Statins and muscle pain: 6 TIPS to STOP PAIN 😃 !

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  • @ThinkYourHealth
    @ThinkYourHealth  2 года назад +15

    I do read the comments and dare I say a lot of you voiced their displeasure about the muscic in the background.I do listen to feedback.It is quite difficult to remove music once uploaded, but here is the same content I did without music. Check it out😀
    ruclips.net/video/Cvr2_jxXtao/видео.html

    • @deniselanglois6193
      @deniselanglois6193 2 года назад +2

      I agree the music is very very distracting

    • @booreed7813
      @booreed7813 8 месяцев назад

      Cannot concentrate with awful back ground noise! WHY is this necessary?

    • @ThinkYourHealth
      @ThinkYourHealth  8 месяцев назад +1

      @@booreed7813 Appreciate your feedback.If you are still interested you can check this link without the musical distraction: ruclips.net/video/Cvr2_jxXtao/видео.html

    • @Call_Me_Troy
      @Call_Me_Troy 4 месяца назад

      What about statins and Achilles tendon pain???

  • @rosea2350
    @rosea2350 Год назад +30

    I was prescribed statins at 27 for my slightly high cholesterol. I literally couldn’t walk from them. I told my doctor I will never take them again and he said I will have a heart attack or stroke. It’s been 2 years and even after a pregnancy which increased my cholesterol even more I haven’t had any heart problems. 😂

    • @singlee2998
      @singlee2998 Год назад +1

      Take fish oil supplement to help lower your risk of heart. Attack. I was not able to move my legs and with severe right shoulder pain which like my arm got chopped off 😂. I end up stopping taking statin and replacing it with big dose of fish oil. I ended up able to stand up still without feeling of falling in about 1 week

    • @cavitycreep
      @cavitycreep 10 месяцев назад +2

      Doctors dont know shit

    • @teddyp5220
      @teddyp5220 9 месяцев назад +1

      OMG, I was told the same thing and I got off my statins 8 days ago. I literally have trouble walking or just getting up from a chair....now....please, what did you take, it's getting a little better,

    • @singlee2998
      @singlee2998 9 месяцев назад

      @@teddyp5220 take fish oil with COQ 10 ! I took 2 pills of each Alaska fish oil and COQ 10 from Costco

  • @saratkumar2484
    @saratkumar2484 3 года назад +30

    Doctor, you are super. Your slow n clear talk will benefit millions. I am 80 n a stroke patient. My doctor prescribed Atorvastaatin 20 mg. After taking it for a year I found body pains n shortage of bile. As a pharmacist I was able to identify the source as the statin. I stopped using n my body aches disappeared. In about a year bile normalised. And today I am hundred percent better. No statins for me.🙏🙏🙏

    • @samianasir5871
      @samianasir5871 Год назад

      My mother started 5 days ago and she is 59 and facing severe muscle aches unable to pick things or walk properly, what should she now ?? Her ldl is 192 total cholesteol is 292

    • @wandacaddell5013
      @wandacaddell5013 Год назад

      I take 80mg of statins I feel like I can’t move due to tiredness and muscle weakness… I had a TiA stoke about 6 month ago. My doctor says my LDL is low. Do you think she should lower the dosage. I don’t want to stop because I don’t want to have another one.

  • @edwaggoner7403
    @edwaggoner7403 3 года назад +29

    I have been on astorvastatin for years for borderline cholesterol.
    I was having aches and pains along with stiffness. I had been considering reducing or stopping the drug. Then my neighbor also on astorvastatin developed muscle weakness where she could hardly walk and fell backwards down her stairs while headed to bead at night.
    She was diagnosed with necrotizing meyosititus (sp). Now she receives an IV for four hours two consecutive days once a month for the last six months. The dr. said was caused by the statin.
    I subsequently talked with my GP and stopped my statin drug.
    BTW i am 72 and recently had a physical including echocardiogram and cardio stress test. Passed all with no narrowing of any blood vessels.

  • @superchick4994
    @superchick4994 Год назад +6

    I’d had knee surgery back in March. I had been taking a statin. I had severe swelling. Nothing worked to relieve me. Not even Tylenol, muscle rubs and messages. A few days ago, I stopped taking the statin and lo and behold I am not swelling and in pain. I knew it. I’m watching what I eat and switched over to eating vegetables and bitter foods. This is of my own doing. I’m tired of being sick.

  • @peteypickles3262
    @peteypickles3262 3 года назад +46

    So many people on statins - everyone should know this when they start them. You are a blessing, Dr. Thurairajah. Thanks for helping us understand!

    • @ThinkYourHealth
      @ThinkYourHealth  3 года назад +8

      My pleasure! Glad it was helpful and thank you very much!!

    • @Call_Me_Troy
      @Call_Me_Troy 4 месяца назад

      ​@@ThinkYourHealth~ What about statins and Achilles tendon pain???

  • @AskAwayHealth
    @AskAwayHealth 4 года назад +46

    Muscle pain is such a common complaint from many people on a statin - you gave a very clear explanation - thank you!

    • @ThinkYourHealth
      @ThinkYourHealth  4 года назад +4

      Thanks for your feedback, really appreciate this.

    • @justtracy7175
      @justtracy7175 3 года назад +1

      @@ThinkYourHealth
      Great information and content 👍🏾I’ve been taking statin since 2018 i didn’t experience the muscle pain then but now believe it or not I’ve been experiencing muscle pain for a year. It is debilitating. I will talk to my doc about this.

    • @singlee2998
      @singlee2998 Год назад

      Too common for muscle pain

  • @simsimmons8884
    @simsimmons8884 3 года назад +22

    I had so much pain I had unnecessary surgery! Pain showed up in my shoulder ON ONLY ONE SIDE! Since most pain from statins usually exhibits on both sides of your body...no doctor thought it was the statins. Cried myself to sleep for 6 months then got addicted to opioids. Luckily my chlorestoral got worse and doctor doubled my statin. Pain so bad for two minutes months that I realized it was the statin. I decided to stop the statin completely. Three days later, after two years of pain, all pain stopped. Advice- 1) no matter what the doctors suggest, take half the dose or less for a while to gauge side effects. 2) When doctors do not know something, they blame you, not their lack of knowledge 3) You must be your own advocate regardless of how you are treated by docs and nurses. Fight for yourself regardless of what you are told. Hope this helps you.

    • @dwofford
      @dwofford 11 месяцев назад +2

      I am having your same symptoms only on my right side! Sometimes it hurts to put my arm on the bed!

    • @treliq
      @treliq 7 месяцев назад

      Unbelievable! My left shoulder started being in pain after being prescribed a high dose of statins. I cannot understand why only the left shoulder/arm as I'm right handed and I haven't done anything weird to it. I'll stop statins for few days to see how it goes

  • @liinamuremi8392
    @liinamuremi8392 Год назад +4

    I was on Statins tablets and it crippled me for years. I was going through a tougher lifestyle eg confided into a wheelchair, aches and terrible pain the whole body, could not manage to feed myself, till I went for pre assessment, the Consultant told me to stop Statins for 4 weeks otherwise there will be complications during the operation. Second week when stop the treatment I could use my hands by feeding myself, learning to walk with a Zimmer flame the pain decreased. After the operation I decided not to take. I suffered for many years without knowing the cause stress depression and anxiety the medication put me through. Thanks Dr for the helpful information 👍 God bless you 🙏

  • @wishbone103
    @wishbone103 3 года назад +27

    This is great info. I switched from Atorvastatin to Rosuvastatin, recently, because of muscle pain. I hate taking these things. I feel like crap all the time. After working out at the gym, nothing feels good or normal. I am thinking about just quitting. My Mother lived to be 95 and never took anything.

    • @chanserena1430
      @chanserena1430 3 года назад +2

      Atorvastatin to Rosuvastatin Are both STATINS 🙄

    • @wishbone103
      @wishbone103 3 года назад +3

      @@chanserena1430 I know

    • @chanserena1430
      @chanserena1430 3 года назад +1

      @@wishbone103 gd morning... So sorry I tot is a different med. Hv a blessed day

    • @godfreypatrick9792
      @godfreypatrick9792 Год назад +2

      i am on atorvarstatin and recently had the dosage increased. my running has gone to crap, and my legs burn. I literally feel like my muscle mass in my thighs are burning away. I am 67 but have run all my life, past few years around 30km per week. now I am happy when I hit a 4km run and 12km in a week which is simply put, pathetic. I am also seriously thinking of dumping this and aiming for a diet related way to reduce my cholestral (which is only borderline anyway)

    • @wishbone103
      @wishbone103 Год назад +1

      @@godfreypatrick9792 I have recently started taking red yeast rice. Google it. I get mine from NOW. They have the highest monacolin K which is what reduces cholesterol. I also take CoQ10 and Nattokinase with it according to a pubmed article.

  • @bud1412
    @bud1412 3 года назад +3

    I have been on Lipitor for 35+ years, and have started all the problems you mentioned. I am stopping to see if there is a improvement. I am 81 years old. I subbed, thanks for the video.

  • @mariaegonzalez4232
    @mariaegonzalez4232 3 года назад +16

    I know people who at least, after taking Lipitor for 3 weeks were unable to walk and eventually, in a wheelchair for awhile, and afterwards paralyzed. Just today I talked to a friend who after taking Lipitor for 30 days! Is in a wheelchair! That is a crime that should be stopped and treat people through better habits in life style. Thank you doctor. Keep insisting in better food choices

    • @ThinkYourHealth
      @ThinkYourHealth  3 года назад +2

      Thank you for sharing your friend's experience and your feedback.

    • @nimalrajapaksa4454
      @nimalrajapaksa4454 3 года назад +1

      I am taking Lipitor for the last 20 years. so far I am alright. my first single stenting was in 2004. the second and third were in 2012. total three stents. now in 2021 still I am ok.

    • @themuzz351
      @themuzz351 3 года назад +4

      Why hasn't there been a class action suit on Lipitor?

  • @joannawilson1905
    @joannawilson1905 3 года назад +38

    Ive been on statins for 5 years, the muscles in my legs are effected most. Thankyou DR your advice is invaluable x

    • @tommygunn7745
      @tommygunn7745 2 года назад +2

      since it effects muscle groups it likely adversly effect the heart. No one mentions that probability.We all should be locating where someone discusses that. Cardiologist for starters

  • @carolbrooks8613
    @carolbrooks8613 3 года назад +8

    God bless you for informing people of these risks. Doctors prescribe these medications without telling the side effects. I am experiencing aches and weakness in my calves. I've been off of crestor for about 45 days now but the damage had already been done. I am 63 years old caregiver for my mother who's 91 and I really struggle some days. But again God bless you Dr. John🙏🏽

    • @Rajkunwar-xi6dv
      @Rajkunwar-xi6dv Год назад

      Has the pain gone away after stopping statins?

  • @joesolis4369
    @joesolis4369 3 года назад +12

    thanks for the info !! my mother is 92 she takes Atorvastatin 10mg twice a day, she does have muscle pain in the legs also weakness she is tired of taking meds and she has other issues also. I will continue to watch your videos and ask the doctor to make some changes !!

  • @valstewart2418
    @valstewart2418 3 года назад +19

    I have been taking statins for many many years and my legs felt like I was carrying around two tree trunks. Read up on them and stopped taking them three months ago and I can walk further, get out of the chair better and no pain, also it’s like walking on lighter branches now. Thank you.

  • @deniseperry9850
    @deniseperry9850 3 года назад +11

    I have gotten this from all statins including Proluent shot and from now Repatha they are killing me. you have confirmed every thing I am experiencing, I am 59 and I am crippled from these treatments.

    • @ThinkYourHealth
      @ThinkYourHealth  3 года назад +2

      Wow, sorry to hear that.Hang in there.Concentrate on what you have control over ie diet & exercise.Are you able to get a physical therapy program through your Doctor?

    • @deniseperry9850
      @deniseperry9850 3 года назад +1

      @@ThinkYourHealth physical therapy makes it worse I had 3 months of therapy ended up having massage and cupping to relieve the muscle knots in my upper back. Now the pain is mainly in lower back and thighs and now working into my knees. I am choosing to discontinue my Repatha therapy for atleast 6 months to let my body get back to normal. I have tried pain medication several different kinds. Ibuprofen and shots of Toradol at ER seem to have the best relief. but only temporary. The more this medication for me that is taken (Repatha) the more it builds up and effects my liver and the pain is getting worse and so is my health. It has caused me to become crippled and I can barely walk. last shot taken 2 weks ago or so and I am just now getting over the painful peak. I am probably in the 5% that can not tolerate this kind of medication. Proluent did the same thing even worse in 3 months thiat one was horrible. So for now I have to try to watch my diet even more closely. I am preparing to do a DNA of my health to see if it can give me a more in depth idea about my body composition and sensitivities. Do you have any ideas or suggestions of which DNA service does the best testing for this kind of analysis?

    • @deniseperry9850
      @deniseperry9850 3 года назад +2

      @@ThinkYourHealth I did stop this medication April 3rd last injection. I have started physical therapy massaging and warm water low impact to get mobility and muscles moving again. just over 2 months out and starting to see improvements. takes up to 90 days for the toxic PSCK9 inhibitors to get out of your system. Also making much needed changes to diet. more greens veggies and limiting red meats. it is helping and I am feeling better every week so far. It is a long road to recover from the damage this stuff has done to me. I just wish I didn't wait 18 months to finally stop the torture

    • @mellizacepeda4348
      @mellizacepeda4348 3 года назад +2

      I take atorvastatin 20mg.for 3yrs.already,& now i fell pain n my upper arm a muscle pain ,how can i cure this?

  • @uradragon7823
    @uradragon7823 3 года назад +9

    I'm 68 been on atorvastatin for years and for the past 6 months or so much ache and weakness in my arms. Just got turned on to the side affects of statins. Going to stop it for a while and see if the aches and weakness abates. I want to get back in my kayak and do some fishing! Thank you Dr. Thurairajah for the video.

    • @ThinkYourHealth
      @ThinkYourHealth  3 года назад +1

      Check with your health care provider first as he/she knows your medical history.They have to also make sure that nothing else is causing those symptoms you described.

    • @john5155
      @john5155 3 года назад +2

      I am 60, been on statins for years. I wake up as if i have been beaten up so stopped simvastatin for nearly two weeks and feel the difference already. I will be checking all my meds side affects.

  • @indravadanmody5075
    @indravadanmody5075 2 года назад +1

    I’m 75. My doctor wants me continue with Atorvastatin. I was taking very long time. I couldn’t understand why am I getting mussels spasm on my shoulders. After listening you on RUclips, I stopped it about year ago. My spasm gone since then. I told my doctor about my experience. I just wanted to thank you. Please continue sharing your knowledge and expertise. By the way my cholesterol level excellent, at lower to mid range.

    • @Rajkunwar-xi6dv
      @Rajkunwar-xi6dv Год назад

      If one stops taking statins then in how many days will the back pain go away??

  • @lyndamitton4496
    @lyndamitton4496 2 года назад +2

    I love your ‘swinging and cheery attitude…you bring the ‘relief’ if the pills don’t!

  • @Isabela2024-yr
    @Isabela2024-yr 3 года назад +21

    Thank you doctor for this information. It does help for me understand the pain that I'd been suffering for years. I didn't know taking statin drugs causing pain. I thought something is missing like viramins. I'm taking vitamin C, D, B12 but the pain is still there. I didn't know it's the statin doing it. Thank you for the info. I will definitely watch your next video. 🙏

    • @tommygunn7745
      @tommygunn7745 2 года назад +2

      since it effects muscle groups it likely adversly effect the heart. No one mentions that probability.We all should be locating where someone discusses that. Cardiologist for starters

    • @tommygunn7745
      @tommygunn7745 2 года назад +4

      My different location (3)extremely painful muscle pains(each at different areas of my body) took 3-4 months to stop after quitting rosuvastatin Calc10mg . Have one area that wont and its been about 9 months now.

    • @jacquihenry9300
      @jacquihenry9300 2 года назад +1

      @@tommygunn7745 ]

  • @bobbyborg
    @bobbyborg 3 года назад +10

    YES! I have been exercising my whole life. All of a sudden, I had a bad cramp in my left Calve muscle that wouldn't go ahead (which consequently was one week to two week after I started taking Lipitor). I had no idea that Lipitor causes muscle pain (so it was not in mind).

    • @Rajkunwar-xi6dv
      @Rajkunwar-xi6dv Год назад

      If one stops taking statins and fenofibrate then in how many days will the back pain go away??

  • @Drostvideo
    @Drostvideo 4 года назад +6

    I was prescribed a statin by my doc to lower cholesterol but after learning the bad side effects I asked if their was an alternative. He said change your diet which I've done. I was surprised he didn't mention that option before prescribing a statin.. Do you recommend statins to lower cholesterol?

    • @ThinkYourHealth
      @ThinkYourHealth  4 года назад +3

      A very good question with no straight forward answer, as the answer is more nuanced.The hallmark of treatment are : LIFESTYLE CHANGES: Lifestyle modifications such as smoking cessation, increase in physical activity, and improvement in diet have important beneficial effects on cardiovascular morbidity and mortality . These changes are effective even shortly after they have been started.In one of my previous videos I have recommended the Mediterranean diet .Now according to medical guidelines the following are recommendation given to Doctors on when to start a patient on a Statin drug: I have labelled them as 1 and 2 so that you can read the current established guidelines.(1)Patients with established coronary heart disease (CHD) have a high risk of subsequent cardiovascular events, including myocardial infarction (MI), stroke, and death from cardiovascular disease (CVD). (2) Similarly, patients without established disease but who have a 10-year risk of >7.5 to 10 percent or greater are at relatively high risk. This your Doctor can calculate given your medical history. My approach is slightly different as I want patients to take responsibility for their health and I hook them up with a dietician and if need be talk to our physical therapy department about an exercise program.So even if Cholesterol and in particular LDL- cholesterol might be higher and they do have risk factors the benefits of a regular exercise program and diet outweigh Statin treatment and potential side effects. ( There are certain diseases with high Triglycerides where we need to start at once, but this is too much detail).I will reiterate also what I wrote as an answer to Dr.Sno as she asked about when to start or stop treatment in older adults.This is what I wrote: The decision whether to treat an elevated LDL-C in an older individual should be individualized based on both chronological and biologic age. I am conservative with my patients and patients with a limited life span from a concomitant illness, frailty, multiple co-morbidities are probably not a candidates for drug therapy. I usually start having these discussions after age 70, especially after 80.I have a sub set of patients who are quite medically complex, and in fact had a conversation with our pharmacy consultant last week to identify patients who might be on Statins looking for opportunities to taper or titrate doses off.I have linked a PDF link which you can read and those are the recommendations I follow: www.choosingwisely.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Cholesterol-Drugs-For-People-75-And-Older-AMDA.pdf.

    • @Drostvideo
      @Drostvideo 4 года назад +3

      @@ThinkYourHealth Thx for the feedback..your article makes a lot of sense to avoid statins because of the side effects

  • @sharondowns3606
    @sharondowns3606 3 года назад +16

    I have never gotten over the statin adverse effects. My legs are always aching. Statin drugs should be removed from the drug market.

    • @themuzz351
      @themuzz351 3 года назад +3

      I still maintain why hasnt there been a class action suit on Lipitor/statins?

  • @patrickbowen5398
    @patrickbowen5398 Год назад +6

    I currently am experiencing bad leg muscle pain due to what I believe is the drug CRESTOR which I was prescribed. I stopped taking CRESTOR 1-month ago. My leg muscle pains have not reduced. I found your video to be very informative regarding this condition. I hope that eventually my bad leg muscle pains will stop. Thank you, Doctor.

    • @JessyFinch
      @JessyFinch 10 месяцев назад

      Check the pulse in your arm , and blood pressure. Then take the pulse and blood pressure of your ankle area . You may have PAD if the pressure difference is much lower in your ankle.

  • @WealthProtectionLady
    @WealthProtectionLady 4 года назад +4

    I don't have this issue, but my 90 year-old mom does. Great information and I'll have her watch this as well.

    • @ThinkYourHealth
      @ThinkYourHealth  4 года назад +2

      Hopefully, it will be of some value to her.

  • @louisewalker6736
    @louisewalker6736 3 года назад +6

    Thank you for this information. I have been on statin for about 3 years. I take magnesium citrate at night to help prevent non stop muscle spasms during the night. It truly does help. I still feel "tight" muscle aches in my feet and legs during the day as well. I am in pain in my upper arms due to muscle wasting in my arms as per my RMT. Some times my pain is 10/10 in my right arm. I do take omega 3 with Q10. I take Zinc with copper. My doctors do not take my complaints about muscle pain/pain very seriously. I have angina, Type 2 due to cardiac issues. I am on other meds. The cardiologist did mention a new drug that is injected. I am not too keep on that option.

  • @martinkeats4429
    @martinkeats4429 Год назад +1

    Amlodopine + Atorvastatin is giving me horrendous arm and leg pains, which should I stop?

  • @ProfessorTanyaSpeaks
    @ProfessorTanyaSpeaks 4 года назад +8

    I'm actually in pain today, but it's as a result of not sitting properly at the computer, so I guess it's a posture issue that caused the soreness. I never knew pain could be so great that walking UPSTAIRS could be so painful. I'm on the mend now, so it's all good. Anyway, this video caught my attention because of the topic.

    • @ThinkYourHealth
      @ThinkYourHealth  4 года назад +2

      Hope you are feeling better.Unfortunately, Statin drugs gave that side effect in some people.

    • @PilatesWorkoutsOnline
      @PilatesWorkoutsOnline 4 года назад +2

      It's amazing how sitting all day can cause pain in our bodies.

  • @besearchingforwisdom6267
    @besearchingforwisdom6267 3 года назад +4

    I've been really struggling with this Lipitor and it's getting worse. This video was perfect timing, no more Lipitor for me...gotta find a better way now

  • @YesToTech
    @YesToTech 4 года назад +17

    Absolutely adored your advice on how to stop pain! Can't wait to try this out! Thanks so much for all that you do! :)

    • @ThinkYourHealth
      @ThinkYourHealth  4 года назад +2

      You're so welcome!Thanks for checking and stopping by.

    • @carolbrooks8613
      @carolbrooks8613 3 года назад

      Hello, I didn't see that video please share I really need it. I have to take care of my 91 year old mother as well as myself. God bless!

  • @robbalcomb8955
    @robbalcomb8955 3 года назад +7

    I have Myasthenia Gravis been on statins for about 5 years I'm now finding it hard to walk legs feel very weak and I need to rest while out walking I am also registered part sighted help please

  • @suhasinireddy8682
    @suhasinireddy8682 3 года назад +8

    Most valuable info about the side-effects of statins. Thank you.

  • @MattWongIR
    @MattWongIR 4 года назад +20

    I learned a lot here, thanks for spreading the knowledge. Looking forward to your next video!

  • @marcussolomon1363
    @marcussolomon1363 3 года назад +9

    I am on statins, Astorvastatin, and I am experiencing increasing itching. I suspect it is being caused by the statin medicine I am taking, prescribed for me for a number of years for high Cholestrol.
    What can I di to stop itching if it is statin related. ?

  • @jmills1549
    @jmills1549 Год назад +1

    Trade off.... Had all this without. Statins.... At an old age still lifting heavy weights (work).... I find if I don't do much it gets worse. Lots of heat... On a heavy lift works.... Still happy😊..... Thanks for advice doc

  • @UncleWally3
    @UncleWally3 3 года назад +15

    Need more examination of the prior question: When is cholesterol a problem, and when is it not a problem?

    • @BassGoBomb
      @BassGoBomb 3 года назад

      M9ne is double what it should be - and that's the 'bad' cholesterool - and I'm on Atorvastatin and also wondering what to do as I have many injuries in my legs, hip and so on, and so have no idea whether I have 'more' joint pain or not - certainly an achilles problem, I had last year, has returned - but that coud be due to the type of exercise I have been taking lately. All these things are very complicated. And, as the man says, see ya Dr, and we all different due to our genes. Good video .. sound advice I think.

  • @madhuchavan4961
    @madhuchavan4961 3 года назад +11

    Sir, I'm on Rosuline-Gold 20/75, consisting of Rosuvastatin, Aspirin and Clopidogrel for years. Recently I saw leg muscle pain and sometimes I feel numdness under my foot. Please advise.

  • @charlibaltimore7641
    @charlibaltimore7641 3 года назад +25

    I AM LIVID!! I will never trust another doctor as long as I live!!

    • @onedayatatime8756
      @onedayatatime8756 3 года назад +3

      You probably can't trust this so called doctor either. Just saying. Why isn't he at his practice taking care of his patients instead of making videos and answering questions in the comments section? 🤔 I'm lucky if a Doctor sees me for even 10 mins without rushing me out the door so they can rush their next patient out the door, too.

    • @gayedawn1
      @gayedawn1 3 года назад +3

      For every drug there is a side effect so said my deceased father 30/ years ago. Nothing changes as Big Pharma companies will still get their huge profits, still be sued billions of dollars for negligence, side effects, fraud, bribery. Ethics don’t always matter over profit and side effect and deaths from meds are just a by product of their inventions.

  • @florypridgen4773
    @florypridgen4773 3 года назад +1

    Thank you Doctor for your good I had the problems with statin, and I quit taking.God bless you.

  • @mariereneelubin4012
    @mariereneelubin4012 3 года назад +7

    Thanks so much for this very informative video.You are a blessing.Looking forward to your next video.

    • @ThinkYourHealth
      @ThinkYourHealth  3 года назад

      Thank you so much for your kind words.appreciate your support.

  • @kaydee5639
    @kaydee5639 3 года назад +3

    Myositis is quite less common in cardiac practice. We have treated hundred of ischemic heart disease for last 15 years as a cardiac surgeon. We have seen very few symptoms among pre and post cabg patients on atorvastatin 40 or rosuvastatin 20. Q10 added lessens the symptoms . Of course we have used lesser amounts and on alternate days regime. But stoppage of medicine statins may land one up in CVA or progression of vascular and renal diseases.

  • @zaidarosario2281
    @zaidarosario2281 3 года назад +3

    Tank you so much for you information , i been taking statins and i been feeling so sick, i have dizzines, stifmess of muscles , gain weigth feeling very depress,and i have no idea what is the reason ,you give me the anser, blessings.

  • @PilatesWorkoutsOnline
    @PilatesWorkoutsOnline 4 года назад +16

    Very interesting, it's amazing how Statins can cause this reaction in our bodies. Very beneficial information, good to know about the side affects.

    • @ThinkYourHealth
      @ThinkYourHealth  4 года назад +4

      Thanks for watching this content.Yes, with most prescriptions medications we have to be educated about side-effects.

    • @janicemcguire5839
      @janicemcguire5839 3 года назад +1

      What is the recommendation for those that have had heart hi colesterol, hi blood pressure, heart attack and open heart surgery and now 82 yrs. old..My cardiologist recommends the statins. I take 3 days a week is all.

  • @rohinihyde4766
    @rohinihyde4766 Год назад

    I was on Lipitor for slightly elevated cholesterol for about 1 year - my dr put down my muscle weakness to being age related, but after two months I knew that she was wrong as people don't age so fast. At my insistence she ordered a blood test and my CK levels were found to be elevated. Stopped that statins and went to a naturopath who subscribed COQ10 and acupuncture. Took about six months to feel normal again. Thanks for this video - very interesting and well explained.

  • @CplSkiUSMC
    @CplSkiUSMC 3 года назад +10

    I just started Atorvastatin 6 or 7 weeks ago and I'm having trouble with it. Thanks for explaining what's going on here. I'm going to take your advice and talk to my doctor about going back to Pravastatin which I did not have trouble with.

    • @ThinkYourHealth
      @ThinkYourHealth  3 года назад +1

      Glad that this video was of some value.Thanks for your feedback.

  • @carmelsullivan8971
    @carmelsullivan8971 3 года назад +5

    So informative I'm six years on stations and last month I'm drilled with muscle pain at 59 I'm hoping it will pass I take cq10

  • @luvvcnn
    @luvvcnn 3 года назад +30

    Dr. Rajah, background music does NOT need to be SO LOUD.
    It is difficult to focus on your words.

    • @ThinkYourHealth
      @ThinkYourHealth  3 года назад +1

      Thanks for your feedback.Will take this into account in future videos.

    • @Kim-ri1hg
      @Kim-ri1hg 3 года назад

      I loved this video very very informational and I will see my doctor about my statin issues and the tips you gave. The music was also too loud for me , however thank you very much for this informative video :)))

    • @outofround
      @outofround Месяц назад

      Turn on the captioning which is what I do.

    • @luvvcnn
      @luvvcnn Месяц назад

      @@outofround Thanks! When I read captions, my focus is all on reading rather than understanding & assimilating the knowledge 😊

    • @outofround
      @outofround Месяц назад

      @@luvvcnn I used to work at CNN! LOL!

  • @fredlew781
    @fredlew781 3 года назад +30

    Yes, very painful cramps. Usually at night, they’ll wake me up.

    • @derekearles9844
      @derekearles9844 3 года назад +5

      I stopped taking them because of the night cramps

    • @GrahamDixonUK
      @GrahamDixonUK 3 года назад +5

      @@derekearles9844 Me too. I've been on 4 different statins at various doses of each and they all give me muscle and joint aches and dizziness and a foggy head. It took my doctor nearly 2 years to stop pestering me to take them. I think on the UK, doctors now realise that statins don't even do much to lower cholesterol.

    • @elizabethfuhr5527
      @elizabethfuhr5527 3 года назад +2

      Night cramps can be deficiency in Magnesium. Day cramps or during exercise can be deficiency in Potassium. Deficiency in either or both Mg and K plus intake of Statins can make cramping worse: very painful. Potassium is easier for the body to absorb compared to Magnesium. Mg requires appropriate level of acidity in the stomach for better absorption.

    • @eltiarribero
      @eltiarribero 3 года назад +1

      @@derekearles9844 I did too. My doctor put me then on Crestor 20mg. I only take half per day, however, my cholesterol and triglycerides were on the 4 and 5 hundred. 3 months after just had labwork, and both are normal. 😉 I almost forgot, she put me on Omega 3 too, prescribed odose, not over the counter ones.

    • @sandywhite1550
      @sandywhite1550 3 года назад

      @@derekearles9844 Vitamin D deficiency can also cause leg cramps. I’m on a low dose 5 mg rosuvastatin and also take 2,000 mg of D3 daily. Most people are deficient in vitamin D because it comes mainly from the sun or fish oils. People in the northern hemisphere and people with dark skin tone don’t absorb enough vitamin D and need to take a daily supplement. Light exercise also relieves leg muscle pain.

  • @leadofflefty3164
    @leadofflefty3164 3 года назад +4

    Just recently talked with my cardiologist after experiencing joint and muscle pain in my left leg. He has discontinued the generic for Crestor which I started 2 1/2 months ago. Feel like this is making a difference. Thanks for your video.

    • @petercofrancesco1620
      @petercofrancesco1620 2 года назад +1

      Same Symptoms , Rosuvastatin Triggered Tinnitus , Also 11Weeks After Prescription , I Stopped It Altogether ! It's Been 7 Months Hopefully To Recover !

    • @Rajkunwar-xi6dv
      @Rajkunwar-xi6dv Год назад

      If one stops taking statins and fenofibrate then in how many days will the back pain go away??

  • @MrBEALLYOUMAYBE
    @MrBEALLYOUMAYBE 3 года назад +2

    Thanks for the information - I am 74 years old and just had a total cholesterol of 272. I don't want to chance anything that makes me less active due to muscle pain. I am not sure I even want to chance a drug that may make my quality of life degrade. How successful can diet be with an elderly person?

  • @ExpatEssentialsForItaly
    @ExpatEssentialsForItaly 4 года назад +16

    Really interesting video. Is this collectively referred to as fibromyalgia, or are the symptoms a pre-cursor to this condition? Agree with reducing reliance on drugs. Will be useful to know if there are alternative natural remedies to the statins. Great video.

    • @ThinkYourHealth
      @ThinkYourHealth  4 года назад +10

      Natural remedies could be another video title.Fibromyalgia, is not related, it is a disease condition in its own right. Thanks for watching.

    • @ExpatEssentialsForItaly
      @ExpatEssentialsForItaly 4 года назад +4

      @@ThinkYourHealth, thanks for clearing that up. You're welcome.

  • @BWoodPhotography
    @BWoodPhotography 4 года назад +5

    I always enjoy learning more about health issues and how to help make them better. Thank you for sharing.

  • @semperfi-guy
    @semperfi-guy 3 года назад +6

    thank you so much for giving better information than my primary doctor.

    • @ThinkYourHealth
      @ThinkYourHealth  3 года назад +1

      Glad it was helpful!Appreciate your feedback.Thank-you.

  • @jameswhited1919
    @jameswhited1919 2 года назад +1

    tried every thing you said. 1 and half years after stopping Statin drugs and Repatha I went from less than 50% clogged to 100% and had another heart attack, received a triple bypass . Muscle / nerve pain continues

  • @dianesexton2697
    @dianesexton2697 Год назад +1

    Yes I have been on
    Atorvastatin for almost 3 months and have recently developed muscle pain in my legs preventing me to sleep at night and now also getting muscle pain in my face. Never wanted to take this drug in the first place but felt I was pushed into it. I will go and see my GP to let her know I won’t be taking it anymore.

  • @josephgonzales3857
    @josephgonzales3857 3 года назад +9

    I was taking simvastatin 5 yrs my hips started aching real bad I felt very lethargic at 3AM I started getting a racing heart almost every morning I quit taking them I went on keto all symptoms went away I lost about 30 lbs got lots of energy now I walk 1hr 6 days a week I'm 74

    • @ThinkYourHealth
      @ThinkYourHealth  3 года назад +1

      Great.Thanks for sharing your story.

    • @raymondroy7398
      @raymondroy7398 3 года назад

      What is keto?

    • @josephgonzales3857
      @josephgonzales3857 3 года назад +3

      @@raymondroy7398 it's a diet that's low on carbs high on fat known as lchf you eliminate most carbs eat high fat foods like steaks ground beef avocados salmon this diet is good for diabetics for sugar control and to lose weight

    • @jamescarty2790
      @jamescarty2790 3 года назад

      What is keto

    • @jamescarty2790
      @jamescarty2790 3 года назад

      What is keto

  • @jaynepetree391
    @jaynepetree391 2 года назад +1

    Yes Dr . I’ve benn taking this medications for long time. Thank you so much fir the info. Thanks

  • @chhetrikush
    @chhetrikush 2 месяца назад

    I was taking statin for more than 3 years now, I have pain on my knees and back. I had stopped statin after watching Dr Barbara videos. I am not taking any replacement medication now, my last cholesterol report is normal. What is your advice on it Doc ?

  • @jonnyjonjonjrshabadoo6565
    @jonnyjonjonjrshabadoo6565 7 месяцев назад

    Hi Doctor, I’ve had pain in my lat muscle, so I paused atorvastatin to see if it caused by this medication. What are your thoughts on resuming physical activity while my lat muscle recovers?

  • @jillbecker8651
    @jillbecker8651 3 года назад +1

    Thank you so much for your videos. I just found them. I’m a retired nurse who still earns more every day…thanks to people like you..😷👍🏻

  • @ortallevitan1
    @ortallevitan1 4 года назад +11

    You are truly incredible! Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge 😊

  • @seahaltura7116
    @seahaltura7116 4 года назад +10

    Great information! I've learned so much from this video. Thank you for sharing!

    • @ThinkYourHealth
      @ThinkYourHealth  4 года назад +1

      You are so welcome!I am glad it was of some value.Thanks for checking out the video.

  • @cosettesaguin4428
    @cosettesaguin4428 3 года назад +2

    I'm taking Pravastatin for 2months now and I felt muscle pain.

    • @davidcaledonia5187
      @davidcaledonia5187 3 года назад +1

      your taking to high a dose of the statin, this happened to me at the start of using a statin, once my cholesterol was at an acceptable level I stopped taking any kind of statin, keep to a healthy diet and you will be ok without a statin, everyone knows their own bodies, doctors to me are basically just agents for drug companies, so beware of doctors telling you to take medications, all that does is make their lives easier, I have seen good doctors and not so good doctors, the really good doctors are brilliant, but I would say due to having to many patients usually, the could not care less doctors I would put at 95%

  • @jimhunter4999
    @jimhunter4999 3 года назад +2

    You just scared the heck out of me. I have degraded muscle function which has baffled me.

  • @KahanisGoldenBytes
    @KahanisGoldenBytes Год назад

    An accidental 'bumping into' this video and another of yours - What an eye opener ! I have been experiencing some of these what you mention here. Glad I came across your channel.

  • @GingerSnapVizsla
    @GingerSnapVizsla Год назад +3

    I realize this video is 2 years old but I wanted to comment. I found your video very informative. And you seem to take the muscle pain seriously. I watched a few other videos before this one and it seems like most Drs. do not take the muscle pain seriously. I was started on lipitor about 5 months ago, but have been having pain in my upper back and left chest muscle for several months now. Feels just like you mentioned, as if I had the flu. Always sore. Not very "painful" per se, just sore. I have family members that take this same medicine, and they do not ever complain. However, I am also on a calcium channel blocker. I have an appt today with my Dr. and I will be mentioning the pains to her and if it could possibly be a side effect of the medicine.

  • @angelineharmon9803
    @angelineharmon9803 2 года назад

    Thanks I will talk to my Dr because my nerve pain has gotten much worst during the years.

  • @derrickfarrier9637
    @derrickfarrier9637 Месяц назад

    I've been on atorvastatin on and off for the past 2 yrs. Just recently as 3 weeks ago I've been experiencing some random sensations in my chest muscles in different spots.The sensations could best be described as spasms, pulses, and sometimes palpitations. Within the past few days currently, this would immediately be followed by muscle weakness in other parts of my body followed by the feeling of fainting or immediately falling asleep. During these "episodes" I would get random pin pricks in different muscles, muscle trembling along with the weakness, and sometimes a dull burning sensation in random muscles, as if my muscles are wasting away.
    This may last an hour up to a few hours, but once it subsides I feel normal again as if nothing has happened.
    I thought it was something going on with my heart or I may be developing a musculoskeletal disorder. But just last night when I looked up the possible side effects of atorvastatin this all began to make sense.
    I just hope that these side effects haven't done any irreversible damage.

  • @JolyTematio
    @JolyTematio 4 года назад +8

    These are awesome tips! Never knew that Satins could cause these type of pain. Thank you for sharing

  • @jaynecooper6681
    @jaynecooper6681 3 года назад +8

    Thank you for this information. It is so helpful. I started on atorvastatin several months ago. I have radiating and referred pain from facet joint syndrome and I have been trying to work out what this pain I am feeling is because it is different from the original back pain. The back pain used to respond well to heat and to some analgesics but this pain doesn’t seem to. I am prescribed Gabapentin for nerve pain and I try only to take it at night but sometimes it works and sometimes not. How can I differentiate the pains ? I am becoming more convinced that some of the pain is from statins. Thank you so much. 🙏

    • @blang8127
      @blang8127 3 года назад +3

      I have the same problem as you do! Not sure if it's never pain or from the station I take at night..😣seems to me to be the statin, dont have this pain in the day.

    • @victoriahao9960
      @victoriahao9960 2 года назад +2

      True..it happened to me. I could hardly move my arms legs in pain i found out one time watching tv i said omg.omg. 25yrs ago. I stopped n refused any doctor who wanted to give again. I am painless for yrs i am 77yrs

    • @Rajkunwar-xi6dv
      @Rajkunwar-xi6dv Год назад

      ​@@victoriahao9960If one stops taking statins then in how many days will the back pain go away??

  • @jimwhittaker5838
    @jimwhittaker5838 3 года назад +3

    Good video. Definitely talking to my doctor about it. Been hurting for years.

  • @maryhirsch8044
    @maryhirsch8044 3 года назад +3

    I recently started having pain in the middle of my upper right arm and lesser pain in my left upper arm. Sharp, stabbing pain to the point where I couldn't sleep. I thought I had overworked myself so I took a break and rested but it didn't help. I take atorvastatin 10mg starting about a year ago. I started researching the side effects and was shocked! As of right now, I refuse to take it any more. I will discuss this with my doctor the end of next month on my next visit. I guess I'm going to have to make some lifestyle changes!

    • @vancouveruzbekistan5350
      @vancouveruzbekistan5350 11 месяцев назад

      why did you not carefully research the side effects BEFORE you started taking statins???

  • @outofround
    @outofround Месяц назад

    I've been off astrovastatin for 2 months now and my muscles are still sore. I was at a c/k of 5975 when I went in to the ER for 5 days on an IV. I came out at 1875. But a week later my doctor said I was at 4850. I was given some prednisone but didn't really get any effect from it. I heard it will take some time to flush it out of my body. Thanks for the video! My doctor referred me to a rheumatologist now. He did a blood lab but I suspect my c/k is still high. NOW he wants me to see a neurologist. What's that all about?

  • @rajeshtanwar2445
    @rajeshtanwar2445 3 года назад +4

    Thanks for sharing this insightful and valuable information on various aspects of taking statins.

  • @alexanderelnaggar3243
    @alexanderelnaggar3243 Год назад +3

    I am taking statins and I feel so much pain

  • @dancebyturni3957
    @dancebyturni3957 Год назад

    Hi Sir, my dad is 63 years old. Before 2 years ago his LDL was 190 . Dr suggested to take statin 0.5 mg . After taking statin, he is suffering from back muscle pain. Now his LDL is 95 and HDL is 80 . Please advise how to stop statin safely. Thank you.

  • @anyoldorion
    @anyoldorion 3 года назад +2

    My GP prescribed statins for me twice.Both times I had to stop them due to pain and loss of mobility in joints,esp shoulders. The second time I could barely perform basic care activities and thought I was heading for a Nursing Home. Then a light came on 🤦🏻‍♂️ I stopped statins and within weeks was pain free and fully mobile. The value of statins,imo,was diminished by my accompanying loss of mobility.

  • @TheMambomaster
    @TheMambomaster 3 года назад +1

    I was taking Rapatha injections that lowered my Cholesterol. I can not take statins. I developed leg muscle soreness and soreness to ligaments.
    I stopped the injections about 7-8 weeks ago. I am improving very slowly. You described my issues exactly.

  • @edwinrenaud2002
    @edwinrenaud2002 Год назад

    Excellent teaching. I learned so much from you. Thanks.

  • @samirnarvekar8488
    @samirnarvekar8488 Год назад +1

    7th Tip. Take statin with CoQ 10. Total or partial reduction in muscle pain is assured. My personal experience for years.

  • @lidamargarian2104
    @lidamargarian2104 2 года назад +1

    Thank you so much for sharing this informative video. God Bless You 🙏🙏

  • @socalifone3044
    @socalifone3044 Год назад

    Great video.
    I thought I was going crazy with my knee, Thigh and foot pain. Foot tingling also. I'm going to discontinue and consult my Doc for alternatives.
    Thx 👍

  • @fafunvideography
    @fafunvideography 2 года назад +1

    Im a massage therapist, i see people who take statins, they dont associate the condition of their muscles with the Statins, their doctors dont talk to them about it. Their muscles feel like tight bands, no amount of massage is gonna fix that... later expect knee replacement because the tight muscles are likely to cause pain there...etc, etc, i could go on, and on...

  • @babun7963
    @babun7963 3 года назад +3

    Thanks for your advice. What about Rosuvastatin 5mg? I am under this for many years and my doctor advised me to avoid Fenofibrates. I am unable to identify the nature of my muscle related low back problem. Thanks.

    • @ThinkYourHealth
      @ThinkYourHealth  3 года назад +1

      Crestor lowers total cholesterol, LDL cholesterol, and triglycerides while increasing HDL cholesterol. However, it causes significantly better reductions in total cholesterol at lower doses compared to the other drugs in this class Rosuvastatin(Crestor) is a hydrophilic Statin.The risk is muscle injury is less than Atorvastatin

  • @juliahernandez7130
    @juliahernandez7130 3 года назад +2

    Im taking Simvastatin for 2 months and know i have shoulder aches back aches it really hurts.i called my doctor and they took them off.will see how i feel

    • @ThinkYourHealth
      @ThinkYourHealth  3 года назад +1

      Thanks for sharing your experience.Are you feeling better?

  • @ChrisSayles
    @ChrisSayles 3 года назад +3

    I was taking Atorvastatin and my doctor found signs of muscle damage when he checked my blood and told me to immediately stop taking the drug. My cholesterol is now climbing again,. The question I would like to ask is , are there any other cholesterol lowering drugs that I can take without have adverse effects on my body ?

    • @jamesvanetten4183
      @jamesvanetten4183 3 года назад

      I heard oatmeal will lower cholesterol

    • @signetulupan
      @signetulupan 3 года назад

      STOP EATING PORK!!! Don’t take b vitamins, probiotics, magnesium....all damaging!

  • @roselinasiron6591
    @roselinasiron6591 3 года назад +5

    Thnks Doc you explained it well.

  • @chandramouliramachandran4217
    @chandramouliramachandran4217 3 года назад +2

    Thanks for your valuable information. I started taking Atoorvastatin for the last four days on USA Dr's advice. One tablet a day. My total Cholesterol level ranges from 170 to 210, the latest being 210. Should I continue or can discontinue? Please advise.

    • @ThinkYourHealth
      @ThinkYourHealth  3 года назад

      You need to have that conversation with your Doctor as he/she is aware of your medical and medication history.

  • @DonnieGupton
    @DonnieGupton 4 года назад +16

    Thank you for this 6 tips to stop muscle pain!

  • @gaylecheung3087
    @gaylecheung3087 3 года назад +2

    And then I went on my hormone replacement therapy back onto it and the pain is gone like that Dr’s not too happy but my gynaecologist is very happy

  • @devir7846
    @devir7846 3 года назад +3

    Im Great to watch this video.. Thank you so much.. One small doubt sir... What about rouvas or roseday tablets..? Do they also have problems in future?

    • @ThinkYourHealth
      @ThinkYourHealth  3 года назад

      Thanks for your feedback.Wanted to clarify, do you mean Rosuvastatin?

    • @devir7846
      @devir7846 3 года назад

      @@ThinkYourHealth yes sir..

    • @ThinkYourHealth
      @ThinkYourHealth  3 года назад +1

      @@devir7846 These statins, including atorvastatin, simvastatin and fluvastatin are more likely to cause muscle aches. Rosuvastatin causes less muscle aches and pains.

    • @devir7846
      @devir7846 3 года назад

      @@ThinkYourHealth thank you soo much sir......

  • @salomievanloggerenberg825
    @salomievanloggerenberg825 8 месяцев назад

    I was put on Statins for 4 weeks. Simvastatien 20 mg after 4 weeks in taking it I expierced severe mucle cramps in my legs and soreness I had to take medication from the Hospital they thought it could be my anemia causing this (VitB12 Anemia but after looking at all the evidence on statins and mucle injury & inflammation I do believe that my severe leg cramps,stiffness is caused by the Statins. I have immediately discontinued it and on Tuesday I will discuss with my Doctor this. I did not even know of the severe side effects of statins.

  • @melodycoralde4320
    @melodycoralde4320 3 года назад +14

    Im taking statin for almost 2 months,,, lately i felt muscle pain and weakness in my legs ,,this maybe the reason..😭😭

    • @charlesday456
      @charlesday456 3 года назад

      Been taking statin for 6 years, no muscle problems, I’m 73 years old.

  • @subashnichandrasekar2046
    @subashnichandrasekar2046 3 года назад +3

    Thank you so much for the valuable information on statin👍

  • @haroldtyler8497
    @haroldtyler8497 3 года назад +4

    it appears every drug has good and bad properties best thing is to live a healthy life style if possible

  • @ToniMedwedew
    @ToniMedwedew 3 года назад +2

    You may have solved my leg problems doctor.I am on Atorvastatin and have been for a few years. What I am finding is that I have no strength in my legs, with a combination of pain. My diagnosis is severe osteoarthritis. I'm not convinced of the diagnosis. I recently had a blood test and came back as my kidney is only functioning at 50%. What are your thoughts?

    • @eyang7
      @eyang7 Год назад

      Functioning at 50%? Yikes! That's dangerous!

  • @happydischarge
    @happydischarge 3 года назад +7

    Thank you for these wonderful insights, Dr. John. I have been suffering from debilitating myalgia and fatigue for years. My dr tried taking me off of atorvastatin for a long time, two years, but I did not notice improvement. Could you recommend a specialist or program in my area who is as knowledgeable as you regarding myopathy and myalgia issues? I live in the Washington DC area, but Baltimore or Annapolis is also a possibility. Thanks for your help and caring for others.

    • @ThinkYourHealth
      @ThinkYourHealth  3 года назад +4

      Thank you very much for your feedback.Not too familiar with specialists in that area.You can follow up with Dr.Baer, who is the Chief of Rheumatology at John Hopkins.I trained under him when he was here in Buffalo,NY.

  • @luvvcnn
    @luvvcnn 3 года назад +26

    To avoid having to take statins, very important to make lifestyle changes

    • @maxinemoo6972
      @maxinemoo6972 3 года назад +5

      Phony tests created by the pharmaceutical companies. Big dollars in these drugs.

    • @carolbrooks8613
      @carolbrooks8613 3 года назад +2

      I am definitely working on what I eat nowadays.

    • @luvvcnn
      @luvvcnn 3 года назад +2

      @@carolbrooks8613 Wish You Good Health & Happiness 🙏

    • @baydad2006
      @baydad2006 2 года назад

      Thank you. Just started to take the medicine and the pain is unbearable. Don’t know what happens until watching this video.

  • @EdenGold
    @EdenGold 4 года назад +9

    This is so valuable, thank you SO much!