Change the way you drill the holes for the small dowel to a hole 1/2 through the top and just a little into the bottom piece, change the dowel to a bb and grab a magnet. That would be a secret lock.
I have done some woodworks in the past but this woodwork plan ruclips.net/user/postUgkxZF0EMnrujZvqHhGkxiz559uIABJWR9TG helps me do much in a far lesser time than i used to do i have already built several projects with this plan and i intend to do many more soon. Thank you so much!
You could attach a foot to the secret dowel if you change around the schematics. Then you could attach a foot over the pivot dowel and two more feet on the remaining corners. With the box oriented upside down, you could router the edges and cut a false seam line and attach false hinges to the seam line on one of the long sides of the box.Then it would be even more confusing to someone who doesn't know the secret to opening the box.
Very good! Anything to disguise the "secret" pin. I'd make the feet you described all able to rotate - tightly, but without any limit - and add a little limb sticking out perpendicular to the inner end of the key pin so it only comes out at a certain angle. If you can make a maze out of it, it will only come out if you rotate and move in and out in a particular sequence. The other feet have decoy mazes to make it more confuzing.
James please remember that there is children that watch these things so please watch your mouth. My comment. The dust that comes from the wood you are cutting with the band saw take and stain them with some regular food coloring. Now mix with some regular white glue wrought out some spaces here and there to create inlays. Stain the box and after it is stained add the custom putty to the cracks and crevices and routed areas allow to dry and sand. Clear shellac and viola a super Cool inlay box. And as always keep up the great work i'm defiantly making one of these:) PS: Making for my Foot Ball Memorabilia on a large scale. Nice and Thanks:)
How to open the UnaBox. 1. Take a match and a match box 2. Put the match on fire 3. Light the UnaBox on fire 4. Take water and pour it on the UnaBox and any other things that are on fire. 5. Enjoy the ruined secret inside!
Dude I have that same exact secret box that you have show in the beginning of your video. It was gave to me by a friend several years ago and yours is the only other like it I have seen!!! Cool!
Rather than using that tape measure thing he used, it would be much easier to simply print out the pattern, cover your board in painters tape then glue the pattern to the taped board and cut it on a scroll saw. Probably the way it was intended, judging from the plans. You will most likely end up with cleaner lines and none of the gaps this guy had. The pieces should fit together much more nicely.
You could tinker with this concept a little and make it even cooler. With not much effort, that tiny wooden dowel could become a button, and with some creative decorating, it can disappear among a hundred other little dots all over the box. Some shallow grooves would help camouflage that diagonal joint as well. Fun!
I made this one time, it was pretty cool. Before I added the lid, I drilled a vertical 1/8" hole and glued a 1/8" diameter dowel into the height of each corner just to add to the stabilization and connectivity of the corners in the box.
this is the greatest thing kipkay made. bevause its easy and anyone can do it. i mean me. cause i cant do electronics i just dont know basics. but here just download print ( first google sketch up for mesuring and then print) get pices do some woodjob and whola. its done. no electronics no expensive bullshit. just wood and some paper. thanks kipkay
I don't, but I believe to have some skills in working with materials and common sense though. You just need a little of vinyl glue diluted with water. It is strong enough to keep the paper adherent while cutting but not too much to prevent to remove it with a moistened scrubbing sponge. Or just slightly engrave the perimeter with an awl, utility knife or a small screwdriver.
cover wood with masking tape or painters tape then apply a spray glue put paper pattern on. when done cutting tape peels right off leaving perfect wood underneath. I'm guessing you guys have never done intricate scroll saw work before.
Tomas Kerslake-sweeney if your wearing gloves and they catch in the blade your hands will get pulled in and sliced up. Gloves and fingers are a lot softer than wood and steel if it's designed to cut wood you can guarantee it'll cut the glove just the same.
because the wood against good friction would be too much, unless you were to make the hole slightly bigger but then the dowel might fall out of range of a magnet. You'd probably want a way to stop that happen , perhaps making the hole in the lower lid a dimple instead and the pin just sits in there. If the dimple wasn't deep enough , it wouldn't effect the opening of the box.
Tension won't hold it since if one end is glued, the dowel is also functioning as a bearing. The correct way to fix the design would be to cut a groove around the dowel, then drill a hole at 90 degrees for a dowel that will go into groove and act as a retainer.
I was on a plane a couple days ago (September 15, 2016 going to Winnipeg, MB, Canada from Edmonton, AB, Canada), and someone that was sitting close to me looked exactly like you.
if you drill the hole for the small wood peg all the way through, you can just push down through the box and replace it after retrieving it from the inside
If you have the tools to do so, hollow out the small dowel that needs to be removed and put a piece of a paper clip in it. Then you can remove it with a magnet
Another option to add is to using a magnet on the bottom of the small dowel, so you can make it flush with the top and than by adding a more decorative pattern to the top you can add a "camo" effect to disguise its presence. Then, you can just use another magnet, or metal, to retrieve the dowel from its spot.
@TheGUN2000 And if someone wants inside your house, but the door is locked, they can just break a window. This isn't Fort Knox. It's just a fun little kind-of-a-puzzle box.
I have a slight mod. You could use a piece of magnetic metal instead of the smaller pin. Then, you'd need a magnet to get it out, though the problem with that is: It's kind of hard to make metal look like wood.
If you have one, the original PS2 (Not the slim) has a "Secret compartment" That was meant for a mod or something. You open up one of the pannels (Don't need a screwdriver or anything) there's just a very big empty space behind it. Useless for anything other than a secret draw... Or at least a draw in the last place you'd expect there to be a draw.
I described the wooden equivalent of a c-clip if you understood what I wrote. Without a retainer the box falls apart, "tension" doesn't cut it. You have to glue the lid to the dowel, and design in a retainer, obviously the dowel would require a groove all the way around so the pin or c-clip can retain it, and it can also rotate, Get it? Neither did the unadesigner.
@AwesomeAllen00 good idea. it'd be cool to conceal the hole, and the magnet will lift the pin enough so the top layer can pivot out, but anyone who does not know about the magnet or location has no idea where the pin is. (if that makes any sense)
@haji228 It seems they're only their for structural/style purposes. It would seem possible to simply make a regular box, as long as you have the top notch on one of the sides for the locking mechanism.
How about drilling lots of small holes in the lid and tapping in dowels, maybe in a pattern. They would disguise the dowel you need to pull out. Good finish on this one, like it!
I'd like to make something like this, only with an Arduino on the inside and a solenoid to open a latch. Maybe hook up a reed switch to a long-lasting battery pack so you can turn it on with a magnet, then have it look for an RFID tag
Make the small pin made out of metal with tiny sliver of a wood top that matches the wood cover flawlessly, then it would require a magnet to open it! Even cooler! Could even conceal a magnet between fingers or magnetic ring
No, the box is defective by design, there's nothing to keep the large dowel from coming out. Back to the drawing board. I can design a way better box, maybe I will. I am thinking a ball bearing in a non seen maze will have to be manipulated into a certain spot via precise (memorized) combination of tilts before the lid can open, (to summarize the concept)
How about attatching a decorative "whatever" to the small dowel so that way it's not as "obvious" something like a flower or something, that way you don't have to leave the dowel raised enough for your finger nails.
I love all of these projects, but this one just seems unpolished to me. The Large dowel and small dowel are too obvious! Add some more large and small dowels all over the top of the box as decoys. A trickier way would be to use a hidden spring-loaded plunger-pin-latch in place of the small peg, that was retractable with a strong neodymium magnet from the bottom.
I got a 6+ for this in wood work at my school... (6+ is the compleatly maximum anyone could get... I was the first in 10 years to get a 6+... Thankyou... )
what if you put a magnet, or a piece of metal on top of the hidden dowel so with another magnet you could pull it out without having to have it long enough to grab with your finger nails.
If you copy the link in page 2 of the PDF, it will take you to a page with a PDF with dimensions, the Sketchup model, and several other less useful files.
thats..not a bad idea. or in have metal pin on a soft spring inside the box and have a powerfull magnet to pull the pin and compress the spring. a hidden pin and lock type
It would be more secret if you added a number of points to throw off the purpose of having the dowel and what its for, then it might seem like just a design feature
please excuse my squirley ignorance, but can't you just lift the lid off...I saw nowhere where you glued the top to keep someone from just lifting it off?
Honestly it seems kinda easy to figure out. It is cool no doubt about it, and would deter any lay person from seeing your stuff, but the little peg is a little to obvious.
Change the way you drill the holes for the small dowel to a hole 1/2 through the top and just a little into the bottom piece, change the dowel to a bb and grab a magnet. That would be a secret lock.
I have done some woodworks in the past but this woodwork plan ruclips.net/user/postUgkxZF0EMnrujZvqHhGkxiz559uIABJWR9TG helps me do much in a far lesser time than i used to do i have already built several projects with this plan and i intend to do many more soon. Thank you so much!
You could attach a foot to the secret dowel if you change around the schematics. Then you could attach a foot over the pivot dowel and two more feet on the remaining corners. With the box oriented upside down, you could router the edges and cut a false seam line and attach false hinges to the seam line on one of the long sides of the box.Then it would be even more confusing to someone who doesn't know the secret to opening the box.
That's a great idea
Very good! Anything to disguise the "secret" pin.
I'd make the feet you described all able to rotate - tightly, but without any limit - and add a little limb sticking out perpendicular to the inner end of the key pin so it only comes out at a certain angle.
If you can make a maze out of it, it will only come out if you rotate and move in and out in a particular sequence. The other feet have decoy mazes to make it more confuzing.
James please remember that there is children that watch these things so please watch your mouth. My comment. The dust that comes from the wood you are cutting with the band saw take and stain them with some regular food coloring. Now mix with some regular white glue wrought out some spaces here and there to create inlays. Stain the box and after it is stained add the custom putty to the cracks and crevices and routed areas allow to dry and sand. Clear shellac and viola a super Cool inlay box. And as always keep up the great work i'm defiantly making one of these:) PS: Making for my Foot Ball Memorabilia on a large scale. Nice and Thanks:)
FUCK sorry
I think the children should worry more about the saws than some words...
How to open the UnaBox.
1. Take a match and a match box
2. Put the match on fire
3. Light the UnaBox on fire
4. Take water and pour it on the UnaBox and any other things that are on fire.
5. Enjoy the ruined secret inside!
or just more logically sound..
1 Grab hammer
2 Smash it
The Galactic Void lol it wouldn't catch on fire
Dude I have that same exact secret box that you have show in the beginning of your video. It was gave to me by a friend several years ago and yours is the only other like it I have seen!!! Cool!
Sorry if this sounds weird, but are you kipkay?
Nicholas Trumbo yes, Kipkay was involved with Make
Helium Punk
Kool Kool. Fine with me it's the internet.
Nicholas Trumbo Thank you Nicholas. (*Gained +20 Cool Points*)
Helium Punk
Finally, I've never any of those before!
He literally says it the first second of the video.
silliest thing I've seen in ages
Rather than using that tape measure thing he used, it would be much easier to simply print out the pattern, cover your board in painters tape then glue the pattern to the taped board and cut it on a scroll saw. Probably the way it was intended, judging from the plans.
You will most likely end up with cleaner lines and none of the gaps this guy had. The pieces should fit together much more nicely.
You could tinker with this concept a little and make it even cooler. With not much effort, that tiny wooden dowel could become a button, and with some creative decorating, it can disappear among a hundred other little dots all over the box. Some shallow grooves would help camouflage that diagonal joint as well. Fun!
I'd like to see Matthias Wandel try this one...
Probably, Matthias would be the only person who could open the box if he made one.
***** sorry, I don't like spam.
kipkay videos are what keep me from being bored on weekends
kip Kay which came out first kipkay or make?
He joined make later on when he realized how good he was at soldering so first came kipkay.
thanks
shane ward judge me by my pug do you
Great! I have to made one for my Mom. I know she has to love this box to save money.
Great gift for Christmas!
Thanks! :D
Print the plans on paper > Gluestick them onto the wood > Cut the parts out > Scrape off the paper
I made this one time, it was pretty cool. Before I added the lid, I drilled a vertical 1/8" hole and glued a 1/8" diameter dowel into the height of each corner just to add to the stabilization and connectivity of the corners in the box.
I would make more pins and glue them on that they look like deko .
Cool
I think it will make a great fathers day present
This box its so easi to open,How? use hamer :D
use a crowbar
***** didnt think of that
*****
A torch.
***** he could always use thermite. you can whip some up at home if you know what you're doing.
Keegan Maloney
what termite the exact insect?
this is the greatest thing kipkay made. bevause its easy and anyone can do it. i mean me. cause i cant do electronics i just dont know basics. but here just download print ( first google sketch up for mesuring and then print) get pices do some woodjob and whola. its done. no electronics no expensive bullshit. just wood and some paper. thanks kipkay
1:00 or just paste it onto the wood pieces
Yes because I want glue residue all over the expensive hardwood I just bought. You don't do fine woodworking much, do you?
I don't, but I believe to have some skills in working with materials and common sense though. You just need a little of vinyl glue diluted with water. It is strong enough to keep the paper adherent while cutting but not too much to prevent to remove it with a moistened scrubbing sponge. Or just slightly engrave the perimeter with an awl, utility knife or a small screwdriver.
cover wood with masking tape or painters tape then apply a spray glue put paper pattern on. when done cutting tape peels right off leaving perfect wood underneath.
I'm guessing you guys have never done intricate scroll saw work before.
Kevin McFadden Best tip
cranchee good point
Since it's so easy to open, I guess it's more of a novelty than anything else.
at 1:30 says does not have hand saw then at 2:50 uses one
+nathan vandelft he said very sharp not rough
+john Meacham nope.
Wow, I watched the entire series of weekend projects!
NEVER! Use gloves around machines!
+Matte Edström
I agree. Make: should edit the video and take that portion out about the gloves.
***** Gloves can get snagged by the machine, and you loose bodyparts.
Body parts :o
that where your wrong bud, granted they can get caught, but you were them as an extra layer so you don't loose fingers
Tomas Kerslake-sweeney if your wearing gloves and they catch in the blade your hands will get pulled in and sliced up. Gloves and fingers are a lot softer than wood and steel if it's designed to cut wood you can guarantee it'll cut the glove just the same.
The think I like most about kip not putting in the bolt and a dowel instead is that it's all 100% just wood. To me that just makes it more cool
He sounds and looks like kipkay
he is kipkay
Carlosroxxxxable I notice at the end I commented in the middle of the video
He literally says "Hi it's Kipkay" in the first second of the video.
Slappyballs Yea lol. Srry kay but he did.
ikr kip kay does sound like himself XD
because the wood against good friction would be too much, unless you were to make the hole slightly bigger but then the dowel might fall out of range of a magnet. You'd probably want a way to stop that happen , perhaps making the hole in the lower lid a dimple instead and the pin just sits in there. If the dimple wasn't deep enough , it wouldn't effect the opening of the box.
You shouldn't wear gloves when using power tools.
It depends, certain ones you should
Tension won't hold it since if one end is glued, the dowel is also functioning as a bearing. The correct way to fix the design would be to cut a groove around the dowel, then drill a hole at 90 degrees for a dowel that will go into groove and act as a retainer.
Really? You recommend gloves when working with power tools? Good way to get your hand pulled into your tool.
You can use work gloves...
sharpiedyourwhat That may be a risk to consider, but its a personal preference that i wear gloves.
Maybe when gluing and sanding.
Fill the openings in the box with some white woodglue with sawdust makes a great masking filler.
Ex-wife had a secret box I could never get into.
MY GRANDMA CAN'T FIGHT, BUT YOU SHOULD SEE HER BOX!
I was on a plane a couple days ago (September 15, 2016 going to Winnipeg, MB, Canada from Edmonton, AB, Canada), and someone that was sitting close to me looked exactly like you.
U sound like kipkay omg are you kipkay???????
***** I was just joking around so ha-ha,silly,you got it *WRONG*!!
***** No i'm not,happy now?
***** We got a troll over there
***** Commenting "Are you stupid?" like a million times is a troll.
***** Thanks!
Yay! Now we can make a box that 200,000+ people know how to open!
i can open it with a hammer
A chainsaw that is
if you drill the hole for the small wood peg all the way through, you can just push down through the box and replace it after retrieving it from the inside
kipkay = barack obama!
If you have the tools to do so, hollow out the small dowel that needs to be removed and put a piece of a paper clip in it. Then you can remove it with a magnet
pot box lol
if you increase the dimensions of the bottom piece of wood then you can nail it to a surface for added security
Watching videos like this with nothing precious to hide away. LOL
Another option to add is to using a magnet on the bottom of the small dowel, so you can make it flush with the top and than by adding a more decorative pattern to the top you can add a "camo" effect to disguise its presence. Then, you can just use another magnet, or metal, to retrieve the dowel from its spot.
The project is interesting, I will follow the developments
@TheGUN2000 And if someone wants inside your house, but the door is locked, they can just break a window. This isn't Fort Knox. It's just a fun little kind-of-a-puzzle box.
I have a slight mod. You could use a piece of magnetic metal instead of the smaller pin. Then, you'd need a magnet to get it out, though the problem with that is: It's kind of hard to make metal look like wood.
good review, thanks to the author for the work
If you have one, the original PS2 (Not the slim) has a "Secret compartment" That was meant for a mod or something. You open up one of the pannels (Don't need a screwdriver or anything) there's just a very big empty space behind it. Useless for anything other than a secret draw... Or at least a draw in the last place you'd expect there to be a draw.
I described the wooden equivalent of a c-clip if you understood what I wrote. Without a retainer the box falls apart, "tension" doesn't cut it. You have to glue the lid to the dowel, and design in a retainer, obviously the dowel would require a groove all the way around so the pin or c-clip can retain it, and it can also rotate, Get it? Neither did the unadesigner.
@AwesomeAllen00 good idea. it'd be cool to conceal the hole, and the magnet will lift the pin enough so the top layer can pivot out, but anyone who does not know about the magnet or location has no idea where the pin is. (if that makes any sense)
@TheGUN2000 unless you make it of of steel and add a little padding inside so the things inside wont break.
thats actually such a good idea man
@haji228 It seems they're only their for structural/style purposes. It would seem possible to simply make a regular box, as long as you have the top notch on one of the sides for the locking mechanism.
he sounds slightly like kermit and i'mm loving it...
this is awesome dud im gonna totally make this box
How about drilling lots of small holes in the lid and tapping in dowels, maybe in a pattern. They would disguise the dowel you need to pull out. Good finish on this one, like it!
@pikachuthesquirtle but they could use a sharp diamond to cut it + diamonds are see through so people will see the contents
I'd like to make something like this, only with an Arduino on the inside and a solenoid to open a latch. Maybe hook up a reed switch to a long-lasting battery pack so you can turn it on with a magnet, then have it look for an RFID tag
Make the small pin made out of metal with tiny sliver of a wood top that matches the wood cover flawlessly, then it would require a magnet to open it! Even cooler! Could even conceal a magnet between fingers or magnetic ring
A scroll saw would be best for cutting out that little stuff. Band saws can be difficult to curve or be really precise...
You just gave a lot of 12 year olds a place to stash their skunk away from mommy. Awsome, they deserve it after a long day in class.
You could make the box from a non ferrous material and the pin out of a ferrous one so that it is magnetized.
It's not that "it" wont let you. It's Kip Kedersha who who has disabled thumbing up on his videos. It's a video uploader decided disabled feature.
the makemagazine intro is psychidelic
No, the box is defective by design, there's nothing to keep the large dowel from coming out. Back to the drawing board. I can design a way better box, maybe I will. I am thinking a ball bearing in a non seen maze will have to be manipulated into a certain spot via precise (memorized) combination of tilts before the lid can open, (to summarize the concept)
How about attatching a decorative "whatever" to the small dowel so that way it's not as "obvious" something like a flower or something, that way you don't have to leave the dowel raised enough for your finger nails.
I love all of these projects, but this one just seems unpolished to me. The Large dowel and small dowel are too obvious! Add some more large and small dowels all over the top of the box as decoys. A trickier way would be to use a hidden spring-loaded plunger-pin-latch in place of the small peg, that was retractable with a strong neodymium magnet from the bottom.
a fine example of modern american craftsmanship
the description has a link to the pdf file , not the plans on the video
Great project and very interesting for me. I will recommend it to my friends on social networks
you know what if you leave park of the rod sticking out ..what is to keep others from opening it
good review, the project in a competitive niche marks
ive put a little piece of metal on the end of the small pin so i use a magnet to open it.
or, since it is not screwed, lift lid vertically as one would attempt to do with any box anyways, no throwing on floor or hammering needed!
I got a 6+ for this in wood work at my school... (6+ is the compleatly maximum anyone could get... I was the first in 10 years to get a 6+... Thankyou... )
what if you put a magnet, or a piece of metal on top of the hidden dowel so with another magnet you could pull it out without having to have it long enough to grab with your finger nails.
Thanks for the great idea, i now have to make this.
its easy!!! took me only 3 hours to build one...but not decided what finish to do yet...
@TheSevenknight if you use a CNC machine you can make it of steel and weld the places he is glueing, but it could be done :)
dont use plastic wood as filler use wood dust and pva glue mix it and apply into the gaps( gives more natural looks)
If you copy the link in page 2 of the PDF, it will take you to a page with a PDF with dimensions, the Sketchup model, and several other less useful files.
Coping saw would be great for the notches
kipkay is JUST like my uncle!!! amazing scientist, (odd hair), amazing creativity!
doesn’t the piece of wood that pivots just pull right off of the box? Idk if I missed something but that dowel isn’t secured
Since you replaced the bolt with a dowel, can't they just lift that top piece off?
what if the small wooden dowel gets stuck in the hole?
could make it even better by putting a small magnet on the 'key' dowel, and use a magnet ring or some other method to remove it
All well-decorated, and project happy, hood
I wish Kipkay would make more of these types of video more often.
nice video! not much of a puzzle, but still pretty cool, I'll be making one of these on my next "rain" day!
thats..not a bad idea. or in have metal pin on a soft spring inside the box and have a powerfull magnet to pull the pin and compress the spring. a hidden pin and lock type
I watch this, go to the link, find the PDF, but where are the plans
It would be more secret if you added a number of points to throw off the purpose of having the dowel and what its for, then it might seem like just a design feature
Another idea is to use a piece of metal instead of the small dowel so when you place a magnet over it the metal will come out revealing the box
Can you buy this somewhere? I should definately buy it no matter what it costs. Please tell me where i can buy it and what it costs!
I make you one for $5 000 000.00, plus shipping.
How is the pivot dowel secured?
Couldn't you just lift the top off/out?
please excuse my squirley ignorance, but can't you just lift the lid off...I saw nowhere where you glued the top to keep someone from just lifting it off?
Honestly it seems kinda easy to figure out. It is cool no doubt about it, and would deter any lay person from seeing your stuff, but the little peg is a little to obvious.
are those two edges on that one peice(dont know how to describe it) supposed to be angled?