While Jon's work is great, I still see value in a rules explanation. If I was going to teach this tomorrow, I'd prefer to share links to a how to play video, since not everyone has time for a playthrough.
Thanks. I will speak to NSKN and see if they want one. I also think that shorter just rules videos are useful, though I prefer a playthrough myself - I just dont have the time to watch them. Plus, playthrough vids get a LOT more views, so they must be more popular. :)
To be fair, there are actually two equally accepted ways to pronounce the name of the city. First of all, it should be noted that we do not know what the original name of the city was. "Teotihuacan" was simply the name given the city by the Nahuatl-speaking Aztecs, centuries after the city fell into ruin. In older Nahuatl, the pronunciation can most closely be described as: teh-oh-tee-WA-khan In modern Nahuatl, the pronunciation is nigh identical to the Spanish pronunciation: teh-oh-tee-(h)wa-KHAN Both pronunciations are accurate and accepted. In fact, you get points just for trying your best with a name like this.
It's been up a while but....I just got this game and I'm pretty old! So, I always turn to YT for help in learning rules. For anyone new to the game(s), don't be put off by the video length. ( I was initially). One thing Jon does so well is to explain the thought process behind his gameplay decisions. This is especially useful in a sandbox type of game like this. Though I only play solo, this is the first of Jon's videos I have watched but now I'll be back for more. Thank you.
Excellent work Jon. This is by far the best explanation & playthrough of the game I’ve watched. Even when you accidentally missed a rule, most of the time I noticed the slip up before you mentioned it and that’s because you had explained the game so well. Now when I get this game I can just look up the occasional rule in the book and not have to start reading through it from the beginning. Thank you for the close-ups of what you are doing. So often in board game videos you can’t even see what is happening on the board. You’ve helped so much!
Jon I want to thank you again for these videos you do. You have sold me on so many games. I really like the fact that you put that extra effort in your videos that no one else does, by adding overlay text instead of having it CC. I watch most of the time on my phone so this is amazing and is so helpful. Thanks again and I always look forward to your next video!
I'm glad you've been enjoying them :) FYI you can turn on Klingon subtitles from your phone as long as you are using the youtube app and not a browser link. Mistakes happen even with my editing so watching with them on really can help things out.
Thanks for your hard work. I finally unwrapped this game and it looked very complicated. Your playthrough and patient description of each player's movements has helped immensely.
Yellow player ran away with the game but the red was close until the end. The blue player really made up for slipping behind for most of the game. You did a great job showcasing this game. Seeing the blue player catch up like that shows that if you lose it’s because you didn’t strategize correctly and not based on the games luck or anything like that as there’s so many options to gain what’s needed. You made me want this game.
Afternoon, I recently purchased this game, and this play through is an excellent source; along with your other ones you've done. Thanks very much, and have a good day.
Wow, another great playthrough! I have watched several overviews of this game and didn't have a great sense of this game. After watching this, I am now planning to pick this game up. Thanks, JGG!
This is great! Really helped me to get a comprehensive feel for the game. Are excited to play it! Thank you for putting this together so clearly and thoughtful.
Wow, what a marathon, great job, Jon! One simple move can have 10 knock-on effects and they're not all intuitive ones! Moral of the story, get lots of good tech and utilise it, max out of valley of dead and keep building the pyramid, hang on, that might be impossible lol
Excellent playthrough. I like how you explained each action every time. I recently bought this and your breakdown really made it much more approachable and should make our first time playing go much quicker and easier. I like how there are multiple strategies to win and that a person low on points early can make a charge for the lead.
Absolutely superb playthrough, definitely my favourite way to learn these bigger euros as it’s not just how you play but also the why and thought processes. I think this may be the first one I’ve watched of yours where you lose! I always play yellow so I can’t say I was heart broken to see them take the win in the end 😁
Amazing video. We did our first playthrough yesterday. I think the decoration mechanic is a bit underpowerer (or too expensive), especially when there is no match on both symbols... Also we had a sizable point difference in our game as well. Very enjoyable game nonetheless.
Is is without the right technology, yesturday i played and i did 32 points on the technology and and the 3 points you get on it alone, without adding the points from matching simbols or advancing on the temples
Nice work Jon. Just watched yesterday and played today and your video got me through the teach and gameplay really well. What a great game. Keep up the great content.
1:10:41 - just to check: the Technology tile yellow has for gaining 1 cocoa when landing on or passing board 1 *doesn't* trigger when the new worker (post-ascension) is put onto that board? The rulebook doesn't say either way, but the wording kind of implies you have to be moving the worker onto it to activate that board, or over it from a counter-clockwise board, not placing a "new" worker on it...
I had to double check this with the publisher since the rulebook is vague on this interaction. They said ascension doesn't count for activating that technology.
Very nice playthrough, indeed. Just one question: at 1:29:09, when you place a blue worker on the Palace to convert cocoa into wood and stone, can you use the wood you just received to buy the discovery tile? Is it always like this?
so what blue and red neede to do was building those grey houses more so they would have gained points for building them and ruining the multiplication for the avenue of the dead for yellow.
Yeah, I do think they should have tried to do more of that. There are so many things you can focus on in this game, and it's still important to see what opponents are doing and try to mitigate their advantages.
Excellent playthrough yet again. Just wish this game wasn't on backorder until January :( Will you be attending PAX Unplugged Philly at the end of November?
Not at all. It rewards a well executed strategy and game play. It is important to pay attention to changes in the game state. An action that might just have been your best choice may have to be abandoned in favor of something with a greater reward. Other times, sticking to a plan will be rewarded more. You can totally come from behind, and I have seen that happen many times.
AliPlaysALot Feudum is a much harder game. Between this and Rahdo’s Run Thru, I could sit down and teach this out of the box. And intend to do so in Essen next month :)
Teotihuacan is significantly easier to teach and learn than Feudum in my opinion. Sure there is a lot going on here, but no where near as much to hold in your brain as Feudum.
Thanks, also i noticed that at 52:50 when new worker of yellow player is placed into palace after ascension, does he benefit from that technology that gives 1 cocoa every time his worker enters or passes the Palace?
I'm not too familiar with your style just yet so I have to ask: if you've made a "tutorial & playthrough" video of a game does that imply you will not be making a review of it? Thanks in advance.
Am i the only one who annoyed by the graphic...or better said the non graphic :( it is a problem for me thought the game itself is very good :) so controversial :))
You know you have Rodney Smith beaten with this video? His teach makes the mistake of starting by explaining all 14 (!) setup steps, and lost me there. Those are not important to learn the game, so you wisely skipped them. And by illustrating the various actions during a simulated playthrough made them seem simple to grasp, whereas listing them all one by one in abstract would feel overwhelming. It's not even too heavy a game when you know how to play (it basically plays as a medium weight), it just sets a high complexity barrier to enter it.
i enjoy all of your videos, but why do you always record these tutorials and playthrus with rules always being broken? How much time do you spend into reading the rulebook and looking online, and even asking the developer/publisher for rules clarifications before posting anything?
I am really impressed by how well Jon teaches the game! He manages to not only explain the game in a clear and concise manner, but to also showcase different strategies, all while playing as three separate players AND doing this on camera!
There’s rarely a game like this that’s recorded by any board game channel that doesn’t have something go a bit off with rules or something the host forgot to do. Some don’t even point it out or only mention it at the end. Most play through videos do it with multiple people or the host is only playing two characters or going solo. Jon does multiple players/characters at once. Plus he corrects his mistakes for the most part. I believe he goes over his schedule a lot and has mentioned the efforts he puts into his videos. This isn’t easy work. His other videos layout how much work he has ahead of himself. He does a great job at what he does. To learn the amount of games he does and execute each one while maintaining his life outside of gaming like his relationship and I believe his work job plus host gaming nights with his friends and family, and traveling to these conventions to meet and greet with publishers for more work and to get his name out there as a place/person to go to. Because of his solid videos he’s now a play tester which proves he’s doing just fine, it’s impressive. He’s clearly dedicated and doing great. Sure he can cut back on some of this stuff to perfect the videos but he’s mentioned the foot print he wants in the industry, he can’t do that if he spends weeks on one game. Contacting the publishers for rules clarifications , and a response may not happen as fast as he needs, so he works around all this. I’m sure he asks the hard questions if he needs to. Publishers and anyone else have their own schedule to stick to. The fact that publishers are sending him their games shows he’s doing something very good. So I don’t think your words are mean but perhaps you didn’t watch all his videos especially the ones that aren’t just his play throughs.
Excellent job. I was going to do one, but no need now, I'll just point people to this one :)
While Jon's work is great, I still see value in a rules explanation. If I was going to teach this tomorrow, I'd prefer to share links to a how to play video, since not everyone has time for a playthrough.
Thanks. I will speak to NSKN and see if they want one. I also think that shorter just rules videos are useful, though I prefer a playthrough myself - I just dont have the time to watch them. Plus, playthrough vids get a LOT more views, so they must be more popular. :)
I'm here for the first time and I love this idea of explaining and playing simultaneously!
Best walkthru of the game Ive seen. Plus, your like the only one who pronounced the game correctly. Appreciate it Jon :)
Love Jon, but no, he doesn't.
To be fair, there are actually two equally accepted ways to pronounce the name of the city. First of all, it should be noted that we do not know what the original name of the city was. "Teotihuacan" was simply the name given the city by the Nahuatl-speaking Aztecs, centuries after the city fell into ruin.
In older Nahuatl, the pronunciation can most closely be described as: teh-oh-tee-WA-khan
In modern Nahuatl, the pronunciation is nigh identical to the Spanish pronunciation: teh-oh-tee-(h)wa-KHAN
Both pronunciations are accurate and accepted. In fact, you get points just for trying your best with a name like this.
Never thought ill hear the word cocoa so many times in my life haha
I don't have the game. I don't plan on buying the game. But here i am relaxing due to this amazing production
It's been up a while but....I just got this game and I'm pretty old! So, I always turn to YT for help in learning rules. For anyone new to the game(s), don't be put off by the video length. ( I was initially). One thing Jon does so well is to explain the thought process behind his gameplay decisions. This is especially useful in a sandbox type of game like this. Though I only play solo, this is the first of Jon's videos I have watched but now I'll be back for more. Thank you.
I'm glad you found it informative :)
Excellent work Jon. This is by far the best explanation & playthrough of the game I’ve watched. Even when you accidentally missed a rule, most of the time I noticed the slip up before you mentioned it and that’s because you had explained the game so well. Now when I get this game I can just look up the occasional rule in the book and not have to start reading through it from the beginning. Thank you for the close-ups of what you are doing. So often in board game videos you can’t even see what is happening on the board. You’ve helped so much!
It's great to hear you found this so helpful :)
I played this game for the first time with Jon at GAMMA 2018. Its amazing!
That was a good time :)
Jon I want to thank you again for these videos you do. You have sold me on so many games. I really like the fact that you put that extra effort in your videos that no one else does, by adding overlay text instead of having it CC. I watch most of the time on my phone so this is amazing and is so helpful. Thanks again and I always look forward to your next video!
I'm glad you've been enjoying them :) FYI you can turn on Klingon subtitles from your phone as long as you are using the youtube app and not a browser link. Mistakes happen even with my editing so watching with them on really can help things out.
Thanks for your hard work. I finally unwrapped this game and it looked very complicated. Your playthrough and patient description of each player's movements has helped immensely.
Awesome, I'm so glad to hear that :)
Yellow player ran away with the game but the red was close until the end. The blue player really made up for slipping behind for most of the game. You did a great job showcasing this game. Seeing the blue player catch up like that shows that if you lose it’s because you didn’t strategize correctly and not based on the games luck or anything like that as there’s so many options to gain what’s needed. You made me want this game.
I'm glad you found it useful, and hope you get to try the game yourself :)
Your play-through videos are great! They help to clear up the interpretation that some games can create. Thanks.
Exemplary work as ever, John: I was literally cheering as blue started their comeback!
I was very happy to see their plan work out so well in the end :)
Afternoon,
I recently purchased this game, and this play through is an excellent source; along with your other ones you've done. Thanks very much, and have a good day.
This is highschool for games!!! Love this channel!!!
Another fantastic tutorial. Must've taken ages to make. Many thanks!
I don't know how you do these, Jon. Great work!
Phenomenal video as always.
Your videos are of such incredible production value.
Always a pleasure to learn a new game with your videos.
Thanks a lot!
Jon is in the top five board game channels :-)
Best walkthrough the game so far for sure. Yellow should have one extra move up the track just before 2nd eclipse as they build pyramid
Merciful sweetness! That is a lot of stuff going on. I'm not sure I could play this with any skill given how much is going on. Well done, Jon.
Wow, another great playthrough! I have watched several overviews of this game and didn't have a great sense of this game. After watching this, I am now planning to pick this game up. Thanks, JGG!
This is great! Really helped me to get a comprehensive feel for the game. Are excited to play it! Thank you for putting this together so clearly and thoughtful.
Wow, what a marathon, great job, Jon! One simple move can have 10 knock-on effects and they're not all intuitive ones! Moral of the story, get lots of good tech and utilise it, max out of valley of dead and keep building the pyramid, hang on, that might be impossible lol
damn, that yellow is good!
Excellent playthrough. I like how you explained each action every time. I recently bought this and your breakdown really made it much more approachable and should make our first time playing go much quicker and easier. I like how there are multiple strategies to win and that a person low on points early can make a charge for the lead.
I'm glad this one helped you out, I hope you enjoy your first play of it :)
Excellent very well put together can’t wait to get it to the table thank you!!
You did a wonderful job with this teach and play
Great video! Couldn't understand this game. But with this playthrough, it was really easy
Absolutely superb playthrough, definitely my favourite way to learn these bigger euros as it’s not just how you play but also the why and thought processes.
I think this may be the first one I’ve watched of yours where you lose! I always play yellow so I can’t say I was heart broken to see them take the win in the end 😁
Thank you for the full playthrough. That's amazing. The game looks so great with so much variability.
Thanks! This was a fun watch! Cool looking game with a lot of interesting stuff going on.
Best board game channel! Thanks Jon!
Amazing video. We did our first playthrough yesterday. I think the decoration mechanic is a bit underpowerer (or too expensive), especially when there is no match on both symbols... Also we had a sizable point difference in our game as well. Very enjoyable game nonetheless.
Is is without the right technology, yesturday i played and i did 32 points on the technology and and the 3 points you get on it alone, without adding the points from matching simbols or advancing on the temples
4:50 If I remember correctly for the setup-blue-temple-bumps you have to choose stone, its not a free choice. Only during the game it is.
Thank you for this playthrough!
Nice work Jon. Just watched yesterday and played today and your video got me through the teach and gameplay really well. What a great game. Keep up the great content.
I always love hearing that a playthrough helped with someone teaching the game to others. I'm glad you enjoyed the video and the game :)
This was really neat and it cemented that I really want to get this game!
This video is so great! Learned it easily. Thanks Jon
FYI, the opposite value of the dice is total 7, opposite 1 is 6, 2 is 5 and 3 is 4 so it will easy to find no need to look for every no.
Cool game play. You should do one with the expansion. Really learned a lot.
I enjoyed this play through so much, my fiancée got this game for me for the holidays! Too bad she won’t let me play it until the 25th.
Now that christmas has passed, I hope you have been able to give it a shot :)
Awesome Playthrough. Thanks
Great teaching video...as usual. Ready to play now!
Thats a beautiful board
A really good job Jon! Thank you.
1:10:41 - just to check: the Technology tile yellow has for gaining 1 cocoa when landing on or passing board 1 *doesn't* trigger when the new worker (post-ascension) is put onto that board? The rulebook doesn't say either way, but the wording kind of implies you have to be moving the worker onto it to activate that board, or over it from a counter-clockwise board, not placing a "new" worker on it...
I had to double check this with the publisher since the rulebook is vague on this interaction. They said ascension doesn't count for activating that technology.
@@JonGetsGames Thanks for checking, Jon! The same question actually came up on a BGG thread too, so good to know an official answer.
Thank you! Awesome playthrough!
Great game and great playthrough!
Very good video, very clear !
Awesome playthrough!
Remarkable work! Thanks!
Great job, Jon! Thanks! Glad I got this game! Do you like the expansion?
I haven't had a chance to play with the expansion, I actually gave my copy to a friend a while ago so I likely won't have an opportunity either.
Very nice playthrough, indeed. Just one question: at 1:29:09, when you place a blue worker on the Palace to convert cocoa into wood and stone, can you use the wood you just received to buy the discovery tile? Is it always like this?
I believe you can since you can do those in either order, but I am not the final authority on this.
so what blue and red neede to do was building those grey houses more so they would have gained points for building them and ruining the multiplication for the avenue of the dead for yellow.
Yeah, I do think they should have tried to do more of that. There are so many things you can focus on in this game, and it's still important to see what opponents are doing and try to mitigate their advantages.
Excellent playthrough yet again. Just wish this game wasn't on backorder until January :(
Will you be attending PAX Unplugged Philly at the end of November?
Unfortunately not, it is simply too close to BGGcon and since I go there with a bunch of friends every year that is my priority.
Thank you !
Excellent video! If you were to choose between this and Tzolkin which would be your pick? Thank you!
They really are quite different, but I think overall I'd lean slightly towards Teotihuacan between the two.
@@JonGetsGames Thank you!
It was interesting to see blue's endplay. Does the game have slight runaway leader issue?
Not at all. It rewards a well executed strategy and game play. It is important to pay attention to changes in the game state. An action that might just have been your best choice may have to be abandoned in favor of something with a greater reward. Other times, sticking to a plan will be rewarded more. You can totally come from behind, and I have seen that happen many times.
Great to hear this, Rainer! (As Teotihuacan is on my most wanted list this year :))
1:29:54 They're unionizing!
Which one did you find harder to learn/teach: Teotihuacan or Feudum?
AliPlaysALot Feudum is a much harder game. Between this and Rahdo’s Run Thru, I could sit down and teach this out of the box. And intend to do so in Essen next month :)
@JonGetsGames, "Which one did you find harder to learn/teach: Teotihuacan or Feudum?" I'd love to see your answer.
Teotihuacan is significantly easier to teach and learn than Feudum in my opinion. Sure there is a lot going on here, but no where near as much to hold in your brain as Feudum.
52:51 does the yellow player has a technology which give him a bonus when they land on the 1 tile? does it activate when ascending?
I do not believe this technology activates during ascention, just when a die moves to or past the 1 area through normal movement.
Thanks!
Thanks for the support!
The pyramid shape makes me think more of Chechen itza rather than Teotihuacan
Can you move the same worker that you made action with in the last turn? Or do they have to be 2 different workers, never the same one twice in a row?
You can keep activating the same worker if you like.
Thanks, also i noticed that at 52:50 when new worker of yellow player is placed into palace after ascension, does he benefit from that technology that gives 1 cocoa every time his worker enters or passes the Palace?
@@marcinkryczka7044 No I do not believe that activates that technology.
pleas emake tzolkin gameplay
I'm not too familiar with your style just yet so I have to ask: if you've made a "tutorial & playthrough" video of a game does that imply you will not be making a review of it? Thanks in advance.
That's correct, I am no longer making review videos on the channel.
@@JonGetsGames Ah, I thought you enjoyed sharing your opinion on a game. What happened?
@@TheFilipFonky I explain why I made the change here: ruclips.net/video/TeW7P6UXfGc/видео.html
In addition to a playthrough, this game needs its own pronunciation video:
ruclips.net/video/-2tnuta4mbk/видео.html
Am i the only one who annoyed by the graphic...or better said the non graphic :( it is a problem for me thought the game itself is very good :) so controversial :))
erick filen I thought it was fine. If you want to see a graphical mess, look at Lisboa. I can’t tell what is what on that board!!
You know you have Rodney Smith beaten with this video? His teach makes the mistake of starting by explaining all 14 (!) setup steps, and lost me there. Those are not important to learn the game, so you wisely skipped them. And by illustrating the various actions during a simulated playthrough made them seem simple to grasp, whereas listing them all one by one in abstract would feel overwhelming. It's not even too heavy a game when you know how to play (it basically plays as a medium weight), it just sets a high complexity barrier to enter it.
i enjoy all of your videos, but why do you always record these tutorials and playthrus with rules always being broken? How much time do you spend into reading the rulebook and looking online, and even asking the developer/publisher for rules clarifications before posting anything?
Why not point out the broken rules in that case - not just take on the person going to the effort to provide these tutorials. Seriously!!
I am really impressed by how well Jon teaches the game! He manages to not only explain the game in a clear and concise manner, but to also showcase different strategies, all while playing as three separate players AND doing this on camera!
There’s rarely a game like this that’s recorded by any board game channel that doesn’t have something go a bit off with rules or something the host forgot to do. Some don’t even point it out or only mention it at the end. Most play through videos do it with multiple people or the host is only playing two characters or going solo. Jon does multiple players/characters at once. Plus he corrects his mistakes for the most part. I believe he goes over his schedule a lot and has mentioned the efforts he puts into his videos. This isn’t easy work. His other videos layout how much work he has ahead of himself. He does a great job at what he does. To learn the amount of games he does and execute each one while maintaining his life outside of gaming like his relationship and I believe his work job plus host gaming nights with his friends and family, and traveling to these conventions to meet and greet with publishers for more work and to get his name out there as a place/person to go to. Because of his solid videos he’s now a play tester which proves he’s doing just fine, it’s impressive. He’s clearly dedicated and doing great. Sure he can cut back on some of this stuff to perfect the videos but he’s mentioned the foot print he wants in the industry, he can’t do that if he spends weeks on one game. Contacting the publishers for rules clarifications , and a response may not happen as fast as he needs, so he works around all this. I’m sure he asks the hard questions if he needs to. Publishers and anyone else have their own schedule to stick to. The fact that publishers are sending him their games shows he’s doing something very good. So I don’t think your words are mean but perhaps you didn’t watch all his videos especially the ones that aren’t just his play throughs.
Thanks!