I have a bunch of them, I've tried setting them up between the outside spots (shed, treehouse, monorail, etc), but the squirrels always eat the wires or trees fall on them and nobody uses them.
@@saveitforparts That's sad, they sound really fun. In sandland the humidtitty would murk the old gadgets quickly as well. I want to see a video on them but I have no idea how you would make it interesting. The thing being 'neat' isn't really enough to fill an episode.
After you get the train track all leveled and the sand smoothed and packed you need to spray the whole of it down with watered down white glue and a little rubbing alcohol. it will lock everything in place and make it a lot easier to clean. Normally you would have to avoid getting it on the rails but since you are not powering the train through the rails it shouldn't be an issue. Also, as someone else suggested you should make a cover for the dump cart and use it as the first container in the vacuum system. Suck the sand right into the cart.
This is simply amazing. The tunnels have come a long way since the ill-fated Sandfest over a decade ago. I would love to walk around those, much easier on the back than the crawling. Gotten old since then. LOVE IT!!!!!
Wooden sleepers, also known as railroad ties or crossties, are traditionally used to support and secure the rails on the track bed. You need some cute little scale-model wooden steepers to secure into the sand . Also consider misting it with a spray bottle and packing it down
I've been imagining how cool the Sand Bar train would be and its turning out even funner than anticipated with dinosaurs and skeleton caves in the tunnels! Can't wait to see whats next. I hope you have fun with it.
Man that sandstone look so soft! Barely harder than the industrially compressed sand professional sandcastle folks use at competitions. I've always been a little jealous of people with geology like this where they can just build their own caves. Where I live its all some of the hardest gneiss in the world that shrugs off normal blasting techniques.
My neighbor Rob would love this, we live in the driftless Region South West Wi, and I have a Micro sandland started. Same sandstone as sandland, Love the videos!
This is just the adult version of digging a hole in the back yard and making tunnels in the dirt with nothing but a couple spoons and your friends. Although instead of clay-rich soil it's sandstone. Seriously though, this is a really cool series
That's just a super-cute train layout. Nicely done. I like the choice of background music--it reminds me very much of "Sandstorm" for some reason. Which, you know, is kind of appropriate...
For the shop vac I suggest looking into a dust collector/separator. It will extend the life of your vacuum and put the sand into a external bucket. Might even be able to join two or more shop vacuums for extra power.
Looks like it’s coming along great! If wood does ok down there maybe try raising the tracks with 2x4s? Also, has anyone tried tunneling a staircase as deep as they can go? Also also, can that LiDAR scan be converted into a 3D object/stl? Might make an interesting challenge for the printer 🤔
Wood gets moldy really fast, the humidity is super high. Dave wants to see how far down we can go before hitting another type of rock, but he's busy doing another tunnel design now. And I think someone has 3-D printed part of Sandland before!
You should package up the sand you remove and sell it as Sandland Collectibles. Offer from different soecific rooms and let people collect the entire set.
I also use those EIOT club cards. They work great for automotive Android radios because they use all 3 networks. So I always have a signal as I'm listening to Spotify.
I hear you can use aerosol glue to adhere the sand to the tracks for ballast. Then use air to rid the tracks of debris. The funny thing to me is when I worked in a switchyard, we filled the locomotive with sand to use it for traction. 😂
A truly lovely idea with the train and such a beautiful old steam locomotive, I really like that. I wonder if you can also print the LIDA model with a removable cover, the layout has already become quite large. I'm curious to see what it looks like when the railroad line is finished.
Have you thought about using like a Harbor Freight Dust Collector? Also, I saw someone mention something about field telephones in Sandland.... If you can find some old mine telephones I will donate a phone system and weatherproof cabinet :)
that is amazing progress on this project. btw, an idea i had is to add little mustache to the train, in the front, like brush or something. this way it an clean its track on its own. it also adds a bit of personality to it ig, so thats W. happy new year and merry christmas man. love from india ❤
i'm a new viewer to this channel and was wondering where he has these tunnels. were they under his house? he said he left some lights at home, so i assumed not. where is he keeping these caves? fascinated. trains look sick as hell
New Bright!! I've come across them while looking into New Ray for a kitbash G scale. Though all the sets I can find are prohibitively expensive and labelled "vintage" to pull the wool over people's heads. Plus import fees and it's just not worth pursuing.
This is all very interesting. I'm concerned that we're going to hear about a bunch of people who were accidentally buried alive somewhere in there. What about ventilation?
This type of sandstone stays stable as long as you don't dry it out too much. We have 3 entrances so there's a bit of natural airflow, plus we have a fan in one spot
This coming summer, I'll be in that general area. I'm pretty good at manual labor, even though I'm getting older. Whenever I see Sandland videos, I think to myself that they could use somebody that's stupid enough to be content hauling buckets of sand to the surface. It didn't take me long to think of somebody who might fit that bill. I'm stupid. I still have some brawn remaining. I could lug buckets of sand! (See how my brain works?!?) If I'm headed into your region AND have time, how can I email you to offer a day or two of my labor? I'm already visiting someone nearby, as is often what happens when I take these trips. My past dozen or so bouts of wanderlust have seen me meeting people I know only from the internet. So far, I've not yet met anyone who plans to crack open my skull to eat the delicious gray matter within. It has been quite successful. No, I don't have a channel to promote. I don't need the attention. I don't need the money. The only useful thing I can give you is lugging buckets of sand.
I'm not the property owner, so I usually refer people to him for volunteering. If RUclips doesn't eat the links, it's digsandland@gmail.com or there should be a FB link on tunnelcity.com
Hey, when you're showing the video of the field at night. You see those little whispy artifacts found across the fov, those look almost exactly like cosmic rays in a cloud chamber. I'd that the case?
@saveitforparts to which you're probably correct, but wouldn't that be interesting? I was also going to ask if there has ever been a radiation survey at sand land?
We didn't get any track, they tried to give me the track for free but no one could figure out how to move it, and then they remembered they ran a bunch of utility wires through it back in the '70s. Now it's a walking trail at the zoo.
in a small space like that concrete will cause problems over time due to the difference in how porous the concrete and sandstone are.. dehumidifier and bare walls recommended. cool project though.
Dehumidifier with bare walls would make it crumble, the sand loses stability if it dries. Some kids have discovered that when they start campfires in the caves in St. Paul. If the smoke doesn't get you, the ceiling does when it dries out.
@@saveitforparts if it is such low density sandstone you need a polymer based shockcrete on chicken wire, that's how they do bunkers in the chalk in the south of england. i'm from yorkshire, we got hard sandstone. if you are serious about using it as a fallout shelter you might want to design a thermally active ventilation system. have a long travel multi stage u bend at the less used end of the bunker for cold air in, activated charcoal filters in the troughs of the vent, then cover over where you channeled from with suitable covering material. stow for a hot stove and vertical, diagonal, vertical design to the surface there.. in the more occupied end, conical stack cover at the surface.. all of which should keep you free from heavy metals. if it's not done right, simply the moisture from your breath will turn it into a not viable nightmare.. it's a nice idea though. i wish i had 'project orientated' friends when i was younger.
oh, and you need a dry riser that only lets air flow outwards. then you will be warm, dry and without a healthy green luminescence.. use a stencil to carve a tesla valve vertically at the highest point of the floor space.. then cover it over. good luck.
They'd rust underground, and I really hate the 3-track thing, it ruins the look for me. Plastic is the only thing that will last underground in 100% humidity.
I did computer science but then went into GIS mapping and then real estate, and most of my hobbies are only slightly related to any of that! I'm not really an engineer, although I do like figuring out simple machines and construction techniques.
@@saveitforpartsit would be a place for people like us to share our ridiculous projects together Retrocave has one and its always busy people sharing cools stuff but its geared to vintage computer stuff.
You might wanna set up field telephones to connect different rooms 😊
I have a bunch of them, I've tried setting them up between the outside spots (shed, treehouse, monorail, etc), but the squirrels always eat the wires or trees fall on them and nobody uses them.
@@saveitforparts damn that's a shame, oh well
Pneumatic tubes.
@@itwasrightthere LOL, I was gonna say conduit for the wire, but I like this idea far more because you can send cookies through it
@@saveitforparts That's sad, they sound really fun. In sandland the humidtitty would murk the old gadgets quickly as well. I want to see a video on them but I have no idea how you would make it interesting. The thing being 'neat' isn't really enough to fill an episode.
Attatch a brush to the lead car to constantly brush the tracks ahead of it!
After you get the train track all leveled and the sand smoothed and packed you need to spray the whole of it down with watered down white glue and a little rubbing alcohol. it will lock everything in place and make it a lot easier to clean. Normally you would have to avoid getting it on the rails but since you are not powering the train through the rails it shouldn't be an issue. Also, as someone else suggested you should make a cover for the dump cart and use it as the first container in the vacuum system. Suck the sand right into the cart.
One suggest for the sand vac, make a box on top of the wagon and use the wagon as the dump of a shop vac dust collection system.
You have to make a channel that only have videos of the tunnel it will be easy for people to discover it and share it
Merry Christmas, SaveItForSideProjects!!
This is simply amazing. The tunnels have come a long way since the ill-fated Sandfest over a decade ago.
I would love to walk around those, much easier on the back than the crawling. Gotten old since then.
LOVE IT!!!!!
We can't stop here, this is Skeleton country!
Merry Christmas!!!
Wooden sleepers, also known as railroad ties or crossties, are traditionally used to support and secure the rails on the track bed. You need some cute little scale-model wooden steepers to secure into the sand . Also consider misting it with a spray bottle and packing it down
I've been imagining how cool the Sand Bar train would be and its turning out even funner than anticipated with dinosaurs and skeleton caves in the tunnels! Can't wait to see whats next. I hope you have fun with it.
I think the trains are charming and add a nice ambience to the room/bar.
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That scan was slick. Love LiDAR
wow this is super cool! thanks for sharing!
Man that sandstone look so soft! Barely harder than the industrially compressed sand professional sandcastle folks use at competitions. I've always been a little jealous of people with geology like this where they can just build their own caves. Where I live its all some of the hardest gneiss in the world that shrugs off normal blasting techniques.
I hope you reinforce the walls. Looks like soft sandstone. This looks like a really cool and fun project!
nice
My neighbor Rob would love this, we live in the driftless Region South West Wi, and I have a Micro sandland started. Same sandstone as sandland, Love the videos!
Awesome, would love to see video of it some day!
This is just the adult version of digging a hole in the back yard and making tunnels in the dirt with nothing but a couple spoons and your friends. Although instead of clay-rich soil it's sandstone. Seriously though, this is a really cool series
That's just a super-cute train layout. Nicely done. I like the choice of background music--it reminds me very much of "Sandstorm" for some reason. Which, you know, is kind of appropriate...
I always daydreamed of this in subway stations!
Change that sign so it says Sand Hanitizer. Don't tell anyone.
Merry Christmas. 🎅 73 Leo.
Most cool would be (in my opinion) if that train could deliver a beer or two :)
you could probably spray glue on the sand to keep it down off the tracks like what you do when you ballast a model train layout
For the shop vac I suggest looking into a dust collector/separator. It will extend the life of your vacuum and put the sand into a external bucket. Might even be able to join two or more shop vacuums for extra power.
Looks like it’s coming along great! If wood does ok down there maybe try raising the tracks with 2x4s? Also, has anyone tried tunneling a staircase as deep as they can go? Also also, can that LiDAR scan be converted into a 3D object/stl? Might make an interesting challenge for the printer 🤔
Wood gets moldy really fast, the humidity is super high. Dave wants to see how far down we can go before hitting another type of rock, but he's busy doing another tunnel design now. And I think someone has 3-D printed part of Sandland before!
You should package up the sand you remove and sell it as Sandland Collectibles. Offer from different soecific rooms and let people collect the entire set.
Soon you’ll be able to pass beers from the bar room to other rooms. Choo choo! 🚂 🍺
I also use those EIOT club cards. They work great for automotive Android radios because they use all 3 networks. So I always have a signal as I'm listening to Spotify.
thank you for your support! and also merry Christmas！
I hope you have a chuffing good Christmas!
I hear you can use aerosol glue to adhere the sand to the tracks for ballast. Then use air to rid the tracks of debris. The funny thing to me is when I worked in a switchyard, we filled the locomotive with sand to use it for traction. 😂
I live next door, in Michigan (near Detroit), and this 50+ degree December weather is crazy, lol.
stick a trolley on there and you'll have a good start on a neighborhood of make believe:)
A truly lovely idea with the train and such a beautiful old steam locomotive, I really like that. I wonder if you can also print the LIDA model with a removable cover, the layout has already become quite large. I'm curious to see what it looks like when the railroad line is finished.
You are the new Colin Furze 😁
find free source of pebbles as ballast to raise the track up from the sand. Maybe even course kitty litter.
So cool. I love this content.
You should try the vacuum with a Dust Deputy, it would keep the filter from clogging up so fast
Have you thought about using like a Harbor Freight Dust Collector? Also, I saw someone mention something about field telephones in Sandland.... If you can find some old mine telephones I will donate a phone system and weatherproof cabinet :)
I have a bunch of field phones, but we're pretty bad at using them. Maybe once the bar is more set up I'll put one in there!
"And of course Thomas's favorite place to visit was Skeleton Gulch, where old Mr. Bones lived... er, resided." 💀
that is amazing progress on this project. btw, an idea i had is to add little mustache to the train, in the front, like brush or something. this way it an clean its track on its own. it also adds a bit of personality to it ig, so thats W. happy new year and merry christmas man. love from india ❤
i'm a new viewer to this channel and was wondering where he has these tunnels. were they under his house? he said he left some lights at home, so i assumed not. where is he keeping these caves? fascinated. trains look sick as hell
The tunnels are at a friend's property in rural Wisconsin, where it's legal to dig holes all over 😝
@@saveitforparts ahh i see! thank you for solving that mystery for me.
Please please please have the trains serve the drinks
I'm not sure if they're quite big enough for a beer can, but that would be fun :-)
New Bright!! I've come across them while looking into New Ray for a kitbash G scale. Though all the sets I can find are prohibitively expensive and labelled "vintage" to pull the wool over people's heads. Plus import fees and it's just not worth pursuing.
I keep finding them at garage sales and whatnot, they were super common in the 90s and the little S-scale ones were cheaper than G scale.
"It may be time to throw it in the trash"
Heresy :P
I'm impressed by the look of that 3D scanner. Could you ask your friend Paul some info about the gear he uses?
Maybe I can get him to do a video about it :-)
@@saveitforparts Thanks!
This is all very interesting. I'm concerned that we're going to hear about a bunch of people who were accidentally buried alive somewhere in there. What about ventilation?
This type of sandstone stays stable as long as you don't dry it out too much. We have 3 entrances so there's a bit of natural airflow, plus we have a fan in one spot
some future civilization is studying the train in your cave and coming up with wild conspiracies lmao
Nobody can one-up this mancave ;)
I wonder if an electric excavator would be able to dig through that stratum? Cool, ive wanted to do that for a while, hopefully im not too late haha
have you ever though about making a tunneling machine for human sized tunnels at sandland?
I've seen one tried in sandstone, it was a work in progress and didn't really go any faster than what we can do manually.
@@saveitforparts cool! I never though anyone had given it a go. Im super curious, what kind of tunneling machine was it?
god jul
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Why don’t you get something like a 5 gallon bucket to be in between the shop vac and the hose. Maybe keep the shop vac cleaner and working?
How many fossils do you all find while digging down there?
Nothing in our sandstone, I guess it's the wrong layer or age. I've only really seen fossils in one Sandstone cave (in Cannon Falls MN).
I wonder if you spray some hairspray or clear coat on the sand would it stay off the track better?
gogodod jojulol
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LIDAR rules.
This coming summer, I'll be in that general area. I'm pretty good at manual labor, even though I'm getting older. Whenever I see Sandland videos, I think to myself that they could use somebody that's stupid enough to be content hauling buckets of sand to the surface. It didn't take me long to think of somebody who might fit that bill. I'm stupid. I still have some brawn remaining. I could lug buckets of sand! (See how my brain works?!?)
If I'm headed into your region AND have time, how can I email you to offer a day or two of my labor? I'm already visiting someone nearby, as is often what happens when I take these trips. My past dozen or so bouts of wanderlust have seen me meeting people I know only from the internet. So far, I've not yet met anyone who plans to crack open my skull to eat the delicious gray matter within. It has been quite successful.
No, I don't have a channel to promote. I don't need the attention. I don't need the money. The only useful thing I can give you is lugging buckets of sand.
I'm not the property owner, so I usually refer people to him for volunteering. If RUclips doesn't eat the links, it's digsandland@gmail.com or there should be a FB link on tunnelcity.com
@@saveitforparts Sweet and thanks. Enjoy the holidays.
u play real life like ppl play minecraft
Hey, when you're showing the video of the field at night. You see those little whispy artifacts found across the fov, those look almost exactly like cosmic rays in a cloud chamber. I'd that the case?
I figured it was dust or bugs, sometimes they curve or loop around so I don't think it's cosmic rays!
@saveitforparts to which you're probably correct, but wouldn't that be interesting? I was also going to ask if there has ever been a radiation survey at sand land?
There's some radon in the tunnels, but not enough to worry about for working out there. Just don't want to live in the tunnel :-P
try maby claw for the train so the sand does not d-rail it
Too bad they didn't sell stainless steel monorail, I mean it's an underground lair. .
would it be possible to set up a monorail system? like with the real monorail?
We didn't get any track, they tried to give me the track for free but no one could figure out how to move it, and then they remembered they ran a bunch of utility wires through it back in the '70s. Now it's a walking trail at the zoo.
@saveitforparts >>> ANOTHER great video...👍👍
Put a camera on an rc car and drive it up that hole!
in a small space like that concrete will cause problems over time due to the difference in how porous the concrete and sandstone are.. dehumidifier and bare walls recommended. cool project though.
Dehumidifier with bare walls would make it crumble, the sand loses stability if it dries. Some kids have discovered that when they start campfires in the caves in St. Paul. If the smoke doesn't get you, the ceiling does when it dries out.
@@saveitforparts if it is such low density sandstone you need a polymer based shockcrete on chicken wire, that's how they do bunkers in the chalk in the south of england. i'm from yorkshire, we got hard sandstone. if you are serious about using it as a fallout shelter you might want to design a thermally active ventilation system. have a long travel multi stage u bend at the less used end of the bunker for cold air in, activated charcoal filters in the troughs of the vent, then cover over where you channeled from with suitable covering material. stow for a hot stove and vertical, diagonal, vertical design to the surface there.. in the more occupied end, conical stack cover at the surface.. all of which should keep you free from heavy metals.
if it's not done right, simply the moisture from your breath will turn it into a not viable nightmare.. it's a nice idea though. i wish i had 'project orientated' friends when i was younger.
oh, and you need a dry riser that only lets air flow outwards. then you will be warm, dry and without a healthy green luminescence.. use a stencil to carve a tesla valve vertically at the highest point of the floor space.. then cover it over.
good luck.
The fallout shelter signs are just old ones people have found for decor, we aren't really using it as a bunker or shelter.
Cool video. Really enjoyed it!
hand satanizer!!
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Do you have issues with radon in this space?
There's a little, but it's not at the danger level for occasional visits / digging. You just wouldn't want to live in there 😂
is the scan file available somewhere?
I'll have to ask him, I think he's still tweaking some of the code and point clouds and whatnot.
Try using Lionel trains. They're more reliable.
They'd rust underground, and I really hate the 3-track thing, it ruins the look for me. Plastic is the only thing that will last underground in 100% humidity.
@@saveitforparts There are Lionel battery-powered train sets with plastic two-rail tracks.
Brother,which major should i do to become an engineer like you?(mechatronics or electronic)
I did computer science but then went into GIS mapping and then real estate, and most of my hobbies are only slightly related to any of that! I'm not really an engineer, although I do like figuring out simple machines and construction techniques.
Can we get an save it for parts discord
It's on my to-do list but I already ignore all my Facebook/Reddit/Signal messages so I'd be terrible at keeping up with it.
@@saveitforparts no worries you can ask friends to moderate the server
@@saveitforpartsit would be a place for people like us to share our ridiculous projects together Retrocave has one and its always busy people sharing cools stuff but its geared to vintage computer stuff.
Better late than never? discord.gg/vWtyRuxw
Do you ever sleep???
I have a theory that he sleeps, but sleepwalks down to axeman to buy more stuff 😆
Maybe your charger is not good.
Good thing the cats weren't there, they would have derailed the whole project!
Have you ever tested that mine for radon?
One of the other guys brought a radon detector down and says it's below occupational safety levels, but you shouldn't raise kids in there 🤣
You could pick up a job in Gaza I reccon. Love that train with the tunnels and historically accurate dinosaurs and skeleton.
Don't joke about a ongoing genocide ffs