@@drfix-lp4ve Bill is 12d consistently more but high hyper outer can be used for highball Asriel's scale really varries, he's 5d, but I can get him to 6d/complex multi/high hyper/low outer, but for now I'm sticking with 5d as I'm still discussing many higher args to know which is usable and which isn't.
I like how when i scroll down i see some people mentioning how bill got outsmarted by "kids" yet it wasnt dipper and mabels plan to erase bill it was stan and fords people gotta really rewatch the series
Damn this video is becoming heated 💀 I didn't expect this Once you give UT a win the comments call you crazy, once you give UT a loss the comments call you crazy too, real.
What kind of coinvidence in this? I was discussing this matchup multiple times with people lol. Anyway, I find this a draw fight tbh. Like yeah Bill outscales but outscaling isn't the only winner determining. I mean you said Bill beats Disc which isn't true, niether can outhax the other there as well.
@@Arrowokeys12 bill massively outscaled as well as has way more hax and way better hax at that if anything it’s most certainly a negative diff, asriel cannot counter bills hax like conceptual manipulation, and asriel cannot even hurt let alone harm bill mostly due to the outscaling but also bills high godly regen
@@FirePugthe2nd Bill does not have conceptual manipulation, time baby never was stated he was a concept. Asriel breaking the reset button can be argued to be conceptual, but I don't fully buy that, niether do I buy Bill having conceptual manipulation, so to me it's a draw. Also again I said I know Bill outscales already lol.
Lıterally asriel has infinite defence so bill can't attack him, bill has no infinite defence he literally losed his eye againts a giant robot so Bill can't damage asriel but asriel can, even if this war takes thousands of year asriel will win at end.
Okay. Lets see Asriel cant be hit He can save and load If he gets hit somehow, it'll take time for him to become dust, which he can use to load So, draw at best.
@@FirePugthe2nd I think this doesn't change the fact that he was defeated by some kids and an old man, Asriel was only defeated (he wasn't) because he let him.
@@megaap1411 he was only defeated because he got tunnel visioned and needed information from Stanford if that wasn’t the case he would of dusted everyone instantly.
@@FirePugthe2nd But if he was defeated because he was erased inside Stan's memories, Asriel would easily erase him because he showed the ability to alter the memories of others, when he made the monsters forget about frisk.
Asriel takes this no diff,he has infinite stats,can save and load,immortall,cannot be erased,can also make the game crash,won't be affected if you change the game file
@@Nini-se5lq asriel immune to stats manip,you can't even change asriel's level in the game file,even if you change his health to zero,his def to -9999,it won't affect him in the game
@@FirePugthe2ndAsriel is a literal god of hyper death and bill, I don't remember the show, but he's basically an entity just like a god of hyper death, they both can't die, so it's kinda obvious it's a draw
@@Coolskeleton95649 There are numerous ways on Bill Cipher just Incapacitating Asriel. Turning him to stone for example, Shuffling his face as a way to disorientate him, interact with spirits and souls and even manipulating Asriel's Matter. Likewise, Bill has been able to know lots of things and has incredible precognition and acausality, living in a state of quantum uncertainty and views an infinite kaleidoscope, which is extremely useful against the True reset Asriel possibly possesses. And when it comes to characters personalities, Asriel tends to hold back, even after an immensely determined frisk who could reset the entire UT Timeline and underestimates Frisk. Unlike Bill who's underestimation only comes from that of humans. Against other deities like Time Baby, he immediately went for the kill, so it's more than likely that Bill is gonna get the opportunity to land a killing blow.
It’s a stalemate Neither can realistically hurt each other Asriel has infinite attack and defense And bill is able to heal himself and his spirit without much trouble While bill has a massive edge in experience, it doesn’t matter when their both parallel is potential. I can’t say who’s for sure faster since in the show bill got his eye taken out and sprayed in the face with spray paint, but that could just be the shows main character plot armor while Asriel isn’t able to be touched at All in battle. However speed is irrelevant if you can’t exactly damage each other. Checkout animation rewind as he gave a better picture He gave the win to Asriel since he states “What would most likely happen first” Asriel thinking about erasing someone’s mind with bill in it Or bill suddenly become pure hearted and changing Asriel’s ways….?” We both know one of those options is almost entirely impossible while Asriel has mentioned “All your friends memories, I’d reset them back to zero”
@@Bloodmoon-3bc They both cannot really kill the other from what I see in their arsenal. And most of their stats are equal. Although, I prefer Asriel over Bill by a longshot but both are still goats and I don't see either losing.
Nah bill massively outscales and is stated to threaten the gravity falls multiverse as well as transcend the gravity falls verse, asriel stands no chance at all
Its asriel he can reset the game his stats are infinte he absorbed 6 human souls and all the souls in the underground there is a 0% chance bill can win
Nah stop the cap bro. Asriel is a God who had infinite stats and beyond infinite power. He just got too emotional. Bill cipher get beaten by a bunch of kids, an old man and a blue fire. If you think Asriel would be emotional in this battle, nah bro. Asriel wins low-mid diff
Guys 11-12D creatures were terrified of bill cipher I only see little chance of asriel winning this. Also bill could just destroy the souls inside asriels body. Bill is more violent giving him the upper hand, and Bill cipher can do anything. If Bill Cipher says his real name asriel would die in a second. Bill solo low-mid diff.
@@VladislavPla:/ Bill cipher is multi dimensional Bill cipher one shotted time baby which is a time devouring giant that can take over universes and also control the timeline Statement from the creator saying bill is above the gravityFalls Infinite multiverse Bill cipher can easily travel to another galaxy Stated by alex hirsch that bill stood taller than the multiverse He is also an Omniscience Bill cound easily beat being that exist in 7-11 dimensions at once Nightmare realm is above the gravity falls multiverses . Each dimension of the gravity falls is a type 3 multiverse with 11 spatial dimensions .There are an Infinite number of such multiverse. Inside nightmare realm , bill has his true form, where he is free os time , space and other concepts . Nightmare realm is an extradimensional structure . The nightmare realm contains with itsself a number of space exeeding classical innfinite ( aleph-0 ) . The nightmare realm is unlimited in size.the nightmare realm is above the concept of time , space , all term of quantinum physics , containning within itsself a number of space greater than infinity , within where are Infinite numbers of universe and own concepts of time contained . Nightmare realm bill cipher is outerversal with irrelevant speed
Stop the war in the comments smh
Me and pug agree its a stalemate now
statement but he’s outer
idk about asriel
@@drfix-lp4ve Bill is 12d consistently more but high hyper outer can be used for highball
Asriel's scale really varries, he's 5d, but I can get him to 6d/complex multi/high hyper/low outer, but for now I'm sticking with 5d as I'm still discussing many higher args to know which is usable and which isn't.
@@Arrowokeys12 to be fair you said it yourself outer but anyhow i forgot the lore of undertale i was a big fan but not anymore
@@drfix-lp4ve i thought we agreed comp is arguably outer?
I can tell u more of asriel on cord
@@Arrowokeys12 yeah we did
The only way Asriel would lose is probably Bill Cipher manipulating his feelings.
I think there's just a bigger chance Asriel can trap bill in someone's mind and erase it then bill having a pure soul.
That boy aerial gonna make bill a good guy…yeah that checks out
Amazing edit
I like how when i scroll down i see some people mentioning how bill got outsmarted by "kids" yet it wasnt dipper and mabels plan to erase bill it was stan and fords people gotta really rewatch the series
@@Smozuki facts.
Bill got outsmarted by a scammer and a adult DND fan
@@Konrad-vg5bi aright there
W edit
A high universal triangle vs high multiversal GOAT
Negg diff to our goat
@@lucassampaio2179 bill is WAY past high universal buddy.
Damn this video is becoming heated 💀
I didn't expect this
Once you give UT a win the comments call you crazy, once you give UT a loss the comments call you crazy too, real.
It's because Asriel Dreemurr has no limits is confirmed by Toby Fox
@_SaveTheWorld_63no limits doesn't mean you are Boundless.Bill and many characters has no limits as well,even King Multiverse slams Asriel.
@@FakerTheXenoKing Multiverse is not canon lol
@@FakerTheXenoHe is a sans with different clothes that has the same powers as sans and has 1 HP and 1 defense and 1 atk in the world of undertale
@@FakerTheXenoAll sans aus are simply sans with recolor and different clothes that in the world of undertale have 1 HP 1 defense and 1 atk
What kind of coinvidence in this? I was discussing this matchup multiple times with people lol.
Anyway, I find this a draw fight tbh.
Like yeah Bill outscales but outscaling isn't the only winner determining.
I mean you said Bill beats Disc which isn't true, niether can outhax the other there as well.
Bill def outhaxes asriel
@@FirePugthe2nd Can you elaborate?
Also if someone can even outhax the other I'd say it's a much more of a diff than negative imo.
@@Arrowokeys12 bill massively outscaled as well as has way more hax and way better hax at that if anything it’s most certainly a negative diff, asriel cannot counter bills hax like conceptual manipulation, and asriel cannot even hurt let alone harm bill mostly due to the outscaling but also bills high godly regen
@@FirePugthe2nd Bill does not have conceptual manipulation, time baby never was stated he was a concept.
Asriel breaking the reset button can be argued to be conceptual, but I don't fully buy that, niether do I buy Bill having conceptual manipulation, so to me it's a draw.
Also again I said I know Bill outscales already lol.
Bill cipher vs scott cawthon(who will win)
Bruh that’s overkill
Good
Lıterally asriel has infinite defence so bill can't attack him, bill has no infinite defence he literally losed his eye againts a giant robot so Bill can't damage asriel but asriel can, even if this war takes thousands of year asriel will win at end.
Bill blinks and that fodder is gone and he’s whole verse
@@Mythical-o3z W-
Sadly not true, from what I know it’s a stalemate 😞
@@FirePugthe2nd I can get Bill to Low outer
@@Mythical-o3z stats don’t negate hax
@@Mythical-o3zbro Bill is low hyper/high hyper
@@ApieceOfChocolateno bill mid outer or HIDH-outerversal
Okay. Lets see
Asriel cant be hit
He can save and load
If he gets hit somehow, it'll take time for him to become dust, which he can use to load
So, draw at best.
Bro azzy is is litteral GOD,
Bill loses this at LEAST mid diff for azzy if not easier
Asriel is such WBW Anakin victim lol
Bill IS also a God keep yapping
@@pedr2061 *Asriel Dreemur ♾️ ATK ♾️ DEF
*The absolute God of Hyperdeath!
Did you underestimated what infinity can do?
@@Sunny67493 so what?,Bill can infinitely grow stronger by minute due to weirdmageddon.
@@pedr2061 Yes, but, even if Bill starts at the strength of, let just say "9000000000" is still impossible for him to get to infinite.
Asriel dreemurr is a god they cannot be killed but bill cypher got killed by blue fire so Asriel would actually win
Bill transcends his verse, he never died to begin with btw he’s still alive and it’s been confirmed/implied throughout multiple pieces of media
@@FirePugthe2nd I think this doesn't change the fact that he was defeated by some kids and an old man, Asriel was only defeated (he wasn't) because he let him.
@@megaap1411 he was only defeated because he got tunnel visioned and needed information from Stanford if that wasn’t the case he would of dusted everyone instantly.
@@FirePugthe2nd But if he was defeated because he was erased inside Stan's memories, Asriel would easily erase him because he showed the ability to alter the memories of others, when he made the monsters forget about frisk.
@@megaap1411 like I said bill never actually died.
Asriel takes this no diff,he has infinite stats,can save and load,immortall,cannot be erased,can also make the game crash,won't be affected if you change the game file
Fr Asriel takes this shit Bill Stands little chance
Bill has higher dimensionality.
@@Inkrack doesn't change the fact that asriel wins,best bill can do is a stalemate
bill can do almost everything he could just make asriel stop moving and make hes stat, lvl and others to 0
@@Nini-se5lq asriel immune to stats manip,you can't even change asriel's level in the game file,even if you change his health to zero,his def to -9999,it won't affect him in the game
Both are unkillable without a special power that neither of them have. Draw
Bill has conceptual manip and also there’s nothing stopping him from oneshotting Asriel with the ridiculous attack potency difference
@@FirePugthe2ndAsriel is a literal god of hyper death and bill, I don't remember the show, but he's basically an entity just like a god of hyper death, they both can't die, so it's kinda obvious it's a draw
@@Coolskeleton95649 There are numerous ways on Bill Cipher just Incapacitating Asriel. Turning him to stone for example, Shuffling his face as a way to disorientate him, interact with spirits and souls and even manipulating Asriel's Matter. Likewise, Bill has been able to know lots of things and has incredible precognition and acausality, living in a state of quantum uncertainty and views an infinite kaleidoscope, which is extremely useful against the True reset Asriel possibly possesses.
And when it comes to characters personalities, Asriel tends to hold back, even after an immensely determined frisk who could reset the entire UT Timeline and underestimates Frisk. Unlike Bill who's underestimation only comes from that of humans. Against other deities like Time Baby, he immediately went for the kill, so it's more than likely that Bill is gonna get the opportunity to land a killing blow.
@@Coolskeleton95649 bill transcends his verse
@FirePugEditz-fv3vb I literally explained how that's wrong in cord.
Did you throw my words out of the window?
Bill cipher almost took the entire universe guys
Asriel's attack and HP is infinity though? I think they wouldn't kill eachother they'd just chill lol.
Yes but that would only scale to high universal
Do flowey vs bill (in terms of evilness)
Bill easily solos
Didn’t bill cipher get beaten by a group of kids? Also if you say Asriel also did, frisk can literally just come back from the dead.
Bill didn’t get beaten by kids he got outsmarted by a really smart scientist because he got tunnel visioned
Bill cipher vs scott cawthon(who will win)
What asriel form you talk about? True pacefist form? Normal form? Omega form? Flower Form? Child Form?
true pacifist you can see god of hyper death asriel at the bottom aka true pacifist asriel
W edit W take
Durability would go to asriel cause he got infinity health if that makes sense 😅 or it's both
@@Mickey_mouse_hahaha that’s Lowkey weaker than a weakened bill.
Link to Bill and Alex Hirsch's animation?
The latest film theory episode on gravity falls
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It’s a stalemate
Neither can realistically hurt each other
Asriel has infinite attack and defense
And bill is able to heal himself and his spirit without much trouble
While bill has a massive edge in experience, it doesn’t matter when their both parallel is potential.
I can’t say who’s for sure faster since in the show bill got his eye taken out and sprayed in the face with spray paint, but that could just be the shows main character plot armor
while Asriel isn’t able to be touched at All in battle. However speed is irrelevant if you can’t exactly damage each other.
Checkout animation rewind as he gave a better picture
He gave the win to Asriel since he states
“What would most likely happen first”
Asriel thinking about erasing someone’s mind with bill in it
Or bill suddenly become pure hearted and changing Asriel’s ways….?”
We both know one of those options is almost entirely impossible while Asriel has mentioned
“All your friends memories, I’d reset them back to zero”
Mfw when yukari mogs both: 🤯
@@Arrowokeys12so true bestie
@@stephenbeatty9856 all are dimentio victims
Yukari Gets Negged By Bill Learn how to scale Bill = High complex multi Yukari = Low complex multi
@@BludBludMan atleast you didn’t say the touhou is universal at best. But now that I think about it they’re both equal 🐿️
@@BludBludMan bill is a bit higher ngl
Bill cipher fans be like:
When are we debating again because you left the topic open last time 👻
Azriel was underestimated
I Prefer Asriel Win
W Edit
But Bill loses
I shall win
Nah i'd win
I Like Asriel Better Than Bill cipher
Cap its a tie but w edit
Game theory. Lee???
Indeed
Asriel wins! He can literally earse every timeline, this bill cypher is from
Nah, imo a draw fight.
@@Arrowokeys12 ???
@@Bloodmoon-3bc They both cannot really kill the other from what I see in their arsenal.
And most of their stats are equal.
Although, I prefer Asriel over Bill by a longshot but both are still goats and I don't see either losing.
@@Arrowokeys12 fair enough
Nah bill massively outscales and is stated to threaten the gravity falls multiverse as well as transcend the gravity falls verse, asriel stands no chance at all
Fr
Its asriel he can reset the game his stats are infinte he absorbed 6 human souls and all the souls in the underground there is a 0% chance bill can win
That’s only high universal my dude
Bill slams.
Bill C absolutely negs.
Both solo midtama
Had to to delete my last comment
Nah stop the cap bro.
Asriel is a God who had infinite stats and beyond infinite power.
He just got too emotional.
Bill cipher get beaten by a bunch of kids, an old man and a blue fire.
If you think Asriel would be emotional in this battle, nah bro.
Asriel wins low-mid diff
cool you just described high universal scaling, bill with a lowball is higher than that, GG bill negs the verse
@@FirePugthe2nd Asriel is 3 layers into boundless.
Omega Flowey is enough to lick Bill.
@@markamiellaguartilla7513 hop on cord we can run that
@@FirePugthe2ndHow about you run it with me instead if you are willing to run it again smhhhh
I still see it as a stalemate
@@Arrowokeys12 when I feel like it
Asriel Scales Above the Dorito Man (Flumpty Victim)
As your special buddy, I despise this video 😡😡😡
Asriel >> the presence > toaa >>>>>> bill
You are undertale fanboy
Wha
No, not at all, base Superman is enough for comp undertale.
Asriel 2 phase > Bill Cipher > Asriel 1 phase
Asriel takes all
nah
Bro Asriel is my favourite character and even I know that's false lol
Wtf
Guys 11-12D creatures were terrified of bill cipher I only see little chance of asriel winning this.
Also bill could just destroy the souls inside asriels body. Bill is more violent giving him the upper hand, and Bill cipher can do anything. If Bill Cipher says his real name asriel would die in a second.
Bill solo low-mid diff.
@@danny-om4wi Actually no, the fight goes either way.
-Hmmmm...a little outdated-
Hmmmm shuuush
@@FirePugthe2nd real
Bro Asriel dreemur solos bill
@@VladislavPla 🫠
What
@@VladislavPla:/
Bill cipher is multi dimensional
Bill cipher one shotted time baby which is a time devouring giant that can take over universes and also control the timeline
Statement from the creator saying bill is above the gravityFalls Infinite multiverse
Bill cipher can easily travel to another galaxy
Stated by alex hirsch that bill stood taller than the multiverse
He is also an Omniscience
Bill cound easily beat being that exist in 7-11 dimensions at once
Nightmare realm is above the gravity falls multiverses . Each dimension of the gravity falls is a type 3 multiverse with 11 spatial dimensions .There are an Infinite number of such multiverse. Inside nightmare realm , bill has his true form, where he is free os time , space and other concepts . Nightmare realm is an extradimensional structure . The nightmare realm contains with itsself a number of space exeeding classical innfinite ( aleph-0 ) . The nightmare realm is unlimited in size.the nightmare realm is above the concept of time , space , all term of quantinum physics , containning within itsself a number of space greater than infinity , within where are Infinite numbers of universe and own concepts of time contained . Nightmare realm bill cipher is outerversal with irrelevant speed
When i saw the pfp,i knew what was gonna happen
L edit + cap video
great
another uttp dud
u know what
ima give you a hint
ima troll y'all
Bill negs the verse 🤷♂️
@@FirePugthe2nd idk man
asriel is still very strong
@@ExsaviourthefurryguyAsriel is such WBW Anakin victim lol
Lol absolute cap
Fax*
@@FirePugthe2nd hmm idk about that
@@FirePugthe2ndYou wanna run that again 👁👁
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