This is pretty good. But I can tell Heroes' physics isn't made for Adventure 2 level design. It's like the characters are overpowered with Heroes physics.
Thank you! And very much so lol. In fact, the pc version of heroes actually makes the characters even faster due to the porting process. But even that aside, jumps being higher and flying being being a thing make it very different playthrough than with SA2 Shadow. A seaside hill port to SADX demonstrates how the reverse works out: ruclips.net/video/L_KlVJ3EV3A/видео.html If I was going to do a level from scratch, I'd definitely try a bit harder to account for it all. Even some of the main game stages sometimes feel a bit cramped with how the characters feel imo.
Allegedly, the console versions of the characters run at 80% of the speed of the PC characters. Admittedly, I haven't tested this extensively personally, but it does seem to be the case.
Shadowth117 So between emulating the game via dolphin and getting the PC version, which one would provide the better experience (functional and gameplay wise)?
Gamecube is probably the better experience by a tad right now although there's some fixes that basically put the PC version on par with more to come. Gamecube's version will probably also never support mods to this extent. So essentially GC for the original experience, PC for mod support for the future.
This translated so well! If they ever did a new Sonic Heroes game, they should have a secret level like this for each team. Like Angel Island Zone for Team Sonic, Palmtree Panic Zone for Team Rose, and Isolated Island for Team Chaotix.
Thank you, it took a great deal of effort piecing together everything for it. While I feel that I could have done a lot better with the cameras (Heroes cameras are complicated and unfortunately not straightforward to make), I put a great deal of effort into all aspects and worked to get everything as accurate as it could be. A few times, I had to make the choice between keeping one aspect of an object or another (The spinning NiGHTS heads have a functional texture animation sequence that doesn't work with the spinning animation). There's even a few random things that are fixed between this version of the stage and what's in SA2. I learned a ton about the game and modding in general working on this and I'm thankful the fruits of that have been good for many.
Thanks! It was probably the first since tools really came out to fully make use of everything available. I tried to put in everything I could to make it accurate to the original. :D
Well, I'm not 100% sure how PS4 PSN works compared to Xbox One, but on Xbox One you can often play old 360 games. Heroes actually got a PS3 port oddly so you might be able to download it on PS4. Maybe.
To be fair, that's potentially fixable, but for the life of me, I couldn't figure it out at the time. The heroes camera settings are a bit of a nightmare to work with and near the end of the level, nothing like that wanted to work right.
Porting a a whole different level from a game that works "similar but not really" should be a nightmare indeed, this looks solid though, already more than just "playable"
It's funny you mention that. It *IS* actually possible to an extent right now with the same level editor we have, HeroesPowerPlant. However while we can get the level geometry and collision in, things like grind rails, loops, and various objects may not be possible right now unfortunately though.
Not to mention, how badly would Chaos Control screw the level up? Or are there not enough places for the right enemies to possibly build up and trigger Chaos Control? You don’t have to worry about what Chaos Control does if you can only obtain Chaos Blast in the level.
You can control the path Chaos Control takes, but I would probably only place Chaos Blast building enemies since they fit better narratively. It sort of depends too on the level it goes over.
That was top notch. :D, The only thing I would do differently myself if possible is change the spinning bits that you use to roll under to be smashable because that just feels more fun. A+ I didn't even know heroes had a modding scene.
Digiflower5 Thanks, yeah the modding scene is from within the last year basically. Can't change the collision model for stuff atm, but that would have been a good idea. If you want to mod it yourself btw, the discord in the description is the place to go.
I’ve never seen this video before, but I’ve had a dream regarding sonic heroes, and the map looked a LOT similar to this. A city landscape at night with many street lights, stories above the ground
It’s fun watching the fan base of Sonic games mod to make the games more enjoyable. Still waiting for Sega to give up more control to show what we can really do to help out the Blue Blur.
I've had some ideas for a kaizo sonic heroes. The difficulty would be the opposite from the original game with team dark being the easiest and team rose being the hardest
Well, feel free to join our discord if you want to learn how to set that up: discordapp.com/invite/Ku9KRy6 Our level editor, HeroesPowerPlant, is coming along very nicely and supports just about everything important for making levels and we've done a lot of research into how everything works.
Great mod btw. Just wondering is like SA2 hard to mod? Because I see mods for sadx heroes and beyond, but never for SA2, sure I see Skins for the Chao, but nothing important or fan made.
SA2 has unfortunately not been looked into as much due to mod tool programmers having a lack of interest and there being a lack of understanding on formats. This could be changing in the next few years though. JCorvinus aka CorvidDude has been really pushing to fix things up with the old tools and there's been an interest in adding proper support for SA2 things. So hopefully that'll happen soonish. When it does, expect mods from me for it! SA2 is probably one of my favorite games of all time.
Shadowth117 HEY! Thats a good one XD Btw, this video just come out of my recomendation feed and i felt the need of shared it to the world: a girl beating The Nameless King with a Dance Dance Revolution Pad as a controller, maybe you saw it before but anyway... take it, is awesome.... ruclips.net/video/UxKsRf6R-vc/видео.html
Lol Thanks! Yeah it was very exciting to be able to make 2d animations for it. I tried my best to make it accurate. The one sad thing is the timing is off depending on the power of your PC, but it was very cool to get so close to the original.
I'll do my best not to let that happen again. It was really late, wasn't at my home computer, but I wanted to get it out for everyone. Not too much to say, but this is probably the only video where I've actually had it in on accident and by chance it ended up my most watched.
For a sec I thought it was a unlockable hidden stage like Sonic adventure 2 When you collect 120 emblems & get to play green hill zone in 3ds But this is cool too
I can tell heroes Physics dont work for this cuz in a normal gameplay you would die falling many times but with Shadow physics it probably could ve worked better Edit:awesome work,is this even possible?? Someone still likes that incredible game!! (Plz make more videos like that)
I definitely agree. People speculate Shadow and this haven't been rereleased due to their use of the Renderware engine and licensing with that, but it's a real shame. It got rereleased on PSN as a PS2 classic, but nowhere else :c
I'm really surprised you responded. O: Well yeah, that's always been something I've really wanted to see. I wondered if it would make the game at least look cooler.
All I can think of is how do cars drive on these roads?
RADICALLY
You are asking the important questions here.
Well it's not finished in construction
@@thetruej7872 why does a highway have loop d loops?
@@cheafmin1399 Ask the construction workers
Shadow: This highway...something about it seems familiar.
Rouge: Maybe we'll find some answers here.
Omega: Do not stray from objective.
"Wow, I sure remember this line! Good ol' sonic heroes!"
This is pretty good. But I can tell Heroes' physics isn't made for Adventure 2 level design. It's like the characters are overpowered with Heroes physics.
Thank you! And very much so lol. In fact, the pc version of heroes actually makes the characters even faster due to the porting process. But even that aside, jumps being higher and flying being being a thing make it very different playthrough than with SA2 Shadow. A seaside hill port to SADX demonstrates how the reverse works out: ruclips.net/video/L_KlVJ3EV3A/видео.html
If I was going to do a level from scratch, I'd definitely try a bit harder to account for it all. Even some of the main game stages sometimes feel a bit cramped with how the characters feel imo.
Shadowth117 how much faster are they in the PC version in comparison to the gamecube version?
Allegedly, the console versions of the characters run at 80% of the speed of the PC characters. Admittedly, I haven't tested this extensively personally, but it does seem to be the case.
Shadowth117 So between emulating the game via dolphin and getting the PC version, which one would provide the better experience (functional and gameplay wise)?
Gamecube is probably the better experience by a tad right now although there's some fixes that basically put the PC version on par with more to come. Gamecube's version will probably also never support mods to this extent. So essentially GC for the original experience, PC for mod support for the future.
Hmph. Not bad.
Shadow The Hedgehog Wtf Faker
DARKNESS
[WIND NOISES]
Believe it or not, that's a seagull object.
Wow that seagull is hating on the zone lol
Wow I miss this game so much
Which one? Lol 😂
This is a mod
This is so well made that you almost had me thinking that this was a hidden level. Well done!
Thanks! Believe me, a lot of time went into it.
even the light and shadows reflects onto the models. that's so cool.
*wind intensifies*
Wait a minute, this isn't Radical Highway! This is just...
Grand Metropolis!
This translated so well! If they ever did a new Sonic Heroes game, they should have a secret level like this for each team. Like Angel Island Zone for Team Sonic, Palmtree Panic Zone for Team Rose, and Isolated Island for Team Chaotix.
This is so well done.. if i never played sonic heroes id believe this was a real level in the game. radical highway is such a classic good job dude
Thank you, it took a great deal of effort piecing together everything for it. While I feel that I could have done a lot better with the cameras (Heroes cameras are complicated and unfortunately not straightforward to make), I put a great deal of effort into all aspects and worked to get everything as accurate as it could be.
A few times, I had to make the choice between keeping one aspect of an object or another (The spinning NiGHTS heads have a functional texture animation sequence that doesn't work with the spinning animation). There's even a few random things that are fixed between this version of the stage and what's in SA2.
I learned a ton about the game and modding in general working on this and I'm thankful the fruits of that have been good for many.
That's the most impressive Sonic Heroes edit I've seen. Great job!
Thanks! It was probably the first since tools really came out to fully make use of everything available. I tried to put in everything I could to make it accurate to the original. :D
We need this game bringing back out on PS4 and Xbox One. I used to play this everyday on PS2.
Well, I'm not 100% sure how PS4 PSN works compared to Xbox One, but on Xbox One you can often play old 360 games. Heroes actually got a PS3 port oddly so you might be able to download it on PS4. Maybe.
Shadowth117 I’ll have a look! Thanks!
This looks incredible. Happy to see modding for one of my all time favorite Sonic games!
2:59 3D Sonic games in a nutshell ayy
To be fair, that's potentially fixable, but for the life of me, I couldn't figure it out at the time. The heroes camera settings are a bit of a nightmare to work with and near the end of the level, nothing like that wanted to work right.
Porting a a whole different level from a game that works "similar but not really" should be a nightmare indeed, this looks solid though, already more than just "playable"
Couldn't ignore the mouse. But still cool!
Yeah, that's my bad. I was away from my normal computer when I had to upload this and so I wasn't able to record like I usually would. Thanks though!
Wow I didn't even notice the whole play through
Tropic Ex same
ChaosNew I don't see no mouse, I only see a white arrow.
Volt t. That's what I meant.
Sonic heroes is evolving even further beyond
1:50 something go wrong?
Awesome work! Now put it in Shadow the Hedgehog lol
Maybe one day lol
Shadow is on a tweaked heroes engine so it's highly possible when we get the resources open due to it being a gamecube game
It's funny you mention that. It *IS* actually possible to an extent right now with the same level editor we have, HeroesPowerPlant. However while we can get the level geometry and collision in, things like grind rails, loops, and various objects may not be possible right now unfortunately though.
Not to mention, how badly would Chaos Control screw the level up? Or are there not enough places for the right enemies to possibly build up and trigger Chaos Control? You don’t have to worry about what Chaos Control does if you can only obtain Chaos Blast in the level.
You can control the path Chaos Control takes, but I would probably only place Chaos Blast building enemies since they fit better narratively. It sort of depends too on the level it goes over.
Don't know how you did it but very nice job my friend ;)
A Sonic Heroes Mod, this many years later......wow
lumo93 It took a while for someone to put in the effort for a tool that allowed for this, but my boy Sewer56lol did a good job.
I remember only being able to change the music with this software I found, it's pretty old by now I'm sure
lumo93 Well, there's a lot of tools for that music format now. A lot of the heroes tools are pretty recent though.
1:00 Shadow:Just watch this!
Also shadow dabs
I dislike the actual heroes level design but this looks amazing and fun fixing my problems with heroes making it not mandatory to switch
I loved the physics and movement of Heroes, so smooth.
It’s great seeing that Sonic Heroes is still getting attention, I thought my Lets Play of it would be dead lol, nice work man
Idk how many larger mods are planned for any time soon, but I have some for something down the line and some smaller mods very soon.
Well my friend, you just earned yourself a sub from me. Keep up the great way!
Rule of the Sonic Community:
If it's a 3D Sonic Game, it can run Radical Highway
At least 2 modders have used the model of it I set up for this with its fixes in separate projects entirely so I feel at least partly responsible.
*WORTHLESS CONSUMER MODELS!*
Brenton Taylor *Sonic paradox*
**WORTHLESS CONSUMER MODELS**
*ERADICATE*
This game is so cool. I have been playing it since I was 9 years old and I still love it best level of Sonic Adventure 2 game.
That was top notch. :D, The only thing I would do differently myself if possible is change the spinning bits that you use to roll under to be smashable because that just feels more fun. A+ I didn't even know heroes had a modding scene.
Digiflower5 Thanks, yeah the modding scene is from within the last year basically. Can't change the collision model for stuff atm, but that would have been a good idea. If you want to mod it yourself btw, the discord in the description is the place to go.
Thanks, I am now a member of the discord, I havent modded anything 3D before so well see how it goes, im not sure what im going to do in there yet.
0:01 WHAT DID SHE SAYYY
This is the ULTIMATE POWER
Beautiful thumbnail
Now all we need is Heroes Stages in SA2 and we got ourselves a night
I don't know how soon that will be, but there's been progress towards setting up tools for that.
1:50 what was that
It's the pulley. Heroes pc has 3d sound issues.
Can someone please tale me how to get this satge
Did shadow just made a terrible pun? "B-iece of cake"
2:50 That camera angle.
Nintendo switch needs to bring this game back and Sa2
Sonic Adventure 2 Battle FT. Sonic Heroes!
This is really really good
1:03 Shadow: Get all the angles
Awesome, I want to see more mods, you are awesome man :D
Fucking fast ass heroes..... Slippery skies With Ice on your feet
great video dude! congrats!!
I always wondered why there were't any mods for this game, didn't this come out right after the PC release of SA1?
It did, but it's a substantially less popular game.
Can someone tale me how to this satge
More proof that Sonic Heroes is the third unofficial Dreamcast Era Sonic game
You know you go faster when holding down the accelerate button rather than tapping it repeatedly when grinding right?
**Nostalgia intensifies**
I’ve never seen this video before, but I’ve had a dream regarding sonic heroes, and the map looked a LOT similar to this. A city landscape at night with many street lights, stories above the ground
It’s fun watching the fan base of Sonic games mod to make the games more enjoyable. Still waiting for Sega to give up more control to show what we can really do to help out the Blue Blur.
This makes me very happy to see. It looks great and would totally fit the heroes style with few level layout adjustments.
Yooooo! This looks so legit!!
I've had some ideas for a kaizo sonic heroes. The difficulty would be the opposite from the original game with team dark being the easiest and team rose being the hardest
Well, feel free to join our discord if you want to learn how to set that up: discordapp.com/invite/Ku9KRy6
Our level editor, HeroesPowerPlant, is coming along very nicely and supports just about everything important for making levels and we've done a lot of research into how everything works.
Great mod btw.
Just wondering is like SA2 hard to mod? Because I see mods for sadx heroes and beyond, but never for SA2, sure I see Skins for the Chao, but nothing important or fan made.
SA2 has unfortunately not been looked into as much due to mod tool programmers having a lack of interest and there being a lack of understanding on formats. This could be changing in the next few years though. JCorvinus aka CorvidDude has been really pushing to fix things up with the old tools and there's been an interest in adding proper support for SA2 things.
So hopefully that'll happen soonish. When it does, expect mods from me for it! SA2 is probably one of my favorite games of all time.
This is just incredible! :3
I'm late but could you do city escape in sonic heroes with team sonic?
Pretty good but...
What kind of highway have loopings and all that stuff? XD
Well apparently, the Radical kind :p
Shadowth117 HEY! Thats a good one XD
Btw, this video just come out of my recomendation feed and i felt the need of shared it to the world: a girl beating The Nameless King with a Dance Dance Revolution Pad as a controller, maybe you saw it before but anyway... take it, is awesome....
ruclips.net/video/UxKsRf6R-vc/видео.html
I have this game wow so many years later 😅😅
it's fast.....I Like This
how do you play sonic heroes on pc
How they do this and heroes is just to fast for this stage
Y’all really done did it!😝I’m impressed😎👍🏾
This is such great work.
See if you can mod Route 101 in Sonic Heroes
Scariest high way
Looks good, I just hate how the camera gets kinda wonky in some areas...
Heroes cameras are true pain. If the auto cam was anywhere as good as sa2 or sa1, it'd be a non issue sadly.
Good work!
You even put in all the little quirks with the loading screen. Knew this would be an instant 10/10 after I saw that! Haha.
Lol Thanks! Yeah it was very exciting to be able to make 2d animations for it. I tried my best to make it accurate. The one sad thing is the timing is off depending on the power of your PC, but it was very cool to get so close to the original.
Color me impressed...
As amazing as this is ... THE MOUSE WAS BUGGING ME
I'll do my best not to let that happen again. It was really late, wasn't at my home computer, but I wanted to get it out for everyone. Not too much to say, but this is probably the only video where I've actually had it in on accident and by chance it ended up my most watched.
Lmao that's amazing. Great work though, love the video! Subbed for sure!
Bruh this is beautiful
Now do vity escape for heroes you don't have to make sonic surf on a piece of metal though
Wonderful video!
This looks really good
For a sec I thought it was a unlockable hidden stage like
Sonic adventure 2
When you collect 120 emblems & get to play green hill zone in 3ds
But this is cool too
Sadly just a hard mode unlocks in this game, but there may be mods on the way for more.
Mighht as well add it to the game now
2:01 mini heart attack
Great mod. I can't remember where that music is from. I keep forgetting.
The music is from the original version of the level in SA2.
Thanks. Shadow the Hedgehog, Sonic the Hedgehog (2006) and Sonic Adventure 2 probably have the best music in the series.
True that.
Why does a highway have loops and missing parts of the ground
Yes
Still longer than a Sonic Forces stage
Dude i play the stage and all is black and im falling down infinitly
You didn't install the mod correctly then.
this should’ve been dlc or something
Never understood why the AI's would spazz out everytime u run
Sonic heroes 2 is looking great!
This was very well made
I can tell heroes Physics dont work for this cuz in a normal gameplay you would die falling many times but with Shadow physics it probably could ve worked better
Edit:awesome work,is this even possible?? Someone still likes that incredible game!! (Plz make more videos like that)
Sega should just release this on Steam so that fans can mod it easier.
I definitely agree. People speculate Shadow and this haven't been rereleased due to their use of the Renderware engine and licensing with that, but it's a real shame. It got rereleased on PSN as a PS2 classic, but nowhere else :c
Wish I could see SA2 Shadow in Shadow The Hedgehog
This is a possibility at some point!
I'm really surprised you responded. O:
Well yeah, that's always been something I've really wanted to see. I wondered if it would make the game at least look cooler.
Now this is a cool mod
Great mod man, it's amazing to see this stage in Heroes!!
woooow very radical, indeed! 😂 Dangerouss final
Is there mods that put Heroes levels in SA2?.
Unfortunately, not right now. However there's been a lot of progress on SA2 in the last few months. It may very well happen one day!
Damn, if Heroes had adventure 2 dlc
Do you know how to do the free camera mod for Sonic Heroes? I don't know where to put the files or anything.
Oh no! What have you done!?
God, this is so well maded!
Annihilation! Annihilation!