No not really. It wasn't just magic. There were other players as well along with the Buss family. They said none of that s*** was true. How you going to do a show and not portray anything to be any type of accurate?
For some reason, I was more fascinated with Larry Bird than anything on that show. But I loved it too. Season 2 was so rushed. We should’ve seen the writing on the wall when they was trying to compact sooooo many years in 7 episodes that it was not getting picked up for a 3rd.
I love how they would switch camera scenes from modern to how it would look in the 70s. I might be wrong, but I don’t think I ever saw a show that did that.
I hated that they canceled it too it was getting so good. Btw I’m a huge lakers and Kobe Bryant fan so I was looking forward to a long series of this show and I found out the last episode of season 2 they canceled it so there wouldn’t be a season 3 smh
Bro I’m a bulls fan I was just waiting to see they’re comedic take on Michael Jordan entering the league and that finals vs the bulls plus the pistons vs lakers man they could have done so much with that show I’m surprised nobody really watched it that 80’s fashion and music ahh man smh I was really digging that show bruh
@@jomarcoliverman4971 man say the bulls, kobe and shaq lakers, kobe post shaq lakers, Brady and the pats, 90's Cowboys..... just so many avenues they could have went down. Just sad they let it end how it did
They took way too many creative liberties with it. I mean this is the one thing I will agree with Aries Spears on and that's probably the only thing I would agree with them on Lakers and reporters along with players and fans s*** on the show and said almost none of it was true
@@flyguy7825So Magic wasn't humping his brains out? He said he got it in plenty not long after he made his announcement... he just won't confess to the rainbow rumors.
@@BoskoShabazzYeah exactly. I can understand you taking some creative liberties to tell a story and to paint a certain narrative. But when you take away too many to the point of lunacy and it just being straight up lies then yeah I don't care to watch it
@Independent365 they butchered the star wars franchise, all the agendas they insert into their films targeting children, and them failing with there recent releases to the point where their ceo stated he would stop disney from getting involved with political issues when he himself was the one that voluntarily got disney involved.
@thedangerwich in case you have not Heard Disney gotta sell TONS of stocks coz they ARE bleeding Money due to poor receptions Their products have been Getting for the last 2 years
2:44 - WB is losing money so they cancelled winning time to cut costs, their main aim is preparing the DCU & making more original films like Oppenheimer!!!!
I was waiting for Winning Time: Chicago. Michael Scottie Dennis Krause Oakley. OMG! Then the rivals like who would portray Kemp Malone, Barkley, Payton, Shaq, Larry, Isiah and others
Nah, they're just creating a lul as they gear up to reintroduce the X-Men and Blade into the mainstream again. They've burned through 80% of the stories all they have left is really the X-Men
That's probably the dumbest thing Vlad has said in a while, "I love Disney projects" stocks down, revenues down, shows have terrible ratings and Disney + still isn't profitable, lol ok Vlad
I was thinking the same thing Vlad must have stock investments in disney to be glizzy gobbling Bob Iger, the idiot who gave Kathleen Kennedy a Star Wars franchise and basically destroyed a trilogy.
Yea, just look at Vinyl which was my favorite show after the Wire. Cancelled after one season due to low ratings and no giving a flying monkeys about cool programming.
I would love to see Winning Time picked up for the Showtime Basketball platform. Name changed to "Showtime", and the story continuing up to the HIV announcement since they started with it. Give us an epilogue with re-enacted photos the two of them at Larry Bird's retirement and a coda.
What I heard about winning time was they were taking too many liberties about real people. Having people believe they were like the characters in the show. Right or wrong, it was a bad look in all. …And the baby thing, the movie Idiocracy is proving prophetic more and more all the time.
Yep, 100% true. Him James Worthy and a few other people came out and said that none of what they portrayed in that show was even close to being accurate. They took way too many creative liberties with it and didn't try to tell anything that was remotely accurate
Using Basic knowledge we all know everything in that show is trademarked, so if nobody gave them permission they would be sued by everyone including the nba
I thought It was pretty clear from the jump why they canceled it. I thought that canceled it because a lot of the players were around during that era questioned the validity of it. They said almost none of it was true especially the parts involved Jerry Buss they took way too many creative liberties with people who can validate that this really happened or not. That's why the show got canceled.
I think they give a disclaimer before the show saying some shit like “some of these events are loosely based on the truth and are exaggerated for entertainment”
Yeah, but you can't do that when there are people actually alive that can dispute that. I don't want to watch anything that has way way too many creative liberties with it. I get the disclaimer but if players and coaches and people are literally saying absolutely none of it went down that way then that's the problem
@@flyguy7825All "based on a true story" movies take creative license... the dialogue and situations are never exact replicas. That's the nature of the biz. You get an idea of what went on, though.
@@KtotheG Oh you're absolutely right. I agree 100% but they took creative licenses too far because players and the Buss family came out and said literally the majority of it was not even true or accurate. That's a problem. I'm not saying everything has to be 100% on the nose accurate, but if none of it is that's a problem. Especially if you can go to the sources yourself. Most of those sources are still around
Magic did a version of his life story on one of the streaming platforms ( I think Netflix) in the past year with him narrating and being interviewed throughout the series. There were articles from former teammates who disagreed with how they were portrayed in the documentary. Magic could not claim "loosely based", only that's how I remember it.
Vlad is the only person I've ever heard that likes what Bob Iger has done to Disney. The man single handedly ruined that family friendly company with that WOKE BS content they're peddling to young kids.
I had 4 kids. One income. BUT, my wife stayed at home. No daycare cost. My wife breast fed. No Similac cost. We homed schooled. A "private education that cost us nothing more than the curriculums that we used, and once we bought the ones for the first child, we had them for ALL of the rest! We used modern cloth diapers, so that was basically one investment of about $600.00, up front, that took us through all of our kids diaper stages. Kids didn't start becoming expensive for us until they got to about 6 or 7 where ballet, taekwondo and the like became factors, but they STILL weren't as expensive as most American families. It's all about life style choices..
@@bkbanditz No, I got it. I'm not saying you shouldn't like it but I'm telling you the reason they can cancel it because most of what was portrayed in the show was not true according to the people involved
I didn't even realize they cancelled it until I watched the last episode, I thought this was 3 or 4 season series at the least. Was hoping they would continue the story with a Kobe/Shaq era series as well
They canceled it because none of that stuff was true. They took way too many creative liberties with it. That's why it got canceled. People were being portrayed in a very f***** up like that just wasn't accurate
I didn’t even know it was cancelled until the finale ended. I was confused for a second because I actually couldn’t believe that they were ending the show. It was damn good.
No, they got rid of it because players along with certain reporters were going to threaten to sue them because none of what they said in the show was accurate
People don’t watch TV anymore. Hollywood is dead movies are dead. You can’t even name to good movies in the last few years RUclips is the future and platforms like this have a greater entertainment value.
This is the best conversation between vlad and Aries I’ve EVER HEARD! 😂 Great even exchanges, subtle overtalk, it was superb!
One of the best basketball shows I’ve seen I hate they canceled it.
Really because it was all full of lies and deceitfulness to paint a completely awful narrative
@@flyguy7825 just entertainment my guy
The Larry Bird casting was just as brilliant as Magic.
*Stares at screen..
We got 'em!
😂😂
why, because in 300 million citizens they found one ugly tall white guy who looks like Larry Bird?
They really shit the bed cancelling this show. Casted so well.
Oh yeah. You had to get it right
Magic worked that “magic” and got it cancelled
That’s a bar…
If Magic was that powerful the show would have never came out
Magic didn’t like the show?
No not really. It wasn't just magic. There were other players as well along with the Buss family. They said none of that s*** was true. How you going to do a show and not portray anything to be any type of accurate?
True Facts
Winning time was by far one of the best scripted tv shows or Movie based off of a sports team outside of Remember the titans or 42
Same thing ESPN did with Playmakers in the early 2000s
That show "playmakers" was raw and I enjoyed it but it was over-the-top
Still love watching playmakers !
For some reason, I was more fascinated with Larry Bird than anything on that show. But I loved it too. Season 2 was so rushed. We should’ve seen the writing on the wall when they was trying to compact sooooo many years in 7 episodes that it was not getting picked up for a 3rd.
Yeah I agree. The pacing seemed rushed from the first episode of season 2. My hope is that some other network picks it up. It was a great show!
I loved the bird character
Bird is portrayed like a damn serial killer villain in it, love it
HBO stuck it out with The Wire even when ratings were low but shook the spot on this Lakers show... Must have some Celtics fans as HBO executives 😂
Don't forget the Sapranos and Game of Thrones
Yep.
Winning time is extremely expensive. Not only that but we're in the middle of a writer/actor strike
HBO has changed hands like 4 times since then. Unfortunately we won't likely get that magic again unless the show is a consistent hit...
HBO MAX, not HBO
People not knowing John C. Reilly is also an amazing serious actor will always be crazy to me .
I love how they would switch camera scenes from modern to how it would look in the 70s. I might be wrong, but I don’t think I ever saw a show that did that.
The director who made the pilot is known for doing that.
Casting was phenomenal.
Definitely was on point
Max canceling 'Winning Time: Rise Of The Lakers Dynasty' is the most egregious shit ever.
I hated that they canceled it too it was getting so good. Btw I’m a huge lakers and Kobe Bryant fan so I was looking forward to a long series of this show and I found out the last episode of season 2 they canceled it so there wouldn’t be a season 3 smh
Man I just knew they where gonna go to so many different teams and dynasties honestly thought they could've went forever
Bro I’m a bulls fan I was just waiting to see they’re comedic take on Michael Jordan entering the league and that finals vs the bulls plus the pistons vs lakers man they could have done so much with that show I’m surprised nobody really watched it that 80’s fashion and music ahh man smh I was really digging that show bruh
@@jomarcoliverman4971 man say the bulls, kobe and shaq lakers, kobe post shaq lakers, Brady and the pats, 90's Cowboys..... just so many avenues they could have went down. Just sad they let it end how it did
Once it was announced season 2 was only 7 episodes we should’ve known the show was on its way to getting cancelled.
They took way too many creative liberties with it. I mean this is the one thing I will agree with Aries Spears on and that's probably the only thing I would agree with them on Lakers and reporters along with players and fans s*** on the show and said almost none of it was true
@@flyguy7825 oh yea they took so many liberties that for me personally it wasn’t even all that enjoyable to watch.
@@flyguy7825So Magic wasn't humping his brains out? He said he got it in plenty not long after he made his announcement... he just won't confess to the rainbow rumors.
@@BoskoShabazzYeah exactly. I can understand you taking some creative liberties to tell a story and to paint a certain narrative. But when you take away too many to the point of lunacy and it just being straight up lies then yeah I don't care to watch it
They cancelled the show for low veiwership ratings ironically it's popular amongst basketball fans
Yeah i was pissed off too! But some reality tv bullshit can have like 10 seasons 🙄 Bird casting was phenomenal too!
I'm glad my HBO subscription comes with my phone plan. otherwise, there's really not a lot better to pay for.
What phone plan is that ?
Vlad saying Disney is the best and his favorite really tells you how much he hasn't actually kept up with disney nowadays.
How so?
@Independent365 they butchered the star wars franchise, all the agendas they insert into their films targeting children, and them failing with there recent releases to the point where their ceo stated he would stop disney from getting involved with political issues when he himself was the one that voluntarily got disney involved.
Yea... We gon need you to Elaborate. Because I know for me I've watched more Disney in the past 5 years than the 40 years before it combined
That or he just loves their work. Disney still makes heat. What you like is subjective.
@thedangerwich in case you have not Heard Disney gotta sell TONS of stocks coz they ARE bleeding Money due to poor receptions Their products have been Getting for the last 2 years
2:44 - WB is losing money so they cancelled winning time to cut costs, their main aim is preparing the DCU & making more original films like Oppenheimer!!!!
Also Barbie movie made a Billion dollars so they are focusing on a sequel to that
@@rondoughhowell6442 Yh probably & the same goes for Joker!!!!
I was waiting for Winning Time: Chicago. Michael Scottie Dennis Krause Oakley. OMG! Then the rivals like who would portray Kemp Malone, Barkley, Payton, Shaq, Larry, Isiah and others
Would be called something else since “winning time” is a playon for “showtime” aka “showtime lakers”
Nigga it’s football season we were still watching the show
It was because of the ratings but the promo for season 2 wasn’t good so that didn’t help
Disney has fallen off and it’s common knowledge
Nah, they're just creating a lul as they gear up to reintroduce the X-Men and Blade into the mainstream again. They've burned through 80% of the stories all they have left is really the X-Men
That's probably the dumbest thing Vlad has said in a while, "I love Disney projects" stocks down, revenues down, shows have terrible ratings and Disney + still isn't profitable, lol ok Vlad
No they hv not. Check the catalog
😂😂😂 they still make more money
Aries’ skin is glowing in this. Bro looks healthy👏🏾
magic hated the show cause he doesn't like all that stuff coming out about him
No vlad Disney been terrible under dude wtf r you on? That’s the reason they’re losing money
I was thinking the same thing Vlad must have stock investments in disney to be glizzy gobbling Bob Iger, the idiot who gave Kathleen Kennedy a Star Wars franchise and basically destroyed a trilogy.
I never disliked the real people until now. The fake characters were awesome. Way more likable than the insecure real people
They cancelled it because it’s all TRUE
@@lord_cobiNah, but it was the '70s... there are no virgins and saints in the '70s.
if it was all true, I'd be disappointed the reality was so boring and predictable.
Great show. I was so mad!
That shit was trash to me 😂😂😂😂😂 last few episode it seems like it’s a writing strike ahahahah
Screw HBO. This is the worst finale in this history of TV, and it’s on HBO not the writers and show runners
It was such a good show. I was wondering why it got canceled.
I didn't understand the rebuttal from some when the show pulled mainly from the book. You didn't hear an uproar about that.
"Lotta Lakers don't like the show"= Too Real
Apparently Vlad hasn't been watching Disney lately
What do you mean?
@@Independent365 the ESPN network isn't as good as it was
@rondoughhowell6442
I have Spectrum cable. They're not getting along with Disney, and now, FX, ESPN, and Free-form has been taking down..
BRING WINNING TIME BACK!!!😢😭😭😭
"well one Netflix special don't...." LMFAOOOO
This is my favorite comedian of all time 💯
What? This dude's whack
Unfortunately HBO has been doing this to shows for decades now.
Yea, just look at Vinyl which was my favorite show after the Wire. Cancelled after one season due to low ratings and no giving a flying monkeys about cool programming.
When they cancelled Lovecraft Country you knew HBO was on nonsense
Yup" I was shocked loved that show it was a fabulous show.
Loved the show
A great book is called Showtime about the 1980s Lakers is a great book
It’s good to see Vlad enjoying the person he’s interviewing 👍🏾
I would love to see Winning Time picked up for the Showtime Basketball platform. Name changed to "Showtime", and the story continuing up to the HIV announcement since they started with it.
Give us an epilogue with re-enacted photos the two of them at Larry Bird's retirement and a coda.
Exactly!
John C Reily, the dude who plays Magic, and the dude who plays Jerry West all need Emmy Nominations
What I heard about winning time was they were taking too many liberties about real people. Having people believe they were like the characters in the show. Right or wrong, it was a bad look in all. …And the baby thing, the movie Idiocracy is proving prophetic more and more all the time.
What baby?
Yea that pissed me off… That series was getting good 😡… they just narrated it out and ended it 🤦🏾♂️
I am so pissed they cancelled it!!
Magic claimed that no one gave them permission to make that show
Yep, 100% true. Him James Worthy and a few other people came out and said that none of what they portrayed in that show was even close to being accurate. They took way too many creative liberties with it and didn't try to tell anything that was remotely accurate
Using Basic knowledge we all know everything in that show is trademarked, so if nobody gave them permission they would be sued by everyone including the nba
5:17 facts
Aries just mad he got to wear his hat for a minimum of 2 years😂chicken grease n eyything
Im so pissed they cancelled Winning Time 😭
Its a shame that ESPN never released the Cornhuskers 30 for 30.
The writers strike is what got the show canceled 😢😢. Please bring winning time back
Man that show was good too
They really canceled the show 🤦🏾♂️
I thought It was pretty clear from the jump why they canceled it. I thought that canceled it because a lot of the players were around during that era questioned the validity of it. They said almost none of it was true especially the parts involved Jerry Buss they took way too many creative liberties with people who can validate that this really happened or not. That's why the show got canceled.
I think they give a disclaimer before the show saying some shit like “some of these events are loosely based on the truth and are exaggerated for entertainment”
Yeah, but you can't do that when there are people actually alive that can dispute that. I don't want to watch anything that has way way too many creative liberties with it. I get the disclaimer but if players and coaches and people are literally saying absolutely none of it went down that way then that's the problem
@@flyguy7825All "based on a true story" movies take creative license... the dialogue and situations are never exact replicas. That's the nature of the biz. You get an idea of what went on, though.
@@KtotheG Oh you're absolutely right. I agree 100% but they took creative licenses too far because players and the Buss family came out and said literally the majority of it was not even true or accurate. That's a problem. I'm not saying everything has to be 100% on the nose accurate, but if none of it is that's a problem. Especially if you can go to the sources yourself. Most of those sources are still around
Magic did a version of his life story on one of the streaming platforms ( I think Netflix) in the past year with him narrating and being interviewed throughout the series. There were articles from former teammates who disagreed with how they were portrayed in the documentary. Magic could not claim "loosely based", only that's how I remember it.
Vlad is the only person I've ever heard that likes what Bob Iger has done to Disney. The man single handedly ruined that family friendly company with that WOKE BS content they're peddling to young kids.
I agree lol. Disney is horrible. I even think the quality of Marvel movies have went down since Disney bought them.
This show made Jerry Buss look like an idiot, it made Paul Westhead look timid and it made Jerry West look like a rage machine. None of that is true.
Bring it back
I watch absolutely NOTHING on Apple TV, lol
I had 4 kids. One income. BUT, my wife stayed at home. No daycare cost. My wife breast fed. No Similac cost. We homed schooled. A "private education that cost us nothing more than the curriculums that we used, and once we bought the ones for the first child, we had them for ALL of the rest! We used modern cloth diapers, so that was basically one investment of about $600.00, up front, that took us through all of our kids diaper stages. Kids didn't start becoming expensive for us until they got to about 6 or 7 where ballet, taekwondo and the like became factors, but they STILL weren't as expensive as most American families. It's all about life style choices..
I just started watching Winning time and thought it was great! Hate to hear they are canceling it.
Jerry Wrst is my favorite character on the show 😂
Aries: I’m not a football dude, Vlad
Vlad: Me neither, not enough homeruns.
I love that Lakers show i was upset too 💯💯💯💯💯💯😢😢😢😢😢
Why would you be upset with it when the players who were around doing that era along with reporters said none of that stuff was accurate or true
@@flyguy7825 cause I like it
@@bkbanditz No, I got it. I'm not saying you shouldn't like it but I'm telling you the reason they can cancel it because most of what was portrayed in the show was not true according to the people involved
Show was awesome.
Lakers is the best NBA team of all the time and playas like KOBE, Magic and Lebron long live Lakers
The article wasn’t about canceled subscriptions. It was about canceled shows Vlad
I didn't even realize they cancelled it until I watched the last episode, I thought this was 3 or 4 season series at the least. Was hoping they would continue the story with a Kobe/Shaq era series as well
Aries please keep that hat 🧢 glued to your dome
Damn I didn’t know it was cancelled, I’m only a few episodes into season 2.
The ratings were 🗑️. That's why it was cancelled.
Nah it was popular😂 the players just didn’t like it.
@@essies4294 it only average 905,000 viewers
No, they canceled it because they were about to get sued by a whole bunch of people including the Buss family because 90% of it was b*******
The promo for this season was trash, alot of people didnt know it was back
I agree why cancel it. We need to do a petetion
They canceled it because none of that stuff was true. They took way too many creative liberties with it. That's why it got canceled. People were being portrayed in a very f***** up like that just wasn't accurate
I'm pissed too, i watched that show religiously!!!! Somebody from the Celtics got the show cancelled 🤷🏾♂️
At least finish the showtime era...
I didn’t even know it was cancelled until the finale ended. I was confused for a second because I actually couldn’t believe that they were ending the show. It was damn good.
They cancel HBO Max because they switch up their who platform got rid of a lot of stuff and basically said they cutting back on the platform
No, they got rid of it because players along with certain reporters were going to threaten to sue them because none of what they said in the show was accurate
@@flyguy7825 bro I’m talking about HBO MAX Subscription not the actual show
Def should fire who cancelled it…
We need a petition to bring that show back
All the real people involved said the show was not real at all
People don’t watch TV anymore. Hollywood is dead movies are dead. You can’t even name to good movies in the last few years RUclips is the future and platforms like this have a greater entertainment value.
HBO subscription is too high compared to Netflix Hulu starz etc…. That’s why it’s high
money. viewership is down. don't want things to get canceled, support them from the beginning.
Man I love that show bro..
Reason Apple+ is the least because is on the Apple Music family plan. Apple+ is trash. I been had it for years and never watch it😂😂😂
Hbo max subscriptions are down because of the ads
The 1st season was 🔥 this 2nd season started to get boring
People didn’t cancel HBO Max… it came free with ATT phone service and it’s no longer offered…
I hope Showtime picks it up and rename "Showtime"
Now watch when the clippers show comes out it will blow it out of the water on fx coming soon
The first episode showed Magic getting HIV and then ended with the Celtics winning 😂😂. Like come on now!
You can tell they were planning to focus more on that in season 3 or 4. It's crazy
I got Apple TV but I don’t watch it. I’m guessing I’m the average Apple TV owner too.
I was really getting into it, loved the show
That Show Was❤🔥❤🔥❤🔥❤🔥❤🔥
Aries asked about Kountry Wayne’s bread like he ain’t making more than him.
I never watched an episode. Seemed like a niche audience show.
They did ZERO promotion for that show
They dropped winning time like no one was alive from back then to speak on it
They. Did. What??????