I have a similar set and I want to tell everyone that who may not know. Snow won't melt off these so after a while you'll loose alot of light, "Ask me how I know". LEDs don't emit much heat in the light Patten. Instead the heat transfers from the led base it's self. Hence the heatsink.
Thanks for the video! I installed the Rigid Industries LED headlights on my Cherokee about two years ago. They are stupid expensive but I would purchase again considering they have a three year warranty and they're more durable than their glass counterpart. I absolutely love them however, they have one flaw, snow and ice will build up on them.
I got a set of those amazon special multi-LED 5x7 (multiple sellers, they're around $40/set), I on rare occasions get flashed, they've been on the heep for about 2 years, they have very good over-all performance, they don't have the same hard-cutoff that yours do, and they probably trend a bit higher on low-beam. My fog-lights are actually set up to give me a wider cast so I can really see what's around those bends on I-5 in southern oregon. Sometimes the combo between them pisses off the truckers on the other-side. These do look like they have better beam quality than the other ones.
Just finished installing mine when I saw this video. So far I like them. I can't imagine the crystal clear plastic will stay that way for long. For less than $100, I'm satisfied.
I bought set of cheapo 5x7's off ebay for my 1990 Toyota Pickup. For $100 + $20 for the conversion wire harness from Amazon, I couldn't be happier. So much better than the old halogens.
So I just started watching in kitchen..... Wife Is washing dishes ...... She says does he have a hard time speaking..... I replied no he's reading Chinese instructions......... She replies. WTF ......
My wife’s 2011 Lexus GX 460 has stock HID projectors. It has the same cutoff line. It makes it a little spooky driving on dark country roads with just the low beams. The projectors make for a pretty sharp box of light. It took some getting used to but now I love them. We always run the fog lights to fill in the gap from the front bumper out to the headlight beam. I would suggest adding some flood beams pointing down to illuminate the dark space directly in front of the vehicle.
Look's like a pretty big upgrade, that being said there's lots of room for improvement in the optics. I use some phillips led's in my XJ, they are the same as the trucklites. I can't really compare brightness to what you have, but the pattern is damn near perfect. Clean cutoff with a uptick on the right side for signs and viewing roadside, no dark or hotspots (other then what's there from the grill's in front of them) Even with heavy expanded metal in front there are more then bright enough to not need a lightbar. They were not cheap, but are also in a completely different league then these. A few technical notes, the more light you have up close, the more your eye's adjust to that level of illumination and your distance vision suffers. A extreme example is what happens when you turn the dome light on, or have a lightbar on the roof lighting up your hood. On the upside, if you have sensitive eyes having a lot of light up close can help diminish eye fatigue\pain from poorly aimed or hid's in halogen housings in the oncoming lane. If my car had 5x7's i'd install trucklites in a heartbeat, sadly most vehicles have specific housings now, so proper retrofits of lighting upgrades is near impossible (unless your car has a factory option for such)
The eyes adjusting as you described is exactly what we experienced and made these sketchy to drive with on the low beam setting. We could not see a darn thing beyond the harsh cut off line.
I bought these a few months back. I've been fairly happy with them so far. I hate the weird shadow projection between the vehicle and the headlight "spot" but the sides are great. Lots of deer where I live as well. Driving with them in the snow DO NOT turn the brights on. I also aligned mine using measuring tape/ garage door and tape. I'll be lifting my Cherokee this week and will have to realign them again to avoid blinding drivers. I also drive during nighttime hours each day during the winter so I'm also always looking for something better but not 5-600 dollars. (Qtec, trucklites)
Run your halogens in the winter they put off heat and the yellower light cuts the snow better and wont snow and ice over ....ask me how I know. All my leds are rendered useless in snow storms in my 34 mile oneway commute. Unless you run heated leds regular non heated lamps/bulbs will be unsafe. Just my real world experience 2 cents lol. Have a great thanksgiving and keep the great content coming.
That's why I use 100 watt bulbs in my Hellas - better defrosting in the winter time ;). It was 10 degrees today and a quick run to the grocery store had my driving beams nice and defrosted :-)
Great comparison video! I recently purchased a brand new Subaru Forester with the base model halogen headlamps and was very underwhelmed by their performance. I ended up installing a pair of hella 700ff with 100 watt bulbs. For those interested I chose the European driving lamp pattern. I went this way because I really have a tough time with artifacting and most of these aftermarket lamp options have too strange of a beam pattern for me. Keeping everything halogen and using quality glass means that when I flip the switch I get more light but it's the same quality as the OEM which means it doesn't seem distracting. Sealed beam bulbs definitely suck (I'm a Audi 4000 guy!) And the solution has always been adding auxiliary driving lamps. Based on your review and the side-by-side comparisons I think I made the right choice with the hella 700ff and I think the combination with the hundred watt bulbs maybe set me back 80 bucks total. Obviously adding auxiliary lamps won't do you any favors when your on low beams, and some areas have pretty strict rules about running auxiliary driving lamps on the roads -but for me, in Vermont it works pretty well! one thing to consider if you choose to install a pair of aftermarket lamps is the quality of the harness and I'm glad that you took the time to point out the connectors. One thing that I do with pretty much every aftermarket lamp I install is that I tend to remove the housing and replace the wiring from the bulb all the way back to whatever relay I'm using to trigger the lamps. Many people would be surprised to find out that their driving lamps may draw close to 20 amps! I typically use 14 gauge wire if I'm installing 100 watt bulbs and doing independent runs back to the relay or if I'm wiring a multi lamp installation I'll use a 10 gauge primary wire to the installation location and then run 14 gauge from there. Because getting water in your electronics sucks, I always keep a couple packages of spark plug grease in my glove box so I can give it a healthy dollop if I pull connections apart on the trail or during a roadside repair. Overall I really appreciate your video and I think your channel is excellent! I will be installing a brace of lamps on my Jeep CJ7 in the spring and I think the side by side comparison has informed my choice about not going with one of these multi emitter lamp units.
Interesting, I reviewed the same headlights in my channel couple of months ago. I’m very happy with them so far no problems. The people that bought them after my video review seem to like them as well 👍🏻
@@bleepinjeep My only major concern with my LED plans has been how they hold up in the winter/extreme cold. even crowd favorites like the sleek Truck-lites haven't been updated like JW speaker has and it seems like they refuse to include some sort of heating mechanism to keep the truck-lite's from failing in cold weather. These seem to have a decent spread on them, unlike most cheaper LED setups, plus name-brands tend to be way overpriced.
@@MrRickChase Not sure about failing because of cold but I've had the lens freeze over where you can't see crap. The leds were still working but it turned into driving by a bic lighter.
@@user-neo71665 good to know it at least doesnt short/fail, but with LEDs not getting warm enough to melt the frost, i'm still feeling partial to investing on a pair, until companies realize "oh, maybe we should heat these bad boys"
Can confirm. Put Chinese LEDs on my JK and sealed the edge of the housing, back of the housing where the wires go in, and backside of the harness. They've stayed bone dry on a rainy tropical island and 2 typhoons.
I went from h4 conversion to these same light after a deer vs. Jeep incident and i absolutely love them. Sure, there are better pricier options, but for the money, im more than impressed... now lets see how long they last.. its been about a month so far and still working. Great review
@@VT5874 installed in another xj cuz the original got wrecked and they still work like the day I got them. I'd definitely recommend them for anyone on a tight budget.
Regarding the dim spots and driving in snow/rain: I just put a similar set of LEDs in my XJ, but I've also been running with Rigid Industries fog lights and they are PHENOMENAL. They fill in all of the rest of your area of vision and have an extremely wide angle allowing you to see the ditch with ease. It seems like these headlights and the Rigid Industries fog lights would be a winning combo for you!
These are a ripoff Chinese version of the JW Speaker Cherokee headlights. As other comments have mentioned, you'll probably want to make sure these are sealed properly if you plan on using them long term. I bought similar cheap JW ripoff lights for my JK, and they lasted about 6 months before they started having issues. Switched them out for the real deal this weekend and the difference is night and day (plus, I love supporting an American company), hope these work out for you.
I bought the truck-lite knock offs about a year ago. This was after going with h4 conversion housings and h4 leds. I am very happy with the truck-lite wanna bes. They have not clouded up or got any water in the light itself.
I had a cheap pair of LEDs for my JK and your description of the branding and vertical light is exactly what I was getting from mine. Threw them away. Ended up with Tuff Plus A0101which were a couple bills. Yes, they are 7" rounds but they are awesome! So there are good budget lights on the market.
I upgraded my 2010 JK to an unbranded set of 7" round LED's the difference being they are not the projector style like yours. They have crazy bright output and on high beam you can see the tops of trees. Similarly they do have a more distinct cut off line and I do get flashed from time to time even though I have them adjusted as low as I can go. The factory headlights were notoriously abysmal but now I can see the road so I am very happy with the new LED's. They do exhibit a slight flicker occasionally but not enough to annoy me more than the poor output of the originals.
I literally bought these a couple of weeks ago and love them. My only complaint is the lens is pretty thin. Other than that they work amazing over any halogens
Have these same ones. I wasn’t used to the cut off but these lights have been doing me great. Super bright and so problems with fogging of the lights so far
I have the same lights, been using them for several months now, when I first installed them I noticed the dark spots alot as well, I got used to them they definitely work well for the price
Have found that there are a lot of quick to market companies trying to capitalize on well engineered products and unfortunately fall short of the engineering aspect. I like what the guys at Rugged Retrofits did utilizing existing projector housings and incorporating them into the 5x7 package. It's an HID set up that was plug and play with everything you'll need and a choice of bulb color/temperature. I opted for the 6K and with the proper cut off lines it's not annoying to oncoming traffic or those in front of you and provides all the light you'll need on the highway. I've have run just the headlights without my light bar on the trail with plenty of light.
I just installed these same lights. They look great. However, they do not get warm enough to melt snow. If you live in an area that gets a lot of snow, you will be hopping out to clear the snow off of them.... frequently!
For about $120 you can get yourself a headlight harness and some Hellas that will treat you right. Nothing special but those LEDs won't work for us in the great northeast in the snow. I'm sure folks will appreciate you testing these as we all consider it at some point but realistically we just want to see you bust some glass housings in your driveway again =] ps I'm sure the cherokee community would appreciate a true how-to for aiming headlights, didn't quite get into the actual measurements in your other vid. Sure there are hundreds of BJ influenced lifts out there blinding half the country lol
I have had trucklite led headlights for about 6 years in Maine. One has condensation in it, which is annoying considering the price, but they work otherwise.
Great video man! thanks for taking the time. Mine are arriving today for my 2001 XJ. Mine isn't lifted and on your set up so I'm thinking the lighting pattern will work better for me.
Prug an pray! Had purchased one for my Harley that came in a similar box, same color from China. Also bought A set of fog lights for my truck. Both were setting off sensors and fogging up inside like many people have complained about. Love there rook on RUclips for information lmao!!! I also have one fog light filled halfway with water 💦
I've got the Trucklite knock offs (the one with the divider across the middle) and love them. The 90 dollar buy in was a huge bonus. At this point all of my lighting has gone LED except for my gauge lights.
I have a similar light on my TJ. I love them. I had the KC upgrade before and these are definitely brighter. I did have to adjust mine down a bit but it works. I only paid 80 for mine. The only thing I don't understand is the high beam being on the bottom. When I put the high beams on I see a lot better right in front of the jeep especially in raining situations. I've heard winter will be a pain though since these lights don't emit a lot of heat. Just waiting for the snow that was promised in ogden so I can test that. I too kept my previous lights just in case
I don't have LED, but I did the harness upgrade with H4 upgraded housings with Xenon lights and they work very well for me. I did have to re aim my headlights due to blinding everyone. I was able to see everything inside a car in front of me at night. The original headlights I didn't bother to re aim after my lift because they were so dull it didn't really matter, my setup now changed that real quick. Wanted to try LED but maybe I will keep these H4 housings and replace the bulbs with some led H4 style bulbs and see how that works
theres a lot of similar ones for 30-40 on ebay/amazon and they almost all work great. best cheap upgrade, no reason to keep your stock ones besides snow not melting with led ones
I bought led lights (bulbs only 35$ eBay)for my Hyundai 2002 that I use for work asoon as I bought it 4yrs ago. Definitely work it. Haven't gone bad at all . Is been 4yrs already if they go bad now it was definitely worth the 35$ I paid . It was easy to put in. Just remove the old bulb n place new one n plug them and your all set. I recommend getting them they are really great I use 6000k-6500k white
I got these same lights and was initially disappointed. They are very bright and appeared exactly like in this video. But he needs to adjust the beam higher like i did and now i couldn't be happier. Because of its sharp cutoff, at 25 ft. away i was able to adjust the beam only slightly below the center line and could now clearly see several hundred feet down the road. And as long as you have them aimed slightly to the right you won't get flashed. I haven't yet. I tried silverstars but they only lasted about a year. I hope these last the claimed 50,000 hours.
When i bought me XJ the headlights were cheap Amazon LED's. I live in CO in the mountains so they would ice up after 5 minutes of driving and visibility got scary. I upgraded to jeated LEDs - JW Speaker 8910 Evo 2. One pf the best upgrades I've done. Jas a modern V shaped beam pattern and the heated element works. Upgrade the wiring harness as well, I have the Jeepcables.
Have these in my stock xj and had to aim them down a bit liked them so much I bought a round set and put them I my 77 power wagon but I had to open up the back of the light buckets for the heat sinks
HA! Great video. Thanks! My favorite line was, "I've got new headlights and now I can't see anything..." Thanks again. Very informative and it will help with my new headlight purchase. :-)
Since they have such a strong cutoff, I would adjust them up for more projection and not worry about blinding others, unless you get flashed of course. Based on what I've seen, I'll stick with Halogens. If you want more side light, add fog/auxiliary lights on the bumper, which have a narrow vertical, wide horizontal beam pattern.
This is exactly what I opted to do - Hella 700FF Euro beam pattern with 100 watt bulbs. It's crazy that you can have more usable light while looking less bright at the same time. But I also don't mind globbing extra lamps all over my cars and Jeep, and it is legal in my state to do so.
I ended up buying these after this video like 2+ years ago, they worked excellent til I traded the XJ away. Now that I have a YJ again, going either buy another set or see if anyone has come out with anything better.
My dad has Halogens H4 lights and he said they are the best in the market and has lead glass and I can say it’s not LED so it’s not dim but hell that light can project hella far and has a good side lighting and without blinding other drivers and he said the only problem is that he doesn’t need any other lights to replace it , like getting a light bar so I think that can beat those LEDs but idk
Wow. Trying to read comments about the LED light experience and I'm bombarded by a bunch of whining over premier's. Felt like I somehow ended up in the comments section of a left wing my panties are in a wad video
I recommend Sylvania SilverStar High Performance bulbs. They are Halogen but are alot brighter the standard bulbs. They give a pattern used to, but are brighter. They are about $50 for a pair of bulbs.
From what I've learned.. With LED headlights their great in the winter, until you build up a bunch of snow in the lenses and theirs no heat to melt the snow. Just gotta clean them off every so often
You do realize the vast majority of vehicles produced today, even the shittiest of shitty cars from Korea are coming with LED or "HID" Xenon headlights that produce little to no discernible heat on the lens...........Right??
i went the Hella E code housing + headlight harness route and im glad I did. Works basically the same as stock bulbs but you have a better brighter beam pattern and a wide range of bulb options
My CJ7 has the glass hella units for my main hi/low and they are a big improvement... When my original (and badly butchered) stock chassis harness doesn't let me down. Time to get out my de pinning tools... *Sigh*
Tanner you are 100% correct! The challenge is if you choose to go with a different bulb. The standard bulb provided by hella is a 55 watt which will be about 8A in the (or something). If you go to a hundred watt bulb or a hundred 50 watt bulb you need to make your own harness because the wires provided by hella would not be appropriate. I do like that hella is an awesome company and always sends their harnesses out with Bosch relays - definitely one of the better ones in my personal experience! I personally end up discarding the harness that comes with the lamp kits and make my own even if I'm sticking with stock bulbs because then I can have the capacity to uprate my bulbs without the hassle of tearing out all my wiring :-)
I'd have to check to see if they make em for Xj but I have the Kc halogen housings with led retrofit bulbs in my Tj. Came out to be about 120 dollars total but they look pretty stock (I wanted that not wild about the cyborg look on a Tj) and have a great light pattern and are extremely bright . Haven't been flashed yet. I did adjust them down some but I believe I would have had to do that with the KC housings and halogen bulbs by their selves.
I bought a XJ as my first car and the first time i went for a drive i realized i didn’t have my lights on then i got out and check and they were sure on just not bright what so ever.
I have cheapo LEDs as well with a pretty similar beam pattern but mine are more blue than that. You kinda get used to the weird cut offs. And honestly, the flick between low and high is so much better. The old ones felt like they turned off for a second while switching but the LEDs are immediate.
I have a couple questions I need help with ! 1. What would cause my Jeeps hazards to turn on when I turn on my left blinker 2. Why is my door lock on my passenger door stuck in the lock position but they door stays unlocked Thanks for your help.
Don't feel bad, my wife told me if I don't replace my 15 plus yr old headlights she will bust them to make me lol. They have sand in the bottom of them from being submerged so many times and one is black for some reason
I run an aftermarket oem style housing with an led bulb. I’ve found that’s the best. Has a crystal clear lens. I’ve tried all the eBay and Amazon leds and a few truckite headlights. My combo now has been the best.
I have these also, however my toyota pickup (1973) is getting a complete rmake so it will be a while before I can comment. From what I saw in your vid, looks to me it might be wirth tweeking the directional screws for the lamps. I bet you can get it a bit better overall doing that.
I have installed these on my 96 XJ about a month ago and I have noticed that my battery is charging better than before which is kinda strange because they are 110w and the stock lights are 55w. Also my headlight switch must be on the way out because when I turn them on sometimes I have to wiggle the switch to get it to work. The cut off line takes some getting used to but overall I am happy with them.
You will never go back to the old headlights TIM ..I have auxbeam style headlights in my Cherokee they work great .they only down side is they don't create any heat to melt snow or ice off the lights.
I always thought these looked sick they look way better then the chrome ones everyone's got the ones with 3 rows Leds . P0 had put those on mine and been thinking about getting a set of those In the video they have them for about $50 or less now
I find that the generic ones from ebay for $30 each are the best cheap lights to go with as they project a nice even beam instead of having a bright spot like those do
Have the headlights been adjusted to compensate for the lift? I wonder if the "downhill issue" you guys mentioned would be resolved with adjustment/alignment.
Im most impressed that his wife is in the vehicle with him enjoying herself and wanted to be there.
Right!
I have a similar set and I want to tell everyone that who may not know. Snow won't melt off these so after a while you'll loose alot of light, "Ask me how I know". LEDs don't emit much heat in the light Patten. Instead the heat transfers from the led base it's self. Hence the heatsink.
I bought these exact same headlights on amazon and they actually supprised me on quality. They work pretty well, are built nice, and are super bright
Thanks for the video! I installed the Rigid Industries LED headlights on my Cherokee about two years ago. They are stupid expensive but I would purchase again considering they have a three year warranty and they're more durable than their glass counterpart. I absolutely love them however, they have one flaw, snow and ice will build up on them.
I got a set of those amazon special multi-LED 5x7 (multiple sellers, they're around $40/set), I on rare occasions get flashed, they've been on the heep for about 2 years, they have very good over-all performance, they don't have the same hard-cutoff that yours do, and they probably trend a bit higher on low-beam. My fog-lights are actually set up to give me a wider cast so I can really see what's around those bends on I-5 in southern oregon. Sometimes the combo between them pisses off the truckers on the other-side. These do look like they have better beam quality than the other ones.
Just finished installing mine when I saw this video. So far I like them. I can't imagine the crystal clear plastic will stay that way for long.
For less than $100, I'm satisfied.
I bought set of cheapo 5x7's off ebay for my 1990 Toyota Pickup. For $100 + $20 for the conversion wire harness from Amazon, I couldn't be happier. So much better than the old halogens.
If these go bad within 6 months can you post a follow up Video.
i wonder how the lights are doing now?
@@manzano5620 probably dead or thrown out shortly after because of a bad beam pattern
So I just started watching in kitchen..... Wife Is washing dishes ...... She says does he have a hard time speaking..... I replied no he's reading Chinese instructions......... She replies. WTF ......
Lol! I felt like I had a hard time speaking while trying to read that crap.
I was cracking up when he was reading the instructions.
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Great review. I really enjoyed the driving comparison on the top and bottom it made a great way to really see the difference
My wife’s 2011 Lexus GX 460 has stock HID projectors. It has the same cutoff line. It makes it a little spooky driving on dark country roads with just the low beams. The projectors make for a pretty sharp box of light. It took some getting used to but now I love them. We always run the fog lights to fill in the gap from the front bumper out to the headlight beam. I would suggest adding some flood beams pointing down to illuminate the dark space directly in front of the vehicle.
Look's like a pretty big upgrade, that being said there's lots of room for improvement in the optics.
I use some phillips led's in my XJ, they are the same as the trucklites. I can't really compare brightness to what you have, but the pattern is damn near perfect. Clean cutoff with a uptick on the right side for signs and viewing roadside, no dark or hotspots (other then what's there from the grill's in front of them) Even with heavy expanded metal in front there are more then bright enough to not need a lightbar.
They were not cheap, but are also in a completely different league then these.
A few technical notes, the more light you have up close, the more your eye's adjust to that level of illumination and your distance vision suffers. A extreme example is what happens when you turn the dome light on, or have a lightbar on the roof lighting up your hood. On the upside, if you have sensitive eyes having a lot of light up close can help diminish eye fatigue\pain from poorly aimed or hid's in halogen housings in the oncoming lane.
If my car had 5x7's i'd install trucklites in a heartbeat, sadly most vehicles have specific housings now, so proper retrofits of lighting upgrades is near impossible (unless your car has a factory option for such)
The eyes adjusting as you described is exactly what we experienced and made these sketchy to drive with on the low beam setting. We could not see a darn thing beyond the harsh cut off line.
I bought these a few months back. I've been fairly happy with them so far. I hate the weird shadow projection between the vehicle and the headlight "spot" but the sides are great. Lots of deer where I live as well. Driving with them in the snow DO NOT turn the brights on. I also aligned mine using measuring tape/ garage door and tape. I'll be lifting my Cherokee this week and will have to realign them again to avoid blinding drivers. I also drive during nighttime hours each day during the winter so I'm also always looking for something better but not 5-600 dollars. (Qtec, trucklites)
Stay tuned!
I put these on my Jeep about 6 months ago, been pleased with them.
Run your halogens in the winter they put off heat and the yellower light cuts the snow better and wont snow and ice over ....ask me how I know. All my leds are rendered useless in snow storms in my 34 mile oneway commute. Unless you run heated leds regular non heated lamps/bulbs will be unsafe. Just my real world experience 2 cents lol. Have a great thanksgiving and keep the great content coming.
Definitely agree with you on the snow driving with LED lights. I had the same issue on my Duramax, as the headlights would ice up with the LEDs.
That's why I use 100 watt bulbs in my Hellas - better defrosting in the winter time ;). It was 10 degrees today and a quick run to the grocery store had my driving beams nice and defrosted :-)
@@ewingfox6459 yeah thought about running hundred watt bulbs myself. Have a nice Thanksgiving.
RainX...BAM!
Great comparison video! I recently purchased a brand new Subaru Forester with the base model halogen headlamps and was very underwhelmed by their performance. I ended up installing a pair of hella 700ff with 100 watt bulbs. For those interested I chose the European driving lamp pattern. I went this way because I really have a tough time with artifacting and most of these aftermarket lamp options have too strange of a beam pattern for me. Keeping everything halogen and using quality glass means that when I flip the switch
I get more light but it's the same quality as the OEM which means it doesn't seem distracting.
Sealed beam bulbs definitely suck (I'm a Audi 4000 guy!) And the solution has always been adding auxiliary driving lamps. Based on your review and the side-by-side comparisons I think I made the right choice with the hella 700ff and I think the combination with the hundred watt bulbs maybe set me back 80 bucks total.
Obviously adding auxiliary lamps won't do you any favors when your on low beams, and some areas have pretty strict rules about running auxiliary driving lamps on the roads -but for me, in Vermont it works pretty well!
one thing to consider if you choose to install a pair of aftermarket lamps is the quality of the harness and I'm glad that you took the time to point out the connectors. One thing that I do with pretty much every aftermarket lamp I install is that I tend to remove the housing and replace the wiring from the bulb all the way back to whatever relay I'm using to trigger the lamps. Many people would be surprised to find out that their driving lamps may draw close to 20 amps! I typically use 14 gauge wire if I'm installing 100 watt bulbs and doing independent runs back to the relay or if I'm wiring a multi lamp installation I'll use a 10 gauge primary wire to the installation location and then run 14 gauge from there.
Because getting water in your electronics sucks, I always keep a couple packages of spark plug grease in my glove box so I can give it a healthy dollop if I pull connections apart on the trail or during a roadside repair.
Overall I really appreciate your video and I think your channel is excellent! I will be installing a brace of lamps on my Jeep CJ7 in the spring and I think the side by side comparison has informed my choice about not going with one of these multi emitter lamp units.
Interesting, I reviewed the same headlights in my channel couple of months ago. I’m very happy with them so far no problems. The people that bought them after my video review seem to like them as well 👍🏻
They have great reviews. I might try some other ones for the heck of it!
BleepinJeep you should try DRL headlights from Amazon
@@bleepinjeep My only major concern with my LED plans has been how they hold up in the winter/extreme cold. even crowd favorites like the sleek Truck-lites haven't been updated like JW speaker has and it seems like they refuse to include some sort of heating mechanism to keep the truck-lite's from failing in cold weather. These seem to have a decent spread on them, unlike most cheaper LED setups, plus name-brands tend to be way overpriced.
@@MrRickChase Not sure about failing because of cold but I've had the lens freeze over where you can't see crap. The leds were still working but it turned into driving by a bic lighter.
@@user-neo71665 good to know it at least doesnt short/fail, but with LEDs not getting warm enough to melt the frost, i'm still feeling partial to investing on a pair, until companies realize "oh, maybe we should heat these bad boys"
Run a bead of silicone around them. Most Chinese headlights aren’t sealed all the way.
Can confirm. Put Chinese LEDs on my JK and sealed the edge of the housing, back of the housing where the wires go in, and backside of the harness. They've stayed bone dry on a rainy tropical island and 2 typhoons.
Good call. I'll definitely do that on mine when they arrive.
Its a lil more expensive but i like SUGRU (silicone putty), lot easier to work with than regular silicone
I just installed my LEDs headlights today 85w Creed with side Halos extremely impressed with workmanship and performance for a little bit over $100 .
Post a link!!
I went from h4 conversion to these same light after a deer vs. Jeep incident and i absolutely love them. Sure, there are better pricier options, but for the money, im more than impressed... now lets see how long they last.. its been about a month so far and still working. Great review
Consensus?
@@VT5874 installed in another xj cuz the original got wrecked and they still work like the day I got them. I'd definitely recommend them for anyone on a tight budget.
Regarding the dim spots and driving in snow/rain: I just put a similar set of LEDs in my XJ, but I've also been running with Rigid Industries fog lights and they are PHENOMENAL. They fill in all of the rest of your area of vision and have an extremely wide angle allowing you to see the ditch with ease. It seems like these headlights and the Rigid Industries fog lights would be a winning combo for you!
Thanks for the initial review, can't wait to see how they hold up!
These are a ripoff Chinese version of the JW Speaker Cherokee headlights. As other comments have mentioned, you'll probably want to make sure these are sealed properly if you plan on using them long term. I bought similar cheap JW ripoff lights for my JK, and they lasted about 6 months before they started having issues. Switched them out for the real deal this weekend and the difference is night and day (plus, I love supporting an American company), hope these work out for you.
You love to support the American company by buying Chinese knock off first lol.
Just busting balls have a nice Thanksgiving.
Exactly
@@truckerrickakamanowar ....loved the virtue signalling
I installed a pair from same company. Slightly different lenses, but very bright and absolutely plug and play!
Love them so far.
It appears people don't like premieres and I have to agree with them. Your viewers aren't stupid. They can find your videos
I bought the truck-lite knock offs about a year ago. This was after going with h4 conversion housings and h4 leds. I am very happy with the truck-lite wanna bes. They have not clouded up or got any water in the light itself.
I had a cheap pair of LEDs for my JK and your description of the branding and vertical light is exactly what I was getting from mine. Threw them away. Ended up with Tuff Plus A0101which were a couple bills. Yes, they are 7" rounds but they are awesome! So there are good budget lights on the market.
I upgraded my 2010 JK to an unbranded set of 7" round LED's the difference being they are not the projector style like yours. They have crazy bright output and on high beam you can see the tops of trees. Similarly they do have a more distinct cut off line and I do get flashed from time to time even though I have them adjusted as low as I can go. The factory headlights were notoriously abysmal but now I can see the road so I am very happy with the new LED's. They do exhibit a slight flicker occasionally but not enough to annoy me more than the poor output of the originals.
I love the flashing check engine light
I literally bought these a couple of weeks ago and love them. My only complaint is the lens is pretty thin. Other than that they work amazing over any halogens
Have these same ones. I wasn’t used to the cut off but these lights have been doing me great. Super bright and so problems with fogging of the lights so far
no problems with fogging*?
Good feedback. Thanks!
Big fan of BleepinJeep
Hate this Premier stuff.
Thanks for the information and the split view of both operating at the same time/place. They are brighter....seems to be a fair replacement.
I have the same lights, been using them for several months now, when I first installed them I noticed the dark spots alot as well, I got used to them they definitely work well for the price
Have you noticed that those dark spots causing any issues with driving? Such as hiding obstacles or animals by chance?
Have found that there are a lot of quick to market companies trying to capitalize on well engineered products and unfortunately fall short of the engineering aspect. I like what the guys at Rugged Retrofits did utilizing existing projector housings and incorporating them into the 5x7 package. It's an HID set up that was plug and play with everything you'll need and a choice of bulb color/temperature. I opted for the 6K and with the proper cut off lines it's not annoying to oncoming traffic or those in front of you and provides all the light you'll need on the highway. I've have run just the headlights without my light bar on the trail with plenty of light.
Sounds Good! Rugged Retrofits has come up more than any other company today.
There's a big difference in the level of lighting after the installation of the LED lighting.
I just installed these same lights. They look great. However, they do not get warm enough to melt snow. If you live in an area that gets a lot of snow, you will be hopping out to clear the snow off of them.... frequently!
I have no vehicle these headlights would fit, but I really enjoyed your review. You covered all areas including deer and owls.
Good Video! I replaced my JK lights with LED's a year back, major improvement!
For about $120 you can get yourself a headlight harness and some Hellas that will treat you right. Nothing special but those LEDs won't work for us in the great northeast in the snow. I'm sure folks will appreciate you testing these as we all consider it at some point but realistically we just want to see you bust some glass housings in your driveway again =]
ps I'm sure the cherokee community would appreciate a true how-to for aiming headlights, didn't quite get into the actual measurements in your other vid. Sure there are hundreds of BJ influenced lifts out there blinding half the country lol
I have had trucklite led headlights for about 6 years in Maine. One has condensation in it, which is annoying considering the price, but they work otherwise.
Angle them up and out just a very little. I think that should help you alot.
Looks a lot brighter!
Great video man! thanks for taking the time. Mine are arriving today for my 2001 XJ. Mine isn't lifted and on your set up so I'm thinking the lighting pattern will work better for me.
As suspected the pattern is very different and perfect on a stock ride height. Thanks again.
Prug an pray! Had purchased one for my Harley that came in a similar box, same color from China. Also bought A set of fog lights for my truck. Both were setting off sensors and fogging up inside like many people have complained about. Love there rook on RUclips for information lmao!!! I also have one fog light filled halfway with water 💦
I've got the Trucklite knock offs (the one with the divider across the middle) and love them. The 90 dollar buy in was a huge bonus.
At this point all of my lighting has gone LED except for my gauge lights.
I have a similar light on my TJ. I love them. I had the KC upgrade before and these are definitely brighter. I did have to adjust mine down a bit but it works. I only paid 80 for mine. The only thing I don't understand is the high beam being on the bottom. When I put the high beams on I see a lot better right in front of the jeep especially in raining situations. I've heard winter will be a pain though since these lights don't emit a lot of heat. Just waiting for the snow that was promised in ogden so I can test that. I too kept my previous lights just in case
I don't have LED, but I did the harness upgrade with H4 upgraded housings with Xenon lights and they work very well for me. I did have to re aim my headlights due to blinding everyone. I was able to see everything inside a car in front of me at night. The original headlights I didn't bother to re aim after my lift because they were so dull it didn't really matter, my setup now changed that real quick. Wanted to try LED but maybe I will keep these H4 housings and replace the bulbs with some led H4 style bulbs and see how that works
Keep that set up...
theres a lot of similar ones for 30-40 on ebay/amazon and they almost all work great. best cheap upgrade, no reason to keep your stock ones besides snow not melting with led ones
I bought led lights (bulbs only 35$ eBay)for my Hyundai 2002 that I use for work asoon as I bought it 4yrs ago. Definitely work it. Haven't gone bad at all . Is been 4yrs already if they go bad now it was definitely worth the 35$ I paid . It was easy to put in. Just remove the old bulb n place new one n plug them and your all set. I recommend getting them they are really great I use 6000k-6500k white
Liked and subscribed, Ordered mine (2000 XJ) I really found your video very Helpful Thank-you for your time and effort
I got these same lights and was initially disappointed. They are very bright and appeared exactly like in this video. But he needs to adjust the beam higher like i did and now i couldn't be happier. Because of its sharp cutoff, at 25 ft. away i was able to adjust the beam only slightly below the center line and could now clearly see several hundred feet down the road. And as long as you have them aimed slightly to the right you won't get flashed. I haven't yet. I tried silverstars but they only lasted about a year. I hope these last the claimed 50,000 hours.
I'm learning a lot from you, buddy.
I love Chinese instructions. So very helpful.
When i bought me XJ the headlights were cheap Amazon LED's. I live in CO in the mountains so they would ice up after 5 minutes of driving and visibility got scary. I upgraded to jeated LEDs - JW Speaker 8910 Evo 2. One pf the best upgrades I've done. Jas a modern V shaped beam pattern and the heated element works. Upgrade the wiring harness as well, I have the Jeepcables.
Have these in my stock xj and had to aim them down a bit liked them so much I bought a round set and put them I my 77 power wagon but I had to open up the back of the light buckets for the heat sinks
Just bought mine and installing them in the morning
Excellent Cherokee headlight helps to uncover the surrounding space on the car
I didn’t bother reading the instructions when I installed my same LED headlights a month ago. They work great, bought them off Amazon for $80.
With the shadows with the light I run driving lights with them and works great and helps with the going down hill light cut off
HA! Great video. Thanks!
My favorite line was, "I've got new headlights and now I can't see anything..."
Thanks again. Very informative and it will help with my new headlight purchase. :-)
Since they have such a strong cutoff, I would adjust them up for more projection and not worry about blinding others, unless you get flashed of course. Based on what I've seen, I'll stick with Halogens. If you want more side light, add fog/auxiliary lights on the bumper, which have a narrow vertical, wide horizontal beam pattern.
This is exactly what I opted to do - Hella 700FF Euro beam pattern with 100 watt bulbs. It's crazy that you can have more usable light while looking less bright at the same time. But I also don't mind globbing extra lamps all over my cars and Jeep, and it is legal in my state to do so.
I am running hella glass housings with h4 Hikari led blubs in my cherokee and they rock.
Fantastic review, bring your wife along next time too, she was a great addition to your analysis.
I ended up buying these after this video like 2+ years ago, they worked excellent til I traded the XJ away. Now that I have a YJ again, going either buy another set or see if anyone has come out with anything better.
To compare patterns, you should shine them on the side of a building. The pattern is hard to see when the terrain is so varied.
My dad has Halogens H4 lights and he said they are the best in the market and has lead glass and I can say it’s not LED so it’s not dim but hell that light can project hella far and has a good side lighting and without blinding other drivers and he said the only problem is that he doesn’t need any other lights to replace it , like getting a light bar so I think that can beat those LEDs but idk
Wow. Trying to read comments about the LED light experience and I'm bombarded by a bunch of whining over premier's. Felt like I somehow ended up in the comments section of a left wing my panties are in a wad video
Hmmm..... username checks out.
Was honestly waiting for him to pick up the instructions and say "welp, don't need these"
I recommend Sylvania SilverStar High Performance bulbs. They are Halogen but are alot brighter the standard bulbs. They give a pattern used to, but are brighter. They are about $50 for a pair of bulbs.
The real test is when it snows. I just run the best OE style lights for city use and Light bars do the rest.
Well 100 bucks not bad and they look awesome am getting these for my xj
A very good comparison with real time action obstacles, LOL. I've wondered about them. Thank you for the video. .
Lol. "Action obstacles"
From what I've learned.. With LED headlights their great in the winter, until you build up a bunch of snow in the lenses and theirs no heat to melt the snow. Just gotta clean them off every so often
You do realize the vast majority of vehicles produced today, even the shittiest of shitty cars from Korea are coming with LED or "HID" Xenon headlights that produce little to no discernible heat on the lens...........Right??
@@elesjuan Doesn't mean us snow people have to like it.
i went the Hella E code housing + headlight harness route and im glad I did. Works basically the same as stock bulbs but you have a better brighter beam pattern and a wide range of bulb options
My CJ7 has the glass hella units for my main hi/low and they are a big improvement... When my original (and badly butchered) stock chassis harness doesn't let me down. Time to get out my de pinning tools... *Sigh*
@@ewingfox6459 look on amazon for a hella headlight harness, its plug and play for pretty much every vehicle
Tanner you are 100% correct! The challenge is if you choose to go with a different bulb. The standard bulb provided by hella is a 55 watt which will be about 8A in the (or something). If you go to a hundred watt bulb or a hundred 50 watt bulb you need to make your own harness because the wires provided by hella would not be appropriate. I do like that hella is an awesome company and always sends their harnesses out with Bosch relays - definitely one of the better ones in my personal experience! I personally end up discarding the harness that comes with the lamp kits and make my own even if I'm sticking with stock bulbs because then I can have the capacity to uprate my bulbs without the hassle of tearing out all my wiring :-)
Maxbilt makes a great LED tail light. They’re actually on my TJ. I LOVE them.
I'd have to check to see if they make em for Xj but I have the Kc halogen housings with led retrofit bulbs in my Tj. Came out to be about 120 dollars total but they look pretty stock (I wanted that not wild about the cyborg look on a Tj) and have a great light pattern and are extremely bright . Haven't been flashed yet. I did adjust them down some but I believe I would have had to do that with the KC housings and halogen bulbs by their selves.
I bought a XJ as my first car and the first time i went for a drive i realized i didn’t have my lights on then i got out and check and they were sure on just not bright what so ever.
great demonstration ! I enjoy my LED headlights by Truck light - they're expensive, but have an aluminum body with a Polycarbonate Lens
I just paid half price for these same lites on the Jungle Web I really like them.
I know exactly where you were driving, been down those roads a hundred times. We should get together some time and bend wrenches.
I have found that replacing the 5x7s with hella headlamps paired with hella 90/130 bulbs work best. Use a relay and wire directly to battery.
I have cheapo LEDs as well with a pretty similar beam pattern but mine are more blue than that. You kinda get used to the weird cut offs. And honestly, the flick between low and high is so much better. The old ones felt like they turned off for a second while switching but the LEDs are immediate.
SuperCheese088 P
I have a couple questions I need help with !
1. What would cause my Jeeps hazards to turn on when I turn on my left blinker
2. Why is my door lock on my passenger door stuck in the lock position but they door stays unlocked
Thanks for your help.
Jeep is a 99 xj
Don't feel bad, my wife told me if I don't replace my 15 plus yr old headlights she will bust them to make me lol. They have sand in the bottom of them from being submerged so many times and one is black for some reason
Those are awesome! Especially for $90
I light up half the neighborhood when I pull out my driveway but surprisingly never been flashed either.
Gotta aim them. When I through led bulbs on my grand prix I had to aim them down
I run an aftermarket oem style housing with an led bulb. I’ve found that’s the best. Has a crystal clear lens. I’ve tried all the eBay and Amazon leds and a few truckite headlights. My combo now has been the best.
mind sharing the details/part numbers with us?
Jeremy H the headlights are from Amazon. Spec-D tuning LHP-7x6jm black housing. The led headlights were just the brightest h4 bulbs i could find.
@@proflores4258 Those lights look interesting. I can't find them for pre-1997 jeep cherokees however.
Just a thought you should put the old ones back in and check the height against a wall and make sure they are the same height.
Great vid but it's been two years and we all want to know if they held up!
Got these in the mail today
What would they look like if flipped around? Just wondering what kind of cutoff you would have.. That should be your next test of the lights.
I have these also, however my toyota pickup (1973) is getting a complete rmake so it will be a while before I can comment. From what I saw in your vid, looks to me it might be wirth tweeking the directional screws for the lamps. I bet you can get it a bit better overall doing that.
I have installed these on my 96 XJ about a month ago and I have noticed that my battery is charging better than before which is kinda strange because they are 110w and the stock lights are 55w.
Also my headlight switch must be on the way out because when I turn them on sometimes I have to wiggle the switch to get it to work.
The cut off line takes some getting used to but overall I am happy with them.
Those have a weird cutoff. I have the $90 ones off amazon that look like the trucklites and they seem to have a much better cutoff
Post a link!
I have the same ones as you Dillion on my Jeep and they are very awesome indeed
You will never go back to the old headlights TIM ..I have auxbeam style headlights in my Cherokee they work great .they only down side is they don't create any heat to melt snow or ice off the lights.
Snow and ice is a real thing where I live so I might be opting for a hotter burning light.
Just got my project running and noticed last night how bad the lights were. Gonna pick up a set of these
Not of fan of these headlights, but excellent review. Thank you for doing a well thought out and comprehensive review vs many other videos
So why aren't you a fan of these headlights? Everyone else seems to be! Do please tell us.
I always thought these looked sick they look way better then the chrome ones everyone's got the ones with 3 rows Leds . P0 had put those on mine and been thinking about getting a set of those In the video they have them for about $50 or less now
I find that the generic ones from ebay for $30 each are the best cheap lights to go with as they project a nice even beam instead of having a bright spot like those do
Have the headlights been adjusted to compensate for the lift? I wonder if the "downhill issue" you guys mentioned would be resolved with adjustment/alignment.
I have adjusted them since filming. No significant change. Stay tuned for a follow up video!