How to Fill Your Own Sodastream Cylinders/Bottles at Home - Save Cash - More Convenient
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- Опубликовано: 6 июн 2018
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Sodastream machines are awesome but the filling cost of the small sodastream cylinders is definitely not awesome. If you want an easy way to fill sodastream cylinders yourself at home this is the perfect device for the job.
really helpful explaining how the newer valves work. Well done. thanks!
Excellent Tutorial and very professionally presented. Just purchased one of these adaptors after searching everywhere for a female connection on both ends to connect my BOC type 30 D tank to a soda stream tank. Thanks for the tips 👍👍
Thanks so much for this tutorial! It explained why I wasn't getting a fill!
No worries at all. Let us know if you need any further assistance.
Awesome instructions and advice Kegland!
Wow what an incredibly clear video….big fan of kegland now just because of this!!
Thanks for that. We appreciate it.
Excellent public speaker. Well presented. Should come to US and tour professionally !!
Thank you. Cheers!
Best explanation on how to fill the co2 of a soda stream, thank you!!
No worries. Thanks for the support.
If you really want to fill the Sodastream cylinder to full capacity, just do it twice. Freeze the cylinder in the freezer, then follow the instruction here and fill it up as much as you can. Then put it back in the freezer again so the cylinder and the CO2 gas that has fill up the cylinder to 80-90% capacity is at freezing temperature, then follow the refill instruction from here again. And if you weight the cylinder this time, you will see that it is at full capacity. This is the best method to ensure that it is fill to 100% capacity, even if it might be a hassle freezing the cylinder twice.
Btw. Do not take too long to close the valve of the refill tank. If you take too long, the Sodastream cylinder will absorb the ambient heat from the room and increase the temperature of the Sodastream cylinder thus increase the pressure inside the cylinder. The higher pressure inside the cylinder will push the CO2 gas inside the cylinder back into the refill tank to equalize the pressure between the two, thus resulting in less CO2 gas inside the cylinder.
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Thank you very much explaining why the latest cylinders valve design makes problems filling up. Been surfing the net for some hours. Found your video on a German posting: “Bei ca. 5:30 Minuten erklärt der Junge auf die Unterschiede der Ventile und wie man entsprechend unterschiedlich bei der Befüllung vorgeht.
Viele Grüße, Martin”
…..And he also posted your RUclips weblink. Now it works. Again thank you. Fritz
Cheers! Happy to help.
Super video. You solved my problem. During refilling I was opening the valve on the large host cylinder too fast, and, as you showed in your video, this was causing the valve in the new-style sodastream canister to close shut, thus preventing filling.
Yes it's very annoying that Sodastream have put this feature into the new cylinders. it really makes the filling process more compilated.
Can you still buy an old style sofa stream cylinder
Somebody has a hard science background. Cheers guys great content, great products!
Thanks for that we appreciate the support.
Thanks Kee, I've just used the adapter for the first time and filled two bottles following your video.
I'm surprised how much I was able to get into each cylinder.....416g into a standard 400g standard cylinder, and 339g into a 330g starter cylinder. Both chilled to -20c, filled from a 6kg host.
A very handy piece of brass!
I'm pretty sure it would be dangerous to fill the sodastream tanks - or any tanks - beyond what they are rated for. You can use the bleed valve to release the excess co2.
@@thomasweber6385 No, no danger. The moment you open the donor bottle's valve the small bottle instantly reaches maximum pressure.
@@thomasweber6385 just swapped some bottles at Noel leemings.
The 270 was filled to 325g and the 400 to 425g net.
@@thomasweber6385 you are only pouring co2 from one cylinder to another. the pressure is the same :) Only problem is when it is totally full, then it is super hard to open its valve - for this reason is the overfilling not good.
Congrats for the very well detailed video!
Thank you very much!
Well explained!
Living in Manitoba Canada, -35c is easy in January to 'chill' the cylinders!
Wow. That's icy!
Not so easy in Nth Qld Australia, coldest winters day is about 8deg C
@@KegLand wow KegLand you respond to this but not a troubling question on your product or the default of the release valve on the cylinder. What a team
@@jamesheinzle8917 Hello James. Sounds like you have a specific issue with a product you have got? If that is the case best to email the guys in customer service. Please send your order number and some information regarding the issue and I am sure they can assist.
No wonder we have difficult times to do this in +46c Indian summer in May.
Great video it help to solve my problem!
Cheers!
Perfect explanation. Thanks
Cheers!
explains great about opening the valve just a little for slow fill, worked well for me, otherwise the soda stream tank closes if opened to fast and wont fill, that is what happened to me, the other guys don't mention that important thing
A lot of people do have some trouble filling the genuine soda stream bottles because of that.
@@KegLand how slow is a slow fill??
Well this was an excellent video. Thank you.
No worries. thanks for your support!
great piece of information! Thanks for sharing this
My pleasure!
Can I fill a 130L soda stream cylinder with this adapter?
Thanks for the info on the SS valve. I've been having a hell of a time trying to fill them.
LoL! I thought that bolt was to hold the brass fitting on the nonscrewable CO2 bottle.
I was having a hard time getting the Sodastream canister to fill, even with opening very slowly and releasing pressure. What I found eventually worked with reliability is to loosely screw the Sodastream canister to the adapter so gas can escape when you open the CO2 tank, then slowly tighten the Sodastream canister and it will stay open and fill.
This is the only technique that worked for me as well. It is described by someone else below as well. I tried tightening both fully and using the bleed valve on the adapter open at the beginning to try to gradually introduce CO2 to the Soda Stream cylinder but you are absolutely right - if you tighten it on too much to start you won't get any gas transfer.
That is the correct way. Some people struggle when they overtighten the cylinders. Though getting one of our Kegland Branded bottles makes it even simpler to refill.
FINALLY! Someone who explains why I wasn't getting anywhere with it. This worked a treat straight away 👍
Thanks, that works
Thank you!!!
I know it will use a bit of gas but wouldn’t opening the bleed valve/bolt on the side of the soda stream valve head chill the bottle down rapidly while filling it with some gas? If one wants to get serious you could cascade the gas.
Thanks for this great tutorial, I'm about to try this for the first time today. Any minimum recommended time to freeze the bottle before refilling it ?
Excellent video!!! Do KegLand 6Kg cylinders come without a dip tube? I ask just to confirm that they must be turned upside down too.
Great information thank you
will this adapter work with a CGA 320 bottle?
Adding a second o-ring to the bleed valve did the trick for me.
Still some gas leaking between the thread of the adapter and big bottle, thread was very tight, guess i should have tightened it more, but worked.
I'm filling sodastream bottles from a full 8.3kg no dip tube CO2 cylinder, it doesn't seem to have an RPV valve. I've put your easy fill valves on the sodastream bottles and I'm putting the bottles in the freezer. I'm releasing the residual gas from the sodastream just before I fill them, I hold the cylinder upside down for filling. The fill I get is around the 300gm mark, is that as good as it gets? Just curious, its not a problem.
Excellent vid...cheers
Thank you cheers!
Hi thanks for this clear vid, im a airgun collector and just purchased some old CO2 match rifles / pistols, (Walther CGM, Feinwerkbau C62) how do you time the filling for each cylinder, is there an average time for an amount of cc, do you hear the speed of filling go slower or do i have to get a (Tara) scale and flexible hose and weight the filling.
You have to do it by weight if you overfill them kiss your old seals goodbye.
Do you have the US version in stock. I couldn’t find it on your website. Part # KL07160?
Hi. Can I get one of these adapters in the USA? I see your website doesn't allow shipping to there. Thanks!
Thanks everyone. I was even trying to leave the relief valve open with a plan to close it as soon as gas started to transfer. Just kept blowing the O ring. I'll try leaving the soda stream bottle a little loose to start.
It's not a good idea to have the soda bottle loose when you start. It really damages the o-ring.
I have had a slightly different experience in using my adapter. I follow the steps as per the video however I found that I tighten the adapter all the way to the CO2 bottle which is fine and then I hand tighten the pre frozen sodastream cylinder to the adapter. If I tighten the sodastream cylinder it all the way the gas doesn't flow so I loosen the sodastream cylinder (about an eigth of a turn) with the CO2 turned on and I can hear it start to fill. I only slightly crack the CO2 cylinder to get the gas flowing and I leave it upside down on a bench (I have a six kg CO2 Cylinder) and it takes about ten minutes to fill. Midway through the fill I check to see if the gas is still flowing as obviously there is a bit off back pressure so I increase the CO2 flow slightly so I can hear it running again. After ten or so minutes I check it and if there is no gas running I increase the pressure on the CO2 bottle again and if there is no obvious flow I turn off the CO2 and disconnect the SodaStream bottle. Doing it this way I can get the total weight of the refilled bottle to 1145g. A factory bottle filled is 1180g. One thing to note which I don't think is in the video is that if you partially fill the bottle and the safety valve goes off I don't think you can continue to fill the bottle, you either have to use the gas in it or empty it out. You have to empty it before you start to fill it in the beginning also. Hope this helps.
Is this true/confirmed if you put too much pressure and trip the pin you have to empty the whole bottle or cannot fill anymore?
@@misterwilson9929 It is false. Use the release valve to depressurise the adapter and start over to refill but more slowly.
Lifesaver! Thought I was going crazy as I could not fill my SS bottle from the 6kg bottle. Your trick with the slight loosening worked for me. I tried with and without the RPV in place. Left it in the last time and the bottle took 2 minutes to fill. It's a bit of an art to turn the valve on very slowly.
This is the only technique that worked for me. I spent ages trying to crack the bottle gently etc etc and even loosened off the bleed valve on the adapter so that I could feel when the co2 was 'just' starting to release with no result. This technique was the winner for me and worked straight away. You, Sir, are a legend. I froze my Soda Stream cylinder for 1 hour and used this exact technique, coming back after 3 mins to open the main cylinder valve a touch as the flow had indeed stopped due to back pressure. Got my Soda Stream cylinder 95% full (1100g) and got a smooch from the wife.
You are a champion! Thankyou for your insight: I was going crazy fiddling and faffing about and occasionally getting some gas in the sodastream bottles. 1/8 turn back from tight and it works like it should - 1100g fill which I think is as good as it gets under home conditions.
where do I buy this adapter?
best youtube video ever!
Any advailable tube and fitting to simply hook the big cylinder to the sodastream and not deal with the refilling ?
@@bluesdog88 Yes this is my preferred method. Just get the hose and be done with filling all together.
I have the connector but it’s been a pain to get more than a short sound.
Took it off but noticed the pin won’t move anymore, any clue as to why the pin is now stuck down?
I have the main bottle from you guys and the direct adapter so using that too, I just wanted to get the the hand of the refiller adapter also :)
I may swap the bottle out of the pin is stuck down
You might have a faulty sodastream cylinder in that case. I would recommend purchasing one of the KegLand branded sodastream type cylinders.
When you press 'Fizz'... stop before the overfill squawk.
Then Wait at least 30 seconds before doing another Fizz button.
Then Wait another 30 seconds for the third Fizz.
And finally - Wait 10 to 15 seconds and release the bottle.
This gives the CO2 time to dissolve into the water.
When press, press, press and Release in a few seconds... there is not sufficient time for the CO2 to dissolve in water.
Everyone who does the 'wait' between the three Fizz will use LESS CO2 and have Very Fizzy water, wine, tequila, vodka (anything other than water - only fill bottle to the 25 to 33% amount/volume of the SodaStream Bottle - do not fill to the WATER Line with wine or alcohols). :)
Thanks mate! I was opening way too fast. Great tutorial! Thumbs WAY up. :)
Glad it helped. Cheers!
I had a guy come in today asking for a way to do this! Do you guys happen to also have an adapter that would make the larger tank replace the soda stream instead of having to refill the smaller tank?
If your talking about attaching it to the soda stream yes they do. If not you can find them on the net with various hose lengths.
This is such a great explanation, thank you for making this! How do you know which the can is full and when to turn it off and detach?
Its a liquid transfer so basically it is self equilibrating
Can you use a co2 fire extinguisher to chill the sodastream cylinder.?
Yes you can if you wanted to but it's a bit of a waste of fire extinguishers.
Do the 6kg cylinders also not have a "dip tube" and thus also need to be inverted?
yes thats correct.
Why should I remove the RPV from the cylinder valve?? Isn’t this defeating the purpose of having an RPV in the first place??
The RPV is for retaining a small amount of positive pressure in the larger cylinder. So before the cylinder is empty this should be replaced. You can try and fill the sodastream with this in place but the fill rate for your Sodastream will be very slow.
Can you demonstrate which o-rings/washers go where from that brass valve kit from amazon? It's not clear at all
I am not sure about the stuff on Amazon as we do not sell anything on Amazon
Nice guy ☺
@kegland What regulators do you use to then use the Co2 in the sodsastream cylinder?
You can use our MK4 dual gauge regulator along with the deluxe soda stream adaptor.
Is it possible to use this adapter to connect to a regulator and serve beer as well? Or do I need 2 adapters if I want to refill and serve? Cheers
You will need two adaptors as the threads are different.
How can you tell if your gas bottle has dip tube and are these available in the uk, Thank you
Best to check with the manufacturer directly.
Hi, will this adapter work with the 450g KegLand brand CO2 bottles? Or only with SodaStream bottles?
Cheers
Yes absolutely. The Kegland cylinders are easier to fill and can be purchased here:
www.kegland.com.au/450gram-sodastream-compatible-refillable-gas-cylinder-for-co2-or-nitrogen.html
Hi guys, I filled as per the video, tried to bleed the gas connector but it kept going. Went to unscrew the bottle and it was just spewing gas. Ended up fully unscrewing it whilst leaking...the valve seemed to be stuck open. Any advice on how to prevent that?
The poppet pin might just need to be reseated. This can be done by lightly pushing down on the pin.
good information, thanks kee..........can i use the freedom one soda stream adapter hose during the transfer.......may make it easier, cheers.......
basically wondering if the hose can handle the liquid co2, and is it actually possible with the fittings on the hose.
Not without modifying it. The freedom one hose has female on one side and male thread on the other side. To connect the cylinder to the sodastream you need female to female threads on both ends like this adaptor in the video.
I Purchased a 20 pound CO2 cylinder tank (with dip tube) for refilling my 130 L and 60 L Carbonators. I watched your RUclips video and learned a lot. I have an adapter valve that connects to both my host cylinder and the smaller Sodastream cylinders (I've put my soda stream cylinders in the freezer prior to filling as you suggested.) I’m using a scale and never get more than four or 5 ounces into my 60L cylinders or 9oz in my 130L tanks . I’m wondering why. Any suggestions?
Is it possible you don't open the feeder CO2 cylinder anymore from the point it was opened to when you start filling your smaller cylinder? If that is the case, the back pressure in the smaller cylinder may be preventing more CO2 from the feeder from entering. I get this idea from reading @free4free68 comments. His or her comments were very enlightening.
Rosie Feord I tried to open it more but didn’t hear any sound of gas filling
Hi, after refilling i unscrewed the bottle and the gas goes off the bottle. The valve doesn't hold the gas anymore in the bottle, seems like it is broken. I tried again few times and it is always the same think, whatever i manage to put in the bottle cannot stays in anymore. ANy idea how to fix the valve ?
It's possible that if the valve on the sodastream was not done up tightly then if you grab onto the cylinder body to undo the cylinder then the valve might come undone and this might cause a leak. So it would be slightly better to use a spanner and undo the cylinder by the two small flats on the brass valve neck rather than grabbing the aluminium cylinder body itself.
If you have accidentally undone the valve slightly then the best thing to do is change the cylinder valve o-ring.
How does the factory fill these small (489g) CO2 bottles? do they freeze them over night as well, since there is no bleed port? If i bring the bottle and adapter to a gas supplier, wont they need to freeze the tank to get any real product transfer?
No, when these are filled in the factory they are done with a pump that forces gas into the tank. We do sell the pumps on our website and they are a few thousand bucks.
Hi, what is the difference between this adapter, and the one with manual regulators
This adaptor is use to refill the smaller soda stream bottles from a larger host bottle.
Thank you. Is this suitable for Terra machine cylinders?
Not at this stage. We're working on it
PS
Is c02 sensitive and dangerous to store?
Does the can have a shelf life?
i am hoping to find somewhere to buy my own and an adapter
Canadian tire gives a 16.00 Canadian, discount if i return my empty can
So it`s 20.00 Canadian
Is that a good deal compared to buying a much larger can and doing my own?
If its somehow sensitive or dangerous i likely would not do it,as i have my grand weans here a lot
Cheers
CO2 has not shelf life.
As long as you follow these instructions this process is quite safe and relatively straight forward.
Hi! Does the adapter have a pin on the side where you screw in the sodastream bottle?
yes it does.
Is it possible to buy the old style Sodastream cylinder valves and change out the new style for the original style?
Yes it's possible but we now sell our own sodastream cylinders that are quite cheap so it's probably just easier to purchase the ones that we seel that are much easier to fill.
-40 or -50 will give the best fill? So I’ll just fill it up outside here in Canada in the winter.
Early February just might be the optimal time to do the year’s worth of refills, at least on The Rock, than!
Haha that seems like a solid plan! Do let us know if it works.
When I slowly open my source tank, air comes gushing out of the sodastream bottle side. I've tried with 1 washer, 2 washers and no washers. I can't get a clean seal. Any ideas?
Check the bleed valve o-ring - that's the most likely culprit
bit confused over the RPV. You fully removed it in the video, but, your website PDF document titled " CO2 Gas Cylinder RPV Adjustment" shows how to remove, adjust it, then reinsert back into bottle. I interpret that PDF document as requiring the RPV to go back into the gas cylinder.
Can you please clarify?
Yes after the fill has been completed you should insert the RPV back into the valve itself.
Are all RPV removeable? You said some are round, what key to use to remove the round one?. Some adaptor has an additional piece to sit in it and push the RPV back. If all RPV are removeable, then why need that add-on pin to push it?
Hi, here is my setup:
Sodastream bottle (old valve)-> adapter (same as in video) ->RPV cylinder
I tight all components as hard as I can to avoid leaks and open the cylinder valve. CO2 starts to flow to my bottle, but in a few seconds (3 or so) gas starts to leak through the small relieve pressure valve (labeled as 250 bar) in the bottle. Then, I close the cylinder valve and manage to unscrew the bottle not to lose all the CO2 inside it (notice than when released from the adapter no more CO2 is leaked). When weighed it is only roughly 100gr heavier than empty (850gr).
Any clues why CO2 is leaking through the small 250bar valve when connecting to the adapter->cylinder?
Have you tried flipping it over, so it's liquid that get transferred. If it is just pressurized gas, I'm not sure it all can be compressed to liquid.
Otherwise you would have infinite energy, as you could just transfer it back and forth, having the cylinders turn cold and warm, as it compressed and decompressed.
I was having a similar problem.
I printed an additional washer to put on the thumbscrew to ensure the little red o-ring was creating a good enough seal.
If you don't have a 3D printer, just put another little red o-ring on the thumb screw and tighten with some pliers.
I've found I'm better off operating without the using thumb screw.
Hi. How do you stop it from overfilling? Or does it just naturally stop itself?
Unless your larger cylinder has been overfilled you will find it difficult to overfill the smaller sodastream cylinder. With that said if you simply have a set of scales and check the weight after you fill you will very quickly work out if you need to take some gas out of the top of the cylinder
I want to get a soda stream bottle to replace the little 12g canisters I use for growlers at home since they are not reuseable. As for the American vs Australian threads at the end of the vid, do they pertain to the threads on the large CO2 tank or the threads on the soda stream? I currently use aquarium CO2 tanks. Thanks!
most shops will fill the soda stream bottles if you bring your adapter as most shops dont have them but are happy to fill them up
How much do they charge? I used to just exchange bottles at Bed, Bath and Beyond, but they are all closed now!
@@freewaybaby depends on place in my city party city will do it for $2-$5
what if I've followed all the directions exact but I cannot hear the air transfering?
You may want to look at upgrading to one of the KegLand cylinders. They are much easier to fill.
Credit for doing in one take.
I filled a sodastream bottle from the freezer and left in the kitchen in the warm, the safety valve blew out on the bottle when it warmed up, can I assume this is not advisable?? Maybe the the pressure goes up when the bottle warms up?
You need to weigh the bottle before and after, and bleed the cylinder if it is more than 400g.
is it possible to overfill the sodastream tank using this method?
@TMoD7007 yes I recently tried this and actually overfilled my 14oz bottle to 15oz (I weighed it afterwards). Was easy to bleed out the extra ounce, but had I not been using a scale, would never have know. The problem is you can't weigh as you fill since it is rigidly attached to the tank
@@misterwilson9929 Yeah. I will buy one on a hose so I can weigh it.
Yes you can. I did it the tank flew off and it was VERY dangerous. Do not do this.
@@elainenicole7573 U need to use the release tap/valve prior to removing the cyclinder to remove the pressure
Do you sell adapters for quick connect the new pink bottles ?
I am not sure what you mean Pink bottles?
How will you know when its full? Will it make that same "pop" noise that it made when you went too fast?
It does make a very small noise when you fill too fast but its such a small noise you probably will miss it.
@@KegLand But, as was asked, how do you know when it’s full?
Would also like to know how you can tell when it's full cheers
@@joshg9613 It's best to detach the cylinder then weigh it on the scales. You can measure how much gas based on how heavy the cylinder is after the fill.
What’s the cost breakdown?
How much does it cost per soda stream cylinder, when u factor in the cost of the big one, adaptor and refilling the big cylinder????
this will vary depending on where you are in Australia. For KegLand in Melbourne please refer to our prices on the website.
We can not get this to work no matter what we try. We have purchased the adapter noted in this video and the hose adapter with regulator. neither work. what r we doing wrong?
Sounds like you need to contact the distributor you purchased this from. It's difficult to say without more information but if you can take some photos or a video of what you are doing that normally helps a lot. If you purchase it from our online store then you should contact our customer support team.
Dear KegLand, I have a large food grade CO2 cylinder with a double gate valve and pressure gauge set up and a flexible-hose to connect to my soda stream cylinder. I screw the soda stream cylinder onto the flexible-hose and fill my soda stream cylinder easy but on removal as I’m screw the cylinder off the flexible hose their is leakage from the soda stream bottle as the centre pin is depressed on removal. I have to try to do it very quick. Do you or anyone have a solution to the unscrewing leakage problem?
It's probably best that you email us some photos so we can better understand what you are doing. It sounds like you are using slightly different setup to the normal configuration.
how do i know when receiving cylinder is as full as it's going to get?
always check the empty and full weight before and after filling.
Does the refillable bottle comply with ISO 10297 valve compliance?
We are goverend by the Australian standards in Australia and our Sodastream Type cylinders meet all the requirements of the Australian standards and work cover safety. I can't comment on the ISO10297 as this is an international standard which we have not looked into. Often the standards are quite similar between Australian standards and ISO standards but it's outside of my expertise.
@@KegLand Ohok would you be able to tell me which Australian standard does the valve complies to?
I’m using the smaller sodastream cylinders. The ones that make 30L of soda. The cylinder holds 270g of CO2. How many times could a 3kg cylinder fill this? Is it basically 3kg divided by 0.27kg = 11 fills? Or due to residual pressure in the main tank you only get say, 9 fills as an example?
Yes you will end up with a small amount of CO2 in the large tank but it's negligiable. You would end up very clost to 11 fills.
Thanks
I have a #20 lb. C02 tank, do I have to invert it like a small one you are using?
interested in this info too...its a heavy thing to hold upside down for 2 minutes haha
If your cylinder has a dip tube, you do not need to invert the bottle. The cylinders that we sell do not have a dip tube and hence need to be inverted.
i want to buy one
Where can I get the device with the American threading (KL07160)? It isn't on your website.
Best to check with a local distributor in the US like MoreBeer or Williams Brewing.
How do you know when the soda stream tank is full?
I believe it should weigh about 750g when empty and 1200g when full.
@@JerrySmiler1968 Oh great! Thank you!
Maybe add a note to keep sodastream bottle a bit loose to start the filling as that is the only way one can fill the bottle to its capacity. The normal process does not work well.
Is this the same with the older push-button valves on the SS cannisters?
I tried it but it wouldn't fill up. Only a tiny amount gets into the cylinder then nothing happens. My cylinder is huge one, used in pubs, so didn't turn it upside down. Not sure what is wrong.
You need to turn the cylinder upside down. It will not work unless you do this.
How do i know if my host cylinder has a diptube
Difficult to say. I would check with the manufacturer.
Checked your website and I don't see the American thread type available
The kegland website has just the Australian model. If you contact our American distributors they will have the correct thread to suit America.
KegLand has two main distributors in America. www.morebeer.com and www.williamsbrwing.com
you need to weigh you cylinder before filling as you must only fill co2 to 66% of the water capacity of the cylinder to allow for expansion of the gas when the cylinder warms up. determine the volume of the cylinder, it should be stamped on the neck of the cylinder and only fill to 66% full.
Kegland, is it really necessary to remove the refilling adapter from the cylinder and replace the RPV each time? Can I just leave the refilling adaptor on the cylinder without using the RPV?
If you have a larger bottle, just use it straight to the sodastream. You cannot EVER recharge the sodastream cartridge full, what this system do is only equalize the pressure between cylinders, which means the less gas you have on the bigger cylinders, the less it will transfer. Waste of time.
It is not necessary but removing it will speed it up.
@@KegLand Hi Kegland. I wish to make a complaint here. I have a 6kg cylinder purchased through your reseller Brewmart. If you leave the refilling adapter on and do not replace the RPV each time, then a slow leak occurs and you will eventually lose most of the CO2.
I've only done 2 refills of a Sodastream canister. After the second refill I decided to leave the adapter in place for convenience. Imagine my surprise doing the third refill when I found the tank felt much lighter when I turned it upside down and the canister didn't refill.
I suggest updating your video description to include the important steps involved in doing this refill method, with final step being "Reinsert RPV valve to prevent gas leakage".
@@JuliusPang Hello Julius. The RPV is only a small residual pressure valve and keeps a small amoutn of pressure in the cylinder and this will make no difference to leaks. The PRV is only in place to prevent contamination getting in the cylinder. If you have had the gas cylinder leak out you almost certainly did not have the black handle on the top of the cylinder valve turned off completely. There is a small chance that the valve is faulty. If you ever want to check the valve just turn off the valve and then immerse the whole cylinder in water and look for bubbles.
So I take it by inverting the feed bottle you're actually filling the Soda bottle with liquid CO2 & not gas? Hence the need to freeze the bottle to reduce any "flashing".
Bingo
Okay so i stumbled upon the following issue:
I tried filling a soda stream cylinder which i cooled in the freezer for about an hour or 2. Using a similar setup but i have an adapter with a high pressure hose attached. The cylinder is standing on a scale while i am filling it up so i can exactly see how much it weighs. With the cooled cylinder i manage to almost fully fill it up. (Which you dont want to do completely because the gas will expand a little more when it reaches room temperature). So when i filled it for about 80% i close the big tank, use the bleed valve and take the cylinder off. While doing this i noticed the soda stream valve (newer disk version) keeps leaking gas. I tried to look this up on the internet but could not find a solution for this problem yet. This happened twice already with 2 different cylinders.. both with the new disk valve. I somehow think this is a build in temper-proof valve which soda stream now uses to force customers to swap the empty cylinders for a new one for the ridiculous price they’re asking.. Has anyone else encountered the same problem i just described and maybe found a solution to solve this issue? Excuse me for my spelling mistakes by the way. Please like this comment so more people can see!! Hope to hear back from someone!:) Peace.
The brass nozzle can be replaced with one that allows easy refilling. Before you buy, check that the threads work for your country, because they do vary.
www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001335435349.html
Send the faulty bottle back to soda stream and they will replace it - it did take around 2-3 weeks but they replace them for free if they continue to leak
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So I get it filled but when releasing the back pressure after fill, the cylinder seems to freeze the valve open . How can I fill and keep it from freezing
I have the same issue, 2 cylinders now no longer usable, and unscrewing these ones are scary
@@menvert so when do these guys ever comment to a post I buy there product and can't get ahold if them so I tried here but there outstanding customer service has no response faulty equipment at this point
Please!!! Can I use this adapter and technique for soda stream TERRA???
yes I believe so.
Does the sound stop when it is full? Then weight it right? * * * Empty 425g - Empty Weight 760g - Full Weight 1185g -
The sound will stop when the pressure equalizes. As you have worked out this may or may not be full. Checking with scales is the best way to confirm fill level.
Hey guys, I've got a feeling I overfilled my latest Sodastream cylinder.. it's weighing 1300grams after the fill , about 80 grams more than it should. Is there a risk with connecting this to the Sodastream machine? Should I purge some gas before I hook it up? Cheers.
The sodastream machine would be fine. I would connect the cylinder and purge out some gas sooner rather than.
@@KegLand Thanks cobba, will do
It will be fine, but you need to allow for expansion upon warming as to no blow cylinder
Followed instructions to a T. Tightened with shifters. Opened valve very slowly, heard gas for a nano second and wasting a lot of gas in the connection every time. The 2,6 kg bottles are brand new. Help i need to carb my xpa asap
Are you freezing the soda stream cylinder overnight in the freezer before refilling it? Is your soda stream cylinder completely empty before you try to refill? If there is any residual gas within the cylinder, it will prevent any liquid from coming in. What is the weight of the host cylinder? As the host cylinder gets empty, you would not be able to fill the soda stream cylinder completely.
If you are using genuine sodastream cylinders, these are a lot more difficult to refill as they have been designed in a way to prevent people from refilling. We would recommend getting one of our Kegland branded sodastream cylinders which are a lot easier to refill.
Lastly, make sure you have enough gas to refill with. As you use up liquid CO2 from your host bottle, you will get lesser and lesser refills as the liquid CO2 gets used up.
Do the 6kg cylinders have dip tubes - that is - do you need to invert them as well?
justcruisin109 i have the same question
Gareth Piercey Hi - Sorry but they don’t - I just invert the cylinder if filling the small bottles. Cheers
@@justcruisin109 thanks does it make a big difference if you don't invert?
Yep - you won’t get the CO2 liquid - just the gas that sits above the liquid so bugger all CO2 will go into your bottle. Cheers
Yes you have to invert both cylinder types. We do not sell ones with dip tubes.