That’s really cool, light, and looks well built but the prop looks like it could stand to be a little bigger, that might help a little with climb rate and try a few different gear reductions
Miniature power for miniature people! There are RC planes using 40 cc engines. There seems to be a bit of breeze and perhaps even some slope lift. All in all, entertaining, but a bit of a stunt. Now 80cc motorized bike kit engines are only about $120 on ebay, maybe that would be more viable. Still its for smaller people. Stop dissing it and give it the thumbs up it deserves!
Those 80cc engines you get on eBay are actually 66cc originally 2.5-3hp standard would make less power than the blata b1 engine there using in this video also the eBay engine suffers from an unbalanced crankshaft and a cylinder made of cheese there are ways to fix these issues but I’d imagine it’s not a viable option for running a para motor I’ve had my eBay engine running for 16000miles they are very problematic
Nice little engine.Perfect for a light pilot who wants to fly to the thermals instead of climbing a mountain first! Underpowered? It lifted him from the ground did'nt it?
MrBmh345 Yes it lifted him from the ground but that alone desn't prove it's underpowered. Having barely enough power to fly will not provide a safety margin for unexpected situations.
+corisco tupi Unexpected situations such as engine failure? All paramotors should be flown as if they were underpowered because the next second they might be. This isn't less safe than an other motor. It has different limitations when everything works but when you throw reliability into the mix a smart pilot will make pretty much the same flying choices as he would with a bigger motor.
+p39483 Who said engine failure? You ASSUMED that, it wasn't what I said. A unexpected situation may be, for instance, a wind gust from the wrong direction at low altitude. A stronger motor will help you fly out of it.
+corisco tupi A smart pilot will not be screwed into the ground by a gust because he's already treating his engine as a luxury. If he has engine-out options then he has options for gusts, even with marginal power. He's high enough to turn upwind and land on suitable terrain while clearing all rotor and obstacles plus a safety margin. This altitude begins at 0, on the takeoff surface, since landing ahead should be retained as an option until other options become available.
+corisco tupi It's always compromises between lightness/power/structural strength/price. For a light pilot with an efficient wing who flies it like he is unpowered it would be nice to be able to get off the ground, and have some help when the lift is gone. He would then be better off than without a motor. For a small girl or a young, light pilot, it would be perfect in many ways. 11 kg is incredibly light, and also the motor will have very little torque. High torque can be very dangerous for light and unexperienced pilots. On the other side, light machines tend to be very fragile. I guess one little fall could take out the prop and destroy the frame. Also very little protection for the pilot. For my own sake i have a small fleet of 200cc engines, i am quite heavy, and often fly a reflex wing. And i love POWER! I would newer be able to get of the ground with that 40cc engine! But for some that 40cc is just right! I see they now have bored them up to 50cc, that would give them some extra spunk! :D
I love the weight, but I have a radio control paramotor that weighs 13lb has roughly same size of engine(33cc). I thought my rc paramotor was underpowered! Can't imagine flying with that little power.
Camera man don't zoom in all the time, the viewer has no perspective as to height etc. Zoom out is better to see the speed, the terrain etc zoom in only once in a while.
But the guy lfts off and gets sky parked lust feet off the ground. Camera man just trying to make it look like he has so much speed though the engine sound getting louder gives it away that he is actually getting pushed backwards by the light wind.
I am 5.9 and 15 stone I use the same size motor and fly in the uk on summer evenings lifting from level ground with no problem. If your not flying a homemade unit then you are ill qualified to comment.
I was going to accept your implied rebuke...But, very little information is available for low powered paramotoring. You implied that your were flying homemade, but haven't posted anything about it. Assuming a flight weight of 250 lb/114 kg, your power loading might be 40 lb per horsepower... that's not believable. Even if you managed to get 10 hp out of your engine, that's very marginal. You need to prove you are qualified to criticize... Or did you scare yourself and stop flying?
*+SuperYellowsubmarin* You can't just put a larger prop on a smaller engine and hope it will have more thrust, it doesn't work this way. Prop selection is a function of motor power and RPM as well as the vehicle's airspeed and flight characteristics. One thing you could do to fit a larger prop is use gear reduction, but the end result still has to match the intended speed, acceleration, etc. And you could only extract so much power from an engine, there is no magic.
corisco tupi Actually propeller thrust is a function of diameter and power… T=(P*d)^(2/3) the diameter is limited only by the speed of sound at the tip of the propeller. www.mh-aerotools.de/airfoils/prpstati.htm
pytoche ...Which agrees with what I said earlier: "You can't just put a larger prop on a smaller engine and hope it will have more thrust, it doesn't work this way." I had said that in reply to *+SuperYellowsubmarin* who asserted "That propeller is waayyyyy too small ! If you have a small engine, the first thing to do is to compensate with a large diameter prop to increase propulsive efficiency", which is not correct. If you simply fit a larger prop onto a small engine with no reduction gearing, you will overload the engine.
+corisco tupi There are other factors. For example the width of the prop has considerable impact on the power needed. See the Eggmotor 50 cc experiments. These were big guys and couldn't make a viable PPG with that small a motor. They did find that a large(thin) prop could be driven with a 5:1 ratio and an 50 cc engine tuned up to about 6 hp. Small engines need higher rpm's, so 2-3:1 isn't enough. Half the world doesn't need 20 hp. They aren't as big as Europeans and Americans. The cost of motors seems to follow a cube law, so smaller means significant savings. Wings can also be optimized for lower speed and drag.
+Miner4aheartofgold how do you overload anything? doesnt that just mean it was designed to run for a shorter period of time between overhauls? 1:1 horsepower to cc is accomplished with many cc displacements every day of the week you know. many may be rebuilt every time. but This one one should last awhile. lol
That wing looks pretty big. No way you could fly a small wing, let alone do a forward launch, especially if you are of normal weight >180 lbs. May be ok in the right conditions for a small person. Underpowered paramotors can be dangerous though!
+Ana Carrillo A few generations back the average male height was 5'6", now the world average is 5'9" with first world countries bringing up that average. There are a lot of fit 180lb+ people nowadays.
That propeller is waayyyyy too small ! If you have a small engine, the first thing to do is to compensate with a large diameter prop to increase propulsive efficiency !
why would you even put a 40cc engine on something that flies with that kind of weight. 40cc engines are trash even on little pocket rockets for kids. i wouldn't even call that flight. thats fucking hovering....... obviously no care for his wellbeing lmaoo
The fact that it works doesn't mean that it couldn't work better ...
That’s really cool, light, and looks well built but the prop looks like it could stand to be a little bigger, that might help a little with climb rate and try a few different gear reductions
Miniature power for miniature people! There are RC planes using 40 cc engines.
There seems to be a bit of breeze and perhaps even some slope lift.
All in all, entertaining, but a bit of a stunt. Now 80cc motorized bike kit engines are
only about $120 on ebay, maybe that would be more viable. Still its for smaller people. Stop dissing it and give it the thumbs up it deserves!
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Yep, it's definitely made for midgets. The motor weighs 11 kg and there were 2 people helping the tiny pilot to get up. LOL.
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Those 80cc engines you get on eBay are actually 66cc originally 2.5-3hp standard would make less power than the blata b1 engine there using in this video also the eBay engine suffers from an unbalanced crankshaft and a cylinder made of cheese there are ways to fix these issues but I’d imagine it’s not a viable option for running a para motor I’ve had my eBay engine running for 16000miles they are very problematic
Wow! I didn't think he would launch!
Superb ! Now everyone can fly .
😂
100 cc yamaha rx100 engine is not performance but this is small engin 40cc how is impasibil. Share engine?
Serious 40 cc? What kg? Thrust?
Is it polini 911?
Ele da quantos kg de empucho
Very cool! What is the reduction ratio?
2-1 it’s a blata b1 engine with a minimoto gearbox
Hola me guste se para motor por el peso que es muy liviano donde la puedo Adquirir
Great.specification please? :)
Do you even climb, bro?
Whats the weight of pilot ???
Nice ! For a 45 kg pilot LOL!
Nice little engine.Perfect for a light pilot who wants to fly to the thermals instead of climbing a mountain first! Underpowered? It lifted him from the ground did'nt it?
MrBmh345 Yes it lifted him from the ground but that alone desn't prove it's underpowered. Having barely enough power to fly will not provide a safety margin for unexpected situations.
+corisco tupi Unexpected situations such as engine failure? All paramotors should be flown as if they were underpowered because the next second they might be. This isn't less safe than an other motor. It has different limitations when everything works but when you throw reliability into the mix a smart pilot will make pretty much the same flying choices as he would with a bigger motor.
+p39483 Who said engine failure? You ASSUMED that, it wasn't what I said. A unexpected situation may be, for instance, a wind gust from the wrong direction at low altitude. A stronger motor will help you fly out of it.
+corisco tupi A smart pilot will not be screwed into the ground by a gust because he's already treating his engine as a luxury. If he has engine-out options then he has options for gusts, even with marginal power. He's high enough to turn upwind and land on suitable terrain while clearing all rotor and obstacles plus a safety margin. This altitude begins at 0, on the takeoff surface, since landing ahead should be retained as an option until other options become available.
+corisco tupi It's always compromises between lightness/power/structural strength/price. For a light pilot with an efficient wing who flies it like he is unpowered it would be nice to be able to get off the ground, and have some help when the lift is gone. He would then be better off than without a motor. For a small girl or a young, light pilot, it would be perfect in many ways. 11 kg is incredibly light, and also the motor will have very little torque. High torque can be very dangerous for light and unexperienced pilots. On the other side, light machines tend to be very fragile. I guess one little fall could take out the prop and destroy the frame. Also very little protection for the pilot. For my own sake i have a small fleet of 200cc engines, i am quite heavy, and often fly a reflex wing. And i love POWER! I would newer be able to get of the ground with that 40cc engine! But for some that 40cc is just right! I see they now have bored them up to 50cc, that would give them some extra spunk! :D
With the wind, the take off is very difficult... I don't imagine without wind !!!! Impossible !
yes but if you are 16 stone like me i will not get off the ground can anyone tell me where you can get a paramotor that is low price . in the uk
Blata B1 engine. From mini motobike.
So does it have a water pump or is that radiator a thermo flow setup?
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Full throttle all the time.
helo admin.. this engine take from?
400cc or 40cc ???
Wow it even has a reverse
rofl
From the looks of it he’s using a 39.5cc blata b1 engine
40cc ?? Zanella 50cc funcionaria ??🤔
way, way under powered Brother. Dont do that if you dont have any vind at all, nor in dangeress situations....:) Nice video, thank you for sharing...
I want to about it would u like to help
Through experimentation comes the truth
NICE
I guess it's nice to have that 20 mile-an-hour Breeze as well to help you get off the ground and still barely climb. LOL what a joke
What is pilot´s weight?
How much horse power? 10?
Otie Brown 2
This seems to have a reduction gear and Wather cooled.. Hmmm
I wonder what kind of engine it is..
Good, can we parchage it
40cc ?,guess 20-25kg thrust, enough for level flight .
80cc .... 👌
40 cc ?... 🤔🤔
A petrol powered lawn mower can be bought for about £85.00 . Why are paramotor engines and kit more than £3,000 to buy.?
Because a pushmower engine is 2~5HP and paramotor engines are 15-30HP at the same or smaller size.
40cc . ?...rpm
please price of this ?
I love the weight, but I have a radio control paramotor that weighs 13lb has roughly same size of engine(33cc). I thought my rc paramotor was underpowered! Can't imagine flying with that little power.
Cc dosent really matter that much because sometime 120 cc cannot produce 2 bhp but 80 cc produces 14 bhp
I m a 50 kg person so its perfect for me
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very
fantastic.I wish have one .
the little motor that could
sorry but the lack of power is dangerous. he barely had enough speed to generate lift. light is good but not at the expense of power.
I wouldn't go under an 80cc. That would be okay for a little kid or a radio controlled something
Camera man don't zoom in all the time, the viewer has no perspective as to height etc. Zoom out is better to see the speed, the terrain etc zoom in only once in a while.
But the guy lfts off and gets sky parked lust feet off the ground. Camera man just trying to make it look like he has so much speed though the engine sound getting louder gives it away that he is actually getting pushed backwards by the light wind.
Preciza por no mercado facilitará a compra
I don't care how small that this person is, this engine is suffering for Power....
Onde foi gravado esse video ?
I am 5.9 and 15 stone I use the same size motor and fly in the uk on summer evenings lifting from level ground with no problem. If your not flying a homemade unit then you are ill qualified to comment.
I was going to accept your implied rebuke...But, very little information is available for low powered paramotoring. You implied that your were flying homemade, but haven't posted anything about it. Assuming a flight weight of 250 lb/114 kg, your power loading might be 40 lb per horsepower... that's not believable. Even if you managed to get 10 hp out of your engine, that's very marginal. You need to prove you are qualified to criticize...
Or did you scare yourself and stop flying?
Son todos locos
11 kg, amazing
Sai to make a 3 cylinder that’s heaps more power!
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Where do I get the motor?
The address is in the comments. Read? www.angelfly.gr
Blata pocket bike engine
Where can i buy the tiny prop?
hobby king or ebay, I use similar one on my r1/3 scale rc
Might as well be in free flight. Engine is waaaaaaay under-powered!
I agree !!! It looks like it will go on a stall !!
Jeff Driedger
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*+SuperYellowsubmarin* You can't just put a larger prop on a smaller engine and hope it will have more thrust, it doesn't work this way. Prop selection is a function of motor power and RPM as well as the vehicle's airspeed and flight characteristics. One thing you could do to fit a larger prop is use gear reduction, but the end result still has to match the intended speed, acceleration, etc. And you could only extract so much power from an engine, there is no magic.
corisco tupi Actually propeller thrust is a function of diameter and power…
T=(P*d)^(2/3)
the diameter is limited only by the speed of sound at the tip of the propeller.
www.mh-aerotools.de/airfoils/prpstati.htm
pytoche ...Which agrees with what I said earlier: "You can't just put a larger prop on a smaller engine and hope it will have more thrust, it doesn't work this way." I had said that in reply to *+SuperYellowsubmarin* who asserted "That propeller is waayyyyy too small ! If you have a small engine, the first thing to do is to compensate with a large diameter prop to increase propulsive efficiency", which is not correct. If you simply fit a larger prop onto a small engine with no reduction gearing, you will overload the engine.
+corisco tupi There are other factors. For example the width of the prop has considerable impact on the power needed. See the Eggmotor 50 cc experiments. These were big guys and couldn't make a viable PPG with that small a motor. They did find that a large(thin) prop could be driven with a 5:1 ratio and an 50 cc engine tuned up to about 6 hp. Small engines need higher rpm's, so 2-3:1 isn't enough.
Half the world doesn't need 20 hp. They aren't as big as Europeans and Americans. The cost of motors seems to follow a cube law, so smaller means significant savings. Wings can also be optimized for lower speed and drag.
Miner4aheartofgold Of course. I just replied to a simplistic approach by someone here, who reduced the problem to fitting a larger-diameter prop.
+Miner4aheartofgold
how do you overload anything?
doesnt that just mean it was designed to run for a shorter period of time between overhauls? 1:1 horsepower to cc is accomplished with many cc displacements every day of the week you know. many may be rebuilt every time.
but This one one should last awhile.
lol
40 cc lol I bet when he flies over houses people come out yelling ...hey quit cutting my grass ... and get off my lawn whoever you are !! Lol
Very funny .
If you turn that tiny motor off you'd be more comfortable!
engine yamacha?
Super
That wing looks pretty big. No way you could fly a small wing, let alone do a forward launch, especially if you are of normal weight >180 lbs. May be ok in the right conditions for a small person. Underpowered paramotors can be dangerous though!
NW Huckin Normal weight? >180 ? A few generations back, the average American male weighed 154.
How much "biodiesel" are you carrying? :-)
+Ana Carrillo A few generations back the average male height was 5'6", now the world average is 5'9" with first world countries bringing up that average. There are a lot of fit 180lb+ people nowadays.
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How dare you take care read with this device. Adventure but it's very dangerous for life.
nice
Grasscutter engine
Wow
40 cc !!!
İ think
put me in that at 83 KG and i won't get off the ground
no penatration, trouble with a capital T
parece que faltou força ai...
Which type of Engine you are using???
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bello
зачем нужно летать с дохлым мотором при недостатке тяги...загадочная латинская душа..
The would not get my 230 lbs in the air.
looks very under powered.
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waw
yep, that is not even good enough to be called marginal!
To noisy....but funny
zooming in was pointless for the entire fleet you can not see shit
это мотор для немощных? Мотор весит 11 кг а парня на ноги ставят два ассистента...
dle 170 engine
It has 80 cc engine
Wrong.
No need for that.
See my Videos at:
GhostGlider NotMot
here on YT.
Need one $500 anybody have it?
a doble contra sencillo cualquiera es buen perdedor
That propeller is waayyyyy too small ! If you have a small engine, the first thing to do is to compensate with a large diameter prop to increase propulsive efficiency !
Motor fraco!!
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why would you even put a 40cc engine on something that flies with that kind of weight. 40cc engines are trash even on little pocket rockets for kids. i wouldn't even call that flight. thats fucking hovering....... obviously no care for his wellbeing lmaoo