Who cares what he thinks? The fact is most people didn’t even realize he was gone lmao y’all hate racist so much unless it’s a black one lol he argued with a man who is mentally Ill and y’all clapped like seals
Lmfao Ye didn't even say that. Bet yall weirdos didn't even get it. 400 years sound like a choice. They put it in the school books, and you didn't even think or question it. Just like their white Jesus and Christopher Colombus "discovering" America. White people writing History and feed it to your children. The man is too ahead.
This brother is phenomenal! I don’t think Van realizes how powerful his voice is and how essential it will be in the future of Blacks progressing in this country. I’m glad he realized he was worth more than TMZ and found his own voice and space to create.
Y’all are 🐑. He went from working from one white man to another white man who is probably more racist. Bill Simmons literally gets paid for Van to speak. How is that powerful?
I love how Van responded to Kanye. You were honest and sincere. You backed up what you said , you explained it to him intelligently, without belittling him.
Hearing Vlad recite What Van said to Kanye at TMZ just shows Van's intelligence and mental capacity. I would not have been able to string a response that on point and in such short amount time with the same effectiveness.
This response is the best response I have ever heard. He touched on the past and present and the physical and mental and how it affects everyone differently. Genius!
Kanye was right though… 400 years of slavery was a choice!!! Maybe you should go back and watch the full interview and listen to what Kanye actually sad!!!
@@ONETAKEBKLYN Fr Kanye has a tendency to use analogies and with the slavery choice thing I think he was tryna say that he thinks they had the wrong mindset and kinda chose to withstand the harsh consequences unfairly given to them because of the color of their skin and not everyone able to dig deep enough into what he said cuz everyone sees him as a crazy dude now and as a villain and like makin him look bad for speaking his truth regardless what people have to say Kanye’s gonna be Kanye
@@Shutup-hk7pb I agree with Kanye as in the mindset of now. I don't think anyone chose slavery all those years ago but people are still in mentality of being slaves when it just isn't true today. They play the victim is what I believe he meant today when everyone has the same opportunity as anyone else in America. Sure, there are individual racist of ever race but you can still do what you want and no one is being held as a slave against their will. We wouldn't have any black celebrities or rich, successful ones if that was the case but we do.
I think he was saying it could’ve stimulated a larger conversation beyond just those two, that could’ve been beneficial to society, had he gone. But there’s no way Kanye and the Kardashians would’ve let that happen; it would’ve just been damage control for them.
Nothing but respect for Van. Love the truth, honesty and self reflection. And the missed opportunity will come back around, and it will be when you most need it and can most appreciate it.
Slavery was taught to us in reverse our ancestors weren’t slaves. Slaves meant servant of your family or anyone else. We were called slaves when our Indian ancestors entered the corporation on their own rather than being with the tribe. They killed a lot of our warriors and chiefs and women and kids. We experienced a Holocaust fuck slavery we were done wrong on our own lands by black and white Europeans moors and other traitors!
That was so beautiful what he said and I’m paraphrasing can not let my ancestors be seen as a symbol of weakness when they are not image of strength. Most powerful thing I have heard someone say on any vladtv interview. I hope this brother has much success.
This guy is a lot more introspective and intelligent than I assumed just from seeing him on TMZ. I hope he gets his own vehicle from these and other interviews. He has some great points.
Don't hold your breath. Haven't seen his BETA ass on anything worthy since. I just feel bad for the future offsprings that come through these weak men. They ain't going to even have a fighting chance in America. They'll most likely make the choice to be victims.
@@lindy8077 lol the things you folks say . Just say that you hate when blk ppl talk about how bad slavery was , just say that punk. Who's being the beta now
I really respect the way Van Lathan stood strong on his words and convictions on checking Kanye. It took some integrity to refuse to go along to get along.
You’re a go along get along type of person because , you don’t think for yourself and integrity comes from standing up for yourself vs going with the crowd. Your statement is that of sheep.
@@mosthighlawson3872 Instead of "was a choice", it should be said, "is a choice" since the slavery Kanye was talking about is the mental slavery that we are currently under and have been under since the ending of chattel slavery in 1865. The mere fact that he said 400 years explains this bc chattel slavery only lasted around 245 years (1619-1865). So Kanye wasn't saying that our ancestors 400 years ago chose to be slaves. Anyone regurgitating that lie is operating from a place of ignorance. He was saying us continuing to be slaves TODAY, is a choice.
@@rationalsportsfanatic7416 I agree with you… it’s funny how he makes slave clothes and shoes and we buy it up… we can’t get rid of that mindset… he was saying we need to think free feel free and be free!!! It’s a choice to remain in this position…
At first i thought he didn’t understand what Kanye was saying; after hearing this I rock with him 100% u can’t dismiss our Ancestors and the pain they had to endure for us to reach this point of questioning their Morality
@@mearllee3511 I think what Kanye meant was similar to like manifestation and like the mindset people have on certain situations and that the slaves had the wrong mindset idk if that’s right but lmk
Our Ancestors thank you, Van. To this day, he is the only one that confronted that clown" Ye" and put him in his place about this crap. You are the true dream realized! Much love brotha!
@@gigglemaniarunninwild2207 The bottom line is this guy's telling us what we want to hear. No celebrity of any color. Is no athlete of any color or personality person can teach me anything about life.
He didn't explain it bruh. He gave his version which is incorrect. Kanye meant "How could we stay slaves when it was more of us than the whites? We should of been killing them and slowly taking them over" Think about the movies, it was only a slave master with all the slaves lined up. All they had to do was kill the master and any whites that showed up. Put it like this, if a dude comes up with a gun and it's 10 of us, we could all rush him because he can't kill 10 of us at the same time (Proof, soldiers in the middle east that get captured by terriost because they run up and aren't scared of the gun) The fact you couldn't understand Kanye without Van smearing him is amazing to me. Critical thinking has been lost.
@@DaddyLogic Their bullets outnumbered us and never in the history of man has 100% of any huge group of people agreed on everything. Many Many, MANY revolts were snuffed out by ONE SNITCH. Kanye is an ...... (Not good noun)
@@DaddyLogic Kanye's lunatic rant made it seem as if our ancestors as a whole just accepted slavery. Ignoring that 300 warriors can get undercut and destroyed because of ONE coward. Anyone who thinks we "chose" to be in that situation is THE FARTHEST THING from a critical thinker. Look at the Nat Turner revolt, thwarted by a snitch...
@@DaddyLogic u need to do more research. In America enslaved Africans we're never the majority of the population. U talking about some shit u seen a movie lol. That ain't facts.
I'm willing to bet the same people who hated what Kanye said cheered when Killmonger said, "Just bury me in the ocean with my ancestors that jumped from the ships because they knew death was better than bondage."
Harriett Tubman said it was a choice! Our generation is so ignorant, just because you don't like the alternative, doesn't mean that you didn't have a choice!
I’m glad you made that decision Van cause I definitely would’ve felt like you sold out if you took that picture the next day. I remember watching that clip and feeling like man, somebody stood up to this clown. I gained so much respect for you then and even now I have a new found respect for you my brother. Keep being a revolutionary and changing the world 1 step at a time. ✊🏾
BuiltLegendzTV Yea I would have hated to see Van break bread with Kanye after that moment. Kanye deserved to stew for a bit. He doesn't get to flex his celebrity and make things alright again. Ef that.
@@BwoodsGod27 If you fight, lose, and then become enslaved anyway, what then? The Africans were literally overpowered, physically and mentally. They were broken. If you're looking at it like, "I could remain here, or I could hold my breathe until my brain stops working," and the person didn't choose to hold their breathe until they're life expired, I guess I see your point.
@@ChristopherX30 what then? You keep fighting. Either you die for a cause or live for someone else. Ye had a point. As a matter of fact slaves didnt become free bc they fought their enemy, they were let go. Their enemy found a better way to make a profit off of them and thats exactly what happen then and whats happening now. The only reason we focus more on white folks owning slaves over everybody else who was doing it at the time is bc white folks benefited the most from it. But this is where Ye was wrong, the slaves that were born into slavery were doomed from birth bc that was life to them. The 1st batch of slaves shouldve fought way b4 white folks got their hands on them bc what most ppl dont know is that those slaves were slaves in africa 1st. Thats how white folks got their hands on them bc they were for sell by other africans, who saw them as outsiders, criminals etc.
@@demontreten I keep hearing people say this and I keep asking, how do you know this? Where was this documented? What are your sources that say Africans sold each other into slavery? I’m not saying it didn’t happen I’m just trying to understand where this information came from. For whatever reason NO ONE can tell me
I watched that whole situation on TMZ and that was one off the most powerful moment I’ve ever seen on T.V. He’s brilliant with his words, thank you Van.❤️
Kanye wasn't challenging or criticizing our ancestors, by saying, "that sounds like a choice." He was challenging you and I to break free from the mental slavery that we are currently under.
@@Lex-hm9xg No he didn’t. He acknowledged that Kanye was referencing mental slavery as well as the physical aspect of it, but he still said that Kanye was attacking/challenging our ancestors with his comments, and that’s just not the case. He claims to be upset bc Kanye disrespected our ancestors, well if it’s revealed that Kanye wasn’t addressing our ancestors, but rather he was talking to us (telling us to break free from mental slavery) then there’s no reason for Van to be upset with him then, right?
@@Lex-hm9xg and just bc a person is talking about something, doesn’t mean they’re addressing it. They could be talking around it. They could be lying about it. They could be talking on it from an ignorant perspective. Or they could just be saying a bunch of nothing that just sounds good/smart/articulate.
I can appreciate how well spoken as well as articulate Van is, by far 1 of the best things TMZ lost letting him go or him going to leave anyway, or whatever the case is.
Dope I’m glad he challenged Kanye in that moment, he’s absolutely right. Some of these celebrities sometimes feel they can say or doing anything because of their talent people just going to go along with it. Well not this brother
Did you watch the whole interview??? 400 years of slavery was a choice!!! Kanye also sad you should be able to say what you feel rather it’s viewed as positive or negative… but to think free feel free and be free!!! We still in slavery!!!
@@mosthighlawson3872 what slave has a thousand dollar phone and can watch & comment on these videos without getting whipped or hanged. So your no slave, and I damn sure ain’t. So cut it out. Comparing yourself or as you said all of us as slaves is completely disrespectful to real slaves
Kanye want to talk about “slavery was a choice” well those Asians who makes his Yeezy sneakers don’t have much of a choice at higher wages now do they. Why don’t he demand Adidas Gap and all the other fashion brands he works with or wear to pay those factory workers more so they don’t have to live like slaves. But that would affect profit margins and he probably would have never made it to Billionaire status 🤔think about it
"I freed hundreds I could have freed thousands, if only they knew they were slaves" - Harriet Tubman. Basically the same thing Kanye said. He was correct. The Haitians made a choice to NOT be slaves at all cost.
@@ibervillezee9142 that's not the point. They couldn't predict what the future would hold. France made Haiti suffer for their choice and the world watched. There is so much evil being allowed to happen in this world.
You also forgot to mention that Haitian slaves vastly outnumbered their slave owners on a small colonial Island. While the slaves in the US were out numbered in a country vastly bigger than Haiti. You seem to be doing the same thing Kanye did. Speaking on history without, purposefully or not, putting the historical situations you refer to in proper context.
Ye said "400 years of slavery SOUNDS like a choice." When certain black ppl hear the word slavery everything else goes out the window. Van even just acknowledged he understood what Kanye was tryna say, but he acted like he didn't at TMZ in front of the white man and the camera.
Yeah even I understood what Kanye meant, but on a national platform such as TMZ, that would have caused even more hellfire if Kanye wasn't checked for that. Of course, they get Van to do it because other races of people in that room may not go against that statement. I'm sure there were many, many slaves that chose to be on the plantation than to rather run away back then; but 400 years though? Bruh.
@@bradlee5874 many didn't even leave after they were freed. They had to be paid and they couldn't be held against their will, but they stayed working for the same masters.
Saying slavery was a choice is like saying any other genocide in history was a choice. He was so disrespectful for that no matter how he meant it. Like van said don’t try to make them an example of mental weakness. Kanye be having breakdowns over bandaid colors
@@andresc1143 if this OP is shaming folks for “still rocking with Kanye” after he said intangible things that ultimately effects no one’s lives, then what is your excuse for still “rocking with America” which tangibly effects the community every day with its laws, corrupt politics, police, etc.
VAN,,,, WE LOVE YOU ,,, AND WE ARE HERE FOR YOU 💯💯💯 ,,,,LET THEM KNOW THAT YOU CAN SAY WHAT EVER YOU WANT AND WE SALUTE TO YOU SIR ,,,FOR STANDING UP FOR US PERIOD SO KEEP ON PREACHING GENERAL THE REAL........ FROM DETROIT SIR VAN WE SALUTE TO YOU.....❤️🖤❤️🖤❤️🖤
People still choose to ignore what Kanye said even after Vlad was reading his exact words. Ye said "That sounds like a choice." What he said was how come we didn't fight then for our freedom if it was more of us vs one slave owner. Ye stands on the freedom of our people. Please wake up and see the deep meaning of what he was trying to say. The intentions means more than the wording. He's passionate about our people and freedom for all races as well. But, it's 2021 now and he's growing as a person. Love you all! Ye loves you as well. Peace and keep God with you 24/7!
I hear ya, but some stuff you should just leave alone honestly. That statement definitely could have been omitted. If you want to talk about modern times, cool, but we can’t be diggin up shit like slavery and assume shit when none of us who inhabit this technological world we live in now we’re never there. Tf
@@emptytablegaming i feel u and ur right. we have evolved. thats like us criticizing cave men for staying cold when they got fire wood. i just wish people would see a person's true intentions.
@@ashenone3427 some intentions just cause for universal understanding and being clear and concise. If it’s hard to understand or correlate, the message will never be heard. Ye just has/had to understand that
Slavery was a choice. There were a few hundreds of whites that got off that ship when it docked in Africa, confronting a few thousand sub-Saharan Africans. We as blacks had every opportunity bumrush the slave handlers for 400 hundred years, a few times we did start an uprising and failed but at least we tried.
Bumrush the slave handlers with guns?you see yo Top warrior get smoke in front you thats gon slow you down make u 💡Special when u have no guns to fight with
@@blacgod4550 They had muskets that take 60 minutes to reload gun powder after every shot. Blacks had the chance to either bumrush them or chuck spears at them. Shaka Zulu would die trying.
Much love from Baton Rouge . I fuck with Van, dude always speaking facts in the most articulate way possible. You can tell he really put thought into all his plays. 💯
Van gives in depth responses and reads history but folks who thought Kanye really said something only like sound bites and tweets and don’t like to read books
Exactly . I’m not a fan of him at all because he says crazy things and really believed it . To me the media beefs him up and to me he is not anymore intelligent than us but a brilliant business man . That’s the facts . Van told the truth .
The Holocaust only lasted like 7 years and it was also the entire German military with a shit ton of machine guns vs a minority population that were taken from their homes with nothing lmao. Kanye makes a good point but no one has an open enough mind to just think about it and not get angry
@@bushwxcker540 Kanye is generally a shit person ... Example : Slavery was a choice ,. I don't care how many big words or turns and turns you can have to clarify this one ,it was purely idiotic
Very great response both in the moment and after the fact via the interview. Kanye was wildin and its obvious that no one has ever really checked him in such a manner before. I'm glad that Lathan never validated Kanye and his opinions by going to his house to converse with him on the subject
At the time I tried to follow Kanyes train of thought but soon I had doubts as well and i remember when he asked the room their opinion, I was thinking, "if no one says anything then I'm going to be worried." It's hard to say so easily that slavery was a choice because instinctively we are hard wired to survive and will navigate our environment to do that. Except for those enslaved, those environments were extremely limited. Our capacity to think was limited and most of our knowledge came from the experiences of those that came before you.
That's the problem. You left one slave master just to be programmed by another (Kanye Train) you must be a weak person to "Follow a train". Do you like trains? It sounds like you like trains. Bend over train boi 😂😂😂😂
Slavery was definitely a choice if you think Ye was crazy, it’s shows how “Misinformed” we as African Americans are with our history. To honestly say with all your feelings and emotions behind saying “slavery wasn’t a choice is just as crazy as calling Kanye crazy.” Our African ancestors that came off the boat FOUGHT their way out of slavery for US TO BE HERE. Honestly Ye needs an apologies from all the miseducated African Americans but they obviously never paid attention to -3 Fingered Jack - Leader of Jamaican Maroons of the freed Blackmen of 18th century -Nat Turner - if you seen birth of a nation i shouldn’t have to say anything about Nat Turner -Boukman - educated the slaves on the plantation while leading the Haitian Revolution There’s plenty of more but the point is that OUR AFRICAN ANCESTORS FOUGHT our way out. The colonizer didn’t just wake up one day and had a change of heart. Africans would die at the stake if they didn’t comply which feared the majority to be decile during the slave trade, they knew the consequences of their actions, which was death so “THEY CHOSE” to be in captivity for survival. Most of us African Americans were MISEDUCATED on that because it always looked like we had no willpower since our history books starts the African at slavery. These slave rebellions were Africans PILLAGING white folks for our freedom, WE CHOSE FREEDOM.
@@HitmanAvery I get what you mean. But when someone says that slavery was a choice, it feels as though they are saying that we just all decided to get on the boat willingly, without putting up any opposition, and allowed for slavery to exist; When in reality, the bodies of slaves were under complete physical, mental, and psychological control. There are doctrines that you can actually view online that explains the process of brainwashing slaves to keep control which when you read it, sounds similar to instructions on how to control large herds of cattle. The only difference is that psychological control was the main mechanism that was used to limit our ability to see outside the lines of slavery. Of course there were revolts and this was a choice; but being taken from your family and forced into work with no pay or guarantee of a solidified future was not a choice. It was necessary for survival. For 400 years we were culturally destroyed and the lingering damage of that cultural destruction still exists today. They even went as far as to put other blacks in specific rankings where the high ranking blacks would then control other blacks which caused division and hatred towards one another. For 400 years, the psychological, physical, and mental control was fine tuned similar to how a programmer fine tunes a software program. To say this was a choice, for me at least, quickly bypasses the cruel reality which these slaves endured and perpetuates the idea that these psychological limitations did not exist which is not true. I'd ask you to read about a man named William lynch, a man who mastered the ability to control the perception and attitudes of his slaves by creating division and hatred towards owns self and others. A lot of Williams philosophies are still used today in corporate America to keep their employees happy while at the same time maximizing productivity.
Seeing two strong strong minded black men expresses how they feel to each other without it being super intense or any violent acts happening is amazing to see.
I love this dude. There’s an introspection, eloquence, and insight that are not found in the vast majority of Vlad’s other interview subjects (i.e. Boosie 😒). Van should become one of your regular guests, Vlad. Might not generate as many clicks as those other morons, but it’ll instill some much needed integrity into your channel.
Exactly Van broke it down , and yet people still say he didn’t get what Kanye was coming from. I get what Kanye was saying but he also insinuated that slaves chose to stay in their position without questioning their mental strength about whether or not they should run away to freedom or stay so they could sneak out and visit their family members at the next plantation.
Honestly what Kanye said a lot of people aren’t ready to have the convo about. He simply wanted to attack oppression a different way. He was offering advice on how we could go about things differently and instead of hearing him out Van just hung on a few words and tried to make Kanye look stupid. There really is no winning in this argument Ice Cube wanted to have a talk with Trump on how to help the black community and people tried to attack cube. Would advise people to listen to Dr. Boyce and other black prominent voices and not CNN all the time.
Yes, what Kanye said was groundbreaking. There certainly weren't people who thought an uprising would be enough for a takeover (sarcasm). Real life isn't as simple as suddenly banding together, that's not how people work. Similar to how we end up with only two choices in elections, when third party candidates exist. Playing with the semantics of "choice" dances around framing slaves as being content.
@@BLOCKchainGANGgang exactly. Instead of acknowledging the shit he said... at the time he said and in the context he said was categorically stupid and garage cats want to pretend it was deeper than what it was. Kanye might be a musical genius(emphasis on "might") but being so doesn't mean he isn't fucking dumb somewhere else. But what's more important is actions cause let's be real this isn't his 1st take on slavery. People forget he went on a rant about "new slaves" during yeezus and when sway suggests he had other choices then he scream on how? sway how? on him. He also talk about artist needing to own their masters and than proceed to NOT give big sean his. Sometimes dude ain't being deep.. he's marketing.
Real shit bruh. They twisted Kanye words cuz they knew he was opening eyes to the sheep. Why not die fighting... everybody not just a few. If all of us fought back they would've learned not to belittle us. Even indians, natives and Mexicans fight back
I love this brother forever for taking a stand and lovingly stating what the collective was thinking. He needs to run for political office, he has the knowledge and temperament needed to be an effective leader.
Bruhhh 🤦🏽♂️ everything except for “run for office”…. That whole ass mentality how Trump got elected … these celebrities and television personalities SHOULD NOT be politicians and/or run for president just because they’re somewhat smart and well spoken…. Huge L’s for everyone who liked your comment 🤦🏽♂️
This comment is proof that black people like anything and anyone that makes us feel good. All you gotta do is say something black people want to hear and we’ll elect you into the White House lol.
@@swanm3ta850 fr the nigga even said in the video that he agreed with what kanye was saying but had a problem with it cuz ye was using his ancestors as an example
Kanye was right. Think about it. We still slaves today. We work hard and own nothing. We’re behind everything. We have to work twice as hard and still get less. We gotta fee crumbs but as a whole we own 1/2 of 1% of the wealth in this country.
We're not slaves today. He CAN own something if we decide to work towards it. The difference is that we have the freedom to choose our destiny now. That is something that our ancestors couldn't do.
@@ChristopherX30 they had the choice to die fighting....didnt America's forefather said give me liberty or give me death? So we acting like die fighting wasnt a choice? MLK and malcolm knew they were gonna be killed but they chose to be killed rather than see black ppl being treated the way we're were being treated. Now what would have happen if they chose to live???? The same problem we had back in slavery is the same problem we have now...only a very few black people are ready to pay the ultimate price for equality. You notice how hard it is for the West to gain total domination over the Middle East? Cause many of those people are prepared to die before surrendering to anyone.
And Kanye says “400 years”. He doesn’t mean when they brought them over in boats it was a choice. He means 400 years from then and he still sees his bro and sis with that slave mindset. Was his point.
“You can’t have them as your example of weakness cuz to me their my example of strength” real shit...id assume egotistical ye would say “that means im stronger then you 😂😂
Now Van is contradicting himself by saying he understands what Kanye was trying to say but says Kanye viewed slaves as weak when Kanye was talking about acknowledging weakness in order to start to become strong.
That’s is literally his whole point. By your own words Kanye was “acknowledging” the “weakness” of slaves by saying it was a choice. Yeah, a choice between working as slaves or a gruesome slow death for you/your family. That’s like calling someone a bitch for getting robbed at gunpoint while unarmed, the kind of thing you only would say if you’ve never been in that kind of situation. I don’t think that Kanye intended to disrespect black people, but he did regardless of his intention. You can’t just cop out and say “that’s not what I meant” you are responsible for the way you speak, not just what you say
I am not American but Black European with African roots and I fucking love Van and am so proud of him!! 🖤🤎✊🏾 Plus his mind and his heart is just sooooo attractive to me. Van is just so hot to me,he is my type 😍.
Dang, man..smh Kanye was NOT referring to the slaves of generations past. Dude was referring to YOU! US! That WE are CHOOSING TO STAY ENSLAVED! "The Black Vote". Doing things for "the culture". "Saggin'" Alllll of it.. Wow, y'all STILL not realized what he was talking about yet? Years later? I have a feeling y'all are just frontin. Acting like you don't know but you really do.
People give such a narrow-minded and short-sighted response to Ye saying “Slavery was a choice”… I’ve always interpreted that statement as him saying that if we don’t unify, mobilize and strategize against our oppressors than we are accepting the oppression. I didn’t hear anything else BUT that.
That’s the issue that I have. It’s what you “interpreted”. Not what was actually said. If he said what you said then this wouldn’t even be a discussion.
@@marlandwren6493 If I said, “Damn, that glass of cold ice water looks GOOD!” I’m not actually saying that I’m thirsty but one can interpret that I’m thirsty.
Thank u!!!! It is impossible to enslaved a people who is willing to die for their freedom. They made a choice to live in slavery rather than die fighting.
@@hotboy757 Obviously its not a choice for them thats why they fight back. Slaves back then did not fight back. The day you go against the rules is when its not a choice anymore
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Nigga kind Of resemble Kanye
TMZ didn't want this brother to grow beyond their bubble .
That's a supposition
I think TMZ just wants TMZ to be the star and the not the employees.
@@ishmael802 100%
💯🤘🏾👑 I'm glad Van left and expanded his portfolio of work. I wish him well
Say It for what it really is, Harvey Levin don’t want anyone including Van Lathan to grow beyond their bubble….
Respect to van. He's a extremely talented individual. Van has a voice that's stronger than I think he even realizes
Just commenting because I like your user name! Dope!
Who cares what he thinks? The fact is most people didn’t even realize he was gone lmao y’all hate racist so much unless it’s a black one lol he argued with a man who is mentally Ill and y’all clapped like seals
“I can’t have my ancestors be the mascot for that” beautifully said
Well our ancestors were selling us to white Men . Sorry you been fooled. Black sold blacks to Europeans
Lmfao Ye didn't even say that. Bet yall weirdos didn't even get it.
400 years sound like a choice. They put it in the school books, and you didn't even think or question it.
Just like their white Jesus and Christopher Colombus "discovering" America. White people writing History and feed it to your children. The man is too ahead.
Exactly. That’s why to me fuck Kanye west forever
This brother is phenomenal! I don’t think Van realizes how powerful his voice is and how essential it will be in the future of Blacks progressing in this country. I’m glad he realized he was worth more than TMZ and found his own voice and space to create.
Y’all are 🐑. He went from working from one white man to another white man who is probably more racist. Bill Simmons literally gets paid for Van to speak. How is that powerful?
He's a certified clown
@@zargrza thank u
Please stop saying blacks lol
Dr. Racist here... lol
I love how Van responded to Kanye. You were honest and sincere. You backed up what you said , you explained it to him intelligently, without belittling him.
When Van said "My ancestors our sacred to me." 😭 Respect!
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@@QueenB_ZA I had to rewind that part just to hype myself along with ancestors 💯🤲🏾🐐
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@@lennell5883 you’re using white inventions like the Internet and the English language
Hearing Vlad recite What Van said to Kanye at TMZ just shows Van's intelligence and mental capacity. I would not have been able to string a response that on point and in such short amount time with the same effectiveness.
Wtf you talking about. Listen to Vlad recite what Kanye said. He literally said mentally.
As native to NZ I feel this brother spoke for all indigenous around the world. ✊ Thank you for speaking when majority of us can't.
This response is the best response I have ever heard. He touched on the past and present and the physical and mental and how it affects everyone differently. Genius!
If I could give a billion likes for this
I have nothing but respect for Van! He said what so many others should have said to Kanye’s face.
I believe some people did. Kanye don't listen to nobody unless they got a money making platform.
Kanye was right though… 400 years of slavery was a choice!!! Maybe you should go back and watch the full interview and listen to what Kanye actually sad!!!
@@mosthighlawson3872 I agree , it was maybe the choice of words and how it was delivered and I feel what he was saying..
@@ONETAKEBKLYN Fr Kanye has a tendency to use analogies and with the slavery choice thing I think he was tryna say that he thinks they had the wrong mindset and kinda chose to withstand the harsh consequences unfairly given to them because of the color of their skin and not everyone able to dig deep enough into what he said cuz everyone sees him as a crazy dude now and as a villain and like makin him look bad for speaking his truth regardless what people have to say Kanye’s gonna be Kanye
@@Shutup-hk7pb I agree with Kanye as in the mindset of now. I don't think anyone chose slavery all those years ago but people are still in mentality of being slaves when it just isn't true today. They play the victim is what I believe he meant today when everyone has the same opportunity as anyone else in America. Sure, there are individual racist of ever race but you can still do what you want and no one is being held as a slave against their will. We wouldn't have any black celebrities or rich, successful ones if that was the case but we do.
Even to this day I’m glad you put principles over a celebrity moment. You did right by not going
which he also regrets..
I agree he did do the right thing. He didn’t let Kanye control/spin the situation. It went the way it was suppose to.
Okay
I think he was saying it could’ve stimulated a larger conversation beyond just those two, that could’ve been beneficial to society, had he gone. But there’s no way Kanye and the Kardashians would’ve let that happen; it would’ve just been damage control for them.
That took stones.
Nothing but respect for Van. Love the truth, honesty and self reflection. And the missed opportunity will come back around, and it will be when you most need it and can most appreciate it.
He's a clown
To hell w/You and him
@@arizonaFIREent you white boys live kanye now huh, I wonder why 🤔
Slavery was taught to us in reverse our ancestors weren’t slaves. Slaves meant servant of your family or anyone else. We were called slaves when our Indian ancestors entered the corporation on their own rather than being with the tribe. They killed a lot of our warriors and chiefs and women and kids. We experienced a Holocaust fuck slavery we were done wrong on our own lands by black and white Europeans moors and other traitors!
@@luchalerae7687 right back at chu! Oh, and you really hurt my feelings with your words 🤣🤣🤣
Van will forever be remembered for the Kanye Rant Priceless Didn't bite his tongue let him know how he Truely felt The look on Ye face.
And Kanye was right at the end 🤷🏽♂️
Kanye wasn’t wrong though. In fact Kanye been proven right over and over again over the past couple years
@@breezonbrown4412 facts.. the only thing I disagree with Kanye is where he said it..
@@ItzKhalifa310 exactly
@@breezonbrown4412 I'm wit you on that don't get me wrong but that was some great tv nevertheless.
I respect Van for the way he explains what his response was and why he said it . Very intelligent man .
He's one of the reasons I'm here watching Vlad and someone I've studied prior to creating my own VLOG and Podcast.
I wish he would take on Candace Owens
That was so beautiful what he said and I’m paraphrasing can not let my ancestors be seen as a symbol of weakness when they are not image of strength. Most powerful thing I have heard someone say on any vladtv interview. I hope this brother has much success.
This guy is a lot more introspective and intelligent than I assumed just from seeing him on TMZ. I hope he gets his own vehicle from these and other interviews. He has some great points.
Don't hold your breath. Haven't seen his BETA ass on anything worthy since. I just feel bad for the future offsprings that come through these weak men. They ain't going to even have a fighting chance in America. They'll most likely make the choice to be victims.
@@lindy8077 lol the things you folks say . Just say that you hate when blk ppl talk about how bad slavery was , just say that punk. Who's being the beta now
@@lindy8077 Slavery was a choice, too, right? You sound like a white suprematist.
He has a popular podcast called Higher Learning. He's a smart, funny guy. Check it out.
He won an Oscar last year
Man i laugh so hard at kanye during that interview😂😂😂😂but respect to Van he was on kanye...nothing but respect homie..wish you the success
You a disgrace to the arm forces. You probably hid the whole time behind real soldiers.
Kayne was right
Kanye was right tho
I really respect the way Van Lathan stood strong on his words and convictions on checking Kanye. It took some integrity to refuse to go along to get along.
He didn’t check Kanye!!! Kanye stood on what he said… maybe you should go watch the whole interview… and 400 years of slavery was a choice!!!
You’re a go along get along type of person because , you don’t think for yourself and integrity comes from standing up for yourself vs going with the crowd. Your statement is that of sheep.
@@mosthighlawson3872 Instead of "was a choice", it should be said, "is a choice" since the slavery Kanye was talking about is the mental slavery that we are currently under and have been under since the ending of chattel slavery in 1865. The mere fact that he said 400 years explains this bc chattel slavery only lasted around 245 years (1619-1865). So Kanye wasn't saying that our ancestors 400 years ago chose to be slaves. Anyone regurgitating that lie is operating from a place of ignorance. He was saying us continuing to be slaves TODAY, is a choice.
It’s not hard to stand on a scripted statement
@@rationalsportsfanatic7416 I agree with you… it’s funny how he makes slave clothes and shoes and we buy it up… we can’t get rid of that mindset… he was saying we need to think free feel free and be free!!! It’s a choice to remain in this position…
At first i thought he didn’t understand what Kanye was saying; after hearing this I rock with him 100% u can’t dismiss our Ancestors and the pain they had to endure for us to reach this point of questioning their Morality
Naw…that just means U & Van still don’t understand what Kanye meant by what he said.
@@mearllee3511 I think what Kanye meant was similar to like manifestation and like the mindset people have on certain situations and that the slaves had the wrong mindset idk if that’s right but lmk
Well put by Van. He put Kanye in his place and articulated it so well there was literally no comeback possible
Not even by his shrew in crime Candice Owens
I respect him on such a high level. Thank you Van!!
Our Ancestors thank you, Van. To this day, he is the only one that confronted that clown" Ye" and put him in his place about this crap. You are the true dream realized! Much love brotha!
This guy is winning me over, that was well said
So without him you were lost
@@1990758 no i just always heard such a ridiculous hyperbole take from the likes of conartists like sharpton
@@gigglemaniarunninwild2207 The bottom line is this guy's telling us what we want to hear. No celebrity of any color. Is no athlete of any color or personality person can teach me anything about life.
The jewel here is, standing strong on what you say, doesn’t mean you turn your back on the conversation!
I don't know if Van will ever see this but this man is such an inspiration to always speak up for what you believe in. So much respect.
He did the right thing! You go Van
Glad he explained this. I always wondered what his full thoughts were.
He didn't explain it bruh. He gave his version which is incorrect.
Kanye meant "How could we stay slaves when it was more of us than the whites? We should of been killing them and slowly taking them over"
Think about the movies, it was only a slave master with all the slaves lined up. All they had to do was kill the master and any whites that showed up.
Put it like this, if a dude comes up with a gun and it's 10 of us, we could all rush him because he can't kill 10 of us at the same time (Proof, soldiers in the middle east that get captured by terriost because they run up and aren't scared of the gun)
The fact you couldn't understand Kanye without Van smearing him is amazing to me. Critical thinking has been lost.
Crypto a lot of people will miss what you just said, I agree with you
@@DaddyLogic Their bullets outnumbered us and never in the history of man has 100% of any huge group of people agreed on everything. Many Many, MANY revolts were snuffed out by ONE SNITCH. Kanye is an ...... (Not good noun)
@@DaddyLogic Kanye's lunatic rant made it seem as if our ancestors as a whole just accepted slavery. Ignoring that 300 warriors can get undercut and destroyed because of ONE coward. Anyone who thinks we "chose" to be in that situation is THE FARTHEST THING from a critical thinker. Look at the Nat Turner revolt, thwarted by a snitch...
@@DaddyLogic u need to do more research. In America enslaved Africans we're never the majority of the population. U talking about some shit u seen a movie lol. That ain't facts.
I'm willing to bet the same people who hated what Kanye said cheered when Killmonger said, "Just bury me in the ocean with my ancestors that jumped from the ships because they knew death was better than bondage."
Huh
Yawn 🥱
U just said something but they not gone pay attention cause they hate it 🥴💯
Niggas need to stop hanging on Kanye every word. AND STOP QUOTING THEM GODDAMN MARVEL MOVIES LIKE THEY GOSPEL. Corny AF
@Khalim Hannah please elaborate
Kanye's a dangerous dude because of the influence his words and actions have. Respect to Van for checking him on the spot.
Harriett Tubman said it was a choice! Our generation is so ignorant, just because you don't like the alternative, doesn't mean that you didn't have a choice!
Exactly.........👍🏾
Choice? We're still in it boo. Ha! He dogged Harriet out! F Kanye crazy arse!
Google what he said about Harriett Tubman
I’m glad you made that decision Van cause I definitely would’ve felt like you sold out if you took that picture the next day. I remember watching that clip and feeling like man, somebody stood up to this clown. I gained so much respect for you then and even now I have a new found respect for you my brother. Keep being a revolutionary and changing the world 1 step at a time. ✊🏾
But slavery was a choice tho….Kanye said nothin false with that statement.. fight or b held captive. What would u choose?
BuiltLegendzTV
Yea I would have hated to see Van break bread with Kanye after that moment. Kanye deserved to stew for a bit. He doesn't get to flex his celebrity and make things alright again. Ef that.
@@BwoodsGod27 If you fight, lose, and then become enslaved anyway, what then? The Africans were literally overpowered, physically and mentally. They were broken.
If you're looking at it like, "I could remain here, or I could hold my breathe until my brain stops working," and the person didn't choose to hold their breathe until they're life expired, I guess I see your point.
@@ChristopherX30 what then? You keep fighting. Either you die for a cause or live for someone else. Ye had a point. As a matter of fact slaves didnt become free bc they fought their enemy, they were let go. Their enemy found a better way to make a profit off of them and thats exactly what happen then and whats happening now. The only reason we focus more on white folks owning slaves over everybody else who was doing it at the time is bc white folks benefited the most from it. But this is where Ye was wrong, the slaves that were born into slavery were doomed from birth bc that was life to them. The 1st batch of slaves shouldve fought way b4 white folks got their hands on them bc what most ppl dont know is that those slaves were slaves in africa 1st. Thats how white folks got their hands on them bc they were for sell by other africans, who saw them as outsiders, criminals etc.
@@demontreten I keep hearing people say this and I keep asking, how do you know this? Where was this documented? What are your sources that say Africans sold each other into slavery? I’m not saying it didn’t happen I’m just trying to understand where this information came from. For whatever reason NO ONE can tell me
I watched that whole situation on TMZ and that was one off the most powerful moment I’ve ever seen on T.V. He’s brilliant with his words, thank you Van.❤️
Kanye wasn't challenging or criticizing our ancestors, by saying, "that sounds like a choice." He was challenging you and I to break free from the mental slavery that we are currently under.
Did you listen to the interview?
@@Lex-hm9xg Yes, I did. Why do you ask?
@@rationalsportsfanatic7416 because he acknowledged your comment in it; and explained his stance
@@Lex-hm9xg No he didn’t. He acknowledged that Kanye was referencing mental slavery as well as the physical aspect of it, but he still said that Kanye was attacking/challenging our ancestors with his comments, and that’s just not the case. He claims to be upset bc Kanye disrespected our ancestors, well if it’s revealed that Kanye wasn’t addressing our ancestors, but rather he was talking to us (telling us to break free from mental slavery) then there’s no reason for Van to be upset with him then, right?
@@Lex-hm9xg and just bc a person is talking about something, doesn’t mean they’re addressing it. They could be talking around it. They could be lying about it. They could be talking on it from an ignorant perspective. Or they could just be saying a bunch of nothing that just sounds good/smart/articulate.
The way he chose his words to respond to Kanye were PERFECT!!
I can appreciate how well spoken as well as articulate Van is, by far 1 of the best things TMZ lost letting him go or him going to leave anyway, or whatever the case is.
Dope I’m glad he challenged Kanye in that moment, he’s absolutely right. Some of these celebrities sometimes feel they can say or doing anything because of their talent people just going to go along with it. Well not this brother
Did you watch the whole interview??? 400 years of slavery was a choice!!! Kanye also sad you should be able to say what you feel rather it’s viewed as positive or negative… but to think free feel free and be free!!! We still in slavery!!!
Kanye is a fool that thrives in these weirdo times. He needs to be checked.
@@mosthighlawson3872 what slave has a thousand dollar phone and can watch & comment on these videos without getting whipped or hanged. So your no slave, and I damn sure ain’t. So cut it out. Comparing yourself or as you said all of us as slaves is completely disrespectful to real slaves
Kanye want to talk about “slavery was a choice” well those Asians who makes his Yeezy sneakers don’t have much of a choice at higher wages now do they. Why don’t he demand Adidas Gap and all the other fashion brands he works with or wear to pay those factory workers more so they don’t have to live like slaves. But that would affect profit margins and he probably would have never made it to Billionaire status 🤔think about it
@@CryptoDun he said media controls people and is a big problem… young dolph has an album called RICH SLAVE!!! It’s a mindset…
"You can't have them be your example of weakness bc their my example of strength..." 🙌🏾
I was happy and proud u said what u said to him big salute brotha
This man is brilliant. I love listening to him talk.
The part we’ve all been waiting for 🍿
Respect to Van for calling out Kanye on the b.s he says
Van was larger than TMZ and they knew it. His on the spot response to Kayne was well said.
That Van moment was so brilliant he sounded like he was practicing that speech for about a week.
Kanye was speaking about mental slavery. Which van is a liberal who clearly is still mentally enslaved. Always crying about something
Yeah, i know. That was a poor choice of words. But Van's rebuttal was iconic
Van said it perfectly
When he said that to Kanye I applauded this man
If more people would put Ye in his place he wouldn't be the maniac he is today SMH
Facts Van!!! Learn your history our people come from a brilliant, strong tribe and we should always be proud of them and honor them always🙏🏽
What did harrit say? Kayne was right
"I freed hundreds I could have freed thousands, if only they knew they were slaves" - Harriet Tubman. Basically the same thing Kanye said. He was correct. The Haitians made a choice to NOT be slaves at all cost.
And look at them now.
Free will God gave it to us , not man
@@ibervillezee9142 Haiti is in a bad place but it's not because they freed themselves from slavery
@@ibervillezee9142 that's not the point. They couldn't predict what the future would hold. France made Haiti suffer for their choice and the world watched. There is so much evil being allowed to happen in this world.
You also forgot to mention that Haitian slaves vastly outnumbered their slave owners on a small colonial Island. While the slaves in the US were out numbered in a country vastly bigger than Haiti.
You seem to be doing the same thing Kanye did. Speaking on history without, purposefully or not, putting the historical situations you refer to in proper context.
Van is the truth.....much love ❤
Ye said "400 years of slavery SOUNDS like a choice." When certain black ppl hear the word slavery everything else goes out the window. Van even just acknowledged he understood what Kanye was tryna say, but he acted like he didn't at TMZ in front of the white man and the camera.
So they mis judge kanye comment ?
VAN been sold out and got his card revoked
Yeah even I understood what Kanye meant, but on a national platform such as TMZ, that would have caused even more hellfire if Kanye wasn't checked for that. Of course, they get Van to do it because other races of people in that room may not go against that statement. I'm sure there were many, many slaves that chose to be on the plantation than to rather run away back then; but 400 years though? Bruh.
@@bradlee5874 many didn't even leave after they were freed. They had to be paid and they couldn't be held against their will, but they stayed working for the same masters.
Saying slavery was a choice is like saying any other genocide in history was a choice. He was so disrespectful for that no matter how he meant it. Like van said don’t try to make them an example of mental weakness. Kanye be having breakdowns over bandaid colors
It was a choice hence some slave masters weren’t successful at bringing would be slaves to America
The fact y’all still riding with Kanye after he said what he said proves how slavery was in place for so long. A real life Stephen.
The fact you’re still living in America after all that’s been proves how much of a slave you are in today’s day and time
@@joeblack2809 bruh wtf are you talking about now🥴 lol
@@andresc1143 if this OP is shaming folks for “still rocking with Kanye” after he said intangible things that ultimately effects no one’s lives, then what is your excuse for still “rocking with America” which tangibly effects the community every day with its laws, corrupt politics, police, etc.
@@andresc1143 👆🏾 👆🏾 👆🏾
My comment must’ve clearly flown straight over your head cuz this man explained what I said fucking flawlessly.
@OrbitingDoom I’m not acting bad I’m just proving a point thanks for showing that you missed the point too.
“If you don’t remember what you said ima just read what you said ” this dude vlad man😂😂
VAN,,,, WE LOVE YOU ,,, AND WE ARE HERE FOR YOU 💯💯💯 ,,,,LET THEM KNOW THAT YOU CAN SAY WHAT EVER YOU WANT AND WE SALUTE TO YOU SIR ,,,FOR STANDING UP FOR US PERIOD SO KEEP ON PREACHING GENERAL THE REAL........ FROM DETROIT SIR VAN WE SALUTE TO YOU.....❤️🖤❤️🖤❤️🖤
People still choose to ignore what Kanye said even after Vlad was reading his exact words. Ye said "That sounds like a choice." What he said was how come we didn't fight then for our freedom if it was more of us vs one slave owner. Ye stands on the freedom of our people. Please wake up and see the deep meaning of what he was trying to say. The intentions means more than the wording. He's passionate about our people and freedom for all races as well. But, it's 2021 now and he's growing as a person. Love you all! Ye loves you as well. Peace and keep God with you 24/7!
I hear ya, but some stuff you should just leave alone honestly. That statement definitely could have been omitted. If you want to talk about modern times, cool, but we can’t be diggin up shit like slavery and assume shit when none of us who inhabit this technological world we live in now we’re never there. Tf
@@emptytablegaming i feel u and ur right. we have evolved. thats like us criticizing cave men for staying cold when they got fire wood. i just wish people would see a person's true intentions.
Only 10 percent of whites owned slaves
@@ashenone3427 some intentions just cause for universal understanding and being clear and concise. If it’s hard to understand or correlate, the message will never be heard. Ye just has/had to understand that
@@nastystew6942 *in my Big Worm voice “what the “fonk” that got to do with anything
Slavery was a choice. There were a few hundreds of whites that got off that ship when it docked in Africa, confronting a few thousand sub-Saharan Africans. We as blacks had every opportunity bumrush the slave handlers for 400 hundred years, a few times we did start an uprising and failed but at least we tried.
Bumrush the slave handlers with guns?you see yo Top warrior get smoke in front you thats gon slow you down make u 💡Special when u have no guns to fight with
@@blacgod4550 They had muskets that take 60 minutes to reload gun powder after every shot. Blacks had the chance to either bumrush them or chuck spears at them. Shaka Zulu would die trying.
@@Beckonor you just missed the point
Van is so well spoken 💪🏾💪🏾
Much love from Baton Rouge . I fuck with Van, dude always speaking facts in the most articulate way possible. You can tell he really put thought into all his plays. 💯
Van gives in depth responses and reads history but folks who thought Kanye really said something only like sound bites and tweets and don’t like to read books
I swear y’all still acting like he wasn’t talking about mental shackles of today…prolly cause y’all living it.
They love the narrative and the struggle
Of course people are living in it. The point is it's not a choice and what you said is stupid
Big up Van for this empowered words about our ancestors.🙌🏿 Love and light ✨
How Ye still gets a pass from black people is beyond me . If a Jewish guy was to say Holocaust was a choice, his own community will cancel him
Cause of the music and shoes sad to say
Exactly . I’m not a fan of him at all because he says crazy things and really believed it . To me the media beefs him up and to me he is not anymore intelligent than us but a brilliant business man . That’s the facts . Van told the truth .
The Holocaust only lasted like 7 years and it was also the entire German military with a shit ton of machine guns vs a minority population that were taken from their homes with nothing lmao. Kanye makes a good point but no one has an open enough mind to just think about it and not get angry
Rember the original jews were black not white
@@bushwxcker540 Kanye is generally a shit person ... Example : Slavery was a choice ,. I don't care how many big words or turns and turns you can have to clarify this one ,it was purely idiotic
Very great response both in the moment and after the fact via the interview. Kanye was wildin and its obvious that no one has ever really checked him in such a manner before. I'm glad that Lathan never validated Kanye and his opinions by going to his house to converse with him on the subject
It was awesome when he checked Kanye on that. Most folks would bow down to a celebrity the status of Kanye.
At the time I tried to follow Kanyes train of thought but soon I had doubts as well and i remember when he asked the room their opinion, I was thinking, "if no one says anything then I'm going to be worried." It's hard to say so easily that slavery was a choice because instinctively we are hard wired to survive and will navigate our environment to do that. Except for those enslaved, those environments were extremely limited. Our capacity to think was limited and most of our knowledge came from the experiences of those that came before you.
That's the problem. You left one slave master just to be programmed by another (Kanye Train) you must be a weak person to "Follow a train". Do you like trains? It sounds like you like trains. Bend over train boi 😂😂😂😂
nah theres nations that fought out of worse slavery. usa slavery was for the most part cool
Slavery was definitely a choice if you think Ye was crazy, it’s shows how “Misinformed” we as African Americans are with our history. To honestly say with all your feelings and emotions behind saying “slavery wasn’t a choice is just as crazy as calling Kanye crazy.” Our African ancestors that came off the boat FOUGHT their way out of slavery for US TO BE HERE. Honestly Ye needs an apologies from all the miseducated African Americans but they obviously never paid attention to
-3 Fingered Jack - Leader of Jamaican Maroons of the freed Blackmen of 18th century
-Nat Turner - if you seen birth of a nation i shouldn’t have to say anything about Nat Turner
-Boukman - educated the slaves on the plantation while leading the Haitian Revolution
There’s plenty of more but the point is that OUR AFRICAN ANCESTORS FOUGHT our way out. The colonizer didn’t just wake up one day and had a change of heart. Africans would die at the stake if they didn’t comply which feared the majority to be decile during the slave trade, they knew the consequences of their actions, which was death so “THEY CHOSE” to be in captivity for survival. Most of us African Americans were MISEDUCATED on that because it always looked like we had no willpower since our history books starts the African at slavery. These slave rebellions were Africans PILLAGING white folks for our freedom, WE CHOSE FREEDOM.
@@HitmanAvery Goat Post
@@HitmanAvery I get what you mean. But when someone says that slavery was a choice, it feels as though they are saying that we just all decided to get on the boat willingly, without putting up any opposition, and allowed for slavery to exist; When in reality, the bodies of slaves were under complete physical, mental, and psychological control. There are doctrines that you can actually view online that explains the process of brainwashing slaves to keep control which when you read it, sounds similar to instructions on how to control large herds of cattle. The only difference is that psychological control was the main mechanism that was used to limit our ability to see outside the lines of slavery. Of course there were revolts and this was a choice; but being taken from your family and forced into work with no pay or guarantee of a solidified future was not a choice. It was necessary for survival. For 400 years we were culturally destroyed and the lingering damage of that cultural destruction still exists today. They even went as far as to put other blacks in specific rankings where the high ranking blacks would then control other blacks which caused division and hatred towards one another. For 400 years, the psychological, physical, and mental control was fine tuned similar to how a programmer fine tunes a software program. To say this was a choice, for me at least, quickly bypasses the cruel reality which these slaves endured and perpetuates the idea that these psychological limitations did not exist which is not true. I'd ask you to read about a man named William lynch, a man who mastered the ability to control the perception and attitudes of his slaves by creating division and hatred towards
owns self and others. A lot of Williams philosophies are still used today in corporate America to keep their employees happy while at the same time maximizing productivity.
LOVE VAN, THAT WAS A GREAT INTERVIEW.
“Most known for his argument with Kanye” lol that’s disrespectful to his career
I'm so proud of VAN he explain Da whole situation!! About slavery!!🎯🎯♥️. I love me some Van!! Watch him everyday on TMZ!!♥️🎯
Even though I always and will despise TMZ, this man is a solide dude, respect.
The Fact that there were “Revolts” just shows the slavery Being a choice is not FALSE. It’s all about how you speak and when you speak.
I love you Van. I haven't watched TMz since you left.
Seeing two strong strong minded black men expresses how they feel to each other without it being super intense or any violent acts happening is amazing to see.
I love this dude. There’s an introspection, eloquence, and insight that are not found in the vast majority of Vlad’s other interview subjects (i.e. Boosie 😒). Van should become one of your regular guests, Vlad. Might not generate as many clicks as those other morons, but it’ll instill some much needed integrity into your channel.
Man go read a book
These comments have to be fake😭
Fake? Please explain…
@@nicblank09 p
he is such a great orator. its almost like blaming the slaves for being slaves.
Exactly Van broke it down , and yet people still say he didn’t get what Kanye was coming from. I get what Kanye was saying but he also insinuated that slaves chose to stay in their position without questioning their mental strength about whether or not they should run away to freedom or stay so they could sneak out and visit their family members at the next plantation.
Honestly what Kanye said a lot of people aren’t ready to have the convo about. He simply wanted to attack oppression a different way. He was offering advice on how we could go about things differently and instead of hearing him out Van just hung on a few words and tried to make Kanye look stupid. There really is no winning in this argument Ice Cube wanted to have a talk with Trump on how to help the black community and people tried to attack cube. Would advise people to listen to Dr. Boyce and other black prominent voices and not CNN all the time.
None of what you notated addressed Kanye's shitbrain take about slavery having been a choice.
Yes, what Kanye said was groundbreaking.
There certainly weren't people who thought an uprising would be enough for a takeover (sarcasm).
Real life isn't as simple as suddenly banding together, that's not how people work.
Similar to how we end up with only two choices in elections, when third party candidates exist.
Playing with the semantics of "choice" dances around framing slaves as being content.
@@BLOCKchainGANGgang exactly. Instead of acknowledging the shit he said... at the time he said and in the context he said was categorically stupid and garage cats want to pretend it was deeper than what it was. Kanye might be a musical genius(emphasis on "might") but being so doesn't mean he isn't fucking dumb somewhere else. But what's more important is actions cause let's be real this isn't his 1st take on slavery. People forget he went on a rant about "new slaves" during yeezus and when sway suggests he had other choices then he scream on how? sway how? on him. He also talk about artist needing to own their masters and than proceed to NOT give big sean his. Sometimes dude ain't being deep.. he's marketing.
Real shit bruh. They twisted Kanye words cuz they knew he was opening eyes to the sheep. Why not die fighting... everybody not just a few. If all of us fought back they would've learned not to belittle us. Even indians, natives and Mexicans fight back
@@BLOCKchainGANGgang Youre too blind to see the truth. Just keep following what the news and tmz tell u to do
🤣 Van happy as hell Vlad finally stopped asking about Boosie
I love this brother forever for taking a stand and lovingly stating what the collective was thinking. He needs to run for political office, he has the knowledge and temperament needed to be an effective leader.
Bruhhh 🤦🏽♂️ everything except for “run for office”…. That whole ass mentality how Trump got elected … these celebrities and television personalities SHOULD NOT be politicians and/or run for president just because they’re somewhat smart and well spoken…. Huge L’s for everyone who liked your comment 🤦🏽♂️
Nah .....it's impossible to remain pure when you reach that level of influence
You are easily pleased. Best of luck to you.
This comment is proof that black people like anything and anyone that makes us feel good. All you gotta do is say something black people want to hear and we’ll elect you into the White House lol.
@@swanm3ta850 fr the nigga even said in the video that he agreed with what kanye was saying but had a problem with it cuz ye was using his ancestors as an example
This right here is GOLD!!!
It's ironic, the fact Van was worried about what others thought post-interview is just that example of mental slavery.
It’s an old negro spiritual named “o freedom”. It has lyrics in it that says “before I be a slave, I’ll be buried in my grave”.
That boy preaching 🙏🏾
Kanye was right. Think about it. We still slaves today. We work hard and own nothing. We’re behind everything. We have to work twice as hard and still get less. We gotta fee crumbs but as a whole we own 1/2 of 1% of the wealth in this country.
We're not slaves today. He CAN own something if we decide to work towards it. The difference is that we have the freedom to choose our destiny now. That is something that our ancestors couldn't do.
@@ChristopherX30 So why isn’t it done yet? Actually slavery still exist today! Read the 13th Amendment!
@@ChristopherX30 they had the choice to die fighting....didnt America's forefather said give me liberty or give me death? So we acting like die fighting wasnt a choice? MLK and malcolm knew they were gonna be killed but they chose to be killed rather than see black ppl being treated the way we're were being treated. Now what would have happen if they chose to live???? The same problem we had back in slavery is the same problem we have now...only a very few black people are ready to pay the ultimate price for equality. You notice how hard it is for the West to gain total domination over the Middle East? Cause many of those people are prepared to die before surrendering to anyone.
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Does that only apply to black people or?
And Kanye says “400 years”. He doesn’t mean when they brought them over in boats it was a choice. He means 400 years from then and he still sees his bro and sis with that slave mindset. Was his point.
“You can’t have them as your example of weakness cuz to me their my example of strength” real shit...id assume egotistical ye would say “that means im stronger then you 😂😂
Now Van is contradicting himself by saying he understands what Kanye was trying to say but says Kanye viewed slaves as weak when Kanye was talking about acknowledging weakness in order to start to become strong.
That’s is literally his whole point. By your own words Kanye was “acknowledging” the “weakness” of slaves by saying it was a choice. Yeah, a choice between working as slaves or a gruesome slow death for you/your family. That’s like calling someone a bitch for getting robbed at gunpoint while unarmed, the kind of thing you only would say if you’ve never been in that kind of situation.
I don’t think that Kanye intended to disrespect black people, but he did regardless of his intention. You can’t just cop out and say “that’s not what I meant” you are responsible for the way you speak, not just what you say
Well put! To me what he says epitomizes strength and greatness...something that most average people can't grasp because of mental bondage.
It’s time to have that meet-up Van!!! Now more than ever!!
Live in slavery.......Or.......Die fighting to be free
Make a choice
I am not American but Black European with African roots and I fucking love Van and am so proud of him!! 🖤🤎✊🏾
Plus his mind and his heart is just sooooo attractive to me. Van is just so hot to me,he is my type 😍.
No bro, Kanye was trying to say they went through that shit when they physically didn’t have to!
Hey it's Van!! Im a huge fan of the midnight boys podcast. Big ups man
Dang, man..smh Kanye was NOT referring to the slaves of generations past. Dude was referring to YOU! US! That WE are CHOOSING TO STAY ENSLAVED! "The Black Vote". Doing things for "the culture". "Saggin'" Alllll of it.. Wow, y'all STILL not realized what he was talking about yet? Years later? I have a feeling y'all are just frontin. Acting like you don't know but you really do.
Thank you Van
People give such a narrow-minded and short-sighted response to Ye saying “Slavery was a choice”…
I’ve always interpreted that statement as him saying that if we don’t unify, mobilize and strategize against our oppressors than we are accepting the oppression. I didn’t hear anything else BUT that.
When a lot of black ppl hear the word slavery, their emotions get in front of truth. Everything Ye said in that TMZ interview was facts.
That’s the issue that I have. It’s what you “interpreted”. Not what was actually said. If he said what you said then this wouldn’t even be a discussion.
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If I said, “Damn, that glass of cold ice water looks GOOD!”
I’m not actually saying that I’m thirsty but one can interpret that I’m thirsty.
exactly
That moment where he challenged Kanye was everything.. I am also glad Van left TMZ dude is totally better than that network.
Does the guy look like daylight without the tattoos☝🤣🤣🤣
Kanye know what he is talking about. Most people just react emotionally. Kanye talking facts
Damn his explanation was almost as dope as the statement itself lol 🔥
I never knew that much about Van but after this interview I got the up most respect for this guy
He didn’t say “Slavery was a choice” he said “400 years of slavery was a choice”. Completely different statement.
I’m genuinely curious on why you think that is a different statement
Thank u!!!! It is impossible to enslaved a people who is willing to die for their freedom. They made a choice to live in slavery rather than die fighting.
Oh please!!!
Let's see, talk to a person from Palestine. Is that a choice?
@@hotboy757 Obviously its not a choice for them thats why they fight back. Slaves back then did not fight back. The day you go against the rules is when its not a choice anymore