Yeah please. For example the sad story of the 2008 Olympic gold medalist in the marathon, Samuel Wanjiru. Who died few years after under mysterious circumstances.
True. However, I also feel as if Kenyans replace good athletes yearly. Don’t forget about Daniel Komen and what he was able to achieve within such a short period.
As a Morrocan, the two races that I never want to re-watch are: 1- The 1500 metres final when the goat stumbled over Morceli`s foot. 2- The 1500 metres final when the goat was defeated by Ngeni.
How about the 1500m 2004 Zurich Bernard Lagat vs. Hicham El Guerrouj? This one and the other 2 you mentioned were the "only" times where Hicham either got second or failed.....the other 83 times in his races he won them all!!!!
@@shandytorok259 yes, indeed. Still, the two I mentioned have always been bitter to us, Moroccans , as we were expecting gold medals in both olympic games. A defeat will always be a defeat, but a defeat in the golden league can fall into oblivion with time unlike the one in a great championship.
@@teghsingh1265 I heard that after that famous fall in Atlanta, Elguerrouj used to have a daily look at that photo to give him a major boost forward. He was far-sighted and harvested the fruit of his hard work.
Richard Reynolds lol the story of my college career. Championships races for the 1500 turning into who not the best 600m runner. I always had to lead be a distance guy.
I remember staying up in the night to cheer Noah Ngeny on during the Sidney Olympics. On that day, I had a feeling he would beat El Gerouj and he sure did!
Noah Ngeny was the guy who FINALLY broke Jim Ryun's legendary junior world record. 31 years after Ryun ran a 3:51.3 as a junior, Ngeny ran a 3:50.41 mile as a junior (on July 16th, 1997)
you should do a video about said aouita, one of the rare athletes who ran all races from 800m to 5000m, has been world/olympic champion/medalist in 800 1500 and 5000, has held WR in 1500 1mile 2000 3000 and 5000, was even medalist in 3000 steeple at the mediterranean games, and is still all-time top 30 in 1000m, 1500m, 1mile, 2000m, 3000m, 2miles.
Ngeny and Komen were both shockingly good as well as unfortunately short-lived in their careers, but the world records they set continue to live to this day (in 2021): Ngeny still holds the 1000m WR from 1999 and Komen the 3000m WR from 1996!
Komen also holds the 2 mile record; a distance that is rarely run. What is remarkable is that he is the only person to run under 8 minutes and he did it two times.
How is El G "largely considered" to be the greatest mile runner? He IS the greatest mile runner. That's not an opinion, it's a fact! He holds the world record! How could you possibly claim he isn't the greatest?
Thanks to your channel, I know that the 1500/Mile records of El Guerrouj are both related to the same pacer / rabbit: Noah Ngeny. As you said, although he failed breaking the records for himself, he contributed to these 2 hard to beat historical records by Hicham.
Wow! What a story. Still cannot see him beating El Guerroj again, even had he not been dropped by the Kenyans but he would have been at the Moroccans shoulder. El Guerroj just got more determined after the Sydney shock. Incidentally the great Australian 1500m Olympic champion of 1960, Herb Elliot, also retired early aged just 24 and incredibly was never beaten over the 1500m or the mile.
A really great video, worth the watch. Might add that this period coincided with a dark moment in Kenya's athletic management team history. Some athletes retired in frustration and others relocated to other countries. Needless to say, if Bernand Lagat hadn't gone to U.S. ,he would have been forgotten an year or two later. The depth of Kenyan talent is deep. That's why most athlete's spans are very short unless one is too good or relocates to other countries.
Thank you for shining the spotlight on this extremely deserving but often forgotten legend. Much like Komen he peaked early but man what a show they both put on!
Bro, you are really really good at making videos 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 As a 🇬🇧 Brit, I'd love you to show the rivalry of Steve Ovett, Seb Coe and Steve Cram. A little British tribute to British Middle distance running would be so nostalgic and appreciated. I don't expect you to, but I thought I'd put in the request anyway 😁 You the man 👌🏼
And then still doing well into his early 40's enough to qualify for the 5,000 meters and 10,000 meters in the next one before becoming a Marathoner at Elite levels until nearly 50.
EL-G can only beat Noah in a sub 3.28 1500m. This is because Noah is capable of a fast last 1k. Running a fast last 700m is not a good tactic in a 3.32 1500m race. EL-G needed to run hard 1200m to the tape to beat him in 2000 and dip under 3.28.
Greatest of all rivalries between Kenya and Ethiopia. I don't know if Haile Gebreselassie always wanted to beat Tergat on the line or something. As a Kenyan I am very sad that more often than not it always ended up with the Ethiopian.🤕. But you know what? It was always a highlight of the championships. Kudos Gebre.kudos Tergat.
13:05 This was totally the worst of Kenyan athletics politics. Happens in Ethiopia too. They produce the world’s supernatural best in running but are all too human (like everywhere else in the world) when it comes to governance and politics.
Being a Kenyan 🇰🇪, and Noah Ng’eny’s neighbor in Uasin Gishu county I am amazed at how great an athlete this guy really was! I admit I did not know as much
New here. Great channel! Not sure if you did it yet but the Michael Johnson 92 Olympic food story that cost him his first gold medal. Could be a cool episode :)
Elguerrouj was unbeatable that year as usual and ran record times and beat ngeny like usual just a month prior to those olympics. But for health reasons he wasn't in shape , no one has a chance with elguerrouj in usual shape
There was no corruption involved there. Athletics Kenya was quite explicit that athletes wanting to compete at the world championships should return to camp in Kenya and Noah Ngeny's agent, at the time in power struggle with AK over control of Kenyan athletes instructed him to ignore the call and stay in the UK, so AK (rightly in my opinion) dropped him. The thing about Kenya, no athlete gets special treatment. Remember Daniel Komen missed the Olympics in his strongest year, 1996 after he lost the Kenyan trials. Most other countries would've found a way to get such a gifted athlete in the team, but not Kenya.
@@freedomm it's this bully attitude and in-house battling that has lost great talent to Bahrain and other countries. Uganda gives their athletes the opportunity to train anywhere,,, just watch Uganda eat kenya's lunch on track. Have you seen who won steeplechase at world's this year? We have the best talent in the world,, but we undermine our own success.
@@MrBond-km7dq None of the talent that switches Bahrain, Qatar and other countries ever leaves Kenya to live and train in their new countries so your point is irrelevant. And the depth in Kenya is such that they can provide global medalists for Bahrain, Qatar, Turkey, Kazakhstan and even the USA and still be competitive. There's grand total of two Ugandan athletes worth talking about versus hundreds and hundreds of Kenyans. The fact is: Noah Ngeny's agent used him as a pawn in a power play against the Kenyan federation and lost, not only costing his athlete, but made things harder for other foreign agents.
Fantastic video as always! However, could you please eliminate the flickering of the screen? The fact that the flickering is visible in so many clips tells me it was deliberate. Its hurting my eyes and I would imagine it might induce a seizure to epileptic people.
You've made videos of track and field's biggest talents. Could you maybe make a video (a top 10 perhaps) on late bloomers? Worthy candidates: Michael Johnson, Jonathan Edwards, Bernard Lagat, Kim Collins, Mo Farah, Donovan Bailey, Mike Powell, Kenny Harrison, Peter Blank, Fabrizio Donato, Stefan Holm, Paul Tergat, Linford Christie, Brahim Lahlafi
Noah got some of the biggest talent I think 3:40 for the Mile and 1:42-43 for 800m Same as Wilson Kipketer I think he got potential for 1:39 800m and a 3:27 1.500m if he had not contracted Malaria and stayed injury free Same thing goes for the Daniel Komen I think he could have run 3:27 1.500m 3:43 Mile and sub 7:20 3000m and 12:33 for 5.000m these are the three most talented kenyans ever with Stephen Cherono
A video of the great Aussie Herb Elliot. (I'm not an Aussie. I'm a Kiwi but acknowledge great talent from wherever it comes) He lost a mile race when he was about 15 but from then on was NEVER BEATEN at one Mile nor 1500m. Set the world record in the 1500m when winning gold at the 1960 Olympics in Rome. This was back in the amateur days and he needed to earn a living, so retired undefeated and went to University. I think he was 23. The whole world hoped for the big clash with him and Peter Snell from New Zealand but, sadly, it never took place after each won Gold at 1960 Olympics. Snell 800m, Elliot 1500m..
I did! It was a big upset to me for having been a fan and having also watched live his fall in Atlanta 96. Ngeny was a beast in that last 50 meters though. The funny thing is that his win in Athens was too tight that it almost ended the same way as in Sydney against the great Lagat, that last stretch felt like an eternity considering the pressure El Guerrouj was under fearing to end his career with no olympic gold.
I remember watching this race and the commentators saying how they were boxing Hicham in on purpose for part of the race and how it was legal but a bit dirty. I feel the same way today. To date, his world mile record still stands and he remains the greatest with more major fifteen hundred meter and mile records than anyone.
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Maybe a new idea for a series: "Forgotten legends and their story"
Yeah please. For example the sad story of the 2008 Olympic gold medalist in the marathon, Samuel Wanjiru. Who died few years after under mysterious circumstances.
Daniel komen even tho he’s already done a vid on him
Good idea. We could make a list. Sammy Wanjiru the marathon runner, and z better talent than Kipkoge.
I think everyone would like this
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It's a shame we never got to see Noah ngeny long enough... Imagine running 1:44 on your way to a 1k WR
Yup. It's also insane that he ran his 3:43.40 mile at the age of 20!
He had to get nerfed😱
Imagine running 1:44 at all
Same thing with el guerrouj, he had to retire too soon...
True. However, I also feel as if Kenyans replace good athletes yearly. Don’t forget about Daniel Komen and what he was able to achieve within such a short period.
One of the most underrated middle distance runners ever thanks for reminding us of this great runner.
Your channel is honoring these Legends. I am glad finally someone came out with this great idea.
I love all your content, but especially everything about Hicham El Geurrouj!
Could’ve been one of the greatest. Sadly we will never know.
GucciPlayz YT watch the video
GucciPlayz YT car accident he was never able to recover to his prime now he coaches
@@SDloco100 he started deteriorating way before the accident
@@nizarfa3668 that seems unfounded.
As a Morrocan, the two races that I never want to re-watch are:
1- The 1500 metres final when the goat stumbled over Morceli`s foot.
2- The 1500 metres final when the goat was defeated by Ngeni.
How about the 1500m 2004 Zurich Bernard Lagat vs. Hicham El Guerrouj? This one and the other 2 you mentioned were the "only" times where Hicham either got second or failed.....the other 83 times in his races he won them all!!!!
As a runner defeat should be embraced rather than shortsighted!
@@shandytorok259 yes, indeed. Still, the two I mentioned have always been bitter to us, Moroccans
, as we were expecting gold medals in both olympic games. A defeat will always be a defeat, but a defeat in the golden league can fall into oblivion with time unlike the one in a great championship.
@@teghsingh1265 I heard that after that famous fall in Atlanta, Elguerrouj used to have a daily look at that photo to give him a major boost forward. He was far-sighted and harvested the fruit of his hard work.
I feel you!!! i'm not a morrocan but they're most upsetting T&F vids!but the GOAT is the the GOAT!!!! you should be proud...
The 1500 is never predictable really. I always think I know who will win, but there are so many upsets.
Which makes a 4 years winning streak before Sydney 2000 and another 4 years afterwards a stunning achievement for El Guerrouj.
@@averestless that's why he is the goat of the mile
When there is no pacer like in the Olympics, the runners get too bunched. The 2016 Olympic 1500 meter final time was 3:50.
Richard Reynolds lol the story of my college career. Championships races for the 1500 turning into who not the best 600m runner. I always had to lead be a distance guy.
Thank you for doing his brilliant story justice!
Do you send these videos to the athletes? I’d bet they’d appreciate seeing this much work put into their careers.
I remember staying up in the night to cheer Noah Ngeny on during the Sidney Olympics. On that day, I had a feeling he would beat El Gerouj and he sure did!
Noah Ngeny was the guy who FINALLY broke Jim Ryun's legendary junior world record. 31 years after Ryun ran a 3:51.3 as a junior, Ngeny ran a 3:50.41 mile as a junior (on July 16th, 1997)
man your narration skills are out of this world!!! Amazing
you should do a video about said aouita, one of the rare athletes who ran all races from 800m to 5000m, has been world/olympic champion/medalist in 800 1500 and 5000, has held WR in 1500 1mile 2000 3000 and 5000, was even medalist in 3000 steeple at the mediterranean games, and is still all-time top 30 in 1000m, 1500m, 1mile, 2000m, 3000m, 2miles.
+ he is quite symbolic because he broke the 3'30", the 7'30" and the 13'00" barriers
As always, another incredible compilation from TRP, thanks for your work!!! Highly appreciated!
Ngeny and Komen were both shockingly good as well as unfortunately short-lived in their careers, but the world records they set continue to live to this day (in 2021): Ngeny still holds the 1000m WR from 1999 and Komen the 3000m WR from 1996!
Komen also holds the 2 mile record; a distance that is rarely run. What is remarkable is that he is the only person to run under 8 minutes and he did it two times.
Another great vid, thx for grinding for us.
You're doing great work for keeping the legends alive, thank you so much for the video and as always awesome background music
How is El G "largely considered" to be the greatest mile runner? He IS the greatest mile runner. That's not an opinion, it's a fact! He holds the world record! How could you possibly claim he isn't the greatest?
greatest doesn’t mean best dude
@@Holymoleymackerel exactly. It is about it how dominant they are in their time period and how good they are relative to their competition
El guerrouj won ngeny many times , the only time he lost against ngeny was in Sidney .
@@MohamedTaha-jp5if el guerrouj was beaten by ngeny in sydney because he had had surgery for hemorrhoids before 26 days of the games .
Relax lol
Thanks to your channel, I know that the 1500/Mile records of El Guerrouj are both related to the same pacer / rabbit: Noah Ngeny.
As you said, although he failed breaking the records for himself, he contributed to these 2 hard to beat historical records by Hicham.
And is still a second faster than the 3rd fatsest miler.
Great video, your channel is the best so far.
Wow! What a story. Still cannot see him beating El Guerroj again, even had he not been dropped by the Kenyans but he would have been at the Moroccans shoulder. El Guerroj just got more determined after the Sydney shock. Incidentally the great Australian 1500m Olympic champion of 1960, Herb Elliot, also retired early aged just 24 and incredibly was never beaten over the 1500m or the mile.
Dude your coverage of the history of the athletes, technical know how and stats...you deserve a follow...done.
I take Kenyans winning for granted but am developing a new appreciation for all athletes in general. good job.
You think it's just luck or what?
@@felistergatwiri7134 Definitely what😁...more like their winning is a social fact, an inevitable one.
This video is amazing. We need more dude
Another solid video mr. TRP. Thanks
All your videos are really good thank you
A really great video, worth the watch.
Might add that this period coincided with a dark moment in Kenya's athletic management team history. Some athletes retired in frustration and others relocated to other countries. Needless to say, if Bernand Lagat hadn't gone to U.S. ,he would have been forgotten an year or two later.
The depth of Kenyan talent is deep. That's why most athlete's spans are very short unless one is too good or relocates to other countries.
Thank you for shining the spotlight on this extremely deserving but often forgotten legend. Much like Komen he peaked early but man what a show they both put on!
Great stuff. Thanks TRP.
Thank you for this enlightening historic presentation.
I love your analysis. You must be working extremely hard to turn all the details to a video!
True masterpiece of a video! Really showcases the incredible talent of Noah Ngeny!
Bro, you are really really good at making videos 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
As a 🇬🇧 Brit, I'd love you to show the rivalry of Steve Ovett, Seb Coe and Steve Cram.
A little British tribute to British Middle distance running would be so nostalgic and appreciated.
I don't expect you to, but I thought I'd put in the request anyway 😁
You the man 👌🏼
Yes 🇬🇧
Wow thanks a lot for this video!!
Great video. Thanks. Bernard Lagat next!
El guerrouj Word record for 22 years and still now no one can under 3,26. I think this is enough to speak about The greatest of all times
Cool video, what a cool storyline! Chapeau!
Damn he breaks the world record just as a new one was set. That must have hurt.
Am Kenyan and am learning about Noah Ngeny
Thanks for the upload
Hail Eliud Kipchoge
Loved the style of this vid very entertaining
The crazy part about this video is that Bernard Lagat was running with these guys from the previous century!
And then still doing well into his early 40's enough to qualify for the 5,000 meters and 10,000 meters in the next one before becoming a Marathoner at Elite levels until nearly 50.
@ 6:55 All-time best Miles...El Guerrouj has 7 of the top 10 times. 😳
Honestly this is one of the saddest videos I've seen from TRP... In a good way tho* Keep the great content Champ!
he was 18 y/o just on papers. He was much older
EL-G can only beat Noah in a sub 3.28 1500m. This is because Noah is capable of a fast last 1k. Running a fast last 700m is not a good tactic in a 3.32 1500m race. EL-G needed to run hard 1200m to the tape to beat him in 2000 and dip under 3.28.
Next video : Paul Tergat vs Haile Gebreselassie 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Greatest of all rivalries between Kenya and Ethiopia. I don't know if Haile Gebreselassie always wanted to beat Tergat on the line or something. As a Kenyan I am very sad that more often than not it always ended up with the Ethiopian.🤕. But you know what? It was always a highlight of the championships. Kudos Gebre.kudos Tergat.
this was a real rivarly
Just Targat and his dominance in the marathon.
Absolutely spectacular races
So sweet. The stuff of legends.Rest in peace
Great video!!! finely someone is talking on noah ngeny....probably the one who push the goat to his WR's.Thanx again for your great insights!!
Good video, time to do one on jakob ingra's forgotten older brother filip :D
This was great to watch.
13:05 This was totally the worst of Kenyan athletics politics. Happens in Ethiopia too. They produce the world’s supernatural best in running but are all too human (like everywhere else in the world) when it comes to governance and politics.
wow. Such a great story. I had no idea who he was. thanks for sharing this.
Being a Kenyan 🇰🇪, and Noah Ng’eny’s neighbor in Uasin Gishu county I am amazed at how great an athlete this guy really was!
I admit I did not know as much
Sadest/ most informing/ of all your video's for me
Dang, I always wondered and we're impressed by that 2nd place guy in the wr mile and now I know
Thank you for this. I remember his name but I had forgotten his accomplishments. What a talent!!
New here. Great channel! Not sure if you did it yet but the Michael Johnson 92 Olympic food story that cost him his first gold medal. Could be a cool episode :)
Had a virtual 1km race last week. Was looking up the world record for the 1km - first time I'd heard of Ngeny. Sad.
Great video
Amazing content
Great stuff
TRP’s background music goes hard 😤😤
I love this
Seriously good piece. Got me jacked up. Thank you
Thanks from Spain
He should make a video about Reyes Estevez and Fermin Cacho. Right? :)
Fun fact: if ngeny beat guerrouj it would by far the biggest upset in history in 1999
Thanks for your videos! Do you have any videos that address the doping allegations against runners training in Kenya?
Imagine being a minute early
Elguerrouj was unbeatable that year as usual and ran record times and beat ngeny like usual just a month prior to those olympics. But for health reasons he wasn't in shape , no one has a chance with elguerrouj in usual shape
To simply put it, Kenyan officials are corrupt. Noah Ng'eny's talent is unmatched in kenya ♥ The best middle distance run of all time.
There was no corruption involved there. Athletics Kenya was quite explicit that athletes wanting to compete at the world championships should return to camp in Kenya and Noah Ngeny's agent, at the time in power struggle with AK over control of Kenyan athletes instructed him to ignore the call and stay in the UK, so AK (rightly in my opinion) dropped him. The thing about Kenya, no athlete gets special treatment. Remember Daniel Komen missed the Olympics in his strongest year, 1996 after he lost the Kenyan trials. Most other countries would've found a way to get such a gifted athlete in the team, but not Kenya.
@@freedomm it's this bully attitude and in-house battling that has lost great talent to Bahrain and other countries. Uganda gives their athletes the opportunity to train anywhere,,, just watch Uganda eat kenya's lunch on track. Have you seen who won steeplechase at world's this year? We have the best talent in the world,, but we undermine our own success.
@@MrBond-km7dq None of the talent that switches Bahrain, Qatar and other countries ever leaves Kenya to live and train in their new countries so your point is irrelevant. And the depth in Kenya is such that they can provide global medalists for Bahrain, Qatar, Turkey, Kazakhstan and even the USA and still be competitive. There's grand total of two Ugandan athletes worth talking about versus hundreds and hundreds of Kenyans.
The fact is: Noah Ngeny's agent used him as a pawn in a power play against the Kenyan federation and lost, not only costing his athlete, but made things harder for other foreign agents.
@@freedomm I concede
I always wondered what happened to that guy. Thanks.
Can you make a video about the 1'46 Jakob Ingebrigtsen 800m race?
I think he's done one already? I could be wrong though, have a look at his back catalogue 👍🏻
@@Alberts_Stuff Yup it's already there.
ruclips.net/video/334Ie4fGhl4/видео.html
Fantastic video as always! However, could you please eliminate the flickering of the screen? The fact that the flickering is visible in so many clips tells me it was deliberate. Its hurting my eyes and I would imagine it might induce a seizure to epileptic people.
Good content. Sad that Noah didn't hit top form
Hey TRP, any future videos regarding the 1000m world record?
Damn this was epic no lie. Like watching a movie
@total running productions where do you get the music again?
Yes pls tell us
Yessir
You've made videos of track and field's biggest talents. Could you maybe make a video (a top 10 perhaps) on late bloomers? Worthy candidates: Michael Johnson, Jonathan Edwards, Bernard Lagat, Kim Collins, Mo Farah, Donovan Bailey, Mike Powell, Kenny Harrison, Peter Blank, Fabrizio Donato, Stefan Holm, Paul Tergat, Linford Christie, Brahim Lahlafi
Pity he didn't go further in his achievements ..... That being said... by 21 years old he was a master class of an athlete 🏆
Noah got some of the biggest talent I think 3:40 for the Mile and 1:42-43 for 800m
Same as Wilson Kipketer I think he got potential for 1:39 800m and a 3:27 1.500m if he had not contracted Malaria and stayed injury free
Same thing goes for the Daniel Komen I think he could have run 3:27 1.500m 3:43 Mile and sub 7:20 3000m and 12:33 for 5.000m these are the three most talented kenyans ever with Stephen Cherono
Could you do a clip on optimal types of running? Or if there is even such a thing as a universially prefer running pattern.
I've been waiting for this. Ngeny's career-ending injury is such a shame. Hopefully the same thing doesn't happen to Geoffrey Kamwowor.
Oly 2000: Peak EPO
Do Paul Tergat, and Moses Kiptunuai
Always fun when the underdog takes home the W!
A video of the great Aussie Herb Elliot. (I'm not an Aussie. I'm a Kiwi but acknowledge great talent from wherever it comes) He lost a mile race when he was about 15 but from then on was NEVER BEATEN at one Mile nor 1500m. Set the world record in the 1500m when winning gold at the 1960 Olympics in Rome.
This was back in the amateur days and he needed to earn a living, so retired undefeated and went to University. I think he was 23. The whole world hoped for the big clash with him and Peter Snell from New Zealand but, sadly, it never took place after each won Gold at 1960 Olympics. Snell 800m, Elliot 1500m..
Wish I could have seen it live.
I did! It was a big upset to me for having been a fan and having also watched live his fall in Atlanta 96. Ngeny was a beast in that last 50 meters though. The funny thing is that his win in Athens was too tight that it almost ended the same way as in Sydney against the great Lagat, that last stretch felt like an eternity considering the pressure El Guerrouj was under fearing to end his career with no olympic gold.
What a sad story for him....
I love Kenya 🇰🇪🇰🇪🇰🇪. My country
Could you do Matthew Birir, 3000k steeplechase. He was the goat back then before the likes of Kemboi came along!!!
SO MUCH POTENTIAL!!!
Ngeny remains my favorite of the EPO era
1000m WR history video? Pls :))
Can u make a video about Abebe bekila .The man who won marathon bare foot.
After Noah broke the 1000 meter WR just prior to 2000 Olympics I was pretty sure he could win gold at Olympics.
Great runner
I remember watching this race and the commentators saying how they were boxing Hicham in on purpose for part of the race and how it was legal but a bit dirty. I feel the same way today. To date, his world mile record still stands and he remains the greatest with more major fifteen hundred meter and mile records than anyone.
Can someone please tell me the names of the songs used in the vid?
please