Matthew Poes Drops KNOWLEDGE during his Home Theater Tour! This video is sponsored by Valencia - bit.ly/valencia_all Contact Matthew Poes - bit.ly/Poes_Acoustics Matthew Poes Home Theater: Valencia Naples Elegance - bit.ly/Valencia_Naples Trinnov Altitude 16 - Perlisten S7i LCRs - bit.ly/Perlisten_S7i Perlisten S4i surrounds - bit.ly/Perlisten_S4i RBH in ceiling atmos speakers (2) RBH 1212 in wall subwoofers Seymour Screen Excellence 114” 1.78:1 ratio Neo enlightener fabric Purifi amplifiers for front channels Outlaw amplifier surrounds Artnovion and Poes Acoustics room treatments Hushframe sound isolation decouplers in the walls, floor, and ceiling JVC DLA-RS540u projector Lumagen video processor Since filming this video Matthew has made these updates: (4) RTJ 18’s for front subs Lyngdorf Purifi 8-channel amplifier going in Installed Waveforming beta for Trinnov Later he will be upgrading to a Christie projector Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 01:31 - Sound Isolation 06:18 - Room Dimensions 07:10 - Perlisten speakers 19:45 - Rear Subwoofers 25:42 - Screen and Projector 36:05 - Valencia Naples Theater Seating 45:30 - Acoustic Treatement 57:14 - Equipment Rack --------- Join Us for MWAVE 2024 (June 21-23, 2024) - midwestavexperience.com/ MWAVE 2023 Videos - midwestavexperience.com/mwave-2023-videos/ ____ Disclosure: Affiliate Links are used in the description of this video. I earn from qualifying purchases. Valencia Bespoke Series Theater Seats: Monza Carbon Fiber (NEW) - bit.ly/Valencia_Monza Tuscany Ultimate Luxury - bit.ly/valencia-tuscany-ultimate-luxury Oslo Ultimate Luxury - bit.ly/valencia-oslo-ultimate-luxury Naples - bit.ly/Valencia_Naples Valencia Cinema Series Theater Seats: Venice - bit.ly/valencia_venice Budapest - bit.ly/valencia_budapest Piacenza - bit.ly/valencia_piacenza Piacenza Powered Headrest - bit.ly/valencia_piacenza_powered_headrest Verona - bit.ly/valencia_verona Verona - Powered Headrest - bit.ly/valencia_verona Valencia Premier Series Theater Seats: Oslo - bit.ly/valenciaoslo Oslo XL - bit.ly/valenciaosloxl Zurich - bit.ly/valenciazurich Tuscany - bit.ly/valencia_tuscany Bern - bit.ly/valencia_bern All Valencia Seating - bit.ly/valencia_all
All of the best principles of design and science are in a digestible format in one video. Brilliant. Great interview Michael. Ironically i still haven’t heard Matt's system yet and he lives 90min from me. 😅
@@PoesAcoustics When 2 friends have really awesome theaters. The rooms cancel each other because neither friend can get out of their room to see each other! 😂😂😂
@@danzilla31stompinontokyo36 Hah well...I've been to Gene's theater a dozen times at this point. He just only shows up at my theater when I've left the country. We will sort it out. He needs to hear it.
You can tell this is a well thought through theatre. Great content and a wealth of information to take in. The artwork, i see a cassette tape! Very fitting.
@@PoesAcoustics you’re welcome. I’m a civil engineer so I find your intellect and manor of presenting the material appealing and entertaining. So thank you.
This tour was so well done. I would watch a show on tv with both of you going in to home theaters, you interviewing the owner and matt gives them ideas to improve it over how it currently is. You guys had good back-and-forth... It helps that you both create content in the hobby.
Matthew is amazing!! Takes a complicated subject and breaks it down without talking down to the audience!! Between you two, this was extremely enjoyable and educational!! Loved it!! Top three of RUclips HT videos, IMO! Great job guys!!
Matthew is not only a smart guy, he is also highly principled. I inquired if he could acoustically treat my sex dungeon, but he refused, no matter how much I offered him. Good on you, Matthew, for not bending your moral compass for a quick buck! Matthew has gone down enough dark roads to know the cost to one's soul is not worth the fleeting pleasures of the flesh!
I'm only 5 minutes in and this is already my favorite home theater tour I've seen on RUclips! Matt is so knowledgeable and professional, that it makes me wish I could afford to hire him to do the acoustic treatment in my room.
Such a minimalist design with very cool design features . I didn't think I would like the black seating with the white piping but the piping makes the seat almost disappear and gives a floating appearance to the seating. Obviously the acoustic design of the room means it as close to perfect as possible. Poes is a legend in the industry. Very cool that he invited Youthman into his home and gave such a detailed explanation about the room.
Young Matthew @PoesAcoustics has a fantastic room. I had a visit today and he's got everything dialled in nice and tight. Clear midrange, giving excellent vocals, clear surround panning and great bass with loads of headroom thanks to his recently acquired RTJ subs.
I had no clue this video existed! I've always wanted to see his whole theater! I'd love to see more pictures of the walls before the speakers and subs were added as well as all the wiring and how he setup the Trinnov. The way this and some other Home Theater Tour videos are done, there's not enough visual technical info for me; it's a lot of talking, but it's hard to grasp all the info just hearing about it.
Great room I have a open concept Living room 14 widhet length 24 9.5 height. Wife wants a inwall less speakers on the floor. My wall for the inwalls is in front of the master bedroom. We can hear bass, But my question is will the base be more, less or the same with the S4i or S5i for mt LCR? I read that the Perlisten Inwalls that backbox limits the sound from bleeding into the other room
34:47 glad you guys brought this up I've always disagreed with THX's 36 degree viewing angle, its way to small especially if your playing a game you can't hardly see anything at that viewing angle, best example of this is when I use to PC game on a monitor I'd literally get my nose up against the monitor to see players far off in the distance i was trying to shoot.
@@jeffjefferson7384because it looks cool. I could make up some nonsense acoustically. It increases absorption. It reflects sound back to the front wall. But none of that is why. I was just mimicking the look of the cantered walls popular these days.
Wow, Matthew, this was an incredible home theater tour! It's clear that you put a lot of thought and passion into designing this space, and it truly shows. I especially loved learning about the "why" behind your decisions, like the alternating absorption diffusion absorption panels and the hardwood floors. It's not often you see someone explain the reasoning behind their choices in such a clear and engaging way. I'm also impressed by how you were able to incorporate so many high-end elements while still making the space feel warm and inviting. The artwork, the seating, and even the lighting all come together to create a truly immersive experience. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and passion with us, Matthew. This video has definitely inspired me to think more carefully about the design of my own home theater.
Man did we forget to talk about my door? Thanks it is a nice door. I constantly think about upgrading it. But it really is a nice door and I should be happy with it.
@@AugmentingLight yeah it’s the IsoDoor HD LF. For the price and availability it’s a very good option. But it’s still an ~STC45 door. That means you can hear a little bit of the content outside the room.
For 16:9 on my 97" OLED, I'm about a 50 degrees FOV. 60 degrees kept hurting my neck because my TV is 30" off the ground. At 20", it'd be better, but worse when I recline. And then my kids would mess with it.
Thank you Michael and Matthew! What a beautiful custom, Home theater! It is nice to have the reassurance that a smaller home theater can still be excellent. Because of the structure of my house I was only able to make my room 11 feet wide by 19 1/2 feet deep and I have 7 foot ceilings. But I absolutely love it! Thank you again for the extensive knowledge and education.
Youthman this was an incredible video! Amazing job and Mathew just a beautiful room. I love the fact that you went for such a unique and beautiful aesthetic for your room rather then a more conventional looking theater room!
This was awesome Michael, thanks for doing it. I’ve actually purchased things through Matt and he was great. Gave me great explanations of all my options.
I have alternative absorption and diffusion too, I watched an experts video on the topic and they claimed if you're not an expert with all the measuring tools and knowledge then do alternative.
Thanks for always dropping the knowledge but now you’ve gotten me in trouble as my wife saw this video and wants those exact floors. Can you tell where I could purchase them? #Doghousedad
Awesome video!!! I agree with EVERYTHING he said except.... About not wanting the seats to be too comfortable. Come on Mr Poe I'm the exact opposite, I want my seats to be so comfortable I fall asleep every time I'm in there 😂 In fact my wife and I put our bed in the theater room because we practically live in there. If acoustics are done properly it's by far the most comfortable room to hang out in in the entire house. My wife loves going in there to just read books and take a nap. My teenage daughter literally takes her laundry in there to fold because she likes being there so much. Other than that, LOVE your room
Pretty nice space, many want big cinema rooms but somehow I prefer the moderate sizes, more cozy and feels more like home. My problem with this room are the glossy armrests and bright colored artwork, would be distracting for me. Oh and that projector needs a hushbox since Matt values low noise floor. OK but other than these it's a nice place, well done Matt :) and good job presenting this room Michael
Well I mean, I want a hush box too! I'll get it done at some point. Just a cost issue. As for the glossy armrests and artwork, once the lights are down and movie is on, you don't really notice either. Certainly no reflections back onto the screen.
This was an excellent way to showcase how each of us is so different, yet our common interests can bring us together. You and Matt are very different yet you've found a way to let the whole be greater than the sum of the parts so to speak. I really like that you have different approaches to seating and its educational for everyone. As an aside, months ago I was going through some rough times and you said that things would turn around for me. Well, you were right. Things are improving greatly. Thank you. Merry Christmas!
I don't hang out with people just like me, I don't even know anyone else like me. I have to hang out with people who are very different from me or it would be a very lonely existance. None the less, I think Michael enjoyed his experience with my theater, and I am sure I would enjoy his if I ever heard it.
No I wouldn’t do that. The performance is far Inferior. In a dedicated theater room like mine there is no reason to use a UST. Those are problem solver products for media rooms that can’t justify a proper standard throw projector. But the UST design has real performance short comings, including significant lens distortion and fairly poor black floor.
I don't have any buttkickers and never had it b4 will I need a mini dsp or it's plug and play via splitter from my avr to the buttkicker amp then from the buttkicker amp to these buttkickers? Btw I found out how to buy the crowsens finally.
Hovereze covers everything below 20hz. Infrasonic bass is just silly unless you are doing very nearfield subs. Use ported subs because you can run them down to the tuning frequency and then Hovereze for the rest. Use the right tool for the job
What’s your describing is the right tool for your preference. Not the right tool for the job. There isn’t a one size fits all. I for one have yet to enjoy Hovereze. Every system has taken me out of the experience, rather than immerse me into it. I prefer ported on 15” or smaller due to the additional output, but prefer sealed once you get to 18 and larger. Infrasonics from my JTR Captivator RS2’s always put a huge grin on my guests.
Great Stuff! I like the flaws in the rack. Not everything has to be perfect to produce results. The hard floors was a surprise. I didnt catch whether a carpeted floor would be a lesser choice acoustically or if it was omitted simply because he could.
It’s arguably a lesser floor acoustically. Let’s say your room needs 300 sq ft of absorption units to hit your target RT60. My floor would be all of that. Leaving nothing for the walls and forcing me to accept a much lower RT60. Further my decay time wouldn’t be as flat or smooth because a carpet is only about a 1” absorber. So its absorption is falling off by 1khz. That doesn’t mean carpet is never desirable in any way. But it creates acoustic challenges. If a room isn’t being acoustically optimized like mine, carpet is a cheap way to get a lower RT60. But if you plan to really optimize it, no carpet opens up a lot more options.
KNOWLEGE BOMB! :) Hope you do more shows with him PS. im sitting at 9.5ft from my 120" wide 2:35:1 screen. Currently using on walls below my screen and to the sides. Is it worth it for me to create a 1ft baffle wall and loose that distance, and put some onwall 8" deep speakers behind an acoustically transparent screen?
I would argue yes. I've never found speakers next to and below the screen to offer the same level of believability. The best sound I've achieved has consistently been with the speakers behind the screen.
Awesome! Any links on that info about the newer studies that suggest the 60-65 viewing angle is more ideal? I think that’s great, because the old THX Standard seemed too small.
@PoesAcoustics I noticed you had speakers that had dynamics and output way more then what you needed for the room. I too love having speakers that have more headroom then my room requires and from what I understand theurs more to this then just they can go loud. Do you mind just elaborating on why you chose to go with speakers that have more headroom then you needed. I wiuld love to hear your thoughts on this
Curious what you'd say is the limit for width of a room to do front wides? I'd assume it would need to be inwall or ceilings? I think Gene's front wides are ceilings, which seems odd to me. I have a bit of an odd shaped room where I lose over a foot on a wall halfway down the length of the room. So I was only looking for a 16.9 screen between 92 and 120 diagonal I think. I have length to spare for baffle walls, just really narrow half of room. I believe it's goes from 11' to 12'3". There a wide closet on that short wall to. Room is 23' something deep with 8' ceilings. Oh, curious I saw no windows in the theater? Isn't 1 egress window required by law or something? I have 3 windows and would love to get ride of them all.
Dedicated private home cinema's never have windows so...no they are not required. My house was fully inspected during construction, as you might expect, and not only do I not have windows in the theater, none of the upstairs windows even open. I had wondered about that too and I was told by the inspector who did one of the inspections that Florida doesn't require operable windows in the upstairs, and that in his opinion, they wouldn't be of much good. You would die trying to escape from them, and if the Fire Department needed to come in that way, they could always break a window (but that would be a challenge as they are hurricane impacted rated to the highest level). Bedrooms have to have windows that open, if your theater is legally considered a bedroom, you likely can't get rid of them. Nothing in my upstairs is considered a bedroom. It's an office and theater. What we do in bedroom converted theaters is build a "plug" for the window that allows it to be fully covered. You might consider that.
I also loved the explanation for the in-walls. How is there not still a large dip in FR around the crossover points in the vertical dispersion due to the listeners being so far off-axis? I heard his excellent explanation but is everyone's head really in the sweet spot of the surrounds? My brain wants speakers aimed at them! haha! I'm sure they're fantastic. Perlisten makes incredible stuff.
There is no dip in the horizontal off axis at the crossover points. Like at any angle. The listening sweet spot for this speaker is around 60 degrees and even past that it’s simply lower in level. It’s not a bad rough response. There would be a dip in the vertical but you would need to be sitting near the wall on the floor. Aiming speakers is overblown in this regard.
Glad he likes his space. However 3 rows wide with center acoustic nulls is a no go for me. Also back wall seating will always be boomy and low fidelity, and bright distracting colored side panels are a distraction during viewing, not to mention color splash and contrast hit to the projected image. I'd offer to re do this theater space for next to nothing , with improvements across the board!
I`ve said it before, but there should be a (soft) headrest like it is on premium cars. it would give us the best of two worlds. 😊 I liked this guys approach to acoustics. Seems like he has a scientific approach. At least based on your voices, it seems like this room has great acoustics, not to dry (way too many cinemas) or wet.
Very interesting discussion. Good interview. I can apply a lot of this despite the fact that I'm much more constrained with space and budget. I'd love to hear Matthew's advice to someone who wants to get a substantial education in acoustics without committing to a college degree in the subject. Does he have a reading list and resource list for the person wanting to expand their knowledge of the field? Thanks.
Great tour, Michael, of a fantastic home theater. Matt is super knowledgeable, I’ve watched many of his videos on his channel and with Audioholics. One thing I’m curious about is his MLP-to-screen distance.
It’s around 10’ or so. The viewing angle around 51 degrees. But I admit I move the chairs to try different viewing angles. I’ve done 54 too. I may actually experiment with pushing the seats forward 3 feet to try a 70 degree viewing angle. For scope content that is the upper end of the recommended viewing angle based on an ITU report which puts 58 degrees for 1.78:1 content as optimal.
Great video as always. I'm always curious why some of these higher budget rooms that use 16:9 screens don't use the electronic masking. Is there more complications besides cost that I can't think of? Do they not work well? Just curious as I'm thinking of getting one and looking at Stewart or Seymour Screens but I don't see electronic masking very often. Awesome info and his honesty and straightforwardness is good to hear. No BS.
Money! This higher end room is way out of my budget. I was able to do this because of who I am and my connections in the indsutry, but when it came to screens, a masking screen is like twice as expensive as a non-masking screen. I couldn't justify that cost. I would ahve loved the masking, but it was just a lot of money.
@@gregwillis4001 I don’t bother. I’ve thought about doing it though. While I have black enough black bars for it to not be a huge distraction, it’s not totally without issue. It’s certainly not as black as the screen border.
I enjoy a full headrest but high and mid frequencies cannot travel though a headrest. My surrounds are mounted higher and angled downwards, plus I’m always in a reclined position so the sound is not obstructed.
Unless you are specially weight limited which is very rare, you should ALWAYS go with the largest scope screen you can fit. Reason is very simple. To mask off 16:9 and other content, you can use simple curtain systems or drop down masking. If you go the other way, you have to mask off top and bottom which is much harder and more expensive. Also scope lets you do constant image height with something like a madvr envy which is OBJECTIVELY SUPERIOR to constant image width in every way.
I built a masking system out of a simple roller shade motor, tube and velvet. I push a button and the top mask drops down and the bottom mask is pulled up from underneath. My system was under $300 on a 100 inch screen. I wanted a 16X9 screen as I watch a lot of sports and Netflix content. Also, constant image width is OBJECTIVELY SUPERIOR to CIH in every way 😜…
@@bingdong8571Hah fair enough. Well if you happen to live in Florida you are welcome to get a demo. I have the 12" BE Monitors from Ascendo and the Perlisten S7i's. Lots of other speakers for that matter. The Ascenodo's have the advantage of being able to get absurdly loud. They could play fine in even really really large theaters. They can do up to a rated 126dB. I don't know how that was tested but assuming a similar test to what Perlisten does, which is a 3% THD limit, the Perlisten S7i is 120dB or so. Now...keep in mind that most speakers can't do anywhere near that. High output towers are often maxing out at 110-115dB. All at 1 meter, you wouldn't see that at your listening position. That SPL is needed to comfortably hit reference levels, with margin, at the seated position. But the Perlistens have the advantage of a far smoother/flatter response, lower distortion, and a more linear DI. Their directivity is a bit better controlled too, with the vertical beam forming control and very smooth horizontal dispersion. The Ascendo is no slouch, its good, it's just not that good. So hence, I would argue the Perlistens are a better sounding speaker.
This whole video is like a commercial for products. Your other reviews were more personal. This guy is a talking commercial. I loved your other home cinema interviews. Keep up the good work. Except for this guy.
Matthew is a professional in the industry, with a great amount of knowledge in designing home theaters and acoustics. other Home Theater Tours are more personal, where this one is more educational. Fortunately there are over 50 Home Theater Tours on my channel. If this is the only one you don’t care for, then I’d say that’s a huge win. Have a blessed day.
Comments about having budget limitations. Proceeds to go to his Seven (??!!) $4000 bed layer surround speakers and then his Three $8000 Front Speakers, the Trinnov ($18,500) Processor, etc., etc. ($70,000+). 😳🤷♂️🤔🤣😝😂😉
I work in the industry and recieved this gear as review samples, as accomodation priced gear, or otherwise highly discounted. I couldn't afford this kind of system if I was paying normal prices. I work as a professional home theater designer/engineer, I am a writer for multiple major magazines, I am a CEDIA member and serve on multiple steering committees, and I have numerous contracts with these types of companies to support their work in various ways.
Pros-On-Pros. HiFi Bros with Michael and Mr Poes .. "Much I marvelled this ungainly fowl to hear discourse so plainly, Though its answer little meaning-little relevancy bore; For we cannot help agreeing that no living human being Ever yet was blessed with seeing bird above his chamber door- Bird or beast upon the sculptured bust above his chamber door, With such name as “Nevermore.” " Lovely video and depth you've shared .. I used this quote as a word / name play* ... but also to highlight the depth of what we hear. The messengers bring words we may not understand at first ..but carry a lot of meaning and importance. =) Thank you fellas !
I have no relationship to Poe but appreciate the poem. I’ve always loved his work. When my ancestors arrived in this country the spelling at Ellis Island was Poz or Puz. We aren’t 100% sure of the spelling the origin comes from the Hebrew Bible. A word that means finer than gold. I hope folks found the video useful. I try to keep the language at a level that I think most folks will understand. At least I didn’t delve into eigenvectors.
@PoesAcoustics ... I definitely appreciate you / your dedication / knowledge. I wouldn't ever casually assume names apply.. I reach for a joke or humour sometimes in a cavalier sense. Thank you for your detailed history and clarification. Im glad to see your theater featured with Michael. Information is the highest value we can hope to attain. 👍🏻🙏
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Matthew Poes Drops KNOWLEDGE during his Home Theater Tour!
This video is sponsored by Valencia - bit.ly/valencia_all
Contact Matthew Poes - bit.ly/Poes_Acoustics
Matthew Poes Home Theater:
Valencia Naples Elegance - bit.ly/Valencia_Naples
Trinnov Altitude 16 -
Perlisten S7i LCRs - bit.ly/Perlisten_S7i
Perlisten S4i surrounds - bit.ly/Perlisten_S4i
RBH in ceiling atmos speakers
(2) RBH 1212 in wall subwoofers
Seymour Screen Excellence 114” 1.78:1 ratio Neo enlightener fabric
Purifi amplifiers for front channels
Outlaw amplifier surrounds
Artnovion and Poes Acoustics room treatments
Hushframe sound isolation decouplers in the walls, floor, and ceiling
JVC DLA-RS540u projector
Lumagen video processor
Since filming this video Matthew has made these updates:
(4) RTJ 18’s for front subs
Lyngdorf Purifi 8-channel amplifier going in
Installed Waveforming beta for Trinnov
Later he will be upgrading to a Christie projector
Timestamps:
00:00 - Intro
01:31 - Sound Isolation
06:18 - Room Dimensions
07:10 - Perlisten speakers
19:45 - Rear Subwoofers
25:42 - Screen and Projector
36:05 - Valencia Naples Theater Seating
45:30 - Acoustic Treatement
57:14 - Equipment Rack
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All of the best principles of design and science are in a digestible format in one video. Brilliant. Great interview Michael. Ironically i still haven’t heard Matt's system yet and he lives 90min from me. 😅
Come visit when I haven’t left the state!
Thanks for putting him on the map Gene! He's surely one of the most valuable guys in the community. Hope to hear his room one day.
@@PoesAcoustics When 2 friends have really awesome theaters. The rooms cancel each other because neither friend can get out of their room to see each other! 😂😂😂
@@danzilla31stompinontokyo36 Hah well...I've been to Gene's theater a dozen times at this point. He just only shows up at my theater when I've left the country. We will sort it out. He needs to hear it.
What Purifi amp powers the front lcr Perlistens?
Mathew dropping a vast amount of knowledge and can back it all up with data. He needs to be on your weekly live.
You can tell this is a well thought through theatre. Great content and a wealth of information to take in.
The artwork, i see a cassette tape! Very fitting.
I haven't watched a home theater video longer than 20 min in over a year but I like Matthew so much I couldn't stop.
Thank you. That is such a nice comment.
@@PoesAcoustics you’re welcome. I’m a civil engineer so I find your intellect and manor of presenting the material appealing and entertaining. So thank you.
This tour was so well done. I would watch a show on tv with both of you going in to home theaters, you interviewing the owner and matt gives them ideas to improve it over how it currently is. You guys had good back-and-forth... It helps that you both create content in the hobby.
Matthew is amazing!! Takes a complicated subject and breaks it down without talking down to the audience!! Between you two, this was extremely enjoyable and educational!! Loved it!! Top three of RUclips HT videos, IMO! Great job guys!!
I really appreciate that feedback. Thank you!
Matthew is not only a smart guy, he is also highly principled. I inquired if he could acoustically treat my sex dungeon, but he refused, no matter how much I offered him. Good on you, Matthew, for not bending your moral compass for a quick buck! Matthew has gone down enough dark roads to know the cost to one's soul is not worth the fleeting pleasures of the flesh!
I just...can't repsond to this James.
😅
Thanks guys, you convinced me
awesome to see both of you together! I've learned so much from both of you. Such great assets to the field!!
I would love to see pictures of the floating floor construction
If you reach out to me, I can send some.
Excellent video! I love the level of technical discussion. I learned some things. The decisions were well explained.
Great video and phenomenal theater designed by Matthew. Thanks for sharing the knowledge!
Thank you @jaywaller9125
Oh yeah! Thanks a lot again for this high quality video and thanks to Matthew for sharing all this!
Enjoy the video!
I'm only 5 minutes in and this is already my favorite home theater tour I've seen on RUclips! Matt is so knowledgeable and professional, that it makes me wish I could afford to hire him to do the acoustic treatment in my room.
Thank you kindly. This is truly such a unique Home Theater Tour. Glad you are enjoying it and finding value.
Thank you
This is amazing. So unique in its look. The kind of theater only a pro would build.
The seating looks like there straight from the set of Tron... Brilliant look 😎👌
Thanks. I wasn't really going for Tron per se, but sure I'll take it.
I Luv this Video! I get Two of my Favorite Dudes!💯🙌 Amazing Room Dr.Matt!!!
thank you @TMERUNNR
Appreciate the love.
Such a minimalist design with very cool design features . I didn't think I would like the black seating with the white piping but the piping makes the seat almost disappear and gives a floating appearance to the seating. Obviously the acoustic design of the room means it as close to perfect as possible. Poes is a legend in the industry. Very cool that he invited Youthman into his home and gave such a detailed explanation about the room.
This was truly an awesome experience. Matthew is so kind and is definitely a legend in this industry.
Love it, such a great theater with lots of attention to detail! Matt is a true pro and inspired a lot of the sound isolation in my theater.
thank you
Young Matthew @PoesAcoustics has a fantastic room. I had a visit today and he's got everything dialled in nice and tight. Clear midrange, giving excellent vocals, clear surround panning and great bass with loads of headroom thanks to his recently acquired RTJ subs.
Mr Evil golf cart you are not that much older than me! But glad you enjoyed the demo. It was a lot of fun.
I may have to make another visit next year to hear how it sounds with the RTJ subs.
@@Youthman And you can swing by here at the same time. We should have some tasty content for your fans.
A source of inspiration! Thanks to both of you for sharing that knowledge in such a good way.
Matthew Poes is awesome! Glad you have him on
Amazing home theater!
Wow incredible, I just want some treatment and a room curve.
Amazing information
I'm 7.5 feet from 121" diagonal which coincidentally is right at 60 degree viewing angle. To me it's perfect.
I had no clue this video existed! I've always wanted to see his whole theater! I'd love to see more pictures of the walls before the speakers and subs were added as well as all the wiring and how he setup the Trinnov.
The way this and some other Home Theater Tour videos are done, there's not enough visual technical info for me; it's a lot of talking, but it's hard to grasp all the info just hearing about it.
Great room I have a open concept Living room 14 widhet length 24 9.5 height. Wife wants a inwall less speakers on the floor. My wall for the inwalls is in front of the master bedroom. We can hear bass, But my question is will the base be more, less or the same with the S4i or S5i for mt LCR? I read that the Perlisten Inwalls that backbox limits the sound from bleeding into the other room
34:47 glad you guys brought this up I've always disagreed with THX's 36 degree viewing angle, its way to small especially if your playing a game you can't hardly see anything at that viewing angle, best example of this is when I use to PC game on a monitor I'd literally get my nose up against the monitor to see players far off in the distance i was trying to shoot.
The overlapping ceiling panels caught my eye. Never seen that before.
I have never seen that either
@@Youthman Did he say why it's like that? At the very least it looks cool.
@@jeffjefferson7384because it looks cool.
I could make up some nonsense acoustically. It increases absorption. It reflects sound back to the front wall. But none of that is why. I was just mimicking the look of the cantered walls popular these days.
Ha, nice@@PoesAcoustics
Wow, Matthew, this was an incredible home theater tour! It's clear that you put a lot of thought and passion into designing this space, and it truly shows. I especially loved learning about the "why" behind your decisions, like the alternating absorption diffusion absorption panels and the hardwood floors. It's not often you see someone explain the reasoning behind their choices in such a clear and engaging way.
I'm also impressed by how you were able to incorporate so many high-end elements while still making the space feel warm and inviting. The artwork, the seating, and even the lighting all come together to create a truly immersive experience.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge and passion with us, Matthew. This video has definitely inspired me to think more carefully about the design of my own home theater.
Thank you person that is not my brother at all!
I don't think he talked about it, but he has a nice door. 😅 I've learned so much from Matt about what it takes to get a good STC rating.
Man did we forget to talk about my door?
Thanks it is a nice door. I constantly think about upgrading it. But it really is a nice door and I should be happy with it.
@@PoesAcoustics Did you end up with the ISO Door HD?
@@AugmentingLight yeah it’s the IsoDoor HD LF. For the price and availability it’s a very good option. But it’s still an ~STC45 door. That means you can hear a little bit of the content outside the room.
7:12 Love how much detail Matthew went into about the usual negatives/compromises associated with in-wall speakers.
I was the guy that said in-walls are a compromise. Perlisten proves it doesn’t have to be.
now i want perlisten speaker in my room 😂
For 16:9 on my 97" OLED, I'm about a 50 degrees FOV. 60 degrees kept hurting my neck because my TV is 30" off the ground. At 20", it'd be better, but worse when I recline. And then my kids would mess with it.
That’s a lot of info in one video
Told ya! Bro knows his stuff.
Thank you!
Thank you Michael and Matthew! What a beautiful custom, Home theater! It is nice to have the reassurance that a smaller home theater can still be excellent. Because of the structure of my house I was only able to make my room 11 feet wide by 19 1/2 feet deep
and I have 7 foot ceilings. But I absolutely love it! Thank you again for the extensive knowledge and education.
Youthman this was an incredible video! Amazing job and Mathew just a beautiful room. I love the fact that you went for such a unique and beautiful aesthetic for your room rather then a more conventional looking theater room!
Glad you enjoyed it
Thank you Thank you Thank you Youthman (and Matt!) for getting this up!!!!
This is a much longer tour, but I think it provides a TON of value to the Home Theater community.
Epic home cinema!🤩 Great video and love when Mr. Poes shares his knowledge.
Much appreciated. Glad you enjoyed it.
Very excited to see this.
Hope you enjoy it Edward
This was awesome Michael, thanks for doing it. I’ve actually purchased things through Matt and he was great. Gave me great explanations of all my options.
Awesome work, very professional footage and editing 👌🏼
Thank you kindly.
agreed
Thanks Benny
I have alternative absorption and diffusion too, I watched an experts video on the topic and they claimed if you're not an expert with all the measuring tools and knowledge then do alternative.
I hope he can come to my town and help my room curve
Thanks for always dropping the knowledge but now you’ve gotten me in trouble as my wife saw this video and wants those exact floors. Can you tell where I could purchase them? #Doghousedad
Awesome video!!!
I agree with EVERYTHING he said except.... About not wanting the seats to be too comfortable. Come on Mr Poe I'm the exact opposite, I want my seats to be so comfortable I fall asleep every time I'm in there 😂
In fact my wife and I put our bed in the theater room because we practically live in there. If acoustics are done properly it's by far the most comfortable room to hang out in in the entire house. My wife loves going in there to just read books and take a nap. My teenage daughter literally takes her laundry in there to fold because she likes being there so much.
Other than that, LOVE your room
Hah, can't say I agree. Chairs should be very comfortable, but I don't want to be falling asleep every time I watch a movie.
Pretty nice space, many want big cinema rooms but somehow I prefer the moderate sizes, more cozy and feels more like home. My problem with this room are the glossy armrests and bright colored artwork, would be distracting for me. Oh and that projector needs a hushbox since Matt values low noise floor. OK but other than these it's a nice place, well done Matt :) and good job presenting this room Michael
Well I mean, I want a hush box too! I'll get it done at some point. Just a cost issue.
As for the glossy armrests and artwork, once the lights are down and movie is on, you don't really notice either. Certainly no reflections back onto the screen.
@@PoesAcoustics All good then :)
Good stuff Matt, and Micheal. 👏🏾👏🏾
$12,000 $15,000 per chair? INSANE! There's nothing that can justify that kind of cost, unless they have solid gold bases somewhere!
Great review. Love the wall art and acoustic panels
Glad you enjoyed it
Awesome, would love to hear it.
This was an excellent way to showcase how each of us is so different, yet our common interests can bring us together. You and Matt are very different yet you've found a way to let the whole be greater than the sum of the parts so to speak.
I really like that you have different approaches to seating and its educational for everyone.
As an aside, months ago I was going through some rough times and you said that things would turn around for me. Well, you were right. Things are improving greatly. Thank you.
Merry Christmas!
I don't hang out with people just like me, I don't even know anyone else like me. I have to hang out with people who are very different from me or it would be a very lonely existance.
None the less, I think Michael enjoyed his experience with my theater, and I am sure I would enjoy his if I ever heard it.
I 100% enjoyed my time. Matthew you are welcome over anytime.
Great educational video from an audio guru 💪
Great system..
Just curious if you considered to go for 4K UST laser projector in place of regular overhead projector?
No I wouldn’t do that. The performance is far Inferior. In a dedicated theater room like mine there is no reason to use a UST. Those are problem solver products for media rooms that can’t justify a proper standard throw projector. But the UST design has real performance short comings, including significant lens distortion and fairly poor black floor.
Wow, 4 grand for one side surround speaker. My wife would kill me lol.
well..yeah. These are high end speakers, cost is high. But you get what you pay for. Nothing as good for less. This was a business investment for me.
Really?
I’d love to experiment and hear 16 grands worth of bed layer surround speakers. They cannot justify the cost.
Watching now 🎉
I don't have any buttkickers and never had it b4 will I need a mini dsp or it's plug and play via splitter from my avr to the buttkicker amp then from the buttkicker amp to these buttkickers? Btw I found out how to buy the crowsens finally.
So if he upgraded to Trinnov WaveForming, did he have to upgrade his channel count on the Trinnov processor?
No. Waveforming will function with as little as 4 subwoofers, two front and two back. I have 20 channels and I am not using all of them.
Hovereze covers everything below 20hz. Infrasonic bass is just silly unless you are doing very nearfield subs. Use ported subs because you can run them down to the tuning frequency and then Hovereze for the rest. Use the right tool for the job
What’s your describing is the right tool for your preference. Not the right tool for the job.
There isn’t a one size fits all. I for one have yet to enjoy Hovereze. Every system has taken me out of the experience, rather than immerse me into it. I prefer ported on 15” or smaller due to the additional output, but prefer sealed once you get to 18 and larger. Infrasonics from my JTR Captivator RS2’s always put a huge grin on my guests.
I know this guy. He is ridiculously knowledgeable
Great Stuff! I like the flaws in the rack. Not everything has to be perfect to produce results. The hard floors was a surprise. I didnt catch whether a carpeted floor would be a lesser choice acoustically or if it was omitted simply because he could.
It’s arguably a lesser floor acoustically. Let’s say your room needs 300 sq ft of absorption units to hit your target RT60. My floor would be all of that. Leaving nothing for the walls and forcing me to accept a much lower RT60. Further my decay time wouldn’t be as flat or smooth because a carpet is only about a 1” absorber. So its absorption is falling off by 1khz.
That doesn’t mean carpet is never desirable in any way. But it creates acoustic challenges. If a room isn’t being acoustically optimized like mine, carpet is a cheap way to get a lower RT60. But if you plan to really optimize it, no carpet opens up a lot more options.
KNOWLEGE BOMB! :) Hope you do more shows with him
PS. im sitting at 9.5ft from my 120" wide 2:35:1 screen. Currently using on walls below my screen and to the sides. Is it worth it for me to create a 1ft baffle wall and loose that distance, and put some onwall 8" deep speakers behind an acoustically transparent screen?
I would argue yes. I've never found speakers next to and below the screen to offer the same level of believability. The best sound I've achieved has consistently been with the speakers behind the screen.
@@PoesAcoustics I'm sold
Awesome! Any links on that info about the newer studies that suggest the 60-65 viewing angle is more ideal? I think that’s great, because the old THX Standard seemed too small.
@PoesAcoustics I noticed you had speakers that had dynamics and output way more then what you needed for the room. I too love having speakers that have more headroom then my room requires and from what I understand theurs more to this then just they can go loud. Do you mind just elaborating on why you chose to go with speakers that have more headroom then you needed. I wiuld love to hear your thoughts on this
Curious what you'd say is the limit for width of a room to do front wides? I'd assume it would need to be inwall or ceilings? I think Gene's front wides are ceilings, which seems odd to me. I have a bit of an odd shaped room where I lose over a foot on a wall halfway down the length of the room. So I was only looking for a 16.9 screen between 92 and 120 diagonal I think. I have length to spare for baffle walls, just really narrow half of room. I believe it's goes from 11' to 12'3". There a wide closet on that short wall to. Room is 23' something deep with 8' ceilings. Oh, curious I saw no windows in the theater? Isn't 1 egress window required by law or something? I have 3 windows and would love to get ride of them all.
Dedicated private home cinema's never have windows so...no they are not required. My house was fully inspected during construction, as you might expect, and not only do I not have windows in the theater, none of the upstairs windows even open. I had wondered about that too and I was told by the inspector who did one of the inspections that Florida doesn't require operable windows in the upstairs, and that in his opinion, they wouldn't be of much good. You would die trying to escape from them, and if the Fire Department needed to come in that way, they could always break a window (but that would be a challenge as they are hurricane impacted rated to the highest level).
Bedrooms have to have windows that open, if your theater is legally considered a bedroom, you likely can't get rid of them. Nothing in my upstairs is considered a bedroom. It's an office and theater. What we do in bedroom converted theaters is build a "plug" for the window that allows it to be fully covered. You might consider that.
30 seconds in and I’m already jealous. I feel really good about my theater, but Poe’s setup puts mine to shame 😮
I also loved the explanation for the in-walls. How is there not still a large dip in FR around the crossover points in the vertical dispersion due to the listeners being so far off-axis? I heard his excellent explanation but is everyone's head really in the sweet spot of the surrounds?
My brain wants speakers aimed at them! haha! I'm sure they're fantastic. Perlisten makes incredible stuff.
There is no dip in the horizontal off axis at the crossover points. Like at any angle. The listening sweet spot for this speaker is around 60 degrees and even past that it’s simply lower in level. It’s not a bad rough response. There would be a dip in the vertical but you would need to be sitting near the wall on the floor. Aiming speakers is overblown in this regard.
@@PoesAcoustics nice. Thank you!
Glad he likes his space. However 3 rows wide with center acoustic nulls is a no go for me. Also back wall seating will always be boomy and low fidelity, and bright distracting colored side panels are a distraction during viewing, not to mention color splash and contrast hit to the projected image. I'd offer to re do this theater space for next to nothing , with improvements across the board!
It’s always easy to criticize how someone else chose to do their room.
@@Youthman you're right Youth man! The space is amazing! I stand corrected. I'd still do the necessary upgrades for nearly free
I`ve said it before, but there should be a (soft) headrest like it is on premium cars. it would give us the best of two worlds. 😊
I liked this guys approach to acoustics. Seems like he has a scientific approach. At least based on your voices, it seems like this room has great acoustics, not to dry (way too many cinemas) or wet.
Nice looking room 😊How did it sound Michael
This was the first inwall system that I was absolutely impressed by. Perlisten knows their stuff.
Very interesting discussion. Good interview. I can apply a lot of this despite the fact that I'm much more constrained with space and budget. I'd love to hear Matthew's advice to someone who wants to get a substantial education in acoustics without committing to a college degree in the subject. Does he have a reading list and resource list for the person wanting to expand their knowledge of the field? Thanks.
Feel free to reach out to Matthew. I have a link in the description.
Jvc projectors are 17:9 native not 16:9 native fyi
Where can i buy this corner bass trap I need 1
I won’t be able to ever have a room like that , just need help where to put treatment that will work for a room curve
Great tour, Michael, of a fantastic home theater. Matt is super knowledgeable, I’ve watched many of his videos on his channel and with Audioholics. One thing I’m curious about is his MLP-to-screen distance.
It’s around 10’ or so. The viewing angle around 51 degrees. But I admit I move the chairs to try different viewing angles. I’ve done 54 too. I may actually experiment with pushing the seats forward 3 feet to try a 70 degree viewing angle. For scope content that is the upper end of the recommended viewing angle based on an ITU report which puts 58 degrees for 1.78:1 content as optimal.
Great video as always. I'm always curious why some of these higher budget rooms that use 16:9 screens don't use the electronic masking. Is there more complications besides cost that I can't think of? Do they not work well? Just curious as I'm thinking of getting one and looking at Stewart or Seymour Screens but I don't see electronic masking very often.
Awesome info and his honesty and straightforwardness is good to hear. No BS.
Money! This higher end room is way out of my budget. I was able to do this because of who I am and my connections in the indsutry, but when it came to screens, a masking screen is like twice as expensive as a non-masking screen. I couldn't justify that cost. I would ahve loved the masking, but it was just a lot of money.
@@PoesAcoustics Do you manually mask with panels?
@@gregwillis4001 I don’t bother. I’ve thought about doing it though. While I have black enough black bars for it to not be a huge distraction, it’s not totally without issue. It’s certainly not as black as the screen border.
To hot reference do you need a smooth room curve?
I like the tile floors 🤷♂️🤷♂️
Well me too! Thanks.
I’ve never noticed a headrest interfering with the sound at all. Sounds like a recipe for neck pain
I enjoy a full headrest but high and mid frequencies cannot travel though a headrest. My surrounds are mounted higher and angled downwards, plus I’m always in a reclined position so the sound is not obstructed.
Unless you are specially weight limited which is very rare, you should ALWAYS go with the largest scope screen you can fit. Reason is very simple. To mask off 16:9 and other content, you can use simple curtain systems or drop down masking. If you go the other way, you have to mask off top and bottom which is much harder and more expensive. Also scope lets you do constant image height with something like a madvr envy which is OBJECTIVELY SUPERIOR to constant image width in every way.
I built a masking system out of a simple roller shade motor, tube and velvet. I push a button and the top mask drops down and the bottom mask is pulled up from underneath. My system was under $300 on a 100 inch screen. I wanted a 16X9 screen as I watch a lot of sports and Netflix content. Also, constant image width is OBJECTIVELY SUPERIOR to CIH in every way 😜…
2024 Update??
Like an update once the new upgrades are made? We will work on what we can to do more videos. The reality is that this room may change constantly.
This room for the best sound treatment and Ryan's future theater for the best sound quality. Combine these rooms if you are a billionaire.
I would argue the Perlisten is a better speaker for sound quality than the Ascendos. I think I have both 😂
@@PoesAcoustics I wish I could afford any to know better.
@@bingdong8571Hah fair enough. Well if you happen to live in Florida you are welcome to get a demo. I have the 12" BE Monitors from Ascendo and the Perlisten S7i's. Lots of other speakers for that matter.
The Ascenodo's have the advantage of being able to get absurdly loud. They could play fine in even really really large theaters. They can do up to a rated 126dB. I don't know how that was tested but assuming a similar test to what Perlisten does, which is a 3% THD limit, the Perlisten S7i is 120dB or so. Now...keep in mind that most speakers can't do anywhere near that. High output towers are often maxing out at 110-115dB. All at 1 meter, you wouldn't see that at your listening position. That SPL is needed to comfortably hit reference levels, with margin, at the seated position.
But the Perlistens have the advantage of a far smoother/flatter response, lower distortion, and a more linear DI. Their directivity is a bit better controlled too, with the vertical beam forming control and very smooth horizontal dispersion. The Ascendo is no slouch, its good, it's just not that good.
So hence, I would argue the Perlistens are a better sounding speaker.
I’m sure this room sounds incredible. In terms of the style, wow, not for me at all. But we all have our likes and dislikes.
This whole video is like a commercial for products. Your other reviews were more personal. This guy is a talking commercial. I loved your other home cinema interviews. Keep up the good work. Except for this guy.
Matthew is a professional in the industry, with a great amount of knowledge in designing home theaters and acoustics. other Home Theater Tours are more personal, where this one is more educational. Fortunately there are over 50 Home Theater Tours on my channel. If this is the only one you don’t care for, then I’d say that’s a huge win. Have a blessed day.
@@Youthman absolutely. You’re a good sport. Yep huge win. Your other stuff has been viewed and enjoyed. You too have a blessed day.
Comments about having budget limitations. Proceeds to go to his Seven (??!!) $4000 bed layer surround speakers and then his Three $8000 Front Speakers, the Trinnov ($18,500) Processor, etc., etc. ($70,000+). 😳🤷♂️🤔🤣😝😂😉
Everyone’s budget is different.
I work in the industry and recieved this gear as review samples, as accomodation priced gear, or otherwise highly discounted. I couldn't afford this kind of system if I was paying normal prices. I work as a professional home theater designer/engineer, I am a writer for multiple major magazines, I am a CEDIA member and serve on multiple steering committees, and I have numerous contracts with these types of companies to support their work in various ways.
Pros-On-Pros. HiFi Bros with Michael and Mr Poes ..
"Much I marvelled this ungainly fowl to hear discourse so plainly,
Though its answer little meaning-little relevancy bore;
For we cannot help agreeing that no living human being
Ever yet was blessed with seeing bird above his chamber door-
Bird or beast upon the sculptured bust above his chamber door,
With such name as “Nevermore.” "
Lovely video and depth you've shared .. I used this quote as a word / name play* ... but also to highlight the depth of what we hear.
The messengers bring words we may not understand at first ..but carry a lot of meaning and importance. =)
Thank you fellas !
I have no relationship to Poe but appreciate the poem. I’ve always loved his work.
When my ancestors arrived in this country the spelling at Ellis Island was Poz or Puz. We aren’t 100% sure of the spelling the origin comes from the Hebrew Bible. A word that means finer than gold.
I hope folks found the video useful. I try to keep the language at a level that I think most folks will understand. At least I didn’t delve into eigenvectors.
@PoesAcoustics ... I definitely appreciate you / your dedication / knowledge.
I wouldn't ever casually assume names apply.. I reach for a joke or humour sometimes in a cavalier sense. Thank you for your detailed history and clarification.
Im glad to see your theater featured with Michael. Information is the highest value we can hope to attain. 👍🏻🙏