Minor correction, Issam Asinga was the 'first' high schooler to run sub 10, but after his ban they said his record was stripped, therefore making Christian Miller the new 'first'. Although, Asinga's times still stand on the official world athletics leaderboard... So, I'm not actually sure who is officially first, or if Asinga's records have been stripped. Regardless kids shouldn't be this fast.
love your vids dude btw i am a long jumper 13 years old almost 14 and i have 5.52 oficial 5.70 pb in training but still i love you ,you are the best track and field youtuber
This information is for the USA only? Because Bouwahgie Nkrumie ran a legal 9.99 in high school the same year he came second in the junior world championship...
Womens u20 sprints had like 80% of their 100m and 200m records set between 2018 and 2021. Payton Payne (born 2007), Shawnti Jackson (2005), Tina Clayton (2004), Briana Williams (2002), Adaejah Hodge (2006), and even Melanie Doggett (2011!) could be called the new resurgence in teenage phenoms on the womens side. This coincides with the likely legitimate 100m world record of 10.54 by Elain Thompson-Herah, so there is an upwards trend for all short sprints that will ultimately culminate in the most hype olympics in 2028! Also, Trayvon Bromell ran 9.84 (+1.3) at 19 years old at the USA Track Championships. This is the fastest time by a 19 year old. Source: International Age Records Compiled by Dominique Eisold
Funny you mention the doggets, idk how many siblings she has but there's atleast 3 of them fast as heck! And Eisolds record keeping is incredible. Ive thanked him via email hahaha
right on the money. basically agreed with everything said in this video. i saw divine running at our national schools competition and it doesn’t look real, his stride is so smooth
As amazing as their U16 & U18 performances are, their U20 performances will in general be a better predictor of success at the Senior level, so keeping my fingers crossed for their development 🤞 Ridiculous that some are already trying to write off a 20yr old Knighton who's been in 4 consecutive WC/OLY 200m Finals & medalled twice, just insane! Would like to see him in '25 run more 100s & try to run low 9.9s/high 9.8s. Gotta s/o the sheer number of great Female U20 Sprint Talent from the last 2yrs that I hope also all make it as Seniors; Tamari Davis, Shawnti Jackson, Alana Reid, Claytons, JaMeesia Ford, Brianna Lyston, Kaila Jackson, Mia BP, Adaejah Hodge, Kerrica Hill, Torrie Lewis, Tima Godbless, Kaylyn Brown, Lurdes Gloria Manuel, Ella Onojuvwevwo & Akala Garrett.
completely agree that it's beyond insanity to write Knighton off. He's at the very START of his curve. Casual fans of track, especially "youtube track" just follow the latest "bright and shiny object". There are very few actual real trackheads here, just casuals who tune dumbly into "influencers" and other mindless bullshit.
@@Dave-lr2wo Dreading what those ppl are going to be like if for example Guot Guot either doesn't make next yr's WC 200m Final or makes the Final but finishes in the bottom half of the race!
5:20 Yes, because for World Athletics the birth year matters, means the age you have at December 31st. For that it's the best to be born the 1st of January and the worst to be born the 31st of December.
As of right now, I think Tebogo still has improvements in his times in him, as does Gout since their frames are built for it. I fear Wilson, Miller and Iheme might have 'peaked'/'matured' too soon which could leave them with less improvements in the coming years than Tebogo and Gout. Knighton is a special case. With a proper season next year I definitely see him becoming more consistently in the 19.7s, or even 19.6s range. I just don't think he has the start (not sub-10 yet over 100m) nor the finish to run the times Tebogo's running at the moment. This is because I personally think his 19.49 wasn't legitimate as it was at a low-level meet and if I were to guess, the wind gauge was faulty in that run.
I’m so glad you spoke about juniors who never make it further, happens a lot, with that aside as an Aussie I’m all in on Gout Gout, fingers crossed because let’s face it, track is not an Australian strong point.
I think Gout has a huge amount of potential. The scary bit is that in August his personal best was 20.69, before breaking it down to 20.60, 20.29 and 20.04
4:02 endurance enhancers as a sprinter? well jumpman what do anabolic steroids do? do they increase strength? no. do they increase reaction time? no. do they make someone faster? no. do they increase someones endurance? yes. endurance and recovery are all PEDs need to do, all other gains indirectly come from those two things. if you can train longer and recover quicker you have the open door to achieving a high level of fitness providing you put in the hard work and effort, it also enables talented but lazy athletes to get into the kind of shape they need to be to show their real potential (Bolt) It technically allows normal levels to be surpassed and thats where the unfair advantage comes in but to really see what is beyond normal performance you have to compare to an athlete that basically does everything perfectly, has extremely good genetics and trains harder than anyone else historically thats a very high standard that most PED users never achieve, the real mark left by PED use is the cutting of the corners of training, allowing someone to perform in amazing shape much earlier than they would normally be able to, think Lionel Messi in football PEDs do not change genetics and someones natural talent, especially in sprinting is going to be their true ceiling of performance that cant be forced higher with known PEDs (Marion Jones) therefore the times you see someone run in a race that is 100m is going to be largely honest, regardless of PED use, its only the consistency that is improved So when you see someone like Asinga or Gout Gout it really is natural talent regardless of whether drugs are in their system, its basically impossible to give a bang average athlete all the PEDs they want and have them breaking records, it wont happen (still in context to mens 100m, this does not apply for distance running where endurance is everything) So my whole point here is to say Asingas ban is nonsense, he is still the record holder, people that can run these times are exceptional and should be celebrated 🙂 I also think for majors like the WC and Olympics there should be at least 20 places in each event given to the best standards in the event that havnt qualified yet rather than the allocated number for each nation, theres too many talented kids who deserve to run
The effects of anabolics on reflex components is under research and the current answer definitely is NOT that they "definitely do not improve reaction time". The reason for this is that the increased ability to contract more rapidly is a function ALSO OF strength, not only "time to signal". So the question your assuming the answer to is much more complex that the (incorrect) conclusion that anabolics don't improve reaction time. There is even research into eye tracking improvement due to small changes in eye muscle responsiveness, which makes a big difference if you're hitting a 100-mph baseball. So ask yourself: is this "faster reaction" because of faster synaptic information, or the ability to move motor components more quickly due to increased contractile capacity? Not straightforward. And don't assume "no" at all. Spend some time in journals to see what researchers are actually doing. Don't throw pretend answers around.
@@Dave-lr2wo thanks for the reply, like you said it isnt straightforward, PEDs do give a lot of advantages that arent just endurance and recovery but I would say that endurance and recovery are direct advantages and the others are indirect because of them. Of course PEDs is a vague term that covers a wide range of performance enhancers some of which are dramatically different to others, dangerous drugs like amphetamines absolutely do increase more than endurance/recovery but my focus was on PEDs that are used commonly in pro sports and that can be used safely which is why I support those, certainly dont want people getting heart attacks and dying in races like they did in the Tour De France many decades ago. Typically in modern times athletes cycle off PEDs for competition to test clean but keep the gains for months after , the effective drugs for this are absolutely the endurance/recovery ones like anabolic steroids, TRT etc hope that clarifies my point a bit, thanks for commenting because it along with the responses helps anyone reading gain a bit more depth into it and where to research to further develop understandings. Marion Jones is such an important case study because she wasnt cycling off she was running on them, she never improved her times over 8 years never improved reaction times but was incredibly consistent and able to basically realize her potential in every competition, a lot of food for thought. My aim in making points about PEDs is to desensitize peoples opinions about them, making obvious how top athletes need to dedicate their efforts to make any of it work and to help people not to be polarized into thinking about cheaters and negative perceptions about athletes. It can and should all be enjoyed 🙂
man the gb cycling team was so great, alongside sky they just blew everyone out of the water, now its dwindling again because the investment fell off so weird spending a decade plus making the sport strong again to lets just forget about it
Team Sky is in a sport that was actively fighting innovation and improvement. Cycling has been dragged kicking and screaming into the 21st century with performance improvements across the peloton
I feel as though young talent is just talent that shows at a young age. There are plenty of elite sprinters who develop later (Fred Kerley being a Juco walk on and Asafa Powell running 11.4~ at 17). So I do think we’ve not seen the true talent of this upcoming generation until they’re in their mid 20s or so. That next kerley or Powell is rolled somewhere in juco or somewhere in the Caribbean and is simply developing later. We should view these extreme young talents as more exceptions and not rules. Yes Usain and a bunch of others were young talents, but being a young talent doesn’t prime you for success as much as you may think.
I love thinking of them getting rolled, but ur really right my man. It's going to be crazy seeing these kids coming through and the hidden gems as well. This generation going to be nuts.
Who do you guys think was more impressive, 16 year old 44.20 400m runner Quincy Wilson OR 16 year old 20.04 200m runner Gout Gout? Also never heard of Iheme - seems to be someone to watch.
It's tough to really know. But I'm leaning more on the side of he isnt because he still runs so stiff, almost like bolt at 15-17, except with less of that scoliosis lean.
No one mentions gary card 10.07 at age 17 with no wind at sea level (Jamaican national stadium) after 3 rounds is no joke. Yall can go on glazing gout gout AND ALSO A 20.50 200M WHILE running 5 rounds with a wind legal +1.5 at sea level. He is no joke. My man is really glazing boonson and tebogo for running fast at altitude
The issue is that Card LOOKS more physically developed than someone like Gout which if often a bad thing to be at such a young age. My bets are he'll go sub-10 and sub-20 JUST at some point but not more than that, unfortunately.
@AthleticsEditz tbf to card he does train in the professional setup of mvp already with the likes of Kishane and Shericka. So considering they have been the ones developing him for the past couple of years, while he does look well developed I would be very suprised if he is one to peak in high school
I'm afraid Knighton is fucked. He got caught ("NOT") microdosing doping once and will probably be too afraid to do "what is needed" to get that last bit of muscle development to really rise above the rest.
Minor correction, Issam Asinga was the 'first' high schooler to run sub 10, but after his ban they said his record was stripped, therefore making Christian Miller the new 'first'. Although, Asinga's times still stand on the official world athletics leaderboard...
So, I'm not actually sure who is officially first, or if Asinga's records have been stripped. Regardless kids shouldn't be this fast.
Christian miller "first" **Bouwagie Nkrumie listening in the background**
love your vids dude btw i am a long jumper 13 years old almost 14 and i have 5.52 oficial 5.70 pb in training but still i love you ,you are the best track and field youtuber
This information is for the USA only? Because Bouwahgie Nkrumie ran a legal 9.99 in high school the same year he came second in the junior world championship...
i still can't believe erriyon ran 19.49 thats a ridiculous time at any age let alone 18
Finally some Iheme propaganda
Knighton should’ve been the 200m cover. 19.4 at 18… people forget because he went pro so early!
He been around so long people think he's mid 20's haha
Womens u20 sprints had like 80% of their 100m and 200m records set between 2018 and 2021. Payton Payne (born 2007), Shawnti Jackson (2005), Tina Clayton (2004), Briana Williams (2002), Adaejah Hodge (2006), and even Melanie Doggett (2011!) could be called the new resurgence in teenage phenoms on the womens side. This coincides with the likely legitimate 100m world record of 10.54 by Elain Thompson-Herah, so there is an upwards trend for all short sprints that will ultimately culminate in the most hype olympics in 2028!
Also, Trayvon Bromell ran 9.84 (+1.3) at 19 years old at the USA Track Championships. This is the fastest time by a 19 year old. Source: International Age Records Compiled by Dominique Eisold
Funny you mention the doggets, idk how many siblings she has but there's atleast 3 of them fast as heck!
And Eisolds record keeping is incredible. Ive thanked him via email hahaha
right on the money. basically agreed with everything said in this video.
i saw divine running at our national schools competition and it doesn’t look real, his stride is so smooth
Also there is Samuel Ogazi from Nigeria who got to the Paris Olympic final in the 400m and came 7th, and he is only 18.
Ima be the next teenage prospect for the middle distance watch me dont forget the name 😅🐊
Hold up…
11:23 Christian Miller turned 18 on May 16th, means he has only 2025 left to break Letsile Tebogos U20 WR.
Thank you for the correction! Makes it more interesting for sure.
As amazing as their U16 & U18 performances are, their U20 performances will in general be a better predictor of success at the Senior level, so keeping my fingers crossed for their development 🤞 Ridiculous that some are already trying to write off a 20yr old Knighton who's been in 4 consecutive WC/OLY 200m Finals & medalled twice, just insane! Would like to see him in '25 run more 100s & try to run low 9.9s/high 9.8s. Gotta s/o the sheer number of great Female U20 Sprint Talent from the last 2yrs that I hope also all make it as Seniors; Tamari Davis, Shawnti Jackson, Alana Reid, Claytons, JaMeesia Ford, Brianna Lyston, Kaila Jackson, Mia BP, Adaejah Hodge, Kerrica Hill, Torrie Lewis, Tima Godbless, Kaylyn Brown, Lurdes Gloria Manuel, Ella Onojuvwevwo & Akala Garrett.
You know your shit my guy a true fan of the sport
@@forevergoated999 👍
completely agree that it's beyond insanity to write Knighton off. He's at the very START of his curve. Casual fans of track, especially "youtube track" just follow the latest "bright and shiny object". There are very few actual real trackheads here, just casuals who tune dumbly into "influencers" and other mindless bullshit.
@@Dave-lr2wo Dreading what those ppl are going to be like if for example Guot Guot either doesn't make next yr's WC 200m Final or makes the Final but finishes in the bottom half of the race!
Don't forget Brianna Lystons age group world record at 12.
Cooper lutkenhaus ran 1:47 in the 800 at 15 years old 👀
0:37 Issam Assinga was doping, so his U20WR and South American record was erased
I thought so, but it still shows on Wikipedia and world athletics. Quite confusing.
5:20 Yes, because for World Athletics the birth year matters, means the age you have at December 31st. For that it's the best to be born the 1st of January and the worst to be born the 31st of December.
I personally think it's a bit silly but oh well. Gout born in December is gutted haha
Great vids man!
As of right now, I think Tebogo still has improvements in his times in him, as does Gout since their frames are built for it. I fear Wilson, Miller and Iheme might have 'peaked'/'matured' too soon which could leave them with less improvements in the coming years than Tebogo and Gout. Knighton is a special case. With a proper season next year I definitely see him becoming more consistently in the 19.7s, or even 19.6s range. I just don't think he has the start (not sub-10 yet over 100m) nor the finish to run the times Tebogo's running at the moment. This is because I personally think his 19.49 wasn't legitimate as it was at a low-level meet and if I were to guess, the wind gauge was faulty in that run.
1:35 And he broke the U18 WR three times
I’m so glad you spoke about juniors who never make it further, happens a lot, with that aside as an Aussie I’m all in on Gout Gout, fingers crossed because let’s face it, track is not an Australian strong point.
I think Gout has a huge amount of potential. The scary bit is that in August his personal best was 20.69, before breaking it down to 20.60, 20.29 and 20.04
@ agreed
Thank you for noting gout refers to himself as gout
I be out here journalising!
4:02 endurance enhancers as a sprinter? well jumpman what do anabolic steroids do? do they increase strength? no. do they increase reaction time? no. do they make someone faster? no. do they increase someones endurance? yes.
endurance and recovery are all PEDs need to do, all other gains indirectly come from those two things.
if you can train longer and recover quicker you have the open door to achieving a high level of fitness providing you put in the hard work and effort, it also enables talented but lazy athletes to get into the kind of shape they need to be to show their real potential (Bolt)
It technically allows normal levels to be surpassed and thats where the unfair advantage comes in but to really see what is beyond normal performance you have to compare to an athlete that basically does everything perfectly, has extremely good genetics and trains harder than anyone else
historically thats a very high standard that most PED users never achieve, the real mark left by PED use is the cutting of the corners of training, allowing someone to perform in amazing shape much earlier than they would normally be able to, think Lionel Messi in football
PEDs do not change genetics and someones natural talent, especially in sprinting is going to be their true ceiling of performance that cant be forced higher with known PEDs (Marion Jones)
therefore the times you see someone run in a race that is 100m is going to be largely honest, regardless of PED use, its only the consistency that is improved
So when you see someone like Asinga or Gout Gout it really is natural talent regardless of whether drugs are in their system, its basically impossible to give a bang average athlete all the PEDs they want and have them breaking records, it wont happen (still in context to mens 100m, this does not apply for distance running where endurance is everything)
So my whole point here is to say Asingas ban is nonsense, he is still the record holder, people that can run these times are exceptional and should be celebrated 🙂
I also think for majors like the WC and Olympics there should be at least 20 places in each event given to the best standards in the event that havnt qualified yet rather than the allocated number for each nation, theres too many talented kids who deserve to run
The effects of anabolics on reflex components is under research and the current answer definitely is NOT that they "definitely do not improve reaction time". The reason for this is that the increased ability to contract more rapidly is a function ALSO OF strength, not only "time to signal". So the question your assuming the answer to is much more complex that the (incorrect) conclusion that anabolics don't improve reaction time. There is even research into eye tracking improvement due to small changes in eye muscle responsiveness, which makes a big difference if you're hitting a 100-mph baseball. So ask yourself: is this "faster reaction" because of faster synaptic information, or the ability to move motor components more quickly due to increased contractile capacity? Not straightforward. And don't assume "no" at all. Spend some time in journals to see what researchers are actually doing. Don't throw pretend answers around.
@@Dave-lr2wo thanks for the reply, like you said it isnt straightforward, PEDs do give a lot of advantages that arent just endurance and recovery but I would say that endurance and recovery are direct advantages and the others are indirect because of them. Of course PEDs is a vague term that covers a wide range of performance enhancers some of which are dramatically different to others, dangerous drugs like amphetamines absolutely do increase more than endurance/recovery but my focus was on PEDs that are used commonly in pro sports and that can be used safely which is why I support those, certainly dont want people getting heart attacks and dying in races like they did in the Tour De France many decades ago. Typically in modern times athletes cycle off PEDs for competition to test clean but keep the gains for months after , the effective drugs for this are absolutely the endurance/recovery ones like anabolic steroids, TRT etc hope that clarifies my point a bit, thanks for commenting because it along with the responses helps anyone reading gain a bit more depth into it and where to research to further develop understandings. Marion Jones is such an important case study because she wasnt cycling off she was running on them, she never improved her times over 8 years never improved reaction times but was incredibly consistent and able to basically realize her potential in every competition, a lot of food for thought. My aim in making points about PEDs is to desensitize peoples opinions about them, making obvious how top athletes need to dedicate their efforts to make any of it work and to help people not to be polarized into thinking about cheaters and negative perceptions about athletes. It can and should all be enjoyed 🙂
man the gb cycling team was so great, alongside sky they just blew everyone out of the water, now its dwindling again because the investment fell off so weird spending a decade plus making the sport strong again to lets just forget about it
Blame jim radcliffe. Guy is cancerous, runs sports like a cost cutting business. Took an elite team and ran them into the ground.
Team Sky was gaming the system for years with their use of TUEs
Team Sky is in a sport that was actively fighting innovation and improvement. Cycling has been dragged kicking and screaming into the 21st century with performance improvements across the peloton
its 2023 and 2024 races !! why does their video quality look to be from 2007
Gout gout 9.62
I think he’s got more potential over the 200
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I don't think citing British cycling as an example is a good idea with all the doping (accusations) surrounding it
Sprinting, cycling, doping, all the same!
I feel as though young talent is just talent that shows at a young age. There are plenty of elite sprinters who develop later (Fred Kerley being a Juco walk on and Asafa Powell running 11.4~ at 17). So I do think we’ve not seen the true talent of this upcoming generation until they’re in their mid 20s or so. That next kerley or Powell is rolled somewhere in juco or somewhere in the Caribbean and is simply developing later. We should view these extreme young talents as more exceptions and not rules. Yes Usain and a bunch of others were young talents, but being a young talent doesn’t prime you for success as much as you may think.
I love thinking of them getting rolled, but ur really right my man. It's going to be crazy seeing these kids coming through and the hidden gems as well. This generation going to be nuts.
Who do you guys think was more impressive, 16 year old 44.20 400m runner Quincy Wilson OR 16 year old 20.04 200m runner Gout Gout? Also never heard of Iheme - seems to be someone to watch.
Gout Gout may be more developed than we think. He's South Sudan origin they don't gain much mass no matter how much they lift weights and work out
It's tough to really know. But I'm leaning more on the side of he isnt because he still runs so stiff, almost like bolt at 15-17, except with less of that scoliosis lean.
I hope Christian Miller continues to improve lol but great observation on his physique and race mechanics
3:18 LMAOOOOOO
I’m next up trust.
I'll keep my eye out
this is uckin absurd
I know, right?
No one mentions gary card 10.07 at age 17 with no wind at sea level (Jamaican national stadium) after 3 rounds is no joke. Yall can go on glazing gout gout AND ALSO A 20.50 200M WHILE running 5 rounds with a wind legal +1.5 at sea level. He is no joke. My man is really glazing boonson and tebogo for running fast at altitude
Please refrain from using the term "glazing" ever again.
The issue is that Card LOOKS more physically developed than someone like Gout which if often a bad thing to be at such a young age. My bets are he'll go sub-10 and sub-20 JUST at some point but not more than that, unfortunately.
@AthleticsEditz tbf to card he does train in the professional setup of mvp already with the likes of Kishane and Shericka. So considering they have been the ones developing him for the past couple of years, while he does look well developed I would be very suprised if he is one to peak in high school
@harveywilliams5485 I mean it'd be unfortunate if so! Hopefully he turns out great, like some of the other Jamaicans such as Kishane and Seville!
knighton aint a bust, but what is worrying is the lack of progression, and then the tsinted meat drama.
I'm afraid Knighton is fucked. He got caught ("NOT") microdosing doping once and will probably be too afraid to do "what is needed" to get that last bit of muscle development to really rise above the rest.
Really interesting take Jonny, we'll see ay
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