How She Ruled Paris From Her Bed | Valtesse de La Bigne
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- Welcome to Forgotten Lives! In today's episode we are looking into the life of Valtesse de La Bigne, one of the most distinguished and wealthy courtesans of 19th century Paris.
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I feel that after the incident when she just was a young girl she grew to despise men therefore was able to use them so easily and abandon one for another, also there is her wanting to be the benefactor of female artist when she “retired”. I can’t blame her to be fair she did what she has to survive even with such horrible trauma.
The thing that bugs me about this is when men are ruthless and treat women badly we don’t judge them. But when women do the same they’re judged.
@@ladyredl3210 stfu fr 😂 nowhere near true lmfao
Uh...we use the men bc they don't want to commit,don't wanna do right,the men are the whores,making some of us ,omen to depend on them for financial help,it sucks!!😢
@@ladyredl3210 right
@@ladyredl3210 What self pitying garbage. …men are absolutely excoriated these days when they treat women badly…by the media, their community, by their colleagues, and every other institution. Are you living under a rock ?
It’s women who are given freedoms to mock, mistreat and abuse men without any negative repercussions, and frequently with overt support.
Years of reading and never knew of the head shaving penalty. If we're fortunate, learning is lifelong. Thank you for your time and effort !
Thanks for watching 😁
@@ForgottenLives It was my pleasure, I'm looking forward to more ! Just when I think I...bam, somebody new, knowing so much it keeps me humble.😱
After Paris was liberated Parisians rounded up all the women that slept with the Nazis. They shaved their heads publicly and then put them on the back of horse wagons and military vehicles and paraded them through town. It's been done for centuries. You can see video footage of women being punished for sleeping with the Nazis on the internet.
What I heard about was branding prostitutes in a very visible place to shame them. I feel like that happened during the monarchy era, cutting the hair seems a more civil penalty that branding someone with hot iron. Hair grows after all but this ladies probably were not wealthy enough to afford a wig so indeed still passed shame.
I always wonder why the ladies were punished and not their clients, if there is no demand for certain service this will cease to exist.
They did the same to women who had slept with German soldiers after WW2.
A truly fascinating creature who made her own rules throughout life. How wonderful after being traumatised so horribly that she could find the generosity to sponsor female writers and artists and support them.
She’s like the ghost of Meghan Markle. Except, prettier.
Mary Magdalena was a working girl and her company was good enough 4 Jesus's but not good enough 4 you I suppose.Such is the pretentious life of a so called religious individual to talk the talk but not walk the walk. Jesus's went where he was most required to heal those who had the most spiritual lessons to learn. God doesn't judge us until the end of our days and yes I am a chosen one so I will be going where he has guided me to go.
Mary Magdalene was a sinner trying to repent, you saying Jesus had no problem being in her company is an extremely poor choice of words. God's door is open for anyone who repents, no matter how big a sinner, but they should be willing to repent, as long as they don't and consider their ways as correct, there is absolutely nothing pretentious about calling it a sin.
The image about 5 minutes in looks a bit like Natalie Portman. Quite striking.
As an artist myself, I spend a good portion of my income as a patron of other artists. It’s a wonderful feeling knowing that I’m playing a part in making their dreams come true, and in return I receive some lovely art and illustrations that inspire me daily.
She was a testament of taking a painful horrifying experience to commanding her own life by using her brains and her beauty. She made her own wealth by manipulating the weaknesses of men. She influenced other women to take control in a similar manner.
You never take control of that and you just spiral further into self-abuse and that is what this woman was doing. Of course I could be wrong
Such interesting stories, well presented and respectful to the subject. It's great to see the lesser known people, but they're just as much a part of the greater story. Keep up the good work. 💝
Will do, thanks very much!
@@ForgottenLives truly so insightful and professional and considerate of the human condition and struggle
One of my very favourite “Forgotten Lives”. Fabulous her connection with the painters and her fostering of women in the arts.
Thanks very much!!!
I love that she supported women in the arts, once she had reached her own goals and wealth. I find her so relatable, as her assault changed her life. She got her revenge so perfectly, by the same sex that had all the rights and power over women. She found their Achilles Heel, massaging it into success for herself. She was no victim! Her later support of women really illustrates her consciousness over such matters. I have to applaud her, and you, for highlighting the use of adversity and injury towards successful resolution. In her shoes, I very likely would have done the same thing.
You have a marvelous gift for finding such interesting ladies! I would want you to write my story some day, as it has been as though I lived 9 lives, yet no one would know how far reaching the effects have been, nor could they find out.
Thank you for another wonderful presentation! 🧝♀️
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And as a woman who knows,I'd bet that even though it was long ago,a different era,I bet alot of these men she was with were probably sexual deviants of some kink/nasty tastes,fancy disgusting acts ,it is so with Many wealthy men,they're alone for good reasons that regular women won't get far enough to find out!lol
Isaiah 35:5,6
Psalm 37:29
Revelation 21:3,4
I Loved the movie " Cheri " with the exquisite Michelle Pfeiffer. If you are interested in this era it is a must watch. I think it is so important to bring attention to the fact that alot of these women were victims of sexual assault which leads to a lack of sexualising boundaries and more abuse until they heal from the trauma. Before judging these women we need to understand the men who damage these women are vicious predators and are the perpetrators in society.
Chéri was written by Colette born 25 years after this woman was born...
This reminds me of "Nana", written by Emile Zola.
Should have listened until the end!
2 Timothy 3:1-5
❤ So very good to see you. I look forward to your analysis and your stories, they’re always heartfelt and delivered with such grace and style.❤
Thank you so much! :)
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Such a fascinating life she lived. Spot on research and sources, as always.
Thank you. Another thoroughly enjoyable video, you handle your subjects with such sensitivity and respect, and there is a depth of research which is fascinating and again I love your spot on foreign pronunciation it’s a joy to hear.
Thank you! Glad you mentioned what became of her daughter. Happy New Year!
Thank you for your good work. Could you do a feature on the Holy Birgitta, Sweden´s first female saint, who lived in the Middle Ages, became a nun and lectured a pope?
Thanks! And I'llbe sure to look into her!
Such a fascinating personage! Excellent job, FL!
Thank you! Cheers!
a girl came from a humble background but lived a brillant life✨️
Hope you're doing well this New Year. Love your vids!
Happy new year! Thanks 😊
Awesome vids my man
Appreciate it!
That was fantastic. Very hard life, but so resilient. She reminds of Liz Hurley in the thumbnail there☘️
YES you're right, couldn't place it but that's it.
I truly do love all of your videos. I’ve watched them all. You do a wonderful job with your research and it always makes for interesting profiles of your subjects. Wishing you a wonderful and successful new year!! ❤
Wow, thank you so much!!
That is a very poetic death notice! Brava!!
Thanks for sharing the best. Happy new year 🎊
Happy new year! And thank you 😊
This channel is growing so fast! I remember when you had just hit 10k. 🤯 you deserve the growth! I thought this vid was going to be about a sickly monarch 😂😂 nice title and vid!!
I thought the same about the title, he sure likes to surprise us, I love these vids so very much! :)
Oh! Your first Live Stream and I missed! Sorry FLives, I fall asleep early here... Listening to you now at 11:50pm
Thank you for this amazing video.
Happy New Year to you and yours 🎊💥
Thanks as usual Elke! Hope all is well :)
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You are welcome! Awesome story amazing narration! Thank you, i'm getting there... Good night.
really enjoyed this one!! thank you for this lovely video, i love the variety of subjects you manage to find.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I’m so happy I found your page.. I LOVE history and your voice is calming to my heart❤
Great video! I read a fantastic book on her, The Mistress of Paris. Highly recommend, incredibly well researched. But getting to see the pictures here really added to her story.
So interesting! Thank you. This story would make a great mini-series.
Imagine your bed being in a museum.
Hi Henry,
I always love your work , and especially when you look into the Belle Epoch!
I'm always looking forward to the next courtesan. Could she be...
La Presidente? Alice Ozy? Mogador? Caroline Letessier?
Uh oh... maybe you did her already.
So many interesting stories.
Happy New Year!
I suppose she was continuing in the grand tradition of Madame de Pompadour the glamorous mistress of Louis XV in the eighteenth century.I think it was Frederick the Great of Prussia who commented that France was ruled by petticoats at that time.
Wonderful videos always!
Glad you like them!
That was my first time catching one of your videos at the premier. As always a great story.
It was the first premiere I've done! Glad you made it on time :)
She, along with the characters of Violetta in La Traviata and Mimi in La Boheme are the inspiration for Baz Lurhmann's Satine "The Sparkling Diamond" in Moulin Rouge. Her hair is red like Satine's. Very well done biography again! ;)
Always interesting and informative.
Thank you
Peace 💕🇺🇲
Wow. That was a great story. Keep up the good work
Good story even better images
Another great case from Forgotten Lives like always this an incredible channel
Love this glad she didn’t forget her daughter
Fabulous as always.
As always very interesting. Many thanks!
Thanks for the upload. Another excellent story
as usual, excellent work, dedicated, smart and sympathetic
Very interesting, thank you.
FASCINATING. amazing work!
Very interesting - thank you! The “Belle Epoque” was far from “Beautiful” in many ways!
She made the most of the lust rich men had for her.
I enjoyed the replay of your livestream video, it was very intriguing. Great investigating, presentation and historical information, as always. Congratulations, on your first livestream.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for the support 😊
Sad life.
Seems like she really couldn’t love anyone for long not even her own children Money ruled in her heart, vanity and male conquests. Sad really
Love this channel.
You made my day. 🎉🎉Happy New Year🎉🎉
Happy new year!! And really glad to hear it!
Thanks for the informative video
Too bad she didn't extend her "wealth and generosity" to her own daughters, abandoning them and leaving one to die from neglect. She was too busy with her own fame.
Sounds like the model for Violetta Valery in La Traviata, but Dumas actually based it on another lady. Difficult life she fought to overcome as best a woman could in that day.
Wow. What a life. I was wondering what happened to her daughter. Thanks for letting us know, I assume she inherited her mother's property and art
I was wondering the same. Did a quick Wikipedia and it only mentions the daughter being married. Had 3 kids and 1 of them was Andree Rose Godard. She used the name Andree de la Bigne sometimes. Died in 1989.
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Wikipedia is notoriously unreliable. I'm sure it might be helpful as a springboard, but people are too reliant on such a dubious source of often unsupported information.
@@Dee8Beebut thank you. 🙃 Have a Happy New Year!
I find it fun that her lover, Offenbach wrote the music we associate with the Can Can. He was older than she. I enjoyed The Mistress of Paris by Catherine Hewitt.
I imagine that bedstead to blush a ruddy shade as the mortise and tenon joinery is stressed to breaking.
Can you do a video about Ann Cooper Hewitt, the forcibly sterilized heiress? Love your intro, too. It's elegant and eerie at the same time.
I loved this story thank you for the upload!
Fascinating! Thanks for sharing this
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for the interesting biography
That bed is gorgeous. I love it.
She was an interesting women...I am so happy to have watched this.
Great video thanks , glad I found you .
Thanks for watching!
I ain't sayin she's a gold digger...
Very interesting! I would have liked to have a focus on her relationship with her daughter thru her mid-thirties and onward.
Great as always
Thank you! Cheers!
Very interesting story. Did her daughter become a famous actress? What happen to her daughter?
Thanks, Happy New Year
Happy new year!
Brilliant Story Telling ❤
I love stories like this-something that could have ended her life became her revenge. Awesome, though the story itself is obviously tragic, but not a tragedy.
What a Queen, may she rest in money
Isn’t the photo at 15:09 supposedly the first photograph of a person, the man in the bottom right?Great episode!
2:26 and yes. Shoe shine station.
Fascinating biography
Very interesting - thank you!
My pleasure!
How wonderful was the Belle Epoche !
What a Life the charming Lady lived ~
She became Bold ~ 'couse she was knowing how to handle wealthy Men ~
She was intellektuelle ~
full of Esprit
She was building her own Monument ~ and changed the Face of France and Sun Solaire ~
She produced her " Ego May she RIP ~ after all her Adventures ~
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Wow that was amazing! Fantastic!
That's a really nice bed.
Isola means Island...
The poor child lost her sister and was then sent away by her mother. It wasnt a case that she couldn't look after her child, she chose not too. Disgraceful.
Very interesting thank you
She reminds me a bit of Satine from moulin rouge the movie... The film even took place in the same era.
Material for a French film---to be accepted at Canne?
Where is everyone from? DIMBOOLA in Victoria, Australia.
Did her daughter live a happy life? Did she inherit her mother’s estates?
Early Kardashian
Thank you.
Sumptuous and delicious, but we expect no less from Forgotten Lives
Thanks
Why those mans so pathetique
And this, kids, is where the verb "to binge" comes from.
Wait. Umm. Sorry. I misread that name.
So many lost people
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Where can I find her obituary in French?
This was interesting.
How and when you find one....
Such a sad life,all those men but no true love.
The history story is wonderful. The French pronunciations so so.
Considering he seems to be British I’m sure he’s doing his best. There’s so much about the French language that is difficult for English speakers because of how different the mouth shape and tongue placement are. Or so my bilingual friends tell me
From emily all the way to nina simone and many more dragged for their existence and yet they're still spoken about to this day ..........
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