Poseidon the MOST Godly of them All (Record of Ragnarok Analysis)

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  • @queensdontbow
    @queensdontbow 11 месяцев назад +199

    One thing I love is that Hades represents everything Poseidon believes a god should be, but he actually does it the right way. Poseidon is cold, Hades is not. Poseidon fights out of egotism, Hades fights out of love. Poseidon is dreaded, Hades is respected. He has all the qualities the most godly of gods believes makes one divine - a god does not team up, a god does not rely, a god does not scheme - not because he believes in his own superiority, but because of his duty as the eldest. Hades isn't arrogant, he's just an older brother.
    If Poseidon is the gods at their worst - what they are - then Hades is them at their best - what they should be.

    • @SephTheSin
      @SephTheSin  11 месяцев назад +40

      Exactly couldn’t say it better myself, I can’t wait to get round to talking about Hades in his own video

    • @khristianhall2646
      @khristianhall2646 11 месяцев назад +15

      @@SephTheSin The Humans aren't the Heroes, the Gods aren't villains. there are no true winners at all

    • @cmdAHYT
      @cmdAHYT 3 месяца назад +4

      ​​@@khristianhall2646
      honestly yes, exactly my impression.
      in terms of raw symbolism, the big point of RoR is that humanity, despite all its wickedness, is still beautiful and worthy.
      regardless of whether the gods represent our self-destructive tendencies (the very things they hate us for) or those of us who rule with inhuman egos, were all just meat with opinions.
      sadly, some of us are cruel enough to want to force our opinions onto all others.

  • @justinweber4977
    @justinweber4977 10 месяцев назад +69

    I like to think Poseidon calling Kojiro "a piece of shit" as he died wasn't just a last display of arrogant contempt, but him cursing out Sasaki.
    It was as close as he would allow himself to a breakdown over the fact his entire worldview wasn't just challenges, but broken.

  • @korruptor9777
    @korruptor9777 11 месяцев назад +52

    Poseidon does have a facade. It’s the one that’s always on display. His true self is revealed when he stabs sasaki and in his final moments of life.

  • @ashergs1237
    @ashergs1237 5 месяцев назад +22

    15:05 “He may be an asshole, but he’s an asshole with all his heart” That has to be one of my favorite lines I’ve heard in a long time. That line alone earned a sub.

  • @nova7931
    @nova7931 11 месяцев назад +85

    So 2 things I like to bring up about his death
    1. Poseidon body ends up in nearly the same way as adamas, upper torso detached from the rest of his body
    2. He accidentally took the advice from one of the guy in the dojo kojiro trained in “if you lose your blade use your hand” grabs to broken off head of his trident “ if you lose your hands use your mouth” grabs the trident head with his teeth so in death he accidentally took someone else’s advice making even more of a joke

    • @yuuhan_requiem
      @yuuhan_requiem 9 месяцев назад +2

      Are you saying he was a joke or?

    • @livys788
      @livys788 8 месяцев назад +4

      But the "advice" was said in sasakis ' flashback . Poseidon wasn't present there, so it's more of desperation or his personality shining through.

  • @Max-pr4iq
    @Max-pr4iq 11 месяцев назад +185

    Best theory I've heared about why Poseidon left Adamas alive was because he knew Hades would never forgive him if he actually killed him

    • @SephTheSin
      @SephTheSin  11 месяцев назад +45

      That’s probably the best argument you can give I must agree,

    • @gohanblack5545
      @gohanblack5545 11 месяцев назад +18

      This theory makes sense especially since Hades and Zeus are very well respected by Pos

    • @keelanrichardson820
      @keelanrichardson820 10 месяцев назад +4

      I like this one right here

    • @emuongus
      @emuongus 8 месяцев назад +12

      in a recent extra chapter, this is actually somewhat confirmed! posiedon mentions hades would be sad if adamas died

  • @sharmin181
    @sharmin181 7 месяцев назад +27

    I love when Sasaki goes to help buda and saids: Poseidon will never do this, like he was a ashole but he had dignity, also how all the fighters live in the heart of the winners

  • @TackDanzi
    @TackDanzi 11 месяцев назад +36

    I've always seen Poseidon as flat, but this analysis helped me see he's more complex than I expected, especially foiled with Kojiro.

    • @SephTheSin
      @SephTheSin  11 месяцев назад +5

      Glad I could shed some more light on him,

  • @pathalenvivaldi7811
    @pathalenvivaldi7811 11 месяцев назад +19

    For Adamas, I always felt Poseidon spared him unintentionally. No, rather, subconsciously. He deep down does have some kind of brotherly care for them, even if minor, but he himself, till the end couldn't comprehend that, and that. If anything, he probably justified it in his head as testing Adamas, yes, but inwardly had humanity he suppressed till the end, which is tragic.
    Alternatively, it can be more simple, as in he actually failed to make it lethal enough, not giving a single, 'perfect' god killing blow, and it being a sign of how he isn't perfect for everyone has their own view of perfection, making perfection meaningless, and it being shown in his less than perfect kill strike. But I think it's the former and not this cause we already saw he's not perfect in his fight with Sasaki, and this moment came long after.

    • @nathanbrown7906
      @nathanbrown7906 Месяц назад +1

      Spoiler
      In recent chapters he held back because it would make Hades sad if her killed Adamas

  • @SmallOneEyedKing
    @SmallOneEyedKing 11 месяцев назад +44

    Egoistic is the word that describes poseidon.

    • @yuwenchen5962
      @yuwenchen5962 10 месяцев назад +5

      Another words that can describe Poseidon is sin of pride.

    • @zackzxx
      @zackzxx 9 месяцев назад +2

      and narcissism

  • @Floofiekun
    @Floofiekun 21 день назад +4

    I like how the Gods pretend that Adam didn't basically win against Zeus because he died before he could finish the fight. Really shows their arrogance, and then sending in Poseidon to rub salt in the wound is just messed up. Poseidon has that aura, but seeing him lose to the "biggest loser" in history is poetic and I love it.

  • @tobluetoblack
    @tobluetoblack 11 месяцев назад +18

    to understand and achieve success is to understand and achieve failure. Which is why, as you said in a previous video, Poseidon had to be the first God to lose. I think the most interesting thing about Poseidon is how he looks down upon virtually everyone save for someone like Hades because I think Poseidon respects Gods who truly embody their role as a God and also, in family. out of all the Gods, it was Hades whom Poseidon referred to as brother and Hades whom Poseidon wished to make sure was alive and even chastised for his reckless behavior. It's also why he had no respect for Adamas. I would *love* to see how Poseidon would have reacted to Hades' death. It's always interesting to ponder and more interesting to always see more depth to characters after they had died.

  • @justinweber4977
    @justinweber4977 10 месяцев назад +45

    Ironic, the god of the ever shifting oceans was completely stagnant.

    • @SephTheSin
      @SephTheSin  10 месяцев назад +12

      Excellent observation, may be another reason why he doesn’t use any watery powers

    • @JP-um1nj
      @JP-um1nj 3 месяца назад +2

      ​@@SephTheSinIkr! That was what surprised me the most. No cyclone, no Kraken (sic) no tsunami (given that his opponent is Japanese)
      Hulk could call him a puny god lel.

  • @icomirkata
    @icomirkata 11 месяцев назад +16

    4:01 😊
    Is he the strongest because he's Zeus? Or is he Zeus because he's the strongest?

    • @SephTheSin
      @SephTheSin  11 месяцев назад +1

      Always bet on Zeus the one who left it all behind with his overwhelming intensity

  • @Kajnake
    @Kajnake 5 месяцев назад +3

    I love it so much that record doesnt rely on the powers associated with a god, for the most part its straight hands, which somehow gives each strike more personality

  • @ExcuseMyWeebRudeness
    @ExcuseMyWeebRudeness 11 месяцев назад +9

    I had wanted to hear what you think about Poseidon fitting Qin’s definition of a king, since Hades believed he was the best god to match that description.

  • @MightyBryanGaming
    @MightyBryanGaming 11 месяцев назад +49

    He has a God complex. What do you expect 😂

  • @sammyjones2081
    @sammyjones2081 11 месяцев назад +5

    As to why Poseidon spared Adamas even when looking him in the eye with intent to kill, like he looked as Sasaki wanting to kill him, is probably for a similar reason Seph mentioned the difference in attitude Poseidon had towards Adamas and Hades.
    One, Sasaki, was his opponent in a fight to the death. The other, Adamas, was Poseidon's brother. Poseidon may not have liked it, but it was something he couldn't ignore, either willingly or instinctively.

  • @MorganMaguire-z5f
    @MorganMaguire-z5f Месяц назад +4

    The that is Adamos this is Hades was cold

  • @TannerThePuppyGamer
    @TannerThePuppyGamer 10 месяцев назад +3

    I think one of two of the reasons why adamas lived is either poseidon didn't put enough power into the attack or wanted to make him suffer for a bit before he died

  • @Jerrremy
    @Jerrremy 11 месяцев назад +2

    Loving this series dude. They make my week 🙏🙏

    • @SephTheSin
      @SephTheSin  11 месяцев назад

      And comments like these make my week, thanks for watching

  • @press8704
    @press8704 11 месяцев назад +2

    Loved this analysis. Subscribed, and I’ll be watching your other videos, too!

    • @SephTheSin
      @SephTheSin  10 месяцев назад +1

      Glad you enjoyed

  • @orpheemulemo8053
    @orpheemulemo8053 11 месяцев назад +13

    So if poseidon took sasaki seriously he would win also I have a theory I want you to cover that the Gods Greek Gods were so arrogant they didn't use there devine abilities except there physicals shiva only using his fighting style or his triton ,Zeus not using his thunder bolts and Poseidon not using his true triton and only using the average one with no power as he never needed to try after the Titanomachy and Hades not using his helm of darkness yet any God like thor who tries while having his Devine weapon examples like thor and Apollo will win as Hercules doesn't count being a demi God

    • @RedLights9000-f3l
      @RedLights9000-f3l 11 месяцев назад +1

      I don't think they're completely similar to the myth because Zeus have more than just thunderbolts and Poseidon's broken trident was given to hades so it's probably the real trident
      Also hades never spoke of his helmet I don't think he even have it in the show

    • @ironicweeb4111
      @ironicweeb4111 11 месяцев назад +1

      Pretty much all the gods who walked into arena didn’t take their fights seriously and didn’t go all out with the exception of a few gods (Buddha, Zerofuku, and Hades) Zeus broke down in song and dance the moment he walked in.

    • @orpheemulemo8053
      @orpheemulemo8053 11 месяцев назад

      @@RedLights9000-f3l The reason I say this is because Zeus menshioned having divine weapons and there titles give it away that they didn't show more like poseidons Triton is the only God weapon weaves seen break and not dissolve even whatever hades was carrying it also makes sense for poseidons character having anything to up his strength while already being perfect is ridiculous

    • @DestructionRadiant
      @DestructionRadiant 3 месяца назад

      Just a nerf: the gods could literally go on a true form if they wanted

  • @austinharris9290
    @austinharris9290 11 месяцев назад +4

    The old saying pride comes before the fall

  • @SeanQuinn-g4u
    @SeanQuinn-g4u 15 дней назад +1

    I am a little annoyed that authors of series did not have him control water considering in Greek myths Poseidon is known to control water

  • @sycros1866
    @sycros1866 11 месяцев назад +5

    This is just my opinion but I don't really think it's given enough Justice just how much the two fighters contrast each other. I mean think about it Poseidon is the most godly of gods because he is completely and utterly perfect just how a god should be. It is quite literally the defining characteristic of their entire race is that they are perfect. Where is by contrast Sasaki is the most human of all the humans, because if you really think about it what happens within each and every one of our human lives? We struggle, we suffer, we have a hard time and ultimately we fail, we fail again and again so many times. But even still we keep getting up and moving on forward, we keep trying to have fun and satisfaction in our lives despite all those failures and all the setbacks. That is exactly what happens to sasaki despite every setback every hard time he keeps getting up and moving forward. So in my opinion he's the most human of humans. And god damn is it awesome that he wins.

    • @SephTheSin
      @SephTheSin  11 месяцев назад +3

      Dw Ill be going into this a lot more in the Sasaki vid just thought I’d make more sense to really dive into that once I’ve already talked about both fighters,
      And yes Sasaki is one of the best characters in the series but I don’t think we’d like him half as much without Poseidon their to foil him,

    • @sycros1866
      @sycros1866 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@SephTheSin yeah that's fair enough. Looking forward to it tbh. I like ur vids lol.

  • @EmmanuelMarin07
    @EmmanuelMarin07 11 месяцев назад

    4:12 apollo realy does take after zeus

  • @j.p.8195
    @j.p.8195 11 месяцев назад +2

    I personally don't feel like Poseidon had hydrokinesis, at least the usual way. It is said that the water parts in fear, iirc, from Poseidon's sight. Even nature itself should bow to a God's will. I believe it was meant to be what humans have believed about Gods all throughout history and to demonstrate the point of Poseidon. Not very important to the video but just didn't feel like he purposely didn't use hydrokinesis

  • @EdogaMiyamoto-qg4bb
    @EdogaMiyamoto-qg4bb 3 месяца назад +2

    Wait wait hold on a second I remember Poseidon saying gods fight alone they are perfect from the very beginning but dude fought together with his brothers and other gods in the giants invasion. He not only a self centered narcissist but also a hypocrite because even if he didn’t like it he still teamed up with other people

  • @IsaacClodfelter
    @IsaacClodfelter 5 месяцев назад +1

    The greek god brothers really show there is no difference between how humanity acts and how the gods act. Just a lot of variance in individuals.

  • @holder-k5e
    @holder-k5e 5 месяцев назад

    If a god has a god complex, is it really a complex at all?
    Anyway, thanks for making a video about my favorite RoR character. I really enjoyed your analysis!

  • @EmmanuelMarin07
    @EmmanuelMarin07 11 месяцев назад

    Poseidon wakes up everyday with fresh hatred

  • @Observare22
    @Observare22 8 месяцев назад

    Hey I know I'm quite late in seeing this video but i just need to say great analysis and I hope you keep making this type of videos. It is quite funny, Hades was one or rather the only one that measured up to his idea of what a God is and yet he never really understood his brother. They fight so similarly, their habits are the same (whistling), their clothes and their looks to and yet they are so different. Poseidon fought to show his superiority as a God, while Hades fought for his brothers. Poseidon fought for his Pride, while Hades fought for Love (I think so). Poseidon insulted his opponent, while Hades respected his. Poseidon was still in denial and was petty at the end, while Hades accepted his defeat in grace. These are interesting characters indeed I wonder if Poseidon actually understood why Hades fought and carried himself in that why would he still respect him, change or rather he will be resentful and more bitter. Please share what you think everyone. Thank you

  • @KlaySaratoshi
    @KlaySaratoshi 9 месяцев назад +1

    Im wondering why does Poseidon not look at people, like his eyes are like not eye contact with other another

    • @SephTheSin
      @SephTheSin  8 месяцев назад

      I'd say its because looking someone in the eye is acknowledging them as a person, most people to Posideon are of so little significance he doesn't even acknowledge their existence so why would he even bother looking in their direction, do you ever bother looking at the ants by your feet or the random grass and dirt around you, I feel its something like that, he is simply above them so they aren't even worhty of being in his eyeline

  • @censari544
    @censari544 8 месяцев назад

    The sea is the law of existence. I think Zeus ages because of his relation cronos maybe? Gfoc?

  • @zackripely1166
    @zackripely1166 11 месяцев назад +1

    Are you gonna do a video on Buddha?

    • @SephTheSin
      @SephTheSin  11 месяцев назад

      Yeah planning on doing a individual vid for every fighter in the series, making them in order do their fights though so gotta do Sasaki, Heracles, Jack, Shiva, Raiden and Zero first

  • @frostleaf7833
    @frostleaf7833 11 месяцев назад

    sorry for the offtopic question but since you already do videos on baki and ror will you ever check out/do videos on kengan ashura and omega?

  • @takaw.d8486
    @takaw.d8486 2 месяца назад

    Imma be honest, he literally embodies what a God is and carries that Pride, he carries all the pride that the gods have, he literally upholds the image of Gods, to lose to who humanity would consider the greatest loser in history, the only human to have lost all his battles in his entire life would mark Gods with a humiliation that none would be able rid, its trully a magnificent manga

  • @solairesamv
    @solairesamv 11 месяцев назад +1

    I like apollo and hercules as well as bhudda

  • @unknownstranger3646
    @unknownstranger3646 11 месяцев назад +4

    He's like heimdall from god of war ragnarok. Which is why I don't understand why fans like this version of poseidon despite his attitude while fans hate gow ragnarok heimdall because of it. They are almost the same person. And just so you know, i liked gow ragnarok heimdall. Sure, he was a jerk, but there were some parts of his character that i like.

    • @ironicweeb4111
      @ironicweeb4111 11 месяцев назад

      Poseidon on this manga series already knows he’s a god so he doesn’t boast about it cause a god wouldn’t call out the obvious. Heimdall in GOW doesn’t shut up when should, so despite both of them being similar in ideals in execution their both radically different

  • @Niebert
    @Niebert 9 месяцев назад +1

    The thing people seem to not understand is that only sasaki could have killed poseidon.
    He trained after death, got revolund and literally gained a godlike power capable of scanning the whole creation. Poseidon wasn't lucky ,nothing else

  • @Im_gay-f4c
    @Im_gay-f4c 9 месяцев назад

    maybe- water, light control etc etc, is blocked from ragnarok? idfk

  • @SmallOneEyedKing
    @SmallOneEyedKing 11 месяцев назад +4

    I love Hades, my favourite and best character yet. His responsible actions made me like him. Yes, Poseidon is an asshole of a brother, but he is still my sibling, and taking revenge is the right thing to do. That is what I felt after his flashback, and I grew to love him more for his relationship to Beelzebub.
    The fact of Hades Character is he is... someone who will support others with no favours in return a True leader role.

    • @SephTheSin
      @SephTheSin  11 месяцев назад +3

      Hades is such a great character, cannot wait to cover him in his own video, the king and brother who gave everything for others but because of it could never grasp victory for his own sake, his loss is so tragic but also one of the best written defeats in the series, man is such a chad

    • @SmallOneEyedKing
      @SmallOneEyedKing 11 месяцев назад +1

      @SephTheSin O even bet he Won because of all the circumstances that had happened in the battlefield

    • @khristianhall2646
      @khristianhall2646 11 месяцев назад

      @@SephTheSin Still I am really scared actually because its one that shows me the truth of Ragnarok

  • @Architectofawesome
    @Architectofawesome 4 месяца назад +1

    Poseidon wasn't necessarily wrong yet he failed because of the content of his hearth.

  • @takaw.d8486
    @takaw.d8486 2 месяца назад

    The result of the battle: 🍣🍣🍣🍣😦🍣🍣

  • @khristianhall2646
    @khristianhall2646 11 месяцев назад +4

    Honestly it was a big surprise and just plain it of all things in the world.
    He was just too perfect and never had room to grow even though he did have more to improve himself at best.
    flaws of the gods, Strength of Humanity. Honestly you sure you can look at those, and see whose is better but none are better and all are great.
    Poseidon is not whom I think what makes a God as a God can anything different besides it, sure they follow perfection, but Poseidon is not the end all be all.
    Despite his views and despite his outlook. He had nothing but love and respect for Hades, his older brother whom which he never referred to. I think that this facade of his is a mask to hide something, the fear of accepting growth and the need to change.
    If Poseidon is one thing, its Stagnation.
    @SephTheSIN
    I have to wonder are you a supporter of Humanity or the Gods.
    Personally I have no side and see them are not worth supporting. but what about you

    • @SephTheSin
      @SephTheSin  11 месяцев назад +1

      If I had to say if I’m a supporter of one or the other I guess I’d have to humanity, I mean RoR is far from a morally grey story and it’s very clear the humans are ‘the good guys’ and the gods are ‘the bad guys’, and especially in the early parts of the story this is very clearly shown, I mean throughout R3 we are never shown a single thing to make us like Poseidon his flashback literally amounts to him murdering his brother, he’s written as this unlikable character on purpose because we are meant to hate his guts and be overjoyed and humanity’s first win, it’s actually quite clever to have humans vs gods as you don’t need to do much leg work on the authors side to set up who we should support as well it’s only natural we the readers will side with our own race against these assholes who want to wipe out humans, Poseidon being constantly labelled as the god of gods or the most godly of gods throughout R3 by the narrator, the other gods etc is because he is what the gods in story and us the reader are meant to perceive as the ideal god, as I said RoR ain’t very subtle with its messaging a lot of the time so when the story repeatedly calls him the god of gods is because that’s what we are meant to view him as, he is this big bad evil god that humanity must overcome to show the gods aren’t perfect, basically his defeat proves to the other gods who were constantly chanting GOG at him that what Posideon stood for their ideal image of a god is not perfect, he himself is not literally perfect but he is what the other gods viewed as perfect, he’s the ideal they all strived for, yes a god can be anything but that’s no how the gods operate, they all wanted to be like Poseidon because to the gods the most godly thing is overwhelming power,
      TLDR the humans have always been portrayed as the ‘good guys’ their morals have never been questioned in the story whereas the gods are constantly criticised and presented as ‘bad guys’, I ‘support’ humanity because the story is about humans defeating gods it’s not morally ambiguous or grey, it’s quite clear which side we should be rooting for hence why characters like Posidoen are given deaths to be celebrated by the reader whereas that’s not once ever happened to a human because they are who we are meant to be supporting, same as how in the MCU we may agree Thanos has some good points but at the end of the day he is still the ‘bad guy’ and we route for the avengers to win as they are the ‘good guys’

    • @khristianhall2646
      @khristianhall2646 11 месяцев назад

      @@SephTheSin Wow I have to thank you for writing this but in my personal opinion. I don't root for Humanity or the Gods. Because i know that deep down, that there is no reason because at the end of the day there is only one thing that truly matters.
      Personally I don't see Humans as the good guys and Gods as the bad guys because at they are all same and I see there has to come a time where a fist should either be raised or just put down as a result.
      I appreciate you doing these videos but I just like to add that Humanity needs a lesson of how they can improve so this never happens again.

  • @One007
    @One007 3 дня назад

    If your born perfect and absolutely believe in it than there is no point in listening what others think of you because to me God is God through and through without needing anything or anyone to accept him as God.

  • @onemisterfranko
    @onemisterfranko 28 дней назад

    Id say he represents a type of evil, similar to Jack.

  • @chrisa.2323
    @chrisa.2323 11 месяцев назад +3

    To counter the power scalers I'd like to argue that Poseidon was the weakest God, in that the way he was written he would have never won a match in the tournament. Maybe Heracles also falls under that too. But that's what made Poseidon such a great character, boosting Sasaki and the series as a whole for embodying perfection and Gods, to then lose in the end.

    • @exit8062
      @exit8062 9 месяцев назад +2

      Poseidon never used anything but his swordsmanship/skill alone
      We see a glimpse of his power when he is entering Arena(water manip)
      And another moments include Sasaki annoying Poseidon therefore making him go serious for a single attack to prove his superiority and go thru Sasaki's prediction
      only flaw of Poseidon is his Arrogance which resulted in his death
      Full power Poseidon would be around top 8 of the strongest (5th or below but 8th or above)

    • @chrisa.2323
      @chrisa.2323 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@exit8062 If his arrogance directly led to Sasaki winning, then it would've led Jack or Leonidas to winning. He's still a god with far superior base stats obviously, but he's so personality diffed that I don't see him winning unless you go out of your way to ignore personality traits.

    • @exit8062
      @exit8062 9 месяцев назад

      @@chrisa.2323 i talk about sheer power scaling not including his arrogance, if he goes all out he is top tier

    • @chrisa.2323
      @chrisa.2323 9 месяцев назад

      @@exit8062 Then we're having different conversations here.

  • @guslopez8760
    @guslopez8760 11 месяцев назад +1

    First