The Mysterious Disappearance of One of the Most Successful Recording Artists of All Time
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Reich, Howard, ‘History Detectives’ Explains by Bandleader Glenn Miller Vanished, Chicago Tribune, July 7, 2014, www.chicagotri...
Lennon, Peter, Glenn Miller “Died Under a Hail of British Bombs,” The Guardian, December 15, 2001, www.theguardia...
Glenn Miller: Possible Crash Site Investigated by US Team, BBC, January 14, 2019, www.bbc.com/ne...
Revealed: What really Happened When Glenn Miller Disappeared in 1944, University of Colorado Boulder, July 8, 2014, www.colorado.e...
Glenn Miller 1904-1944: The Mysterious Disappearance, Methwold History Group, www.methwoldhis...
The Glenn Miller Project, TIGHAR, tighar.org/Pro...
BONUS BONUS FACT: Leslie Howard was a highly respected British actor of stage and screen and a bit of a star with hits as a leading man in The Scarlet Pimpernel. He had a hit on Broadway with the play "The Petrified Forest". When Hollywood decided to make it into a movie they wanted to recast the other lead actor from the play. Leslie Howard insisted they use the unknown actor or said he would not do the movie. That actor was Humphry Bogart and that movie was his big break in film. Bogart never forgot and named his daughter Leslie Bogart after Leslie Howard.
Well, I think it is a sweet story.
Cool
I discovered Howard on tv when his movies were shown. I became a huge fan long after his war time death. Side note, he hated acting in GWTW movie and didn't understand its meaning for Americans.
Awesome! As a Jazz musician (bassist) I'm always up for jazz band stories - as a matter of fact, a good Megaprojects idea would be Dizzy Gillespie's big bands from the late 50s where he was known as "The Ambassador Of Jazz" in years of State Department Tours up to the United Nations Band in the late 1970s through the 1980s.
What would make it suitable for mega projects over a side project or a history highlight? Just wondering what would make it to scale of the mega project list, if Simon makes the video I’ll watch it
@John Wick I think so! I didn’t carry the thought that far - but yeah man! Great idea. What's your favorite flavor of Jazz?
I'm most fond of the late 50s to late 60s - and anything by Chick Corea, and Latin Jazz.
@@jackdenihan5333 my thought about doing it as a Megaproject is because the whole State Department effort of keeping Dizzy's big bands afloat - and later the United Nations Band was a really big deal. Both groups played all around the world and had musicians from all over the world too. Arturo Sandoval actually sought US asylum from Cuba while touring with Gillespie's United Nations Band. It was just kind of a crazy flash of a thought - I was so thrilled that Simon did a Jazz video.
@@ChopBassMan sounds cool
@John Wick I agree
puh-Say-ick, New Jersey, you bloody Limey
I always wondered exactly what happened to Miller. Thanks for this!
Glenn Miller was a true, absolute legend. There's a section of the US Air Force museum dedicated to him with a bunch of personal effects including a clarinet, flight jacket & pair of glasses. Always makes me a little misty-eyed. 💙
Not sure about that reference to a clarinet, as he played trombone. The USAF museum has one of his horns and the GMBS museum in Clarinda IA has another one. I've seen the Clarinda horn up close and know a conductor who's allowed to play it every so often. I'd be scared out of my mind about accidentally damaging it ...
@@Poisson4147 100% right, I'm an idiot!!! 😋
@@DerptyDerptyDUM Hey, nobody's grading papers 🤪
Hard to fathom why Maj. Glenn Miller has not received a Presidential Medal of Freedom?? Many less deserving than Maj. Miller are in the ranks...a travesty.
"Rimmer: Aliens. They're probably going to return Glenn Miller.
Lister: What?
Rimmer: That's what they do. All those people who inexplicably vanish, they return them. Oh, smeg, that's all we need. Glenn Miller on board, boring us to death with 'Pennsylvania 6-5000.'"
Drat it! I was going to type this. Nice quote.
Damn, thought that too! "We don't want him, you can keek the smeghead!"
The Glenn Miller Band is my favorite of the Big Band era, having been introduced to it by my grandfather.
I'm glad this step child of Simon's youtube family is getting more attention. These are always a good time
One of my favorite artists and favorite mysteries.
I'm glad this channel still gets new videos every now and then
I love Glenn Miller and WW2 history,
I have read of his disappearance.
I agree with the conclusion that the weather caused the plane to crash,
most of time the ordinary is the ordinary even in war.
Plus most UC-64s were equipped with what turned out to be defective carburetor heaters. The same heater was also used on some combat planes which got first priority for fixes. Little transports and utility planes just got patched in place and sent back out.
The saddest aspect is that the particular plane Miller was on had a laundry list of problems with its fuel system. It never should have been deemed flightworthy, especially for over-water travel. If anyone had acted in the interest of safety he probably would have had a long and productive postwar career, and popular music might have been VERY different.
I didn't know that about Leslie Howard! Both stories are just so tragic.
The city in New Jersey where Miller had his last civilian concert is pronounced pah-SAY-ick.
what a fucking legend he gave up millionaire lifestyle and became an officer serving in ww2. modern artists would never serve or hell even give up their salary/money for a war
Well times were different then, wars actually had a meaning, and a consequence if lost. Look at how many wars we've fudged since, with no real consequences (to the USA) as a result. Such as Joke Biden's Afghanistan debacle.
There's a rhyme on how to pronounce Passaic, New Jersey: "Eat a steak, piece of cake, that's how you say Passaic".
It's pretty hard to keep up with all your channels Simon. Luv you and your writer work.
There's also the sad story of the plane crash death of actress Carole Lombard... The triumphant start, with a $2 million bond drive in her home state (Indiana), why she wanted to get home as soon as possible (Lana Turner and Gable's wandering-penis-syndrome), her fateful coin toss (plane or train) with agent Otto Winkler, and the devastating aftermath... Gable beyond consolation at the Pioneer Saloon, while MGM-fixer and friend, Eddie Mannix, climbed down Mt. Potosi with the rescue team, in his customary fedora, dress shoes and business attire. Dude always dressed like a small-town mob boss. *LEGEND.* Legends all round, particularly the military men called in, in a futile attempt to rescue the 22 people lost forever in a fog just outside of Las Vegas, one cold January night in 1942.
Carole Lombard was a comic genius and also quite a looker. I think the disguise-death scene in "To Be or Not to Be" is the funniest scene in any American comedy.
According to George T Simon , author of The Big Bands , the author was talking to G. M. ( a personal friend of his ). about his plans for after the war , when he abruptly stopped and stated " who am I kidding , I'm going to get it in some God damned , beat up airplane !" ( Miller was also known for his fear of flying ).
Yeah, that is def. spooky. Simon also notes that he told a couple of guys in the band that he was afraid they would be going home without him. He was SO afraid that he wrote to his brother Herb asking him to make sure Helen and their two children would be well-cared for.
Reportedly Buddy Holly had similar qualms before his similar, and similarly fatal, flight. I don't want to go off the deep end into Art Bell territory here, but sometimes it makes you wonder....
Glad to subscribe to another of your amazing channels! You must have a rediculous work schedule.
One of the episodes of Leonard Nimoy's "In Search of" series was about Glen Miller's disappearance.
That was a great episode, with good recreations of what at the time was the best info known about his fatal flight.
Of course a lot more's been found since then. The newest research by the University of Colorado uses a lot of formerly-closed records and primary-source material that weren't available when "In Search Of" was on back in the 1970s. The U of Co. people found solid evidence that the plane was seen as it headed over the Channel, which rules out the In Search Of hypothesis of a land crash.
The PBS series History Detectives did a really good episode on this subject . It actually sounds like Simon here is reading from its trans- script .
@@johnvan6082 I'm glad he followed up re the latest research, especially from the University of Colorado. It puts all of the crazy conspiracy theories to rest and shows that like most accidents, the cause was no more nefarious than human and mechanical failures. 😢😢
Must be a scary experience to crash in the ocean
I've been waiting for you to cover this!
Noordyn Norseman, nice, loud as hell to fly (takeoff on floats, ear shattering), I have three hours in my logbook, in a Norseman. The Miller tunes where among my parents favorites. I have a few of his 78 rpm records and a player, from my parents.
The UC-64 carrying Miller wasn't equipped with floats, which made it even more of a death trap in the event of a water landing. The fixed landing gear would "grab" the water and either tear the fuselage apart or send the plane into a cartwheel. Reportedly every single attempt to ditch a non-float Norseman in Canada was fatal.
Wow. Miller lived a great life. So sad he took such an unnecessary risk.
His aide was supposed to make the trip but at the last minute could not. Glenn M. hated and feared flying.
My great- granddad went to high school with Glenn Miller. My hometown also has an annual Glenn Miller festival.
Clarinda IA!! Been there at least ten times for the festival.
Puh-SAY-ick, not Passy-ack
Very interesting.
Just found your new channel.
Subscribed!
Who would think that Dwight Eisenhower would send Glenn Miller to negotiate a treaty!? Man, people will grab on to anything!
Excellent video. Good work Simon 👏
Yay I think this channel is resuscitated!
Geez I hope so I really dig this channel
Ikr I had actually forgotten this channel to be honest
Looks like it! I love this channel. Definitely top 5 SimonTube channels
Subtitles in Dutch. Fascinating.
Two commercial breaks in a 14minute video. Well placed, too.
I go to his birth place every week but I don't know much about him. Thank you for the video.
Visit the GMBS Museum, right next to his birthplace house and just a few blocks south of the center of Clarinda.
@@Poisson4147 thank you. I go to Clarinda on a fairly regular basis for work I'll have to stop and check it out this summer.
@@billb3374 The Festival is June 8-13, still time to get tickets.
@@Poisson4147 I might do that.
At 1:35 Passaic is pronounced incorrectly. Its " Pă sāy ik"
It's called Go-itis.
When being in a hurry, or being irrationally committed to flying causes a pilot and crew to fly when weather and/or aircraft conditions demand that they remain grounded.
Too many pilots, celebrities and their friends and families have been lost to Go-itis.
Buddy Holly's loss was eerily similar. Had to get there in a hurry, took a little plane in bad weather, and paid the ultimate price for it. Gotta wonder how music would have developed if either / both men had lived.
12:00
AIR HEART ?
EAR HEART ?
Dude you have so many channels
I was raised on all the old Big Bands. Glenn Miller was awesome!
You Tube : Will you please do something about the closed caption so that it better transposes accurately ?
Did you perhaps meam Passaic (pronounced puh-SAY-ick) as the location of Miller's last performance?
I think you swapped the last two vowels, as I heard "pah-SEE-ack". (Not one vowel sound correct, either.)
Absolutely love Glen Miller's music.
Good video 👍
No disrespect to "Tiger" but they couldn't find the "Spruce Goose" on the whitehouse lawn .
Leslie Howard famous for Sherlock Holmes
Professor Whistler. Nicely taught.
Class, listen to the big brain behind the glasses
The answer is simple. His plane was transported to the delta quadrant. All planes that go missing like this end up in the delta quadrant.
Kind of unfortunate the YT thumbnail shows a float plane
Unless we ever find the full amount of wreckage, that is on the sea floor, we may never know the truth.
True that. The cockpit and engine are about the only parts of the plane that would be left after 75+ years in salt water. They're only about the size of a Smart car and are buried in the mud with 3 millennia of other Channel debris.
Simon it's pronounced "puh-say-ack" New Jersey.
My grandmother & I loved Glenn Miller.
Forgot to mention Richie Valance 😔
La Bamba , Oh Donna & Your Mine.
* "Valens"
1:47 I'm just wondering how a C-130 Hercules was photographed during World War 2?
I think that was just a stock photo of that Air Force base.
I knew Glen Miller died in a plane crash but in my head it was a big plane and lots of other people died too. Maybe I’m thinking of Buddy Holly.
That wasn't a big plane either, though Holly was in the company of a couple of similarly well-known friends. A tragedy.
Somehow people conflated his taking a UC-64 with the orchestra flying to Paris a few days later on a C-47 transport. That plane arrived safely. Miller was the only member of the AAF Orchestra to be lost during the war.
That C-130 looks a little out of place lol.
Rick Gillespie says it's Amelia Earhart's...
2:48 bit sus
My mother, a WWII AAF WAC vet, a physician and a pilot from Buffalo, NY area had some things to say about Glenn Miller and his orchestra.
She had GMahO play at her senior prom (1936?). She was on the prom committee and they had contracted for them to play a year in advance. In the intervening year, Glenn Miller became quite famous and they tried to back out. However, the prom committee had a contract and, while a cash incentive was offered if they let GMahO out, the committee stuck to their guns and had the most famous band in America play for their prom. (Kinda like having the Beatles playing for a prom in 1965.) From what my mom said, GM was not a happy man about the whole thing and was in no way gracious about having a bunch of teenagers holding his feet to the fire.
Later, while in the in the AAF, she heard it suggested there might have had been someone who put sugar in the plane's gas. He, being something of a prima donna, had been making life miserable for all the service personnel around him and was generally disliked by the local staff.
Miller started his first band in 1938. It did not last. Miller attributed this to the band having no identifying feature. He began again, in early 1939, utilizing the voicing of the clarinet led saxophone section, which had a very distinct, shimmering, rich sound. That sound has been Miller's, ever since.
His made a last-minute decision to take an unauthorized flight with with Lt. Col. Baessell. On top of that Baessell ordered his pilot to make an informal stop which meant the pilot stayed with the plane and the engine wasn't shut down. There's no way someone could have known in advance to be able to sabotage the plane.
As someone once said, there's no need to invent conspiracy theories when bad judgement is a perfectly solid explanation.
Isn’t local British time the same as Greenwich time ?
I wasn't particularly In the Mood to hear this. But it was intriguing nonetheless.
Boy the way Glenn Miller played.
Soo-ungs that made the hit parade!
nice
Love the video as always, I just wanted to ask one thing. Do you think you could try to annunciate a little bit more on things like 0:39? Otherwise your videos are very interesting and it's hard not to watch another one after you finish one.
12:50 - Bonus fact
Glenn Miller, the best ever.
Did Simon say" Lynard Skinhead"?
Lol three blocks away? That's barely a close call.
And yes, I have take indirect much, much close than that.
Mystery? No mystery..aliens. It is always aliens. Prove it wasn't.
Red Dwarf might have confirmed it!
Rimmer "Aliens, they're probably trying to return Glenn Miller. Dear God don't let it be him!"
You do not have to prove a negative.
Pa-seek… New Jersey
Respectfully it is pronounced.. "Pa--Say--Ick
How would millers plane end up in Dorset? Or was the fisherman working up the channel???
No idea, seems likely it was another aircraft. Maybe it will be found by this expedition and its identity confirmed.
Theory = A guess
My exes grandfather was his band producer in WWII.
Please contact me via Messenger!
Pass E ack?! New Jersey 😂
He was suppressed by Deep Bass
Aliens 👽
Aliens could not get a music station from the home planet and abducted him to play for them.
The first story, he made an incredibly stupid mistake and paid for it.
The second, they saw what they believed was either a military cargo plane or bomber, which wouldn't have been a huge mistake to make, and shot it down.
Nothing particularly special about either one really.
Bad weather meant most planes were grounded, including non-critical combat flights. Also a UC-64 was a tiny transport that could only carry 8-10 people and had an over-fuselage wing, meaning it would be unlikely to have been mistaken for a bomber or cargo plane.
The U. of Colorado investigators identified a long list of stupid, avoidable mistakes:
- The ground crew certified the plane as airworthy despite a long history of fuel-system problems
- Lt. Col. Baessell authorized the flight himself rather than going through standard channels, a serious violation of regulations
- Both he and Maj. Miller failed to get travel permission from their respective CO's, both of whom would almost certainly have turned thumbs down in view of a ban on non-essential travel that week
- F/O Morgan wasn't trained for instrument flight. He had not just the right but the duty to refuse travel on a day when conditions were beyond his training, but he opted to make the trip anyway.
- Baessell both didn't file an official flight plan and marked the stop at Twinwood as incidental rather than formal. Those failures left only the thinnest paper trail; no one in Paris realized they were supposed to land that afternoon and thus didn't raise an alarm.
@@Poisson4147 Yeah they made a ton of mistakes, probably even a few you left out.
In the end someone saw a plane that wasn’t theirs and downed it. Or it just crashed due to its various mechanical problems.
So yeah, nothing particularly special going on there. Lots of F ups, possible combat and it’s gone
We are taking the opinions of an Art History professor as hard fact of what happened in a WW2 aviation incident? I have my doubts
I'm surprised someone titled a song Chattanooga Choo Choo. You'd be laughed at today for that title.
Well America was different then. We weren't full of different anti American cultures all with a chip on their shoulder/bone to pick. People were just glad to be alive then, after the war (WW1), and damn glad to be American.
They used to use the word "gay" to describe the general atmosphere/mood of the times. Of course that word has been subverted by degenerates, these days, among others.
More jokiness plz 😁🙏
I understood there wasn't much of a mystery. Plane takes off in fog and has to land in fog across the channel. Where is the mystery?
Where hes gone
@@Diom_des Generally when planes back then had to land in fog they crashed.
Fog is a ground-based cloud and if you can't see the runway or even the airport your plane will not land where it is supposed to, assuming the pilot was even able to navigate that close to the airport.
The bombs didn't need to explode. If low enough the splash could have unsettled it and cause the flip seen or the wing hit by a bomb on its way down
The University of Colorado's investigation showed the plane was too far away from the RAF drop zone to have been anywhere near the returning Lancasters. The UC-64 had a defective carburetor and a pilot who wasn't qualified for bad-weather flying. Either or both would have been more than enough to bring the plane down.
Sam produces this channel? Lol
Tommy Dorsey was lost in a supposedly military plane crash in the channel too!
HUH??? Dorsey lived until 1956. He had a TV program called "Stage Show" which featured an up-and-coming rocker named Presley.
The similarity was that Tommy's death, like Miller's, was utterly avoidable. He was having trouble sleeping so he took some sedatives and washed them down with whiskey. They found him dead in bed the next morning.
It’s 11 PM, I’m dozing tf off, and Fact Boi utters the phrase “passy-ak New Jersey.”
Being a proud Jersey Boi, I suddenly catch my 2nd wind. Where tf is passy-ak?! How does such a big act play in a no name town like passy-ak?
I load up Google in my browser. Now, how do you spell passy-ak? Hmm, P-A-…C? S? Wait…does he mean Passaic? He means Passaic doesn’t he?
As a not really ambassador for NJ, I hereby make a motion to change the pronunciation of Passaic to passy-ak. As the sole member of the not really ambassadors’ organization, the motion passes.
Never change Whistle Boi. 😅
raaaaabies raaaabies
Have you done a video about how Neil Young sabotaged the Lynard Skynard plane and caused the crash? Look it up
* "Lynyrd Skynyrd"
Well in the 1940's I imagine it was far easier to get a top ten hit when there's only 9 other competitors or a Number 1 when the Number 2 downright sucked, no wonder Glenn Miller had so many #1's, there wasn't much real competition due to WW2.
The Top 10s were awarded for his civilian band's recordings, most before the US entered the war. And competitors like the Dorseys, Goodman, Ellington, Shaw, Basie, Barnet etc. could hardly be called sucky.
Your imagination reveals your ignorance of American history. All by design by the lame schools you were probably made to attend, I'm sure.
I'm too drunk right now to worry about other people's opinions, some I'm going to ask this: Who cares that Miller died mysteriously. He was just a clown. In my reckoning, people who make money by amusing other people are all automatically clowns. Other than entertaining people, they contribute nothing to human civilization and are massively over rewarded for it. Regardless of how much he did to support the last war effort American needed to participate in, Glenn Miller was nothing but a clown. His life, and ultimately his death, had no real impact on the welfare of human civilization
Music is of no contribution to humanity? Excuse me while I reject your idiotic statement.
pass-AYE-ick
I knew Glen Miller died in a plane crash but in my head it was a big plane and lots of other people died too. Maybe I’m thinking of Buddy Holly.
no, buddy holly was also in a small plane, like 6 seats.
I knew Glen Miller died in a plane crash but in my head it was a big plane and lots of other people died too. Maybe I’m thinking of Buddy Holly.
No, that was a small 4-seater plane.