Why the US isn't scared of Russia's S-400
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- Опубликовано: 11 авг 2022
- Russia’s S-400 Triumf, often referred to as the SA-21 Growler within NATO circles, is widely touted as one of - if not the - most capable air defense systems in the world.
With the ability to leverage a variety of missiles to engage different air threats, an engagement range of nearly 250 miles, and widely praised counter-stealth capabilities, the S-400 has gained a reputation as one of the few systems capable of countering America’s air-dominance approach to warfare.
But is that actually true?
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Further Reading
Full S-400 Analysis: www.sandboxx.us/blog/the-s-40...
How Russia’s warfare doctrine is failing in Ukraine: www.sandboxx.us/blog/how-russ...
Hypersonic missiles and missile defense: www.sandboxx.us/blog/hyperson...
Tracking stealth on radar: www.sandboxx.us/blog/americas...
AARGM-ER: www.sandboxx.us/blog/the-navy...
Rapid Dragon: www.sandboxx.us/blog/rapid-dr...
Citations:
Missile Defense: www.rand.org/natsec_area/prod...
S-400 development: missilethreat.csis.org/defsys...
S-400 EW countermeasures: www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/resr...
RCS figures: faculty.nps.edu/jenn/ec4630/rc...
S-400 Hellenic Air Force assessment: www.researchgate.net/publicat...
20 miles targeting envelope: aviationweek.com/defense-spac...
Russian military doctrine: sgp.fas.org/crs/row/IF11625.pdf
S-400 cruise missile vulnerability: www.rand.org/blog/2020/05/rus...
Geographical features as a limitation: worldview.stratfor.com/articl...
Russian S-400 tests: www.nti.org/analysis/articles...
S-400 in Syria: www.rferl.org/a/weher-was-the...
Pakistani Air Forse S-400 assessment: www.airuniversity.af.edu/JIPA...
The S400 was hyped every bit as much as the rest of Russia's capabilities.
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@@harrisonhari What drugs you on
@@harrisonhari
No F35 has flown a stealth mission, so thats irrelevant.
As we speak, it seems like Ukraine is demonstrating more HARM than good comes to those who trust the S400... 😜🤣
@@springbloom5940 doesn't matter. You can't beat physics. These planes literally reflect radar signals an order of magnitude less. There isn't a way around that.
It's like looking at a mirror that reflects 99% less light. You're not going to bang your head against the wall and look at it upside down to see more clearly.
It's always best to assume the enemy's weapon is more capable than it actually is. Preparing for the absolute worst would allow us to curbstomp them if there actually was a conflict and their equipment doesn't live up to expectations.
but when you look at the comments, and the propaganda surrounding wars it seems the assumption always is that the enemy is really stupid, incapable and clueless and definately any equipment and training they have is second or third rate. Meanwhile every piece of equipment that you have is perfect unstoppable and flawless and its all being taken care of soldiers who are genius level intellect, strong as a horse and brave and completerly fearless with such perfect training that they can do everything in there sleep.
Lets just hope that the policy makers, generals, admirals and leadership does not take the propaganda to heart.
@@islandwills2778 Well, there's a dichotomy between what you tell the troops, and what you tell the engineers, planners, etc.
in preparation & planning, you want to assume the worst. but you want the troops going in to feel optimistic.
Spill-over between the two is a very real problem though, yes.
Correct bro! NEVER go into a fight by underestimating your adversary. If you do that, you will surely lose. 💯
Beat them? No. Shoot them? No. Whip their ass? No. Curbstomp those bastards haha. I liked it. Outta nowhere comment.
@@islandwills2778 you hit the nail on the head. But unfortunately some people think that they are invincible.
It's going to take a bloody nose to bring them back to reality.
$500 drone has entered the chat...
$500? If you are meaning "S500" it does not exist.
S-500 have exist. Still you don't know
@@ismailhossain5984 Yeah, like the T14, Su57 and a whole bunch of other ruZZian BS exists...Potemkin...
With Russian equipment, you need to talk about 2 versions... the version that is complete and properly maintained and crewed, and the version that is missing pieces and not maintained at all with horrible crews.
While on paper its a somewhat scarry plane, the reality is far closer to the 2nd version. It doesn't matter how great it should be if its missing important parts, rusting, and run by crews that have no experience and lacking training.
So how many S400s have been destroyed today? Several missile launchers were destroyed in Crimea, but not the radar itself. So it was not an anti-radiation missile.
A lot of these "Stealth is useless" arguments start with the assumption that the F-22 is flying at 30,000 feet in a straight line all by itself and has no countermeasures. Its just up there relying on nothing but stealth and good looks
Stealth is part of a wider strategy. the F22 will be fed data by every asset in the ground and the air while it decapitates Russian defenses..
Stealth is useless started out as russian propaganda and picked up by Internet trolls that hate the US.
But then said Russia and China are both hard at work trying to develop and field stealth fighters.
I believe youre right, if you were expecting a particular thing in a particular direction, you can ready yourself for it, most wartime satelite images as frequently as they are updated could be up to a week old, so theres quite a large possibility you have no idea what entered active range, did something, and had the opportunity to leave again, most aircraft are fast enough that you only get minutes of warning, and even so the word to the wise is “if you hear it, you wernt the target” i like the f22 as much as the next guy, but its role is not exactly suited to bomb runs, id almost suggest that its main job will be homeland security back in the US, the rafael and the f35 are more than suitable for most tasks you would send small fighters in for, even to overwatch areas or bombers. If air superiority is the goal, you would be lead to believe the ground forces need to have enough presence to assist those aircraft aswell even in cases of canyon type ground where forward radar is not a safe warning system.
Well that's how the F 117 was shot down over Servia.
@@samuelgordino Yes and that’s why it hasn’t happened since. Lesson learned.
I was expecting another robot-voiced defence industry video mill, but I was pleasantly surprised by the quality of the video.
I enjoyed learning about some of the technical details are how radar systems and stealth technology work.
Great work!
Dude, if you can't find better explanations, Your YT search skills need to be patched ASAP.
Alex has a fantastic channel. And he's way smarter than any Marine that I've ever met. 😏
@@Gunni1972 Wow, You really took the time to twist a positive, encouraging comment into an insult.
Bravo... *_slow clap_*
I agree that it's a good video, but it in no way talks about how things work which he likely doesn't know or if he does can't share, he talks about what they can do, not really how in any detail. I'm saying this as someone who does know, enough not to talk about it. The actual *how* is a combination of physics and data analysis that wouldn't make for a video anyone almost would want to watch, it would be hours first about radar, return signal type analysis and evaluation which isn't a topic that many are interested in. It is good that he does mention that stealth isn't actually invisible, rather the return from it is incredibly weak, enough to be ignored as it mixes with noise from background such as birds and various other things.
it's not scientific report dummie .... it's just the video probably sponsored by the RATHEON ....
If you want to learn about the adversary deffence systems... do it on your own... not from the U-Tube LOL
Very informative. Your assessments on air power is great and best of all true. Thank you Alex
Alex,
Thank you for your service.
No matter how good the system is it's only as good as its operators... and we've seen how good Russia has been training its forces in real time lately
They're still advancing mate
@@johnpaul3099 Absolutely... at great cost relative to what they are taking... this will continue as long as they can find meat to feed into the grinder... at some point though they're going to run out... also I was talking about the effectiveness of their systems relative to the skill level of the operators... and you will note that 6 moths down the road they still don't have air superiority/dominance
@@johnpaul3099 For the amount they are spending their performance and effectiveness is very very questionable. But sure if you feel better by ignoring everything else and just look at whether they are advancing then yea sure they are.
@@johnpaul3099 Not recently. In most places it’s a stalemate, and in others it’s been give and take.
@@Lee-zn7lj This will continue until Ukraine becomes aware that they lost the war... And until then, they will not lose only 25 percent of the territory, they will lose the whole of Easter Ukraine. And what meat?? 15.000 soldiers is too much for you? Then I guess your country should not go to war ever. You obviously suffer from war fatigue.
Not to mention the use of electronic countermeasures that give false radar returns to basically trick the enemy into wasting their missiles on aircraft that do not really exist would also render most of these counter-measures ineffective against an attack by the US.
Extremely well done well-researched without bias Semper Fi
Just wanna say thanks sooo much for your service an your friend’s service as well
As a retired f18 guy with a side specialty in EW I was impressed by the quality of your video and tactical discussion. Well done.
I subscribed.
If you say this is legit I'm gonna take it to the bank. Thank you for your service.
@@barryrammer7906
Hi Paul
group EW officer 1st Canadian Air Group Baden... F104
Nato EW oberammergau
RAF cranwell EW
USAF EW Mather AFB
410 OTU Cold Lake F18
Along time ago in a galaxy far far away but the basics remain the same.
Keep up the good work.
@@larrydugan1441
An USAF F-18 and USN F-18 are going to out perform the S300 and S400 systems. Never mind the use of F-35 and F-22.
Alex ! First time seeing your material on RUclips and I just wanted to send kudos your way! I sincerely appreciate the manner you cover the subject matter. I personally enjoy folks quoting credible resources. Not to mention the way you handle unavailable information. Honestly for me it genuinely validates your view point specially for a curious viewer on the subject matter. Nicely done!
That is quality content! I realize I’m not an expert but ur presentation included a lot of information! Thanks
Another issue that has arisen from Ukraine is the ability of Russia to operate their own fighters in conjunction with their IADs due to fratricide and deconfliction issues.
Yet the Ukraine War shows us that American military equipment is generally superior to the Russians.
I don't know what that means but it sounds good for US
@@nastradumbass (Fratricid) It means kill their own aircraft and (deconfliction) being so confused by what to shoot at that they don't shoot at all. And IADs is Integrated Air Defense System meaning the ability for one part of the system to talk to and work with another part of the system.
Ummm English please lol
@@majboomer1285 thank you citizen 😊
This is one of the only channels like this with good analysis. Nice work Alex!
check out perun also
@@Genericyoutubeuser he is not really neutral and objective like Alex. Alex does a way better job like what a jornalist is supposed to. Perun on the other hand is just entertainment but not serious journalism. Not even close. But I dont want to take anything from him, he makes entertaining videos but thats it. Its more about his opinion and his interpretation than objective reporting, so one should be mindful of that.
@@Kenny-yl9pc don't think you have seen much of perun videos based on this comment, Anny ways i also love Alex/Sandbox :) but i think its important to be open to other peoples view points, and try to understand and make my own perception out of facts, not bias with one side. lot of miss information in this terrible times we are in. may peace be with you
Millennium * 7 is another one.
@@Genericyoutubeuser I´m a subscriber and regularly follow his content. Yes I agree it is very important to be open minded, curious and try to expand ones knowledge as much as possible in order to broaden ones perspective and understanding. That´s is why I watch and follow people I don´t agree with. For example regarding Ukraine I watch both sides. The sad truth is there is almost no one impartial/neutral and thereby objective. I know of maybe 2 channels that are trying their best to be neutral as much as they can. But most are heavily biased. And I know they are but still in order to broaden my horizon I watch pro Ukrainian and pro Russian content. I really hope you are not just talking and doing the same. Because I really agree with you. But I know some that say something very similar but in reality they are only following "their" side. They believe that only "their" side is honest and the "other" side is dishonest and lying. I really hope you hold what you promise my friend. Because that´s great to hear, we need more people trying hard to be as objective and fair as possible. That are open for all perspectives and give them a fair chance. But don´t play this partisan politics nonsense. That is in the way of true solutions and only a grotesque simplification of the reality. I wont go into detail. But stay true my friend. That´s important. But unfortunately very rare.
Great stuff man
Also when you were talking about saturation attacks, the US could also use Bombers like the B2, which are hard to detect even with low band radar, and small diameter glide bombs; I think I heard that a b2 could theoretically carry 64 of these bombs which could over saturate even the largest s-400 battalions.
Why spend money on JASSMs, Tomahawks, AGM-88s or Storm Breakers when you can just launch a hot air balloon with a cargo of cigs and watch the Russian SAMs self immolate? Serious answer, yes B-2s and B-1Bs are more suited to busting through a air defense sites since these sites would normally have long range AShMs if they are susceptible to a naval air attack which would make the Navy hesitate to carry out the operation since F-18s and F-35s don't have much combat range (without refueling) to put a safe margin of distance for the carriers. So they would need to launch their planes several hundred miles away. These carrier borne fighters can generally only carry either 1 JASSM or AGM-88 so a whole squadron would need to be launched to equal the cruise missile payload of a single B-1B. The consideration here is the difference in difficulty of refueling and keeping in station a smaller group of B1-Bs or several squadrons of FA-18s/F-35s. The most likely role the fighters would play is to just protect the bombers as they make their run. Storm Breakers or SDBs would have very short ranges to really take on SAMs unless the radars have already been taken out and they in in the mop up phase.
And he didn't really mention how effective decoys like MALD have become. It eventually comes down to who has the best programmers and algorithms.
@@TroutofHate but why not use a low flying drone with those cigars it can fly below tree top level
@@slycer876 You didn't know? All NATO bombs and missiles have cigarettes in their warheads. This is a well known Russian weakness since the days of the USSR. It's surprising how its just now being covered by experts.
The development hypersonic weapons and advance jamming systems makes the S-400 moot
Current cruise missiles need 30 mins to cover 250 miles , EW planes can't suppress S-400 for that long
The AGM-88G travels Mach 4 and covers that same distance in 5 mins
hypersonic weapons can cover that distance in as little as 1 min
As always, I love and look forward to your videos. I found out about your channel from watching Ward Carrol, as he mentioned you have interesting and accurate content without the BS or politics. Thank you!!!
Mike Tyson : "Everyone has a plan until you get punched in the mouth"
All you need is a swarm of drones, each with a missile that homes in on the S-400 radar.
Only one drone needs to get through - bye-bye S-400.
Drones are super-cheap when compared to the cost of a radar.
Option 2 - a Tomahawk cruise missile.
Option 3 - a "jammer drone" (or a small swarm of them) that jams the radar emissions.
Lots of options!
I think you're absolutely right and it reminds me of the US Navy getting spooked by a war game where a swarm attack by many small manned boats on paper defeated the intercept attempts by the defending team. I know there was some chicanery in that war game but it did make the Navy revise their point defense systems. Ultimately the USA has the ability to put together multiple high dollar and low dollar strategies against more tightly budgeted opponents.
Drones are probably the future, they don't need to fly 100s of feet, they could fly 1 foot above the ground following the terrain, no radar is going to see that coming.
Um, there’s no such thing as a “ Tomahawk cruise missile” Tomahawk is Navy, Cruise missile is Air Force.
My question has always been...how can Russia claim that their air defense systems will dominate stealth aircraft WHEN THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE ANY STEALTH AIRCRAFT TO TEST THE SYSTEMS AGAINST?!?! There is quite literally no way for Russia to have ANY IDEA if ANY of their systems will work against an F-35 or F-22 or B-2 or B-21. You can't just CLAIM that your junk "will have no problem tracking and shooting down F-35s" when you not only have never tested the system against one, but you don't even know what kind of capabilities the F-35 even has.
And please spare me any BS about Russia's garbage Su-57. The Su-57's radar cross section is MASSIVE compared to the RCS of ANY of the US's stealth aircraft. There is absolutely no comparison. First of all, the IRST pod on the front of the Su-57 sticks out like a sore thumb on radar. Second, the panel gaps on a Su-57 are CAVERNOUS compared to ANY American stealth aircraft. Hell, even compared to a 40-year-old F-117. Third, whatever coating is on the surface of a Su-57, it is NOWHERE CLOSE to being as radar absorbent as the coatings on American stealth aircraft. I wouldn't be shocked to discover that the Su-57 is just painted with regular paint and has NO radar absorbing properties AT ALL. Fourth, I can say with absolute CERTAINTY that the Su-57's electronic warfare capabilities DO NOT EVEN COME CLOSE to those of an F-35 or F-22.
So I ask again. How was Russia ever able to even spread these lies all over the western media when they CAN'T POSSIBLY KNOW whether or not ANY of their anti-aircraft systems can spot an American stealth fighter, let alone track and destroy one?! It's absolutely ludicrous.
It's called living in "Russian Peace" with propaganda.
Literally bro. If Russia claimed it used its (I`m not sure the amount) say 10 Su-57s against the S-400 & S-500 for years since it came out. And somewhat detailed its capabilities, I`m sure we in the west would actually be more concerned.
4th-4.5 gen will struggle: F-22, F-35, B-2, hell maybe even MQ-25 may srvive.
@@douglasnyquist2933 Yes but the problem is that even the Western media spreads this BS. This is literally why Turkey was kicked out of the F-35 program (which they NEVER SHOULD'VE BEEN IN IN THE FIRST PLACE, but I digress)...because they bought the S-400 system and giving them the F-35 would've meant that FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER, Russia would actually get to test one of their AA systems against an American stealth fighter. Not only the stealthy shape of the aircraft and its RAM coatings, but ALSO with its extremely cutting-edge electronic warfare systems running.
It would've been a security risk of epic proportions. It would've given them the opportunity to develop (or at least TRY to develop) a system that actually could reliably track and target the F-35. The Russians aren't going to get to test their systems against an American stealth aircraft unless we go to war with Russia directly (or unless someone from an ally country defects and flies their F-35 to Russia or China...God forbid).
Does china have stealth fighters/, drones is it possible they used to those to test out their systems?
The Su-57 has an rcs of .1 to 1m^2. That’s about the same as a super hornet without equipment on the hard points. American stealth aircraft are 1000 times stealthier.
Very good explanation.
Great video… well put together.. I definitely like this perspective… makes more sense…
Alex Hollings,
Thank you for your service!
Thank you for yet another well presented, educational and informative presentation which those without military experience can understand!
As an RF/microwave engineer with experience across all those bands, on one hand i continue to be impressed with the advancements of stealth, countermeasures, counter-countermeasures, …. It really is AMAZING.
But on the other hand i am so tired of seeing nations sacrifice all their money to the god of war while forgetting about their people. Man has become incredibly smart in terms of knowledge, yet so foolish and lacking any measurable wisdom as seen in politicians. What a paradox.
War is among the few legitimate functions of a state. Prosperity is up to the individual citizen.
@@deriznohappehquite I agree that prosperity is up to the individual. (Too bad individuals are overtaxed to pay to reinforce govt posturing/ego.)
It's a jobs program. All of those engineers and fabricators developing warplanes and ships and tanks, not to mention everything else (uniforms, boots...) that pays the bills back home for everyone who isn't getting paid to hold the front lines.
Also, public investment in new technologies is sort of best case scenario for capitalism. Collectively, the market can't even agree on USB, but hundreds of MIL-STDs and FED-STDs exist and have been in place for decades (with revisions) to create standards and norms for cross-generational technological compatibility.
@@Lawrence330 I think you assessment is spot on.
Human nature hasn't changed and really can't if you understand evolution. Ukraine is just the most recent example of what has been going on for thousands of years. Having said that, almost all conflicts come from dictators like Putin. They are gradually going extinct as nations mature and form representative governments.
An excellent analysis, Alex. Thanks !
Very good overview and helpful for my FDSA study.
Even though S-400 is capable it is not intended to be used against cruise missiles or small drones, since cost of interceptor would be much higher than that of target destroyed. This is a job of short and medium range systems like Pantsir or Tor which would normally protect S-400 site.
This analyst was pretty sneaky. Let me just begin by saying that this is a high-quality, nuanced assessment. But when the issue of Russian IADS came up, he simply said that the US would fare well against third-party operators, but made no further comments on how it would perform against Russia. Unlike third-party operators, Russia would set up IADS to counter US air superiority attempts.
Moreover, some of the empirical evidence he used are simply not applicable or are incomplete. Russian-operated S-400s in Syria were never meant to protect non-Russian assets in the country, so claiming it did not intercept missiles employed against a Syrian airbase doesn't mean much. Regarding Nagorno-Karabakh, Calcara et al. (2022) published an article for International Security showing how undertrained and underprepared Armenian operators were, so that war doesn't say much about the S-300's capabilities themselves. Citing the Bayraktar TB2 was also a big mistake. Since Russia set up IADS in Ukraine, TB2 drones were rendered useless, and Ukraine barely uses them anymore. They were effective in the early stage of the invasion because Russia's intelligence thought Ukraine would surrender quickly, so they didn't really plan out their air defenses against potential Ukranian attacks. But overall, this is an excellent video.
@@Lbcyoung actual written arguments on the internet? no way
Not a military guy. But I think the Ukraine has showed us the value of well trained and dedicated personnel. Hi tech superior weapons arent very useful without them.
I wouldn't call them well trained. Ukraine is definitely not a highly skilled military. There is a small percentage that are partially well trained. They are lacking in leadership the most. But they are more flexible and enough of them have specific skills they can spread around. Just a bit more skilled then the majority of the Russian military.
I think it's more a showing of Russian incompetence and Ukrainians dedication. Along with the majority of the worlds help.
What I think is being missed alot though is how many of the troops are actually Ukrainians fighting from LPR/DPR. Weither voluntarily or involuntary. With t62s and equipment from that era. How many of them and how many of the losses are from there? Who knows.
@@taz4100 I think he was paticularly talking about the Russians.
Besides the most appaling part is not the invasion of Ukraine itself but how other people have used this for virtue signalling (both sides) and the fact that they think fraticide is entertainment.
yeah anyone can be that good with 100 billion USD support and lots of ammunition,aircraft,tanks etc etc.
hey Alex thank you for your service
"So underestimated." Yeah, right. Well see.
Very informative video. I love it. Thanks for your great research. SEMPER FI!
All us stealth fighters are equipped with radar hunting missiles for that one purpose 👌
This is the only channel I have the bell icon clicked. Love your stuff ❤️
Nice video. On the CG shots showing the equipment on the ground, such as at 11:42, what was used to make these shots?
Excellent video! Very informative and accurate!
Great stuff thank you for your service to our country 🇺🇲
If Russians had a REAL stealth fighter maybe they would have air superiority in Ukraine by now. 🤣
And they do, and they are winning slowly. Russia is fighting the war with one hand behind its back.
Too many SAMs for this.
Rememebr the US F117 shot down by a SAM system that was 20 years out of date and that was 20 something years ago, so a newer system eg 50 years newer.
@@billjane5522 Good lord it gets tiring how often people bring up this instance of the F-117 shoot down, but, either don't know the actual circumstances in which the plane was shot down, regardless of the sophistication of the SAM that was used at the time, or, they willfully ignore it to try and use it as a "gotcha!".. This excuse against stealth tech is entirely disingenuous. If you don't know how and why this particular shoot down was possible I suggest you do some research into how it happened. There is a reason there hasn't been another one since.
Stealth isn't an invincibility cloak. its at best a "targeting inhibitor" system.
Excellent assessment. I spent 10 yrs in the USMC as an ECMO in the EA-6A and B (Prowler) so I know what you're speaking of. Given the Russians performance against Ukraine for the past year, it's clear that their skill in integrated warfighting especially air defense is likely inadequate as well. As you pointed out, stealth, etc. are all components that have value. They perform best when integrated. The S-400 alone has value, but without tight integration with a larger integrated air defense system will be limited.
I dont know why people keep parroting nato talking points. You know better, Marine. Unless you are completely buying into the Western propaganda, then you know that Russia hasn't even begun to dedicate it's main forces to this fight. They are primarily using a defense contractor. The fact that they are still holding their own against NATO firepower speaks volumes to anyone outside of the mindless cable news drones. And every time Russia does strike at Ukraine with force, Russia smacks them down with ease. For every one Russian that dies, 7 Ukrainians are dying. Ukraine is expending artillery shells at a rate 5x what NATO can supply them with. And 10x with small arms ammunition. The only thing inadequate is this wars assement by people that know better.
Logistics have been the most alarming setback to Russia for me....Russian generals seem very inexperienced. Either way they have been incompetent and being picked off at will seemingly
They eliminated the entire Ukraine air force within a few months. They need fighters from NATO, so I'd say Russia's IAD is a bright spot compared to the rest of their military.
@taylorc2542 ukraine had around 60 older soviet fighters at the beginning of the conflict and now have around a dozen or so left obviously the exact number is unknown, but you act like they had some massive air force😂 at least half of those planes were destroyed on the ground as well, not by SAMs. Against a nato force of fighter tech that Russia didn't build and isn't familiar with, not to mention with far greater numbers, Russian SAMs would be a threat but they would be destroyed fairly quickly
@@taylorc2542Russia can’t even fly their aircraft over Ukraine…..
Never mind the missle syst.Thank you for your service to a FREE and grateful nation.
No one knows how good it really is.
Love how everyone is a military analist suddently
My dad shot down a mig17 with a prop plane, was an advisor during the formation of top gun and taught at naval war college,
I trust his opinions.
The only stealth fighter that was lost was due to zero EW jamming, same flight route and poor planning. The S-400 might be up to the task head to head but the 22 and 35 will never be alone.
The Steatyh bomber lost was shot down by a SAM system that was 20 years older than the plane, so a Modern SAM system would be a different matter.
The F-35 has the world's most powerful radar suite that is so powerful that it outperforms the Growler in electronic warfare. It also has a variable frequency radar band that makes it impossible for enemies to detect a lock, so they'll never know that an incoming missile is heading their way. It can also set up decoys on radar by spoofing their systems with fake jets.
Even USAF and Navy F-18 would outperform the S300 and S400 in a real war.
They lost the f117 due to an amazing unit leader on the serb side, slackness on nato behalf. Those dominoes rarely line up.
Yep, you are right
But, the S-300 S-400 and S-500 are not alone too .... come over and taste the juice
So Russia is basically “if you can’t make it, fake it”. 😂😂
S-400 ‘s make great targets. The low and high frequency signals makes easy to see and target
S400 manned with top tier crew would be very formidable, but Russia has shown over the last 6 months that that is highly unlikely. Conversely, during the war in Kosovo it was demonstrated that a highly capable crew could operate to dangerous effect even with older equipment
"but Russia has shown over the last 6 months that this is highly unlikely" what are you talking about?
Every single game changing American wonder weapon was announced with great fanfare in the media and then slowly faded away.
I think this is an excellent opportunity to these stealth aircraft to the test.
Let's see what happens when they go up against the unskilled and drunk Russians.
20 YEARS IN AFGHANISTAN...... OUTCOME? ZERO GAINS, 85 BILLION IN ARMS GIVEN TO THE ENEMY. HAHAHA USA FORCES ARE WOKE AND WEAK
@@pop1626 the goal was not to get an outcome. The goal was to transfer taxpayer money into the hands of private industry and get a kickback while doing it.
The same game is being played in Ukraine.
@@Mike-gi2oi Speaking of kleptocracy, I wonder how members of the Senate and Congress become multi millionaire in a couple of years with salaries of $150K per year.
Save you retro for Joe and his junkie son.
Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then. Kosovo was just a luck and coincidence. Once in a lifetime shot down that was not and won't be able to be repeated again.
Great stuff, respect to you Alex 💪
Another excellent breakdown as usual, Alex! Thanks for your hard work!
i twelfth that comment
Great vid.
Gotta love the systems.
And … it’s AALLLLL about systems.
Good one cat.
Thanks!
Nice work!
Much love for your content❤❤ from #ZAMBIA
Did the Zambian Space Program ever come to fruition? See RUclips. It was started in the 1960’s and reported on by the BBC.
@@ibnewton8951 no
Alex: as usual very objective and unbiased report on the S-400. Can you make a segment on the HARM delivered to 🇺🇦, is it true? How are they attaching those onto their aircraft? How you think they are using it ? Can they be delivered from the ground? Hope more viewers are interested on this subject!
I saw an article on a military website, I can't remember the name but it's pretty interesting. remember Poland had 20 migs they wanted to give to Ukraine but everyone said no it would escalate the Russians. So they couldn't be flown to Ukraine or the Russians would know.
So the report says America took the 20 migs, modified the interface to be compatible with NATO missiles (HARM)
Then took them apart, took the wings off and shipped them into Ukraine on semi trucks. Then the Ukraines just had to reassemble them and presto, 20 new modified migs and Russia never had a clue. If it's true, that's absolute genius.
The US-government confirmed it and there are pictures of the piecesof them after being fired
@@Zaaxun Sounds about American
@@Zaaxun sounds like russians are clueless about what is going on by their boarder 🤪
The ways the West used HARMs was to fired it in the direction of the radar system before the crafts ender the SAM zone. Once they turns on the radar they get hit. With that method the P-51 can take out even if Russian field S-1,000,000,000,
This was excellent. Thank you.
Very detailed presentation, and excellent. I still don't quite understand why long wave radar would be better at detecting a stealth aircraft. I always thought the longer the radar wave, the larger the target must be to reliably detect. I'm an ex-submarine officer. Whenever we put the periscope up we would get an immediate indication of the EW environment. We didn't worry about long wave surface search radar because our periscope was small. We never wanted to hear a high repletion rate short wave radar!
The Aircrafts are designed to combat short wave radar waves. Which means that the their radar signatur on long wave Radars are much bigger than on short wave Radars. A Long Wave radar produces a very uncertain image, you know that there is an Aircraft up there, which produce an radar echo most of the times in a bubble of half a mile. That is what Long wave Radar produces. The same goes for your Periscope, the resolution of this Radar is so bad it can't differ between a Metal Rod, a Periscope or a large Wave. And it is in a circle with an Mile of a diameter, absolut useless on Ground or Water. In the Air there are very few flying objects at that high, so it works as early detection.
But to target it with a rocket, you need about 2 foot accuracy in Air and 1 foot on Water, and this can only be achived with short wave Radars. To which the Stealth fighter are constructed against and are hard to spot with.
And here comes the long range HARM in, the normal Tactic of an Air Defence Network would be to use the early Warning System to Monitor the Air Thread and only activate the Short Range Targeting Radars when the Stealth Aircraft is in Range.
This is how they got the F-117 in Kosovo: They only did short Radar Sweeps with short Range Radars when they knew something was out there.
With the normal Harm Missles you can't take out the Long Range Warning System before you are in Range of the Short Range Radars, when they are in a 50 Miles defense Circle with integrated Network. With the new AGM-88 Version they can now attack Long Range Warning Radars from over 150nmi away, which renders the Network worthless as it is the long Range Detection Range of those. When the long Range Radars are blind they don't know when to activate the short Range Radars with their 20nmi range.
@Elkarlo77 Why can't they run their short wave radar non stop as well? Or is it just pointless?
Long wave radar is like 144P (this also known as low frequency) now short wave radar (high frequency radar) is like 4K ultra HD. You need that "HD" signal to get a weapons grade lock. Stealth doesn't care about the low frequency radar because it's spotty and can't get a weapons grade lock. So it can tell you something's there but can't tell you what or accurately track it.
stealth work in narrow radio frequency, also on radar frequency close to linear size of obstacles (stealth or not) differ from rayleigh scattering and called resonance reflection
@@davids8127not pointless rather dangerous as HARM will see them and get an easy kill.
Great video as always. One thing though I've heard from other experts is the performance of Ukraines AD systems despite not having a complex IADS. Its reported by RUSI experts that BUKs OSAs, SPAAGs like Shilka, Tunguska that are not operating within an IADS have also kept the Russian Airforce out of the fight. So the US should look deeper into whether its current systems would be able to destroy or supress AD systems operating in a similar manner
Look to Serbia for an example of how that has actually been done
It requires an incredible amount of training to operate these effectively. Russia or the Arab nations don't have the talent or institutional knowledge to staff these in any number. Putin only funds bureaus like Phazotron just enough to keep his most talented engineers from leaving the country; Russia's biggest problem is brain drain.
i watched a buk U-turn and kills its own. might be why
@james Deer lmao you're delusional. in the same way I could say the combat aircraft and SAMs Russia has are the original ones owned by Ukraine and the former USSR. You talk as if their radars and missiles were not made in Ukraine SSR
Ukrainians don't exactly work their anrti-air in IADS, they operate it in something like a IADS/ Vietnam-style decentralised hybrid system.
Similar to how in basketball you either cover a player, or you cover a sector - Ukrainians are using a hybrid approach.
Some more explanation: channel Animarchy History,
The Air War in Ukraine: How Russia failed and Why Ukraine Survived ruclips.net/video/2sFfV2nXIi8/видео.html
That B21 is the most beautiful piece of machinery I've ever seen. The F22 is not far behind. How ironic that such effective killing machines are so aesthetically pleasing.
It's cool to see how much they take after nature too
Then you have the f23….
👍🏻👍🏻😎 great work
I just appreciate that this video was narrated by a human and not some cheesy computer generated voice 👍
As you stated at the end, it all comes down to mission planning by whoever flies over. Finding routes between coverage, jamming, etc. And if we look back at the Iraqi invasion, flooding the air with cannon fodder drones ahead of the actual air force.
to be fair the iraq really did not have much in the way of air defense and an air force that was laughable. I think Russia is a different beast and one that should not be taken so lightly.
No matter how you look at it achieving air superiority would be a costly affair.
@@islandwills2778I disagree. Iraq’s air defenses (1991) may not be up-to-par with the US. However, Iraq had simply the MOST number of anti-air systems at the time. The fact that the US was able to take those out without suffering much is a HUGE blessing and a testament of superior war planning.
Although Iraq’s air force, well, its role and performance was less stellar than expected.
@@kiro9257 two words WILD WEASELS 😜 🤪 LOOK THEM UP
Drone technology will revolutionize combat against SAMS. Plus the war in Ukraine has revealed how badly disciplined and inadequate supply side warfare apparatus. I have no doubt that Russians SAMS would takedown some US planes , but America would gain air superiority very quickly in a conflict against Russia.
So why waste all this money on “stealth” if this is the route needed?
Alex. Knowing that our armed forces has intelligent, well informed personnel like you makes me sleep better at night. Your videos are always well researched and give in depth treatment of a subject. It contrasts with some of the more hysterical and sensational channels. Thanks for your hard work. I am so glad I subscribed.
They better be good because at a 1 trillion a year we are leveraging our past two generations and our future to have such a great military that does a whole lot protecting other democracies while ours becomes stupider every day. You think that trillion might go a little ways at improving American education, training, and environmental programs...especially as teachers and public workers are actively on strike because of low pay. Might also help Americans feel better at home to be able to invest into social/police programs that limit violence(so they don't feel the need to sleep on an assault rifle that is more likely to kill their children or themselves) and investing in addiction and drug treatment might help save some of those 100k that are going to overdose to death next year. But hey, we can vaporize some shitty mercenaries in a failed state a half a world away.
What the hell do you want?
Yep. We are not scared but we never want to go closer to it.
You rock my dude 🫡🇺🇸
"Hypersonic" and "manueverable" are an oxymoron. The reason is that the faster an object is, the greater the energy needed to deviate it from its vector. That is, a hypersonic missile may very well be "hypersonic" at launch, but as it attempts to manuever, it has two options (combined the two could make a hybrid third "option"). Those are control surface guided maneuvering, the same as normal aircraft use, or vector thrusters, which turn the nose into a different vector. The gotcha in that is that any change in that vector loses energy in the initial direction of the vector. That means that to maintain the hypersonic speed, the rocket has to have an adequate energy reserves to maintain the axial hypersonic speed regardless of vector changes. Worse, higher speeds demand wider turning radius, and the greater the speed the wider that radius will be. That means that the hypersonic missile is potentially more vulnerable to interception than slower, more maneuverable missiles might be.
1. Russia launches their undefeatable missile Zircon.
2. Physics and gravity applies make the missile fall down.
3. Putin found dead after "Special Military Missiles Test Launch in Moskow Operation".
Good point, and you don't even need a supersonic interceptor to shoot down a super-/hypersonic missile if its flightpath is predictable enough. From the frontal hemisphere, that is.
So IMHO, the only promising use case of hypersonic weapons is strategic weapon, where the target is static, accuracy is not the most demanding, and the non-parabolic flight path makes it harder to be intercept by traditional anti-ballistic missles.
THIS RIGHT HERE. But whatever nobody actually cares to pay attention to any logic or reasoning.
The one way to defeat such a fast weapon is jamming it,create a jamming wall between its point of origin and its target.
To those who question intercepting the GMLRS rockets launched from HIMARS and M-270's.
GMLRS travel at mach 2.5. Around 1/2 mile per second to a max target range of 57 miles. Or in the air for about 114 seconds max.
That is how much time an air defense battery has to detect, determine friend/foe, target it and have your defensive rocket intercept it. Unless you're in the exact right spot, it's likely the GMLRS will already hit its target before you can intercept it.
GMLRS cost about $150k each. Regular rockets are relatively cheap. So even if you're in the right location, it's easy to overwhelm an air defense system.
Simply launch a barrage of MLRS along with the GMLRS.
The S-x00 air defense batteries usually contains 8 launch systems with 4 rockets each. (total 32) They are not cheap.
So would HIMARS only get intercepted by short range missiles like stinger, pantsir or alike?
Being told it's to expensive to keep You alive doesn't really sound great does?
You don't even need F-35's for that. Homemade drones are enough 🤣
Great video.. I'm not an expert on any of this, but great stuff.. Great stuff..
Tim
On a more serious note I would be interested in videos on rotary wing aircraft
I am surprised there was no mention of systems such as the U.S. Compass Call platform which can disrupt the ability for any IADS to properly function even if they set it up. Great video, thanks for going deeper into the subject and not using a robotic voice for narration.
I took a drink every time Alex used the term 'leverages', now I can't find my feet.
We've been preparing for what the enemy *_SAID_* they have, but in reality oversold the shit out of it every time...
We have no reason to be afraid of anything at this point...
Most people have little understanding about Air Defence system and thus, easily fall for the hype of S-400 parroted by the bots. They fall for paper performance without realizing its real world implication. The S-400 became operational in 2007 and glorified for its 400 km engagement range - little do many realize that the SAM (40N6) with 380 km range didn’t become operational until very recently.
They’re also unaware of the type of target(s) 40N6 is designed to engage. For nearly a decade, Russian outlets claimed 40N6 having Mach 14 speed with ‘anti-satellite’ capability - only when the missile went operational a year ago, the manufacturer’s data pointed a complete different reality - Mach 3.5 speed with smaller engagement altitude than PAC-3 MSE against ballistic missiles.
And it’s designed specifically for non-maneuverable targets (AWACS, Bombers, UAVs, etc.) and not ideal for tactical Fighters.
Against Fighter aircraft, S-400’s range actually shrink to a maximum of 200-250 km with 48N6E variants. This is not much different than the so-called "inferior" Patriot.
For decades, outlets highlighted everytime Patriot failed, while ignoring its successes. In 4 years, Patriot in Saudi Arabia intercepted over 230 ballistic missiles - that’s more than 1 intercept every week. How many ballistic missiles or anything did S-400 intercept in last 15 years of service? Zero.
People talk about Patriot’s failure in recent attack on Abqaiq oil refinery in Saudi Arabia, how it failed to intercept Iranian drones while overlooking S-400’s performance in Syria. The S-400 had been deployed in Russia’s Khmeimim air base in Syria since 2015 and that particular air base faced multiple drone attacks over last 3 years. There has been multiple failure to defend the air base against drone attacks, some resulting in Russian aircraft being damaged and personnel killed - yet the S-400 was never used to engage any UAVs despite repeated failure of point defence systems.
These also highlighted serious flaws in Pantsir S1 - a system designed specifically to deal with such threats and Russian analysts reporting those flaws were forced to remove their posts.
The US fielded PAC-3 with hit-to-kill warhead in 2000 as kinetic warheads are much more effective against hypersonic targets. Russia still relies on conventional fragmentation warhead and there’s no indication of it getting kinetic warhead anytime soon.
At the same time people don’t look at Aegis platforms, which is the US equivalent of Strategic Air Defence system. The S-400’s pesa primary Search radar 91N6E is capable of detecting a 0.4 m2 ballistic target from 250 km.
The Aegis’s now obsolete and non-AESA SPY-1D(v) reportedly “can track golf ball-sized targets at ranges in excess of 165 km.”
Golf ball = 0.0025 m2. For a direct comparison, if you scale SPY-1D’s range to 0.4 m2, then it corresponds to 587 km - that’s more than twice the range of S-400 (91N6E).
Unlike S-400’s overhyped 40N6, the SM-6 on Aegis with 260 km+ range can engage almost any endo-atmospheric target from sea-skimming cruise missiles, tactical aircraft to manoeuvrable ballistic missiles in their terminal stage. There’s nothing comparable to SM-3 in Russian service, the most tested exo-atmospheric interceptor with a range of 2,500 km.
The Aegis BMD system have demonstrated its ability to engage targets over the horizon using targeting data coming from airborne platforms as part of Cooperative Engagement (NIFC-CA). SM-6 have engaged cruise missiles solely relying on targeting data from F-35 or E-2D.
When was the last time you heard S-400 doing something like this?
Very well said my good man!
You can't forget the human error ( vodka factor)
Comrade general needs more vodka. Yah. For the motherland. Yah!
Russia hardware is hyped up just like Putin.
Great video. Any weapon underestimated is potentially very dangerous. There are so many factors that can determine its efficacy. The fact of the matter is, a TON of intelligence is going to go into any potential strike in a region where anti-aircraft systems are deployed. The US, and NATO as a whole, will likely know where most, if not all of Russia’s S-400s are in a given region chosen for a strike. Thus, a battle plan will be determined. F-35s and B-21s should be able to effectively navigate and come up with a flight plan that will limit their exposure to those systems and allow them to target them from a safe distance.
At any rate, Israeli F-35s have been reported to have flown directly over S-300 and S-400 systems in Syria and were not detected. It’s also possible that not all of the F-35s stealth and anti-detection capabilities have been made public, and it’s also possible that the S-400s abilities are over-exaggerated.
No, most modern air defense system are not fixed, they are moved constantly. Stealth fighters/bombers can be detected. Contrary to many beliefs stealth are not 100% stealth and can be detected by newer radar and can be targeted. As for S-400, there s a lot we don't know. Often times, we, the west, we under-estimate Russian weapons. Yet, in Ukraine, Nato weapons, including ours, seem to be over-estimated.
Где все эти факты? Вы свято верите во все то что вам говорят что у России все не современное вооружение и как украина побеждает. Однако мы видим как вся бронетехника нато и США горит и всю немощность пэтриот. Почему США не разрешают украине вывести на поле боя абрамсы? Потому что весь мир увидит как они горят так же как и сгорели хвалёные немецкие леопарды.
I appreciate you disclaimer about cross section talk needing to be taken with a grain of salt. I wish more people would give such disclaimers. I like when people can acknowledge that they don't have all the facts.
Great info brother Very fair analogy
Basically, the F-35 without jamming support can drop a JDAM on an S-400's radar from about the same distance that the S-400 can track the F-35. I will admit, that is not a mission profile I would want to fly - but it does mean that if the launchers are dispersed, the launchers are vulnerable to even just a gravity bomb. Of course, the F-35 would probably use anti-ER or other standoff weapons vs something nasty like the S-400, not a gravity bomb... So the S-400's low frequency radar's best use for the operators is knowing when to pack up and run - if you have a target on the low frequency set that you can't acquire with the tracking radar, then it's time to shutdown, relocate, and maybe try to get online again and get some shots off (and move again!) before the strike package is gone.
Provided the damn thing can see anything at all. Junk is junk
They are also vulnerable to HIMARS type missiles and long range drones. Another threat is the decoy missile which can pretend to be multiple aircraft on radar and potentially drain a weapon system.
@@orlock20 Ture, but this seems to be a fault of some poor programming. The system is likely able to stop HIMARS. Seems the S-400 is seeing the HIMARS missiles as inexpensive rockets that they don't want to engage with expensive missiles and by the time the system reacts it's to late. I am sure they will fix this in the future.
Anyone of the low frequency radars taken out would degree detection and put the system in jeopardy to attack. Like every other system the radars are the eyes.
F-35 would be more likely to use Stormbreaker II's than JDAM's.
SDB II's have a lot more range. It's a pretty small warhead, but 200 lbs is enough to mess up any ground vehicle from above easily. And SDB II's approach is fairly subtle.
But the stormbreakers would likely be phase-2, first you'd use HARM or AARGM's to blind your target area.
It’s all about SAM engagement zones and being able to fly between the gaps. Then deploying stand-off weapons (even SDBs), decoys and drones supplemented by ECM just outside the edge of the engagement zones. Also the phrase “integrated air defence” is important as the S400 needs to be defended against low level threats with systems like the BUK and Pantsir.
Just use a barrage of Himars rockets and that will do :) neither s400 or buk etc would stop them. Or anti-radiation missile, as all you need to destroy is the radar. Funny how s400 WAS widely regarded as the best airdefense system in the world lol.
I had read, that in that situation in Syria. Russia did infact turn the S400 system shut it down from firing against American Aircraft. Not to say the Radar was off because they wanted it on for info on the stealth Aircraft. So they kinda did have it off, but at the same time had the radar on. To gain Valuable info.
Came here expecting a rah-rah USA USA type video, left with a head full of info about radar math. Thank you, Sandboxx. Well done!
one thing to remember is that no air defense system can reliably protect the whole area in its max theoretical range. That includes patriots. Especially not when the integrated air defense network is hampered by communication problems and covering contested air space full of your own planes. Various reports from Ukraine have described constant issues with friendly fire, with Russian forces both shooting down their own planes and bombing their own ground forces by mistake.
One of the biggest assets that the PATRIOT system has is robust IFF and RCS-identification algorithms in order to more positively identify what aircraft or missiles are on their way into the engagement zone. After all, if your radar has enough resolution you can almost see the shape of the aircraft that's reflecting back at you if that information's been programmed in. I wonder if the S-400 has anything even close to that level of sophistication? I don't question the radar's ability, just the software behind it.
Holy shitlev Yuri
We shot down our comrade
Putin will be angry
Yah. Quick, grab the vodka
Russia is great. Yah.
More vodka comrade general
Yes which leads me to believe they have no idff capabilities, for ground or air. Hell they're using off the shelf walky talkies
The real value these systems have at their max range is being able to relay that information to smaller or local systems like SHORADS or to vector fighter intercept in the absence of AEWC.
Has Russia ever built any equipment that performed anywhere near its reported or expected capability?
Soviet era AKs
No
Bmp ifv, 2k22 tunguska, rpg7, konkorus heat, ak47, iskander icbm, kalibr cruice missile, su25, smerch system, tos1, s300, uragan etc. Russia haves a lot of great military creations don’t forget that, but not everything is good as they want you to believe ( the military equipment that i mentioned are some good examples of great soviet/russian military engineering)
F-35 Block 4 is fighter, EW, AWACS, SigInt and datahub plane all in one
Excellent assessment of the s400
Great explanation of these defense systems, for those of us who aspire to be military personnel and just didn't get to do it for one reason or other, and have so much gratitude for those of you who did. These types of videos keep us in the know and keep us excited about what and were we are as a nation or nations who stand for freedom.
F35 only scare S200 Syria 😂😂😂
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Right on! I had cancer when I was a teen so could never join the service, US Navy, I’ve always regretted not being able to serve. These quality informed videos are awesome!
I disagree. That makes you wrong.
It comes down to tactics. An f35 flying Willy nilly high in the sky will probably be taken out, but one piloted by a man with a plan will surely beat the s-400
Or a few dudes with some C4.
@@mill2712 yea like badass sf operations =P
@@mill2712 yeah, sure...you watch too many Rambo movies...
Correct me if I’m wrong but I can’t think of an F35 being flown willy nilly. I doubt that pilot would be flying an F35 for an extended time
@@criticalevent Oh and ofc F-35's fly alone and without Electronic warfare planes sure sure
Rule #1 in War… Never Underestimate your enemies….
Well done on shout out to your oppo and his son. Nice one !
Thanks for this rare facts video. Others never mention how incredibily short range the "stealth detecting" waves are, particularly X-Band Transmissions. AWACs have massive ranges due to higher altitude and LOW band frequencies that can't see smaller (Stealth) objects.
You don't really need F-35s, you need EA-18g Growlers to knock out or Jam the Radars. AGM-88s , or standoff weapons with larger standoff distances.
F-35s have a better jammer suite
Thank you so much for all that info Young Man; it calms Me to no end to receive info like that after watching Putin threaten Us every month on social media !!! I am a 67 year old retired cancer survivor and just want to say I loved Your video and Your fantastic thought processes Young Man and God Bless You and thank you so much for Your service /❤
TL;DR for "stealth cracking":
They can detect at relatively longer range, but margin of error is large, and it can't track until very close range. LazerPig made a great video on this
Very interesting video regarding the S-400, buttom line I gather respect the system and the enemy's capabilities and level of years experience regardless. I recall how the first F117 was shot down.
The F-117 that was shot down was due more to the US screwing up than Russian technology. US commanders even admitted screwing up because of poor mission planning. The F-117 flew the same flight path four nights straight and at the same time at night. It’s not that hard to shoot down an aircraft if you know when and where it will fly over. The shooting down took place in the fourth night of the war, and despite flying many more sorties afterwards not another one was shot down. If you think about it logically, only one was shot down in its 30 year lifetime, and after flying thousands of sorties. Look at how many aircraft Russia has lost in Ukraine and even Georgia by using legacy aircraft.
@@Thetequilashooter1 this video clearly states the planning and coordination is so critical to any planning. Leadership that executed the planning for the F117 mission became careless and maybe it was due to war fatigue early in the stages of the conflict.
@@Thetequilashooter1 you forgot to mention that the bomb bay door was stuck open and the serbians fired all of the battery basically blind they had no radar active just fired in the general direction of the f117 was a mix of poor american planing and luck/ improvised thinking by serbia definitely a neat story and great learning experience for future engagements by SAM sites
ruclips.net/video/bE2D3G-ogLs/видео.html&feature=share. S200 damage f35
@@colejones594 excuses excuses bottom line usa so called invisible stealth jet shot down by much older Soviet tech missile at the time.... I guess it's stealthy only to the American defence system n not to the Russians....ehhh...
*RECENTLY, SEPTEMBER OF 2023, A RUSSIAN S-400 WAS DESTROYED WHILE A DRONE LITERALLY HOVERED ABOVE IT TO RECORD THE STRIKE. S400 IS WAY OVERHYPED.*
Yep. Everything about Russia is overhyped. They are currently getting stomped by a poor country with no navy or Air Force
Good militaries overestimate their opponent bad militaries downplay their opponent
S400 the friendly fire specialist.
I think it’s far better to overestimate systems with potential to be used in combat against us and set that as the bar to work against than hope they won’t hold up against us in battle. Tanks, S-400, planes, etc. Diplomacy is far more likely to win out when we remain prepared for the worst.
at least you have no facts to your assumptions. the Russians now have the S500 and S550, so go ahead with your bombers, and see how well you will do against them--besides, the Russians are not sitting idle, they have now created
Russian Trolls engage!
Well the F 35 sounds impressive but so far they are having a lot of trouble keeping them in the air so "Be Afraid"!
Israel's been knocking out the S4 hundreds and the S3 hundreds and they don't even need stealth