for nothin (yes he’s old but he’s basically another coach on the bench and in film room that helps everyone + playoff rondo is real!) *Let Caruso Walk for nothing *Not trading for Lowry at 2021 trade deadline bc THT *overpaying THT who should of been gone for Lowry *Not giving DeRozan the 3rd year he wanted or else he’d be a Laker and Westbrook wouldn’t (same with Lowry!) *Agreeing to yr14 Westbrook🚮fit🚮contract trade So Lakers had the power to say “Nope we aren’t hiring the coach you want Ty Lue LeBron”, “Nope we aren’t bringing Caruso back like you want” (luxury tax cheap AF and overpaying THT who should be gone for Lowry and LeBron always prefers vets), “Nope we aren’t giving DeRozan 3rd year to give you 3rd all star level player who is a good fit” “Nope we aren’t bringing McGhee back who is a great lob threat for you and solid interior defender” “Nope we’re gonna let rondo walk twice”, but they can’t say “Nope you and AD’s Westbrook idea is a bad idea?!?!!” Make it make sense! Of course they could of and should of said no to that! For ppl to ignore all that is lunacy! The fact so many casuals, LeBron haters, Kobe Stan’s (do they defense Pelinka bc Kobe’s best friend?) all blame Vogel/LeBron/Russ and not Pelinka/FO/Ownership is just 😂to me! AD shooting and inconsistency in heart of his prime is something to blame also! He’s the one great player actually in his prime! Also LeBron’s Cavs FO/GM from 99-02 before he got there and his first 7 years were an absolute DUMPSTER 🔥! He had no one close to all nba level talent in his first 7 years like most other GOAT. “The Cavs made a HUGE splash in FA with Larry Hughes” “The Cavs FO did their best” 🤣🤣🤣. Name one good draft pick they made in 7 years! Moe Williams is a career 13 ppg and Wallace/Shaq were old AF! The same Larry Hughes who in first 7 seasons averaged 15 ppg 5, 3 on BAD 41.5 FG% & 🚮27 3P% while -994 AKA he didn’t lead to winning at ALL (lost 60% of games he played almost 100 games under .500). www.statmuse.com/nba/ask?q=larry+hughes+record+1998-99+to+2004-05 LeBron hate is a disease. How TF is it his fault he didn’t have a HOF amazing GM like MJ Pippen Kobe Shaq Duncan Kareem Magic Bird Isiah Russell Wade etc?!?! LeBron played with ONE great GM in his career (Pat Riley) period. Actual GMs/FO make the final call PERIOD! Always have always will regardless of narratives haters try and say. If a GM is dumb enough to do exactly what any player says they’re a horrid GM! Also how did this cripple Cavs when they had four first round picks since he left and finally started to draft well with Sexton Okoro Garland Mobley Also this conveniently leaves out that Cavs had Paul George for Kyrie but my Pacers backed out last second.
@@linorestrepolobo3620 old head take, stop living in the past. lebron’s era is far more competitive, skilled and all around better at the game of basketball than jordan’s era. you jordan stans seem to forget about evolution. but deep down we all know who the goat is 😆👑
@@ghsf1234 right! Also Daniel Tan logic makes no sense when you're consistently getting to finals and attaining rings throughout one's career. If doomed means bringing a city a ring, I'm pretty sure everyone would love to be doomed by Lebron given that he has won a chip for every franchise he has played for. Pretty sure that's the goal, by any means necessary.
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That’s a testament to how great of a player he is not Gm. If he stayed with the heat and let Pat Riley and Spoelstra do their job he’d def had more rings.
this was a video i didn't realize how much i needed this video today, nicely done. also loved the line of "i may have been born at night, but not last night" LOL
I feel like Russ would have been a pretty good fit if the Lakers didn't lose Alex Caruso, and had kept either Kuzma or KCP in the trade for Russ. But I do agree Buddy Heild or DeMar DeRozan would have been a better option if they kept all other pieces. But hey GMs don't always get it right not even LeGM 🤣
They should've kept KCP, Kuzma had to go, I think Malik Monk was more than enough to cover for him
Buddy hield, really? He wouldn’t have done anything 💀 have you seen him this season
@@narutoxborutofanatic Have you seen Russ this season?
The guy's missing open layups, playing no defense and turning the ball over 10000 times per game
Signing Buddy, making a trade for Demar and keeping Caruso would've been a lot better than this, they just had to get rid of Kuzma
@@scoutalejan8259 the above dude wasn’t saying Russ was good tho cuz Russ was a brick even at Okc which is why kd left 😂. Either way Buddy wouldn’t have been good option. I jus don’t understand why Lbj even considered Russ, cuz along w. Melo they nba championship repellents cuz while LeGM does anything and everything to win Russ+Melo do everything to stay as far away from championship 🤦🏽♂️
I believe it was a great move tbh, lebron took a 50/50 chance it just so happened to go left…if Russ was playing very great everyone would’ve been saying Lakers for championship
No...no coming back to Cleveland. I'm thankful for him bringing us a ring but please stay in LA and work on movies or something. I love the young core we got over here and if they stay together and develop like they've been doing they can can be a major potential playoff team and possibly eventually a finals team. I want a team like the home-grown Warriors. I think we got that right now.
The Warriors weren't home grown they only drafted their core most of their role players were traded and also there's Durant, Lebron can be your Durant he wouldn't trade the young core.
If Lebron came signed back to Cleveland on a vets minimum and yall didn’t have to trade anyone, you wouldn’t take him? You lieng.
@@belarod5295 you right you right Steph, Klay, dray, Poole, wiseman, moody.. none of those guys count. Just guys like OPJ and Iggy.. they’re the ones that really get the wins
@@chrisbeach423 this is the most pointless hypothetical
@@royalpalm_941 how so? He even said “its not about money anymore” i mean shit he’s probably close to having 700 million in his bank account. He could go to a contender and sign a vet minimum? Charles Barkley signed a 1 million dillar deal in 99 to get Pippen to the Rockets? It’s happened before
I don’t blame him for wanting to play with bronny, that would be sick to see no matter where he goes
Fr bro it would be legendary and I hope they play well if they do end up on the same team
happy to see a indian brother
I hope the Jazz call up Zaire so he can play against Bronny
I can't wait till lebron is out of the nba. He's a 🤡
@@matolaugh6167 you hatin on a man that doesnt even know you exist and you ae still broke
Sometimes Lebrons biggest enemy is his own ego. If he let the front office run that hield trade instead of putting his foot down and asking for WB, we’d be having a different conversation right now.
He’d ruin heild
I will never understand that Westbrook trade. So stupid. Giving up good defensive role players for an inefficient turnover machine who doesn‘t make your team better.
Always funny to watch comments from people who think they know everything hield wouldn't make a difference or make the lakers better so idk why you acting like hes prime jordan or something hes inconsistent as hell. Also lebron, ad and the entire front office both had a hand in the westbrook trade thats been confirmed months ago so stop talking like it was all his decision.
@@andresdelportillo9917 Buddy is already ruined, he took the Kings nowhere. LeBron won a championship in every jersey he's ever worn. Let that sink in....
At the end of the day it's the GMs decision it's not LeBron's fault even if he did say he wanted Westbrook
bro your content has hit a major upgrade recently. keep up the good work, i’m looking forward to more content like this.
Appreciate that my man, been working hard over here so happy you noticed!
Bro, Jordan was considered the GOAT after his 3rd ring.
The next 3 just sealed him forever. I remember the conversations at the time.
Who cares jordan is an alcoholic narcissistic bum who cheats on his wife hes the most overrated player i have ever seen.
@@sac1211 lol when did I ever hear of him taking alcohol
Jordan used peds no one cares about his bald black @$$
@@Omega2322 no he didn’t but ok
@@sac1211 how was he narcissistic when he gave his teammates credit when they media was giving him most of the credit, the other 23 is the narcissist
I can't believe 11 years ago he left to Miami. The city was so alive when that team was there. It was unreal
Basketball can truly change so much
@@MikeKorzemba so true. It's fascinating
And they managed to lose in their first year..
@@bamf6603 just goes to show the best players can lose on any day. Don't forget that og
@@bamf6603 The 2011 Mavs also beat the Lakers that year and held Kobe to under 20 in the final two games. It was supposed to be Lakers v Heat. Kobe v LeBron. That 2011 Mavs team was just amazing and is totally underrated.
Say what you want but Bron took all these teams to like 10 straight finals barring 2 of the past 3 seasons. All these GM’s who are paid to do their job didn’t have to sign him knowing he would demand the best roster possible. When you get Bron you’re all in and everyone knows it. It’s easy to criticize towards the end of each of his tenures but in the MOMENT I’m pretty sure all these fan bases were glad he brought their team a ring. With that being said I do blame him on the Russ thing that was the wrong move plain and simple
And how many help did he get a lot
Every team lebron went he literally destroy it treding all draft picks and youngesters
@@stratosphere2323 he destroyed the whole lakers franchise.so badly that magic stepped down
@@stratosphere2323 destroyed the Cavs, twice. Could’ve destroyed the Heat if Pat Riley didn’t have the balls to tell Lebron no:
@@stratosphere2323 Nice job talking out the other side of your mouth. The other side saying "what happened to those teams when LeiBwong left them? That's proof of LeiBwong's value compared to MJ when he left the Bulls".
Riley rebuilt that Heat team after they were stuck with aging vets, Bosh and Wade on the steep decline. The Cavs are a top seed this season because of shrewd moves post LeiBwong. These two teams are back DESPITE LeiBwong setting them back for several years. The Cavs were trash for a while after LeiBwong Xiames left right? Because LeiBwong is so great?
@@zachcoggins9018 Yup. LeiBwong Xiames tried to get Spoelstra fired.
At the end of the day, Westbrook has no excuses to be playing so horribly, If Lebron James himself tells you that he wants to play alonside you and is willing to give up his role so that you can be yourself ok the team, is your job to fix the problems you have with your playstyle, Westbrook doesn't have any experience winning championships, Lebron does
Again, this doesn't excuse the fact that Pelinka should've ignored Lebron and make the trade for Hield, keep caruso and possibly sign Demar, I'm just saying that Westbrook should be better, he has no excuses to be missing so many layups and dunks
How do you blame Westbrook for Lebron wanting to play with him and him not living up, THEN blame Pelinka for trading for Westbrook.. smh lmaooo lebron nut riders do mental gymnastics
@@grammysworld5449 Because there's absolutely NO EXCUSE to be missing layups or wide open dunks so often
There are 5 minutes compilations in RUclips of Westbrook doing this (of just this season), that tells you something, say what you want about Lebron system, but as far as I know, that system is responsible of getting to 10 finals in 19 seasons
How many finals has Westbrook played? How many championships has he won? His playstyle doesn't win championships, the second Lebron recruited him, he needed to work on his game, fix his jumpshot, his playmaking, SLOWING TF DOWN, making better decisions ect.
@LeBum While it's true that Lebron isn't playing any defense, just look at how much he's helping on the offensive end, the guy's averaging 28 points per game
Westbrook as a second option is averaging 18 on 43% shooting, was the leader in turnovers until he decided to nor pass the ball and focus on shooting (which is not working at all) and he's literally playing no defense, you can't have two guys not playing defense and only focusing on the offensive end smh
@@grammysworld5449 Oh btw
Pretty sure that Pelinka is the GM, even if Lebron's "consulted" when the team is about to make a decision, if Pelinka disagreed with the Westbrook trade and wanted Hield, then he should've gotten Hield, he's not a child or anything like that, he should've just ignored Lebron, might've resulted in the Lakers actually doing well this season
@@scoutalejan8259 ignoring Lebron was what he did with not trading Russ for another Klutch client.. Rich Paul's camp was still going to leak out the reports on Pelinka either way... Pelinka had no option.. Only person smart enough to not let Lebron run the franchise was Pat Riley.. Coincidently, that's the only time a Lebron led team won back to back championships
As a Cleveland Cavs super fan, I have ABSOLUTELY no issues with what LeGM did in his second stint in Cleveland. Those moves brought us four straight Finals runs, as well as a title, which just doesn’t happen in Cleveland sports. The moves made at the end in 2018 were made out of desperation for one last gasp run with Lebron…. No issues. It’s not Lebron’s fault the the Nets went on a crazy run to win a bunch of meaningless trades so the Sexton pick was 8 instead of the top three pick expected. That’s just bad luck and the Cavs could’ve accelerated there post Lebron run significantly had that pick gotten them Trae or Luka. It’s just history. What LeGM does WORKS. You can’t deny that.
That's the thing. People criticize "LeGM" as if he didn't make 8 straight finals and has 4 rings.
As a Lakers fan yes the Lakers should rebuild a 39 old Lebron and a injury prone AD won’t lead to another championship might as well trade them for something
We dont care about your opinions you guys booed your own team classless
37*
@@sac1211 when the player keep saying their going to be better n tell everyone to keep the same energy but comes out n stat pad losses, then he plays no defense
@@traulan8421 exac if anything they deserved to get booed
@@Monkey-wq5sg still pretty old but thanks for correction 😂
I don’t think trading Wiggins for Love was the right move.. they could have waited 1 season then signed Love while keeping Wiggins. I think the Cavs with LeGM, Kyrie, Wiggins, etc. Would have still came out of the East that season. Love getting hurt in the 1st round an they still made the finals proves that.
😆👎
Wiggins doesn’t elevate that team much more than they already were, Wiggins wasn’t as good as Love was that season and Wiggins was on an awful team
Also the only reason they got KLove is because LeBron wasn’t coming back unless he was there
@@endk.3500 lebron came back before they traded for Love tho 🤔
@@endk.3500 also im just saying Wiggins would have helped them? I think the Cavs trading Wiggins like that early in his career affected him early in his career. Hes a solid role player, an made the all star team as a starter. I think that’s because people vote for Warriors players.. but still
As a frustrated Knicks fan I'm loving the thumbnail
Same
He should win them a title to be the undisputed goat also people scared of him to go to the east that’s why they wanted him in the west
Same, I’d be so happy if LeBron went to the knicks
Hey I'm in Jersey I would love Lebron playing at MSG lol
@@MikeKorzemba what’s up man I’m watching this rn
LeGM has been the “GM” ever since he left Miami. Period. He didn’t mention Andrew Wiggins in his “im coming home” letter and boom… Wiggins was traded. He signs off on every move the Cavs and Lakers have made since 2014. Period
Such a goofy argument, LeGM is him supposedly flat out building his team. People mistake him having input as him making all the decisions, every team he has been on has made moves he didn’t like. If you think KD doesn’t have input, or steph or any other superstar you’re just naive. The truth is that the guy is more knowledgeable and involved in recruiting than most. LeCoach would be a much more truthful moniker. Ever since player empowerment became a thing they have all been partial GM’s, it isn’t much different than players forcing where they play.
When the guy retires he should own a team on be a GM dude is dam good at
It won them a championship 🏆
Period.
@@drethom087 name 1 move a team has done Legm didnt like? And of course Steph and KD are making moves to, but they aren’t doing the same shit Legm has done and got away with in his career. If anything Legm is mad about moves that his team DIDNT make
Great video! I do think it's important to realize that the Warriors had one of the easiest paths to the WCF ever in 2017, and the Kawhi went down the first game for the Spurs. And the Spurs folded. So, the Warriors came into the 2017 finals insanely fresh, and it showed in that first game. And it showed in the close second game. But the Cavs showed what they were capable of in the historic game 4. If Kawhi doesn't go down in the 2017 WCF, then I think you're looking at a much closer series in 2017 that goes 7 games. Yes, the Warriors had added KD, but Klay and Draymond sacrificed a lot of scoring in the playoffs to make the KD and Steph duo work, and the Warriors had less depth. So, the 2017 Warriors were about equal to the 2016 Warriors. They just looked so fresh in the finals, because they basically had a bye in the WCF.
And in 2018, the Warriors got an easier final two games in the WCF against the Rockets, when CP3 went down with the Rockets leading 3-2. If he hadn't gone down and if the Warriors had still won (a big if), then they would have been just a hair more exhausted in game 1. And with LeBron's 51, a slightly more exhausted Warriors team is going to lose. And the Warriors going down 1-0 in 2018 changes the whole course of that series.
If the Rockets had beaten the Warriors... well, the Rockets were a better team than the Cavs, but they would have been WIPED from facing the Warriors. Again, Cavs go up 1-0.
But in 2018, with the Warriors having slightly easier games in game 6 and 7 against the Rockets, they were fresher. The Cavs had had two 7 game serieses with no "easy games." So, even LeBron's 51 wasn't enough to win game 1 after the JR mistake.
Anyway... where am I going with this?
People overlook how earlier games in the playoffs affect the finals. Had things gone differently earlier on in both 2017 and 2018, LeBron could have either won those years or gotten much closer to winning.
If that had happened, then we'd be thinking that he was genius general manager.
Instead, we think that he made mistakes.
But who really knows? We can't see all possible timelines...
Again, amazing video. Nothing I said was in disagreement with what you said. Just pointing out some additional thoughts.
under rated comment right here ^^^^
Extremely well put and into a perspective most people, including myself, didn't consider. Everyone talks about JR's late game heroics for the Warriors in game 1, but nobody considers the possibility of a tired Warriors team coming off a 7 game series vs Houston.
@@jayyxoo Thank you so much!!!
@@Reedstick Thank you!!! I really appreciate it!
As a Cavs fan I’ve always thought they did a decent job with the team. They may not have gotten him a superstar but they got him good players like Hughes, big z, and mo Williams things just didn’t work out.
Yeah Larry Hughes production just fell so much, unfortunate
Mo Williams was also awful in the playoffs. People say he was an “all star” like that matters in the playoffs
@@WalterFlanagin yeah but the Cavs did what they realistically could with what they had. The only really bad decision they made with lebron was letting boozer go
@@td3214 i mean yeah but that’s all it takes right? Jordan’s front office was either really good or happened to get really lucky, Lebron’s happened to get a little unlucky. Team building is really interesting in that sense bc it’s always such a gamble.
@@td3214 i only bring up Jordan because Lebron wanted help to accumulate rings because he was chasing Jordan
Jamison was an alternative option to Amar'e. LeBron wanted Amar'e but Cavs refused to give up JJ Hickson
"whoooo???"
Exactly^^ Mike didn't acknowledge that lol
I feel like the LeGM stuff is an overreaction and really doesn’t affect LeBron’s legacy. What I do believe is that after LeBron left CLE the way he did, teams became concerned with appeasing his interests and doing what it takes to keep him… and I think the Napier pick made this very apparent to LeBron. And while I believe this stuff is irrelevant to LeBron the player, to be fair, no one is going to call Bill Belichick (an all-time great coach) one of the best GMs in NFL history… cause he just isn’t. Everyone has a weakness. But LeBron is smart, and he knows he can express his opinions, teams will panic to keep him and follow those opinions up with roster decisions, and he can claim he has no hand in it while he moves to another team.
Completely agree I feel like players legacy’s are judged on such a weird metric now a days
He left Miami cuz we all know Jack Napier would d his wife down, and he wasn't for that
I guess every player who has the own account of LeGm is a lie.. lmao the lebron riders man
I think in 2015 the Cavs should have traded Kyrie and picks for Derrick Favors,Ramon Sessions and Rudy Gay, Then would could have had a lineup of
Lebron
Favors
Gay
Love
Sessions
Lmao that is funny my dude good job at that.😂
@@thefuturegamer4563 thank man I actually thought of this joke in 2015 😂
@@thefuturegamer4563 i posted it on Facebook years back an everyone was like “that would never happen, stupid trade, salary cap” but they failed to get the joke i had to explain it to them 😂
@@thefuturegamer4563 it popped up in my “facebook memories” recently, ima start posting it on every Lebron video. Eventually people will see it 😂
If Lebron went to the knicks he would trade away the entire team there as well.
LMAO
And make them relevant again
@@KingJordan355 and when does the NBA present the trophy for relevancy?
bro would bring melo with him
And that's good because the Knicks suck
if bron brought the knicks a ring. new york would love him forever
bro, your vids are great , keep doing what your doing man, don't let anyone tell you what to do man. ❤
Lol
yea he needs to do more research. Those 1st 7 years in Clevland the problem was they were messing things up.
Oh the irony
He speaks solely in absolutes, doesnt state anything that opposes his arguement, over-exxagerates literally everything, picks and chooses his sources and stats that only support his arguements and uses extreme bias towards his arguements..... Everytime I watch his videos, I find myself fact checking and often times theres two sides to every story his makes a video on and so many times theres a story that isnt nearly as controversial or one-sided.
@@Amm17ar FACTS!!!
The only person who is worse is AM hoops, god damn 🤦♂️
Literally the only player the Lakers had to trade regardless of everything this past off season was Kyle Kuzma, I agree with this video, they exaggerated, I like Bron a lot, he's my favorite player of all time but he fucked up big time, he should've left Pelinka alone to do his job, signing Demar, Monk, Melo and Dwight and keeping Caruso (and probably Pope) would've been a better decision
Their defense sucks BIG TIME this season and no one aside from Lebron and Monk ocasionally helps on the offensive end consistently, you know it"@ bad when a rookie called Austin Reaves seems like the only guy that actually wantes to win
If the Lakers signed DeMar with the guys you mentioned it wouldve been over, DeMar was exactly who Lebron wanted. A go to guy who can carry the team on some nights.... Lebron probably had his judgement clouded from when he used to dominate the Rapotrs I guess
@@MikeKorzemba most people do (and some still do)
@@MikeKorzemba Yeah... but still, Lebron should've thought about it
Let's say that Demar drops his intensity in the postseason and his stats show it, the team still has Lebron and AD, the duo we've seen dominate before surrounded by a bunch of great defenders that can also help you on the offensive end (And I have a feeling Reaves and Caruso on the perimeter would've been scary since both of them have a similar playstyle), not to mention, that roster is a lot younger than the one they have now, age is actually a big factor on why the Lakers are doing so bad this season
A roster with LBJ, AD, Demar, Monk, Melo, Dwight, Caruso, Pope, Harrell, Reaves and Nunn would've been amazing, and they still would've had a chance to sign another player since without they wouldn't have to deal with Westbrook's massive contract (Johnson would've still landed on the Lakers and maybe even Rondo)
I think that LBJ is a basketball genious, in terms of making the right play, because he can score and pass with the best of them, he can defend whenever he wants to, he can rebound, but he's not the GOAT. That guy is one Michael Air Jordan. But LBJ is definitely one of the GOATS. And the dude is really smart. I remember when in a press conference. a reporter asked him what happened in the last couple of minutes of a playoff game, and instead of giving a general answer, he gave a very detailed answer about what had happened, in the last couple of minutes. Having said that, great players don't usually become succesful coaches or gms, with the exceptions of Jerry West and possibly Larry Bird (he didn't coach for that long, because he had some health issues, but he still was the coach of the year in 98, and led the Pacers to the NBA finals in 2000. And he did that in only 3 years of coaching (1997-2000).
lebron is by far the goat. played in the most skilled era ever while mj played in the weak expansion era with some players not even be able to dribble with their weak hand, lmaoooo. its not even a contest.
@@huudinii123 the magic and heat were expansion teams but why were they 60 win teams in 1996 and 1997???
@@huudinii123 you haven’t watched basketball for very long have you?
Lebron's been a fantastic GM until the Westbrook trade...
From the very day he went to Miami, I have this feeling that Bron has been and always had been too demanding.
He wants to chase the ghost in Chicago he has to be
KOBE the GOAT!!!
Everybody is Chasing the real GOAT Kareem Abdul jabba.
@@dereckbobbykalla6260 you think so too? I'm glad im not alone
Lebron, stop with the goat race. MJ got to the finish line 20 years ago already 😂
We need to also consider the intangibles of this debate. MJ wouldn’t walk off the court in the rare times his team is getting blown out. It demoralizes the team when you show a quitter attitude in moments like that and LBJ has done that a lot in LA. MJ also busted the asses of his teammates even when they were playing well because he knew that they weren’t going to get over the championship hump unless he did so. If you’re going to assert your will with the front office, then you gotta double assert your will on your teammates at times like this!
i mean the season isnt over if they pull it together and win the chip and he leaves thats more then fair on his part he would have did his job in that sense.
@@terrence5341 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
He built up all his teams, stacked the deck and only has 4 rings (2 highly questionable) to show for it. But he’s somehow the “GOAT”.
You are 💯 % correct 💪
@@terrence5341 28-35
4 rings… 3 different teams. That’s a hell of a GM if you ask me. Most players can't get even 1 ring!
He cant win without buying his team
@@Markuspt.2 No team can buddy, the league is a business.
Hey mike just wanted to say that ive been watching since early 2017 and im so proud of how far you have came u deserve it all brother🙏
You’re a goat of a RUclipsr 🔥🔥🔥🔥been watching you for 5 years straight ❤️💪🏾
MY MAN AB! Thank you!!!! 5 Years is a long ass time I appreciate you a ton for real
@@MikeKorzemba will laced up ever return?
Yes he’s made it clear that Jordan is forever the goat and Kobe is second
Wow, Bro really disrespected Kareem,
How the fuck is Kobe above LeBron, Kareem, Bird, or Russell?
@@MrReverseOreo because Kobe is the closest player to Jordan
@@durRealBills Kareem >LeBron
the 2014 NBA Finals proved that Lebron is nothing but HOT AIR, he is heard in a short youtube vid saying follow my lea, 2016 cavalier won, he hugged the trophy saying he is the reason why they won
Lebron too the suns would be kinda wild tho
The knicks done had every super star photoshoped in their jersey 😂💀😂🤦🏾♂️
No amount of stats is gonna change that anybody that saw both peak Jordan and peak LeBron saw that Jordan was the greater player.
lebron is the best player i’ve ever seen and i watched magic, bird and jordan play
Love your videos man! Always look forward to these uploads
Thanks Neko!
Great video mike keep doing what you doing bro
A really good video as always Mike. I feel like the LeGM thing comes to a few things. 1: At the end of the day, front offices are going to try to make their star players happy. While star players CAN/WILL have influence, at the end of the day it's still the call of the GM. 2. Can we really fault LeBron for all these players either getting injured or playing at embarrassing levels after they join his team? Can we really fault these GM's for not standing up for themselves or holding the ground when they don't agree with LeBron?
I always knew this was going to happend eventually. People liked to penalize Jordan for Wizards years, not willing to wait how will Lebron age. And now we know how. Execlly like Jordan. Stats there, sucess isn't. And turning into grumpy old player that barks at teammates for mistakes while playing no defense and gives up on multiple plays in game.
Same was with Kobe and MJ. Falling for grace for guys with such a sucess is very hard. They can't let it go. They can't admit they no longer can be best players on a team and they won't take backseast to anybody. And that is their downfall.
Difference is Jordan was out for three years enjoying life, and returned when he was 38, a year older than Lebron is now.
It's not an apples for apples comparison. When you're not training day in day out in your mid-late 30s, you can never near that level again if you've been three years out. I don't understand how people don't get that. If Jordan had kept playing up until 99-00, then you could compare.
@@CuriusOdus11 shit Jordan would have most likely had 7-8 rings and quite possibly could have won 4 straight rings in a row lol
Injury was what caused MJs downfall. WAS was 26-20, 4th in East before his injury. That’s after starting 2-9. In his last 20 games up to the injury he averaged
27.5 - 6.4 - 5.2 - 1.3 - 0.5 on 44%
In his last 10 games up to the injury he averaged 29.7 - 6.6 - 6.1 - 1.2 - 0.3 on 47%. They also had the #3 defense. After his season ending injury. WAS went 11-25 after his injury. When rip Hamilton was healthy they went 15-1. If not for his injury it would be interesting to see what that team would do. Just to add, tell me a player that late in their career that would even try to lead a 19 win team?
@@jimmiejohnson8639 Yep, exactly - he was starting to play fantastic in a much poorer team than the Lakers. Imagine MJ at 37 having not taken that 3 year retirement. It’s just not comparable. He played all 82 games at 35, MVP, All Star MVP, Finals MVP, scoring champion and First Team All Defense. Nobody in history has a season like that at 35. He wouldn’t be as dominant at 37 had he not retired, though knowing his work ethic, he wouldn’t be far away.
@@DoubleDash28 I’m convinced he’d have won 4 in a row. 1999 was a shortened season which would have played right in to the Bulls’ hands as would give Pippen time to recover. Ppl talk about the finger injury in Jan 99 but he wouldn’t have been in the Bahamas in a casino so close to start of the season in Feb if he wasn’t retiring.
He’s taking breaks on defence that doesn’t show up on the stat sheet.
it doesnt show up on the stats sheet but we see it and that's why LeBron can't be better than Jordan or Kobe. I cant even imagine either of them just standin there on defense.
@@cjvaye99 kobe's defense is so overrated he always played the passing lanes because he was never on the best offensive player on the opposing team.. Just look at his last championship he wasnt guarding Ray Allen or Pierce he guarded Rondo the weakest one on offense.... In the first 3peat Rick Fox guarded the top player on the other team
@@arizonaFIREent your hilarious if you think rondo was bad. Rondo was the main facilitator for the Celtics, easiest way to shut down a team is by shutting down their best playmaker which disrupts the whole team. He didn’t want rondo to drive and kick. This shows how much you actually know about basketball,
@@cjvaye99 It's official, you've never seen Kobe or Jordan play. Stop listening to Skip and Stephen A tell you lies about Jordan and Kobe. EVERY Legend took plays off!
@@arizonaFIREent it made sense for Kobe to guard Rondo. Rajon was not a good shooter that's true but that doesnt mean he couldnt slice up your team by cutting to the basket and his passing. Kobe guarded him because Fisher was too slow. Rondo would blow by him. Since Ray Allen was mostly a spot up shooter it made sense for the slower Fisher to guard him instead of getting burned by Rondo. as for Pierce yeah it was Ron Artest guarding him that was the whole purpose to bring him there so he could guard bigger stronger perimeter players that Kobe would have trouble with. But anytime they needed to stop an opposing teams elite point guard that was Kobe doing that. Just go watch 2010 series vs the thunder Russell Westbrook was carving up the Lakers until Kobe shut him down.
I like watching your videos 💯
Thanks Paul!!
Mike,
Is this your primary job or is this channel more of a hobby? I was just wondering because it seems like you put a ton of time and effort into your videos to make good content. Keep up the good work!
Little known fact, before Bron and AD went to recruit Russ, they tried to recruit Dame, but Dame told them he wasn’t about joining super teams. Months later Dame one of the most hated players by fans and media cuz he “loyal”. I wholeheartedly believe Bron and Rich Paul influenced media behind the scenes to bash Dame.
AYO WHAT!?? I seen the title and I’m intrigued
Also first
@Mike Korzemba so glad u covered this. One of LeBron's most fascinating assets, attributes, qualities, traits (negatives?) that exists
Thank you Gregory, was a lot of fun to go through the timeline myself!
Mike your making a comeback been watching for years it hit a lull I’m not going to lie but lately you’ve been putting out banger videos love watching youtubers I’ve been w for years still doing it at a high level
LeBron in a Knicks jersey is legendary😁
This is why I'm critical towards him. I respect him as a players but for him to be running to teams an recruiting top superstars tells me he needs top 5 talent to win. Granted I came up in a different era this is the new way to win 🏆
love ur vids. Keep up the great content!
Thanks Ritz!
@@MikeKorzemba np
LeBrons influence alone is so strong. Feel like sometimes teams try and please Bron a bit to much. I do not think Bron has total say over all these trades/drafts.
LBJ isn't playing NO DEFENSE AT ALL but if he wants to get 1 LEGENDARY 🏆 he should go to Knicks 1 with them is worth 3
Knicks ain’t winning nothing
Spartan Realah Lebron could never handle playing in NYC
Don’t forget he traded kuzma,lonzo, randle,hart, and Brandon Ingram…
Im gonna say it right now. Lebron will trade bronny away because he'll be disappointed with him 😂
My main man Mike Korzemba with another great video 🔥🐐
Bron is already the goat of career turnovers. Getting booed at home by his fans sealed the deal.
😂😂
For Joe Johnson "teams won't bid cuz suns will match any offer" lmao right....
I noticed that too hahahaha glad you did. I just didn't bring it up because hindsight is 20/20 there but hilarious to read looking back
@@MikeKorzemba of course bro. What's good Mike? Been following for years!
you guys always forgot the real GOAT, Brian Scalabrine
Thats facts
Here after that 56 piece dinner lol
Here’s the deciding stat for those that don’t like the Jordan 6-0 finals argument….
Number of playoff games scoring 50+ points
Jordan- 8
Lebron- 1
Kobe- 1
When I use to play GM on Madden and ESPN NFL 2k5 as a kid I never understood how to find a talented player in the draft. I would just trade picks to grt established guys in the league or trade picks to get rookies and young guys with talent. It's smarter because you know what they can do in the league not hoping they do as good in the league.
Lebron brought rings to all the teams he’s been on he 100% DESERVED to say what moves the organization should do
Yea and that's working out so well for the Lakers rn hasn't it
@@johnsach4156 Good observation captain hindsight lmao
@@johnsach4156 Did he not win them a ring as well?
Lebron holds some responsibility, but how is Rob in a big position and the player is making the decision, that's ridiculous and Rob was right Buddy was a better fit
At the end of the day LeBron doesn’t call the other teams gm. That’s up to the gm to take LeBrons word for it.
Yea he may not make the call, but he’s definitely 100% signing off on every move the Cavs and Lakers have made. He wasn’t LeGM in Miami and his first stint in Cleveland. Ever since he came back to the Cavs? He has been LeGM
Well you kinda have to listen to your superstar, or else he’s gonna ruin your team🥴
So…those were your Lebron/carmelHo impersonation, huh? Lmao
Michael Jordan is forever the GOAT
great vid Mike🤝🤝🤝
I mean, from this point, you could say that DeMar would have been a better option, but if he played with LeBron he wouldn't have this type of season (I am not a Westbrook fan by any means, just saying that every league star who played with LeBron played worse than before they teamed up).
"And the Lakers *did* win a Championship together."
ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Yeah, technically. And technically Barry Bonds is the Home Run king. That doesn't mean anyone recognizes him as such.
In my eyes Lebron still hasn't passed Kobe.
@Vaibhav Satheesh Kobe beat more competition with less help. Lebron was given the keys while Kobe had to work with them. Kobe is the better scorer, and the better defender. Lebron only has playmaking over Kobe. I can go into more depth but that's all I gotta say now.
@@Ichifate lebron averages more points than kobe for a career and he shoots 51% from the field while also shooting better from 3 and around the rim...and Kobe beat more comp with less help? R u serious?😂😂he had shaq for the first 8 years of his career and shaq averaged 34 points across those 3 finals and Kobe wasn’t even the best player on that team...plus his finals comp in those finals aren’t anywhere close to lebron...the only team Kobe faced in the finals that is even comparable is the Celtics...and even then they aren’t better than the dynasty spurs, the 73-9 warriors or the KD warriors...there is literally no argument u can make for Kobe being better than lebron, he outclasses him in career stats, advanced stats, accolades, and all time stats😂😂😂😂
Kyrie wanted out cause after 2 years he finally figured out where all those CP3 for Kyrie trade rumors kept coming from. That's why his last year in CLE was so awkward....then the Bledsoe/PG rumors sent him over the edge.
KD told the truth.....and he was just scratching the surface.
#DudeWasNeverCloseToGOAT
westbrook = overhated
I feel like Bron’s choices with the cavs the second time would have been a lot better if a) warriors and KD didn’t do something crazy (ironically only possible post lebron player mobility) and b) kyrie knew his role
Who’s here for when he dropped 56 😂😂😂
"i dont push buttons", yeahh you dont but you tell someone to do it for you 😂
You know why I know Lebron isn't the GOAT? Because we're even having that debate. Back in the day, in MJ's prime, there was no debate. We KNEW he was the GOAT.
this comment is painfully dumb
The media been pushing Lebron for the last six years and he great but he not MJ. I heard the cheers for the All-star weekend and it seems louder for MJ
You clearly weren't alive in the 90s. There are older individuals who will still tell you Kareem is the best.
A lot of speculation in this video saying he been running teams for years. Camelo is like Bro friend so they got jokes....also good move. Westbrook though ultimately is a bad fit. But everyone admits Westbrook is a weapon so of course you look at it and go I would love that guy on my team. Also weak GMs are still to blame. One thing is PROVEN, Born doesn't throw away games. A lot of people have ruled lakers out but the man is still breaking records. The Gm and coaches should have done the trades for the right fit. Also the "Running it back" line is false. They some what ran it back after the 2020 finals and lost.
The real goat is Mike Korzemba 💯
Nah you are
But why is it always the Knicks every time a star is in free agency all the Knicks fans are like he is coming here we're getting a title and all they get is like Julius Randle. They're totally cursed. But for real Knicks Bron and Cavs Bron would be cool.
Not the NBA GOAT
But still young enough to Transition and become the greatest female basketball player of all time and save the WNBA
Great video
I think lebron has always been stat chasing. This whole thing with bronny is cool and all but he just wants that accolade but he’s setting himself up to do have one last first before he retires.
I don’t see why anyone would think Lebron is the GOAT. You think Jordan would just quit his team after several playoff failures? If Jordan take a pay cut to join Lakers or Celtics like Lebron did Jordan would have won 10 titles
If you jumping ship whenever your team starts going bad you don’t deserve to be named the GOAT because GOAT won’t fucking quit his team like Lebron did
Lebron and Mike got one thing in common...they are both the GOAT
yeah and Zo's injured rn so is Caruso, the real questionable thing rn is just the WB trade and maybe not trading for lowry
Dude, it's not even close, Jordan is THE Goat. Lebron's hunger for reaching the 6th ring has made him desperate and therefore has greatly damaged his chances at winning the 6th, let alone pass MJ.
Yeah. I wasn’t around for MJ so maybe my perspective is skewed, but after he got his first ring, all the other ones seemed so effortless. Like Ik it was still hard to win, but it didn’t take tons of front office moves, or changing teams, or playoff-less seasons, or getting swept in the finals. Im it’s not all Brons fault, but seeing him struggle to get from 1 ring to 4 rings, and the struggle since the last ring, is really not putting him in the best light in the GOAT debate. Right now all he really has is longevity, and finals “appearances” which nobody considers an accolade anyway until it comes to LeBron going to 10 straight.
Casuals, haters, ppl who believe every report from anonymous sources blaming LeBron for this disaster are pure comedy to me. Pelinka & FO simply gutted a 2019-20🏆 team move (or non move) after move with cheap/dumb AF FO & ownership. Peep the last 17 months since Oct2020🏆 (not even counting Lakers MORONICALLY not giving LeBron’s coach Ty Lue the 💰/years he deserved or else he’s the coach even though Vogel does get way too much hate by this fan base when the front office is clearly the main issue as Vogel 1 of 10 coaches EVER to take 2 diff teams to conference finals or farther including 2 straight with my young AF Pacers who started Lance & Hibbert, taking Heatles 6/7/6 in 3 straight playoffs ECSF/ECF/ECF 2012-2014):
*Let McGhee walk for nothing (for old AF Marc Gasol)
*Let Rondo walk twice for nothin (yes he’s old but he’s basically another coach on the bench and in film room that helps everyone + playoff rondo is real!)
*Let Caruso Walk for nothing
*Not trading for Lowry at 2021 trade deadline bc THT
*overpaying THT who should of been gone for Lowry
*Not giving DeRozan the 3rd year he wanted or else he’d be a Laker and Westbrook wouldn’t (same with Lowry!)
*Agreeing to yr14 Westbrook🚮fit🚮contract trade
So Lakers had the power to say “Nope we aren’t hiring the coach you want Ty Lue LeBron”, “Nope we aren’t bringing Caruso back like you want” (luxury tax cheap AF and overpaying THT who should be gone for Lowry and LeBron always prefers vets), “Nope we aren’t giving DeRozan 3rd year to give you 3rd all star level player who is a good fit” “Nope we aren’t bringing McGhee back who is a great lob threat for you and solid interior defender” “Nope we’re gonna let rondo walk twice”, but they can’t say “Nope you and AD’s Westbrook idea is a bad idea?!?!!” Make it make sense! Of course they could of and should of said no to that! For ppl to ignore all that is lunacy!
The fact so many casuals, LeBron haters, Kobe Stan’s (do they defense Pelinka bc Kobe’s best friend?) all blame Vogel/LeBron/Russ and not Pelinka/FO/Ownership is just 😂to me! AD shooting and inconsistency in heart of his prime is something to blame also! He’s the one great player actually in his prime!
Also LeBron’s Cavs FO/GM from 99-02 before he got there and his first 7 years were an absolute DUMPSTER 🔥! He had no one close to all nba level talent in his first 7 years like most other GOAT.
“The Cavs made a HUGE splash in FA with Larry Hughes” “The Cavs FO did their best” 🤣🤣🤣. Name one good draft pick they made in 7 years! Moe Williams is a career 13 ppg and Wallace/Shaq were old AF!
The same Larry Hughes who in first 7 seasons averaged 15 ppg 5, 3 on BAD 41.5 FG% & 🚮27 3P% while -994 AKA he didn’t lead to winning at ALL (lost 60% of games he played almost 100 games under .500).
www.statmuse.com/nba/ask?q=larry+hughes+record+1998-99+to+2004-05
LeBron hate is a disease. How TF is it his fault he didn’t have a HOF amazing GM like MJ Pippen Kobe Shaq Duncan Kareem Magic Bird Isiah Russell Wade etc?!?! LeBron played with ONE great GM in his career (Pat Riley) period. Actual GMs/FO make the final call PERIOD! Always have always will regardless of narratives haters try and say. If a GM is dumb enough to do exactly what any player says they’re a horrid GM!
Also how did this cripple Cavs when they had four first round picks since he left and finally started to draft well with
Sexton
Okoro
Garland
Mobley
Also this conveniently leaves out that Cavs had Paul George for Kyrie but my Pacers backed out last second.
best player to ever pick up a basketball no debate
That would be Michael Jordan by a mile
@@linorestrepolobo3620 old head take, stop living in the past. lebron’s era is far more competitive, skilled and all around better at the game of basketball than jordan’s era. you jordan stans seem to forget about evolution. but deep down we all know who the goat is 😆👑
@@hoodiegriffo How is it more competitive when he made 8 straight finals?
@@hoodiegriffo the only evolution I see is in peds and lack of defense. Dream on kid
LBJ is planning on going to the nets to become the nets super super team
LBJ is the perfect definition of 'Doomed if you do, doomed if you dont'
Not really. It's just that if you mess up people are allowed to criticize you. It's really this simple.
@@ghsf1234 right! Also Daniel Tan logic makes no sense when you're consistently getting to finals and attaining rings throughout one's career. If doomed means bringing a city a ring, I'm pretty sure everyone would love to be doomed by Lebron given that he has won a chip for every franchise he has played for. Pretty sure that's the goal, by any means necessary.
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Y'all really talking like Buddy Hield is the missing piece to a championship. 🤣 Malik Monk is playing better than Hield this season....
not agreeing with your point, but even if he's "LeGM" He still did better than the majority of the GMs in the NBA
That’s a testament to how great of a player he is not Gm. If he stayed with the heat and let Pat Riley and Spoelstra do their job he’d def had more rings.
No I want no parts of Lebron James🙅🏽♂️....sincerely.....long time Knicks fan.
ok buddy we believe you.
I love Jordan, but if Bron brings a chip to NYC, he will be the GOAT hands down.
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man dont play defense
Love this video 📸 💕
Thanks Ena!!
He's not deciding to GOAT race. He is the GOAT.
this was a video i didn't realize how much i needed this video today, nicely done. also loved the line of "i may have been born at night, but not last night" LOL
hahaha thank you Raman!
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It's known that Bron wanted Caruso to stay so I don't know how many buttons he can be pushing after the bubble ...
This was a good vid no cappa 👏🏾💯