I think your last theory of Trixie being a desendant of Starswirl the Bearded is very logical. Would you mind if I wrote a fanfiction based on your FANtastic theory?
I actually love the idea of this theory! I hope hasbro uses this for an episode one cuz id love to see that. Or even just to see starswirl interact with or teach trixie would be nice to see
I agree it makes a lot of sense for Trixie to be a descendant of a wizard she seems so keen on proving she is an all great and powerful unicorn all shes really trying to do is prove her to her relatives that she can do what they probably do
Starlight Glimmer is a much stronger candidate for being a descendant of Starswirl than Trixie. She has a strong, seemingly natural raw magical power and a talent for spell casting rivaling that of even an alicorn like Princess Twilight. As we saw in the season 5 finale, Twilight could not defeat Starlight in a pure fight as they were evenly matched and had to force Starlight to see the consequences of her time-altering actions in actuality and reason with her in order to finally put a stop to her madness. Add to all of this the fact that Starlight with little effort was able to finish Starswirl's time travel spell and her ability to remove individual ponies' cutie marks as she did in the town in the season 5 premier and the circumstantial evidence just keeps piling up in favor of her being a direct descendant. Her physical appearance, magically inclined cutie mark, and even her name, Starlight Glimmer, all point towards an affinity and destiny centering on magic as a focal point. As for Trixie, she was never shown to be more than a traveling illusionist/magician who in actuality never possessed strong or impressive magical abilities of any kind. In fact, upon her return to Ponyville, she depended on the powerful mystical artifact known as the Alicorn Amulet to amp up her magic power in her bid for revenge against Twilight for showing her up previously. Without that amulet to artificially amplify her magic, Trixie would never have been able to best or even compete with Twilight. Twilight and Starlight both far surpass Trixie in magical power and skill. Even Sunset Shimmer is more magically gifted than Trixie and I could also argue that Sunset is possibly a descendant of Starswirl, barring the obvious differences in her physical appearance. Season 6 of MLP will no doubt flesh out Starlight's background even more and I have a strong feeling the writers have some interesting details about her to reveal in the future and i wouldn't be the least bit surprised if they decide to make Starlight a canon descendant of the great and legendary wizard, Starswirl the Bearded.
+EdofJville Simply stated, Trixie may just not be "fully developed" yet, in terms of magical maturity. (Something that we've seen is possible even with a gifted Unicorn such as filly Twilight) Seeing that Trixie has not been given the opportunity to hone her magical skills, yet she still possesses great, natural abilities (even if mostly used as cheap, parlor tricks) I find it extremely easy to believe that she is his descendant. If given the proper guidance, she could easily grow to be on Starlight's level, and eventually Twilight's herself. :)
dude.... at first I was just going to say "hey maybe he's a Billy goat, you don't really see or think beard when you think pony" as kinda a joke. but that made so much sense!
OK I GOT A IDEA! You know doctor whooves? What if starswearled was like the master from doctor who? And the reason he looks different is cause he is in a different body? And doctor whooves banished him? (You might not understand unless you watch Doctor Who)
Doctor Who? Nah, Starswirl is more like James Bond, Agent 007, or just like any Hasbro pony name. The Secret Agent name and number that is given to a wide variety of people.
thank you soo much conspirapon3 i was trying to get this theory out there that trixie is and maby related to starswerl through being her great great granmpa thanks for getting this out there your awsome!!!!!!!!!!
I believe that discord is starswirl. Remember when twilight casted his spell that ended up changing the mane 6's cutie marks? Well what would happen if a pony without friends like that casted the spell? I think doing this, he transformed his body into discord's. With his new form, ponies became afraid, so he ran away to live in a place where no ponies would be, the chaos realm. There, with nothing to do, he could've picked up a thing or two, so he returned to have some fun with Equestria. And when twilight and Cadence went to the starswirl fair, why do you think discord came up with that crazy sickness and tried to keep them away from the fair? Their heads are even similar colours. So far, all the evidence points to starswirl and discord being the same person. What do you think?
Sorry to ruin your theory, but if Starswirl was Discord, then Celestia and Luna would most likely know this and did something about the chaos in his first appearance.
+TheDorkyPegasister Yes, but as the brony notion said, perhaps nobody put two and two together and just assumed Star swirl disappeared, Discord appeared, and nothing more.
Sigh, I am from the future and we now have a few episodes with Star Swirl the bearded and i can tell you that to my disappointment Beatrix Lulamoon (The Great and Powerful Trixie) is not him descendant, but due to being a Pillar of Harmony would explain his disappearance... oh wait I said too much. I will not talk any more on this subject. The course of history for the next four years must stay in tact. love the video and my new head-canon btw.
I just found your channel and that was a really great theory. They finally have Starswirl’s apparence revealed about 2 years after this video but that makes a way better explanation for why Starswirl didn’t exist than the show when they finally got to it.
I like the Trixie theory. It makes a lot of sense. On the topic of starswirl's looks, if we're taking the comics into account, I'd say that (if we're going by the theory that flashbacks in the comics are illustrated as the character telling the story remembers it) Tia's version of SSTB is likely the correct one, because it looks almost identical to how SSTB looked when Queen Chrysalis was telling the story of her creation. Therefore, we can assume that since Chrysi and Tia likely haven't had opportunity to sit down and compare notes, he likely existed, and if the illustration is how they remember him, they both remember him looking almost identical. As a secondary point, the depections from Tia and Queen Chrysalis are fairly similar to what Twilight's costume looked like, at least in terms of the beard and the hat both, which Luna also confirmed was reasonably accurate.
You sir, have blown my mind once again. Trixie could be Star Swirls descendant. Going back to the idea that Star Swirl was a changeling, that would also help explain his transformation into Discord. Perhaps, he was half changeling/half pony, the child of Chrysalis and Sombre. The ideas that could be explored are astounding.
Starswirl is a girl? Could it be that Trixie travelled into the past or is a descendant of her? Note that Clover the Clever is implied to be male (see Clever Clover), despite being played by a female (aka Twiligt Sparkle).
ok so, what confuses me the most is: he is in the show, and he doesn't have yellow eyes, he doesn't have red eyes, he doesn't have purple eyes, but he has blue eyes.
pink hair sunbut has been explained before,By the comics and LUNA after she is broken free by the mane 6 of the whole nightmare thing,The Hair color is a Low power form,saying basical pink hair sunbut is Low power before elamirts of harminty sun but
I actually love that idea and it would make sense. she knows to much as an avenge pony. Trixy has more knowledge of magic without bounds. but exactly does her knowledge come if Twilight knowledge come from her study of books.
Saw the punchline coming, but that's actually been my headcanon for a while. Her actions and personality are fitting to her idea of her lineage. As a side note, it may be possible that Starswirl is a historian's creation, an amalgam of various individuals. This has happened in human history, where several individuals in the same time frame blended into one historical "person." Might Starswirl be the combine works of several different ponies? Not even limited to unicorns, as I've a sneaking suspicion that Starswirl's spells are not his only contribution.
Trixie : TRIXIE , THE GREAT AND POWERFUL - random pony : oh , shut up , we all know - Starswirl : Trixie ! my grandaughter ! how's it going ? your magic workin' fine ? random pony : * gasp * OMG
Hi @ConspiraPon3 If you're running out of ideas, I've got a bit of a mystery I need you to solve! So in the episode Slice of Life, Doctor Hooves was confirmed to be a cannon pony, and not just a background clone. In the episode Amending Fences, the same is true for Minuette. Now, normally this wouldn't be a problem, but the Doctor and Minuette have THE EXACT SAME CUTIE MARK. This means multiple ponies having the same cutie mark is confirmed. But I thought a cutie mark was a mark of each ponies UNIQUE special talent!! How on Equestrian Earth could two ponies as different as Doctor Hooves and Minuette have the exact same cutie mark?? This must mean either something's special about those two ponies, or a large part of what we "know" about cutie marks is wrong. Thanks! If you decide to use this I hope you come up with something :D
+Psyanari SaysThings Lol The entirety of Season Five pretty much confirmed your idea that we know little about the fickleness of Cutie Mark magic :P I was expecting to see something definitive by the finale, but all it pretty much confirmed is that everyone is important and plays their own unique role to the harmony of the greater picture. I think a cutie mark is less about declaring one's own uniqueness, so much as it is showcasing what they're good at. Thus while Minuette and Doctor Whooves may be completely different, they share a talent relating to a specific thing. (In this case, Hourglasses and anything they can metaphorically stand for)
Dear Psyanari SayThings: I, a little known (i don't post vids, ehhhh) theorist, have an answer. DO U KNOW HOW MANY FRIKIN PONIES EXIST IN EQUESTRIA? Minuette and Doc were both background ponies. If Aj and Dash had the same cutie mark or Twi and a background pony, then it'd matter. I assume it's an error, whether mentally (forgetting who has what cutie mark, not IQ error, memory) or animation, its an error.
Thomas Riley im not an expert in mlp or how it works but maybe simewhere in the line there was a mutation in the family tree of Star Swirl. Something that changed the look perhaps?
We are all cousins to each other. But yes, both Twilight Sparkle and Trixie seemed to be closer in lineage to Princess Luna than Princess Celestia. That being said, both Princesses never had any baby.
Yes they do have fur... If you recall the very first episode of MLP Twilight ran away from Raritys after saying "let's get out of here before she decided to dye my coat another colour" or something like that
Your theory of possibly that "The Great and Powerful Trixie Lulumoon, could be a descent of Starswirl. Though she is a Show pony. She could have a bit of inherent knowledge of her past that she tries to explore, but either does not remember or was never taught from her parents, or grandparents. With the help of Starlight Glimmer as her "Show/Magic" assistant, Trixie could emensely improve her Magic skills and possibly jog her past relatives knowledge of Magic.
I'm not saying I do or don't agree, but the idea seems very interesting. If would ever actually be brought up in the show it would easily make my favorite episode.
The Hearth's Warming Eve play implied Starswirl the Bearded is an alternate persona of Clover the Clever (see Clever Clover), or history later separated him into two. Then there's the blasphemy known as 'Discord is/was Starswirl'. Interestingly, Starswirl is one of the few patriarchs of the show, and even he is a relatively unknown character. It's as if the show is just lacking a regular strong male character who is… not dragon. Fluttershy seemed to originally implied as a crossdresser though, but now Fluttershy's character is indeed a girl. Because only a girl can be that mean.
It's something. It would be nice to see another facet to Trixie other than "I am The Great and Powerful Trixie!" Also, Uncle Sam was a real person. The man whose likeness is used lived around the War of 1812, when the posters were first created. I think he helped give meat to the army, but I don't remember correctly.
Have you ever wondered why the Everfree Forest operates independently of Pony interference? Why ponies are so creeped out by a place that operates completely naturally in our world? A place that doesn't need to ponies to manipulate it in order to grow and have its weather change? A place that holds magical ponds, ponies of shadow, and who knows what other secrets.. Why would the princesses choose such an ominous place to build their castle? Almost sounds like it was a place of some significant event.. Perhaps, something cataclysmic.. Sounds like a place that needs some additional study, eh? ;)
I think there could be an infinite possibilities to to who are descendants of Star Swirl. I mean think about it it was at least 1000 years and say if he did have a family (on the show 1-3 children if not more). Over the span of a few Generations they could be any breed / color.So with the information that I could gather I believe Trixie, Starlight Glimmer (knowing one of his spells ) and Pinkie Pie(could explain her knowledge on everything and Luna said she has a similar personality in the comics.)
I think starswirl tunred into king sombra because when he turned evil and fled to the north like that part of a comic he looked sort of like king sombra and boy am I rambling on and on.....
Then what happened to his BEARD? and why is sombra A FLIPPIN BLANKFLANK (Omg yes, stop ranting, I know, but the comics arent cannon, so shadow ponies are not cannon YET, i haven't seen season 7)
Well that's disproven in the season 6 finale starswirl and the pony of shadows (not sombra) gets taken out of limbo by twilight after he sent the pony of shadows to limbo with him
I think it is as simple as that no one knows, like that graffiti artist that no one know if THEY are a boy or girl,in fact three different newspapers published " interviews " with them but then realized that more that one had published that on the same morning,so they don't know if they were fake or if one was real and the others weren't
My guess is either the pony at 7:36 or the pony at 7:37 who are both blue with a star/ magic related cutie mark. Personally my favorite one is the pony at 7:37 I just like the idea of a descendant of Starswirl looking like that :D
OR MAYYBE THE *GREATEST WIZARD OF ALL TIME* WAS *MAGICAL* AND CHANGED APPEARANCE SOMETIMES. OR *MAYYYBE* he sometimes changed appearance when sapped because he wasnt as healthy. Or maybe he decided to change his look. GOSH I'm sorry if this sounds like I'm hating I actually love this channel
Maybe it was just like the dread pirate roberts. And when me and my sis were analyzing the shadow of the Pony of Shadows from season four, we were thinking that it was either Trixie or Starswirl. That is when we noticed the similarities;
Consider this, mortals. Starswirl was a secret society of mysterious bearded unicorns with some interest in time travel and the dimensions who all just happened to have similar butt tattoos. That is my theory.
it would be awesome if in one episode Trixie steals one of twilight's books and time travels to meet star swirl because she wanted to meet a relative so i approve of this theory
Remember coat color do not always match their families color. PINKIE Pie! The two adults are brown and dark gray. Her sister muad is silver-gray, marble is blueish gray, and the other is whitish. While pinkie is hot pink! And twilight is another buck to the family coat color too. Father= blueish mother= tan grayish. Shining armor pale white! Twilight sparkle dark purple. By this logic Starlight glimmer, sunset shimmer, trixie and Twilight are all possible choice. However cutie marks may be the only clue. And that one takes out starlight glimmer.
I think it would be really cool if Trixie was Star Swirl's descendant cause of that last theory
Yes yes it would
definetley
YES YES YES!
It would make sense
I think your last theory of Trixie being a desendant of Starswirl the Bearded is very logical. Would you mind if I wrote a fanfiction based on your FANtastic theory?
+Mini Tater Productions (Haylee Minix)
Please do!
yay! i will do it on wattpad. i will start on it tomorrow! my wattpad is nerdswag2014
I would like to see that
+Mini Tater Productions (Haylee Minix) I have wattpad too! im ganna read that fic!
yay i will start in a few days
I actually love the idea of this theory! I hope hasbro uses this for an episode one cuz id love to see that. Or even just to see starswirl interact with or teach trixie would be nice to see
Same. I love seeing fans theories become proven and become canon
I agree it makes a lot of sense for Trixie to be a descendant of a wizard she seems so keen on proving she is an all great and powerful unicorn all shes really trying to do is prove her to her relatives that she can do what they probably do
I like this idea. It would really explain Trixie's need to pump her self up.
Finally!!! Thank you! I've been saying that Trixie is Starswirl's descendant for years.
Laughs in 5 years later*
Respectively Rest In Peace headcanons, theories and analyses. Cause of death: mlp season 9
Starlight Glimmer is a much stronger candidate for being a descendant of Starswirl than Trixie. She has a strong, seemingly natural raw magical power and a talent for spell casting rivaling that of even an alicorn like Princess Twilight. As we saw in the season 5 finale, Twilight could not defeat Starlight in a pure fight as they were evenly matched and had to force Starlight to see the consequences of her time-altering actions in actuality and reason with her in order to finally put a stop to her madness.
Add to all of this the fact that Starlight with little effort was able to finish Starswirl's time travel spell and her ability to remove individual ponies' cutie marks as she did in the town in the season 5 premier and the circumstantial evidence just keeps piling up in favor of her being a direct descendant. Her physical appearance, magically inclined cutie mark, and even her name, Starlight Glimmer, all point towards an affinity and destiny centering on magic as a focal point.
As for Trixie, she was never shown to be more than a traveling illusionist/magician who in actuality never possessed strong or impressive magical abilities of any kind. In fact, upon her return to Ponyville, she depended on the powerful mystical artifact known as the Alicorn Amulet to amp up her magic power in her bid for revenge against Twilight for showing her up previously. Without that amulet to artificially amplify her magic, Trixie would never have been able to best or even compete with Twilight.
Twilight and Starlight both far surpass Trixie in magical power and skill. Even Sunset Shimmer is more magically gifted than Trixie and I could also argue that Sunset is possibly a descendant of Starswirl, barring the obvious differences in her physical appearance.
Season 6 of MLP will no doubt flesh out Starlight's background even more and I have a strong feeling the writers have some interesting details about her to reveal in the future and i wouldn't be the least bit surprised if they decide to make Starlight a canon descendant of the great and legendary wizard, Starswirl the Bearded.
+EdofJville Simply stated, Trixie may just not be "fully developed" yet, in terms of magical maturity. (Something that we've seen is possible even with a gifted Unicorn such as filly Twilight)
Seeing that Trixie has not been given the opportunity to hone her magical skills, yet she still possesses great, natural abilities (even if mostly used as cheap, parlor tricks) I find it extremely easy to believe that she is his descendant. If given the proper guidance, she could easily grow to be on Starlight's level, and eventually Twilight's herself. :)
dude.... at first I was just going to say "hey maybe he's a Billy goat, you don't really see or think beard when you think pony" as kinda a joke.
but that made so much sense!
I love the idea of Trixie being Starswirled's decendent. it does make sense.
OK I GOT A IDEA!
You know doctor whooves? What if starswearled was like the master from doctor who? And the reason he looks different is cause he is in a different body? And doctor whooves banished him? (You might not understand unless you watch Doctor Who)
Doctor Who? Nah, Starswirl is more like James Bond, Agent 007, or just like any Hasbro pony name.
The Secret Agent name and number that is given to a wide variety of people.
thank you soo much conspirapon3 i was trying to get this theory out there that trixie is and maby related to starswerl through being her great great granmpa thanks for getting this out there your awsome!!!!!!!!!!
THIS MAKES SO MUCH SENSE yet no sense at the same time
I knew it!!! When you said lets look for a pony that has blue skin, white hair and yellow/purple eyes, I KNEW IT WAS TRIXIE
ConspiraPon3: But we are all americans on the inside.
Me,a Brit: so that explains my American accent despite never going to America.
Excellent analysis, and yes, I also believe that Trixie is related to Starswirl. Mostly because I love how ironic it is.
I believe that discord is starswirl. Remember when twilight casted his spell that ended up changing the mane 6's cutie marks? Well what would happen if a pony without friends like that casted the spell? I think doing this, he transformed his body into discord's. With his new form, ponies became afraid, so he ran away to live in a place where no ponies would be, the chaos realm. There, with nothing to do, he could've picked up a thing or two, so he returned to have some fun with Equestria. And when twilight and Cadence went to the starswirl fair, why do you think discord came up with that crazy sickness and tried to keep them away from the fair? Their heads are even similar colours. So far, all the evidence points to starswirl and discord being the same person. What do you think?
Sorry to ruin your theory, but if Starswirl was Discord, then Celestia and Luna would most likely know this and did something about the chaos in his first appearance.
+TheDorkyPegasister Yes, but as the brony notion said, perhaps nobody put two and two together and just assumed Star swirl disappeared, Discord appeared, and nothing more.
totally like I mean its crazy but aren't there skin tones alike?
But why would Starswirl do that? I just don't understand.
+TheDorkyPegasister do what? You're going to have to be a little more specific.
Sigh, I am from the future and we now have a few episodes with Star Swirl the bearded and i can tell you that to my disappointment Beatrix Lulamoon (The Great and Powerful Trixie) is not him descendant, but due to being a Pillar of Harmony would explain his disappearance... oh wait I said too much. I will not talk any more on this subject. The course of history for the next four years must stay in tact. love the video and my new head-canon btw.
I just found your channel and that was a really great theory. They finally have Starswirl’s apparence revealed about 2 years after this video but that makes a way better explanation for why Starswirl didn’t exist than the show when they finally got to it.
you broke me. this made my head blow up.
I like the Trixie theory. It makes a lot of sense.
On the topic of starswirl's looks, if we're taking the comics into account, I'd say that (if we're going by the theory that flashbacks in the comics are illustrated as the character telling the story remembers it) Tia's version of SSTB is likely the correct one, because it looks almost identical to how SSTB looked when Queen Chrysalis was telling the story of her creation. Therefore, we can assume that since Chrysi and Tia likely haven't had opportunity to sit down and compare notes, he likely existed, and if the illustration is how they remember him, they both remember him looking almost identical.
As a secondary point, the depections from Tia and Queen Chrysalis are fairly similar to what Twilight's costume looked like, at least in terms of the beard and the hat both, which Luna also confirmed was reasonably accurate.
Bro...it makes SO MUCH SENSE NOW!!!!
Love how at season 9 he's revealed 😂😂😂 and lives in equestria
You sir, have blown my mind once again. Trixie could be Star Swirls descendant. Going back to the idea that Star Swirl was a changeling, that would also help explain his transformation into Discord. Perhaps, he was half changeling/half pony, the child of Chrysalis and Sombre. The ideas that could be explored are astounding.
Defiantly something worth considering.
This is an awsome theory.
But again, all your theories are awsome.
MY MIND HAS BEEN BLOWN!
Funny how they showed him as a grey unicorn with blue eyes
..Man. I flipped my laptop over (not really XD) when I saw the Trixie thing. HOW WAS I SO BLIND THIS WHOLE TIME?!?!? XDD
EXACTLY.
He is real, cause of the fact when princess sun butt and Princess Luna where little he was the one who raised the moon and sun.
sun butt XD
+The unknown pegersister first we got sun butt, then we got moon butt, then we got heart butt, then we got star butt, and now we got sun butt 2.0
+Sweet1002 AJ who is sun butt 2.0?
+delfoxa sunset shimmer
Ps THE comics
#MINDBLOWN. BUT, there IS a mare named Starswirl! Star related cutiemark, blue coat, but pink mane!
Starswirl is a girl? Could it be that Trixie travelled into the past or is a descendant of her?
Note that Clover the Clever is implied to be male (see Clever Clover), despite being played by a female (aka Twiligt Sparkle).
I think you need to do another one of theses bc he is in mlp season 8 episode 16
ok so, what confuses me the most is: he is in the show, and he doesn't have yellow eyes, he doesn't have red eyes, he doesn't have purple eyes, but he has blue eyes.
This video came out a long time ago
00:50
It's called "coat".
Horse fur.
pink hair sunbut has been explained before,By the comics and LUNA after she is broken free by the mane 6 of the whole nightmare thing,The Hair color is a Low power form,saying basical pink hair sunbut is Low power before elamirts of harminty sun but
It's funny to see this on 2020 😂😂
That was bucking amazing. I wish that becomes true. I'd love to see Trixie actually be Great and Powerful.
Star Swirl the Bearded = Santa Claus
WHAT!!! OMC this is a great idea!
Agree,Disagree or a man analyzing kids cartoons
Trixie being a direct descendant of Star Swirled is something I've been supporting for a while now!
Couldn't either of Twilight's parents also pass as described? That'd certainly explain twilight's enormous magic powers even from a young age
I'm in the future and yes star swirl did show up
Season 5 finale: EVEN HIS SPELL JUST WENT BACK A WEEK.
I never actually thought that Trixie could be Starspswirl's descendent, but now that I think about it, it actually makes sense.
I like the thought that Starlight Glimmer or Trixie is his greatest grandchildren.
Im watching this is 2018, and yes, he shows up in the show.
I actually love that idea and it would make sense. she knows to much as an avenge pony. Trixy has more knowledge of magic without bounds. but exactly does her knowledge come if Twilight knowledge come from her study of books.
Saw the punchline coming, but that's actually been my headcanon for a while. Her actions and personality are fitting to her idea of her lineage.
As a side note, it may be possible that Starswirl is a historian's creation, an amalgam of various individuals. This has happened in human history, where several individuals in the same time frame blended into one historical "person." Might Starswirl be the combine works of several different ponies? Not even limited to unicorns, as I've a sneaking suspicion that Starswirl's spells are not his only contribution.
Trixie being a descendant of Starswirl..? 404 brain not found.
1:41 was that a psychostick lyric I heard? "the dumb song" I hear? awesome sauce! xD
Ding Ding we have a winner!
Well he now is back with 5 legendary ponies and an important but overlooked pony
Trixie : TRIXIE , THE GREAT AND POWERFUL -
random pony : oh , shut up , we all know -
Starswirl : Trixie ! my grandaughter ! how's it going ? your magic workin' fine ?
random pony : * gasp * OMG
... Every, EVERY, child movie... has a story behind it... so im with you (btw, srry, my english is bad)
It seems impossible that TRIXIE of all ponies would be Star Swirl's descendant, but at the same time, it feels logical and it makes sense.
Hi @ConspiraPon3
If you're running out of ideas, I've got a bit of a mystery I need you to solve!
So in the episode Slice of Life, Doctor Hooves was confirmed to be a cannon pony, and not just a background clone. In the episode Amending Fences, the same is true for Minuette.
Now, normally this wouldn't be a problem, but the Doctor and Minuette have THE EXACT SAME CUTIE MARK.
This means multiple ponies having the same cutie mark is confirmed. But I thought a cutie mark was a mark of each ponies UNIQUE special talent!! How on Equestrian Earth could two ponies as different as Doctor Hooves and Minuette have the exact same cutie mark??
This must mean either something's special about those two ponies, or a large part of what we "know" about cutie marks is wrong.
Thanks! If you decide to use this I hope you come up with something :D
* Hi ConspiraPon3
not Hi @ConspiraPon3
Whoops xD
+Psyanari SaysThings Lol The entirety of Season Five pretty much confirmed your idea that we know little about the fickleness of Cutie Mark magic :P I was expecting to see something definitive by the finale, but all it pretty much confirmed is that everyone is important and plays their own unique role to the harmony of the greater picture.
I think a cutie mark is less about declaring one's own uniqueness, so much as it is showcasing what they're good at. Thus while Minuette and Doctor Whooves may be completely different, they share a talent relating to a specific thing. (In this case, Hourglasses and anything they can metaphorically stand for)
Regeneration.
Dear Psyanari SayThings:
I, a little known (i don't post vids, ehhhh) theorist, have an answer.
DO U KNOW HOW MANY FRIKIN PONIES EXIST IN EQUESTRIA? Minuette and Doc were both background ponies. If Aj and Dash had the same cutie mark or Twi and a background pony, then it'd matter. I assume it's an error, whether mentally (forgetting who has what cutie mark, not IQ error, memory) or animation, its an error.
wow. i agree. of course, there is not 100% solid canon information to back up the theory of Trixie being related to Starswirl.
It's possible that Twilight and Trixie are both relatives, possibly with Twilight being a descendant of his cousin or sibling.
Or Starswirls assistant ^^
Thomas Riley im not an expert in mlp or how it works but maybe simewhere in the line there was a mutation in the family tree of Star Swirl. Something that changed the look perhaps?
We are all cousins to each other.
But yes, both Twilight Sparkle and Trixie seemed to be closer in lineage to Princess Luna than Princess Celestia. That being said, both Princesses never had any baby.
Yes they do have fur... If you recall the very first episode of MLP Twilight ran away from Raritys after saying "let's get out of here before she decided to dye my coat another colour" or something like that
celestia dressed up as star swirl and luna was in on it and they used the elements to make the sirens go maybe even to make the portal
Your theory of possibly that "The Great and Powerful Trixie Lulumoon, could be a descent of Starswirl. Though she is a Show pony. She could have a bit of inherent knowledge of her past that she tries to explore, but either does not remember or was never taught from her parents, or grandparents. With the help of Starlight Glimmer as her "Show/Magic" assistant, Trixie could emensely improve her Magic skills and possibly jog her past relatives knowledge of Magic.
I came up with that same theory about Trixie being a decedent of starswirl, so cool someone else thought of it!
I'm not saying I do or don't agree, but the idea seems very interesting. If would ever actually be brought up in the show it would easily make my favorite episode.
The Hearth's Warming Eve play implied Starswirl the Bearded is an alternate persona of Clover the Clever (see Clever Clover), or history later separated him into two.
Then there's the blasphemy known as 'Discord is/was Starswirl'.
Interestingly, Starswirl is one of the few patriarchs of the show, and even he is a relatively unknown character.
It's as if the show is just lacking a regular strong male character who is… not dragon.
Fluttershy seemed to originally implied as a crossdresser though, but now Fluttershy's character is indeed a girl. Because only a girl can be that mean.
FLUTTERSCOUT: ... I.. that's.. what ... no ... thoughts... coherent... wtf....... FLUTTERSCOUT'S BROTHER: you broke his brain....
I like that theory it makes sense since we have never heard of trixies parents or any family
It's something. It would be nice to see another facet to Trixie other than "I am The Great and Powerful Trixie!"
Also, Uncle Sam was a real person. The man whose likeness is used lived around the War of 1812, when the posters were first created. I think he helped give meat to the army, but I don't remember correctly.
Star Swirl the bearded is shown in the episode shadow play, in fact, he is one of the main focus
Have you ever wondered why the Everfree Forest operates independently of Pony interference? Why ponies are so creeped out by a place that operates completely naturally in our world?
A place that doesn't need to ponies to manipulate it in order to grow and have its weather change? A place that holds magical ponds, ponies of shadow, and who knows what other secrets.. Why would the princesses choose such an ominous place to build their castle? Almost sounds like it was a place of some significant event.. Perhaps, something cataclysmic..
Sounds like a place that needs some additional study, eh? ;)
I think there could be an infinite possibilities to to who are descendants of Star Swirl. I mean think about it it was at least 1000 years and say if he did have a family (on the show 1-3 children if not more). Over the span of a few Generations they could be any breed / color.So with the information that I could gather I believe Trixie, Starlight Glimmer (knowing one of his spells ) and Pinkie Pie(could explain her knowledge on everything and Luna said she has a similar personality in the comics.)
I hope my comment makes sense it's hard to type on my phone. Also to proofread as I go.
I think starswirl tunred into king sombra because when he turned evil and fled to the north like that part of a comic he looked sort of like king sombra and boy am I rambling on and on.....
did you read Issues 34-37 yet? if you didn't, read it. cuz Sombra aren't Starswirl, and he is a different race.
hmmm... king sombra makes more sense than discord....
Bunnybear71582 plays Discord is Starswirl?
Then what happened to his BEARD? and why is sombra A FLIPPIN BLANKFLANK (Omg yes, stop ranting, I know, but the comics arent cannon, so shadow ponies are not cannon YET, i haven't seen season 7)
I think that your theory of Trixie being a descendant of Starswirl is pretty good.
Actually I think Star Swirl the Bearded never existed and Celestia and Luna made it up and lied about it
Well that's disproven in the season 6 finale starswirl and the pony of shadows (not sombra) gets taken out of limbo by twilight after he sent the pony of shadows to limbo with him
I think it is as simple as that no one knows, like that graffiti artist that no one know if THEY are a boy or girl,in fact three different newspapers published " interviews " with them but then realized that more that one had published that on the same morning,so they don't know if they were fake or if one was real and the others weren't
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My guess is either the pony at 7:36 or the pony at 7:37 who are both blue with a star/ magic related cutie mark. Personally my favorite one is the pony at 7:37 I just like the idea of a descendant of Starswirl looking like that :D
Okay WAIT Trixe the GREAT AND POWERFUL (and conceded!)... I like the idea of her being related to Star swirl!
Another mindblowing theory my friend
Wow. This makes a lot of sense... At least the last part,about Trixie being Starswirl's descendant
+Anastasia Hunt I absolutely agree.
OR MAYYBE THE *GREATEST WIZARD OF ALL TIME* WAS *MAGICAL* AND CHANGED APPEARANCE SOMETIMES. OR *MAYYYBE* he sometimes changed appearance when sapped because he wasnt as healthy. Or maybe he decided to change his look. GOSH I'm sorry if this sounds like I'm hating I actually love this channel
trixie being the decendent of starswirl would be sooooooo cool
I think you just blew my mind, that or I've been out of the fandom too long.
Maybe it was just like the dread pirate roberts.
And when me and my sis were analyzing the shadow of the Pony of Shadows from season four, we were thinking that it was either Trixie or Starswirl. That is when we noticed the similarities;
Consider this, mortals. Starswirl was a secret society of mysterious bearded unicorns with some interest in time travel and the dimensions who all just happened to have similar butt tattoos. That is my theory.
Me when I see the thumbnail of this video: DUMBLEDORRREEE 😖😫😩😣😭😭😭😭 WHYYY SNAAAPE
OMFG *MIND EXPLODES* YOU ARE AMAZING!!!
Finally, someone who agrees with me.... About Trixy I mean.
it would be awesome if in one episode Trixie steals one of twilight's books and time travels to meet star swirl because she wanted to meet a relative so i approve of this theory
I agree it does add up to me.Deffenetly makes sense to me.
I agree with your theory, it was very good and very well explained that..
MLP IS ILLUMILATE CONFIRMED
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...I hear by accept this as my head cannon hooohaaa!
*screams* FFFFF OH MY GAWD THESE ARE SO GOOD
"The 'GREAT', and 'POWERFUL', TTTTRRRRIIIXXXXY!"
You could say he lives in 2019....
He searches StarSwirl up in 2019
Him: Holly Crap I was wrong
Hm. Food for thought. This requires research of all canon materials. TO THE BOOKS, COMICS, AND EPISODES!
As a wise pinkie once said and I quote 'my fringe has been braked!' In other words omg this is so fudging Ausome
Maybe you can find correlations between how Celestia's premonitions are similar to a Jedi's foresight.
lol - even more off the wall ... Trixie isn't a descendant .. but either IS Star Swirl (in disguise) or his time travelling mother :P
Remember coat color do not always match their families color. PINKIE Pie! The two adults are brown and dark gray. Her sister muad is silver-gray, marble is blueish gray, and the other is whitish. While pinkie is hot pink! And twilight is another buck to the family coat color too. Father= blueish mother= tan grayish. Shining armor pale white! Twilight sparkle dark purple. By this logic Starlight glimmer, sunset shimmer, trixie and Twilight are all possible choice. However cutie marks may be the only clue. And that one takes out starlight glimmer.
thank you for robbing me of my sleep
The conspiracy that never was