Let me tell you... the sheer *AWE* I felt when the Protomolecule broke the laws of physics and shunted Eros out of the Nauvoo's way... what a way to convey the power level of the *thing* humanity is now facing.
the TV show does a poor job if really indicating the size of 433 Eros. I did some loose fitting on a map and if oytu look at the Salt Lake valley in Utah, that is the width and length of Eros almost exactly.. Blow that up into a height the same as the width to get a 3D idea of the size.. If there are over a million people in that valley on a single plane, image what fits into the volume of Eros.. The Show said 100,00 people, but in the books and in reality it would hold a million people easily (Ceres holds like 6 million), so the show really downplayed how many died. So look at an asteroid of those dimensions and just try to calculate the mass of it, and then try to project waht level of applied pressure it would take shift it from it's eons- old orbit.
@@wagnarokkr Oh yeah, I'm going through the books now (read the first 3), and that part really added to it, would have been cool to see in the show, perhaps as that synthetic noise of the Eros signal grew louder and turned into that screaming sound as the Nauvoo flew past, we could have had Julie's voice rise above the others and shout that!
@@ZakhadWOWSince I’m a New Englander, my comparison for the size of Eros is Martha’s Vineyard, an island just south of Cape Cod in Massachusetts. A 3D version of that island would be about the size of Eros. It’s a vacation spot so there are around 20,000 full time residents, which can reach 200,000 in the summer. So in that vain, the population of 100,000 isn’t all that far off. There may be room for more but remember that a place like Salt Lake Valley is a fertile location on Earth with a lot of natural resources. Eros is a space station, so obviously it has no natural resources of its own. Also it’s become sort of a backwater type of place, so it would certainly have a much smaller population than Ceres, which is much more of a central hub for the belt.
The showrunner, Naren Shankar, got a Masters degree in applied physics and a PhD in electrical engineering, then almost immediately signed on as an intern on Star Trek The Next Generation, eventually penning several of the show's best episodes as well as having his hand in the script of nearly every episode of the last two seasons as science consultant and story editor. He was writer and executive producer for a time on Farscape (another show you should watch if you haven't), then producer and head writer on CSI for 8 years.
This stuff was awesome in the books, and I gotta say, the show knocked it out the park. Eros moving itself was the first time I truly realized how big this story could get. Still get chills from that scene. And I gotta say…Thomas Jane 👏👏👏 He’s the perfect Miller!
"without a doubt one of the best episodes so far." Yeah. The expanse does that where each episode is somehow better that the one before it for multiple seasons. Also i just love Stevens delivery of Holden yelling after destroying that ship. You just really feel how much he didnt want to do that but didnt feel like he had another choice.
Chris this is where I want to say thank you so very much for reacting to our beloved show! It means more than you know! As you stated about having an emotional response to a moment in this show, there are so many more to come! Ive seen this show countless times. Rewatches and watching reactors and this show still stirs an emotional response everytime! When Miller was talking to Diogo he said he was finding his way " home." Dawes told Miller that when he lost everything he would clearly see what's most important and then he would find his way " home!" The writing is so subtle but so damn good! Looking forward to episode five....❤😢
Man, I loved this series!!!!! I will join you on the rest of this journey because it doesn't slow down for a while now. Really well paced adaptation and the casting was great.
In the book, Miller and the Rocinante crew immediately tell the audience the scientific significance of what just happened. An asteroid can’t just move out of orbit. This is the first time in the series that the alien technology, the protomolecule, changes or at least bends the laws of physics in a way indistinguishable from magic. I love the wordless scream as the ship sails past Eros. It’s wonderful and creepy. In the book though, Eros is continuously broadcasting sound including actual words and it suddenly broadcasts “Don’t touch me!” as the ship nears.
We know the doctor was on a humanitarian mission for sure because he was on some of Ceres' broadcast earlier in the season. It's easy to miss but on rewatch I was able to catch it. Ironically, Holden had to do what could have been done to him when he sent the message about the Cant. He pretty much killed himself there because they both felt they were doing the right thing.
The Expanse's writers have a habit of presenting characters saying something very obvious. Other shows, with perhaps Firefly being a good example, prefer to give viewers a clever and unexpected quip. There is something to be said for both strategies. Most of us come up with the clever one-liner a day or so after the time for delivery of it has passed us by, so my vote goes for the obvious statement. You didn't include it in your edit, but I think somebody in this episode (Naomi?) said precisely what I thought in my mind when Miller announced his repurposing of the Nauvoo. "The Mormons are going to be pissed!"
Also interesting observations. Never predicted the next line as much as in the expanse. It is a bit predictable, but I find that to its credit. Logical things happen, and characters act in accordance to what they have been built up to be. Also, I love both the Expanse and Firefly.
And this is more or less exactely the point when things turn from a more realistic Star Treck into a SciFi variation of an HPL story... Scary space stuff, yeah, was there before but things get existential... Best regards Raoul G. Kunz
Let me tell you... the sheer *AWE* I felt when the Protomolecule broke the laws of physics and shunted Eros out of the Nauvoo's way... what a way to convey the power level of the *thing* humanity is now facing.
the TV show does a poor job if really indicating the size of 433 Eros. I did some loose fitting on a map and if oytu look at the Salt Lake valley in Utah, that is the width and length of Eros almost exactly.. Blow that up into a height the same as the width to get a 3D idea of the size.. If there are over a million people in that valley on a single plane, image what fits into the volume of Eros.. The Show said 100,00 people, but in the books and in reality it would hold a million people easily (Ceres holds like 6 million), so the show really downplayed how many died.
So look at an asteroid of those dimensions and just try to calculate the mass of it, and then try to project waht level of applied pressure it would take shift it from it's eons- old orbit.
it's particularly chilling in the book because it yells "don't you fucking touch me" right before it moves
@@wagnarokkr Oh yeah, I'm going through the books now (read the first 3), and that part really added to it, would have been cool to see in the show, perhaps as that synthetic noise of the Eros signal grew louder and turned into that screaming sound as the Nauvoo flew past, we could have had Julie's voice rise above the others and shout that!
@@ZakhadWOWSince I’m a New Englander, my comparison for the size of Eros is Martha’s Vineyard, an island just south of Cape Cod in Massachusetts. A 3D version of that island would be about the size of Eros. It’s a vacation spot so there are around 20,000 full time residents, which can reach 200,000 in the summer. So in that vain, the population of 100,000 isn’t all that far off. There may be room for more but remember that a place like Salt Lake Valley is a fertile location on Earth with a lot of natural resources. Eros is a space station, so obviously it has no natural resources of its own. Also it’s become sort of a backwater type of place, so it would certainly have a much smaller population than Ceres, which is much more of a central hub for the belt.
What Johnson said at the beginning, the line that moved you? Is exactly the situation Holden finds himself in at the end.
The showrunner, Naren Shankar, got a Masters degree in applied physics and a PhD in electrical engineering, then almost immediately signed on as an intern on Star Trek The Next Generation, eventually penning several of the show's best episodes as well as having his hand in the script of nearly every episode of the last two seasons as science consultant and story editor. He was writer and executive producer for a time on Farscape (another show you should watch if you haven't), then producer and head writer on CSI for 8 years.
FARSCAPE YESss!
I have actually decided to watch Farscape! It’ll be on won’t be on the channel for about a year, but it’s on my calendar 😊
Shankar is sci fi royalty
Earlier in the season you see that doctor on the news talking about sending aid to eros
This stuff was awesome in the books, and I gotta say, the show knocked it out the park. Eros moving itself was the first time I truly realized how big this story could get. Still get chills from that scene. And I gotta say…Thomas Jane 👏👏👏 He’s the perfect Miller!
Thomas Jane's kinda the perfect everyone. Never seen a roll he didn't kill.
@@nathanmead9585 that’s a good point!
“Don’t you f***ing touch me” - Eros, probably.
"Can't touch me, tu du du du tu du tu duuu, can't touch me...."
@@nokta7373 Blue glowing parachute pants...
"without a doubt one of the best episodes so far." Yeah. The expanse does that where each episode is somehow better that the one before it for multiple seasons.
Also i just love Stevens delivery of Holden yelling after destroying that ship. You just really feel how much he didnt want to do that but didnt feel like he had another choice.
Chris this is where I want to say thank you so very much for reacting to our beloved show! It means more than you know!
As you stated about having an emotional response to a moment in this show, there are so many more to come! Ive seen this show countless times. Rewatches and watching reactors and this show still stirs an emotional response everytime!
When Miller was talking to Diogo he said he was finding his way " home." Dawes told Miller that when he lost everything he would clearly see what's most important and then he would find his way " home!"
The writing is so subtle but so damn good!
Looking forward to episode five....❤😢
Doctor Victor Mesplede on the Marasmus was played by canadian actor Alex Woods
He worked pretty well to deliver a thick french accent
he was briefly in an earlier episode too, talking about the Eros crisis on a TV screen in the background
This is a great episode. That cliffhanger!
That is such a cool, and apt observation. That doctor is a hero in a different story. Which makes it harrowing for both us and Holden.
Man, I loved this series!!!!! I will join you on the rest of this journey because it doesn't slow down for a while now. Really well paced adaptation and the casting was great.
I still can't wait to see your reaction to the end of Miller's story arc.
AMAZING episode. One of my favourites (along with the next one). Such an epic story. So glad you're enjoying it and having a serious reaction to it.
14:04 We all know it's necessary, but this is where our Paladin becomes an Oathbreaker...
15:13 Exactly. For the first time since the beginning of the series he doesn't really have a future perspective.
Deffenetly a spine-chilling moment.
In the book, Miller and the Rocinante crew immediately tell the audience the scientific significance of what just happened. An asteroid can’t just move out of orbit. This is the first time in the series that the alien technology, the protomolecule, changes or at least bends the laws of physics in a way indistinguishable from magic.
I love the wordless scream as the ship sails past Eros. It’s wonderful and creepy. In the book though, Eros is continuously broadcasting sound including actual words and it suddenly broadcasts “Don’t touch me!” as the ship nears.
We know the doctor was on a humanitarian mission for sure because he was on some of Ceres' broadcast earlier in the season. It's easy to miss but on rewatch I was able to catch it. Ironically, Holden had to do what could have been done to him when he sent the message about the Cant. He pretty much killed himself there because they both felt they were doing the right thing.
The Expanse's writers have a habit of presenting characters saying something very obvious. Other shows, with perhaps Firefly being a good example, prefer to give viewers a clever and unexpected quip. There is something to be said for both strategies. Most of us come up with the clever one-liner a day or so after the time for delivery of it has passed us by, so my vote goes for the obvious statement. You didn't include it in your edit, but I think somebody in this episode (Naomi?) said precisely what I thought in my mind when Miller announced his repurposing of the Nauvoo. "The Mormons are going to be pissed!"
Ha! "Eros did".
Also interesting observations. Never predicted the next line as much as in the expanse. It is a bit predictable, but I find that to its credit. Logical things happen, and characters act in accordance to what they have been built up to be. Also, I love both the Expanse and Firefly.
We're Pirates, Aaargh....😅
Ooooh, Baranta!
I’ll be surprised if you’re not balling your eyes out with the next episode… 😳
*Bawling. Very different verb.. You indicated something sportslike 😆😂
@@ZakhadWOW
Well shit lol, you got me there! 🤦♂️
I’m cackling. 🤣
Yeah these 2 episodes are the expanse at ots best, the pay off for nearly 1 and a half seasons work😊
15:12 I don't think Miller ever really intended to come back from this
Yeah lets just end it there, lol
And this is more or less exactely the point when things turn from a more realistic Star Treck into a SciFi variation of an HPL story...
Scary space stuff, yeah, was there before but things get existential...
Best regards
Raoul G. Kunz
Just FYI the phrase is "champing at the bit", not "chomping".