Agreed! Great Video... Those little nose cones look cool and all but they come off,I didnt believe it either,Built my first quad and used them,,,I always tried to check before flight,,then one time hovering it about 20' off the ground I seen my prop come off and flew into the sky as my quad flip and ran for the dirt! After that I went to my local hardware store bought 4 new stainless locking nuts for a few buck and havent had them loosen up one bit since! I also agree that you will be hard pressed to find a simple lock nut in reverse thread anywhere locally. Listen to the man and do yourself a favor and stick with CW!
All the motors I have ever bought are CW motors, because standard screw nuts in the hardware stores are all CW threaded. To me it's just a hell lot easier to go to hardware store and buy a bag full of cheap M3 and M6 locking nuts (with nylon insert in the thread that will not back out regardless which direction the motor spins) for all the motors. Removal is also easier since they are all standardized CW. Ordering CCW and CW propeller hubs in 2 different sizes and then keeping track of which one turns in what direction is such a royal pain.
K Khalifah Exactly right, same opinion for me. These motors went on a Hex I was building, I bought 8 total and 6 of them were CW and I used standard RH M5 locknuts
This is basic stuff beginners need to know. I didn't know it and I ordered all CW motors and my first flight the nut came off and had my first crash. LOL Thanks for your video.
I thought I had this figured out along time ago ,built a quad installed the motors and props as you have described in your video then one day I had a prop fly off 200 feet in the air while flying in moderate wind and it got me rethinking the whole thing. After some more thinking and experimentation today I am coming back around to your method but have come to the conclusion that it is not 100% full proof as you commented below, I think there are a lot of different forces at play during a flight that play into it regardless cw or ccw . I think the best thing is to thoroughly tighten the nuts, add some loctite or use nylock nuts as you are doing and everything should be ok. I think a lot of people are under the impression that if they are using self tightening nuts/props that they only need finger tighten them and I believe now after my crash that is not sufficient or safe. I will be tightening mine with a wrench or using other methods to secure them from now on
Hey man thanks so much! Can you please tell where can I read more about "just get all motors CW and use standard lock nuts"? Or it's just as simple as it sounds and CW lock nuts will tighten the props enough and I can be sure not to bother with CW/CCW tightening?
romangorchakov Yes, if you have the option to just buy all CW motors, then do that, and regular locknuts will be totally fine to hold your props no matter which way the motor spins.
Ōin Taylor oh totally understand it was a great video I'm working on building my first drone. The motors I'm looking at come with thread lock nuts so I should be fine
Jarold Villanueva glad to help. Basically if you want self tightening you have to have the nut tighten in the opposite way that the motor is spinning. Simple. The confusing part was that the CW or the CCW refers to the threads not to the motor spinning Direction.
Thank you for the informative video. I have a doubt. Will a CW nut on a CCW motor make it a CW oriented thread that tightens when propeller goes CW? Or is it the thread on the shaft that makes it a CCW motor? Basically, I was thinking if it is the thread orientation on the nut that makes a CW or CCW motor? Please do share your thoughts.
@@13thChip you will need to have the same nut on the same shaft, CCW to CCW, CW to CW. The idea is like you say, to try and have self-tightening nuts on the opposite corners.
+rblenian When I look at the smaller sizes like 1104 or 1106, and the propeller are held on with screws, not with a nut on the prop shafts, I do not find any listings that specify CW or CCW. If they do not have a threaded shaft, you will be fine to order whichever type you like because you can reverse the rotation with switching the wires on the ESC or using the ESC configuration tool like BLHeli Suite.
So, you're saying that it's fine to run 4 cw threaded motors , even tho all threads are cw , you sure the motor nuts won't undo themselves during flight , specifically for the ones in place of CCW threaded motors
I don't get why after all that, You say, 'get all clockwise motors'. I understand all you've said, i understand the concept using cw and ccw threads, just, how then do you get away with 'all', being clockwise motors?
owenkilleen If you just buy CW style, then any standard 5mm locknut you can get at the hardware store will work, you won't have to worry if you need reverse or left-handed nuts, regular "righty-tighty" will be what you need.
When the CCW motor starts spinning (CCW) the propeller and the locking bolt will have drag and inertia they will try to remain in their position OK...now this means the locking bolt will be like rotating opposite to the direction of motor shaft rotation.... so CW direction...this does mean that the locking nut will untightened/unscrewed and will come off the motor shaft....what the hell.... Your saying right about motor specification says CCW which is its threads... but the motor should turn CW and thats damn right no doubt...otherwise you will lose your prop in mid air... ... ... So finally CCW motor has:- -CCW threads -Should turn in CW direction... ......(Teaching myself)
Prathamesh Lad sorry you didn't understand from the video, but that is what I said... Use a CW threaded motor in locations 2 and 3 which spin CCW and use a CCW threaded motor in locations 1 and 4 which spin CW.
I just blew a motor and only had 1 spare motor for CCW but need it for the CW position. See your comments means I shouldn’t have a problem if I’m using the nyloc nut?
If I understand you correctly the only spare motor you have has CCW threading is that correct? If that is true and you have a reverse thread nylock nut, then you'll be fine. Motor spin direction is determined through the ESC settings or by switching 2 of the wires when soldering. A CCW labeled motor means the nut tightens by turning it to the left (reverse thread)
So if I have 4 CW motors and I reverse the polarity on 2 of them are you saying it wouldn't be recommended to use the 4 conical nuts? Instead use 2 conical nuts and 2 lock nuts or rather all lock nuts?
Gus S Best way to go is to use 4 locknuts. The nylon locking material will hold tight just fine. The conical nuts look nice but are functionally inferior to using regular CW (right-hand threaded) locknuts.
I would like to share mine expirience with cw and ccw nuts. First i losti flight cw nut, it just fall of in the flight, then i bought cw nut, where u can find everywhere, and i put under shaft the spring clip, and i fixed the problem, then after few flights i lost ccw nut, then i ordered new set of 2 cw and 2 ccw nuts, and i put the spring clip/plate, on all motors, and i fixed the the problem, so many crashes everything was just perffect, until i lost mine xk 251, which is another story and mine unexpirience.
This only refers to brushless motors? since the rotation can be changed by the wiring? A brushed motor's ration can't be changed by simply wiring it a different way right? I mean if i buy the Racerstar coreless motor, i need to buy 2 cw and 2 ccw, or does the wiring determine if they go left and right? I watched the video, i'm still confused. Cause all drones need two blades that go left and 2 blades that go right? Please help, i've been researching but i'm stuck on this part. I learned how to change the rotation on brushless but i don't understand if brush motors need be bought 2 cw and 2 ccw.
ALIEN-Oo-_-oO You are right, brushed motors cannot change direction just by changing a wire around. Brushed usually only have 2 wires anyway. They are designed to only spin in one direction. If you are talking about coreless motors, those are still brushed motors as far as I know, so you do have to get 2 cw and 2 ccw. The wires are usually a different color to differentiate the 2 directions, usually the coreless motors are for the very small quads.
Oin Taylor Thanks for replying, i saw a video here on youtube, of someone who made a drone with 180 dc motors, it's so confusing cause in his description he doesn't mention buying 2 cw and 2 ccw motors, but in video there's an image showing 2 have to be cw and 2 ccw, i was so confused about this, i thought he bought them all cw, so he prolly bought 2 cw and 2 ccw right? i would link you the video but i dont think its allowed here.
Oin Taylor actually on the brushed u can ive done it nothing burnt up motors changed direction cus each has like its own bec acting like an esc built in to the board and thats what your soldering to ive only had brushless burn from confusing wires and
you can change directions..but it's not efficient...just incase you get into other E skateboard or go karts still using brushed motors....That's why some people install a jack shaft to make the a motor spins in sort of the proper direction Notice Powerwheels. They can go in reverse....but one side of the motor isnt turning in the proper direction. One motor is doing more work than the other.
@@MrLuccasMF if you use threadlock, only go with the blue. I would look for another nut in the meantime. And actually 2 of your motors could never be self-tightening since you say they are all 4 CW, so you really have to use nyloc nuts.
Question. I added my motors on my quadcopter, but I put the back ones wrong, back left is cw, and back right is ccw, and the nuts got trethed so I can't take one of the motors off. Can I still finish building my drone and have it fly right, or should I just get a new one and put them in the right order.
+Francisco L sorry it's been 4 days I just got this notification. If you have ESC that use blheli then you can reverse the motor rotational Direction in the blheli suite basically reprogramming those back to Motors to spin the opposite way that they are spinning. Hopefully you're able to remove the prop nuts and put the propellers on in the correct orientation. If your es C do not run blheli and do not allow for reversing the motor rotational Direction then yeah you're going to need to physically switch the motors around on the arms.
The direction the motors spin is controlled either by setting the direction using the BLHELI software configuration or by physically swapping 2 of the wires from the motor on the ESC. As for the prop nuts, if you are using NYLOCK (nyloc) nuts for your CW motors, they shouldn't come off of the shafts no matter which direction the motors spin. The nylon insert will hold them just fine if you have tightened them correctly.
@@OinTaylor Thank you for the reply. I'm putting together a cloned Mavic pro drone that i 3d printed, the reason i asked is because i'm ordering 4 Racerstar 2212 motors and they are all CW. Thanks again.
Samridh Patial yes you can change the rotation direction with the ESC or by swapping 2 of the wires when you solder them. I would recommend getting CW motors for all 4 so that you can use standard nuts or locknuts on the prop shafts. if you got all CCW motors, you would need reverse threaded nuts, harder to find.
Thanks for the video. But if you used all four CW motors, wouldn't two of the motors not be self-tightening? Are the lock nuts strong enough to withstand the force?
Samridh Patial yep but becare not to mix up your polarity i did n had 2 motors smoke right in my room so i just learned the hard way to just always do it in order and if i need to change direction just do it in blheli
They just making ccw nuts, to force you to buy them, because they are rared from gold, and Chinese manufacturers decided to make ccw nuts and make profit from parts, i think and i am pretty sure that all nuts could be cw nuts and solution is more simpler then making ccw shaft and nuts. First example is putting two nuts, one to screw propeler, and another nut to screw first nut, it would never fall of, talking from mine dad, and he is machine ingeneer, simple.
marc justyn roxas you would really need to have 4 reverse threaded nuts (left-hand thread) to hold you props on. Right-hand threaded nuts are the standard, so much easier to get at your local hardware store. Going with 4 CCW motors just makes things hard on yourself, but if that's all you have or it's a really good deal, then good luck to you!
because yeah, two motors are spinning CW and CCW, I have these set of emax motors and it's all CCW, two motors will do self locking, I'm thinking if I'm going to fine about spinning on clockwise motors.. with CCW threads.
marc justyn roxas just crank those nuts real tight on the 2 motors that will spin CW (motors 1&4 if you're on Betaflight) or you can try to use the really easy Lock-tite which is the purple kind I think. Or just try to find 2 left-hand threaded lock-nuts (m5 usually) at the store or online. Lock-nuts are the safest way to go. If you have to go online to order 2, you may as well order a bunch so you can use the reverse threaded lock nuts on all four of your Motors
Sorry but isn't that backwards? Think about if your motors props and nut are spinning at 10,000 rpm and the nut is loose or becomes loose due to vibration or whatever and you cut throttle then the momentum of the nut and also the prop pushing up on it would then actually loosen it and cause the nut to fly off therefore the nut should always tighten in the same direction the motor/prop spin. .??
Don Johnson if the nuts were to tighten the same way the motor is spinning, they would never be able to bottom out (reach full tightness). the nuts have to be opposite of the direction of spin for any of this to work, and even still it's not 100%. I think it's more about strikes than just momentum anyway. And safest of all is to get 4 CW motors and use nylock nuts. No need to worry about self tightening then at all.
Sir I was have 2 cw and 2 ccw motors but the i see the one of the cw motors seller sent me is not working. And I can not be able to find cw motor and i just ordered ccw motor. Can i make my quad with 3 ccw and 1 cw? The seller said me Ican use lockable nuts. Is it true? Please help me, thanks.
Yes this is true but if you have a CCW motor you will need to find a left hand thread lock nut which are not as common but they are available you will have to search around online mostly to find them.
@@OinTaylor ou can not use the counter-clockwise nut, because the pin of the motor is clockwise, The motors are already manufactured with the correct position
@@fabvelloso you can make the motor spin either direction you want by switching wires or setting the direction with the ESC firmware. If he needs to use a CCW motor in the position of a CW motor, he just needs to use a Reverse Thread locknut to hold the prop. This will work just fine.
@@fabvelloso I think we are not understanding each other. He said he had a CW motor that went bad and he could only replace it with a CCW. this will work fine as long as he uses a reverse thread lock nut on the prop shaft. When you say motor pin, are you talking about the prop shaft or something else?
each motor has 3 wires. After you solder the wires and are testing the motor, if it is not spinning the direction you want it, just unsolder 2 of the wires and switch them around and resolder. That will spin it the other direction. Or you can change the motor direction using blheli suite program.
Wayne keeling Yes. Seeing as how Reverse thread nuts are hard to come by through normal means, it is better, if possible, to just purchase all CW motors and use standard threaded Nyloc nuts on all of them.
The only thing different in CW and CCW motors is the direction the threads are cut on the prop shaft. The motor parts (bell, stator, magnets, bearings or bushings) are all the same.
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Very nice and clean explanation. Thank you! I needed that.
Wow...I feel dumb. I'm really glad I found this video. Seeing this rather than reading helped a lot. Thanks so much!
Andrew Collins Glad that this helped you, thanks for watching!
Much Love for the Explanation !!! Reading about it still had me boggled.. The video instantly set me right..
+petrokemikal Glad I could help, thanks for watching!
Thanks, that helped me confirm my suspicion after finding loose 'self tightening' nuts on my FT Super Bee.
Agreed! Great Video... Those little nose cones look cool and all but they come off,I didnt believe it either,Built my first quad and used them,,,I always tried to check before flight,,then one time hovering it about 20' off the ground I seen my prop come off and flew into the sky as my quad flip and ran for the dirt! After that I went to my local hardware store bought 4 new stainless locking nuts for a few buck and havent had them loosen up one bit since! I also agree that you will be hard pressed to find a simple lock nut in reverse thread anywhere locally. Listen to the man and do yourself a favor and stick with CW!
ProfitOfDoom420 Thanks Brother for watching!
All the motors I have ever bought are CW motors, because standard screw nuts in the hardware stores are all CW threaded.
To me it's just a hell lot easier to go to hardware store and buy a bag full of cheap M3 and M6 locking nuts (with nylon insert in the thread that will not back out regardless which direction the motor spins) for all the motors. Removal is also easier since they are all standardized CW.
Ordering CCW and CW propeller hubs in 2 different sizes and then keeping track of which one turns in what direction is such a royal pain.
K Khalifah Exactly right, same opinion for me. These motors went on a Hex I was building, I bought 8 total and 6 of them were CW and I used standard RH M5 locknuts
This is basic stuff beginners need to know. I didn't know it and I ordered all CW motors and my first flight the nut came off and had my first crash. LOL Thanks for your video.
Glad it was helpful, thank you for watching.
Big thanks Man, u just saved me a lot of money with this explanation.
Thank you sir! This cleared it all up for me building my first 250mm quad.
Angelo Faraday gald it helped you
This was helpful. Very detailed for a simple problem. but it just helped me order 3 of each instead of all one type.
Well explained. Never knew that.
+ALLINGREENBERG Thanks!
excellent ... I had this confusion.... thanks!
dood thankyou very much for this explanation! keep it up!
Dheus Joga Thanks for watching!
I thought I had this figured out along time ago ,built a quad installed the motors and props as you have described in your video then one day I had a prop fly off 200 feet in the air while flying in moderate wind and it got me rethinking the whole thing. After some more thinking and experimentation today I am coming back around to your method but have come to the conclusion that it is not 100% full proof as you commented below, I think there are a lot of different forces at play during a flight that play into it regardless cw or ccw . I think the best thing is to thoroughly tighten the nuts, add some loctite or use nylock nuts as you are doing and everything should be ok.
I think a lot of people are under the impression that if they are using self tightening nuts/props that they only need finger tighten them and I believe now after my crash that is not sufficient or safe. I will be tightening mine with a wrench or using other methods to secure them from now on
Thanks for clearing this up.
Good video!
+nick newman Thank You!
Vary helpful, thank you
Very helpful, thanks!
You're welcome
Appreciate the explanation thanks
Hey man thanks so much! Can you please tell where can I read more about "just get all motors CW and use standard lock nuts"? Or it's just as simple as it sounds and CW lock nuts will tighten the props enough and I can be sure not to bother with CW/CCW tightening?
romangorchakov Yes, if you have the option to just buy all CW motors, then do that, and regular locknuts will be totally fine to hold your props no matter which way the motor spins.
Thanks a million!)
Amazing thanks for explanation
I use Sunny sky 4108 since 2012 always have standard lock (cc) with their orginal lock shaft never had problem just tightened them with thread lock.
I watched the whole video then he said just order all clockwise. Hahahaha. .. well that answers my question.
Cody Hahaha, GOTCHA! But really, Some people want to know the reasons behind it
Ōin Taylor oh totally understand it was a great video I'm working on building my first drone. The motors I'm looking at come with thread lock nuts so I should be fine
Very helpful
Very helpful and it also confuses me with this cw & ccw...... Thank’s
Jarold Villanueva glad to help. Basically if you want self tightening you have to have the nut tighten in the opposite way that the motor is spinning. Simple. The confusing part was that the CW or the CCW refers to the threads not to the motor spinning Direction.
Oin Taylor yeah! and I thought it was the motor that is spinning the other way around... 😂 thanks again and hope to see more videos... :-)
Thank you for the informative video. I have a doubt. Will a CW nut on a CCW motor make it a CW oriented thread that tightens when propeller goes CW? Or is it the thread on the shaft that makes it a CCW motor? Basically, I was thinking if it is the thread orientation on the nut that makes a CW or CCW motor? Please do share your thoughts.
It is the thread direction that provides the naming, not the spin direction
@@OinTaylor yes but thread direction on the nut or on the motor shaft? or both?
@@13thChip you will need to have the same nut on the same shaft, CCW to CCW, CW to CW. The idea is like you say, to try and have self-tightening nuts on the opposite corners.
@@OinTaylor thank you
Tanks i nead to know this, helpfull tanks again. ken1
good job
On the really small drones the motors dont' have threaded shafts, but they still want you to specify CW orCCW when ordering. So, still confused.
+rblenian When I look at the smaller sizes like 1104 or 1106, and the propeller are held on with screws, not with a nut on the prop shafts, I do not find any listings that specify CW or CCW. If they do not have a threaded shaft, you will be fine to order whichever type you like because you can reverse the rotation with switching the wires on the ESC or using the ESC configuration tool like BLHeli Suite.
Which direction does the bell spin if you keep wires straight from the ESC?
+Kevin Duquette that is going to depend on your motor and ESC combo. There is not a universal standard although it would be nice if there were.
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So, you're saying that it's fine to run 4 cw threaded motors , even tho all threads are cw , you sure the motor nuts won't undo themselves during flight , specifically for the ones in place of CCW threaded motors
Yes that is correct, but you have to be using locknuts (nyloc nuts). Regular nuts would loosen up.
@@OinTaylor sweet, thanks for the info 😊
@@OinTaylor i wa thinking of buying emax eco's and they are all CW. what should i do?
@@viradeus4322 you can get them and use nyloc nuts. You'll be fine.
I don't get why after all that, You say, 'get all clockwise motors'. I understand all you've said, i understand the concept using cw and ccw threads, just, how then do you get away with 'all', being clockwise motors?
owenkilleen If you just buy CW style, then any standard 5mm locknut you can get at the hardware store will work, you won't have to worry if you need reverse or left-handed nuts, regular "righty-tighty" will be what you need.
thanks :)
When the CCW motor starts spinning (CCW) the propeller and the locking bolt will have drag and inertia they will try to remain in their position OK...now this means the locking bolt will be like rotating opposite to the direction of motor shaft rotation.... so CW direction...this does mean that the locking nut will untightened/unscrewed and will come off the motor shaft....what the hell....
Your saying right about motor specification says CCW which is its threads... but the motor should turn CW and thats damn right no doubt...otherwise you will lose your prop in mid air...
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So finally
CCW motor has:-
-CCW threads
-Should turn in CW direction...
......(Teaching myself)
Prathamesh Lad sorry you didn't understand from the video, but that is what I said... Use a CW threaded motor in locations 2 and 3 which spin CCW and use a CCW threaded motor in locations 1 and 4 which spin CW.
Oin Taylor oh! really you said that..maybe I just didnt listen carefully...
Then your the boss man...
I just blew a motor and only had 1 spare motor for CCW but need it for the CW position. See your comments means I shouldn’t have a problem if I’m using the nyloc nut?
If I understand you correctly the only spare motor you have has CCW threading is that correct? If that is true and you have a reverse thread nylock nut, then you'll be fine. Motor spin direction is determined through the ESC settings or by switching 2 of the wires when soldering. A CCW labeled motor means the nut tightens by turning it to the left (reverse thread)
So if I have 4 CW motors and I reverse the polarity on 2 of them are you saying it wouldn't be recommended to use the 4 conical nuts? Instead use 2 conical nuts and 2 lock nuts or rather all lock nuts?
Gus S Best way to go is to use 4 locknuts. The nylon locking material will hold tight just fine. The conical nuts look nice but are functionally inferior to using regular CW (right-hand threaded) locknuts.
Hi so are you saying that it is ok to buy all CW motors and reverse 2 them in BLhel is there any danger in the locknuts undoing in flight?
+DroneMatesFPV yes, that is what I'm saying here. If you use locknuts, you'll be just fine.
I would like to share mine expirience with cw and ccw nuts. First i losti flight cw nut, it just fall of in the flight, then i bought cw nut, where u can find everywhere, and i put under shaft the spring clip, and i fixed the problem, then after few flights i lost ccw nut, then i ordered new set of 2 cw and 2 ccw nuts, and i put the spring clip/plate, on all motors, and i fixed the the problem, so many crashes everything was just perffect, until i lost mine xk 251, which is another story and mine unexpirience.
This only refers to brushless motors? since the rotation can be changed by the wiring? A brushed motor's ration can't be changed by simply wiring it a different way right? I mean if i buy the Racerstar coreless motor, i need to buy 2 cw and 2 ccw, or does the wiring determine if they go left and right? I watched the video, i'm still confused. Cause all drones need two blades that go left and 2 blades that go right? Please help, i've been researching but i'm stuck on this part. I learned how to change the rotation on brushless but i don't understand if brush motors need be bought 2 cw and 2 ccw.
ALIEN-Oo-_-oO You are right, brushed motors cannot change direction just by changing a wire around. Brushed usually only have 2 wires anyway. They are designed to only spin in one direction. If you are talking about coreless motors, those are still brushed motors as far as I know, so you do have to get 2 cw and 2 ccw. The wires are usually a different color to differentiate the 2 directions, usually the coreless motors are for the very small quads.
Oin Taylor Thanks for replying, i saw a video here on youtube, of someone who made a drone with 180 dc motors, it's so confusing cause in his description he doesn't mention buying 2 cw and 2 ccw motors, but in video there's an image showing 2 have to be cw and 2 ccw, i was so confused about this, i thought he bought them all cw, so he prolly bought 2 cw and 2 ccw right? i would link you the video but i dont think its allowed here.
Oin Taylor actually on the brushed u can ive done it nothing burnt up motors changed direction cus each has like its own bec acting like an esc built in to the board and thats what your soldering to ive only had brushless burn from confusing wires and
you can change directions..but it's not efficient...just incase you get into other E skateboard or go karts still using brushed motors....That's why some people
install a jack shaft to make the a motor spins in sort of the proper direction
Notice Powerwheels. They can go in reverse....but one side of the motor isnt turning in the proper direction. One motor is doing more work than the other.
I have 4 CW motors on my drone, any tip to hold tight the props on the two that looses when it spins ?
If you have all CW motors, then I would simply use regular M5 nyloc nuts on all motors and not try to bother with self-tightening.
@@OinTaylor I'm using the original nut, but it's becoming loose, maybe I'll use some kind of thread lock ... thanks bro
@@MrLuccasMF if you use threadlock, only go with the blue. I would look for another nut in the meantime. And actually 2 of your motors could never be self-tightening since you say they are all 4 CW, so you really have to use nyloc nuts.
Question. I added my motors on my quadcopter, but I put the back ones wrong, back left is cw, and back right is ccw, and the nuts got trethed so I can't take one of the motors off. Can I still finish building my drone and have it fly right, or should I just get a new one and put them in the right order.
+Francisco L sorry it's been 4 days I just got this notification. If you have ESC that use blheli then you can reverse the motor rotational Direction in the blheli suite basically reprogramming those back to Motors to spin the opposite way that they are spinning. Hopefully you're able to remove the prop nuts and put the propellers on in the correct orientation. If your es C do not run blheli and do not allow for reversing the motor rotational Direction then yeah you're going to need to physically switch the motors around on the arms.
Oin Taylor Got it. Thanks for the info.
do most drones use the m5 nut now for the 200 size.???
ATRAIU all the motors I have use the M5 nuts. Motors in the 18xx 22xx 23xx size.
appreciate it thanks
Hello,for f550 hexacopter ,6 ccw required ?
It easier just to say that the prop and motor has to be running in the opposite direction to the nut
So if i have 4 CW motors, do i have to change two of the motors to spin CCW? Would the nuts on the props get loose though?
The direction the motors spin is controlled either by setting the direction using the BLHELI software configuration or by physically swapping 2 of the wires from the motor on the ESC. As for the prop nuts, if you are using NYLOCK (nyloc) nuts for your CW motors, they shouldn't come off of the shafts no matter which direction the motors spin. The nylon insert will hold them just fine if you have tightened them correctly.
@@OinTaylor Thank you for the reply. I'm putting together a cloned Mavic pro drone that i 3d printed, the reason i asked is because i'm ordering 4 Racerstar 2212 motors and they are all CW. Thanks again.
Either a kitty cat at 45 seconds or someone’s got a case of mudd butt....
Cat always comes in when I need it quiet
So i can buy either all ccw or cw motors and just change their rotation with the esc. Am i right????
Samridh Patial yes you can change the rotation direction with the ESC or by swapping 2 of the wires when you solder them. I would recommend getting CW motors for all 4 so that you can use standard nuts or locknuts on the prop shafts. if you got all CCW motors, you would need reverse threaded nuts, harder to find.
Thanks for the video. But if you used all four CW motors, wouldn't two of the motors not be self-tightening? Are the lock nuts strong enough to withstand the force?
David Xiao yes locknuts are strong enough to hold the prop down no matter which direction they spin.
Samridh Patial yep but becare not to mix up your polarity i did n had 2 motors smoke right in my room so i just learned the hard way to just always do it in order and if i need to change direction just do it in blheli
They just making ccw nuts, to force you to buy them, because they are rared from gold, and Chinese manufacturers decided to make ccw nuts and make profit from parts, i think and i am pretty sure that all nuts could be cw nuts and solution is more simpler then making ccw shaft and nuts. First example is putting two nuts, one to screw propeler, and another nut to screw first nut, it would never fall of, talking from mine dad, and he is machine ingeneer, simple.
nice, very cool
what will happened if I use four counter clockwise motors??
marc justyn roxas you would really need to have 4 reverse threaded nuts (left-hand thread) to hold you props on. Right-hand threaded nuts are the standard, so much easier to get at your local hardware store. Going with 4 CCW motors just makes things hard on yourself, but if that's all you have or it's a really good deal, then good luck to you!
because yeah, two motors are spinning CW and CCW, I have these set of emax motors and it's all CCW, two motors will do self locking, I'm thinking if I'm going to fine about spinning on clockwise motors.. with CCW threads.
marc justyn roxas just crank those nuts real tight on the 2 motors that will spin CW (motors 1&4 if you're on Betaflight) or you can try to use the really easy Lock-tite which is the purple kind I think. Or just try to find 2 left-hand threaded lock-nuts (m5 usually) at the store or online. Lock-nuts are the safest way to go. If you have to go online to order 2, you may as well order a bunch so you can use the reverse threaded lock nuts on all four of your Motors
I am building a *RC PLANE* which one should i get?
CW
TL;DW: Get all CW motors from the start and use locking nuts. Then you don't have to buy different motors and spares just for CW and CCW
Nevin Leiby om induction. motor
Sorry but isn't that backwards? Think about if your motors props and nut are spinning at 10,000 rpm and the nut is loose or becomes loose due to vibration or whatever and you cut throttle then the momentum of the nut and also the prop pushing up on it would then actually loosen it and cause the nut to fly off therefore the nut should always tighten in the same direction the motor/prop spin. .??
Don Johnson if the nuts were to tighten the same way the motor is spinning, they would never be able to bottom out (reach full tightness). the nuts have to be opposite of the direction of spin for any of this to work, and even still it's not 100%. I think it's more about strikes than just momentum anyway. And safest of all is to get 4 CW motors and use nylock nuts. No need to worry about self tightening then at all.
Sir I was have 2 cw and 2 ccw motors but the i see the one of the cw motors seller sent me is not working. And I can not be able to find cw motor and i just ordered ccw motor. Can i make my quad with 3 ccw and 1 cw? The seller said me Ican use lockable nuts. Is it true? Please help me, thanks.
Yes this is true but if you have a CCW motor you will need to find a left hand thread lock nut which are not as common but they are available you will have to search around online mostly to find them.
@@OinTaylor ou can not use the counter-clockwise nut, because the pin of the motor is
clockwise, The motors are already manufactured with the correct position
@@fabvelloso you can make the motor spin either direction you want by switching wires or setting the direction with the ESC firmware. If he needs to use a CCW motor in the position of a CW motor, he just needs to use a Reverse Thread locknut to hold the prop. This will work just fine.
@@OinTaylor Problem is the Screw thread of the motor pin,
Counter nut will not work
@@fabvelloso I think we are not understanding each other. He said he had a CW motor that went bad and he could only replace it with a CCW. this will work fine as long as he uses a reverse thread lock nut on the prop shaft. When you say motor pin, are you talking about the prop shaft or something else?
Very helpful for newbie like me
can u say how to connect motor in clock wise and anti clock wise using esc
each motor has 3 wires. After you solder the wires and are testing the motor, if it is not spinning the direction you want it, just unsolder 2 of the wires and switch them around and resolder. That will spin it the other direction. Or you can change the motor direction using blheli suite program.
so basically you want to tighten up the nut in the opposite direction the motor is spinning
Wayne keeling Yes. Seeing as how Reverse thread nuts are hard to come by through normal means, it is better, if possible, to just purchase all CW motors and use standard threaded Nyloc nuts on all of them.
Oin Taylor will in future but my very first build has just arrived it's a robocat 270, and has 2 of each cw and ccw
Wayne keeling Yeah, that's typical, 2 of each. Mine was the same.
Which one is better for gimbal?
CW with a locknut.
In coreless motor how to recognise of the wire colour is same
I've never seen coreless motors with threaded prop shafts, or more than 2 wires either. Maybe other people might answer this question.
What is different in cw or ccw motor??
The only thing different in CW and CCW motors is the direction the threads are cut on the prop shaft. The motor parts (bell, stator, magnets, bearings or bushings) are all the same.
Very helpful thanks!!
J u r k o FPV glad to help