I totally understand the parents siding with their friends and wanting OP to continue to date Kyle........if they are European royalty and if it is the 1700s and if the relationship will stop a war. Otherwise, put your child's happiness above your friendships and matchmaking meddling.
Going to the hospital to support the girl who completely broke your daughter is so cold it's unbelievable. Sending a picture of the baby is just spiteful! wtf. OP's mom is a selfish narcissist. NC for years and the first thing mom does is tries to berate OP into being friends with Ashley and Kyle?
Yeah that's one of the most horrible stories I've heard aside from rape and murder. The family alienated and abused this girl then wonder why she disappeared? Ugh no words, no good words at least. 😠😪
no, the first thing they did was try to squeeze her for $$$$, then the attempt at getting the friendship back together happened, how much you want to bet that the younger sister was pressured to contact OP in the first place for that reason? She said the younger sisters knowledge of the parents financial difficulties seemed odd.
@@mindcraftyD13 I cannot believe OP’s generosity of going back to her shit excuse of a “family” to offer financial support after what they did to her like god damn if that were me I’d be going back to rub shit in their face and burn their house down or something not offer HELP
Of course they didn't cut ties. They chose the trailers over their daughter before she found out, so of course they were going to choose the traitors over their daughter later.
I find it ironic how they keep accusing OP of being selfish but they’re the selfish ones for what they did and continue to do. Let them ruin themselves and never speak to them again.
Holy shit. That mom sounds like the type of person who would side with a rapist because "their my best friend" despite her kids being one of the victims. She didn't just go to the birth while OP was suffering a breakdown, she didn't just go get a drink with the other family, she didn't just blame her for everything, She did ALL that then years later upon getting a second chance she didn't deserve; TRIED TO DO IT AGAIN! Did she have OP and her sisters JUST because her friends did? does she think being a parent is a social thing friends do on the same level as eating at the same place. Fuck, I kinda wish OP knew how little her mother cared about her earlier just so she could learn how to take the massively fucked up hit she got hit.
Agreed, when the OP finally had the heart to heart with you Dad. His fog got lifted. He finally saw what he and his wife did. I commend him for taking ownership. I commend him for trying to right the ship with his and his wife’s actions. In the end the only way to repair things with his daughter was to leave his wife. That must have been a hard realization. He’s no saint, but better late than never. I’ve no pity for the Mom. She made her choice. Now, she’s got to live with it. Newsflash, she can’t. She’ll still have her oldest daughter, Kyle’s family. Even though her status with them has diminished.
With the letter... I'd have Dean read it. No one knows you better than him. He can read it unaffected and if there is anything you should know, he'll let you know. Then burn it after.
Same but tbh, partly bc I want to know what it says 😅 My bet is that's an apology letter, for Ashley to clear her conscience, aka for Ashley's own benefit, and it wouldn't do OP any good.
I would have to disagree. Because then if he doesn't tell her, she'd always wonder what it said, and might even pester him for it. If she just burns it, she may still wonder what if, but it's gone, and while tempted, she won't be able to find out, other than contacting Ashley, which she would never do.
It's so insane how hypocritical OP's mom is she keeps calling OP selfish but she is by far one of the most selfish people ever, caring more about herself and her petty problems then the emotional state of her daughter. I feel so sorry for OP she was giving a horrible mother.
Exactly, who cares if your friend's daughter needs support. She made her bed, let her lay in it. That tough delivery was karma, it wasn't the baby's fault being conceive how she was. But life showing Ashley how she made a horrible mistake and the decision to keep it quiet. All the mom had to do was stay. It was simple, a decent mother would have just stayed instead of being there for a friend. She could easily have started restoring the trust. But she chose her friendship over her daughter. And when granddaughter got her aunt to come back to help. The mom tried to get her daughter to help restore that friendship. The mom deserves everything she is getting. Numerous choices she could have made, once she knows Kyle was the dad she could have waited while figuring out how to tell op. It is not bad trying to figure out how to tell your child crushing news. Instead she chose to keep it a secret cause it helped her friendship.
Imagine finding out someone you've been supporting non-stop selfishly stabbed you in the back. Makes me convinced if OP could go back in time, she'd have withdrawn all that help. No consoling, no defending her from the bullies, no attending classes with her...just leave her to rot. You dont get to stab someone in the back, and then expect support But really the betrayal of OPs family is actually worse. Imagine caring more about the culprit than the victim. They enabled the affair, and even when caught ordered OP to suck it up so they could continue their little fantasy of how everyone's happy together and singing koombaya. OPs only mistake was to talk to them again. From the moment of discovering the betrayal the first time, she should've made being an orphan her new identity and never looked back Update: OPs mom's a piece of work. "Waaaaaah I lost a lot of friends in high school waaaah" well now you lost two daughters, and a husband, and trust me more kids are out the door, have fun being a miserable old hag alone, once your bestie with her cheating son gets bored of you. Honestly I think Ashley being super duper sorry would be even more insulting than her acting like she did nothing wrong. Because she had MANY opportunities to feel regret, little too late now. Edit: Me and typing don't get along
I lost a lot of friends in high school, I was so unpopular no one knew me. I was jealous of kids who got bullied because at least people knew who they were. But I would never let a shitty person like that hurt someone I care about, just to keep my friend numbers up. Because that’s not a real friend! Not if they treat the people you love like that
@@NicholeParker Sorry you went through that. People's feelings due to past events are valid, but actively doing harm to others is a way to forfeit any entitlement to empathy, like OPs mom who abandoned her own daughter
Lets drop all to a side and applause Dean. My man literally did everything while havung a bad/strained relationship with his own family, and came out great both as a human and a man. He could just likely be a prick but he not only supported himself, he supported OP even before they got together. 10/10 would accept him as a bro.
Agreed, Dean is a pretty standup guy and a small kudos to OP's dad for finally getting out of the fog/coming to the light and noping away from his toxic ex wife.
Applause for what? For allowing OP to expose their children to the bunch of psychos? You tell me that your family did that crap to you and you want to reconnect with them and I'm filling for divorce. OP is a weakling, her family are traitors and Dean is wussy. They all suck. No matter what the kids go over yourself
I feel bad for Dean though she literally said she wasn’t in love with him when they married and that she was with him because he took care of her. The bro got used.
@@ryanbrown7597 absolutely no one seems to notice that detail. It's surprising that OP could be so cold for that but lost that coldness when it came to running back to her toxic family that betrayed her.
I wasn't even halfway through the video and I was SEETHING with anger. Especially at OP's mother. OP was betrayed not only by her ex and best friend, but their ENTIRE FAMILY, who apparently values their friends more than her. Absolutely disgusting. OP is better off burning that letter and cutting off everyone who supported that betrayal. Let them rot.
I’m not normally one to suggest something like this, but in this case “pain for pain, blood for blood” comes to mind. You hurt me, you better believe I’m going to make you hurt even more if I can 😡🤬
What's even funny is that the two traitors are having marital problems. Their affair was out of lust, not love. OP showing up was a guilt trigger for them as they knew why things were falling apart around them.
Same. It was just infuriating. The casual way she was treated by her parents while they continued to be all buddy buddy with the ex boyfriends family and be super involved in the birth is just sick. And what's more, when her "friend" was pregnant and everyone knew who the dad was except for the OP, the parents must have witnessed the OP being happy to see her boyfriend when he picked her up for dates, came over to her house, etc, and thinking every thing was all okay. They are revolting people.
ugh- i've read this story before and it still makes me genuinely physically nauseous how literally everyone in the op's life betrayed her- i can't even imagine
It's a disturbing mindset. Instead of protecting family from assholes, they chose to protect them from facing consequences. The other siblings and OP's dad are the only family members that are on OP's side since they see how horrible things have turned out.
tbh, if I was OP, the only person I'd keep contact with would be the little sister. Like Rslash was saying, she was too young to carry on to a secret like that and was the only one to express any form of remorse before OP ran away. The other siblings and her father were all adults at the time and they should have known better than to try and hide something this damaging from their own sister in favor of a friend. Everyone's a traitor except the neice, the little sister, and Dean and his friends.
@@mani-ei5kq yeah I agree… i still think little sister is a bit difficult to judge because 14 is still old enough to have decided to say something sooner imo? But then again I don’t know how bad the family’s pressure to keep the secret was so I can’t say much
I agree at 14 you know right from wrong. You would have known it was wrong to lie and hide this from the person who would be majorly impacted by the information, but at 14 you are also more easily peer pressured into things. But everyone else is just disgusting. Fully grown adults lied and hide this from op which is just disgusting. I cannot believe not even 1 family member didn't try to tell op about this. I know if I was in that family op wouldn't have been in the blind for 9 months. I would have told her immediately when I found out, someone in her family should have
It sounds harsh, but if they chose the friend over op on the first go-round, there was no reason for her to think they would choose her on the second. It's time to make her own family.
I might be mistaken but I think OP's mother and father were swingers with the BFF's parents or the boyfriend's parents. Which explains their levels of attachments but doesn't absolve them.
@@symonsan I was thinking they had to be something weird going on with them. But still she their own daughter? They act as if Ashely is their own daughter though.
Op's little sister seems to have taken the role of scapegoat once OP was no longer there to abuse. If you grow up as the family punching bag it's one thing (obviously nor a good one), but to become one at 14 because the last one had enough, it's understandable to feel resentful. Without proper therapy to learn and understand where those feelings should be aimed it also makes perfect sense that she'd initially aim it where the change was- OP. I'm glad the sister was able to process enough to realize OP was the victim not the victimizer. I hope that whole family continues to heal without a narcissist at the helm
It's not even the cheating that gets to me here, It's the almost 10 months of lies betrayal and deceit. Op's entire family knew and no one told her? Multiple friends and their siblings knew, and no one told her? They saw her going to parenting classes and standing up for her friend multiple times and just decided to keep their mouth shut? That is so utterly heartless. OP sounds like an amazing person, And literally everyone in her life took advantage of her. Were I a sibling of OP I would have given the ceaters an ultimatum to tell her within a week before I told.
OP's mom was probably emotionally controlling the father just as she was controlling her sister and possibly brothers as well. When she had a talk with her dad in 17 years , his eyes opened and he divorced that woman.. good riddance. And the fact that Op's mom and the ex's mom were the only ones pestering her all the time shows that they had no other job to do except sit with each other and start b*tching about other people and how their lives are ruined cuz of these kids. That's why they didn't want their relationship to break cuz then no one will listen to them. Lol
Honestly, I wouldn't even be surprised if she pushed the friendships/relationships with the other family's kids. Personally, I think the most disgusting thing about all this, is that OP was literally the only person who didn't know, and everyone (except the younger sister) was just willing to keep it a secret from her.
Actually they separated when she first got back in contact with her family. Reading the comments from the post, OP said they separated around the time she started visiting her family again. So Kyle probably wanted the one that got away and Ashley probably couldn't keep him. So Mom was trying to mend their relationship by having OP talk to them
OPs mom pissed me off with that, "I just want things to go back to the way they were," comment. To me, that means she either wants OP to be sad and miserable again or she has a time machine.
I think she's selfish and delusional enough to think that if OP is convinced to "change her mind" about what happened, she'll just be happy again and things will go back to like they used to be before OP found out about being cheated on. Basically, the Mom is putting it on her daughter being miserable that was the problem, so she thinks she can make her daughter just "be okay" with what happened and then everything will be fine, completely missing how the cheating and lying is NOT something you can just "get over".
The father probably wanted to divorce for a long time but didn't have the guts to do until recent. I'm happy that the OP is moving on because as the prevailing wisdom goes, the best revenge is a life well lived. And kudos to Dean , he has been Ops rock and deserves 👏🏻
she broke the first rule of no contact, maintaining no contact. You have literally nothing to gain from interacting with your abusers again but take all the possible risks involved. people don't change on a foundational level like this. The parents were filth and they stayed filth.
The dad changed, and her siblings changed. It's not unreasonable to try and mend a relationship after 15 years have passed and, if it doesn't go well, cutting off all contact again later.
@Doctor Oaks the dad didn't change, he was just not pushy about her rekindling her relationship. He still wasn't much of a father and had no issue remaining friends with the other toxic parents. I wasn't talking about the siblings because they weren't the abusers, the parents were.
@@zacharyjackson1829 He left the mother, cut off contact with those friends and acknowledged that they were in the wrong. That's a lot different. Sure it's to late now to have a close relationship with her, but he did change. Good on him to respect her boundaries and letting her choose how close she wants to be with him too.
This whole thing is awful, but the fact that the mom left her alone to go to the hospital is so concerning bc op could've potentially hurt herself (luckily she didn't). Absolutely showed no support to their daughter at all
This is what I was thinking! Like if OP was reported as a missing person, was a welfare check ever done to confirm to the parents OP was actually alive? Because OP vanishing on the night of the birth and going NC would have me assuming the worst
I was thinking this. If this had led her to harm herself or pushed her to do something worse to herself, it would already be too late by the time her mom gets home and would have been easily preventable if she stayed and supported her. I'm just glad it didn't go that route though.
Honestly, don’t even burn the letter. Send it back unopened Because I feel like that is the best way to convey the situation to them and send a clear message, they do not deserve the closure, they do not deserve the peace, they do not deserve anything from you. The nerve of them, to send a letter after everything that happened is a lot of nerve and this whole story had me shaking in anger. The nerve of the mom to try to scapegoat you, at every turn, and then call you selfish is disgusting beyond words and is one of the few times I justify violence. You should send that letter back unopened because it sends a clear message, they can’t fix it, they can’t resolve it, they can’t get closure, they can’t undo anymore that happened, she’s never gonna have her friend, your ex isn’t going to get off the hook, and you do not need to forgive any of them. You have moved on, make that your revenge. A life well lived while the relationships they all betrayed you for fall apart is the best thing you can do, above all, keep ur head held high❤
Op’s mom said she had to repair the relationship since Kyle and Ashley were emotionally impacted but when op was emotional of her friend’s betrayal they didn’t care. The hypocrisy is crazy.
First and only story: Wow...woooow. OP's family are horrible people. Kyle is an absolute scumbag and Ashley is an even bigger scumbag. They sleep together, Ashley gets pregnant and basically tricked OP in being there to support the child of her (then) bf. They hid this for pure selfish reasons. Then theres OP's parents and Kyle's parents; they are soooo worred about their "happy family" they want OP to just ignore her pain from this betrayal?! OP needs to just go no contact. OP's mom is absolutely insane and I think OP's dad seen it as well. None of what OP went through is irrelevant to her, she just wanted things to go back the way they were; only for her own actions to cause her to lose two of her daughters and her husband. The fact she called OP selfish for refusing to talk to the people who betrayed her is baffling. OP made the right call to go no contact with her mom
You know… There are some stories that I can’t help but return to listen to. The tale of Dan and his entitled family who tried to steal his brother’s house. The story of the kid who’s school tried to pressure him into doing an assignment so he could walk on his graduation (which, for the life of me, I can’t find). And the story of the parents who spoiled their daughter at the expense of their son for years till he turned 18 and finally spilled the beans, humiliating his parents and sending his sister to boarding school. This story… I think this is another favorite.
That’s what happened to me !! My ex cheated on me with my aunt and got her pregnant, found out three months in and my mom took them in , i was kicked out of the house because “ you cant control your emotions when you see them “ !! Dragged me for almost two years until I finally left to live with my bff in another city and was “ ruining the family and i will regret it “ . Met my husband and never been happier. The most painful thing I’ve ever experienced, choosing someone who hurt me so badly over me by the closest person in my life MY MOM !!… It broke me Till this day i cant be close with my mom and don’t trust her .
The thing that I actually feel good about OP leaving her family is that open up so many wounds that the family’s just dropped and honestly that’s the best justice for this situation
I'm glad OP was able to talk to their niece. I have aunts and uncles and other family members that I've never met or spoken to due to family drama who cut contact. I don't blame them for cutting contact with the family because the family truly was awful to them. But it always makes me a bit sad that I never got to know them even though I was born after the drama. I blame the family 100% and not the estranged relatives. So I'm happy to hear OP was able to talk to and make contact with their niece.
I second the notion of burning the letter. I’m highly doubting it was written out of a desire for personal recompense, but that Ashley and Kyle are hoping (in some wildly fucked up way) that OP will be okay with their relationship by now. Sucks that they shit the bed so badly at 18, but shit it they did and they don’t get a choice in how they deal with it. If OP wants nothing to do with them, then they need to cope with that.
If op completely lost it and went on a rampage I wouldn't even bat an eye at it. This is one of the most sickening and vile family stories I've ever heard.
She never cared about her Family, losing it isn't a big trauma for her~ As long that she still has her fingers in the friend group and is able to manipulate some of the families, she has enogh victims to pleasure herself off~
It's clear that the reason Kyle and Ashley marriage is in turmoil is because Kyle is still in love with Op and wanted to be with her but because he got Ashley pregnant and was forced to marry her so he harbored some resentment towards Ashley and her and Ops family. This was all triggered cuz he saw that Op was happily married to Dean with two kids of their own. So this trash human being is mad that Op was no longer available for them. Also this is a classic case of a narcissistic mom who only cares about herself and cares about her friends. She only wants control over Op and hates that she married an outsider. The rest of Ops family is slowly waking up to how messed up the entire friendships and relationships are here
The mom is actually insane to choose her friends over her family. The fact that she did not only once but then did it again 15 years later 💀 and then still tried to continue to do it even further down the line. She is basically unhelpable. I don’t fully agree with the notion of burning the letter but at the same time I’ve never been in OPs position In my life. In the end it’s up to her to decide her next step. But I’m glad most of her family came around and she was able to mend the relationships.
Dang, the OP's mom was so desperate to save her friendships that she got her husband to straight-up divorce her because she was so stubborn about it and went insane. Yikes. Literally, everyone left OP's mom including her friends apparently.
I have had the unfortunate thing that is called Raya and the Last Dragon. And one thing I learned is that the way they deal with forgiving people again is NEVER the way on how to do it. OP should NEVER had been the one to apologize and remend the relationship because literally everyone she loved before sodding off to another place betrayed her were the ones who should be doing it. Yet they never did.
This just made me physically ill. Poor OP, literally betrayed by everyone who was supposed to be supporting and loving towards her. Enjoy your husband, your kids, your new family and friends and let those scumbags rot in hell where they belong.
Pretty sure the youngest sister added an update too that explained Ashley and Kyle have always had relationship problems, OP was never the cause and OP's mom is just sick in head.
OP was betrayed by all the people in her life at only 18 years old. I can't understand how they feel comfortable with themselves; how do they even look in the mirror or have self worth? I think OP did the right thing in leaving. It must've taken a lot of guts, but something tells me she would've been in a worse environment in her young adult years if she had stayed.
This one just infuriated me! Her parents were just so invested in the ex boyfriends family, but I don't get why. The only connection was their older daughter was dating the older brother. It's just weird, and cruel. The poor OP was betrayed by almost every person she was close to.
Yeah I would have immediately cut contact with that family if their son did that to my daughter. I would even tell the "BFF" to go to a ditch and live there forever because she is not welcome in my house. My child will always be 1st priority and if that happened to her, I will be by her side and give her all the comfort and support I can give. I hope Kyle and Ashley have a hellish life and I hope one of them cheats because Ashley is a whore and so is Kyle.
OP is a much better person than I am. If I was her, I would wait until they lose their house and send them a postcard saying: I've heard you lost your house? Have you tried asking Kyle's and Ashley's parents for help, since they are such good friends of yours?
She isn't a good person, she is simply weak. She exposed her family to those disgusting traitors and her wussy of a husband didn't do crap to protect their children. Being a harmless little f*ck that dumps money in people that did nothing but hurt her doesn't make her good, indeed it makes her a horrible human being.
Am I slightly unhinged for the idea of “you should put that letter through the shredder unopened, and send it back in a new envelope”? I feel like that would be a bit of a very solid, very clear, “Get the ____ out of my life.”
I feel like the younger sister being angry and blaming the OP, is due to years of drama and pain and more than likely the mother blaming the younger sister for how the OP found out and other stuff. The mother seems real keen on making others scapegoats, except the people that fucked up in the first place.
I wouldn't be surprised if the reason the younger sister was mad at OP, was that she ended up receiving a lot of the blame for her leaving. And even though its not OPs fault for leaving a toxic situation, its easy to put the blame on the one involved versus the griup actually responsible.
I saw this first on the *Mark Narrations* channel, under _Best Friend and Boyfriend Betrayed Me, 15 Years Later Mom Is Demanding I Reconcile_ It still turns my stomach to hear it, that a family cares so much more about their life and how THEY want it to be, over how much pain and suffering all of this caused OP.
Honestly, while the drunk cheating was bad, it's the fact that they didn't rush to confess and apologize that I find the most hurtful. But since their parents are the same, guess they learned that awful behaviour at home! Makes one wonder how many other lies might be going on in their parents' friend group...
I had to scroll down way too far to finally find a comment talking about this. The cheating is bad, very bad but understandable and maybe, maybe forgivable (but never forgettable) but Ashley and mom letting OP go on being a good friend to these people without telling her is IMO even worse and truly unforgivable.
Can we all just take a minute to applaud OP for how far she's come and how much she's overcome due to the massive betrayal by literally EVERYONE in her life?! Talk about a strong person! ❤️
I read that as their way of saying "We know you'd feel bad and get upset, but we don't WANT you to feel that way since it would get in the way of our happy family, so we didn't tell you"
Yeah, what Ashley and Kyle did is absolutely disgusting and unforgivable. Them being drunk is a pathetic excuse for their infidelity. I hope they both live the rest of their life in guilt.
Mend a relationship with a bunch of cheaters? Nah doesn't work that way, don't force others to forgive people they don't want too or you'll find they'll never forgive you
i really love hearing her talk about dean. i love stories where two people dont immediately fall in love, where love takes time and forms strong roots over years. its really heartwarming. i hope they have a long, happy marriage.
I knew exactly how OPs parents were going to be as seen as she said that they were all friends with each other. You can make new friends but you can never replace your kid. What a horrible way to prioritize your life.
I feel like the parents are the biggest a-holes in that first story. First they hid this huge secret from their daughter which amplified the hurt and betrayal, then instead of being by their daughter and choosing her over their friends they just abandoned her to willow in her sadness. I feel that if they had dealt with this more maturely and had some empathy for their daughter it wouldn't have gone this far. It was a teen drunken mistake that showed the cracks in their family dynamic that ended up breaking them for good.
when OP mentioned that she was surprised at the fact that the niece was aware of some of the issues going on (not including the disaster), I got kind of confused. It's not at all strange for teenagers to be able to comprehend things like that, especially in this day and age. I'm sure the niece is capable of understanding the affair situation, and I feel like that's something she'll never know unless OP told her
I love how the mother's only motivation to be a terrible person was the fact she wanted to keep everything under her control. Think about it: - OP and boyfriend of three years were planning to get married. OP was okay with being a stay-at-home this way. Mom approved not because of OP's happiness, but because that way she will keep her close to her as well as all the families involved. - Boyfriend did the stupid and knocked OP's BFF up. Mom saw this as a threat to her nice and tidy relationships so she first tried to hide it from OP, then decided that keeping ex-boyfriend and ex-BFF and their families content will be better for her relationships. The few for the many, after all. All she had to do this way was convince OP to keep up with it for (her) greater good. - They filled missing person when OP ran away. It didn't go anywhere. - Once they were back 15 years later and after talking with each other for a while, Mom brought up her original plan to keep everyone together. Personally, I love that she didn't even try to hide the fact it was "her wishes". - In the end, everyone gets fed up with her. Mom lost her husband, her friends, and everything she probably has worked on keeping around for her entire life. Of course, she got anxious and depressed in the end because, it took one single person who decided to get away from her, for everything to fall appart and show her true colors. This is what narcissistic people deserve. It so sad that everyone else had to break in order to (hopefully) root her out of their lives.
OP's mom: "YOU'RE SELFISH! I WANT MY FAMILY BACK!" Op in my mind: "Well you should've thought about that before you cast me aside and supported a cheater!"
I think the reason that Dad chose to divorce the mom was because what little dignity he had left woke up and was like I can't do this anymore I lost two of my daughters who won't talk to me one has come back basically pleading with me I need to leave this woman.
People screw up. People make terrible decisions. I can accept that and maybe, I stress maybe even forgive it but to let her go on with her life like everything was fine, never telling her what happened, that is inexcusable.
18:18 how much do you wanna bet that the reason OP's parents are getting divorced is because he found out one of OP's siblings was never his biological child? Wouldn't be surprised if all of them, including OP, Kyle and Kyle's brother all aren't related to their supposed fathers based on both of the mother's behavior throughout all of this.
I totally second the idea of burning the letter. Its strangely cathartic to do by itself but you could also make a nicer thing of it by maybe having a campfire with your family and making smores (im really hungry rn)
I'd probably write a letter to them right after burning it. Short and simple, something like: "Hey strangers, I'm writing to you to let you know that I burned your letter, and that I will destroy any other form of mail you send to me. Do not contact me again" or "My apologies, Ally and Ken I believe? I do not recognize your names. Nor do I remember giving anyone with similar names my contact information. Do not contact me again or I will call the police. I do not take kindly to strangers having my contact information and using it to send me scam/prank mail, which is what I assume you did. Take care."
Disgusting that they claimed they kept it hidden to "not hurt her" when it clearly hurt even more than it would've otherwise, and they actively kept hurting her. What a bullshit excuse
I’m calling this before the update; they don’t want to “heal the family and friendship”. They want to buddy back up with OP to get that cold hard cash. They saw how OP was willing to help the parents out financially and want to get a piece of that gravy train.
The parents treated op like a child, not telling her the truth about someone she's choosing to spend her life with is majorly controlling. They did not have the right to keep op in the dark, and then they yell at her for having a reaction, which they could have helped with 9 months prior. I'm so glad op is out of that toxic controlling mess.
what I think happened with the younger sister: since it was because of her that OP learned about who the father of the baby is, when OP ran away she got blamed and all the negative emotions from the mother and the rest of the family focused on her. the mother probably kept telling her that it's her fault that OP is no longer with them. that in turn made the sister resent the OP. but, you know, that is just a theory based on the way the mother behaved throughout the story.
@@scpfoundation8376 for people like her it’s all about image. If someone in her family (husband, daughter, son, etc.) hates someone in her friends family it ruins the image of ‘two perfect families who likes each other’.
@@kaykay8855well those “Perfect families” kids shouldn’t have fucked up. They screwed everything up and somehow it’s OPs fault? Goes to show you that they were NEVER perfect, just constantly wearing masks until it slipped off.
@@scpfoundation8376 that’s the reality that they refuse to face. I was kind of disgusted that op’s sister said that she was mad that op left but then again she grew up with their mother’s toxic mentality especially since their mother was the one that told her not to tell op. Kids raised in toxic families mirror those behaviors.
I'm curious, where was Kyle during Ashley's pregnancy? OP talked about being by Ashley side during 99% of the pregnancy but where was Kyle at? Was he avoiding them both over what he has done or was he just straight up absent for the most of the 9 months.
Even though Kyle is the cheater that started all of this, somehow the real supervillain of this story is OPs mom. That lady sounds like an absolute psychopath.
I can't help but wonder what would have happened if her little sister had never voiced concern. If she had never found out... Would they have continued to let her remain clueless? Would she have married Kyle and then the two of them help Ashley raise her child because they were all bestfriends. How long would they have let the lie continue?! I know she ended up being extremely hurt, but I'm glad she found out. I'm glad she left and I'm glad she found Dean. Dean sounds like a truly amazing man.
I know that I’m sorry’s and I hope you’re ok’s and you’ve got this comments really don’t mean much when you are in the thick of awfulness all around. I in fact don’t know what to say that would make it better because a stranger on the internet really can’t. I don’t know you and you don’t know me, but I’ve been there and I am there at times. And I care. I really do hope you’re ok. People can be amazingly resilient and you can find strength where you least expect it. If there is anything I can do for you, please let me know ❤❤
I'll also say that judging by the nature of the parents, OPs younger sister easily could've been coerced into keeping the secret. Being a 14 year old girl is hard enough, and her family shouldn't have even involved her in such affairs
That, and if the others in on it were talking about it as well, she probably felt outnumbered. The rest of the family vote against telling her, she's gonna feel a LOT of pressure to go along with that.
Tbh if I got a letter like that I'd hand it over to my husband and have him read it. And see if its bad or not. If its bad then he can throw it and say "Its not worth your time of day or peace at mind". Its the only way to at least feel safe because maybe Ashley is trying to say sorry because it sounds like she had OP involved in the baby's life a lot before she found out. Having someone take care of you like that while youre pregnant with their bf's child makes no sense unless she was hellbent on keeping her friend more then Kyle. Which im guessing is the choice she may of wanted to have done but didnt when she kept the child. Idk if there was abortion access but she certainly didnt try that which is quite odd. I think OP if anything your mother was so scared she couldnt comprehend that she was choosing friends over her daughter. To lie, have family keep this secret and tell your siblings to lie for months...something tells me this isnt her first time. And i wouldn't be surprised if suddenly you found out she cheated on your father in the past. Keep yourself far from her but I say maybe after shes alone for more years she may finally see she was the complete bad egg of the whole bunch for what she did. I still would stay no contact though personally.
this is so horrible for OP she was betrayed 3 times all at once that's more than any one person should have to deal with... friend betrayed by sleeping with OP's boyfriend hiding it and keeping the kid knowing full well that'd hurt OP. boyfriend betrayed by sleeping with OP's friend and choosing to stay with the friend. family betrayed by keeping all this under wraps and choosing their friendships over their blood. after all that is it any wonder OP ran off but boy the younger sister sending texts that the baby and ex friend were fine was likely not what OP want to hear at the time in her raw anger (not that I'm wishing harm or anything) not one person in OP's old life realized that trying to keep things how they were would only have hurt OP given how no one considered her feelings in all this. side note anyone else feel they had that niece speak about the money troubles to OP so OP would feel obligated to come "rescue" them when in reality it was just a shallow attempt to get in contact with OP a guilt trip her.
Until it gets to OP seeing her family again. Dean was a failure of a father for allowing OP to even have a chance of exposing their kids to those filthy traitors. If they were so psychotically cold about using their own daughter what guarantees that they wouldn't do something worse to kids that they barely even know. It's disgusting.
@@VixyGirl this has to be a joke. I'm saying that OP wasn't harsh enough with the traitors. That the mistake she made was giving them a second chance. And you compare me to the little piece of scum that couldn't even cut the crap for his own child's sake? What's wrong with you? Kids go first, end of story. Don't care if it's your friends, your wife or your "family", kids go first and there isn't a single person in that story that I would personally trust with a child.
So Did OP's Dad divorce OP's Mom because Mom was crazy, or did he discover that Mom's friendships were 'friendships with benefits'? That some of the people at the core of this drama were half siblings? Occam's Razor says just go with 'crazy' but I've heard a lot of crazy shit by way of Reddit.
The moment the mother tried to guilt op into talking to kyle and ashley, my entire reaction was "nope, time to leave and go nc with the lot of them again" Btw, for anyone wishing Ashley and Kyle the same pain they brought op, its ok, it'll happen, if they cheat with you they'll cheat on you, and clearly neither of them have a problem with stepping out of the relationship, while they both will likely end up paranoid and possessive trying to keep the other from cheating. At least that's how it usually goes when two morally defunct people get together.
Only advice I can give…sadly, is cut all ties with your ex and your family and “best friend”, and go absolutely ZERO contact with them, and if possible, consider a restraining order against them, and try to find someone who won’t hurt you like this, and start your own family and make happy, life long memories with them 😞😔😭
Okay but here’s the thing. Ashley and Kyle are shit human beings. So not only did they cheat, Ashley let her friend get so involved and excited over this pregnancy, throw her a baby shower, all of the things OP listed, and Kyle was (I’m assuming) still with her and treating her like his girlfriend, and THEY BOTH KNEW AND DIDNT SAY ANYTHING?! That’s a whole different kind of torture. Wow.
The story: The fact that she was mentally distressed was because all the time she knew she did something horribly wrong, the boyfriend was a total a-hole, there's no other way to say it, and the family was equality of toxic for hidding the secret for so long. If I was OP, I would leave while causing as much physical damage as possible and flip the off every time they try to demand reconciliation. With the update: Now we see where the fire started to burn the bidges. Is because the mother is an absolutely toxic psychopath.
Which is what OP should have done for the wellbeing of her kids. I don't get why people are saying that Dean is a good person when he is wussy that should absolutely have put a stop to that.
@@VixyGirl are you saying that because I don't like those weakling who willingly exposed their kids to heartless psychos? You yankees sure think that the world is small. Where I come from we don't tolerate that kind of bs
Finding out everybody knew and were happily keeping you in the dark while you help and support the affair partner is a betrayal. Being shunned by family who are in active and blatant *favor* of the cheaters is unforgivable. I might almost feel sympathy for the sister, but that's honestly it. That bridge would have been napalmed for me during the "Happy Baby Day!" dinner.
My mind can’t comprehend these people betraying someone to this degree and are surprised she’s hurt, upset and cut contact. I wonder if OP’s mom would be ok if her own husband had a friend with either Kyle’s or Ashley’s mom and got one of them pregnant. Would she be as willing to help and willing to forgive so easily? I highly doubt it.
So the entire family spent months letting OP be made a fool of and are surprised when the relationship sucks. Honestly I'm surprised OP ever went back to talk to them again
The only reason is because look at the mom, she blamed. Ops little sister for leaving. So she was angry at her sister and her mom. Little sister purposely was being loud about the situation because she knew op had to know and didn't like keeping that a secret. The way the mom looks at it, is if ops sister kept quiet op would have never left so op little sister was angry that she was the only one getting blamed. Then she ran off too. You uhave to look at it through all sides not just op.
I was about to casually listen to this while I got ready for work, but then I checked the time stamps and now I’m on a mission to pour all my attention into this. I can’t miss a single detail.
This has got to be one of the worst betrayals I've ever seen since I started watching rSlash. Literally every set of parents at the beginning of the story were totally fine with covering up Kyle's cheating just to keep the peace, and were totally fine with selling OP on a major lie that everyone but her was allowed to know. OP's parents literally told her younger sister to keep the secret. The family members OP does talk to after all this are the lucky ones.
I’ve never been so mad, physically sick listening to a story. The majority of OPs family and “friends” are actually disgusting, vile, horrid.. insane people and I hope nothing good ever comes their way. Absolutely insane horrid behavior.
You know what’s actually selfish? Demanding other people work out differences so that your idea of ‘family’ is healed, even though the differences aren’t your own. The mom only cared about the image of the connected families, it seems, not the actual people in her family. The mom is the selfish one, not OP.
OP, you were betrayed, not only by Kyle and Ashley, but yours and their entire families as well. NONE OF THEM took your feelings into consideration. even after you took a step to reconnect, they insisted on violating your boundaries to make themselves feel better. If your niece hasn't learned the truth of what happened by now, it may be time to inform her. But for your won mental health, it's time to say goodbye, AGAIN! UPDATE: OP, I'm glad your able to have a relationship with your siblings, nieces and nephews and father (even if strained/rocky). I suspect your mother has/had a personality of being socially involved and being cut out a second time sent her over the edge. Her problem, not yours. As for Ashley's letter, let your husband read it and decide if it's anything you should know about, but give him guidelines on what you're willing to hear. All in all, go forth and live your best life.
I totally understand the parents siding with their friends and wanting OP to continue to date Kyle........if they are European royalty and if it is the 1700s and if the relationship will stop a war. Otherwise, put your child's happiness above your friendships and matchmaking meddling.
Bruhh you got me at the first half ngl
lol best comment I've seen here in a while
This was me at first: *raising frying pan*
Me after reading the rest of the comment: *slowly lowers the frying pan.* You had me in the first half
I’d still be a bit mad, but yeah, I’d get it 😂
had me at the first half ngl
Going to the hospital to support the girl who completely broke your daughter is so cold it's unbelievable. Sending a picture of the baby is just spiteful! wtf.
OP's mom is a selfish narcissist. NC for years and the first thing mom does is tries to berate OP into being friends with Ashley and Kyle?
Yeah that's one of the most horrible stories I've heard aside from rape and murder. The family alienated and abused this girl then wonder why she disappeared? Ugh no words, no good words at least. 😠😪
no, the first thing they did was try to squeeze her for $$$$, then the attempt at getting the friendship back together happened, how much you want to bet that the younger sister was pressured to contact OP in the first place for that reason? She said the younger sisters knowledge of the parents financial difficulties seemed odd.
@@mindcraftyD13 I cannot believe OP’s generosity of going back to her shit excuse of a “family” to offer financial support after what they did to her like god damn if that were me I’d be going back to rub shit in their face and burn their house down or something not offer HELP
@@mindcraftyD13 Not the younger sister, the niece. The younger sister was NC with her own family.
Yes. Sending a picture of the baby was on par with jabbing a knife into OP's back, then twisting it.
It's absolutely disgusting they don't even love their daughter enough to cut ties with the two traitors for her sake
All children deserve parents but not every parent deserves children
@@atheon596 I couldn't agree more
Man, that has got to be the piss icing on top of the shit cake here
Of course they didn't cut ties. They chose the trailers over their daughter before she found out, so of course they were going to choose the traitors over their daughter later.
I find it ironic how they keep accusing OP of being selfish but they’re the selfish ones for what they did and continue to do. Let them ruin themselves and never speak to them again.
Holy shit. That mom sounds like the type of person who would side with a rapist because "their my best friend" despite her kids being one of the victims.
She didn't just go to the birth while OP was suffering a breakdown, she didn't just go get a drink with the other family, she didn't just blame her for everything, She did ALL that then years later upon getting a second chance she didn't deserve; TRIED TO DO IT AGAIN! Did she have OP and her sisters JUST because her friends did? does she think being a parent is a social thing friends do on the same level as eating at the same place. Fuck, I kinda wish OP knew how little her mother cared about her earlier just so she could learn how to take the massively fucked up hit she got hit.
OH MY GOD YOUR SO RIGHT! Especially if it's her family
Holy fuck your 100% correct I definitely agree with you
I agree with this 100%
Agreed, when the OP finally had the heart to heart with you Dad. His fog got lifted. He finally saw what he and his wife did. I commend him for taking ownership. I commend him for trying to right the ship with his and his wife’s actions. In the end the only way to repair things with his daughter was to leave his wife. That must have been a hard realization. He’s no saint, but better late than never. I’ve no pity for the Mom. She made her choice. Now, she’s got to live with it. Newsflash, she can’t. She’ll still have her oldest daughter, Kyle’s family. Even though her status with them has diminished.
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With the letter... I'd have Dean read it. No one knows you better than him. He can read it unaffected and if there is anything you should know, he'll let you know. Then burn it after.
That what I was thinking. If Dean doesn’t want to deal with it, maybe OP’s therapist can read it and do the same.
Same but tbh, partly bc I want to know what it says 😅 My bet is that's an apology letter, for Ashley to clear her conscience, aka for Ashley's own benefit, and it wouldn't do OP any good.
This is what I suggested over on Lost Genre.
I would have to disagree. Because then if he doesn't tell her, she'd always wonder what it said, and might even pester him for it. If she just burns it, she may still wonder what if, but it's gone, and while tempted, she won't be able to find out, other than contacting Ashley, which she would never do.
@@AzureKyle You make some good points.
It's so insane how hypocritical OP's mom is she keeps calling OP selfish but she is by far one of the most selfish people ever, caring more about herself and her petty problems then the emotional state of her daughter. I feel so sorry for OP she was giving a horrible mother.
Exactly, who cares if your friend's daughter needs support. She made her bed, let her lay in it. That tough delivery was karma, it wasn't the baby's fault being conceive how she was. But life showing Ashley how she made a horrible mistake and the decision to keep it quiet. All the mom had to do was stay. It was simple, a decent mother would have just stayed instead of being there for a friend. She could easily have started restoring the trust. But she chose her friendship over her daughter. And when granddaughter got her aunt to come back to help. The mom tried to get her daughter to help restore that friendship. The mom deserves everything she is getting. Numerous choices she could have made, once she knows Kyle was the dad she could have waited while figuring out how to tell op. It is not bad trying to figure out how to tell your child crushing news. Instead she chose to keep it a secret cause it helped her friendship.
May Ashley have the life she deserves and more…
Imagine finding out someone you've been supporting non-stop selfishly stabbed you in the back.
Makes me convinced if OP could go back in time, she'd have withdrawn all that help. No consoling, no defending her from the bullies, no attending classes with her...just leave her to rot. You dont get to stab someone in the back, and then expect support
But really the betrayal of OPs family is actually worse. Imagine caring more about the culprit than the victim. They enabled the affair, and even when caught ordered OP to suck it up so they could continue their little fantasy of how everyone's happy together and singing koombaya.
OPs only mistake was to talk to them again. From the moment of discovering the betrayal the first time, she should've made being an orphan her new identity and never looked back
Update: OPs mom's a piece of work. "Waaaaaah I lost a lot of friends in high school waaaah" well now you lost two daughters, and a husband, and trust me more kids are out the door, have fun being a miserable old hag alone, once your bestie with her cheating son gets bored of you.
Honestly I think Ashley being super duper sorry would be even more insulting than her acting like she did nothing wrong. Because she had MANY opportunities to feel regret, little too late now.
Edit: Me and typing don't get along
I lost a lot of friends in high school, I was so unpopular no one knew me. I was jealous of kids who got bullied because at least people knew who they were.
But I would never let a shitty person like that hurt someone I care about, just to keep my friend numbers up. Because that’s not a real friend! Not if they treat the people you love like that
@@NicholeParker Sorry you went through that.
People's feelings due to past events are valid, but actively doing harm to others is a way to forfeit any entitlement to empathy, like OPs mom who abandoned her own daughter
It looks like you have an unfinished sentence in your top level comment. 🤪
@@Wolfie713 goddammit didn't notice that
if ashley was realllyyy sorry why did she marry kyle and have more kids? if they were “so ashamed”
Lets drop all to a side and applause Dean. My man literally did everything while havung a bad/strained relationship with his own family, and came out great both as a human and a man. He could just likely be a prick but he not only supported himself, he supported OP even before they got together. 10/10 would accept him as a bro.
Agreed, Dean is a pretty standup guy and a small kudos to OP's dad for finally getting out of the fog/coming to the light and noping away from his toxic ex wife.
Applause for what? For allowing OP to expose their children to the bunch of psychos? You tell me that your family did that crap to you and you want to reconnect with them and I'm filling for divorce. OP is a weakling, her family are traitors and Dean is wussy. They all suck. No matter what the kids go over yourself
He is definitely the type of guy I'd like to have a beer with or just sit on the back porch with some sweet tea and chat if he doesn't drink
I feel bad for Dean though she literally said she wasn’t in love with him when they married and that she was with him because he took care of her. The bro got used.
@@ryanbrown7597 absolutely no one seems to notice that detail. It's surprising that OP could be so cold for that but lost that coldness when it came to running back to her toxic family that betrayed her.
You know it’s going to be good when the whole episode is just ONE story
I love the long stories
Time to get the popcorn
yup. these are the best ones
Yep
Truee
I wasn't even halfway through the video and I was SEETHING with anger. Especially at OP's mother.
OP was betrayed not only by her ex and best friend, but their ENTIRE FAMILY, who apparently values their friends more than her. Absolutely disgusting.
OP is better off burning that letter and cutting off everyone who supported that betrayal. Let them rot.
I’m not normally one to suggest something like this, but in this case “pain for pain, blood for blood” comes to mind. You hurt me, you better believe I’m going to make you hurt even more if I can 😡🤬
What's even funny is that the two traitors are having marital problems. Their affair was out of lust, not love. OP showing up was a guilt trigger for them as they knew why things were falling apart around them.
she shouldnt burn it open it put the letter true the shredder and since the pieces back so its clear how she thinks about it
Same. It was just infuriating. The casual way she was treated by her parents while they continued to be all buddy buddy with the ex boyfriends family and be super involved in the birth is just sick.
And what's more, when her "friend" was pregnant and everyone knew who the dad was except for the OP, the parents must have witnessed the OP being happy to see her boyfriend when he picked her up for dates, came over to her house, etc, and thinking every thing was all okay. They are revolting people.
Yup I wasn't even that far but I'm absolutely pissed
ugh- i've read this story before and it still makes me genuinely physically nauseous how literally everyone in the op's life betrayed her- i can't even imagine
It's a disturbing mindset. Instead of protecting family from assholes, they chose to protect them from facing consequences. The other siblings and OP's dad are the only family members that are on OP's side since they see how horrible things have turned out.
@@LunaP1 and even then they’re only “on her side” once the other side had nothing to offer them anymore, lets be real :/
tbh, if I was OP, the only person I'd keep contact with would be the little sister. Like Rslash was saying, she was too young to carry on to a secret like that and was the only one to express any form of remorse before OP ran away. The other siblings and her father were all adults at the time and they should have known better than to try and hide something this damaging from their own sister in favor of a friend. Everyone's a traitor except the neice, the little sister, and Dean and his friends.
@@mani-ei5kq yeah I agree… i still think little sister is a bit difficult to judge because 14 is still old enough to have decided to say something sooner imo? But then again I don’t know how bad the family’s pressure to keep the secret was so I can’t say much
I agree at 14 you know right from wrong. You would have known it was wrong to lie and hide this from the person who would be majorly impacted by the information, but at 14 you are also more easily peer pressured into things. But everyone else is just disgusting. Fully grown adults lied and hide this from op which is just disgusting. I cannot believe not even 1 family member didn't try to tell op about this. I know if I was in that family op wouldn't have been in the blind for 9 months. I would have told her immediately when I found out, someone in her family should have
It sounds harsh, but if they chose the friend over op on the first go-round, there was no reason for her to think they would choose her on the second. It's time to make her own family.
What do you mean 'story 1'? This entire video is one single story.
@ZimonZieClown I typed it out of habit, I think. I realized after I hit sent and was just too lazy to correct it, lol
*fixed it
I might be mistaken but I think OP's mother and father were swingers with the BFF's parents or the boyfriend's parents. Which explains their levels of attachments but doesn't absolve them.
@@symonsan I was thinking they had to be something weird going on with them. But still she their own daughter? They act as if Ashely is their own daughter though.
@@summerdowlig So weirdly overly involved in the birth. Even worse, to the detriment to their own daughter.
Op's little sister seems to have taken the role of scapegoat once OP was no longer there to abuse. If you grow up as the family punching bag it's one thing (obviously nor a good one), but to become one at 14 because the last one had enough, it's understandable to feel resentful. Without proper therapy to learn and understand where those feelings should be aimed it also makes perfect sense that she'd initially aim it where the change was- OP. I'm glad the sister was able to process enough to realize OP was the victim not the victimizer. I hope that whole family continues to heal without a narcissist at the helm
This whole story is pretty much a Shakespearean tragedy
It's not even the cheating that gets to me here, It's the almost 10 months of lies betrayal and deceit. Op's entire family knew and no one told her? Multiple friends and their siblings knew, and no one told her? They saw her going to parenting classes and standing up for her friend multiple times and just decided to keep their mouth shut? That is so utterly heartless. OP sounds like an amazing person, And literally everyone in her life took advantage of her.
Were I a sibling of OP I would have given the ceaters an ultimatum to tell her within a week before I told.
OP is a weakling that willingly exposed her children to heartless traitors. There's nothing good about that
Except Dean. He didn't take advantage of her but went pretty slow.
@@sourisvoleur4854What did dean have to do with this?
OP's mom was probably emotionally controlling the father just as she was controlling her sister and possibly brothers as well. When she had a talk with her dad in 17 years , his eyes opened and he divorced that woman.. good riddance.
And the fact that Op's mom and the ex's mom were the only ones pestering her all the time shows that they had no other job to do except sit with each other and start b*tching about other people and how their lives are ruined cuz of these kids. That's why they didn't want their relationship to break cuz then no one will listen to them. Lol
birds of a feather, as they say
Honestly, I wouldn't even be surprised if she pushed the friendships/relationships with the other family's kids. Personally, I think the most disgusting thing about all this, is that OP was literally the only person who didn't know, and everyone (except the younger sister) was just willing to keep it a secret from her.
The only reason they want her to talk to Kyle and Ashley is because they need her blessing on their relationship
And it’s driving them (mostly the mon) crazy that OP isn’t giving her approval
Actually they separated when she first got back in contact with her family. Reading the comments from the post, OP said they separated around the time she started visiting her family again. So Kyle probably wanted the one that got away and Ashley probably couldn't keep him. So Mom was trying to mend their relationship by having OP talk to them
@@hardcorenativextreme was he not aware that the one that got away is now happily married with two kids three after her first visit back
@@madambutterfly1997 he probably was and just hated Ashley for preventing him to be where Dean is. Resentment has that affect
@@hardcorenativextreme but it took him 15 years and OP’s spontaneous disappearance to come to that conclusion
OPs mom pissed me off with that, "I just want things to go back to the way they were," comment. To me, that means she either wants OP to be sad and miserable again or she has a time machine.
I think she's selfish and delusional enough to think that if OP is convinced to "change her mind" about what happened, she'll just be happy again and things will go back to like they used to be before OP found out about being cheated on.
Basically, the Mom is putting it on her daughter being miserable that was the problem, so she thinks she can make her daughter just "be okay" with what happened and then everything will be fine, completely missing how the cheating and lying is NOT something you can just "get over".
The father probably wanted to divorce for a long time but didn't have the guts to do until recent. I'm happy that the OP is moving on because as the prevailing wisdom goes, the best revenge is a life well lived. And kudos to Dean , he has been Ops rock and deserves 👏🏻
she broke the first rule of no contact, maintaining no contact. You have literally nothing to gain from interacting with your abusers again but take all the possible risks involved.
people don't change on a foundational level like this. The parents were filth and they stayed filth.
The dad changed, and her siblings changed. It's not unreasonable to try and mend a relationship after 15 years have passed and, if it doesn't go well, cutting off all contact again later.
@Doctor Oaks the dad didn't change, he was just not pushy about her rekindling her relationship. He still wasn't much of a father and had no issue remaining friends with the other toxic parents. I wasn't talking about the siblings because they weren't the abusers, the parents were.
@@zacharyjackson1829 He left the mother, cut off contact with those friends and acknowledged that they were in the wrong. That's a lot different. Sure it's to late now to have a close relationship with her, but he did change. Good on him to respect her boundaries and letting her choose how close she wants to be with him too.
relationships are hard especially if the relationship is a family bond take it from me the black sheep of a difficult family
This whole thing is awful, but the fact that the mom left her alone to go to the hospital is so concerning bc op could've potentially hurt herself (luckily she didn't). Absolutely showed no support to their daughter at all
This is what I was thinking! Like if OP was reported as a missing person, was a welfare check ever done to confirm to the parents OP was actually alive? Because OP vanishing on the night of the birth and going NC would have me assuming the worst
I was thinking this. If this had led her to harm herself or pushed her to do something worse to herself, it would already be too late by the time her mom gets home and would have been easily preventable if she stayed and supported her. I'm just glad it didn't go that route though.
@@JewelWildmoonwe can thank her brain for that. It was too busy processing 10 month old events to think like that
Honestly, don’t even burn the letter. Send it back unopened
Because I feel like that is the best way to convey the situation to them and send a clear message, they do not deserve the closure, they do not deserve the peace, they do not deserve anything from you. The nerve of them, to send a letter after everything that happened is a lot of nerve and this whole story had me shaking in anger.
The nerve of the mom to try to scapegoat you, at every turn, and then call you selfish is disgusting beyond words and is one of the few times I justify violence.
You should send that letter back unopened because it sends a clear message, they can’t fix it, they can’t resolve it, they can’t get closure, they can’t undo anymore that happened, she’s never gonna have her friend, your ex isn’t going to get off the hook, and you do not need to forgive any of them.
You have moved on, make that your revenge. A life well lived while the relationships they all betrayed you for fall apart is the best thing you can do, above all, keep ur head held high❤
This is a great response.
Underrated comment. Well said.
And even if it isnt a peace offering leater, you get the same result
Op’s mom said she had to repair the relationship since Kyle and Ashley were emotionally impacted but when op was emotional of her friend’s betrayal they didn’t care. The hypocrisy is crazy.
The way that OP's mom is acting makes me wonder what kind of skeletons she [ op's mom ] has in her closet because the way she acts is weird
She sure sounds like Ashley's Mom controls her as she can't think of anything but the feelings of that woman over her own daughter.
THIS. Am I the only one who wonders wether she is secretly Ashley's mom? or Kyle's?
OMG YES I was wondering either she's Ashley's biological mother OR one of OPs siblings isn't a full blood sibling.
First and only story: Wow...woooow. OP's family are horrible people. Kyle is an absolute scumbag and Ashley is an even bigger scumbag. They sleep together, Ashley gets pregnant and basically tricked OP in being there to support the child of her (then) bf. They hid this for pure selfish reasons. Then theres OP's parents and Kyle's parents; they are soooo worred about their "happy family" they want OP to just ignore her pain from this betrayal?! OP needs to just go no contact. OP's mom is absolutely insane and I think OP's dad seen it as well. None of what OP went through is irrelevant to her, she just wanted things to go back the way they were; only for her own actions to cause her to lose two of her daughters and her husband. The fact she called OP selfish for refusing to talk to the people who betrayed her is baffling. OP made the right call to go no contact with her mom
You know…
There are some stories that I can’t help but return to listen to.
The tale of Dan and his entitled family who tried to steal his brother’s house.
The story of the kid who’s school tried to pressure him into doing an assignment so he could walk on his graduation (which, for the life of me, I can’t find).
And the story of the parents who spoiled their daughter at the expense of their son for years till he turned 18 and finally spilled the beans, humiliating his parents and sending his sister to boarding school.
This story… I think this is another favorite.
"Do it for Dan"
I'd buy a T-shirt of that phrase, that's how insane that story is to me.
That’s what happened to me !!
My ex cheated on me with my aunt and got her pregnant, found out three months in and my mom took them in , i was kicked out of the house because “ you cant control your emotions when you see them “ !!
Dragged me for almost two years until I finally left to live with my bff in another city and was “ ruining the family and i will regret it “ .
Met my husband and never been happier.
The most painful thing I’ve ever experienced, choosing someone who hurt me so badly over me by the closest person in my life MY MOM !!… It broke me
Till this day i cant be close with my mom and don’t trust her .
You shouldn't even contact her unless you are making her pay for her treason for getting something out of her. There's no going back from that.
@@Yumao420And enjoy it
Very, very much
The thing that I actually feel good about OP leaving her family is that open up so many wounds that the family’s just dropped and honestly that’s the best justice for this situation
I'm glad OP was able to talk to their niece. I have aunts and uncles and other family members that I've never met or spoken to due to family drama who cut contact. I don't blame them for cutting contact with the family because the family truly was awful to them. But it always makes me a bit sad that I never got to know them even though I was born after the drama. I blame the family 100% and not the estranged relatives. So I'm happy to hear OP was able to talk to and make contact with their niece.
I second the notion of burning the letter. I’m highly doubting it was written out of a desire for personal recompense, but that Ashley and Kyle are hoping (in some wildly fucked up way) that OP will be okay with their relationship by now. Sucks that they shit the bed so badly at 18, but shit it they did and they don’t get a choice in how they deal with it. If OP wants nothing to do with them, then they need to cope with that.
who needs enemies when you have friends like Ashley, a SO like Kyle, and family like OP,S
If op completely lost it and went on a rampage I wouldn't even bat an eye at it. This is one of the most sickening and vile family stories I've ever heard.
I’m glad that the mom got poetic justice. In an attempt to save one friendship, she lost her whole family.
She never cared about her Family, losing it isn't a big trauma for her~
As long that she still has her fingers in the friend group and is able to manipulate some of the families, she has enogh victims to pleasure herself off~
It's clear that the reason Kyle and Ashley marriage is in turmoil is because Kyle is still in love with Op and wanted to be with her but because he got Ashley pregnant and was forced to marry her so he harbored some resentment towards Ashley and her and Ops family. This was all triggered cuz he saw that Op was happily married to Dean with two kids of their own. So this trash human being is mad that Op was no longer available for them.
Also this is a classic case of a narcissistic mom who only cares about herself and cares about her friends. She only wants control over Op and hates that she married an outsider. The rest of Ops family is slowly waking up to how messed up the entire friendships and relationships are here
The mom is actually insane to choose her friends over her family. The fact that she did not only once but then did it again 15 years later 💀 and then still tried to continue to do it even further down the line. She is basically unhelpable. I don’t fully agree with the notion of burning the letter but at the same time I’ve never been in OPs position In my life. In the end it’s up to her to decide her next step. But I’m glad most of her family came around and she was able to mend the relationships.
Dang, the OP's mom was so desperate to save her friendships that she got her husband to straight-up divorce her because she was so stubborn about it and went insane. Yikes.
Literally, everyone left OP's mom including her friends apparently.
I have had the unfortunate thing that is called Raya and the Last Dragon. And one thing I learned is that the way they deal with forgiving people again is NEVER the way on how to do it. OP should NEVER had been the one to apologize and remend the relationship because literally everyone she loved before sodding off to another place betrayed her were the ones who should be doing it. Yet they never did.
Yes, preach. As someone who dealt with betrayals far too many times, it was hard for me to watch the film.
This just made me physically ill. Poor OP, literally betrayed by everyone who was supposed to be supporting and loving towards her. Enjoy your husband, your kids, your new family and friends and let those scumbags rot in hell where they belong.
Pretty sure the youngest sister added an update too that explained Ashley and Kyle have always had relationship problems, OP was never the cause and OP's mom is just sick in head.
Can you send the link to the post please? Haven't seen anything from the sister
OP was betrayed by all the people in her life at only 18 years old. I can't understand how they feel comfortable with themselves; how do they even look in the mirror or have self worth? I think OP did the right thing in leaving. It must've taken a lot of guts, but something tells me she would've been in a worse environment in her young adult years if she had stayed.
This one just infuriated me! Her parents were just so invested in the ex boyfriends family, but I don't get why. The only connection was their older daughter was dating the older brother. It's just weird, and cruel. The poor OP was betrayed by almost every person she was close to.
Yeah I would have immediately cut contact with that family if their son did that to my daughter. I would even tell the "BFF" to go to a ditch and live there forever because she is not welcome in my house. My child will always be 1st priority and if that happened to her, I will be by her side and give her all the comfort and support I can give. I hope Kyle and Ashley have a hellish life and I hope one of them cheats because Ashley is a whore and so is Kyle.
OP is a much better person than I am. If I was her, I would wait until they lose their house and send them a postcard saying: I've heard you lost your house? Have you tried asking Kyle's and Ashley's parents for help, since they are such good friends of yours?
You and me are right here 👁2👁. I get gutter when you cross me.
She isn't a good person, she is simply weak. She exposed her family to those disgusting traitors and her wussy of a husband didn't do crap to protect their children. Being a harmless little f*ck that dumps money in people that did nothing but hurt her doesn't make her good, indeed it makes her a horrible human being.
Am I slightly unhinged for the idea of “you should put that letter through the shredder unopened, and send it back in a new envelope”? I feel like that would be a bit of a very solid, very clear, “Get the ____ out of my life.”
I feel like the younger sister being angry and blaming the OP, is due to years of drama and pain and more than likely the mother blaming the younger sister for how the OP found out and other stuff. The mother seems real keen on making others scapegoats, except the people that fucked up in the first place.
I wouldn't be surprised if the reason the younger sister was mad at OP, was that she ended up receiving a lot of the blame for her leaving. And even though its not OPs fault for leaving a toxic situation, its easy to put the blame on the one involved versus the griup actually responsible.
I saw this first on the *Mark Narrations* channel, under _Best Friend and Boyfriend Betrayed Me, 15 Years Later Mom Is Demanding I Reconcile_
It still turns my stomach to hear it, that a family cares so much more about their life and how THEY want it to be, over how much pain and suffering all of this caused OP.
Honestly, while the drunk cheating was bad, it's the fact that they didn't rush to confess and apologize that I find the most hurtful. But since their parents are the same, guess they learned that awful behaviour at home! Makes one wonder how many other lies might be going on in their parents' friend group...
I had to scroll down way too far to finally find a comment talking about this. The cheating is bad, very bad but understandable and maybe, maybe forgivable (but never forgettable) but Ashley and mom letting OP go on being a good friend to these people without telling her is IMO even worse and truly unforgivable.
Can we all just take a minute to applaud OP for how far she's come and how much she's overcome due to the massive betrayal by literally EVERYONE in her life?! Talk about a strong person! ❤️
The excuse “we didn’t want to hurt you” by not telling op was equivalent of cutting their foot off so they don’t stub their toe
I read that as their way of saying "We know you'd feel bad and get upset, but we don't WANT you to feel that way since it would get in the way of our happy family, so we didn't tell you"
Yeah, what Ashley and Kyle did is absolutely disgusting and unforgivable. Them being drunk is a pathetic excuse for their infidelity. I hope they both live the rest of their life in guilt.
Mend a relationship with a bunch of cheaters? Nah doesn't work that way, don't force others to forgive people they don't want too or you'll find they'll never forgive you
i really love hearing her talk about dean. i love stories where two people dont immediately fall in love, where love takes time and forms strong roots over years. its really heartwarming. i hope they have a long, happy marriage.
I knew exactly how OPs parents were going to be as seen as she said that they were all friends with each other. You can make new friends but you can never replace your kid. What a horrible way to prioritize your life.
I feel like the parents are the biggest a-holes in that first story. First they hid this huge secret from their daughter which amplified the hurt and betrayal, then instead of being by their daughter and choosing her over their friends they just abandoned her to willow in her sadness. I feel that if they had dealt with this more maturely and had some empathy for their daughter it wouldn't have gone this far. It was a teen drunken mistake that showed the cracks in their family dynamic that ended up breaking them for good.
when OP mentioned that she was surprised at the fact that the niece was aware of some of the issues going on (not including the disaster), I got kind of confused. It's not at all strange for teenagers to be able to comprehend things like that, especially in this day and age. I'm sure the niece is capable of understanding the affair situation, and I feel like that's something she'll never know unless OP told her
I heard this whole saga. It seems op is doing better. I hope she has she does heal from this. For her own sake.
I love how the mother's only motivation to be a terrible person was the fact she wanted to keep everything under her control.
Think about it:
- OP and boyfriend of three years were planning to get married. OP was okay with being a stay-at-home this way. Mom approved not because of OP's happiness, but because that way she will keep her close to her as well as all the families involved.
- Boyfriend did the stupid and knocked OP's BFF up. Mom saw this as a threat to her nice and tidy relationships so she first tried to hide it from OP, then decided that keeping ex-boyfriend and ex-BFF and their families content will be better for her relationships. The few for the many, after all. All she had to do this way was convince OP to keep up with it for (her) greater good.
- They filled missing person when OP ran away. It didn't go anywhere.
- Once they were back 15 years later and after talking with each other for a while, Mom brought up her original plan to keep everyone together. Personally, I love that she didn't even try to hide the fact it was "her wishes".
- In the end, everyone gets fed up with her. Mom lost her husband, her friends, and everything she probably has worked on keeping around for her entire life. Of course, she got anxious and depressed in the end because, it took one single person who decided to get away from her, for everything to fall appart and show her true colors.
This is what narcissistic people deserve. It so sad that everyone else had to break in order to (hopefully) root her out of their lives.
OP's mom: "YOU'RE SELFISH! I WANT MY FAMILY BACK!"
Op in my mind: "Well you should've thought about that before you cast me aside and supported a cheater!"
I think the reason that Dad chose to divorce the mom was because what little dignity he had left woke up and was like I can't do this anymore I lost two of my daughters who won't talk to me one has come back basically pleading with me I need to leave this woman.
Who the 🤬does that to their best friend?! Who the 🤬does that with you’re girlfriends best friend?!
Toxic people do that
People screw up. People make terrible decisions. I can accept that and maybe, I stress maybe even forgive it but to let her go on with her life like everything was fine, never telling her what happened, that is inexcusable.
18:18 how much do you wanna bet that the reason OP's parents are getting divorced is because he found out one of OP's siblings was never his biological child? Wouldn't be surprised if all of them, including OP, Kyle and Kyle's brother all aren't related to their supposed fathers based on both of the mother's behavior throughout all of this.
I totally second the idea of burning the letter. Its strangely cathartic to do by itself but you could also make a nicer thing of it by maybe having a campfire with your family and making smores (im really hungry rn)
Damn, S’mores sound *REALLY* good rn… 😋
"The fire is ESPECIALLY warm today. Don't you agree?"
I'd probably write a letter to them right after burning it. Short and simple, something like:
"Hey strangers, I'm writing to you to let you know that I burned your letter, and that I will destroy any other form of mail you send to me. Do not contact me again"
or
"My apologies, Ally and Ken I believe? I do not recognize your names. Nor do I remember giving anyone with similar names my contact information. Do not contact me again or I will call the police. I do not take kindly to strangers having my contact information and using it to send me scam/prank mail, which is what I assume you did. Take care."
Disgusting that they claimed they kept it hidden to "not hurt her" when it clearly hurt even more than it would've otherwise, and they actively kept hurting her. What a bullshit excuse
I’m calling this before the update; they don’t want to “heal the family and friendship”. They want to buddy back up with OP to get that cold hard cash. They saw how OP was willing to help the parents out financially and want to get a piece of that gravy train.
The parents treated op like a child, not telling her the truth about someone she's choosing to spend her life with is majorly controlling. They did not have the right to keep op in the dark, and then they yell at her for having a reaction, which they could have helped with 9 months prior.
I'm so glad op is out of that toxic controlling mess.
what I think happened with the younger sister: since it was because of her that OP learned about who the father of the baby is, when OP ran away she got blamed and all the negative emotions from the mother and the rest of the family focused on her. the mother probably kept telling her that it's her fault that OP is no longer with them. that in turn made the sister resent the OP. but, you know, that is just a theory based on the way the mother behaved throughout the story.
Wait hold on, ex boyfriend - not related to Ops mom.
Ex BFF - Not related to OPs mom
WHY THE FUCK DOES OPS MON CARE ABOUT THEM?!
She’s prioritizing her friendship with ex’s family
@@kaykay8855Pathetic ex sue for a mother. Plus who cares if her daughter hates them, what does that have to do with the parents?
@@scpfoundation8376 for people like her it’s all about image. If someone in her family (husband, daughter, son, etc.) hates someone in her friends family it ruins the image of ‘two perfect families who likes each other’.
@@kaykay8855well those “Perfect families” kids shouldn’t have fucked up. They screwed everything up and somehow it’s OPs fault? Goes to show you that they were NEVER perfect, just constantly wearing masks until it slipped off.
@@scpfoundation8376 that’s the reality that they refuse to face. I was kind of disgusted that op’s sister said that she was mad that op left but then again she grew up with their mother’s toxic mentality especially since their mother was the one that told her not to tell op. Kids raised in toxic families mirror those behaviors.
I'm curious, where was Kyle during Ashley's pregnancy? OP talked about being by Ashley side during 99% of the pregnancy but where was Kyle at? Was he avoiding them both over what he has done or was he just straight up absent for the most of the 9 months.
Even though Kyle is the cheater that started all of this, somehow the real supervillain of this story is OPs mom. That lady sounds like an absolute psychopath.
I can't help but wonder what would have happened if her little sister had never voiced concern. If she had never found out... Would they have continued to let her remain clueless? Would she have married Kyle and then the two of them help Ashley raise her child because they were all bestfriends. How long would they have let the lie continue?!
I know she ended up being extremely hurt, but I'm glad she found out. I'm glad she left and I'm glad she found Dean. Dean sounds like a truly amazing man.
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He used weirder
It makes my chest hurt for some reason
Seriously. Rslash has some weird tastes.
We all get a little mad sometimes.
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I hope things start looking up
hope everything gets better for you 🙏🏻
keep your head up, friend. i'm sure you've got this.
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I know that I’m sorry’s and I hope you’re ok’s and you’ve got this comments really don’t mean much when you are in the thick of awfulness all around. I in fact don’t know what to say that would make it better because a stranger on the internet really can’t. I don’t know you and you don’t know me, but I’ve been there and I am there at times. And I care. I really do hope you’re ok. People can be amazingly resilient and you can find strength where you least expect it. If there is anything I can do for you, please let me know ❤❤
I'll also say that judging by the nature of the parents, OPs younger sister easily could've been coerced into keeping the secret. Being a 14 year old girl is hard enough, and her family shouldn't have even involved her in such affairs
That, and if the others in on it were talking about it as well, she probably felt outnumbered. The rest of the family vote against telling her, she's gonna feel a LOT of pressure to go along with that.
So annoying how the selfish ones keep telling OP they're selfish.
Edit: sodd off mom, they're not family anyways
Tbh if I got a letter like that I'd hand it over to my husband and have him read it. And see if its bad or not. If its bad then he can throw it and say "Its not worth your time of day or peace at mind".
Its the only way to at least feel safe because maybe Ashley is trying to say sorry because it sounds like she had OP involved in the baby's life a lot before she found out.
Having someone take care of you like that while youre pregnant with their bf's child makes no sense unless she was hellbent on keeping her friend more then Kyle.
Which im guessing is the choice she may of wanted to have done but didnt when she kept the child. Idk if there was abortion access but she certainly didnt try that which is quite odd.
I think OP if anything your mother was so scared she couldnt comprehend that she was choosing friends over her daughter.
To lie, have family keep this secret and tell your siblings to lie for months...something tells me this isnt her first time. And i wouldn't be surprised if suddenly you found out she cheated on your father in the past.
Keep yourself far from her but I say maybe after shes alone for more years she may finally see she was the complete bad egg of the whole bunch for what she did. I still would stay no contact though personally.
this is so horrible for OP she was betrayed 3 times all at once that's more than any one person should have to deal with...
friend betrayed by sleeping with OP's boyfriend hiding it and keeping the kid knowing full well that'd hurt OP.
boyfriend betrayed by sleeping with OP's friend and choosing to stay with the friend.
family betrayed by keeping all this under wraps and choosing their friendships over their blood.
after all that is it any wonder OP ran off but boy the younger sister sending texts that the baby and ex friend were fine was likely not what OP want to hear at the time in her raw anger (not that I'm wishing harm or anything) not one person in OP's old life realized that trying to keep things how they were would only have hurt OP given how no one considered her feelings in all this.
side note anyone else feel they had that niece speak about the money troubles to OP so OP would feel obligated to come "rescue" them when in reality it was just a shallow attempt to get in contact with OP a guilt trip her.
Listening to OP talk about her relationship with Dean was so wonderful. It was a breath of fresh air in the middle of a bafflingly fucked up story.
Until it gets to OP seeing her family again. Dean was a failure of a father for allowing OP to even have a chance of exposing their kids to those filthy traitors. If they were so psychotically cold about using their own daughter what guarantees that they wouldn't do something worse to kids that they barely even know. It's disgusting.
@@Yumao420 hi Kyle
@@VixyGirl this has to be a joke. I'm saying that OP wasn't harsh enough with the traitors. That the mistake she made was giving them a second chance. And you compare me to the little piece of scum that couldn't even cut the crap for his own child's sake? What's wrong with you? Kids go first, end of story. Don't care if it's your friends, your wife or your "family", kids go first and there isn't a single person in that story that I would personally trust with a child.
So Did OP's Dad divorce OP's Mom because Mom was crazy, or did he discover that Mom's friendships were 'friendships with benefits'? That some of the people at the core of this drama were half siblings? Occam's Razor says just go with 'crazy' but I've heard a lot of crazy shit by way of Reddit.
The drama-loving part of me wants OP to open the letter. But the compassionate human in me wants her to burn it.
Better to return it unopened
Op is really getting gaslit into feeling guilty when she genuinely doesnt deserve that.
"I just want my family back!!"
*Chooses friends over her family*
Considering how friendly the mom is with cheating makes me wonder if op and her siblings are all fully related
I'm so glad OP found Dean. Thank goodness she has _someone_ in her corner.
Edit
Okay. Dean and Little Sis.
The moment the mother tried to guilt op into talking to kyle and ashley, my entire reaction was "nope, time to leave and go nc with the lot of them again"
Btw, for anyone wishing Ashley and Kyle the same pain they brought op, its ok, it'll happen, if they cheat with you they'll cheat on you, and clearly neither of them have a problem with stepping out of the relationship, while they both will likely end up paranoid and possessive trying to keep the other from cheating. At least that's how it usually goes when two morally defunct people get together.
Ashley cheated with Kyle, and what makes Ashley think that she wouldn’t be cheated on?
And the entitlement of those people 😮
Only advice I can give…sadly, is cut all ties with your ex and your family and “best friend”, and go absolutely ZERO contact with them, and if possible, consider a restraining order against them, and try to find someone who won’t hurt you like this, and start your own family and make happy, life long memories with them 😞😔😭
Okay but here’s the thing. Ashley and Kyle are shit human beings. So not only did they cheat, Ashley let her friend get so involved and excited over this pregnancy, throw her a baby shower, all of the things OP listed, and Kyle was (I’m assuming) still with her and treating her like his girlfriend, and THEY BOTH KNEW AND DIDNT SAY ANYTHING?!
That’s a whole different kind of torture. Wow.
With friends like that, who needs enemies. If you ever read this OP, you are rocking it. Power to you, let them sink by their own weight.
The story: The fact that she was mentally distressed was because all the time she knew she did something horribly wrong, the boyfriend was a total a-hole, there's no other way to say it, and the family was equality of toxic for hidding the secret for so long. If I was OP, I would leave while causing as much physical damage as possible and flip the off every time they try to demand reconciliation.
With the update: Now we see where the fire started to burn the bidges. Is because the mother is an absolutely toxic psychopath.
Which is what OP should have done for the wellbeing of her kids. I don't get why people are saying that Dean is a good person when he is wussy that should absolutely have put a stop to that.
@@Yumao420 hi Kyle
@@VixyGirl are you saying that because I don't like those weakling who willingly exposed their kids to heartless psychos? You yankees sure think that the world is small. Where I come from we don't tolerate that kind of bs
Finding out everybody knew and were happily keeping you in the dark while you help and support the affair partner is a betrayal.
Being shunned by family who are in active and blatant *favor* of the cheaters is unforgivable.
I might almost feel sympathy for the sister, but that's honestly it. That bridge would have been napalmed for me during the "Happy Baby Day!" dinner.
My mind can’t comprehend these people betraying someone to this degree and are surprised she’s hurt, upset and cut contact.
I wonder if OP’s mom would be ok if her own husband had a friend with either Kyle’s or Ashley’s mom and got one of them pregnant. Would she be as willing to help and willing to forgive so easily? I highly doubt it.
So the entire family spent months letting OP be made a fool of and are surprised when the relationship sucks. Honestly I'm surprised OP ever went back to talk to them again
Now the little sister is the scum-of-the-earth how dare she be upset that you rightfully walked out when literally no one had your back.
The only reason is because look at the mom, she blamed. Ops little sister for leaving. So she was angry at her sister and her mom. Little sister purposely was being loud about the situation because she knew op had to know and didn't like keeping that a secret. The way the mom looks at it, is if ops sister kept quiet op would have never left so op little sister was angry that she was the only one getting blamed. Then she ran off too. You uhave to look at it through all sides not just op.
I understand with what you said... but you could have also made it more obvious it was sarcasm
I was about to casually listen to this while I got ready for work, but then I checked the time stamps and now I’m on a mission to pour all my attention into this. I can’t miss a single detail.
I’m so happy that OP’s deciding to keep her peace now. She posted an update on Reddit today.
This has got to be one of the worst betrayals I've ever seen since I started watching rSlash. Literally every set of parents at the beginning of the story were totally fine with covering up Kyle's cheating just to keep the peace, and were totally fine with selling OP on a major lie that everyone but her was allowed to know. OP's parents literally told her younger sister to keep the secret. The family members OP does talk to after all this are the lucky ones.
I’ve never been so mad, physically sick listening to a story. The majority of OPs family and “friends” are actually disgusting, vile, horrid.. insane people and I hope nothing good ever comes their way. Absolutely insane horrid behavior.
You know what’s actually selfish? Demanding other people work out differences so that your idea of ‘family’ is healed, even though the differences aren’t your own.
The mom only cared about the image of the connected families, it seems, not the actual people in her family. The mom is the selfish one, not OP.
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OP, you were betrayed, not only by Kyle and Ashley, but yours and their entire families as well. NONE OF THEM took your feelings into consideration. even after you took a step to reconnect, they insisted on violating your boundaries to make themselves feel better. If your niece hasn't learned the truth of what happened by now, it may be time to inform her. But for your won mental health, it's time to say goodbye, AGAIN!
UPDATE: OP, I'm glad your able to have a relationship with your siblings, nieces and nephews and father (even if strained/rocky). I suspect your mother has/had a personality of being socially involved and being cut out a second time sent her over the edge. Her problem, not yours. As for Ashley's letter, let your husband read it and decide if it's anything you should know about, but give him guidelines on what you're willing to hear. All in all, go forth and live your best life.