You touched on a very important point there: nice is not a problem, it's also desirable. But whereas a strong, galant (nice) hero is attractive, on the other hand a weak, insecure, expression of "nice" is a turn-off. A whiney puppy groveling at your feet begging for your attention is just...uh, icky. It's manipulative and makes a woman feel like he needs us to build him up and make him feel like man. Sorry, you'd better own your own manly feelings. The kindness from a strong protector that comes from a place of confidence is attractive.
Problem for women is they don’t know what that really is. They love falling for narcissists and end up in toxic interactions that they won’t even understand even into marriages. I knew a girl who acted like I was a puppy yet she was obvious to her mentally fragile behavior and I was kind to her. She ended up with a narcissist who trauma a bonded her and doesn’t get it. So women’s arrogance of knowing what a man is and assuming one is failing as a man ends up ruining their lives because they didn’t have the patience to be humble. Think about it, how screwed up does someone have t be to say the biggest flaw and turn off for them was “he was too nice to me”. Yikes
@@heythere6983 And what about all the men who fall for narcissist women who use them for money, while avoiding the good women who care for them and respect them? The world is full of flawed confused people of both genders. But your stereotyping of women shows clearly how lonely, miserable and incapable you are of forming a satisfying relationship with another human being. With such an attitude like that of blaming the opposite sex, you will never find happiness in life. I pity you.
So is better to go for the piece of shet that portays himself as a good person than the nice guy thats a bit weaker ? If so thab stfu and dont complain when he cheats in you when he r***s you etc ....
False femininity, especially false kindness amongst women runs rampant too, and it is disgusting. And maybe the surge of it in the past decades to centuries is what has prompted the false "nice" man stereotype to surge with it. It seems logical as the first is the disguise, the derivation of a fundamentally gendered virtue whereas the second is the same but for a very secondary one when it comes to attraction and relationships. I would not be able to say for know what may have prompted this motion in women. The rope may have come a long way from the other side of the manhole, maybe even it has been running in circles, and maybe it has since the dawn of Man. I can promise you it is both disturbing and highly repulsive to see the all-encompassing taint of sickly yellow covetous greed, holing up in the eyes of a girl, passionately hiding behind the mask of purposefully empty and false sweetness, compassion and empathy. And it can be hard to decipher because these darkly dissociated girls, usually regularly feel empathy, but solely and only for themselves, or what makes them remember themselves, what they feel they can impregnate, as who they are always fade away to nothingness gradually during the process.
Look, Woman Believes in kindness and empathy when its directed tô her and probably from a person who she admire. Other than that, Woman dont offer real empathy towards man, only empty word words. Also, they only have SOME EMPATHY towards kids but not to all OF them. When things go sideways, its ALL the others fault. Its the Friend in the Workplace who was a bad Company só she got fired... ALWAYS some excuse to not bê accountable for her behaviour. Só, Man that use Woman as commodities Just see the word like most (but not ALL) Woman see. I usually try to not disrupt things and bê on the girls slide If needed but yeah. It os what It is.
You sparking like a brain washed man. As a woman I can say that he might have his data but he's reading it wrong. Women only like do not like bad boys because they are dad. It's because they are brave and strong .Women look for protection and provision. They don't want to tame the beast .They just want to control the beast power so they can feel safe .
But ordinary looking men and women may have charisma and knowledge. the humble side of personality creates a charisma. or also the goodlooking people may have this humility charisma. Humility is like a minimalism, it creates great space in mind and in life. But humility at the same times isnt about not going on beautiful vacation, humility actually gives you oportunity to enjoy the vacation, and nice stuff, because practicing humility and minimalism will wash away all the junk from your mind created by media television etc.
I think the central truth that is perverted by the archetypes is we want to be desired and protected. Part of protection is being lead which is why we seek men more successful than ourselves
The want to be desired and protected is rooted in archaic narcissism. Not reality though. Same with success being a leadership measure. That's just hypergamy. Also rooted in narcissism with always wanting more or to better than the others.
@thepope9023 dearest, I am not sure if you have noticed that the vast majority of women are smaller and weaker than the vast majority of men. It was a need to be protected and being willing to trust your protector is essential or you make things difficult for them and they may decide to give you up. It was in more primitive might makes right societies a necessity. I assume you are male and are oblivious to the vulnerability a woman feels. That you confidently assert that vulnerability makes us tend to seek safety is evidence of narcissism proves your own self centered view of reality.
It's strange that there IS some truth to all of this. When I used to be a surgeon, women would constantly fawn over me. But then my psychiatrist said I needed a license to do that. And now I'm just regular lonely me 🙁
Dr. Peterson is right about the Beauty & the Beast dynamic. Most women are taught subconsciously through fairy tales or by their attachment style, that they have to earn love. What could be more rewarding and exhilarating than making the most unresponsive, unloving person choose them? That this, act of being chosen will miraculously make up for every time their parents or others did not make them a priority.
Nah. It's because Chads have so many choices that they don't know what vag!na to pick.. so a woman thinks she has to work hard to earn a man's love. The same way ugly men work hard to try to win a woman's heart which never happens
A man connected to his own soul, stands up for something, and has some moral fibre does it for me. More complex manifestations of desire move into the territory of fantasy…it’s like a toy… it’s fun and great but doesn’t compare to what the requirements and basic needs are
You're pretty near the archetype. Its just depending on what you stand up for? Your personal freedom, love for nature, traveling around and being you to the fullest? You're of the pirate type Staying up for health, care of others, precicivness and being studious? Surgeon Standing up for yourself in terms of achievements, money, status and your business within society and norms? Billionaire type Standing in for fame, parties, having a big castle etc but secretly being a freak at night, that lives of the energy of others? Vampire
Weakness is appalling; it is corruption, the truest and (ironically) the most potent evil of nature. And it is weakness, the rotting from within (perhaps made inevitable by the 2nd law of thermodynamics), that will doom us all.
I agree, its evil and cowardly, I can physically do lots but I don't need it to b me. I hate bullies and was bullied, but learned boxing, got confidence and now that I love God im unstoppable. My girlfriend/kid sister type taught me a lot about being real,aka 100%of the time being myself. She was taken from me but she was a true friend and a big Big drug addict who never was mean or fake, thats my friend cassie. Lots of times she told me about guys she leads on for money. She was crazy from crack, heroin, but sober was really good at drawing. Mike from Florida
I agree with your comment and would add that Christ overcame that entropy, spiritual and physical with His resurrection. He is the ultimate form of "Man". And with Him protects and brings others with Him back up.
The St. George example was really good "your power is a path to virtue, it's not an obstacle to virtue if you use it correctly". A powerful man does not have to be a bad or evil man. Because the men that women like just look like bad boys, they look evil because they're powerful and dangerous. But really, in every story, the bad boy isn't truly bad, he's good on the inside, and it's the woman's duty to bring out that good in him. That's her feminine power. And so the reason why so many girls like reading these wattpad stories is because it's the woman who captures this powerful man with her beauty and innocence alone. And she helps him use his power to be the hero, to pursue good. Look at Vampire Diaries for example, why did everyone ship Damon with Elena? Damon was meant to be the bad guy all dressed in black, an evil vampire who is not afraid to kill. He is stronger because he drinks human blood. But the audience wanted Elena to find the good in him, and harness that power.
Question for Jordan: How do you know when you are identifying with your beliefs & thoughts. How do you relax the ego that attaches to these thoughts or beliefs. Therefore, leaving you in place that you can stand up for your beliefs but not take it personally. Therefore, being able to love your enemies as different from you. Mastering your mind as mind.
Had the same question for a while. The solution for me was gainig confidence and stopping continuos self doubting (still in the process actually). When you are certain about your competence and your beliefs you are not afraid to debate them. Hope it's an helpfull insight.
Simple. He knows many truths (facts if you will) thus believes firmly in their validity, THUS knows what to do or say in a particular situation. It's also what people call it "being aware". Being aware of the many things happening around you and how some things may not be as they seem which you attain through life experience. It's also why mommy and daddy always seem to know what's best for you and why you should respect your elders. Knowledge or better yet wisdom is power, never forget that.
I am interested to see if this finding is the case cross-culturally, including those living in woodlands and "off grid"... or is it only for those dwelling in city/suburban built civilisations? If not, maybe the archetypes are similar in a more nature-oriented manner rather than a city/suburban-oriented one. I'm interested to do more research into it. Truly fascinating and eye-opening.
definitely believe it's cross-culturally and historically the case since there are so many tales or what not of these types of archetypes, thus concluding it's in our nature.
Men, do not hesitate for one moment to put a restraining order against your female partner if you feel your safety and health is in jeopardy. Placing a permanent restraining order on my female ex-partner was absolutely the wisest protective move of my adult lifetime. My only regret is not doing it years earlier. Men, be safe!
@@Spractral Please explain what is "weird" about advocating for men's health and safety. Petersons audience is largely young men... the most vulnerable for the scenario I warn against... being at the mercy of a system biased against men. I think you need to reconsider your inaccurate statement and be grateful you are not in the clutches of a legal system biased against men. Men, be safe!
Find good mentors and have some honor throughout your day. Choose battles wisely and when you fall, get up, you'll have people laugh and you'll fall again, but you just get up again and fight like a warrior. Let the women drop the handkerchief in front of you, let them choose and just do the best you can do and focus on your goal(s) and honor.
Extreme traits may be appealing in fantasy or short-term attraction, humanity’s survival relies on a broader set of values-like cooperation, compassion, and emotional intelligence-which tend to shape long-term relationships and ensure societal stability
Success with women is about being able to.. separate the genuine from the trash, arouse the woman you want, understand her vulnerabilities and what she needs to grow as a person, empower her and lead her by example.
Why on Earth are there so much works to do to get just a normal genuine human being? What does a woman do in her side to grow up? If I were a man, I’d rather give up than have do that much responsibilities which originally belongs to her parents and herself. 😂😂😂
Underneath a secure/strong man there can be a handsome guy that the fact of being handsome, let him built a facade of the first two atributes but fundamentally he would need to prove that besides his appareance (which socially gave him advantages) is not a harmless flower.
When women indulge in fantasies of pirates, it's Jack Sparrow from Pirates of the Caribbean who embodies their desires, not Blackbeard with flies nesting in his beard
This is your strength prof. Psychology. Women. Politics around that. Give that eighty percent of your attention, even if it’s only twenty percent of you! Give twenty percent of your attention to the rest of the eighty percent of you. Don’t block people on Twitter too much.
Why should he limit himself merely because of the attention he gets for spcific topics rather than spend his time of what he find interesting and useful? I am not saying the interest of the audience is of no importance but i am sure he will calibrate his output to what he deems appropriate well enough on his own. Did he block you on Twitter?
@@Humanaut. JP is just out of his league when he talks about stuff he doesn't know about, which diminishes his legacy when he's already such an extreme expert at things relating to psychology. No point in giving ammunition to his opponents or making himself more hated than he already is.
3:29 No, women just aren't prone to lying. So we tend to believe the act no matter how ridiculously over compensating it is. And we don't typically believe that somebody who claims to have feelings for us is going to lie straight to our face
This has got to be a troll post there's no way that you genuinely believe that women are not geared towards lying. Especially when it comes to attracting a mate and forming a relationship.
Both men and women have the capacity to lie, I would assume, it’s not all on women. Both want to impress to get the one they want and think is most suitable.
woman lie so much more than men it’s not even a contest. they just call it ‘doing what it takes to get their way’ so they don’t feel bad about doing it
This explains my attraction to "monster men". These "monster men", like Michael Myers, Nemesis from Resident Evil, Dracula, The Joker, The Phatom of The Opera, represent an ultra masculine archetype that triggers a primal desire deep inside of me. Carl Jung talks about this in his book called "Becoming The Monster: A Jungian Analysis of Monster Erotica, and The Acceptance of The Animus Through The Shadow." Soft men are a major turn off. I don't like a man who is a lapdog and has no confidence and assertion.
Whenever I hear Dr. Peterson speak about this, I always have a question. Is the literary porn that women are searching for something that all women search for, or is that what is searched for by women who have a poor or no romantic relationship with a man? Likewise for men. If you looked at the porn search results for men, is that what majority of men are interested in, or is that what interests the men that need to look at porn because they are not romanticaly involved with a woman? I would hate to strive to be something I hear women desire, only to find out that it's what the women who are less likely to be in a successful relationship desire.
You can get some insight by looking into romance novel statistics. From one site: ~80% are women, the majority between 18-54. ~60% are married or living with a partner. Regardless, you probably shouldn't start working to become a werewolf or pirate.
There's no good visual porn for woman, its so hard to find something actually good, plus, personality adds a lot of points to the attraction, i watched a lot of shows where I didnt think anything of the "handsome guy" at first and then as the episodes go by im like "damn hes handsome" cause of his personality (and appearance ofc), porn doesnt care much about personality but wattpad fics make me cringe so f me i guess
I’m engaged after a 4 year relationship (getting married in October, we were waiting for financial security). I believe a very happy and fulfilling relationship both sides. I personally didn’t feel comfortable with anything too “spicy “, but I certainly read romantic novels, and still do on occasion to wind down after stressful patch, everything is always just and the good guy/girl wins in the end. What I’d share is consumption goes down but not type, while in a successful relationship. This is representative across friends I’ve spoken with, regardless of the “spicy ness “ of the book. Which would suggest the archetype stands for the majority. I’m actually living the archetype story in some ways which amuses me, my fiancé used to be have issues, as did I. We both helped each other grow, both strong in different ways, and I think that’s what the stories share, helping each other grow into our best and complete selves.
A Woman should Look for a man, who just knows what he wants and goes for it. Should have a high moral and show responseability. A woman will decide, if she wants to share these goals.
Eh. Married to an agressive man who i know can and will protect me. His problem is that he doesnt know how to shut off that aggression with me and it has ruined our relationship . I will take the nice guy anyday.
I don't really agree with a lot of what you're saying my female bully was very unpopular when I was in primary school she had no friends until she convinced me and some of my friends to give her a chance. She only really managed to start making friends in secondary school and then she'd fall out with a lot of them too.
you misunderstood the point to be honest. He’s not talking about popular like “oh everyone wants to be them or hang around them” it’s the popular of that everyone is aware of you and knows you you are. Context.
1 Affection. Despite what media tells you.. men long for tender affection, love and support. This is often confused/misconstrued with sex. But to men its alot more than just sex. Everyone has taken this away from us but its true. A real man doesnt walk a soft path and so we long for a soft touch. 2 Loyalty. A good man is a loyal man. Loyalty is becoming more and more rare. The divorce rate is over 50% and a mans biggest fear is being alone. The justice system is very biased against men and this can be very scary for a real man thats worth his salt. Most men have a lot to lose when stepping into a marriage or a relationship. Trust is the foundation. 3 Beauty. The media would have you believe men are pigs and all they care about is a hot body. However its so untrue. A vibrant charismatic women is beautiful. A big genuine smile is beautiful. It's not a mystery that women are attracted to men with money because the money solves alot of problems. So a guy throwing money around can be very attractive to a woman and honestly that's okay. Its not a mystery that a woman that can cook/clean/nurture that has a big smile and exudes positivity and support is extremely beautiful to a man because it solves a lot of problems. I hope this helps... it was from the heart. Men are not as horrible as everyone makes it seem. Alot of men are out here treating money like a cheat code. Keep in mind most men driving sportscars and big trucks and spending all this money on outfits and jewelry are actually broke as fuck and cant even afford this shit. We only do it to impress women. Men are incredibly stupid we will do anything to impress you. Dont be fooled by shiny things. 90% of the time its all a lie. We just cant help ourselves. It doesnt make us horrible people.
What is funny about this is that Peterson says, "The Google boys a while back, the engineers, they did an analysis of women's use of pornography, men's too ..." Really? Seriously? That is what Google boys use their time for? Who uses pornography. How about child porn? How about traders of sex slaves. I think that their is probably a hundred better ways to use work time and monitor people than monitoring adults and their porn. And why is this even a concern to grown men?
Pornography has long been the number one use of the Internet. (Happens to be followed closely by genealogy.) Porn accounts for so much commerce $$$. Why wouldn't they be studying the trends? The study wasn't for Peterson's purpose. Those findings just happen to be interesting in Peterson's realm of sociology. 🤷♀️ They weren't doing it for forensic reasons either.
@@eetoved1758 As of April 2024, the most common reason people use the internet is to find information, with about 60% of users citing this as their primary motivation. Other common uses include: Staying in touch: Keeping in touch with friends and family is the second most popular reason people use the internet. Watching media: Watching videos, TV shows, or movies is the third most popular reason. Sending and receiving emails: Nearly 92% of internet users send and receive emails. Using search engines: 89% of internet users use search engines to find information. Using social media: Nearly 75% of US internet users access social networks, and globally, 62.6% of the population has an active social media account. According to Google's AI
@@geemail369 Yes I noticed the sound change as well. I was wondering about it. Perhaps it’s my eyes impacting my ears. I’ll admit, that may be a problem.
Most surgeons have a psychopath traits to be able to cut open people and see people’s flesh and bones. To most people that would be gross and nerve wrecking to do. Psychopaths can work under those conditions because their natural calm.
Calling Tate a baffoon and a terrible person demonstrates just pure ignorance, and a willingness to cast judgement on what is clearly an ill-informed mainstream opinion, but I appreciate Jordans attempt to give balance to that point. For even more balance, the Tates are extremely competent and intelligent people and have repeatedly shown commendable virtues that this man would likely appreciate if only he wasnt so quick to believe coordinated smeer campaigns.
What do all those architypes have in common? They don't worship women, they are on their own mission and woman want to catch a man that is so mission driven that he is not interested in them, and then the woman gets consumed with trying to do so, so they leech away that mans power. It's the Eve complex.
So we become chameleons to win the beauty...and then what? Are we willing to do what it takes to acquire the character to keep her? Bullying your wife will always end badly.
You shouldn't have to be trying to "keep" someone who swore vows in front of everyone to be loyal to you til death. This is exactly why men don't take marriage seriously anymore -- the woman can just break her vows 20 years into it, for any reason.
You touched on a very important point there: nice is not a problem, it's also desirable. But whereas a strong, galant (nice) hero is attractive, on the other hand a weak, insecure, expression of "nice" is a turn-off. A whiney puppy groveling at your feet begging for your attention is just...uh, icky. It's manipulative and makes a woman feel like he needs us to build him up and make him feel like man. Sorry, you'd better own your own manly feelings.
The kindness from a strong protector that comes from a place of confidence is attractive.
Problem for women is they don’t know what that really is. They love falling for narcissists and end up in toxic interactions that they won’t even understand even into marriages.
I knew a girl who acted like I was a puppy yet she was obvious to her mentally fragile behavior and I was kind to her. She ended up with a narcissist who trauma a bonded her and doesn’t get it.
So women’s arrogance of knowing what a man is and assuming one is failing as a man ends up ruining their lives because they didn’t have the patience to be humble.
Think about it, how screwed up does someone have t be to say the biggest flaw and turn off for them was “he was too nice to me”. Yikes
@@heythere6983 And what about all the men who fall for narcissist women who use them for money, while avoiding the good women who care for them and respect them?
The world is full of flawed confused people of both genders. But your stereotyping of women shows clearly how lonely, miserable and incapable you are of forming a satisfying relationship with another human being. With such an attitude like that of blaming the opposite sex, you will never find happiness in life. I pity you.
So is better to go for the piece of shet that portays himself as a good person than the nice guy thats a bit weaker ? If so thab stfu and dont complain when he cheats in you when he r***s you etc ....
False femininity, especially false kindness amongst women runs rampant too, and it is disgusting. And maybe the surge of it in the past decades to centuries is what has prompted the false "nice" man stereotype to surge with it. It seems logical as the first is the disguise, the derivation of a fundamentally gendered virtue whereas the second is the same but for a very secondary one when it comes to attraction and relationships. I would not be able to say for know what may have prompted this motion in women. The rope may have come a long way from the other side of the manhole, maybe even it has been running in circles, and maybe it has since the dawn of Man.
I can promise you it is both disturbing and highly repulsive to see the all-encompassing taint of sickly yellow covetous greed, holing up in the eyes of a girl, passionately hiding behind the mask of purposefully empty and false sweetness, compassion and empathy.
And it can be hard to decipher because these darkly dissociated girls, usually regularly feel empathy, but solely and only for themselves, or what makes them remember themselves, what they feel they can impregnate, as who they are always fade away to nothingness gradually during the process.
Look, Woman Believes in kindness and empathy when its directed tô her and probably from a person who she admire.
Other than that, Woman dont offer real empathy towards man, only empty word words. Also, they only have SOME EMPATHY towards kids but not to all OF them. When things go sideways, its ALL the others fault. Its the Friend in the Workplace who was a bad Company só she got fired... ALWAYS some excuse to not bê accountable for her behaviour.
Só, Man that use Woman as commodities Just see the word like most (but not ALL) Woman see.
I usually try to not disrupt things and bê on the girls slide If needed but yeah. It os what It is.
The more people suppress their instinct and bend their will to fit some social contagion, the less happy they are.
The man who is not capable of violence is doomed to suffer by the man who is.
Nope, you've got it wrong. Man has to be assertive and powerful in a woman eyes, the ways to be are different.
You sparking like a brain washed man. As a woman I can say that he might have his data but he's reading it wrong. Women only like do not like bad boys because they are dad. It's because they are brave and strong .Women look for protection and provision. They don't want to tame the beast .They just want to control the beast power so they can feel safe .
The man who is smaller is doomed to be not as tall as the man who is taller!
Men capable of violence often die of violence.
These comments indicate ignorance on the very subject on which I speak.
Great chemistry between the two!
“Down mean streets a man should go, whence, he himself, is not mean!”
Haha LIKE
But ordinary looking men and women may have charisma and knowledge.
the humble side of personality creates a charisma.
or also the goodlooking people may have this humility charisma.
Humility is like a minimalism, it creates great space in mind and in life.
But humility at the same times isnt about not going on beautiful vacation,
humility actually gives you oportunity to enjoy the vacation, and nice stuff,
because practicing humility and minimalism will wash away all the junk from your mind created by media television etc.
I think the central truth that is perverted by the archetypes is we want to be desired and protected. Part of protection is being lead which is why we seek men more successful than ourselves
The want to be desired and protected is rooted in archaic narcissism. Not reality though. Same with success being a leadership measure. That's just hypergamy. Also rooted in narcissism with always wanting more or to better than the others.
@thepope9023 dearest, I am not sure if you have noticed that the vast majority of women are smaller and weaker than the vast majority of men. It was a need to be protected and being willing to trust your protector is essential or you make things difficult for them and they may decide to give you up. It was in more primitive might makes right societies a necessity. I assume you are male and are oblivious to the vulnerability a woman feels. That you confidently assert that vulnerability makes us tend to seek safety is evidence of narcissism proves your own self centered view of reality.
@@thepope9023 it's normal for women to have the desire to feel protected by their man, what narcisism are you talking about?
@@pprsstvz 'about them'
@@pprsstvzmaybe narcissistic if they want those things without being able to be a nurturing mother to children or gentle as a home keeper.
Instructions unclear I am now the captain of the Black Pearl
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😂😂😂😂 Goodness!
It's strange that there IS some truth to all of this. When I used to be a surgeon, women would constantly fawn over me. But then my psychiatrist said I needed a license to do that. And now I'm just regular lonely me 🙁
Lol.
What do you mean you need a license to do that?
Underrated comment
Good one 😉 lol
@@eugenerider0701 his a murderer
My archetype is a silverdaddy Canadian psychology professor 🥴
I feel sorry for you..good luck in life, u Will need it
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Same 👍
Please don’t use the word daddy in a sexual context.
Like we need anymore fboiz round here 😂😮 kik roxxx son
So a vampiric , billionaire werewolf pirate . Do I also have to look like Brad Pitt or can I pass as shrek
If you're a billionaire Shrek will do
You can be Shrek but she's going to look like Shrek too.
@@saltycat662 ur mom look like shrek
😂😂😂😂😂😂
As long as you have confidence, Shrek can pull whomever.
I am very irritated at being rendered somewhat predictable. Bravo. Good interview.
lmao
the "somewhat" is fun in both ways
Dr. Peterson is right about the Beauty & the Beast dynamic. Most women are taught subconsciously through fairy tales or by their attachment style, that they have to earn love. What could be more rewarding and exhilarating than making the most unresponsive, unloving person choose them? That this, act of being chosen will miraculously make up for every time their parents or others did not make them a priority.
great analogy!
The beauty and beast fairytale book he was super kind to her from the start he was never angry or mean
Nah. It's because Chads have so many choices that they don't know what vag!na to pick.. so a woman thinks she has to work hard to earn a man's love. The same way ugly men work hard to try to win a woman's heart which never happens
THIS! Great comment.
A man connected to his own soul, stands up for something, and has some moral fibre does it for me. More complex manifestations of desire move into the territory of fantasy…it’s like a toy… it’s fun and great but doesn’t compare to what the requirements and basic needs are
You're pretty near the archetype. Its just depending on what you stand up for?
Your personal freedom, love for nature, traveling around and being you to the fullest? You're of the pirate type
Staying up for health, care of others, precicivness and being studious? Surgeon
Standing up for yourself in terms of achievements, money, status and your business within society and norms? Billionaire type
Standing in for fame, parties, having a big castle etc but secretly being a freak at night, that lives of the energy of others? Vampire
Weakness is appalling; it is corruption, the truest and (ironically) the most potent evil of nature. And it is weakness, the rotting from within (perhaps made inevitable by the 2nd law of thermodynamics), that will doom us all.
I agree, its evil and cowardly, I can physically do lots but I don't need it to b me. I hate bullies and was bullied, but learned boxing, got confidence and now that I love God im unstoppable. My girlfriend/kid sister type taught me a lot about being real,aka 100%of the time being myself. She was taken from me but she was a true friend and a big Big drug addict who never was mean or fake, thats my friend cassie. Lots of times she told me about guys she leads on for money. She was crazy from crack, heroin, but sober was really good at drawing. Mike from Florida
I agree with your comment and would add that Christ overcame that entropy, spiritual and physical with His resurrection. He is the ultimate form of "Man". And with Him protects and brings others with Him back up.
I don’t know. It’s actually people in power who bring the most suffering to the world like the wealthy and politicians.
Yep I like men who will protect me.
You won’t know that’s true until the fake alpha male show dissolves infront of your face when he’s faced with a real challenge
@@heythere6983 well some people have enough experience to assess others personality through their interaction with them. Not everyone is that naive...
Nah, how You can Even tell who's gonna protect You and who won't?
Mafia boss has been a the most popular theme as of late in our romance book circles
You don't have to be the bad guy, but you have to be willing to be.
More like capable to be the bad guy but willing to be kind.
@@archanvaya5520 yeah
I say you can be the fun guy.
Cope
I liked his presentation of that study more, when he was on stage 🙂 and cracking jokes-really fit this theme, and he improvised, with Tammy on board.
The St. George example was really good "your power is a path to virtue, it's not an obstacle to virtue if you use it correctly". A powerful man does not have to be a bad or evil man. Because the men that women like just look like bad boys, they look evil because they're powerful and dangerous. But really, in every story, the bad boy isn't truly bad, he's good on the inside, and it's the woman's duty to bring out that good in him. That's her feminine power. And so the reason why so many girls like reading these wattpad stories is because it's the woman who captures this powerful man with her beauty and innocence alone. And she helps him use his power to be the hero, to pursue good.
Look at Vampire Diaries for example, why did everyone ship Damon with Elena? Damon was meant to be the bad guy all dressed in black, an evil vampire who is not afraid to kill. He is stronger because he drinks human blood. But the audience wanted Elena to find the good in him, and harness that power.
Suit stripes say, “Clean Your Room?”
yeah!
Question for Jordan: How do you know when you are identifying with your beliefs & thoughts. How do you relax the ego that attaches to these thoughts or beliefs. Therefore, leaving you in place that you can stand up for your beliefs but not take it personally. Therefore, being able to love your enemies as different from you. Mastering your mind as mind.
Had the same question for a while. The solution for me was gainig confidence and stopping continuos self doubting (still in the process actually). When you are certain about your competence and your beliefs you are not afraid to debate them. Hope it's an helpfull insight.
Simple. He knows many truths (facts if you will) thus believes firmly in their validity, THUS knows what to do or say in a particular situation. It's also what people call it "being aware". Being aware of the many things happening around you and how some things may not be as they seem which you attain through life experience. It's also why mommy and daddy always seem to know what's best for you and why you should respect your elders. Knowledge or better yet wisdom is power, never forget that.
Lesson: be dangerous or be lonely!
My serotonin levels fall while listening to him
I am interested to see if this finding is the case cross-culturally, including those living in woodlands and "off grid"... or is it only for those dwelling in city/suburban built civilisations? If not, maybe the archetypes are similar in a more nature-oriented manner rather than a city/suburban-oriented one. I'm interested to do more research into it. Truly fascinating and eye-opening.
I think you will find some form of it cross culturally. Not a perfect one-for-one, but similarities.
definitely believe it's cross-culturally and historically the case since there are so many tales or what not of these types of archetypes, thus concluding it's in our nature.
Men, do not hesitate for one moment to put a restraining order against your female partner if you feel your safety and health is in jeopardy. Placing a permanent restraining order on my female ex-partner was absolutely the wisest protective move of my adult lifetime. My only regret is not doing it years earlier. Men, be safe!
Kinda weird this is the top comment but ok
@@Spractral Please explain what is "weird" about advocating for men's health and safety. Petersons audience is largely young men... the most vulnerable for the scenario I warn against... being at the mercy of a system biased against men.
I think you need to reconsider your inaccurate statement and be grateful you are not in the clutches of a legal system biased against men.
Men, be safe!
@@mgu1N1n1 nah I'm good
damn dude, if I may know, what happened?
I must be weird to be fantasizing about a good man who comes home from work with a bouquet of flowers and says I love you...
The question is, what's his job ;)
The question is do u rly want that subconsciously? Might suprise u how many guys will be happy to do so. Let it be known
The first time I was with a girl she whispered and asked if I was a werewolf lol. So, I think Peterson is right about this one
Lesson: become pirate
Werewolf pirate
😂😂😂
A literal one, or will illegally streaming my sports do?
Agree. From northern Alberta.
Very interesting, thank you.
Find good mentors and have some honor throughout your day. Choose battles wisely and when you fall, get up, you'll have people laugh and you'll fall again, but you just get up again and fight like a warrior. Let the women drop the handkerchief in front of you, let them choose and just do the best you can do and focus on your goal(s) and honor.
Extreme traits may be appealing in fantasy or short-term attraction, humanity’s survival relies on a broader set of values-like cooperation, compassion, and emotional intelligence-which tend to shape long-term relationships and ensure societal stability
This is so good!
Success with women is about being able to.. separate the genuine from the trash, arouse the woman you want, understand her vulnerabilities and what she needs to grow as a person, empower her and lead her by example.
Why on Earth are there so much works to do to get just a normal genuine human being? What does a woman do in her side to grow up? If I were a man, I’d rather give up than have do that much responsibilities which originally belongs to her parents and herself. 😂😂😂
🙌🏽🙌🏽 and you only need one woman!
Lead by example
arouse?
Wow, I would say that's quite true.
Underneath a secure/strong man there can be a handsome guy that the fact of being handsome, let him built a facade of the first two atributes but fundamentally he would need to prove that besides his appareance (which socially gave him advantages) is not a harmless flower.
When women indulge in fantasies of pirates, it's Jack Sparrow from Pirates of the Caribbean who embodies their desires, not Blackbeard with flies nesting in his beard
Yup, regardless of whatever fantasy she has, it always has something to do with a pretty boy.
Or Han Solo
You would be surprised
Did you know that Tyson Fury was voted by women the sexiest athlete alive over the likes of Ronaldo, Brady, and Joshua?
@@Littlemangoneinsaneno he wasnt. Where ever you got this, its 100% wrong.
Sure, maybe when I was 15. I prefer.the visual.
@CJRelationshipConsulting what's your deal? lol
Best reality show EU
Werewolf Pirate? He gets it.
Naruto: "Am I a joke to you?"
Fifty shades of grey😂 7:47
This is your strength prof.
Psychology. Women. Politics around that.
Give that eighty percent of your attention, even if it’s only twenty percent of you!
Give twenty percent of your attention to the rest of the eighty percent of you.
Don’t block people on Twitter too much.
Why should he limit himself merely because of the attention he gets for spcific topics rather than spend his time of what he find interesting and useful?
I am not saying the interest of the audience is of no importance but i am sure he will calibrate his output to what he deems appropriate well enough on his own.
Did he block you on Twitter?
@@Humanaut. JP is just out of his league when he talks about stuff he doesn't know about, which diminishes his legacy when he's already such an extreme expert at things relating to psychology. No point in giving ammunition to his opponents or making himself more hated than he already is.
@@Amorphous_SandYes, he’s pretty mediocre when he starts talking about climate change, economics, Israel, and international politics in general.
He or his assistants blocked me on IG when I suggested he talks to Norman Finkelstein.
@@Amorphous_Sand
Agreed.
Along with Dexter and 50 Shades of Grey, I would also list Netflix's show You.
manly men 🌹⚜
3:29 No, women just aren't prone to lying. So we tend to believe the act no matter how ridiculously over compensating it is.
And we don't typically believe that somebody who claims to have feelings for us is going to lie straight to our face
This has got to be a troll post there's no way that you genuinely believe that women are not geared towards lying. Especially when it comes to attracting a mate and forming a relationship.
@@shouldntbepublic2925 or she's lying to us haha
Both men and women have the capacity to lie, I would assume, it’s not all on women. Both want to impress to get the one they want and think is most suitable.
woman lie so much more than men it’s not even a contest. they just call it ‘doing what it takes to get their way’ so they don’t feel bad about doing it
women are insane prone to lying lmao
I fully belive on this shit😂😂I saw that in my EX
This explains my attraction to "monster men". These "monster men", like Michael Myers, Nemesis from Resident Evil, Dracula, The Joker, The Phatom of The Opera, represent an ultra masculine archetype that triggers a primal desire deep inside of me. Carl Jung talks about this in his book called "Becoming The Monster: A Jungian Analysis of Monster Erotica, and The Acceptance of The Animus Through The Shadow." Soft men are a major turn off. I don't like a man who is a lapdog and has no confidence and assertion.
Lack of self awareness is tragic
Ladyhawke • I'll Stand By You • The Pretenders
Idk about anyone here but I am looking for a man after God’s own heart…❤
That’s the right thing !
Yes, me too.
But he was a fearless rascal. Impregnating another man's wife and then killing the man
Yeah but I think that desire, for many, might be based in trauma or emotional neglect.
6:37 I mean, why? Didnt the girls want to work for him?
I just visualized a millionare pirate-werewolf-vampire doing a surgery.
Women love a big one.....that is, a big check book
I DID NOT EXPECT A FEMALE VOICE
But this video was so spot on. Thank you. I have subscribed
All those archetypes have to be PSL gods , that's the kicker😂
Whenever I hear Dr. Peterson speak about this, I always have a question. Is the literary porn that women are searching for something that all women search for, or is that what is searched for by women who have a poor or no romantic relationship with a man?
Likewise for men. If you looked at the porn search results for men, is that what majority of men are interested in, or is that what interests the men that need to look at porn because they are not romanticaly involved with a woman?
I would hate to strive to be something I hear women desire, only to find out that it's what the women who are less likely to be in a successful relationship desire.
You can get some insight by looking into romance novel statistics. From one site:
~80% are women, the majority between 18-54.
~60% are married or living with a partner.
Regardless, you probably shouldn't start working to become a werewolf or pirate.
Please don't actually become a pirate or a werewolf 😅
Just look at all the married women who read or went to see 50 Shades of Grey.
There's no good visual porn for woman, its so hard to find something actually good, plus, personality adds a lot of points to the attraction, i watched a lot of shows where I didnt think anything of the "handsome guy" at first and then as the episodes go by im like "damn hes handsome" cause of his personality (and appearance ofc), porn doesnt care much about personality but wattpad fics make me cringe so f me i guess
I’m engaged after a 4 year relationship (getting married in October, we were waiting for financial security). I believe a very happy and fulfilling relationship both sides.
I personally didn’t feel comfortable with anything too “spicy “, but I certainly read romantic novels, and still do on occasion to wind down after stressful patch, everything is always just and the good guy/girl wins in the end.
What I’d share is consumption goes down but not type, while in a successful relationship. This is representative across friends I’ve spoken with, regardless of the “spicy ness “ of the book.
Which would suggest the archetype stands for the majority.
I’m actually living the archetype story in some ways which amuses me, my fiancé used to be have issues, as did I. We both helped each other grow, both strong in different ways, and I think that’s what the stories share, helping each other grow into our best and complete selves.
A Woman should Look for a man, who just knows what he wants and goes for it. Should have a high moral and show responseability. A woman will decide, if she wants to share these goals.
you are right
women should ask, is he a redeemable beast?
Eh. Married to an agressive man who i know can and will protect me. His problem is that he doesnt know how to shut off that aggression with me and it has ruined our relationship . I will take the nice guy anyday.
instructions unclear: I bought duck tape and rope
Beware of the werewolf pirate.....he'll steal your girl
Power, violence, arbitrary gene's. Summed up.
It was over when men started using lotions and perfumes.
Tate a genuinely tough guy???? Best joke I've heard in years 😆
Was going to watch this until I saw Andrew
I can’t be bothered with them anymore.
There isn’t a single thing that’s unforgivable. Jesus isn’t gonna say, “nope, not this guy!”
What is electronic pimping?
I don't really agree with a lot of what you're saying my female bully was very unpopular when I was in primary school she had no friends until she convinced me and some of my friends to give her a chance. She only really managed to start making friends in secondary school and then she'd fall out with a lot of them too.
you misunderstood the point to be honest. He’s not talking about popular like “oh everyone wants to be them or hang around them” it’s the popular of that everyone is aware of you and knows you you are. Context.
Vampire Billionaire that used to be a pirate...
But he's 5'6"
Sometimes the lower man, can be the best??
❤❤
What are men actually attracted to
1 Affection. Despite what media tells you.. men long for tender affection, love and support. This is often confused/misconstrued with sex. But to men its alot more than just sex. Everyone has taken this away from us but its true. A real man doesnt walk a soft path and so we long for a soft touch.
2 Loyalty. A good man is a loyal man. Loyalty is becoming more and more rare. The divorce rate is over 50% and a mans biggest fear is being alone. The justice system is very biased against men and this can be very scary for a real man thats worth his salt. Most men have a lot to lose when stepping into a marriage or a relationship. Trust is the foundation.
3 Beauty. The media would have you believe men are pigs and all they care about is a hot body. However its so untrue. A vibrant charismatic women is beautiful. A big genuine smile is beautiful. It's not a mystery that women are attracted to men with money because the money solves alot of problems. So a guy throwing money around can be very attractive to a woman and honestly that's okay. Its not a mystery that a woman that can cook/clean/nurture that has a big smile and exudes positivity and support is extremely beautiful to a man because it solves a lot of problems.
I hope this helps... it was from the heart. Men are not as horrible as everyone makes it seem.
Alot of men are out here treating money like a cheat code. Keep in mind most men driving sportscars and big trucks and spending all this money on outfits and jewelry are actually broke as fuck and cant even afford this shit. We only do it to impress women. Men are incredibly stupid we will do anything to impress you. Dont be fooled by shiny things. 90% of the time its all a lie. We just cant help ourselves. It doesnt make us horrible people.
facial beauty, youth, purity, sweetness, humbleness, stability, loyalty
shyness and submission are generally favored as well...
Just being honest that is one handsome guy. Wish I looked like him.
What is funny about this is that Peterson says, "The Google boys a while back, the engineers, they did an analysis of women's use of pornography, men's too ..." Really? Seriously? That is what Google boys use their time for? Who uses pornography. How about child porn? How about traders of sex slaves. I think that their is probably a hundred better ways to use work time and monitor people than monitoring adults and their porn. And why is this even a concern to grown men?
Um
Ummm....
Pornography has long been the number one use of the Internet. (Happens to be followed closely by genealogy.) Porn accounts for so much commerce $$$. Why wouldn't they be studying the trends?
The study wasn't for Peterson's purpose. Those findings just happen to be interesting in Peterson's realm of sociology. 🤷♀️ They weren't doing it for forensic reasons either.
@@eetoved1758 As of April 2024, the most common reason people use the internet is to find information, with about 60% of users citing this as their primary motivation. Other common uses include:
Staying in touch: Keeping in touch with friends and family is the second most popular reason people use the internet.
Watching media: Watching videos, TV shows, or movies is the third most popular reason.
Sending and receiving emails: Nearly 92% of internet users send and receive emails.
Using search engines: 89% of internet users use search engines to find information.
Using social media: Nearly 75% of US internet users access social networks, and globally, 62.6% of the population has an active social media account. According to Google's AI
I am a surgeon!
Doesnt matter what women are attracted to, see the bigger picture, enojoy your life
"to fix him" / "reveal his good side" is all massive cope in my estimation
Definitely
Get a top microphone set prof.
Airpods not good enough for RUclips and podcasts.
Sorry
It doesn't sound like airpods, His mic is probably off screen. Go off your ears, not your eyes.
Hes using the ear pods for his own audio
Audio sounds perfectly fine how it is
@@geemail369
Yes I noticed the sound change as well. I was wondering about it. Perhaps it’s my eyes impacting my ears. I’ll admit, that may be a problem.
I just pick women who don't read. 😂
Don't really get Surgeon but okay
Most surgeons have a psychopath traits to be able to cut open people and see people’s flesh and bones. To most people that would be gross and nerve wrecking to do. Psychopaths can work under those conditions because their natural calm.
Yeah…I think it’s my feminine side which likes the Frazetta girls, female comedians, and those goddamned chicken nuggets!
Sounds like a Nietzschean argument about Master and slave amorality.
Is this the man who called Candace antisemitic?
Oh the coolest girls in public all watch the most embarassing cheesy "shows.
Like Klaus from originals say to caroline
I got you ,Love .I got you.
Tall dark and handsome, rich and powerful or dangerous
This is literally the opposite of my type, had it, got over it now I LITERALLY find this trope repugnant
@@mariannehavisham8323 you had your fun now its time to settle down 😂😂
@@marcoslightspeed5517yep. She got railed by these guys and now she wants a nice soft guy who carries her
@@marcoslightspeed5517yup she wants the be*a mal* now to take care of her.
2:25 and then women complain about the "patriarchy" abusing them 😂😂 what a load of hypocrite rubbish 😂
This is stereotyping to another level..
You obviously have never heard of nuance!
Does art imitate life or does life imitate art?
That's old and tired, it is clear as day...life came first so ...life creates art to imitate life, either as we wish it or as it is
Art must imitate life to be impactful.
Both
Our personal decisions that culminate in life happening around us come from the same unconcious realms that inspire art
Where are these girls that like the werewolf?
Calling Tate a baffoon and a terrible person demonstrates just pure ignorance, and a willingness to cast judgement on what is clearly an ill-informed mainstream opinion, but I appreciate Jordans attempt to give balance to that point. For even more balance, the Tates are extremely competent and intelligent people and have repeatedly shown commendable virtues that this man would likely appreciate if only he wasnt so quick to believe coordinated smeer campaigns.
Yeah but they also openly support a lot of idiotic ideas, you don't have believe the propaganda about them to dislike them.
But, you know, why the female should always be the "beautiful"?
Malcolm X was a pimp and burglar so I disagree with Jordan’s last take. Doesn’t take 20 years.
Damn women’s standards are way too high these days
What do all those architypes have in common? They don't worship women, they are on their own mission and woman want to catch a man that is so mission driven that he is not interested in them, and then the woman gets consumed with trying to do so, so they leech away that mans power. It's the Eve complex.
Oh God. And it’s not April 1st.
Hyperbole
"If you can make her laugh and giggle you can make them cheeks clap and jiggle." - T--rash
So we become chameleons to win the beauty...and then what? Are we willing to do what it takes to acquire the character to keep her? Bullying your wife will always end badly.
You shouldn't have to be trying to "keep" someone who swore vows in front of everyone to be loyal to you til death. This is exactly why men don't take marriage seriously anymore -- the woman can just break her vows 20 years into it, for any reason.
Honestly, who even cares about this? Focus on making money, helping people in your community, serving God. Ignore all these internet merchants.
Scroll along.
I do. I've literally been alone most of my life.
and die virgin or having barely any sex while idiots get girls left and right, yeah
Bro i am trying to what Jesus did in his life on earth for the sake of my waifu.. Not God..
hmmm any sin can be forgiven. although yes what tate has done is not good at all.
First! 😏
Andrew Tate & electronic pimping? What’s Jordan talking about?
He lost me with that one!