I also depends on the task that you're trying to solve while typing. I'm a touch typist, and I feel like the not-having-to-look-aspect is much more valuable than the speed in which I type for example while programming. Or if you're taking notes in a lecture you don't want to be looking down on your keyboard. I also notice that typing takes mental resources, so if you're just re-typing a given text, then you get much higher speeds than when you have to come up with the content of what you're typing at the same time.
This is exactly one of the two most important reasons why I started to learn touch typing: to keep my attention on the screen and to do less mistakes, or when I do them, to correct them more easily without looking at the keyboard. I'm still not very fast, but I'm glad I started to learn this skill. There is another aspect of the learning itself, I believe - activation of this part of the brain which controls mapping of typing to movements and type of imagination connected with that. In this respect, it's a mental excercise.
I don't look at the keyboard whilst I type, even though I only use two fingers for the actual letters. I did the hunt and peck method for so many years I memorized QWERTY and started to use other fingers for the buttons such as backspace, tab and enter.
Find a sample of people who actually use their keyboard and can actually reach fast speeds (>100 WPM). THEN draw conclusions like "the number of fingers used does not affect typing speed". I'm confident that the majority of this sample will use most, if not all of their fingers. It's fine to assess average typists, but you can't draw any meaningful conclusion on optimal typing technique from them. What this study did is basically like drawing a conclusion like "the shoes a runner wears does not affect their running speed" by analyzing random pedestrians. A person running with snow boots CAN run as fast as someone wearing running shoes, but give that same person a pair of running shoes and the difference will be significant. Nobody in the Olympics is going to run with boots on.
Yeah, if only I had learned some better form when I was younger, now Im hard stuck 100wpm plateau with my unorthodox “right hand middle finger strictly handles everything on the right including spacebar” and switching up is gonna be hard
@@coolmemesbudd just make the change, i was typing with something similar a year ago at 100wpm and when i started touch typing, i got like 20wpm at first but now i'm at ~120wpm.
True. My record is like 170 wpm (on 10ff site) and I don't use pinkys at all. I noticed that people who type >200 wpm use pinkys as well. I can feel that my method is not optimal because sometimes, in certain words, I slow so much, because I need to press few buttons with 1 finger. I'd like to see comparison between for example 150 WPM typists who use both 10 and 8 fingers, and also 200 wpm typers.
Is it weird that this is what i found: Typing with Your Toes Lift your second toe, and only your second toe; place it back down, Lift your third toe, solo, place it back down. Lift each of your toes independently of the others. Practice this every day and in 30 years, you will be able to type with your toes!
+Merry According to their study, there were "30 everyday typists, selected to span a wide range of typing performance (from 34 to 79 wpm)". I suspect that anything above 80 would start to require that you touch type (even if you don't use traditional zones for fingers). Before I learned to touch type, I could only get up to 55/60 wpm on 10fastfingers, and I had to keep looking up and down so I was limited. But now I can fairly easily get >100, and I cannot imagine being able to do that while having to look at my fingers all the time.
+Dominic Muller I've found that I actually never use my pinkies for typing at all, and I do a lot of typing and coding fairly often. Never really noticed it though, but I'd say based on the video I'm somewhere between an index finger and middle finger typer. Depending on the test I've found I range from 80-110 WPM, usually the only slipups I end up having are in words that I don't use as often or words that my fingers 'autocorrect' into on accident. My right hand always manages pressing shift or enter, with my left hand taking over for the duration that I'm holding shift. The weird thing is though that I subconsciously look at where my fingers are typing in my peripheral vision, I have to revert to touch typing in the dark or in virtual reality.
+Dominic Muller I don't use my pinky for anything besides really shift and my typing speed is at around 115 or so they do have a point in that you don't need to use all 10 fingers to type fast.
Touch typing helps you type without looking at the keyboard If you have any other way you can type without looking at the keyboard, go for it. But touch typing would be the easiest. You certainly cannot type with one or two fingers without looking at the keyboard with 100% accuracy. When you use only one or two fingers you have to move your fingers all the way around the keyboard while using 10 fingers, the movement of fingers is pretty much reduced, and I think that really increases the speed.
I was curious about the "looking down" part, as someone who taught myself (school also tried teaching me, but i definitely dont touch the way they tried teaching me) I dont have to look down at my keyboard ever unless my keys get stuck or something, which nigh ever happens. I do however have to be able to see the keyboard in my peripheral vision, if im typing with no light i do end up with worse accuracy (although the light from my monitor is usually enough)
This might hold true for slow typist but I'd like to see some data on fast typist e.g based on speeds of 100+ WPM, what percentage of them are touch typist? I guess once you reach a certain speed, touch typist dominate over non-touch typist
I actually learned today what touch typing is. I'm a touch typer but only with the left hand, what i mean by that is that i use all fingers of my left hand, and only 2 from my right end (one being for the enter and backward key only). I still have the entire keyboard memorized and never have to look down to it. About typing speed, i test it from times to times, my average speed for typing without efforts is 80 to 95 depending on the words (my main language also has a lot of special characters) and my peak is between 100 and 110. So yeah, complete touch typing must be optimal but i guess to each his own, i've never been able to type with more than 2 fingers from my right hand.
@@thesunryze4658 Your ability to touch type is great! Using more than 2 fingers will likely increase your speed. Touch typing and typing with all fingers doesn't come naturally. It is a skill that you develop over time through practice.
@@TouchedAlot Honestly using all 10 fingers really isn't as important as you think, many of the best typists in the world at like 170wpm+ don't use the perfect way of laying all their fingers on the home row and using all 10 how it's 'best' to do it. Like I'm not the best typist myself I only type like 90-100wpm but I use 3 fingers on my left hand and 2 on my right, and the only thing holding me back is a lack of practice. I don't see why I couldn't get to around 150wpm typing like this if I put the time in but where you have to get to literally 3 words a second to make having more fingers on the keyboard count, I don't think it's a point that needs to be emphasised at all
@@jademwah You don't need to use 10 fingers to type 170wpm+ but the more fingers you use, the easier it is as each finger does less movement. It may be fastest for people with broken fingers to use less than 10, but learning to using all 10 fingers results in the fastest typing speed for people with 10 working fingers.
I read the paper and in my opinion the conclusion that you can type fast with a smaller amount of fingers is false. When you compare the images shown in Figure 7 and 8, and a table of the most common used characters (which is the base of the DVORAK Layout), you can see that subjects tend to adapt the ten-finger-typing system for their left hands, and mostly just one finger for the right hand. The left hand covers nearly all of the most common used characters. I think this is a prove that the TFT-System is more efficient, and ignoring it for the right hand just does not have any impact on the typing performance due to the insignificancy of the characters covered by it. So people who are self-thought at ten-finger-typing probably subconsciously already knew that and didn't make the effort to learn it, resulting in being as much as efficient as people who learned TFT by the book
This is so cool for a typical typer like me. My daughter is struggling to learn to type and I only then reallized, that I not use the 10 fingers that I learned and practiced for hours upon hours throughout school. I was so slow with that method, and I am so much faster with 6 fingers that I use now.
This is very interesting. Having taken a typing class in high school and having a mother who taught typing, ten key, shorthand, and other office skills to adults, it's only natural that I'm a touch typist. It would be interesting to see what the results would be with these various methods if used on a typewriter as opposed to a keyboard.
+Jesper Josefsson This is, because you´ve LEARNED! Sometimes it looks like more and more projects an studys go to: "Don´t need to learn because learning is generally too exhausting and bad." Sometimes it tastes as: Go the easiest way. Ideologic lobbying by "laissez faires"?
0:19 totally disagree. You physically have to reach further for keys using eg 2 fingers (as so many do today). The full hand on the other hand has fingers directly above the full keyboard. Also, maybe the 2-index-finger typists are used to trying to be faster because it's not economical in the first place, so that affects statistics.
And did you let touch typers adjust to the keyboard? If I personally type on a new keyboard it takes me like a day or two before I get to my peak performance. I'd say this is not as big of a problem for non-touch typers as they have a visual aid by watching their fingers...
i think your typing speed depends on how used u are to it like there are some people who used their index and middle fingers to type only and they can type fast because they are so used to it, it is their habit. everyone has their own strategy of typing, it depends on which fingers you prefer to use, which fingers are stronger. the longer u practice typing, the faster you would become. like people who like playing games from a young age, they click the keyboard so many times until it becomes so natural and intuitive
I aggree, I use all of my finger on my left hand but I only use one finger on my right hand. Maybe sometimes I use 2 different finger on my right hand to click enter and backspace but it is really rare thing I do. Maybe %5 percent. I can write -/+225 words in 3 minutes.
1:36 That page shows some folk use the index finger of the right hand a lot, that would become very tired soon, that particular finger. I learned to touch type for fun when I was 13 in 1972 did not have much use for it 'til the Internet was invented and now I am using those very same skills I learned way back them. I can type as fast as someone speaks, when they are thinking what to write ! ! One thing at that school was a recording which said "a now" h now, b now, d now, etc. I remember that but not much else of that typing school at The Typing Center of New South Wales. - Have A Nice Day..
9 dimentional : maybe he (c4103) do thing differently. maybe he drive his car at the back seat. modified back seat steering. typical human being. hahaha.
I seek and destroy with my two pointer fingers. I know some people think that that is slow, and inefficient, but I am pretty deadly with it, and can crank out sentences quick.
All this is only necessary because of QWERTY and the staggered layout. I'm typing with a split ortholinear keyboard and a layout called Neo2 for over four years now and my fingers don't need to move like this at all. Currently I'm learning a new layout that is even more efficient for ortholinear keyboards with thumb shift. I need some time to get back to 60 wpm and more
I average in the 90-120 range with 2 fingers , and now that im used to it on a laptop, it feels weird to get a keyboard since it's on like different levels and the the way the keycaps are on the laptops versus keyboard ones but I know there is those flat keycaps I'm just trying to the find the right keyboard.
i use my left hand a little bit tilt on keyboard and it cover more than half keys of keyboard but i found alot of videos on youtube that tell's us about the right position when i started to type with right position its sucks me up and my typing speed become very slow so i compare both positions speed and now i type as i earlier type on keyboard i use my left hand point finger mostly
I don't know why but before I was taking typing in elementary I already learned to type the way I do so I never corrected. I don't use my left index finger at all, it just hangs in the air above all the keys. It looks weird but I still type super fast despite it
The bright side is if you lose it in an an accident, the worst thing is it’d make it weird to wear gloves! You can likely improve speed if you incorporate it into your typing tools repertoire.
I have a friend who uses only his index and middle finger on each hand to type (even for space he doesn't use his thumb) and he easily manages >100 wpm and can hit 120 pretty often. I have another friend who does the exact same thing and averages 90-100. I only use my left hand for pressing space and shift which is weird because I'm right handed.
I use my left hand's index a middle fingers and my right hand's middle finger to type stuff, and the ring finger on the right hand to delete, I haven't practiced it, but I can do around 90wpm at the moment.
So I don't understand all those comments questioning what the researcher about the factor of number of fingers used in typing. He obviously meant that it is not the only factor that determines the outcome. There are several other factors involved in that.
I compared a couple of people who climbed Everest who had only one leg, with people who climbed Everest with two legs. They both reached the top. So my conclusions is: if you want to climb a mountain you can use one leg instead of two, this doesn't matter.
I type with 2 or maybe 3 fingers per hand (its so natural I dont notice exactly how many I use) I also look at the keyboard a little but usually for very split seconds. I think Im a fairly fast typer
I was never taught how to type by anyone just sort of got really used to it over time and I get around 100-130 wpm. One weird thing I do is not use my thumb for space bar. I'm so used to not using my thumb that I actually type slower trying to get my brain to use it.
What is the minimum speed in WPM before being considered a "FAST" typist, being that fast or slow is relative and subjective? I type at 80wpm when I am actually setting out to type something of volume. I consider myself to be fast, but on the BOTTOM scale of fast. I hardly ever type for a sustained period of time so while I'm not exactly rusty, I am not practiced or trained either. Most of my speed comes from gaming and typing in gaming. I chose to be happy with 80WPM, it is reading speed and feels comfortable. I also make no mistakes at this speed. I consider anything under 40WPM to be SLOW, 50-60WPM to be AVERAGE, 70 - 90WPM to be FAST and 100+ to be very fast. I think only a tiny percentage of "fast" typists can get to 120WPM or higher and remain accurate above 95%. In fact I personally know ZERO people who can do that, and I would imagine the percentage is somewhere around 0.5% of "fast" typists.
50WPM isn't exactly fast though! I hardly type anymore and I don't try to go fast, and I sit at 70WPM cruising speed. Most kids these days who grew up around computers and type their homework etc are easily at 50WPM, some kids even TEXT TYPE on their phones at this speed! If I wanted to be a fast typist or if I typed every day for prolonged periods (for work etc) I'd be 20-30WPM higher than I am now, easily. Also 200WPM isn't going to happen. The international typing championship finals 2017 saw the fastest typists in the world hitting no higher than 170WPM. 200WPM is the speed of the wartime secretaries who typed 12 hours a day, 7 days a week, for years.
Sure you can type a password at 200WPM! But that kinda defeats the entire idea about accurately measuring someones ability to type, doesn't it? XD Try typing dictation or a typing test (for the FIRST time) at 200WPM! Hence why the current world champions, the fastest in the world, rarely break 170WPM. Because it is a fair test, a test in which I would probably hit my regular 70-80WPM, unless I had trained a while and used my own keyboard, in which case I will top out around 100WPM with a handful of mistakes. You are talking about 200WPM? Behave, please. And yes, secretaries COULD and DID write pure dictation at 200WPM back in the day, that is the same muscle memory as anyone touch typing at any speed, they did it faster because they were trained to and .. like chopping onions for a chef .. they had to think LESS about what they were doing and could read ahead. Thats a skill, that is what fast typing is all about. I thought that would have been obvious! XD Oh and finally .... "The reason people don't type that fast anymore isn't because we don't type enough, it's because we have more complicated things to type. Grammar in those days was quite simple and so where things they had to say to each other. These days we rarely repeat our selves. If we needed to do that, we'd just copy paste." Did you REALLY just write that? Seriously? :D You're such a card.
"The reason people don't type that fast anymore isn't because we don't type enough, it's because we have more complicated things to type. Grammar in those days was quite simple and so where things they had to say to each other. These days we rarely repeat our selves. If we needed to do that, we'd just copy paste." I cannot take you seriously, especially after that last nonsense. Have a good day, Mr 25 - 75 WPM! :D lol
He's 100 percent right about familiarity with the vocab, sentence structure and all. I myself notice a sharp increase in my typing speed once I began writing often just because I was consistently able to predict sentences and form my own even faster. If I were to type in French my speed would be only a fraction of what it is in english.
Yes you are right you know even I did take any typing course and I was chatting with my friends on my keyboard. then after some months, I realised that my typing speed is very high. then I checked it. you know it was 45 words per minute. you might think it is not that first but it is enough for me.
I want to learn to Touch Type but I found it very uncomfortable & very annoying since when trying to reach certain keys with certain fingers another finger will always end up hitting a key. I find it also very difficult trying to use the pinky for keys since you have to come out of alignment to reach the keys & then realign yourself. Any advice?
when i have spare time, i will open up "keyBR" and learn some touch typing. but when i doing my usual stuff like surfing the net, facebooking some games, youtubing, bla bla.. i use my old self-taugh style of typing because it's damn fast. i hope to learn new thing (touch typing) but only when i feel like i have good mood in doing so, which i do not have most of the time. the last time i open keyBR to learn touch typing is 4-5 months ago. hahaha.
I don't know if this happen to anyone else but when I type in self taught way I use like all of my left hand and 3 finger for the right hand and It's fine not the fastest but it's a solid 80wpm But I'm currently learning touch typing and I notice I misstype very often and my speed actually become slower like 50wpm should I even continue?
I only use two or three fingers and can text very fast. I got really troubled when I discovered that because I've never thought about it. Then I started looking on the internet a way to use all ten fingers because I've come to think that it could be unhealthy to use only two or three fingers in the average. But now I'm kinda relieved that is not only me who types like that. Actually i'm so used on typing with two-three fingers that my left arm aches when I use all 5 fingers for that arm. Any thoughts on that anyone?
@Peter Hofmann Don't worry man i have the same problem even after i complete the course in typing club (1 week like 3 hour a day from 2 of january to this day), i think it's natural that we make that type of mistake?, idk but in some cases i press the C with the index finger rather the middle finger ( for example the word "secretary") I can only guess that practice is the key! type all type of words and you will get the rhythm of it!
It's also a laughably small sample size. In the more info link in the description you can find their research publication. In that they said that they only studied 30 people. ~100 people is a small sample size. At 30 people, it's scope is too narrow to draw meaningful conclusions. They might have gotten 'self-taught' typists who were faster than average and touch typists who were slower than average.
@@Jeremy_Fisher Oh. . . I thought the original commenter here was stupid because I thought the video was to point out slow and improper techniques, but then I read it was only 30 people. That's far too few.
0:26 Define "very fast" 1:16 They learned and how much did they worked on it? Your research completely ignores the fact that touch typing doesn't increase the speed, it increases the capacity for speed and reduces the limit. It's not supposed to magically increase speed, it's supposed to remove the "normal typing" bottleneck(which might be different for every person) 1:22 You mean bad habits. 1:52 Really? People have different speeds? There are so many things wrong with this study it hurts my brain. This is what research has become; Finding ways of making people feel better about themselves.
My typing style is fucking chaotic. I consider my keyboard to have three zones; the left, the right, and the center. The left zone is Q, W, A, S, Z, and X. The right zone is O, P, K, L, M, the comma, and period keys. Everything else is a free-for-all.
I'm a self taught typist and I average 110-120 but my highest is 220 (believe it or not). i think the best way is to start off with touch typing and then adapt from there: touch typing is beneficial but it's pretty slow. Developing your method from there on makes sure you can press the most keys with the closest finger with high accuracy. I've also seen that people with 200+ WPM DONT keep their fingers on the home row. They hover their fingers around the keys they they will most press. I'm not professional but that's what I've discovered so far.
congrats what website do you use to measure your typing speed? that is a really large gap of averaging 110-120 and a high of 220, my average is like 80 with a high of around 90
@@melioris2322 I use typeracer.com to measure my averages. And my highest of 220 is not something I get everyday but the highest I've gotten so far in my life (on typing.com). I mentioned this because it proves that you don't need to use the home row method to type really fast. edit: I got 220 wpm on a 30 word sentence so it was pretty easy to type it quickly
i type about 80-90 wpm with only 2 fingers per hand lolololol... i am tying to get my wpm to about 130 by the end of the year so i am learning asdf jkl; and tbh, it has actually worked very well!
I'm a two-finger typist, but I can hit 136wpm with zero errors. I rise above 150 if I allow for errors. When I try to type that fast, though, I notice I enter a flow state with a more "lapsed touch typist" approach. Neat!
You didn't have any fast typists in your representations. I'm ~100 and I know I have a ton of improvement left to go in my technique. There's absolutely no way someone who uses ~2-4 fingers could type as fast as me. Is this considered a truly scientific study because of the format of the experiment?
I use all 4 fingers on my left hand but only my middle finger on my right to type, which is probably because I'm self taught. But I've been typing for a long time and I am a G A M E R so I actually type 112 wpm with this horrible technique and I wish I could fix it to type even faster but I feel like I have specific muscle memory for every different word and I would have to slow down a ton to retrain
I see them here saying that typing method doesn't make a significant difference in speed, but then they showed extremely slow typists (46 WPM and 75 WPM) to prove their point. Here's the study that I suggest - get a group consisting only of competent typists (100 WPM or higher), and test their typing abilities. See how many of them are two-finger typists, and how many of them are touch-typists.
I type an average of 80wpm with 6 fingers, 5 being extremely dominant. I seriously doubt I could type any faster tbh, but I do reach the top 20-10 percent just using self taught methods.
for programmer, typing is a very tough progress. Because you have to type some characters very frequently, for example, [ ] { } " - _ = + \ backspace enter. all these key, you must do it with your right little finger. What's more, your left little finger is also tough, whatever code editor you are using, the ctrl key is also a very frequent key you have to press. because it's too slow to press ( you must move your hand to left bottom and then move back). So some programmer exchange the capslock key with ctrl key. The last straw is that your left thumb have to press space key and alt/cmd key to improve efficiency. If you are using vim editor, then you have to press esc key frequently, so some people redefine the capslock key to esc key.
Im a 95 wpm typist (5th grade) I use both of my thumbs and all of the others fingers I use my left thumb for the shift and ctrl because i feeel pretty comfortable xD maybe some of u should try that
I have been typing all my life and I found many times during this time, I have never found any typist using 2 fingers to go above 50wpm.. you need 10 fingers to cross the 100 barrier and the rhythm which their research never mentioned.
You defiantly can't reach higher speeds than 75 with just using 2 fingers. That was my technique, but after I laent how to touch type, my speeds went up by 40+ WPM (106, lol not the best) on a regular rubber dome keyboard.
8 Benefits of Touch Typing Skills It is safe to assume that many of the people looking for help on sites like this are two fingers or hunt and peck typists. While many people exist perfectly well this way, touch typing offers avenues that cannot be attained by hunt and peck typing. Here, we’ll list for you some of the many benefits of touch typing. Advantages of Touch Typing Skills 1. Speed. This is going to be the first and most obvious benefit of learning to touch type. A touch typist can easily reach typing speeds above 75-80 words per minute, while a hunt and peck typist would be hard pressed to reach 30 words per minute. This also increased by the fact that an accomplished touch typist doesn’t have to look at the keyboard. It is difficult to type something while reading it if you have to look down at the keyboard every other stroke to find your next key. 2. Accuracy. One of the most important things to learn no matter how hard you type is to type accurately. Ask anyone who’s ever played a multi player online game, and they’ll tell you how it important it is to be able to type quickly and accurately. No one is going to be able to ride to your rescue if your typing skills are so atrocious that no one can understand what you’re saying. 3. Time. If you increase your typing speed from, say 30 words per minute to 60, you have effectively halved the time it would take you to do the same amount of work. An average two finger typist, typing at for example of 15 words per minute, will type a 250 word section in about 17 minutes. A touch typist, on the other hand, typing at an average 60 words per minute, can type the same section in around 4 minutes. 4. Fatigue. Typing is both mentally and physically exhausting to do for long periods of time. Learning to touch type properly reduces both mental and physical fatigue. Mentally, it keeps you from having to focus on two things at once. All you have to worry about is your output, not finding the individual keys. Physically, it keeps you from constantly having to bend your head over the keyboard to find your next couple of keystrokes. 5. Health. Overall, touch typing is better for your health. You’re not hunched over looking at the keys, and using all of your fingers actually reduces the risk for repetitive stress injuries, or RSI. Many people who work on keyboards or with computers all day are at risk for these repetitive stress injuries. 6. Job Prospects. Typing is not an optional skill anymore. Many employers require computer skills and a certain typing speed to even be considered for some positions. Needless to say, they aren’t looking for 20-30 word per minute hunt and peck typists. Learning to touch type, and to do so accurately, can be one of the most invaluable skills of your career. Want to find out your wpm typing speed, visit awww.ratatype.com/typing-test/. 7. Focus. When you’re typing with two fingers, your focus is split between finding the keys on the keyboard and the work you are doing on the computer. Learning to touch type allows you to focus on one thing instead of two. This tends to increase productivity and make it easier to pay attention to the details of your project rather than having to focus on your keys. 8. Editing. If you spend your time staring at your keyboard, you are not going to notice spelling or grammar mistakes until well after you have made them. Touch typing give you the option of editing as you go. You’ll be able to see errors as they appear and backspace to fix them. This is also good for grammar mistakes, as what you see in your head may not sound as good on paper. Touch typing may seem like it’s not worth the time, especially if you’re already confident in your hunt and peck skills. It is, however, one of the most valuable skills you can learn. It may take a little more time than you would like, especially if you have a life time of bad habits to relearn, but in the end, a small investment of time will pay off in more ways than you can imagine. This is just a basic list of the benefits of touch typing. There are many more out there to discover for anyone who wishes to learn.
Thank you for taking the time to articulate this lovely response. It's a pity that an intelligent discussion in the comments section usually goes unnoticed in favour of overly short echo-chamber responses. The question that these researchers posed was too poorly constructed in my opinion. Also, the observed candidates should have been a greater number, grouped by experience, skill, etc.
Quite nonsensical study. The only touch typist seen in the video has this dreadful technique of fixing their hands as far as possible in a certain position while twisting the fingers uncomfortably to reach the keys (instead of moving the hands freely). This is a very slow technique and certainly does not reveal the true potential of touch typing. I think it is easy to phrase two hypotheses which are most probably true and not refuted (nor even investigated) by this study: 1. The fastest absolute typing speeds are reached only in touch typing technique. 2. Most, perhaps all, typers will reach higher speeds after they switched permanently to touch typing. Only if these two hypotheses were refuted the authors could claim legitimately to have proven that the number of fingers used does not matter.
+Wilfried Lingenberg absolutely correct! Comforting: you least can see the wasted energy von "non touch typers". Not telling this to fool them. Its only fact. You can see it immediately in this few clips...
+Wilfried Lingenberg Totally agree. Being married to a very good touch typist, and barely a half-decent hunt and pecker myself, I can attest to there being no contest whatsoever.
+MadSupra354 I don't ever touch the space bar with my right thumb. I keep it anchored at the bottom edge of the keyboard when I'm typing. You're not weird. If you search around on here for "weird" typing videos, you won't ever feel bad about the way you type every again. Lol.
Well, touch typing is not difficult to learn in the first place, besides more than speed touch typing has other benefits such as not looking at the keyboard while typing which in turn reduces the strain on your neck, also using all 9 fingers or 10 in some cases distributes the load and reduces stress on your each individual fingers enabling us to type longer with a consistent speed and accuracy.
So the fastest participants were in the 70-80 words per minute range? I type 120 words per minute. I don't think you need to type in the traditional touch typist way to reach my speed (and I know there's a lot of people who type faster than I do) but I don't see how you can do it with only two fingers. I think what this proves is that within the normal typing range which is 40-80 wpn then it doesn't matter if you want to be a good typist then this study has not tested it with their low sample size of non-typists. I'm a software developer, the fastest typist in this study would have been the slowest typists in my office. Out of the coders that is, they would have been on par with the secretaries, marketers, office managers etc.
Necro'ing here, but I agree. I have a very non-standard way of typing. I've done some introspection into my own techniques. I've found that I have "cached and optimized" muscle movements for common combinations of letters. Sometimes I will halt when trying to type a new or rare word. I have a hunch that they key to quick typing is to alternate between hands as much as possible, and to avoid using the same finger twice in a row. Eg, when typing 'retry', it is more comfortable as well as faster to hit the first 'r' with index and second 'r' with middle finger.
I also depends on the task that you're trying to solve while typing. I'm a touch typist, and I feel like the not-having-to-look-aspect is much more valuable than the speed in which I type for example while programming. Or if you're taking notes in a lecture you don't want to be looking down on your keyboard. I also notice that typing takes mental resources, so if you're just re-typing a given text, then you get much higher speeds than when you have to come up with the content of what you're typing at the same time.
That is true and I feel very understated! I feel like jumbled letter are harder for me to type than actual words and sentences that make sense.
This is exactly one of the two most important reasons why I started to learn touch typing: to keep my attention on the screen and to do less mistakes, or when I do them, to correct them more easily without looking at the keyboard. I'm still not very fast, but I'm glad I started to learn this skill. There is another aspect of the learning itself, I believe - activation of this part of the brain which controls mapping of typing to movements and type of imagination connected with that. In this respect, it's a mental excercise.
I don't look at the keyboard whilst I type, even though I only use two fingers for the actual letters. I did the hunt and peck method for so many years I memorized QWERTY and started to use other fingers for the buttons such as backspace, tab and enter.
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so the amount of fingers you use doesn't matter? Show me 140wpm with 2 fingers lol
+Maxusy even 90..
I got 103 WPM on typeracer with 2 fingers 98.5% accuracy. though i am God.
Maxusy I can type12,347 wpm with my nose 🐰🐶🐶🐶
Lol! Coming to your own stupid conclusion, classic :D
Maxusy I have a 130 on my profile, and besides for space/shift/backspace I only use my two index fingers :)
Find a sample of people who actually use their keyboard and can actually reach fast speeds (>100 WPM). THEN draw conclusions like "the number of fingers used does not affect typing speed". I'm confident that the majority of this sample will use most, if not all of their fingers. It's fine to assess average typists, but you can't draw any meaningful conclusion on optimal typing technique from them.
What this study did is basically like drawing a conclusion like "the shoes a runner wears does not affect their running speed" by analyzing random pedestrians. A person running with snow boots CAN run as fast as someone wearing running shoes, but give that same person a pair of running shoes and the difference will be significant. Nobody in the Olympics is going to run with boots on.
Yeah, if only I had learned some better form when I was younger, now Im hard stuck 100wpm plateau with my unorthodox “right hand middle finger strictly handles everything on the right including spacebar” and switching up is gonna be hard
@@coolmemesbudd just make the change, i was typing with something similar a year ago at 100wpm and when i started touch typing, i got like 20wpm at first but now i'm at ~120wpm.
thats a really good analogy, sums up this video pretty well
although a bit less common, I have seen videos of people typing 150+wpm using only one finger with their right hand
True. My record is like 170 wpm (on 10ff site) and I don't use pinkys at all. I noticed that people who type >200 wpm use pinkys as well. I can feel that my method is not optimal because sometimes, in certain words, I slow so much, because I need to press few buttons with 1 finger. I'd like to see comparison between for example 150 WPM typists who use both 10 and 8 fingers, and also 200 wpm typers.
"The number of your fingers doesn't affect your typing speed"
okay, let's see how fast can people type with their toes
Is it weird that this is what i found: Typing with Your Toes
Lift your second toe, and only your second toe; place it back down, Lift your third toe, solo, place it back down. Lift each of your toes independently of the others. Practice this every day and in 30 years, you will be able to type with your toes!
Typing with 0 fingers seems like it _could_ affect my speed.
@@anilnkamalakshan ohh thats amazing!! I'll teach it to my grandchildren lmao
Instead of my fingers, I'll use my toes. I'll still type way faster than you.
@Kirill Manenkov That's really all that you need
I'm sure their theories fall off once you get to above average typing speeds.
+Merry According to their study, there were "30 everyday typists, selected to span a wide range of typing performance (from 34 to 79 wpm)". I suspect that anything above 80 would start to require that you touch type (even if you don't use traditional zones for fingers). Before I learned to touch type, I could only get up to 55/60 wpm on 10fastfingers, and I had to keep looking up and down so I was limited. But now I can fairly easily get >100, and I cannot imagine being able to do that while having to look at my fingers all the time.
+Dominic Muller I've found that I actually never use my pinkies for typing at all, and I do a lot of typing and coding fairly often. Never really noticed it though, but I'd say based on the video I'm somewhere between an index finger and middle finger typer. Depending on the test I've found I range from 80-110 WPM, usually the only slipups I end up having are in words that I don't use as often or words that my fingers 'autocorrect' into on accident. My right hand always manages pressing shift or enter, with my left hand taking over for the duration that I'm holding shift. The weird thing is though that I subconsciously look at where my fingers are typing in my peripheral vision, I have to revert to touch typing in the dark or in virtual reality.
+Dominic Muller I don't use my pinky for anything besides really shift and my typing speed is at around 115 or so
they do have a point in that you don't need to use all 10 fingers to type fast.
Merry I average around 115 and peak at 130 using almost solely my index fingers, so I doubt it's necessary to learn to touch-type.
+Pastel Prince
Would you consider making a video of that? I'm really curious what that looks like.
you know its serious business when you see a room with a sign that says “do not disturb, science in progress”
Touch typing helps you type without looking at the keyboard
If you have any other way you can type without looking at the keyboard, go for it.
But touch typing would be the easiest.
You certainly cannot type with one or two fingers without looking at the keyboard with 100% accuracy.
When you use only one or two fingers you have to move your fingers all the way around the keyboard while using 10 fingers, the movement of fingers is pretty much reduced, and I think that really increases the speed.
I was curious about the "looking down" part, as someone who taught myself (school also tried teaching me, but i definitely dont touch the way they tried teaching me) I dont have to look down at my keyboard ever unless my keys get stuck or something, which nigh ever happens.
I do however have to be able to see the keyboard in my peripheral vision, if im typing with no light i do end up with worse accuracy (although the light from my monitor is usually enough)
If you are trying to go fast, you can't type %100 accuracy with touch-typing either.
You won't catch up to my typing speed when I'm flaming with another gamer during a match.
when i type i use both of my Index Fingers to type even for spacebar, backspace, shift, etc
Therefore, Aalto University teaches us to always look at the keyboard everytime we type...:) :) :) what a great researcher from Aalto University
You can type with less fingers and still not look down.
It's called being a hybrid
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typing#:~:text=typing%20class%2C%201933-,Hybrid,others%20use%203%E2%80%936%20fingers.
This might hold true for slow typist but I'd like to see some data on fast typist e.g based on speeds of 100+ WPM, what percentage of them are touch typist?
I guess once you reach a certain speed, touch typist dominate over non-touch typist
I think it's stupid to not use all fingers while typing. Obviously it's going to be better than using two fingers lol
I actually learned today what touch typing is. I'm a touch typer but only with the left hand, what i mean by that is that i use all fingers of my left hand, and only 2 from my right end (one being for the enter and backward key only). I still have the entire keyboard memorized and never have to look down to it. About typing speed, i test it from times to times, my average speed for typing without efforts is 80 to 95 depending on the words (my main language also has a lot of special characters) and my peak is between 100 and 110. So yeah, complete touch typing must be optimal but i guess to each his own, i've never been able to type with more than 2 fingers from my right hand.
@@thesunryze4658 Your ability to touch type is great! Using more than 2 fingers will likely increase your speed. Touch typing and typing with all fingers doesn't come naturally. It is a skill that you develop over time through practice.
@@TouchedAlot Honestly using all 10 fingers really isn't as important as you think, many of the best typists in the world at like 170wpm+ don't use the perfect way of laying all their fingers on the home row and using all 10 how it's 'best' to do it. Like I'm not the best typist myself I only type like 90-100wpm but I use 3 fingers on my left hand and 2 on my right, and the only thing holding me back is a lack of practice. I don't see why I couldn't get to around 150wpm typing like this if I put the time in but where you have to get to literally 3 words a second to make having more fingers on the keyboard count, I don't think it's a point that needs to be emphasised at all
@@jademwah You don't need to use 10 fingers to type 170wpm+ but the more fingers you use, the easier it is as each finger does less movement.
It may be fastest for people with broken fingers to use less than 10, but learning to using all 10 fingers results in the fastest typing speed for people with 10 working fingers.
I read the paper and in my opinion the conclusion that you can type fast with a smaller amount of fingers is false. When you compare the images shown in Figure 7 and 8, and a table of the most common used characters (which is the base of the DVORAK Layout), you can see that subjects tend to adapt the ten-finger-typing system for their left hands, and mostly just one finger for the right hand. The left hand covers nearly all of the most common used characters. I think this is a prove that the TFT-System is more efficient, and ignoring it for the right hand just does not have any impact on the typing performance due to the insignificancy of the characters covered by it. So people who are self-thought at ten-finger-typing probably subconsciously already knew that and didn't make the effort to learn it, resulting in being as much as efficient as people who learned TFT by the book
This is so cool for a typical typer like me. My daughter is struggling to learn to type and I only then reallized, that I not use the 10 fingers that I learned and practiced for hours upon hours throughout school. I was so slow with that method, and I am so much faster with 6 fingers that I use now.
This is very interesting. Having taken a typing class in high school and having a mother who taught typing, ten key, shorthand, and other office skills to adults, it's only natural that I'm a touch typist. It would be interesting to see what the results would be with these various methods if used on a typewriter as opposed to a keyboard.
It would be interesting to see how typing style affects repetitive stress injury. I find that I have less problems now that I touch type.
+Jesper Josefsson This is, because you´ve LEARNED! Sometimes it looks like more and more projects an studys go to: "Don´t need to learn because learning is generally too exhausting and bad."
Sometimes it tastes as: Go the easiest way.
Ideologic lobbying by "laissez faires"?
Touch typing also helps your undeveloped fingers, and the feeling of total control over all your 10 fingers is amazing
Thanks
0:19 totally disagree. You physically have to reach further for keys using eg 2 fingers (as so many do today). The full hand on the other hand has fingers directly above the full keyboard. Also, maybe the 2-index-finger typists are used to trying to be faster because it's not economical in the first place, so that affects statistics.
And did you let touch typers adjust to the keyboard? If I personally type on a new keyboard it takes me like a day or two before I get to my peak performance. I'd say this is not as big of a problem for non-touch typers as they have a visual aid by watching their fingers...
i think your typing speed depends on how used u are to it like there are some people who used their index and middle fingers to type only and they can type fast because they are so used to it, it is their habit. everyone has their own strategy of typing, it depends on which fingers you prefer to use, which fingers are stronger. the longer u practice typing, the faster you would become. like people who like playing games from a young age, they click the keyboard so many times until it becomes so natural and intuitive
I aggree, I use all of my finger on my left hand but I only use one finger on my right hand. Maybe sometimes I use 2 different finger on my right hand to click enter and backspace but it is really rare thing I do. Maybe %5 percent. I can write -/+225 words in 3 minutes.
1:36 That page shows some folk use the index finger of the right hand a lot, that would become very tired soon, that particular finger. I learned to touch type for fun when I was 13 in 1972 did not have much use for it 'til the Internet was invented and now I am using those very same skills I learned way back them. I can type as fast as someone speaks, when they are thinking what to write ! !
One thing at that school was a recording which said "a now" h now, b now, d now, etc.
I remember that but not much else of that typing school at The Typing Center of New South Wales. - Have A Nice Day..
wew not even a mech keyboard used for this experiment 3/10
+misterhamez Rubber dome keyboards and only people who type with qwerty.
C4103 rt
hahahaaha
9 dimentional : maybe he (c4103) do thing differently. maybe he drive his car at the back seat. modified back seat steering. typical human being. hahaha.
I hate mechanical keyboard, they have so much travel and are generally huge
I seek and destroy with my two pointer fingers. I know some people think that that is slow, and inefficient, but I am pretty deadly with it, and can crank out sentences quick.
All this is only necessary because of QWERTY and the staggered layout. I'm typing with a split ortholinear keyboard and a layout called Neo2 for over four years now and my fingers don't need to move like this at all. Currently I'm learning a new layout that is even more efficient for ortholinear keyboards with thumb shift. I need some time to get back to 60 wpm and more
I average in the 90-120 range with 2 fingers , and now that im used to it on a laptop, it feels weird to get a keyboard since it's on like different levels and the the way the keycaps are on the laptops versus keyboard ones but I know there is those flat keycaps I'm just trying to the find the right keyboard.
i use my left hand a little bit tilt on keyboard and it cover more than half keys of keyboard but i found alot of videos on youtube that tell's us about the right position when i started to type with right position its sucks me up and my typing speed become very slow so i compare both positions speed and now i type as i earlier type on keyboard i use my left hand point finger mostly
Fascinating research. I hope it turns into some valuable teaching methods.
So 75wpm is the fastest typist you tested? Meh.
Thats my best in one hand! Ha!
75 WPM is slow...
GamingWithIceNova how about 170:D
for you maybe. the average typist types at like 35-40
My best is 150 wpm
I don't know why but before I was taking typing in elementary I already learned to type the way I do so I never corrected. I don't use my left index finger at all, it just hangs in the air above all the keys. It looks weird but I still type super fast despite it
The bright side is if you lose it in an an accident, the worst thing is it’d make it weird to wear gloves!
You can likely improve speed if you incorporate it into your typing tools repertoire.
I have a friend who uses only his index and middle finger on each hand to type (even for space he doesn't use his thumb) and he easily manages >100 wpm and can hit 120 pretty often. I have another friend who does the exact same thing and averages 90-100. I only use my left hand for pressing space and shift which is weird because I'm right handed.
You don't use the right part of the keyboard that often so I think it's easier to reach the shift key faster with your left hand
I do the same.... I hope it’s not weird 😔
I use my left hand's index a middle fingers and my right hand's middle finger to type stuff, and the ring finger on the right hand to delete, I haven't practiced it, but I can do around 90wpm at the moment.
So I don't understand all those comments questioning what the researcher about the factor of number of fingers used in typing. He obviously meant that it is not the only factor that determines the outcome. There are several other factors involved in that.
I compared a couple of people who climbed Everest who had only one leg, with people who climbed Everest with two legs. They both reached the top. So my conclusions is: if you want to climb a mountain you can use one leg instead of two, this doesn't matter.
nailed it
I type with 2 or maybe 3 fingers per hand (its so natural I dont notice exactly how many I use) I also look at the keyboard a little but usually for very split seconds. I think Im a fairly fast typer
I use my two fingers to type and I use my thumb for the space bar and I use my right index finger to backspace.
I love how my school mates and teachers are like "Did you take a course?"
did you?
I was never taught how to type by anyone just sort of got really used to it over time and I get around 100-130 wpm. One weird thing I do is not use my thumb for space bar. I'm so used to not using my thumb that I actually type slower trying to get my brain to use it.
What is the minimum speed in WPM before being considered a "FAST" typist, being that fast or slow is relative and subjective?
I type at 80wpm when I am actually setting out to type something of volume. I consider myself to be fast, but on the BOTTOM scale of fast. I hardly ever type for a sustained period of time so while I'm not exactly rusty, I am not practiced or trained either. Most of my speed comes from gaming and typing in gaming. I chose to be happy with 80WPM, it is reading speed and feels comfortable. I also make no mistakes at this speed.
I consider anything under 40WPM to be SLOW, 50-60WPM to be AVERAGE, 70 - 90WPM to be FAST and 100+ to be very fast. I think only a tiny percentage of "fast" typists can get to 120WPM or higher and remain accurate above 95%. In fact I personally know ZERO people who can do that, and I would imagine the percentage is somewhere around 0.5% of "fast" typists.
50WPM isn't exactly fast though! I hardly type anymore and I don't try to go fast, and I sit at 70WPM cruising speed. Most kids these days who grew up around computers and type their homework etc are easily at 50WPM, some kids even TEXT TYPE on their phones at this speed!
If I wanted to be a fast typist or if I typed every day for prolonged periods (for work etc) I'd be 20-30WPM higher than I am now, easily.
Also 200WPM isn't going to happen. The international typing championship finals 2017 saw the fastest typists in the world hitting no higher than 170WPM. 200WPM is the speed of the wartime secretaries who typed 12 hours a day, 7 days a week, for years.
Sure you can type a password at 200WPM! But that kinda defeats the entire idea about accurately measuring someones ability to type, doesn't it? XD
Try typing dictation or a typing test (for the FIRST time) at 200WPM!
Hence why the current world champions, the fastest in the world, rarely break 170WPM. Because it is a fair test, a test in which I would probably hit my regular 70-80WPM, unless I had trained a while and used my own keyboard, in which case I will top out around 100WPM with a handful of mistakes.
You are talking about 200WPM? Behave, please.
And yes, secretaries COULD and DID write pure dictation at 200WPM back in the day, that is the same muscle memory as anyone touch typing at any speed, they did it faster because they were trained to and .. like chopping onions for a chef .. they had to think LESS about what they were doing and could read ahead. Thats a skill, that is what fast typing is all about.
I thought that would have been obvious! XD
Oh and finally ....
"The reason people don't type that fast anymore isn't because we don't type enough, it's because we have more complicated things to type. Grammar in those days was quite simple and so where things they had to say to each other. These days we rarely repeat our selves. If we needed to do that, we'd just copy paste."
Did you REALLY just write that? Seriously? :D You're such a card.
"The reason people don't type that fast anymore isn't because we don't type enough, it's because we have more complicated things to type. Grammar in those days was quite simple and so where things they had to say to each other. These days we rarely repeat our selves. If we needed to do that, we'd just copy paste."
I cannot take you seriously, especially after that last nonsense.
Have a good day, Mr 25 - 75 WPM! :D
lol
He's 100 percent right about familiarity with the vocab, sentence structure and all. I myself notice a sharp increase in my typing speed once I began writing often just because I was consistently able to predict sentences and form my own even faster. If I were to type in French my speed would be only a fraction of what it is in english.
If you can average 100 wpm on typeracer then you’re pretty fast, if you can average 160 wpm there then you’re one of the top typists
Yes you are right you know even I did take any typing course and I was chatting with my friends on my keyboard. then after some months, I realised that my typing speed is very high. then I checked it. you know it was 45 words per minute. you might think it is not that first but it is enough for me.
I want to learn to Touch Type but I found it very uncomfortable & very annoying since when trying to reach certain keys with certain fingers another finger will always end up hitting a key. I find it also very difficult trying to use the pinky for keys since you have to come out of alignment to reach the keys & then realign yourself. Any advice?
JLCodes Same situation man. This is getting frustrating, I'm considering giving up.
when i have spare time, i will open up "keyBR" and learn some touch typing. but when i doing my usual stuff like surfing the net, facebooking some games, youtubing, bla bla.. i use my old self-taugh style of typing because it's damn fast. i hope to learn new thing (touch typing) but only when i feel like i have good mood in doing so, which i do not have most of the time. the last time i open keyBR to learn touch typing is 4-5 months ago. hahaha.
I don't know if this happen to anyone else but when I type in self taught way I use like all of my left hand and 3 finger for the right hand and It's fine not the fastest but it's a solid 80wpm
But I'm currently learning touch typing and I notice I misstype very often and my speed actually become slower like 50wpm should I even continue?
Im a index typisr and im trying to use 10 fingers
I only use two or three fingers and can text very fast. I got really troubled when I discovered that because I've never thought about it. Then I started looking on the internet a way to use all ten fingers because I've come to think that it could be unhealthy to use only two or three fingers in the average. But now I'm kinda relieved that is not only me who types like that. Actually i'm so used on typing with two-three fingers that my left arm aches when I use all 5 fingers for that arm. Any thoughts on that anyone?
Afterall nice observations of human typing format. I think this will be helpful to people to know some basics that are ignored. Thanks & Regards
I cant handle this guys asmr voice
Very interesting video! I type with some 5,75-finger system but it's quite fast though.
You can type fast with 2 fingers, but at what cost!
*Fatigue muscles, consistently looking at keyboard and what not*
I used to cover more keys with my right hand, my "homerow" used to be WASD
it doesn't matter how you type as long as you get the job done right and accurately!
Why are so much of the keyboards “blank” as in they don’t know what finger they used for those certain keys??
Slow speeds and lack of proper technique seem to bias the study...
@Peter Hofmann Don't worry man i have the same problem even after i complete the course in typing club (1 week like 3 hour a day from 2 of january to this day), i think it's natural that we make that type of mistake?, idk but in some cases i press the C with the index finger rather the middle finger ( for example the word "secretary")
I can only guess that practice is the key! type all type of words and you will get the rhythm of it!
@Peter Hofmann Qwerty, Azerty and Qwertz are almost the same and are all stupid… try dvorak or something like that.
It's also a laughably small sample size. In the more info link in the description you can find their research publication. In that they said that they only studied 30 people. ~100 people is a small sample size. At 30 people, it's scope is too narrow to draw meaningful conclusions. They might have gotten 'self-taught' typists who were faster than average and touch typists who were slower than average.
@@Jeremy_Fisher Oh. . . I thought the original commenter here was stupid because I thought the video was to point out slow and improper techniques, but then I read it was only 30 people. That's far too few.
I use right index on h key, anyone know what thats called
Did they study dvorak vs qwerty vs maltron vs others… ?
Did they study Stupid vs Ortholinear key placement?
What if several keys are under each thumb?
I was looking for the same answers
0:26 Define "very fast"
1:16 They learned and how much did they worked on it? Your research completely ignores the fact that touch typing doesn't increase the speed, it increases the capacity for speed and reduces the limit. It's not supposed to magically increase speed, it's supposed to remove the "normal typing" bottleneck(which might be different for every person)
1:22 You mean bad habits.
1:52 Really? People have different speeds?
There are so many things wrong with this study it hurts my brain. This is what research has become; Finding ways of making people feel better about themselves.
My typing style is fucking chaotic. I consider my keyboard to have three zones; the left, the right, and the center. The left zone is Q, W, A, S, Z, and X. The right zone is O, P, K, L, M, the comma, and period keys. Everything else is a free-for-all.
I type with 6-8 fingers, I rarely use my pinkies because they are much weaker than the rest of my hand.
for the record my typing speed is 105wpm
How to type shift a properly?
I'm a self taught typist and I average 110-120 but my highest is 220 (believe it or not).
i think the best way is to start off with touch typing and then adapt from there: touch typing is beneficial but it's pretty slow. Developing your method from there on makes sure you can press the most keys with the closest finger with high accuracy.
I've also seen that people with 200+ WPM DONT keep their fingers on the home row. They hover their fingers around the keys they they will most press.
I'm not professional but that's what I've discovered so far.
congrats what website do you use to measure your typing speed? that is a really large gap of averaging 110-120 and a high of 220, my average is like 80 with a high of around 90
@@melioris2322 I use typeracer.com to measure my averages. And my highest of 220 is not something I get everyday but the highest I've gotten so far in my life (on typing.com). I mentioned this because it proves that you don't need to use the home row method to type really fast.
edit: I got 220 wpm on a 30 word sentence so it was pretty easy to type it quickly
@@sobordinates oh okay thanks sobordinates
@@melioris2322 np
Hands are always on the WASD keys, I constantly bounce off the key inches in the air moving FAEST.
What she said correct 100%, I use all 10 fingers and my colleague use only two finger , he type much faster then me , my typing speed is 70wpm
i type about 80-90 wpm with only 2 fingers per hand lolololol... i am tying to get my wpm to about 130 by the end of the year so i am learning asdf jkl; and tbh, it has actually worked very well!
You're not going to type over 120wpm with one or two fingers per hand. So 'pretty fast' is relative here.
I'm a two-finger typist, but I can hit 136wpm with zero errors. I rise above 150 if I allow for errors. When I try to type that fast, though, I notice I enter a flow state with a more "lapsed touch typist" approach. Neat!
I really want to know how to reach the above-average typing speed
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What about a link in the description and not only in the video where it cannot be copy-pasted ;)
+Giovanni Marin they want you to type it
"The number of fingers does not affect your typing speed" ...said with pride and confidence
This video was cool to watch guys!
You didn't have any fast typists in your representations. I'm ~100 and I know I have a ton of improvement left to go in my technique. There's absolutely no way someone who uses ~2-4 fingers could type as fast as me. Is this considered a truly scientific study because of the format of the experiment?
This is Brilliant!!
I dont use my pinkies. And sometimes i use my middle finger for the O key instead of my ring finger
If you want a comfortable typing experience, use more fingers. And I still believe that your potential typing speed goes up when you use more fingers.
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I use all 4 fingers on my left hand but only my middle finger on my right to type, which is probably because I'm self taught. But I've been typing for a long time and I am a G A M E R so I actually type 112 wpm with this horrible technique and I wish I could fix it to type even faster but I feel like I have specific muscle memory for every different word and I would have to slow down a ton to retrain
I see them here saying that typing method doesn't make a significant difference in speed, but then they showed extremely slow typists (46 WPM and 75 WPM) to prove their point.
Here's the study that I suggest - get a group consisting only of competent typists (100 WPM or higher), and test their typing abilities. See how many of them are two-finger typists, and how many of them are touch-typists.
You must touch type if you want to be one of the top typists
Is using my thumb to press shift weird?
1:21 Mine is the same as the one in the top right corner
I type an average of 80wpm with 6 fingers, 5 being extremely dominant. I seriously doubt I could type any faster tbh, but I do reach the top 20-10 percent just using self taught methods.
Sooo is it the amount of fingers you use doesn't matter show me 157wpm in 1 finger or 2
Why did Apple remove the disk drive off of its computers.
my wrist touch the keyboard what should i do
for programmer, typing is a very tough progress. Because you have to type some characters very frequently, for example, [ ] { } " - _ = + \ backspace enter.
all these key, you must do it with your right little finger.
What's more, your left little finger is also tough, whatever code editor you are using, the ctrl key is also a very frequent key you have to press. because it's too slow to press ( you must move your hand to left bottom and then move back). So some programmer exchange the capslock key with ctrl key.
The last straw is that your left thumb have to press space key and alt/cmd key to improve efficiency.
If you are using vim editor, then you have to press esc key frequently, so some people redefine the capslock key to esc key.
Daniel Daniel i can relate to that, 10 finger typing is ineficcient for coding.
excellent explanation! great video
Im a 95 wpm typist (5th grade)
I use both of my thumbs and all of the others fingers
I use my left thumb for the shift and ctrl because i feeel pretty comfortable xD maybe some of u should try that
Cool, I am a 128 WPM typist (at best so far) (5th grade)
I have been typing all my life and I found many times during this time, I have never found any typist using 2 fingers to go above 50wpm.. you need 10 fingers to cross the 100 barrier and the rhythm which their research never mentioned.
Penguin typer can type over 120 with two fingers
Can you type faster than talking? To your keyboard?
for average speed which format is adopting
You defiantly can't reach higher speeds than 75 with just using 2 fingers. That was my technique, but after I laent how to touch type, my speeds went up by 40+ WPM (106, lol not the best) on a regular rubber dome keyboard.
8 Benefits of Touch Typing Skills
It is safe to assume that many of the people looking for help on sites like this are two fingers or hunt and peck typists. While many people exist perfectly well this way, touch typing offers avenues that cannot be attained by hunt and peck typing. Here, we’ll list for you some of the many benefits of touch typing.
Advantages of Touch Typing Skills
1. Speed. This is going to be the first and most obvious benefit of learning to touch type. A touch typist can easily reach typing speeds above 75-80 words per minute, while a hunt and peck typist would be hard pressed to reach 30 words per minute. This also increased by the fact that an accomplished touch typist doesn’t have to look at the keyboard. It is difficult to type something while reading it if you have to look down at the keyboard every other stroke to find your next key.
2. Accuracy. One of the most important things to learn no matter how hard you type is to type accurately. Ask anyone who’s ever played a multi player online game, and they’ll tell you how it important it is to be able to type quickly and accurately. No one is going to be able to ride to your rescue if your typing skills are so atrocious that no one can understand what you’re saying.
3. Time. If you increase your typing speed from, say 30 words per minute to 60, you have effectively halved the time it would take you to do the same amount of work. An average two finger typist, typing at for example of 15 words per minute, will type a 250 word section in about 17 minutes. A touch typist, on the other hand, typing at an average 60 words per minute, can type the same section in around 4 minutes.
4. Fatigue. Typing is both mentally and physically exhausting to do for long periods of time. Learning to touch type properly reduces both mental and physical fatigue. Mentally, it keeps you from having to focus on two things at once. All you have to worry about is your output, not finding the individual keys. Physically, it keeps you from constantly having to bend your head over the keyboard to find your next couple of keystrokes.
5. Health. Overall, touch typing is better for your health. You’re not hunched over looking at the keys, and using all of your fingers actually reduces the risk for repetitive stress injuries, or RSI. Many people who work on keyboards or with computers all day are at risk for these repetitive stress injuries.
6. Job Prospects. Typing is not an optional skill anymore. Many employers require computer skills and a certain typing speed to even be considered for some positions. Needless to say, they aren’t looking for 20-30 word per minute hunt and peck typists. Learning to touch type, and to do so accurately, can be one of the most invaluable skills of your career. Want to find out your wpm typing speed, visit awww.ratatype.com/typing-test/.
7. Focus. When you’re typing with two fingers, your focus is split between finding the keys on the keyboard and the work you are doing on the computer. Learning to touch type allows you to focus on one thing instead of two. This tends to increase productivity and make it easier to pay attention to the details of your project rather than having to focus on your keys.
8. Editing. If you spend your time staring at your keyboard, you are not going to notice spelling or grammar mistakes until well after you have made them. Touch typing give you the option of editing as you go. You’ll be able to see errors as they appear and backspace to fix them. This is also good for grammar mistakes, as what you see in your head may not sound as good on paper.
Touch typing may seem like it’s not worth the time, especially if you’re already confident in your hunt and peck skills. It is, however, one of the most valuable skills you can learn. It may take a little more time than you would like, especially if you have a life time of bad habits to relearn, but in the end, a small investment of time will pay off in more ways than you can imagine. This is just a basic list of the benefits of touch typing. There are many more out there to discover for anyone who wishes to learn.
Thank you for taking the time to articulate this lovely response.
It's a pity that an intelligent discussion in the comments section usually goes unnoticed in favour of overly short echo-chamber responses. The question that these researchers posed was too poorly constructed in my opinion. Also, the observed candidates should have been a greater number, grouped by experience, skill, etc.
me just typing radomly and getting everything wrong
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i be like: oooh yesh JUST WHAT I NEEDED!
Quite nonsensical study. The only touch typist seen in the video has this dreadful technique of fixing their hands as far as possible in a certain position while twisting the fingers uncomfortably to reach the keys (instead of moving the hands freely). This is a very slow technique and certainly does not reveal the true potential of touch typing.
I think it is easy to phrase two hypotheses which are most probably true and not refuted (nor even investigated) by this study:
1. The fastest absolute typing speeds are reached only in touch typing technique.
2. Most, perhaps all, typers will reach higher speeds after they switched permanently to touch typing.
Only if these two hypotheses were refuted the authors could claim legitimately to have proven that the number of fingers used does not matter.
+Wilfried Lingenberg absolutely correct!
Comforting: you least can see the wasted energy von "non touch typers".
Not telling this to fool them. Its only fact. You can see it immediately in this few clips...
+Wilfried Lingenberg Totally agree. Being married to a very good touch typist, and barely a half-decent hunt and pecker myself, I can attest to there being no contest whatsoever.
Wilfried Lingenberg 30 to 40 wpm is my speed
Yes, I think you are absolutely right on this Wilfred. Glad to see some rationality prevailing
Wilfried Lingenberg 9
I press the space bar with my right index finger. Am I an alien?
+MadSupra354 No. I've seen that a lot. It's supposedly wrong, but it works.
+MadSupra354 I don't ever touch the space bar with my right thumb. I keep it anchored at the bottom edge of the keyboard when I'm typing.
You're not weird. If you search around on here for "weird" typing videos, you won't ever feel bad about the way you type every again. Lol.
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Try to use your thumbs for the space bar. It's a lot quicker, for me at least, since I rarely use it for typing actual characters.
MadSupra354 I used to but started using thumb for faster typing
Nice research appreciate the work ❤
Iput my finger on WASF and Shift(Left hand) and jkl; (right hand)
Well, touch typing is not difficult to learn in the first place, besides more than speed touch typing has other benefits such as not looking at the keyboard while typing which in turn reduces the strain on your neck, also using all 9 fingers or 10 in some cases distributes the load and reduces stress on your each individual fingers enabling us to type longer with a consistent speed and accuracy.
i dont know mine fingers always lands on wasd 💁
me trying to position my hands at wasd
does accuracy not matter in this experiment
Touch typing is fastest. Nothing comes closer.
Provided person knows how to touch type.
All I know is that I type o and a using my ring fingers, and I also don’t use my thumbs, typing at 100 wpm.
So the fastest participants were in the 70-80 words per minute range? I type 120 words per minute. I don't think you need to type in the traditional touch typist way to reach my speed (and I know there's a lot of people who type faster than I do) but I don't see how you can do it with only two fingers.
I think what this proves is that within the normal typing range which is 40-80 wpn then it doesn't matter if you want to be a good typist then this study has not tested it with their low sample size of non-typists.
I'm a software developer, the fastest typist in this study would have been the slowest typists in my office. Out of the coders that is, they would have been on par with the secretaries, marketers, office managers etc.
I use 2 fingers and get 100wpm.
Necro'ing here, but I agree.
I have a very non-standard way of typing. I've done some introspection into my own techniques.
I've found that I have "cached and optimized" muscle movements for common combinations of letters. Sometimes I will halt when trying to type a new or rare word.
I have a hunch that they key to quick typing is to alternate between hands as much as possible, and to avoid using the same finger twice in a row.
Eg, when typing 'retry', it is more comfortable as well as faster to hit the first 'r' with index and second 'r' with middle finger.
i just learn touch typing and i can type without looking but my speed are bad only average 35 wpm
How can a person having syndactly ( 50 %) type faster and avoid mistakes. middle and ring finger joined together by a skin flap (50 % ).
By having a surgery!!🤗
Sir suggest me some best software which increased my typing speed
keybr.com and typing club
@@volvobok6644 thanks
Nice works, guys.