Testing my new Tilt Deck Trailer from Texas Pride Trailers with EWALD Kubota! Part 2 of 2
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Update: We found that the SVL-95 Kubota Track Loader actually was around 11,600lbs as equipped. Which makes it around a ton heavier than originally thought.
That’s Correct. I have both the SVL75 and 95
One thing I think mentioning is with longer wheel base vehicles such as the RTV you may want to consider locking your hydraulic cylinder because if the front axle passes the tipping point of the tilt deck before the rear axle is on the deck the tilt portion will start to lower possibly causing damage to the undercarriage of the vehicle. Granted it didn't happen in this case but certinally could under the right circumstance
So in other words Kubota doesn't know the weight of their own equipment that THEY are selling.
So with a 12k lb GVWR and a 11.6k lb load, you have 400 lbs for the trailer. Do you think the trailer weighs 400 lbs? Or are you accounting for tongue weight + trailer weight + truck weight (yes, all 3) being less than the truck's 14k lb GVWR?
@@haroldspivey198 how are you liking your 95-2s?
I hope it does good for you in wet conditions. That approach angle looks steep and probably will be slippery when wet.
This is a very nicely built trailer and will work well in a mostly dry climate with shorter equipment. I had one built in the 80's that was very similar. In fact it was almost exactly the same. I had two issues. One, getting on in wet weather. The bigger issue and the one that caused me to sell it was while the trailer worked fine for short equipment, longer pieces such as a pickup or rubber tired equipment sometimes would reach the top of the ramp section with the front axle but had not reached the balance point to lower the deck. If I took another piece of equipment and pushed the deck down and locked it I still had the same issue backing off. The back axle of the rubber tired equipment would start the tilting action before the front axle got on the tilting section of deck. As I said, great piece for what you are using it for just be aware of it's limits.
I completely understand. Thanks.
With small equipment trailers I always prefer a deck over configuration, just gives more options for securement and placement of equipment. Also makes loading attachments/pallets from the side way easier. Keeps all the goofs from ripping off your fenders as well
Also higher center of gravity
Now climb that smooth deck when it is wet from rain or mud.
I know :) might install traction strips.
That when you use the winch
Great demonstration of the capabilities of theses trailers, good job. Kobota are nice piece of equipement. Very smooth transition. Reuben was a great host 👍
It's hard being around all these cool tractors and not buying one lol
Used tilt deck trailers many times they are so easy to load and unload, plus after your back isn’t killing you from ramps! Really wish I had one but recently got a great deal on a 7 ton with ramps, works good for my landscaping needs. Great video as always sir 👍🏽
exactly the trailer I need. I built a 18 ft 5th wheel with tilt bed in college about 35 years ago to pull behind shoertbed half ton but upgraded thru the years to a 2500hd long bed. Always had ideas about how I wanted my next trailer. I wanted to stay with the 5th wheel but still have the capability for goose neck and wow clicked on check out my new trailer and there is my trailer. Don't really need a trailer that heavy because everything I do is for personal use and don't haul anything over 4 or 5 ton. My current trailer is way to light for my 2500. So I need first sell my trailer. Thanks for the video
I have owned a Texas Pride dump trailer. It was a triple axle and I sold it for what I paid for after using it for two years
I use my 2019 F350 dually to move my kubota Rental Equipment around all the time, I have a big Tex tandem dual gooseneck. Works great, pulls strong, my GVCW is 36,000 lbs. I bought a f350 because I could get 3.55 gears. Works great, truck makes plenty of horsepower, doesn’t need 4.10 or 4.30. I wanted a f450 but there was no choice for gears. I hauled a 20k lbs Telahandler with no problem. These newer pickup trucks at amazing.
So are you saying with your set up truck and trailer you do not need a CDL but what if you're loaded with a tractor? That's considered GVWR gross vehicle weight rating of your truck trailer and cargo combined, will you then be under 26,100? Unless you're planning on driving empty. Because last time I checked if you're even 100 pounds over the 26,100 you then will need a CDL, usdot Numbers and if you're planning to in haul in Texas you're going to need TxDOT numbers regardless.
Hello! The only tractor that we loaded that would push me over the 12k GVWR of the trailer was the Track Loader (last one). Primarily because that is a VERY heavy Track Loader. Even the mini excavator was only around 6,300lbs. The way the trailer is rated, I have about 7k worth of available cargo capacity on public roads. If I had NOT derated the sticker, then I would have had around 15k worth of capacity. So, as long as I do not carry anything heavier than 7K, I'm good. Here is something to think about. My trailer, as spec'd, only weights about 500lbs MORE than a 12k GVWR BUILT trailer. So, I have a trailer designed to carry 8K MORE than it's rated at, but only weighing 500lbs more than a much less capable trailer.
@@BigTruckBigRV true but you could have bought 3 nice 14k bumper pull trailers derated to 12k. Something to think about.
great but still need ramps if you want to load 2 machines on trailer
Great video, and thank you for the clear explanation of why you derate the trailers, looks like it will be a great trailer to work and tow with.
Kid with new trailer, and another kid with new toy, let's do it again 🙂👍
I don't understand why you wouldn't have a powered ram on the deck. You've already got powered legs up front.
The other issue is with the split deck you couldn't load two pieces of equipment. Two of those UTVs would fit but you don't have a way to get the second one on unless you have ramps hidden somewhere?
That trailer is cake! What a great design and build! The mini excavator is just icing on the cake!
I’d like to hear the mans top 10 favorite trailers!
Just a note for folks watching and hauling equipment. If your equipment is turboed always cover the exhaust when exhaust is pointed to the truck. Turbos don’t like spinning backwards.
That’s an awesome trailer. I enjoy your videos. Just wanted to drop a note and remind you to chock your tires while loading equipment like this onto your trailer. Not doing so causes the stresses of the old to apply strain to the parking pin in your transmission. This is more the case with an inexperienced operator making less smooth movements while loading. Again, love the videos, not trying to be a critic, just sharing advice.
Thanks my friend. I always set my parking brake. It just slipped my mind at first, but I did set it for the excavator and the track loader.
I work moving farm and construction equipment in Canada. I am concerned with the hydraulic dampener how do yo load a tractor pulling another piece of equipment? We have a trailer like this with a full hydraulic tilt which i feel safer with you can lower the tilt width a remote when you known everything is on the deck. Another option i add to my. Trailers is bed liner on the decking and all surfaces that can receive stone chips from the truck tires. Vertical tool boxes work better and take less space for tie down chains. Great video
Awesome trailer and great video showing the workings of loading various equipment.
Nice job!!👍
That awesome bi just ordered my diamond c ltx 22’
Diamond C makes great trailers also! Congrats! I'm sure you'll love it.
What can I say ,I want them all. Gotta keep dreaming.
I am curious to know how this trailer is holding up ?
Forgot to Mention that about loading equipment on a tilt bed in the rain or when it is wet 4 wheel drive or not really hard to get traction. Thing of removable expanded metal plates or something similar.
Looks like a nice trailer. I love my Diamond C's though.
Please put emergency break on when loading and unloading stuff from trailers. It’ll save your parking pin.
Brock Knutson He should be using wheel chocks on the trailer , I would have been using them for the big SVL 95 by itself for sure , the fact that he’s not just shows that safety isn’t his strong suit, and he’s still an amateur at this stuff .
very cool demonstration
That’s going to be slick as snot when you get mud on that all steel deck and your tracks.
Wonder about that box on the front of the stationary deck, maybe subject to damage. I like a rugged headboard. But the storage is great.
Ask me about my dump trailer wish list.
You could also partially close the valve on the heavy stuff to slow the rate of drop
i bet it would be hard to load equipment on that trailer with muddy tracks... not that it would be much easier on any other brand or anything... just experience on my end with my cat excavator and muddy tracks climbing on my gooseneck deckover.. I've slid off a couple times crawling up some angle iron on the dovetail... maybe texas pride can weld tome traction bars on it for that... also I'm very interested in how much longer we have to submit a video for the give away trailers.. i need one bad...
Why not purchase a 14k GVW trailer and De-rate it to 12k rather than a 20K trailer? It seems like a tremendous waste of money and you have less cargo capacity on that 20k trailer.
It’s a way to load 20K but be under the radar, cops mostly just read the tags....
@@Sicktrickintuner unless you get weighed.
Then you're in trouble.
Try loading when its wet....different ball game!
On my diamond c trailer I can lock the tilt deck up with the factory installed flow valve i use my trailer for equipment and cars and trucks
That is one big ass track steer.
Yeah it is
A very useful trailer. Terrific development for tilt decks. Great video too.
Nice trailer
You need a set of portable truck scales. Add some foot markers to the deck with weight notes. Does anyone make "Keep in" place goose neck scale ? the only thing I found that was close was the CURT BetterWeigh system.
What if you put something very front heavy on that thing and when you go to back off it doesn’t have enough counter weight in the back to drop? For example a long truck that’s going to take up most of that 17 feet and that’s a lot heavier in the front than the back
JD my friend...u need to chock your tires, reduce the punishment on your transmission (unless you were in neutral with brake set?)
I Set the brake after the second tractor. Slipped my mind initially with all the chaos in filming. Very good point on chocking the tires though! Thanks
It will also wipes out your yoke on your rear end if you don’t set your E brake on the truck
@@richardrasmussen7334 no more than acceleration/deceleration.
Great video .The trailer sure works great . 👍👍😊👏
Awesome toys!!
So why not get a cdl it’s called big truck big rv.
I load my skidloader on tilt bed trailers without tilting the trailer. I just pull onto the tail of the trailer and lift the truck up.
Nice trailer but that deck would just be too slick if there is any moisture at all for my 7500 lb wheeled skid loader.
I've noticed that wood gets even more slick at time. If I did it again, I would have added additional traction bars to the surface. I may end up using a bedlining material in strips.
My only problem I see with your trailer built like it is, is the fact that if you was to load say 2 SXSs or 2 small pieces of equipment you would have to carry a pair of ramps which would be the reason I would have the tilt deck Other than this I really like it
Next up: Spray on bedliner for more traction on the ramp?
I am thinking about doing something like that :)
That would be a good trailer for a track car.
Probably not. I have a similar trailer from Lamar Trailers and they sit pretty high. Youd need ramps to get a standard car up to the deck of the trailer
drop trailers are much much better for a track car. approach angle of this will most likely pull some bumpers off
What you don't think the angle could be modified?
Trailer would have to sit much lower or the tilt portion much longer to get a proper approach angle for a car. I need to use wooden planks to get a car on my trailer. Maybe BTBRV can test his out for us using a car?
I don't even own a single piece of construction equipment. Yet, here I am watching this video. Lol
Call video keep pumping them out can you look and see if they are some of those wheels with handicap accessible doors and ramps already built and can you do a review on a couple companies that have them or will build them
More review of the diesel kobota RTV
How would this do in oregon rain weather . This is all I want in a trailer but the slippery surface is a bit concerning.
Yeah, both wood and painted steel can certainly be slippery on tilt trailers. I would suggest traction bars be welded on.
I'm still trying to find something other than get 10 foot ramps.
I have a 2019 L-2501 with a Backhoe and Box Blade and a 60 Rotary Mower
Problem number One is with any/all rear mounted Implements is when I load My 18 foot trailer and 4 foot ramps with the 3 foot beaver tail is that the tail of the trailer drops and the end of the 4 foot ramps lift up and the implement hooks the end of the ramp
Problem number Two is loading with Backhoe is the lowest point of the Backhoe frame plows down into the dirt 4 or 5 inches for about a foot before it is up onto the Trailer.
I was hoping to learn if there is a tilt trailer that has a shallow angle that would allow driving onto the trailer and so the Implements do not hit the ground
Still looking, but My probable long term solution will making longer ramps so I no longer drag anything while loading onto the trailer
Ken in Florida
I do like this trailer, I'm getting too old to keep messing with under-belly ramps. The problem is Texas Pride Trailer locations, or is it my location. Looks like Selmer TN is the closest to Detroit for me but I'm not sure I am willing to invest in the round trip drive and then, what if I need warranty work.
If my research is correct, they have generally had a local mechanic do warranty repairs and they reimburse the owner. But you'll have to ask them. I know that most people are very satisfied with their warranty care.
Full tilt or no tilt. Can’t load 2 machines
Trailer probably weighs 3 tons so can only put about what 3 1/2 to 4 tons on it.
You keep saying RATED at 12,000 lb. you should be saying licensed. The trailer has not changed, it just has a lower weight tag.
Beautiful trailer set up! Two things that caught my eye though, one no mud flaps and lic plate is hidden way underneath the trailer. Cops will get you always for "Obscured" plates. Overall, love your trailer.
Flaps not needed, 15 years with my Plat in same location, D.O.T. never ticketed me for it.
Are you able to load a cclb truck? And when unloading would you be able to back the truck up far enough to tilt the trailer? I ended up with a full deck power tilt for that reason. Just curious if it’d work or not.
I might test it. The wheel base of truck would fit, but transferring the center of gravity far enough back to tilt down would potentially be an issue.
@@BigTruckBigRV a gas truck might be problematic but a diesel one should be all right. The coolest thing to test this trailer would be a 450 on top no doubts
Awesome channel thank you
Good video, just curious why you don’t go get your CDL’s? I got mine even though I don’t “work” with my truck.
Man, I love your toys! Thanks for the vid.
I was nervous when I saw the SVL get on top of the fender! I thought it would be crushed but it looks like that fender is really heavy duty. I didn’t see no damage to it. Amazed.
Is the GVWR posted on a sticker for the truck?
Have you ever tried it in winter? Just curious wondering if it was too slick to get a bobcat loaded on it?
I would definitely opt for additional traction bars be welded to the surface if snow or ice were a concern here.
I have a lot to learn about weights and rating. I'm looking at eventually getting into hot shot driving and getting my cdl, I don't know anything about gvwr or gvcr, do you have any videos explaining all of this?
Looks like it needs some work. How do you mount the wench.
I thought you were going to show how to position the equipment for balancing the load on the trailer and truck for safe towing?
Denden 501 whatever is 10% of the load
Of 20 % if your truck can handle the weight.
If you don’t know get a scale for your ball and get a good feeling of the weight transfer.
Any item approaching 14,000 lbs. is going to OVERLOAD that single Hydraulic cylinder ! I would have a pump installed as well as Hyd. jacks with 2 batt's with positive pulldown as that trailer is fully capable of hauling up to 17,000 lbs as in most backhoes !
You should demonstrate how heavy duty the fenders are.
I just may do that
@@BigTruckBigRV according to the specs of my Load Trail gooseneck car hauler, my fenders will hold up to 10k lbs. I got the 102" wide with drive over fenders as well.
Thats sweet
That truck is more than 14,000 lbs. GVWR for a gooseneck hitch.
Interesting because chevy started showing the fifth-wheel gooseneck GVWR at 17,000 on the door sticker. Which would put me down to 9k for trailer to stay at 26k lbs!?
I have been thinking about building another 5th wheel trailer then I seen you trailer. Love your design. So If I may ask what it cost you to build not including the winch. Again I love the way you designed it
$15k with the winch, so about $13k without
@@BigTruckBigRV i would like to buy one still building this trailer?
Nice video.. One thing that you need to remember. You don't need a CDL requirement for your setup. But you need to keep in mind is having a DOT Medical card with you. Using the truck solely personal use..absolutely no money involved EVER NEVER.. The Medical card is 10k and over.
That deck need some traction steps on it, I bet its super slippery in the rain.
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Nice trailer. I was expecting all the equipment to slip on the metal floor more than it did
If it’s wet or muddy he will have to park the truck on a steep hill to load going down hill. That excavator will just slide off if not. I’ve loaded a rock wheel many times like that in the rain and it’s scary.
Don't think de-rating a trailer will help get around having a CDL. If the trailer has a GVW of 10,001 lbs. and used commercially, you will need a Class A CDL. Also, if your load weighs over the rating of the trailer, you are over weight. Fine
What does the trailer weigh empty? You cannot legally carry over 12k (trailer weight included) since it's derated to 12k. That trailer is 4k+ empty, leaving about 8k for your carrying capacity
Yep, I totally mentioned this at least 10 times throughout videos
your F450 is rated for up to 34,000 lb for gooseneck towing.
What type of work do you do. That’s a nice trailer what do use haul with it
Good morning! I just have one question, What is the hydraulic cylinder for? If you can stand on it and when you drive up on it it tilts.
It slows the tilting process considerably. Makes it much smoother and safer. You can hear Ruben's comments about it at the end.
Thank you. I understand now.
Very nice trailer, the trailer manufacturer needs to rethink their deck angle it's way too steep if you have tractors with attachments they will drag.
Unfortunately you can never haul that skidsteer on that trailer because you do you rated
Because you de rated the trailer
Well, if I didn't get this trailer related I would have purchased a 12k GVWR trailer, which also wouldn't have been able to haul that track steer on public roads. Fortunately I can still tow it off highway AND I have a severely overbuilt trailer for what it can haul.
That trailer is nice but for a 20k it’s way too short , it can carry way more than you can fit on it .For 99.9% of the people ,de rating a trailer by as much as you did makes no financial or common sense . It’s empty weight is so much that its payload is greatly reduced at its artificially low DOT cheating GVWR. A basic 14-16000 GVWR unit derated to 12000 would have made a lot more sense , cost less have more legal payload , and still give you a large margin of safety .
The overbuilt trailer that's been dereated sounds nice for having a heavy durable trailer but the added weight of the trailer detracts from the payload capacity, while staying under 26000 lbs. So there's a price paid in less payload with the heaver trailer that's been derated.
True. There are indeed trade offs when derating a trailer. The trailer is about 500lbs heavier than a lighter built trailer would have been.
That's one silly trailer design, only on piece of equipment it can hold? does it include ramps for something else to be driven up.
you are gonna run two pieces of equiptment on a 23ft trailer?mkay
@@gregsall5872 2 small excavators or 1 excavator 1 dumptruck is pretty common here
11,574 on that 95. Not 5 tons. And with that big boy in it your probably pushing 12k!
very nice trailer but what about if you want to load 2 skidsteers. how would you load the 2nd
Two skidsteers would go well over the capacity of this trailer. Skid steers generally weight around 8k-12k lbs. This trailer has a 7k capacity or a 14.5k capacity of not derated. If you want something larger you would need to get a longer power tilt deck trailer.
84" between fenders? How much room left over between the fenders with the skidsteer?
Why did you buy trailer. Do you move alot equipment.
No so much motorized equipment. More emergency relief supplies, small car, hardware/lumber as well as the occasional 6k lb small backhoe.
Is these still being built like this? Cost?
What are your securment tie down locations rated for?
I'll stick with a traditional style trailer with ramps lol
Nothing wrong with those either.
How would you fit two pieces of equipment with the flat part not tilting
@@lancethomas4566 I wouldn't try to load 2 pieces of equipment on a 23ft trailer.
Big Truck Big RV two lawnmowers?
Agreed ! You lose a lot of payload and rigidity with these units not to mention the way higher initial cost.
I can appreciate equipment being over built, but I'm struggling to understand your de-rating logic beyond that. De-rating your 20k trailer, which weighs roughly 6k, to 12k leaves you a payload of 6k. Correct me if I'm wrong. What do you feel is your max payload with your trailer is now after de-rating?
How much did you paid for this trailer?
But technically now with the trailer being 12,000 pounds and the trailer roughly weighing about 6000 pounds wind payload capacity technically be 6000 pounds roughly give or take If DOT was to pull you over and see that it is now a 12,000 pound trailer? Even though it is built for 20,000 pounds
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Why don't you just get your cdl? Its 150 bucks. Also, you need a cdl if your at 26,001 lbs or greater regardless of for profit. For commerce you need your fed med card as well as cdl