man rip kurt cobain. I was born 4 years after he died but I feel such a strong connection to him and his music. I learnt so much about myself and the way I feel inside by listening to nirvana.
It's funny hip hop depending on the artist has influence from different subgenres of rock. Travis Scott has a real grunge rock feel while Uzi got pop punk sound and you can even say that Kid Cudi is alternative rock.
Huncho, jack jack, huncho was a step backwards for Travis in the sense of deviating from the norm by falling into the forgetful structures of migos lesser work
I feel what you're saying. There were definitely some good tracks but we know they could have done better. Their collabs before this album were spectacular and they have good chemistry. But this album was hella rushed and should have been taken more seriously.
If we're equating Travis' rap to Nirvana's impact on rock, then we have to say Cudder is The Pixies to Travis and his sonic impacts on pop music currently. Let it happen. Nothing great can plateau. This was a topic I've discussed with many friends. Swell concept!
The thing is that DG is not mainstream appeal as Kanye so the thing is that what he made was mixing a mainstream sound with the industrial hip hop and i think that that is important.
I get what he is trying to say Travis Scott Brings The Trap , Grunge Music/Aesthetic To A Worldwide Audience Without Going Into Either Lane Too Much And That’s Dope Travis Scott Is Expanding The Genre Unlike Any Other Artist Today With His Style , Live Preforming and Even Collabs That Have Been Dropping He Really Is A Ring Leader/Trail Blazer In Today’s Scene
@@spearmintlatios9047 Yup the first time I listened to it I was like this guy humming at the end of the song sounds like Kevin Parker and it turns out that it's really him, I was SOO SHOCKED
I enjoyed the shit out of this video. A lot of people don't "get" Nirvana, you clearly do. Most people focus on superficial things like "grunge" or whatever and how the media characterized Nirvana. You kept it about the music and you represented how Kurt Cobain saw himself and what he was trying to accomplish with his music. A lot of people today lump Nirvana together with a bunch of bands Cobain hated, but you correctly put their place in music history in it's proper context, they were just three guys who loved punk rock and made loud aggressive catchy brilliant honest music. It blows me away to see the influence Kurt Cobain had on my generation. I was born the year he died and I relate to the connection other people had with his music, despite never being able to see him live. His influence gives me hope in the future of music.. hopefully we stop making music that sounds like it got made on a MacBook Pro that all has the same boring and sterile sound and get back to making raw high energy emotionally evocative music. I watch Nirvana live with my laptop on my chest and headphones in from time to time.. you watch those guys perform a song like Breed or Teen Spirit or Territorial Pissings live and it just makes me thing "this is what music should be" like it's just self expression in it's purest form.
While I do think the Rap/Hip-Hop is entering a punk rock phase I doubt that the Genre really splits like rock did. I think the way everyone is connected really prevents this. Plus the overall culture of Hip-Hop. Which I do think is actually a good thing.
It is not a better Live performer currently that is for sure. Experiencing his Performances live it is UNREAL! Salute to Travis he is on another planet compared to most of these current artist
Look PNL in France : the most listened trap / rap music in France is made by them, and they are 100% by-themselves, no label since the beginning, no interview, no nothing but they still manage to be n°1 in France
I love old school hip hop and grew up on it but when hip hop artists from before say hip hop artists of today are ruining it and its dying just sound like old grandfathers who say "music was better in my day" makes them sound outdated!
Interesting take. I'm a hip hop purest and I love meaningful lyrics. But as far as the new generation I have to say Travis Scott is the best as far as mainstream. To his credit he's actually is a good rapper not an emcee but a good rapper. His production is very good. You can hear a bit of the boom bap sound of the 90s. Yes hip hop has changed especially within the last 5 yrs or so. Yes we've had ground breaking artist to come out before then but not a full movement. Mainstream rap was at stalemate for like a decade. Now the mumble rap scene in opinion isn't good music but at least it's different. So yeah you can say hip hop is at its punk stage but remember punk didn't last because it lacked alot of substance for the exception of a few bands like bad brains for example. But I believe travis scott will be the only one that will be left standing when this period comes to an end because he's not a mumble rapper he's a rapper a good one at that.
Travis Scott is not on the same wavelength as Nirvana. Nirvana had emotion, great modulations/arrangements, great musicianship. It’s very cool that Travis is a fan of them, and he sounds like a pretty cool guy for sure, but it stops there. Much of that music just falls flat… and I am a guy who loves rock and hip hop.
my dude. Nirvana isn't responsible for comercializing punk rock. That can be attributed to bands like the ramones and green day. Nirvana came after punk rock had for the most part died down in popularity.
I disagree with your comment on punk and accessibility, punk in it's core is very accessible, I mean, listen to the ramones, you are born already knowing blitzkrieg bop
Not hating, but you are talking about travis scott and his music and essence being like punk rock. But I think the one that started this trend is kid cudi. Kid cudi definitely embodies more of nirvana than travis
Sid Vicious is his idol and he can’t name one other punk band? I don’t want to judge Travis or question his authenticity, but that doesn’t make sense to me.
lmao yea. "i just like music" ok dude. if someone plays me a song and i fuck with it, especially if its a genre im not accostumed to play, i will at least ask for the name. do some research to find more. then again, he might be talking about kurt's ideology.. like pac wasnt necessary the best rapper but as a person.. ya know where im going with this
this commentator has it twisted hiphop has never fetishized the past but always had respect for it.. if it’s the African drum or jazz & soul. ... Punk is inherently chaos and doesn’t care for the future... If dominant culture (popular hiphop) is becoming a combination of the two.. that’s fine... a hybrid but to say that is hiphop is not factual. In the same breath you could say this is the new punk, but no you rather sped up the demise of another form of black music that’s seen better days.
right but their were punk bands that were being melodic that were being more introspective that's why the emo subgenre started or post punk bands like joy division the stooges? all bands that were huge
Yall are killing the rock image. It's not all about image. It's about the sound. And yes he does play hip hop. Nirvana is grunge rock. Hip hop is always hip hop with different lyrical styles.this is just fucking sad.
Rap is not the same as rock in any way whatsoever. It's a lyrical art and rock and roll type genres are a world apart focusing on the instruments and the melodies harmonies and the FOCUS on the GUITAR!!!! Not the image the sound and how it's made bebeh. Everybody wants to be a rockstar but nobody these days in the mainstream and RAP is not rock. Dont lie and act like you know music genres you dont listen to and have no comprehension nor appreciation for. The rock image was a lifestyle, the music was it's own.
You’re very focused on the music and not what it represents in its historical context. I listen to both genres and am familiar with what punk represented and how it was received by many people. My own father, who grew up listening to the clash, sex pistols, black flag, circle jerks etc. has compared modern hip hop to the punk movement. It’s clear that popular hip hop is taking a step away from the industry standard and becoming a lot more diy the way punk rock had rebelled against rock. So I don’t think it’s that much of a stretch to compare this stage of hip hop to the punk revolution of the late 70’s on.
The thing is you can rebel and try to innovate and not follow trends but the Music has to be Exceptional it has to be great , it has to be undeniable across the board , unfortunately i don't hear that with Travis Scott , kid cudi touched it with Day n nite and the Pursuit of Happiness, and 1 or two other songs but he would have had to maintain that same level thorough out which he hasn't.I would say currently Kanye west holds the crown creatively within the last 10 yrs .. We are due for a big shift within the next couple of years . I feel that the current popular production 808 style with 16th note hihats is becoming stale .The music is essentially a 4 bar loop Arranged into a full song , it is lazy and uninspired , the bar is set low production wise. And even though The lyrics are melodic they lack depth , wit, sarcasm , irony , message , ect . Unlike Nirvana Travis Scott lacks many of those quality's in his music as well as all of his Trap peers. Travis has a lot of work to do to even be mention in the same breath musically with what Kurt and Nirvana did and Meant to their generation . I am not Buying .
so how come people are not calling travis scott in people like him culture vulture i get it because there black i thought we was fighting for equality why wont we call out black artist out just like the white ones
punk melodies were challenging " lol wut? punk melodies are like 3 notes def not challenging. If you mean in the pure unadulterated energy coming from the tracks sure but not from melodies and kurt cobain wasn't rly that inspired by punk he was more into indie raw rock stuff like dinosaur jr, sonic youth, neil young.
Listening to rock music doesn't make you a rockstar. Being the star of a badass rock band does. Rapstar's are a thing though. Also Nirvana isnt fucking punk.
Nybius Is Lost Kurt Cobain considered his music closer to New Wave than anything, but also admitted that Nirvana would be put in the “punk” and “grunge” box. But he never felt a part of either genre. These genre titles are just created by the media. I don’t really agree with it, but it is what it is
They never said he was punk. They were explaining how he didn’t really like how punk couldn’t be more melodic. He basically brought melody to punk which kinda created grunge
THIS IS A STRETCH . THERE IS NO CONNECTION BETWEEN TRAVIS SCOTT & NIRVANA . JUST BECAUSE TRAVIS WEARS MULTIPLE NIRVANA TEE SHIRTS , DOESN'T MEAN THAT HE DOES ROCK MUSIC OR IS A ROCK STAR .
Travis Scott is on a different level than other artists today
Travis and the Weeknd
kevinsmusic true
Everything famous isn't dope
It's cool as shit I get more Noisy and he gets to secure the bag at the same time.
man rip kurt cobain. I was born 4 years after he died but I feel such a strong connection to him and his music. I learnt so much about myself and the way I feel inside by listening to nirvana.
It's funny hip hop depending on the artist has influence from different subgenres of rock. Travis Scott has a real grunge rock feel while Uzi got pop punk sound and you can even say that Kid Cudi is alternative rock.
WLR by Carti Lmaooo
Idk why this video was so amazing. Made me love Travis even more
Travis scott hase one of the creative minds in the rap game ever
luhtevin 160 has
He got great beats but that's it. Can't for get the adlibs.
How tf you misspell has..
He used to... Listen to Huncho Jack and you'll see the Trav we all loved is long gone
luhtevin 160 His music is dark and interesting
Huncho, jack jack, huncho was a step backwards for Travis in the sense of deviating from the norm by falling into the forgetful structures of migos lesser work
watch out for falling rocks facts
watch out for falling rocks def True. But I feel like He’s saving his energy, lyricism, creative mind for astroworld
FOR REAL
I feel what you're saying. There were definitely some good tracks but we know they could have done better. Their collabs before this album were spectacular and they have good chemistry. But this album was hella rushed and should have been taken more seriously.
Tbh that collab kinda reminded me of old Travis. Especially when he was spitting them bars on Best Man.
If we're equating Travis' rap to Nirvana's impact on rock, then we have to say Cudder is The Pixies to Travis and his sonic impacts on pop music currently. Let it happen. Nothing great can plateau.
This was a topic I've discussed with many friends. Swell concept!
Noisy always borders opinion and pure fact that keeps that conversation going
You're right.... Nirvana was one of my favorite bands growing up...
in 20 years travis scott,kanye west and kendrick lamar will be iconic artists
they already are
Just in time for the new collab album
Eddy Croitoru was quite underwhelming, you can tell Quavo’s team took over majority of the project
One word: yeezus.
That is all.
more likely "Death grips"
Tru !
PRAB noooooo
The thing is that DG is not mainstream appeal as Kanye so the thing is that what he made was mixing a mainstream sound with the industrial hip hop and i think that that is important.
Best album of the last 10 years. facts
I get what he is trying to say Travis Scott Brings The Trap , Grunge Music/Aesthetic To A Worldwide Audience Without Going Into Either Lane Too Much And That’s Dope Travis Scott Is Expanding The Genre Unlike Any Other Artist Today With His Style , Live Preforming and Even Collabs That Have Been Dropping He Really Is A Ring Leader/Trail Blazer In Today’s Scene
I really dig psychedelic vibe in his music man, no surprise that he loves Tame Impala
Have you heard skeletons on his newest album? Its a collab with tame impala and it slaps
@@spearmintlatios9047 Yup the first time I listened to it I was like this guy humming at the end of the song sounds like Kevin Parker and it turns out that it's really him, I was SOO SHOCKED
Thank u for saying the truth people don't wanna admit. Speedin bullet isn't as bad as people make it out to be
Elias Cruz I loved it. Don't care
just in time for huncho jack, greafcollab damnnn
is there an ashtray around here somewhere
what a legend
I enjoyed the shit out of this video. A lot of people don't "get" Nirvana, you clearly do. Most people focus on superficial things like "grunge" or whatever and how the media characterized Nirvana. You kept it about the music and you represented how Kurt Cobain saw himself and what he was trying to accomplish with his music. A lot of people today lump Nirvana together with a bunch of bands Cobain hated, but you correctly put their place in music history in it's proper context, they were just three guys who loved punk rock and made loud aggressive catchy brilliant honest music. It blows me away to see the influence Kurt Cobain had on my generation. I was born the year he died and I relate to the connection other people had with his music, despite never being able to see him live. His influence gives me hope in the future of music.. hopefully we stop making music that sounds like it got made on a MacBook Pro that all has the same boring and sterile sound and get back to making raw high energy emotionally evocative music.
I watch Nirvana live with my laptop on my chest and headphones in from time to time.. you watch those guys perform a song like Breed or Teen Spirit or Territorial Pissings live and it just makes me thing "this is what music should be" like it's just self expression in it's purest form.
While I do think the Rap/Hip-Hop is entering a punk rock phase I doubt that the Genre really splits like rock did. I think the way everyone is connected really prevents this. Plus the overall culture of Hip-Hop. Which I do think is actually a good thing.
When "GOOSEBUMPS" started i got goosebumps i swear
oh my gawd whut a beat in the background :o
Long live rock
It is not a better Live performer currently that is for sure. Experiencing his Performances live it is UNREAL! Salute to Travis he is on another planet compared to most of these current artist
travis Scott is an absolute genius. He is on a different level with the MUSIC from every other hip hop artist out today.
If there's one artist who has REALLY been fully influenced by Yeezus and 808s and Heartbreak combined, it's Travis Scott.
Lmao he wrote & produced on yeezus
Giles Peterson U kno Travis The mind Behind Yeezus right?
travis is a genius, he is wayy ahead of his time!
Yo the cartoons of Travis in this video are sick af
Look PNL in France : the most listened trap / rap music in France is made by them, and they are 100% by-themselves, no label since the beginning, no interview, no nothing but they still manage to be n°1 in France
fucking love these videos so well put together and scripted keep it up!💜
if u think about it, besides kanye, travis was the first to incorporate melody into trap music and make great songs
y’all did such a good fucking job man!
punk rock and hip hop are like cousins
Exactly I listen to both.
They were developed right next to each other, so makes sense.
Rathanak's Life yup in nyc
All def music. The new underground of SOUNDCLOUD rap is intertwining with metal
@The Most Unruly, another deeply satisfying and educational essay.
Just as brilliant as part 2! I'm a huge Travis fan and I made the correlation myself as well
He's really on a different level
I don't think this video aged well, nowadays Travis is more like the 'KISS' of hip hop
kiss > nirvana, so
I love old school hip hop and grew up on it but when hip hop artists from before say hip hop artists of today are ruining it and its dying just sound like old grandfathers who say "music was better in my day" makes them sound outdated!
Interesting take. I'm a hip hop purest and I love meaningful lyrics. But as far as the new generation I have to say Travis Scott is the best as far as mainstream. To his credit he's actually is a good rapper not an emcee but a good rapper. His production is very good. You can hear a bit of the boom bap sound of the 90s. Yes hip hop has changed especially within the last 5 yrs or so. Yes we've had ground breaking artist to come out before then but not a full movement. Mainstream rap was at stalemate for like a decade. Now the mumble rap scene in opinion isn't good music but at least it's different. So yeah you can say hip hop is at its punk stage but remember punk didn't last because it lacked alot of substance for the exception of a few bands like bad brains for example. But I believe travis scott will be the only one that will be left standing when this period comes to an end because he's not a mumble rapper he's a rapper a good one at that.
Great minds think alike
I’d say he’s more like Hendrix
Are there transcripts available for these Noisy Images videos?
Amazing video I idolize Travis Scott so much. I promise you he will change hop hop forever!!
Travis Scott is not on the same wavelength as Nirvana. Nirvana had emotion, great modulations/arrangements, great musicianship. It’s very cool that Travis is a fan of them, and he sounds like a pretty cool guy for sure, but it stops there. Much of that music just falls flat… and I am a guy who loves rock and hip hop.
Wow, this video spoke my mind.
my dude. Nirvana isn't responsible for comercializing punk rock. That can be attributed to bands like the ramones and green day. Nirvana came after punk rock had for the most part died down in popularity.
ramones and green day? Nah dude.
Technically they made it mainstream the other ones didn’t inspire the entire music industry plus Green Day wouldn’t have been big without nirvana
Love the series
They have the same type of philosophy for their genre but they are not the same.
I disagree with your comment on punk and accessibility, punk in it's core is very accessible, I mean, listen to the ramones, you are born already knowing blitzkrieg bop
Travis is the GOAT
XXXTENTACION is are generations Kurt Cobain I'm sorry......but it's a FACT.
🔥🔥🔥too interesting
this a good asf video
great video
Uhhhh Death Grips?
Many points were true. But lyrics arent even close to punk or grunge scene in the 80's and 90's.
How is it that you have more subs than views?
That's the case with most channels.
sick
Not hating, but you are talking about travis scott and his music and essence being like punk rock. But I think the one that started this trend is kid cudi. Kid cudi definitely embodies more of nirvana than travis
Spoke too soon LOL
Sid Vicious is his idol and he can’t name one other punk band? I don’t want to judge Travis or question his authenticity, but that doesn’t make sense to me.
lmao yea. "i just like music" ok dude. if someone plays me a song and i fuck with it, especially if its a genre im not accostumed to play, i will at least ask for the name. do some research to find more. then again, he might be talking about kurt's ideology.. like pac wasnt necessary the best rapper but as a person.. ya know where im going with this
And now we have ksg cudi montage with Kurt cobain. Full circle.
Whats the beat that starts after 0:06
Holmes 206 yeah what is it guys? That one as well as the next one
Travis is the one
We need Travis and Kanye Collab
this commentator has it twisted
hiphop has never fetishized the past but always had respect for it.. if it’s the African drum or jazz & soul.
... Punk is inherently chaos and doesn’t care for the future...
If dominant culture (popular hiphop) is becoming a combination of the two.. that’s fine... a hybrid but to say that is hiphop is not factual.
In the same breath you could say this is the new punk, but no you rather sped up the demise of another form of black music that’s seen better days.
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🤟🔥🔥🔥🔥
right but their were punk bands that were being melodic that were being more introspective that's why the emo subgenre started or post punk bands like joy division the stooges? all bands that were huge
Yall are killing the rock image. It's not all about image. It's about the sound. And yes he does play hip hop. Nirvana is grunge rock. Hip hop is always hip hop with different lyrical styles.this is just fucking sad.
Is their an ash tray around some where 😂😂
That was so funny
speeding bullet 2 heaven is such a great album
I knew mf's would be elevating it in a few years
YES
Louis Gregoire I can't listen to it when I'm happy I gotta b really fucked up to enjoy it
strongly agreed
Facts
My dreams will be presented in the most creative ways possible, I prømise.
Don’t know what you’re talking about but, I believe in you!
is Lil Dicky narrating ?? sounds like him
Who was Kurt Cobain’s Kid Cudi? Who laid the groundwork for Nirvana?
the hardcore genre, kurt was open with is influences, mudhoney, pixies, sonic youth, etc.
melvins
The Pixies
What's the song/beat that starts at 7:34 to the end??
Rap is not the same as rock in any way whatsoever. It's a lyrical art and rock and roll type genres are a world apart focusing on the instruments and the melodies harmonies and the FOCUS on the GUITAR!!!! Not the image the sound and how it's made bebeh. Everybody wants to be a rockstar but nobody these days in the mainstream and RAP is not rock. Dont lie and act like you know music genres you dont listen to and have no comprehension nor appreciation for. The rock image was a lifestyle, the music was it's own.
You’re very focused on the music and not what it represents in its historical context. I listen to both genres and am familiar with what punk represented and how it was received by many people. My own father, who grew up listening to the clash, sex pistols, black flag, circle jerks etc. has compared modern hip hop to the punk movement. It’s clear that popular hip hop is taking a step away from the industry standard and becoming a lot more diy the way punk rock had rebelled against rock. So I don’t think it’s that much of a stretch to compare this stage of hip hop to the punk revolution of the late 70’s on.
Kurt Cobain with the Clout Glasses
Travis Scott is the Kurt cobain of our time imo he is really popular but also really alternative musically.
Hip Hop will always exist. This is only the rise of a subgenre.
rap is getting into its punk phase
punk is a way of thinking very similar to hip hop they are like cousins
The thing is you can rebel and try to innovate and not follow trends but the Music has to be Exceptional it has to be great , it has to be undeniable across the board , unfortunately i don't hear that with Travis Scott , kid cudi touched it with Day n nite and the Pursuit of Happiness, and 1 or two other songs but he would have had to maintain that same level thorough out which he hasn't.I would say currently Kanye west holds the crown creatively within the last 10 yrs .. We are due for a big shift within the next couple of years . I feel that the current popular production 808 style with 16th note hihats is becoming stale .The music is essentially a 4 bar loop Arranged into a full song , it is lazy and uninspired , the bar is set low production wise. And even though The lyrics are melodic they lack depth , wit, sarcasm , irony , message , ect . Unlike Nirvana Travis Scott lacks many of those quality's in his music as well as all of his Trap peers. Travis has a lot of work to do to even be mention in the same breath musically with what Kurt and Nirvana did and Meant to their generation . I am not Buying .
Let’s not sit here and act like Lucki isn’t the Kurt Cobain of our generation
JORDAN GROCERYS lucki talented af and definitely underrated but nah
Rap has been rock for 3-4 years now
Did all def music like my comment?
Its sad that he has to beg for openhandedness in the intro when all hes ding is presenting a well thought out idea
so how come people are not calling travis scott in people like him culture vulture i get it because there black i thought we was fighting for equality why wont we call out black artist out just like the white ones
hes nothing like kurt cobain.. no one ever will be
punk is coming out in rap
There is a unique genre of punk&rap.. but umm Travis being the next Kurt??? Dont hurt yourself from reaching too much...
6:24
I can understand where you come from in terms readjusting the standard for the genres. Having said that
This is wildly inaccurate
sooo truuee, watch $uicideboy$ blow up soon
They did not
punk melodies were challenging " lol wut? punk melodies are like 3 notes def not challenging. If you mean in the pure unadulterated energy coming from the tracks sure but not from melodies
and kurt cobain wasn't rly that inspired by punk he was more into indie raw rock stuff like dinosaur jr, sonic youth, neil young.
I think he means that they challenged the normal, not an actual testement to difficulty
Has anyone here actually listened to any punk rock bands or any real rock bands at all? Doesnt sound like it.....
hopefully he don't kill himself
zillakami
Post Malone is the closest modern day Kurt Cobain.
Listening to rock music doesn't make you a rockstar. Being the star of a badass rock band does. Rapstar's are a thing though.
Also Nirvana isnt fucking punk.
Nybius Is Lost Kurt Cobain considered his music closer to New Wave than anything, but also admitted that Nirvana would be put in the “punk” and “grunge” box. But he never felt a part of either genre. These genre titles are just created by the media. I don’t really agree with it, but it is what it is
They never said he was punk. They were explaining how he didn’t really like how punk couldn’t be more melodic. He basically brought melody to punk which kinda created grunge
just pay attention bro
@Lost -- Rock = Black creation. American music = Black creation.
punk is not necessarily the sound. it's more "get up and do it" attitude. That's what made punk rock PUNK. Kurt got up and did it. with Nirvana
THIS IS A STRETCH . THERE IS NO CONNECTION BETWEEN TRAVIS SCOTT & NIRVANA .
JUST BECAUSE TRAVIS WEARS MULTIPLE NIRVANA TEE SHIRTS , DOESN'T MEAN THAT HE DOES ROCK MUSIC OR IS A ROCK STAR .
The way Travis's structures and engineers his music production is similar to punk rock is the argument
you sound like lil dicky