Moving the pump arm pivot outside of the arm itself would add quite a bit to its strength. Just a simple bracket screwed to the top or bottom would do, or a bearing block. You could also use a thicker timber to reduce the flex.
I just watched Part 1. I previously watched about halfway through this one. WHY did I watch part of this one WITHOUT watching the first one? Who knows...🤭
For your spare parts kit, i recommend putting a handful of bolts with the nuts on them (all the same size) on a piece of duct tape, and then put another piece of duct tape over the top to make a sandwich (with the bolts and nuts trapped inside). then with a thick sharpie, you write the type of bolt/nut on the duct tape. this leaves you with a nice big packet of bolts with matching nuts that you will immediately know the size of. i learned this trick from an engineer i used to work with. he would also sometimes write the project the spare bolts went to as well as the size. it saved us many times, and became standard operating procedure for the lab!
FWIW: Based on the FEW homemade rail car videos I have watched, it SEEMS like people who use wheels _designed specifically for rails_ -- even though they tend to cost more -- seem to have better luck than when using homemade wheels.
OMG i've been dreaming of these things almost everytime i see an abandoned railroad xD also they would be fun to be craftable in games like DayZ, but i digress!
3:40 One thing that can help with alignment over long distances with belts and chains is to use a straightedge. Align the gears using the straightedge on the face of each sprocket. That way you’re guaranteed that both sprockets are squared with each other when you install the chain. This will help reduce chain wear over time.
A very interesting project, which is a lot of fun, it's easier with two people. The prototype is already working very well. Just epic how, at the end of the video, they ride towards the sunset. I'm looking forward to more videos.
*_When it comes to workbenches I had a good friend tell me to never make your workbench any bigger than 1 Ft. X 1 Ft. because that it all of the available workspace that you are gong to have on one anyways._*
6:45 I know you're joking but I believe any bus used for transporting people is required to stop at all RR crossings, even abandoned ones. I love all the different types of projects featured on this channel!
I really enjoyed the Kirkland® brand Jimi Hendrix-style montage music! Who could forget the classic knock-off track Juju Juvenile (Vague Reverb)?! "I found myself loitering adjacent to a mesa..." 🤪
Seriously, though, very cool video. I've aspired to building a rail-bike or hand-cart for years, and this makes me feel like I might actually be able to do it, someday. Keep up the great work!
Awesome video! Honestly think you should drill cotter pin holes and put castle nuts or lynch pins on those so they can be removed easily for maintenance. But you also don’t have to worry about it falling apart also. The key way was a great idea for the pillow blocks and spindles! Hate you had to grind it down yourself I know that was a pain!
@saveitforparts - just saw this video about this monorail prototype from 1910 ruclips.net/video/kUYzuAJeg3M/видео.html and thought how cool would be if you'd built a human-sized model of that !
I also saw the arm flexing. Fix that first. After that, add big Googly Thomas the Tank Engine eyes to the front with some way to make them go back and forth with a foot pedal. Nobody has ever done this with a home brewed rail car. This responsibility is given to you and to no other. BTW, come over to Chippewa Falls sometime in Jan/Feb. The robotics team is getting ready to build some seriously cool stuff ahead of the March/April competition season. T. Wolter
You should probably find a whistle for it. Attaching a steam whistle would be stupid and awesome, you could find a way to have the pump drive mechanism run an air compressor and use compressed air for a whistle, or just find a surplus electric horn
Awesome improvements! Funny back in October would you have ever thought we'd be in the 40s this late into December? I still have kale growing in the garden! Really digging the montage music in this video. Now, on with the interrogation... Is it tiring to operate for a while? Who's the doggo? Should I stop over at the overgrown track section with my reciprocal saw? 😅
It's not too tiring, but I haven't gone more than about a mile with it! Dog was with someone taking a walk on the tracks. Since they're cut off and disused they've become a walking path for the neighborhoods. Some track trimming might be good, I'll bring a saw next time :-)
A few friendly suggestions: glue two denim velcro straps to each side of the car. That way you can tie down two full size flashlights in case it gets too dark at night. Most Mag Lites have switched over to LEDs so they're much more powerful but use less battery power than normal. Also, maybe add a bag with a small backpack tent so you can wait out really bad storms if you can't make it home in time.
Sweet pump car! When you get tired of the hand pump, you could try a pedal pump. Just use some bicycles, side by side. It may be one direction rotation at that point, but you could add a gearbox, like you'd need for the gas motor in the future anyways. Keep up the awesome vids!
That's brilliant. I don't know about a horn, but some "ding dings" for the crossing would be good. You need to get some agent orange down on that first line!
i still think putting the other side of the bike crank back on would be a good idea. it will spread out the load on the handle and make power move back easier by halving the load on the final drive.
This is only fun if while you're pumping, you sing Cartman's song... "Massa's got me working, slaves never finished... someday Massa set me... freeeeee...." Carry you some Loppers from Harbor Freight or Lowes to cut down those little trees and do rail maintenance. Yeah you don't want to use in use rails at all, those things at least at night travel 90mph, I almost got run over by one once. I was waiting on the rails at night before I could sneak in to a friends house past their mom, and way off in the distance I saw a light. I was like shoot, is that a train or not, I can't tell (I was in an urban area(, I better get off the tracks. Next thing I know within 8 seconds a train was blasting past me with my back up against the bushes. If you ever are on active rails, and do see a train, and it's not moving glacially slow (you can tell), then just jump and abandon the car as quickly as possible. And run and keep running, because I hear on the scanner with railway men talking to police, the railroad prosecutes always for everything and in this case it would be trespassing or something worse. The railroads aren't friendly and aren't your friends. Rail fans to them are liabilities and hazzards that can cause them a serious mess because they drive machines that weigh tonnes and can not be stopped within a mile. I mapped out our old railbeds here for like 30 miles and made a website for it... so yeah... I've done my share of exploring old railway beds and tracks, trestles, tunnels, and coaling towers. 🙂 If I were you, I'd buy some Loppers, modify it up to go with that engine, draft some kids, and have them clean up up the rails and cut down all those little shrugs in the way of the tracks, in exchange for giving them rides up and down the tracks to the end of the line and the next job site to go further and further, and just to be able to give rides in general. Kids love go carts, and most will never get to drive one, so this is the next best thing. Motion is motion. I know, I restored an old go cart for some kids.
Cool project! I had a random idea while watching(not sure how well it'd turn out) - It'd be interesting to try and throw a one-way sprag/freewheeling bearing into the input hub for that chain drive. I bet you could get it pumping faster with all force applied in the downwards direction, compared to the always-connected up/down chain drive allows you to do now. After pumping downwards, you'd be able to pull the handle back up quickly without resistance as the bearing reverses direction relative to the output shaft(imagine one-legged bicycle pedaling with the pedal tied to your foot), and then it grabs again once you apply more torque in the driving direction. If you keep the load/timing consistent you *should* still be able to apply upwards force as well. The pump handles could also remain stationary once you get coasting since the sprag bearing would allow the driveshaft to over-run the input drivetrain. The only two downsides I can think of are: - You'd need to physically flip the cart around to go the other way, or possibly configure the drive chain to feed into a fwd/reverse selector gearbox to choose which way you'd like to go(but that might be getting into overly-complex territory 😆) - If you had two people pumping then it might get a bit weird if the pump handle direction is changed too soon before the pedal linkage has fully rotated through the point where the applied force would continue to move the sprocket in the same direction. In that case you could add something simple like a spring-pin to lock the hub/axle together for tandem use.
I thought about a rack and pinion type drive, but this seems closer to the original vintage pump cars (and I already had bike parts). I might have to rebuild it again, since I think I'm wearing out the little BMX parts!
For a small vehicle like this, the wheels just ride around curves on their own. As @tiepup said the conical profile helps with that. The flanges also help center the wheels if there's a worn section of track or a switch.
have you actually looked at a real hand-cart? i actually did look at one in the past and they seemed to use a chain and somekind of "free-wheel" hub (one way clutch) on the platform.
Dude be careful, you're gonna get hit by an abandoned train
:D
This comment wins!
Would that make it _"reckless abandon"?_ 😉
From what I hear on all the other abandoned railroad track youtube videos -- and it really is a thing -- conical wheels are the way to go
Unless those are conical. Can't really tell since you know, video and whatnot
Not what she was expecting when he led with "Hey baby, I'm gonna run a train. You in?"
Glad to see this run before the snow flies! Now you need a 2nd car for batteries, solar panels, gas pushers, coolers, -monorail cars.- :D
Moving the pump arm pivot outside of the arm itself would add quite a bit to its strength. Just a simple bracket screwed to the top or bottom would do, or a bearing block. You could also use a thicker timber to reduce the flex.
I love this channel! Boats to satellites to diy pump rail cars. Amazing!
its good to see a fellow Minnesota guy and ham radio operator with a RUclips channel! love these videos!
So cool!
Reconfigure your drive sprocket and axle using an old ten speed bike!
You can mount the shifters anywhere!😂
Wild idea: mount a gas-powered bush hog on the front!
😉
"It'll be fine! Mistakes were made!" 😂
“TrackTribe” I see what you did there 👏 🚂 Let’s get this man one of those striped train engineer hats already!!!
I have one of those hats somewhere :-D
i never considered cutting a woodruff key slot that way using a dremel, but now that i've seen you do it, it seems to obvious lol
I don't know the legit way to do it!
I just watched Part 1.
I previously watched about halfway through this one.
WHY did I watch part of this one WITHOUT watching the first one?
Who knows...🤭
Youre halfway there with your mad max beyond thunderdome cosplay! now all you need is a mannequin head on a pole
In the distance the bearded man Hears A train whistle😮😮😮
Be careful you might get run over by a train!!!!!!
For your spare parts kit, i recommend putting a handful of bolts with the nuts on them (all the same size) on a piece of duct tape, and then put another piece of duct tape over the top to make a sandwich (with the bolts and nuts trapped inside). then with a thick sharpie, you write the type of bolt/nut on the duct tape. this leaves you with a nice big packet of bolts with matching nuts that you will immediately know the size of. i learned this trick from an engineer i used to work with. he would also sometimes write the project the spare bolts went to as well as the size. it saved us many times, and became standard operating procedure for the lab!
FWIW: Based on the FEW homemade rail car videos I have watched, it SEEMS like people who use wheels _designed specifically for rails_ -- even though they tend to cost more -- seem to have better luck than when using homemade wheels.
OMG i've been dreaming of these things almost everytime i see an abandoned railroad xD
also they would be fun to be craftable in games like DayZ, but i digress!
amazing to see saveitforparts post a new video.
The front rider should not be facing backwards. They stand inside the pump arm.
Just a thought how about using a big flywheel gearbox to make it go faster keeping the pump to spin up the flywheel gearbox that spins the wheels.
I have ADHD and love this video. However, I was interested in the 70s porn music. Love it 😂
3:40 One thing that can help with alignment over long distances with belts and chains is to use a straightedge. Align the gears using the straightedge on the face of each sprocket. That way you’re guaranteed that both sprockets are squared with each other when you install the chain. This will help reduce chain wear over time.
A very interesting project, which is a lot of fun, it's easier with two people. The prototype is already working very well. Just epic how, at the end of the video, they ride towards the sunset. I'm looking forward to more videos.
Railroad season coming on soon! My favorites videos of yours are the vehicles.
Pedal Power would be good on that but if u use a motor on it i would use a 212cc predator or some sort of 5HP 4 stroke
*_When it comes to workbenches I had a good friend tell me to never make your workbench any bigger than 1 Ft. X 1 Ft. because that it all of the available workspace that you are gong to have on one anyways._*
Hey man, Love your videos👍 Greetings from the netherlands
I hate to be that guy but buses are required to stop at all train crossings whether there's a train or not at least in Michigan that's the law
I suggest old medication bottles for spare nuts, screws, etc.
It's October? You forget to turn your calendar over too, huh?
6:45 I know you're joking but I believe any bus used for transporting people is required to stop at all RR crossings, even abandoned ones. I love all the different types of projects featured on this channel!
gotta put your legs into it, thats gotta be killing your back
Why pump? Make a railroad bicycle out if it :)
How about a set of battery-powered weed wackers on the front
I really enjoyed the Kirkland® brand
Jimi Hendrix-style montage music!
Who could forget the classic knock-off track Juju Juvenile (Vague Reverb)?!
"I found myself loitering adjacent to a
mesa..."
🤪
Seriously, though, very cool video. I've aspired to building a rail-bike or hand-cart for years, and this makes me feel like I might actually be able to do it, someday. Keep up the great work!
Awesome video! Honestly think you should drill cotter pin holes and put castle nuts or lynch pins on those so they can be removed easily for maintenance. But you also don’t have to worry about it falling apart also. The key way was a great idea for the pillow blocks and spindles! Hate you had to grind it down yourself I know that was a pain!
Plot twist: It may not get cold or snow this winter at all!
Oil industry won the war on Christmas 😅
@saveitforparts - just saw this video about this monorail prototype from 1910 ruclips.net/video/kUYzuAJeg3M/видео.html and thought how cool would be if you'd built a human-sized model of that !
I would definitely fall over a lot!
Motorised version of this: ruclips.net/video/hvUWqoOLpR8/видео.htmlsi=WVoe537X0TTCVvLb
I have an electric version that kind of works, I like this one better though!
I also saw the arm flexing. Fix that first. After that, add big Googly Thomas the Tank Engine eyes to the front with some way to make them go back and forth with a foot pedal. Nobody has ever done this with a home brewed rail car. This responsibility is given to you and to no other. BTW, come over to Chippewa Falls sometime in Jan/Feb. The robotics team is getting ready to build some seriously cool stuff ahead of the March/April competition season. T. Wolter
That sounds fun! I've been meaning to get more into robotics in my free (ha!) time :-)
But what about the ghost trains!!!
You need to add weed Wackers in front of the wheels
Battery powered train horn required 😼.
You should probably find a whistle for it. Attaching a steam whistle would be stupid and awesome, you could find a way to have the pump drive mechanism run an air compressor and use compressed air for a whistle, or just find a surplus electric horn
Maybe a compressor and a train air horn.
You should attach a steam engine to it.
I'm psyched for this video
Now you need a train whistle
MUM MUM, come quick. Save it for parts posted.
love the peter sripol merch!
Next time get a battery sponsor and slap a brushless motor on it. Some comfy chairs and a table would be nice too
Awesome improvements!
Funny back in October would you have ever thought we'd be in the 40s this late into December? I still have kale growing in the garden!
Really digging the montage music in this video.
Now, on with the interrogation...
Is it tiring to operate for a while? Who's the doggo? Should I stop over at the overgrown track section with my reciprocal saw? 😅
It's not too tiring, but I haven't gone more than about a mile with it!
Dog was with someone taking a walk on the tracks. Since they're cut off and disused they've become a walking path for the neighborhoods.
Some track trimming might be good, I'll bring a saw next time :-)
You are Awesome!!! Love the video.
A few friendly suggestions: glue two denim velcro straps to each side of the car. That way you can tie down two full size flashlights in case it gets too dark at night. Most Mag Lites have switched over to LEDs so they're much more powerful but use less battery power than normal. Also, maybe add a bag with a small backpack tent so you can wait out really bad storms if you can't make it home in time.
How about making it electric again using a spiral blade wind generator?
Or just put a sail up...
At about 03:05 in this video...
*_"NAH, IT'LL BE FINE!"_*
- _The Critical Drinker_ 😉
Good job, I want one😎😎
Now I'm jealous.
WHO is the girl with you..... I would have bet $1000 your gay.... not being mean...just saying....
I was in the "who gives a damn?" camp, but I'll admit to being curious.
My long-term partner, she doesn't like to be on camera much 😝
best channel on YT
You look like you are bowing to your wife and she is curtsying to you
Going round the outside of one of those Swiss clocks?
Cool project. Loctite is your friend, or castle nuts.
Nyloc?
I love this stuff. Completely not my thing, but I love it all the same.
That's so cool
Aluminium *
RockRidge!
You are an inspiration dude. Keep chooin'!
Sweet pump car! When you get tired of the hand pump, you could try a pedal pump. Just use some bicycles, side by side. It may be one direction rotation at that point, but you could add a gearbox, like you'd need for the gas motor in the future anyways. Keep up the awesome vids!
That's brilliant. I don't know about a horn, but some "ding dings" for the crossing would be good. You need to get some agent orange down on that first line!
Spam...
nice
It's starting to feel like Mr Wizard. I like it.
Beware the bull.
Dude careful man, you’ll get hit by a train if you don’t watch out!!
Been hoping for content that wasn't heavy on acronyms!
Thanks!!
The handle fulcrum needs to be taller so you don’t need a spinal fusion after 2 miles
this would be mega funny with that gas engine on that, basically a 1 man train at that point.
this is really sweet. when i saw it i said “f yeah dude” sorta quietly to nobody in particular.
I heard you and I agree
Love the channel, my friend Johan has been to sandland! Celebrity in my eyes! Great video.
i still think putting the other side of the bike crank back on would be a good idea. it will spread out the load on the handle and make power move back easier by halving the load on the final drive.
Hell yah nice project! Hmm are u the Sattelite SDR Funk Tüpe?! 🧐
Glad you didn't have to run from the police this time !
Are you sure that second line is abandoned ? Rails still have some shine to them
When i was a kid in 1987, the railroad was like magic to me! i love your vids man!
🎉🎉🎉🎉
or that bus driver was being kind to you.
seen a few engine rail get pretty up there in speed on abandoned tracks
Team work there. Awesome
can you build a steam engine and test it there?
Well done! Thanks for the update 🍷
Where did your mustache go
Some great pumping action!
This is only fun if while you're pumping, you sing Cartman's song... "Massa's got me working, slaves never finished... someday Massa set me... freeeeee...."
Carry you some Loppers from Harbor Freight or Lowes to cut down those little trees and do rail maintenance.
Yeah you don't want to use in use rails at all, those things at least at night travel 90mph, I almost got run over by one once. I was waiting on the rails at night before I could sneak in to a friends house past their mom, and way off in the distance I saw a light. I was like shoot, is that a train or not, I can't tell (I was in an urban area(, I better get off the tracks. Next thing I know within 8 seconds a train was blasting past me with my back up against the bushes.
If you ever are on active rails, and do see a train, and it's not moving glacially slow (you can tell), then just jump and abandon the car as quickly as possible. And run and keep running, because I hear on the scanner with railway men talking to police, the railroad prosecutes always for everything and in this case it would be trespassing or something worse. The railroads aren't friendly and aren't your friends. Rail fans to them are liabilities and hazzards that can cause them a serious mess because they drive machines that weigh tonnes and can not be stopped within a mile.
I mapped out our old railbeds here for like 30 miles and made a website for it... so yeah... I've done my share of exploring old railway beds and tracks, trestles, tunnels, and coaling towers. 🙂
If I were you, I'd buy some Loppers, modify it up to go with that engine, draft some kids, and have them clean up up the rails and cut down all those little shrugs in the way of the tracks, in exchange for giving them rides up and down the tracks to the end of the line and the next job site to go further and further, and just to be able to give rides in general. Kids love go carts, and most will never get to drive one, so this is the next best thing. Motion is motion. I know, I restored an old go cart for some kids.
Are you monitoring the new Chinese satellites yet?
I haven't tried their spaceplane or some of the other new stuff, I'm busy with all kinds of projects!
I haven't been able to find a small 50cc deisel engine but It would be cool to make this a deisel electric and it would be the most train like.
Cool project! I had a random idea while watching(not sure how well it'd turn out) - It'd be interesting to try and throw a one-way sprag/freewheeling bearing into the input hub for that chain drive.
I bet you could get it pumping faster with all force applied in the downwards direction, compared to the always-connected up/down chain drive allows you to do now. After pumping downwards, you'd be able to pull the handle back up quickly without resistance as the bearing reverses direction relative to the output shaft(imagine one-legged bicycle pedaling with the pedal tied to your foot), and then it grabs again once you apply more torque in the driving direction. If you keep the load/timing consistent you *should* still be able to apply upwards force as well. The pump handles could also remain stationary once you get coasting since the sprag bearing would allow the driveshaft to over-run the input drivetrain.
The only two downsides I can think of are:
- You'd need to physically flip the cart around to go the other way, or possibly configure the drive chain to feed into a fwd/reverse selector gearbox to choose which way you'd like to go(but that might be getting into overly-complex territory 😆)
- If you had two people pumping then it might get a bit weird if the pump handle direction is changed too soon before the pedal linkage has fully rotated through the point where the applied force would continue to move the sprocket in the same direction. In that case you could add something simple like a spring-pin to lock the hub/axle together for tandem use.
I thought about a rack and pinion type drive, but this seems closer to the original vintage pump cars (and I already had bike parts). I might have to rebuild it again, since I think I'm wearing out the little BMX parts!
How do you find all the time???
I have no idea 🤣I'm also writing a book on small Alaska railroads 😝
Curious if you add gimbals ( or gizmos ) to the wheels to account for track curvature on those bends?
For a small vehicle like this, the wheels just ride around curves on their own. As @tiepup said the conical profile helps with that. The flanges also help center the wheels if there's a worn section of track or a switch.
have you actually looked at a real hand-cart?
i actually did look at one in the past and they seemed to use a chain and somekind of "free-wheel" hub (one way clutch) on the platform.
I haven't looked at one in person, just went through some old patents and videos of original designs.