Adam Nolly Getgood: Full Drum Mix with stock Logic plug-ins
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- Опубликовано: 10 фев 2025
- Next up in this series Nolly shows you can get an amazing mix using just the stock plug-ins found in Logic and GGD Modern & Massive.
GGD Modern & Massive available now - www.getgooddrums.com
00:00 Intro
00:39 Working mix
01:13 Drum samples
02:27 Master bus (Top-down mixing)
08:20 Solo’d drum track
09:53 Parallel compression bus
11:11 Reverb bus
11:52 Room mics
12:34 Close mics
12:37 Kick
15:13 Snare
21:02 Overheads
21:42 Mono room
22:18 Close room
23:26 Far room
24:38 Levels
25:17 Overhead importance
25:36 Rest of the mix
25:43 Bass
27:14 Guitars
28:39 Fin
Terry Crews thanks man
thanks Terry Crews
i love you terry crews. now sing that vanessa carlton song
Thanks Terry Crews!
Making this tutorial free is a super altruistic move, thank you GGD!
I think they just want us to get on their level lol
@@samb2217 like they're tired of our bad mixes haha
This is amazing - I've had so much more time in lockdown to finally attempt to get my head around mixing and the fact that this video uses the stock plugins for the DAW that I've chosen is outstanding. So many great producers forget that poor old average Joe can't necessarily afford the array of expensive plugins that many of them use, so thank you - this is a great video and I think it is going to help me massively.
Thanks so much, Nolly! I don't really know what I'm doing when it comes to mixing and I don't want to feel like I have to buy all the plugins just to follow along with tutorials. I'm so glad you made this so I can begin to apply these concepts to software I already have!
I have NEVER learned so much from a single RUclips production tutorial as I did from this. Thank you!!
I'm soooo glad someone of your expertise and notoriety showed folks what you can do with Logic plugins right out the box. I've been a Logic user since around '05 and there are many people that just don't have a clue of their flexibility and power. They should not be overlooked...and they're only getting better. Bravo sir!
Thank you for posting this! I've been loving Modern and Massive so far, nice to see a sound built up bare bones like this.
My mixes are legit now thanks to your videos man. Such a killer drum sound you came up with here using such basic plugins. It truly does show that it's all in how you use these basic tools, not how expensive your plugin selection is. I also like that you used silver verb here! I used to use it on my snare verb bus back when I ran logic express 9 haha (very privative and frustrating to mix with I tell ya...). but yeah, silver verb...oldschool, but it does sound awesome for snare. Once again you are a life saver man. You're doing future mixing engineers a huge service by sharing your knowledge.
This is exactly what I needed after buying Modern and Massive. Finally really impressed with the sound and also learned a lot about mixing. Thank you very much!
this is a great example of the right kind of targeted tutorial - direct, to the point, and actually very nice example plays! Thanks!
Thanks for taking the time to do this Noll’s, appreciate you!!!! This riff is FIRE!!!
That guitar chord pattern is so simple yet sounds so beautiful
Holy sweet fancy Moses! This has made a huge difference in my drum mixing- great jumping off points for me to learn from, and my current mix is utterly transformed- THANK YOU!!!
Ahhh! Thank you so much for doing it with Modern and Massive!
The Logic compressor is just amazing. That in and of itself could sell for the entire price of logic itself.
Thank you so much, so well explained and understandable. When I build this I'm not just copying but really understanding and learning.
this video is amazing, kinda insane how much you can learn from it
I always learn something from your videos man, thank you for doing these. I wouldn't be where I am today in mixing without your videos over the last few years
Btw, I miss the old Silververb and the old Garageband reverbs, they were so nice!
That quad-tracked guitars sound absolombely great!
Absolombeloutely!
yeah, absolomb
This video is a huge help to me, thanks Nolly. I've never been a drummer and didn't have a clue what I was doing when programming drums for my EDM alias. Now I feel I have some understanding and will be checking out Invasion for sure.
Many thanks for this. Gave me a new insight into top down mixing and these principles were applied to my current mix and it's already sounding way more polished. Most of all the sub of the kick is way more apparent after having sorted the mix buss compression and EQ.
Cheers man!
This is the idea of perfect product placement. Thank you so much nolly
I cannot thank you enough for this. Very well explained. I am more familiar with logics built in plugins. Now that I have the fundamental understanding of how to use this method I am going to translate it to my new slate plugins. Very helpful! Thank you again.
Sounds awesome, loving the guitar sounds..
Extremely helpful, Nolly! Watched this so many times and will finally start to apply these tips! Thanks a bunch!
great video. the advice on leveling is what i needed to hear
Thank you for sharing Nolly! Big fan here from Malaysia!
Hey great video, Nolly! Really helpful - thanks for the great info!
This is so sick! Thanks for doing vids like these 🤙🏽
More of these please!
Thanks Nolly! This helps a lot and I really appreciate this.
Farr this is good stuff. You deserve a buck or two for this one.
This was so good. Thank you!
Finna make some slappin ish now, thank you Grandmaster Nolly!!!
I NEEDED this video. THANKS. I second the comment about using stock GTR amps
I'm a little late to the party but I'd like to know where did he have the bass and guitars routed to in order to mix this all together? I see that he sends the drums to the parallel and reverb buses, so does he send the guitars and bass to just the reverb channel?
Hey if you want to recreate Nolly’s mix bus compression with logic’s default compressor, go to side chain tab, that’s where you can adjust sidechain hpf, so compressor triggers more on snare than everything else, you can also change from rms mode to peak, which will also help focusing the snare transient
Please do another full drum mix tuttorial with the Invasion kit! We deserve it!!
Yes!
Awesome videos as always, but I challenge you to create a stock guitar tone!
I can get one decent guitar tone out of Logic:
- Amp: brown head, modern british 4x12 cab and dynamic 57 mic
- Pedalboard: deluxe dragon overdrive (used as a boost - drive at zero, level at max) and graphic EQ to roll off low end
- Noise gate
@@lewisbulled6764 this works pretty alright; used it as my high gain tone for a while before I got something better definitely good for what it is!
Everything is just awesome! 👍
Another big chunky like goes to Nolly!
What would be sick, is if we could download this template on the GGD site or here!
Thanks man, useful stuff. I've always mixed with EQ and Limiter on the master i just assumed that was right thing to do lol
"At least good enough for demo purposes" he says...
*pulls up my own demo*
mine=crap²
*crying on inside* 😭
You didn’t go over the compressor settings for the far room and its killing me
And now one for Reaper ;)
Thanks ! i'd really like to see an in depth look at your mastering bus that would be very useful as there's not a lot of people doing that on youtube
amazing video
Nolly, this is so helpful for a beginner like me get started mixing drums. Plan to channel Satan with your the invasion kit!
Ah this was helpful. I dont have modern massive. But I have halpern. This has probably just highlighted to me my drum mix issues are in my snare room and removing some of the wooody ness in the snare top.
I might also get monder massive as tbh the lower tuned snares and toms are more in line with m genre.
Nolly just wanted to say that every tiny detail you mentioned in this video works fucking wonders, fucking wonders man... thank you ENDLESSLY, i use all your tips on my mixes. i use Modern & Massive as well
Thanks Nolly as always great stuff, a little question: do you remove these 3 plugins on your master bus before exporting your track for real mastering post mix? Or just let them and then the guys after you deal with it?
THANK YOU FOR THIS! :)
Thanks for this. Super comprehensive run down, which is perfect for me - I have extremely little knowledge on this stuff and this helps me copy your process to have as a starting point while also getting an understanding of why you're doing these things. I have run into some problems though...
- I'd like to know what velocity is on those snare hits. I've used some grooves from Rudi's groove pack, which have really high velocity on a lot of the snares. I'm getting some really annoying resonance after applying these settings. I'm wondering if the overall velocity is just too intense or if I've done something wrong along the way.
- I'm also hearing what sounds like the bottom of the snare come through a bit too much, even though I've turned it down more than Nolly.
- I've copied the mix levels and I'm finding a lot of the ambiance is too loud. I can adjust the room mic levels of course, but I don't understand why it sounds different to the video above when the settings are copied.
Any help from Nolly or anyone else would be greatly appreciated! Thanks.
I should point out that I'm running Ableton but I assume the differences in the plugins wouldn't make too much of a difference.
Hey man! What is the "Far Room" compression settings here? That part somehow got edited out!
Learned so much by recreating this! Thanks a lot anyway.. even if you don't see this.
THANK U
you saved my drum mix lmao
Nolly you should've used the Tape Delay plugin to get the tape saturation on the snare!
Very useful. Thanks!
Thanks so much for this :)
Really wished this was done with free plugs as i don't use mac and can't really replicate it,hope you'll do another with your chosen plugs or some truly free ones! Thanks anyway, decent tutorial!
I'd like a tutorial on how to multitrack all the drums into their own individual tracks in the DAW
After you made the multi-output tracks for the plugin you have to have all of them selected then hit Cmd+Ctrl+'B'
They have videos for quite a few DAWs. Just search ggd multi out (insert DAW name here). I just did this today
A couple of silly questions please:
1. Why did you choose bus 3, with sends at 2 and 4 vs, bus 2 and sends on 3 and 4 or sends on 2 and 3 and bus 4?
2. What do you reserve for bus 1?
3. Why the compression on overall master, parallel, and then again on some individual tracks?
Sorry for the newb questions. Musician my whole life, but new to mixing and just trying to learn. Thanks!
I really wish I would have bought this when it was on sale from Native Instruments last week. Was left in my cart and then I got on a plane and forgot to submit my order. :-(
Oof... I picked it up during that same sale, diggin' it but I still have a strong preference for the Halpern kit.
So I'm not sure what in doing wrong but the drums sound fantastic on my end. However since you added the limiter compressor and eq on the output stereo out channel, when un muting my guitars they sounds super choppy and sounds like they are clipping. I have them at -4db and no where near peaking please help!! Bass and Drums are fine but once guitars come in it doesn't sound right at all
What headroom do you allow going into the master bus??
Thanks
I recreated the exact channel EQ settings Nolly is showing here to save as a logic template, but the graphic looks different than his...not sure what I am missing!
template download would be great
can you do a Mapping out Video For the Drums i Mapped mine a little different but i wanna be able too achieve that type of drum if you dont mind.
Building a session template immediately
Far Room Compressor settings? It's the only part missing.
Nolly be like "Who the fuck is Windows"
Can I do this kind of editing of the drums using the free Kontakt player? I can’t seem to be able to pull up the individual EQ for each individual drum - cheers
super!!
i have a few questions, first one is how did you set up the kit I'm looking at all the faders for the kit then up top im only seeing only one track. how is that? second question how hard is the velocity hitting for everything (roughly) and them toms are wonderful n super full how did they get to that state.
I wish to see Vintage, jazz and indie rock drum kits in the future.
Seriously, where does one start to make videos like this plus have the audio quality that he has in the video?? What software options out there can produce this? New in the game, looking to do it too.
why was makeup gain applied on the mix bus compressor here, but never in any of the other mixing tutorials?
Holly, I assume the far room track for snare was sampled with just the snare. What do you recommend for tracking a real kit, to not have the room mics blaster with cymbals? I always seem to have more cymbals than snare in my room mics. Low pass them? Different mic technique?
Guys, I’m really struggling with velocities. Any help is appreciated. I’ve followed this and it sounds nothing like it
Is it possible to set up m&m on multiple devices?
music youtube need more of this 😂
Do this with Reaper as well, please
I second that
where i can get the template?
Is there a logic template available?
I don't inderstand, how can i make rimshot? What should i do?
Now the question everyone wants to ask : can we get this template pleeeeeeeease ???
mandubien did you get the template?
hello, did you have the template?
hey man. I just glanced at you levels in the master. It was about -1.7 db. Is that ideal for a mix
but he has a stereo out bus, it's not on the master bus I'm confused
Wait you’re using stock logic plugs for the guitar and bass tones too? Or does that just apply to drum processing?
Nick K only drums and bass - guitars were recorded through a real 5150 amp, he just used the stock logic EQ to process them
I didn't hear why the low-pass had to be lower and what it changed, can anyone explain? (Ref: 28:00 )
Lowering the low pass cutoff just made the guitars a bit less bright. Cut out a bit more of the harshness that would get in the way of a vocal, if there was one, and also gave room for the cymbals to breathe without having to fight high end in the guitars.
@@justinsmithmusic This makes sense but he changed it without context. And isolated I heard no difference between the low pass settings.
But now that I listen more closely, it's a very subtle change, a bit tighter and a bit more sense of where they are perhaps?
Sproeikoei Sproeikoei Exactly. Subtle, but just puts them a bit more into the space they shine in. No hard and fast rules about low passing guitars. For what it’s worth, I enjoy jumping to 8-9k with the filter and then fine tuning up or down depending on the tone and other instrumentation/production that needs a place. If there’s a ton of extra stuff in the production sitting over the guitars, you can go all the way down to 6k and gain a good bit of room, if needed.
Hey man, i want to replace all my drums with ggd modern and massive which were previously programmed using sd2 but the mapping is all different. How can i make it same as sd2
I created 2 plug in tracks and just compared both and mapped ggd to sp2. Its a pain in the ass but you can save the map once it's done.
It is possible to get the template ?
I love you.
On my "kick" channel that kontakt is actually on, I can still hear the entire kit pretty clearly and it's mudding up the drum mix. Does anyone know why that might be?
output needs to be multiout adv in the app
I've replicated the settings with stock and 3rd party plugins on Reaper and I'm nowhere near the tones showcased here. What can it be? The velocities? I'm clueless and sad.
The plugins in logic have other sound/color and quality. You can replicate the settings but if its not the same compressor plugin, EQ plugin, etc, it will sound totally different (even in terms of quality, can sound worse, better or equal, usually worse since he did the settings for his plugins specifically)
@@Pablo7D That's what I imagined. A reaper walkthrough like this would probably be great as well considering it's a ver accessible DAW
How did you make the separate drum outputs visible on your mixer?
Oscar Manners when you create the track, make sure it’s set to multi-timbral, there you can tell it how many parts you need. Then when your mixer is up (X by default), there’s a plus sign near the bottom of the fader. Click it multiple times to add those extra faders.
can anyone tell me how he gets this amaizing guitar tone ?
Prashurya Goswami 1. He’s a genius. 2. Expensive equipment.
But he could probably make a rubber band sound massive!
23:47 Cymbals Levels
Whenever I load modern and massive in FL Studio it clips to no end so I have to decrease the decibels so it sounds nothing like this. Does anyone have any help
I dont know if you fixed this by now or not but keep in mind even with a dry mix his faders are down a bit. It loads loud till you just re balance it. What i do is keep the faders at unison and bring everything down with the drum BUS till nothing is clipping, then start moving things to balance the mix to your liking and then start processing. If you just mix right off the bat yeah its way too loud! Then i just bring the drum BUS back up to where its loud enough but not clipping. Just what helped me :) Hope you figured it out if this doesn't help haha
Anyone knows which snare Velocity he hits?