It's a shame the United States can't advance in this category. Why? Because of being stuck on the car, space, ignorance, and stupidly. Americans can only sit back and watch..
@@chawza8402 Oh yeah, I'm sure the United States citizens benefit greatly from the price gouging that the auto manufacturers cause raising the prices on their vehicles when they shouldn't be, and the lack of any other modes of transportation that causes a lot of traffic and frustration. Not to mention Biden having to tap into the oil reserve that was intended for military use showing that we're desperate for cheap fossil fuels. What an embarrassment
California US High Speed Rail: - Started since 2008, - Spent more than 10 Billion USD, - 2022 not even reach 20% of completion. Indonesian - China High Speed Rail. - Started since 2015, - Cost 7 Billion USD, - Final test in 2022, - Open for public in 2023.
@@李梅烧烤泥轰豚 this project started groundbreaking in 2016. So the increase was not because of rising prices and war. It was mostly because of increase in land clearing cost and engineering cost
I’m from the Philippines and because Indonesia was my favorite country, I planned to visit Jakarta and Bandung by this train which is much fast and comfortable than Philippine National Railways despite they have coaches from Indonesia(PT INKA)..But don’t lose hope for Philippine Railway system because new Communter lines such as North-South Commuter Railway and others are full swing on construction and expected to finished by the next 5 years 🇵🇭❤️🇮🇩 On Thursday, November 24, let’s us celebrate the 73rd Friendship Anniversary of the Philippines and Indonesia as a diplomatic relations and we can do it these two countries to make stronger than ever and the future…Long Live Philippines and Indonesia “Friendship Together, Love Each Other” 🇵🇭🤝🇮🇩
This is a worthwhile investment which directly benefits the people of Indonesia. It is a result of friendship and cooperation between Indonesia and China. Unlike the US which has nothing meaningful to offer, just keeps telling everyone not to do any business with China. Luckily, Indonesia knows what is best for itself. Well done Indonesia🎉🎉🎉
The first high-speed train rail with 300KM/H speed, impressive and great for Indonesia . Good choice of partnership with China is a key for the success.
Not many people know how China outbid Japan in this project. Why? Because China's tech was considered 'superior' than that of Japan (Indonesia authority confirmed this), plus the price was cheaper, plus the loan interest was more tolerant, plus China was willing to do technology-transfer.
Japan railway has been the choice for Indonesia for its MRT, and electric Commuter train for 2 decades now in Indonesia. China won this project because it was cheaper than japan, and they provide Transfer of Technology.
You have no idea what you fck talking about. He is communist puppet. Indonesians will pay heavy price for all his project with communist. Also our country debt is so high under 10 year his regime.
@Keyboard Emperor California's IQ is 111 and is about to pass Germany to become the world's fourth largest economy. China's infinite number of misguided policies has resulted in a meager 2022 GNP of less than 3% and it will continue to shrink because the population is imploding, waste over building of infrastructure and ghost cities, and a sinful gambling culture. India's population will soon be greater. Indian food tastes better, too.
@Keyboard Emperor I am sorry your stay was so horrible. I have heard horror stories like yours where bandits do target victims who are looking at their phone while walking. Thankfully you have a strong grip. There is no accounting for taste and cleanliness, as they say. An Indian neighbor took her American raised son to visit and she said he was appalled and he probably didn't desire to return ever, either. I must say however, it is entertaining to read about the rivalry between the two countries. It will be interesting to see how the 2023 economy fares in every country. Why do you think China's economy will rebound? I have enjoyed our chat. Thank you Keyboard Emperor.
Congratulations to Indonesia, China is helping developing countries to benefit from world leading technology. Australians have wanted a high speed rail connecting Canberra and Sydney for over 20 years, but it remains a fantasy
Our MRT built together with Japanese, our LRT is with Korea, our high speed railways come with China..but we also have LRT made in Indonesia.. we work and partnership with all asia developed technology, but we also progress to manage our own ...❤❤❤🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩
@Asean Station ID Hampir semua negara maju juga ada make komponen dan/atau teknologi dari negara lain setiap kali development produk, apalagi buat produk pertama. Yang aneh itu kalau ekspektasinya bikin produk pertama terus komponennya semuanya bikin sendiri, hampir ga pernah kejadian itu.
@@xyy9040 just like what they said about the Los Angeles to San Francisco HSR project that started 20 years ago, wasted billions dollars and still hasn't started much yet.
Spending money on the country' s infrastructure is better than spending it on military hardware, weapons and arms that one particular country specialises in.
@@AfridiBD That is why when Indonesia is spending heavy on Military modernization, we spread into a long multi-year funding with export credits and maximize localization of equipment manufacturing We have built a huge industry that is also able to export such as air planes, warships, bullets , uniforms and gears, arms, vehicles such as APC later on maybe corvettes, OPV, and Frigates.
Infrastructure and poverty eradication can be done simultaneously. The government is a multi-sectoral body, it has the ability to focus on multiple things at once. Building a high-speed railway line does not necessarily mean neglecting poverty and unemployment. I understand some might fear that this project will be a white elephant and a debt trap, and I'm no expert so my opinion must not be taken without a grain of salt, but I do believe the market is there IF the government has the will power to create an integrated transportation system so that the train will be accessible to many, especially in Bandung where the main station is quite a distance from the city center and with no mass transport connecting the two. Also, I do believe Indonesia has a strong enough economy to repay the loan in the long term, and unlike Sri Lanka, a default would be unthinkable for an economy the size of Indonesia.
True. When NYC built its subway in the 1800s living conditions in much of the city were very poor. But society can grow well into big projects that were well planned.
@Forward Go why poor remain poor? example if you grown 10 tons of tomato, try to sell that to local would be difficult as there are hundreds of other farmer like yourself try to do the exact same thing. with infrasture your tomato can sell to other part of the country fast or able to deliver to port and export to other country. China why their economy growth so fast it all down to their huge train network the west said oh china train loosing money but they ignore the fact it help all those farmer selling their produce goverment recoup money from train loss by tax....
In fact, most high-speed railways in China suffer losses, but the economic benefits brought by high-speed rail connectivity far outweigh the losses.I believe the population of Indonesia can afford a railway. In China, although most railways face losses, the railways connecting major cities are profitable. The cities connected by high-speed rail in Indonesia have a large population, so I think there is no reason to suffer losses, if the operation is good.
@@namazlur78 Railways can be transformed. Don't worry. You should worry about the stability of the regime. The opposition may veto these when it comes to power?
Incredible, any country that can develop its transit system will come a long way. Reliable transportation is highly beneficial to cities and its people this will allow them to moved more efficiently and will reduce car dependency wish is important for environmental reasons
congratulate Indonesia，China have 180,000 km hignway and 40,000km high speed railway (350km/h or 250km/h).China's vast land area contains almost all complex geography and climate. Our high-speed rail and construction technology are stable and safe after these tests.Hope Indonesian people have more infrastructure. Welcome to cooperate again😀
China's railways is in over trillion dollar debt. And indonesia might never be able to pay debt back to china. And fall for China's debt trap like many countries before. Sri Lanka, Pakistan.
@@anandsuralkar2947 public transportation is NOT to make profit by itself. It is to benefit the people using it. China railway is in debt, but China railway contributes to economy much more than its debt.
@@anandsuralkar2947 Bro , we are not Srilanka , do you know what is Indonesia National debt to GDP ? check with IMF as WB . in 2023 it is only 29 % ( one of the lowest within G20 and even the world ). We have a GDP nominal of USD 1.35 Trillion and a GDP PPP of USD 4.3 Trillion ( no 7 in the world and within G20 ). Super abundant in Nickel , Copper, Gold, Silver, Tin, Alumina, coal, LNG, Uranium, Rare earth Metals , CPO etc that are valued to be able to pay our national debt 5 times of now. We will be a leading country for EV and renewable energy in 10 years from now. Bro our population is only 280 Million compared to India ( 1.4 Billion ) the largest land ad sea archipelago within ASEAN. So do not make silly comments about debt trap with China , we took long term loan because we can repay back easily. Indians are biased toward China, because you do not like them.
You can see both optimistic view and pessimistic view. But building this big project takes years. If Indonesia doesn't start now, it will be further left behind. Pessimistic people and politicians (opposition) are cancer to a developing country.
Yeah, dont worry. In politic there will be a haters and opposition that will always ready oppose anything. They will go saying water is dry, if it what it takes to oppose the guy they hate.
I thinks the biggest thing China gives in this prodject is the willingness to teach the tech to Indonesian engineers. This prodject used to be planned to be done by Japan, but they refuse to exchange the knowledge in the process....
Meanwhile here in the Philippines, rail transport is still an afterthought! I will be in Indonesia next year, and I am excited to ride the train if it opens in June next year! Go Indonesia!!
Back in 2007, my Indonesian cousin came over to the Philippines, we took LRT together since they don't have such thing in Indonesia yet at that time. But now, they have several train lines, they even manufacture some of their own trains (and our PNR even bought trains from them), and now they have a high-speed railway. Talk about the lack of urgency and short sightedness of Filipinos. Indonesian really beat us when it comes to will and long-term goals.
If you want chaos, mess, constant confrontation, division, in political, social aspects, feel free to follow western model. If you want rapid development, solidarity, long-term vision and planning, stability, follow China/Singapore's model.
OMG, I wish I could explain as clearly as you ! You say it 100% true, and to the point. If you could waive the copyright, I would copy/paste your wording in other forums or channels .
yep that is why we follow the second option but as we are a big country , member of G20, US/Japan/Australia are worried if we "show" who we prefer to work. As you can see Singapore PM is always present during important International and regional meeting and a talking partner with him on economic issues. With China , it's a stealth operation and the western allies can only guess how deep is the relation. President Xi and the First lady got the best welcome and farewell send off by the Balinese standing on streets waving Indonesian and China flags , all the way to the Airport. Balinese know who is the big brother of Asia. right ? 🇨🇳🤝🇮🇩💪✌️
Mostly peoples that saying about bad thing about indonesia and china HSR project are Indian.. what ever india and china problems are past and not indonesia problems. Pres Xi and Pm Modi already shake hand , hugs each other yesterday in bali, why so much hatred againts china??
@@baiyufan 1. Indonesia not sri langka. 2. For your info indonesia HSR project is joint venture between indonesia State owned company 60% share and China State owned company 40% share it is debt if china fully funded the project in indonesia case its joint venture. so what debt trap??
@@baiyufan still push dumb conspiracy? give us 1 example of china debt trap.... sri lank 8-10% that debt yet you blame china so who the other 90% why they not call out ? or you blame them?
Well done , Indonesia ! For being the first SEA nation to have a bullet train running. Hopefully, Malaysia and Singapore can work together again to re-start the high speed train venture also.
Indonesia is Pioneer the high speed railway in southeast, and the first having high speed railway in southeast, amazing Indonesia. From us USA state. 👍
Laos already had its bullet train last year, although its speed is moderate. Before it's operation, the western media always said that this railway is too expensive for Laos, but now that train in Laos is very popular, creating more business opportunities and improving business efficiency
@@EnriqueLopez-lf8qm That's Not bullet train lmao but rather semi-high speed rail (build by China) with not so gud service specially as Online ticket booking ain't available, have to book 2days prior for train & that too offline on station..They don't even distribute seats to family ppl near to each other and not flexible in changing seats or distributing it acc to passenger's preference even tho most seats in them coaches stay empty..There's no much facilities on railway station as well except seating arrangements & toilets.
For country with more than 200 Billion people, 17.000 Island, and 500 ethnics, build infrastructures are very important for Indonesia to connect all citizen.
As a Indian ...we proud of our all ASEAN brothers..they are developing so fast bit sad for our neighbour Myanmar..I hope our Indian bullets train project completed soon...👍
This is a great initiative for the people. Rather than focusing on whether the rail network is profitable, you need to look at the benefits to the wider economy & infrastructure and the revenue that will create. In addition to trade within & outside of Indonesia, it enables a workforce to travel for work (without having to abandon their home towns), businesses to expand, locate or be created in other smaller regions & it still be within short travel to the city. This means local economies & communities can still thrive rather than be abandoned in pursuit of work. This is aside the tourist market that will take advantage of this way of travel. The US/ Europe talk a good story, but despite decades of dominating the interests of Asia, what is to show for it? They don't build anything. Anything of value is taken from the people for the profit of external companies. They're not interested in the needs of local people. Indonesia like all nations, want the opportunity to invest & develop to their full potential. They have a lot to offer. These loans from China are longterm, you have something to show for it & it allows Indonesia to grow. Love from the 🇬🇧
In order to alleviate poverty, it is necessary to get the right infrastructure in position first. There are always people who will criticize what China has done, is doing and will do in future to assist other countries to improve their infrastructure in order to set up the proper environment for the countries to develop further. It is easy to criticize (like this Bhima Yudhistira who should know better). However do you have concrete alternatives to what is being done to ensure progress in Indonesia?
It‘s a good start, at least people Indonesia can enjoy it months later🎉 What about train in India? You can not take a train on you PowerPoint or YT comment here, enjoy your dream😂
China and Russia are both great countries that respect their partnership with their allies but western countries are just stealing from its allies. Indonesia is going to be a very great country in the near future.
There is a Chinese proverb: what you don't want to encounter, you don't want others to encounter. There is also a proverb in China: If you want to be rich, build roads first. The development model of the Chinese people is: let everyone achieve happiness, then there will be no confrontation in the world. This is the wisdom that China can live for 5000 years.
@@stevenxliu it's a fact. China claim Spratly islands as it's territory which claim by Malaysia, Philippines, and Vietnam as well. China build military bases in part of Spratly islands. I consider that as a threat.
$2 billion over its initial budget? in india, by the time india japanese bullet train project finished in 2028, it will double its initial construction cost and 8 years behind its initial completion project schedule.
At the same time, Japan's budget for building high-speed rail for India has increased from the initial 1.8 trillion yen to 2.5 trillion yen, an increase of nearly 40%.And more importantly, Japan has only built 10 kilometers of high-speed rail in the past five years, and construction costs will continue to increase wildly. Hope India can survive such a debt trap.
@@SouthRoyal Maybe he is in another country, but as a China-North Korea hsr project, it is currently impossible. Let's look back the China-North Korea Yalu River New Bridge, which was independently funded by China with 2.2 billion yuan. China completed the project on time, The North Korean only needs to connect their road on the North Korean side. They can't even do it, and find various reasons to refuse to implement the agreement, so far the bridge is considered to be open to traffic. And now, about the high-speed rail, Chinese will not take it seriously anymore, let's forget it.
@@gainner5982 i think theres already a freight train line running between china-north korea, i know north korea is open to chinese tourist before the pandemic and closed atm. i heard they have electrified rail line in north korea already , just not sure if they have enough electricity to keep the line powered.
@@redhongkong There have always been freight trains and passenger trains between China and North Korea, operating on the old railways. The topic mentioned above is about high-speed rail.
Japan and China compete to win this project. But then Indonesia decided to choose china The reason is simple. Not only China willing to fund alot of money despite only have 40% of the share, china also willing to transfer the technology on how to build and maintain HSR to Indonesian government Transfer of technology is important, because if the construction of Jakarta-Bandung HSR is success, Indonesian government will be more confident in constructing another HSR in the future without the help of foreign investor. This is not strange why China willing to share the technology to Indonesia. Because Indonesia and China already in good relationship even before the first indonesian kingdom that become chain link of modern Indonesian civilization even exist, which is the Kingdom of Kutai Kertanegara that born in 5th century AD
I heard that China lends 70% and the bid is much cheaper than Japan. These projects are very difficult to recover capital. If a train line serves 50 million people, it will be effective.
public transportation is NOT to make profit by itself. It is to benefit the people using it. In China railway contributes to economy much more than its debt.
@@dukai2004 I do not deny its benefits, but to use it effectively and reduce losses as much as possible is still the problem. You know, China has mastered construction technology and high-speed trains, they have the transportation needs of more than a billion people and a large amount of goods, but they are still at a loss. It will become a burden if not exploited enough. Its operating and maintenance costs are very high. hope indonesia will use it thoroughly, and most effectively.
California has the fifth largest economy in the whole wide world with a population of a mere 39 million. California is leading in Pandemic and Fentanyl deaths thanks to unscrupulous China.
My grandmother is from Indonesia, she moved to China when got married with my grandpa, glad to see her home country is making progress.
wow ……!
You are chindo
@@KakekSugionoCR7 dia orang tionghoa karena neneknya mengikuti sang kakek, lantas orang tua nya pasti orang tiongkok
Oh I C,,, u must be little bit like rendang, nasi goreng,, ect, don't u?
Ok
Indonesia is doing a lot of progress, great to see!
Indonesian's can be proud 🇮🇩🙏
sorry brother it's not the Indonesian flag
🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩 Indonesia X 🇲🇨🇲🇨 Monaco
@@wild_Cat7 its the same hahaha. only the size ratio difference
It's a shame the United States can't advance in this category. Why? Because of being stuck on the car, space, ignorance, and stupidly. Americans can only sit back and watch..
@@carlsmith3045 I can't call stupidity where the US's citizen benefit the economy greatly from the toll road and the cheap oil where it used to be
@@chawza8402 Oh yeah, I'm sure the United States citizens benefit greatly from the price gouging that the auto manufacturers cause raising the prices on their vehicles when they shouldn't be, and the lack of any other modes of transportation that causes a lot of traffic and frustration. Not to mention Biden having to tap into the oil reserve that was intended for military use showing that we're desperate for cheap fossil fuels. What an embarrassment
California US High Speed Rail:
- Started since 2008,
- Spent more than 10 Billion USD,
- 2022 not even reach 20% of completion.
Indonesian - China High Speed Rail.
- Started since 2015,
- Cost 7 Billion USD,
- Final test in 2022,
- Open for public in 2023.
I doubt California HSR will be done before armageddon. 🤦
实际上，如果世界大宗商品不因美元和战争涨价，印尼的高铁项目不会增加如此多的成本。
@@李梅烧烤泥轰豚 this project started groundbreaking in 2016. So the increase was not because of rising prices and war. It was mostly because of increase in land clearing cost and engineering cost
its incomparable since California projects is much more longer
This is a financial scam!
I’m from the Philippines and because Indonesia was my favorite country, I planned to visit Jakarta and Bandung by this train which is much fast and comfortable than Philippine National Railways despite they have coaches from Indonesia(PT INKA)..But don’t lose hope for Philippine Railway system because new Communter lines such as North-South Commuter Railway and others are full swing on construction and expected to finished by the next 5 years 🇵🇭❤️🇮🇩
On Thursday, November 24, let’s us celebrate the 73rd Friendship Anniversary of the Philippines and Indonesia as a diplomatic relations and we can do it these two countries to make stronger than ever and the future…Long Live Philippines and Indonesia “Friendship Together, Love Each Other” 🇵🇭🤝🇮🇩
Amin, god bless all of us
@@soluckyme910 Thank you to support 🇵🇭❤️🇮🇩
Ako din! Nagbook na ako tren mula Jakarta hanggang Bandung kaso nagka-pandemic, di na ko natuloy
@@erinpilla Sa akin itutuloy ko yan kasi pangarap ko makapunta dun para maghahanap ako ng friends at pag-ibig dun
@@darwinqpenaflorida3797 Next year itutuloy ko na
Indonesia under the current president is really developing very fast. Indonesian has elected a good president.👍👍👍
After G20, next year he is ASEAN chairman and will be his last period before retiring in 2024.
@@steveman888 is it true Puan is running as PDI-P's president?
@@erinpilla who's knows, the politic on our nation right now very liqid, so all posibblelity can be happen.
@@erinpilla she has the ambition but nobody likes her. From pdip ppl like ganjar pranowo more.
@@saanstarantolin2641 yeah I would like Ganjar too! Puan can go VP for now and get a little more leverage
This is a worthwhile investment which directly benefits the people of Indonesia. It is a result of friendship and cooperation between Indonesia and China. Unlike the US which has nothing meaningful to offer, just keeps telling everyone not to do any business with China. Luckily, Indonesia knows what is best for itself. Well done Indonesia🎉🎉🎉
Exactly......
馬鹿な後進国は何年経っても馬鹿
The US is the cancer in this planet.
USA = WAR , TANK , etc..
Try to see this as an opportunity instead of liability… such a good point! That’s the difference between visionary and fixed-minded people.
Many leaders see only debt not the asset.
Only the 5is and their minions see this as a liability. A liability for them but prosperity for the rest of the world.
China: BRI for all.
US: bombs for all.
China : road for you.
USA : gun for you
China : i build...
US : i destroy..
Cn:build build build
Us:boom boom boom
@@carkawalakhatulistiwa True💯!!! Lol😅😅
Lmao
China built a highway connecting phnom penh to sihanoukville in Cambodia. Time travel reduced from 6 hours to 1.5 hours
We, Indonesia, have been able to build 2,500 km of highway toll roads so far..
And later in 2024 it will be 4,000 km,,
I think high-speed rail will be built in the future.
@@rkschanel2182 Indonesian yang beri teknologi bangun jalan tol ke cina
@@carkawalakhatulistiwa any evidence or you just pull that out of your a***
@@carkawalakhatulistiwa china dan semua negara asteng
Congrats Indonesia from your northern neighbor from PH 🇵🇭❤️🇮🇩
Ph when?
@@starexanovanna7717 philipines dude
greetings from albania, god bless for Indonesia
Thanks brother 🙃
Thanks guys sincerely yours from us Indonesia people🙏🙏 God bless all of us
@@soluckyme910 Amen❣
Albania matamu cuk! 😂
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hello from Finland. Indonesia is getting better, well done 👍
When i can see filandia Estonia tunnel for High speed train
Thanks guys, sincerely yours from us Indonesia people🙏🙏
@@soluckyme910 Congratulations to Indonesia! 🇮🇩 👍👍👍
kipak njir
The first high-speed train rail with 300KM/H speed, impressive and great for Indonesia . Good choice of partnership with China is a key for the success.
Thank you China. God bless Indonesia.
Not many people know how China outbid Japan in this project. Why? Because China's tech was considered 'superior' than that of Japan (Indonesia authority confirmed this), plus the price was cheaper, plus the loan interest was more tolerant, plus China was willing to do technology-transfer.
@@oceanwave4502 the loan interest was more tolerant? wtf are talking about? the japanese's interest rate is much more lower
@@oceanwave4502 Nope, Indonesia chose China because it was cheap, and got a transfer of technology
@@oceanwave4502 Nope, Indonesia chose China because it was cheap, and got a transfer of technology
@@chawza8402 No its not.
I swear as Indonesian, It's like daydreaming to see that Aljazeera giving postive news about China program around the world
Not everything was positive, did you hear the last part, "but at what cost", there's always a negative spin in everything about China haters.
@@_seola_ at least there is a lil bit positive news.
As you know how evil this Al-Jazeera when serving something about China.
lol，most of the so-called mainstream media in the world has an American owner, no matter how deeply they hide it.
@@ghtrl8 This, I agree with you, at least they show something without mentioning human rights or genocide....
Me too 🫢🫢
Japan railway failed in India and Vietnam, Indonesia must feel very lucky to choose China.
Because our President Joko Widodo has a vision for the future..
The Indonesian President's motto is work work and work
Modiji is Vishwa Guru .He always used to say Atma nirbar ..nirban .
Japan railway has been the choice for Indonesia for its MRT, and electric Commuter train for 2 decades now in Indonesia. China won this project because it was cheaper than japan, and they provide Transfer of Technology.
@Riya Mahato So what it means ....it is not possible now . In other words it is possible only 25 years after .....
@Riya Mahato There are already 40,000 kilometers of high-speed rail in operation in our country, haha😄. 🇨🇳
Indonesia very lucky to have such leader 👍
Yess we’re blessed🙏🏼
You have no idea what you fck talking about. He is communist puppet. Indonesians will pay heavy price for all his project with communist. Also our country debt is so high under 10 year his regime.
@Keyboard Emperor China exploits workers like slaves.
@Keyboard Emperor California's IQ is 111 and is about to pass Germany to become the world's fourth largest economy. China's infinite number of misguided policies has resulted in a meager 2022 GNP of less than 3% and it will continue to shrink because the population is imploding, waste over building of infrastructure and ghost cities, and a sinful gambling culture. India's population will soon be greater. Indian food tastes better, too.
@Keyboard Emperor I am sorry your stay was so horrible. I have heard horror stories like yours where bandits do target victims who are looking at their phone while walking. Thankfully you have a strong grip. There is no accounting for taste and cleanliness, as they say. An Indian neighbor took her American raised son to visit and she said he was appalled and he probably didn't desire to return ever, either.
I must say however, it is entertaining to read about the rivalry between the two countries. It will be interesting to see how the 2023 economy fares in every country. Why do you think China's economy will rebound? I have enjoyed our chat. Thank you Keyboard Emperor.
Congratulations to Indonesia, China is helping developing countries to benefit from world leading technology. Australians have wanted a high speed rail connecting Canberra and Sydney for over 20 years, but it remains a fantasy
Our MRT built together with Japanese, our LRT is with Korea, our high speed railways come with China..but we also have LRT made in Indonesia.. we work and partnership with all asia developed technology, but we also progress to manage our own ...❤❤❤🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩
Nicely put 🇮🇩🇮🇩
@Asean Station ID Palembang INKA ngab 🗿
@Asean Station ID Hampir semua negara maju juga ada make komponen dan/atau teknologi dari negara lain setiap kali development produk, apalagi buat produk pertama. Yang aneh itu kalau ekspektasinya bikin produk pertama terus komponennya semuanya bikin sendiri, hampir ga pernah kejadian itu.
LRT Palembang sudah diatas 60% menggunakan bahan nasional dan teknisi lokal. Jangan membuat fitnah.... Silahkan kunjungi situs KAI
@Asean Station ID cenel lu yg ngadu domba indo sm malay
it can go up to 400Km/h but with limited operational speed up to 350Km/h.
Mobil bisa 120 km per jam tapi di batasi oleh kecepatan jalan. Bahkan tol cuma 100 km per jam. Begitu juga kereta api di batasi dengan rel ya
However, back in Modi country, the Made in Japan HSTR risk more delays and higher cost. Stupidity has no cure.
Who is modi ?
@@truthhurts4732 Goggle "Modi" 4 answer.
@@jayechow8525 nothing important here
It will be done eventually it's alright
@@xyy9040 just like what they said about the Los Angeles to San Francisco HSR project that started 20 years ago, wasted billions dollars and still hasn't started much yet.
This brings Indonesia one step closer to Bringing itself on par with Japan and South Korea.
No bro, lol 😂, far away. We just need fresh tech we can learn.
@@redeunuch2989 arrogant little country know-it-all
Amin
One step closer yet still very far from those two. We still have a lot to do but I'm excited for the future!
Indonesia will be NO.7 in 2045.
Spending money on the country' s infrastructure is better than spending it on military hardware, weapons and arms that one particular country specialises in.
Yessir🎯
@@AfridiBD That is why when Indonesia is spending heavy on Military modernization, we spread into a long multi-year funding with export credits and maximize localization of equipment manufacturing We have built a huge industry that is also able to export such as air planes, warships, bullets , uniforms and gears, arms, vehicles such as APC later on maybe corvettes, OPV, and Frigates.
@@AfridiBD Thank you Bro 👍🤝
@@AfridiBD Which country?
It sounds like you are referring to North Korea.
Infrastructure and poverty eradication can be done simultaneously. The government is a multi-sectoral body, it has the ability to focus on multiple things at once. Building a high-speed railway line does not necessarily mean neglecting poverty and unemployment. I understand some might fear that this project will be a white elephant and a debt trap, and I'm no expert so my opinion must not be taken without a grain of salt, but I do believe the market is there IF the government has the will power to create an integrated transportation system so that the train will be accessible to many, especially in Bandung where the main station is quite a distance from the city center and with no mass transport connecting the two. Also, I do believe Indonesia has a strong enough economy to repay the loan in the long term, and unlike Sri Lanka, a default would be unthinkable for an economy the size of Indonesia.
True. When NYC built its subway in the 1800s living conditions in much of the city were very poor. But society can grow well into big projects that were well planned.
@Forward Go why poor remain poor? example if you grown 10 tons of tomato, try to sell that to local would be difficult as there are hundreds of other farmer like yourself try to do the exact same thing. with infrasture your tomato can sell to other part of the country fast or able to deliver to port and export to other country. China why their economy growth so fast it all down to their huge train network
the west said oh china train loosing money but they ignore the fact it help all those farmer selling their produce goverment recoup money from train loss by tax....
In fact, most high-speed railways in China suffer losses, but the economic benefits brought by high-speed rail connectivity far outweigh the losses.I believe the population of Indonesia can afford a railway. In China, although most railways face losses, the railways connecting major cities are profitable. The cities connected by high-speed rail in Indonesia have a large population, so I think there is no reason to suffer losses, if the operation is good.
I think the Indonesian gov rushed the project & also poor planning beforehand. Inter-connectivity between the rails were not considered
@@namazlur78 Railways can be transformed. Don't worry. You should worry about the stability of the regime. The opposition may veto these when it comes to power?
alhamdulillah
my country indonesia
Saya orang Jepang. Selamat untuk Indonesia. aku menyukainya
Thanks guys sincerely yours from us Indonesia🙏🙏
im in japan to
arigatougozaimasu. I respect Japan and its people
Hope I can ride Shinkansen again in Japan 😊
cant believe 7 years ago i rode this train from hangzhou to ningbo.. now its in my own country
Incredible, any country that can develop its transit system will come a long way. Reliable transportation is highly beneficial to cities and its people this will allow them to moved more efficiently and will reduce car dependency wish is important for environmental reasons
Finally some positive reporting by Al Jazeera on China topic. 👍
We now it
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hahahahahaha，maybe will delete this video in few days
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Everyone knows.
Congrarulation to the indonsean people this good wish I could ride this someday hopefully ❤️💕
Anything so cheap here 😊
Nice 👍
Really that's good as well hopefully will be there someday 💕
It will be a very fast 88 mile journey in only 30 minutes. Enjoy but don't blink because it will end before you have a chance to finish a refreshment.
well done indonesia .
Love from you brother nstion India .
Thanks guys sincerely yours from us Indonesia people🙏🙏
congratulate Indonesia，China have 180,000 km hignway and 40,000km high speed railway (350km/h or 250km/h).China's vast land area contains almost all complex geography and climate. Our high-speed rail and construction technology are stable and safe after these tests.Hope Indonesian people have more infrastructure. Welcome to cooperate again😀
China's railways is in over trillion dollar debt.
And indonesia might never be able to pay debt back to china.
And fall for China's debt trap like many countries before.
Sri Lanka, Pakistan.
@@anandsuralkar2947 public transportation is NOT to make profit by itself. It is to benefit the people using it. China railway is in debt, but China railway contributes to economy much more than its debt.
@@anandsuralkar2947 China accounts for only 10% of Sri Lanka's debt
@@anandsuralkar2947 Bro , we are not Srilanka , do you know what is Indonesia National debt to GDP ? check with IMF as WB . in 2023 it is only 29 % ( one of the lowest within G20 and even the world ). We have a GDP nominal of USD 1.35 Trillion and a GDP PPP of USD 4.3 Trillion ( no 7 in the world and within G20 ). Super abundant in Nickel , Copper, Gold, Silver, Tin, Alumina, coal, LNG, Uranium, Rare earth Metals , CPO etc that are valued to be able to pay our national debt 5 times of now. We will be a leading country for EV and renewable energy in 10 years from now. Bro our population is only 280 Million compared to India ( 1.4 Billion ) the largest land ad sea archipelago within ASEAN. So do not make silly comments about debt trap with China , we took long term loan because we can repay back easily. Indians are biased toward China, because you do not like them.
@@anandsuralkar2947 看来你被西方媒体和民主人士洗脑了，世界上大部分国家的债务和资金来源于日本控制的亚洲银行和美国控制的世界银行，与这些债务捆绑在一起的是政治要求。为什么西方的媒体不宣传呢？
You can see both optimistic view and pessimistic view. But building this big project takes years. If Indonesia doesn't start now, it will be further left behind. Pessimistic people and politicians (opposition) are cancer to a developing country.
Because of the courage of Pak Jokowi, we have seen now MRT, LRT, HSR , EV etc
The best comment I ever heard in years. 👍👍👍
Yeah, dont worry. In politic there will be a haters and opposition that will always ready oppose anything.
They will go saying water is dry, if it what it takes to oppose the guy they hate.
Indonesia can easily get money from this sort of infrastructure. This goes into economical progress. This is a win for Indonesia.
*_The First HSR in Southern Hemisphere & Southeast Asia..._*
*_Bravo Indonésia!!!_*
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And we're going to have it earlier than the US
@@DevSarman *_Ya, exactly!!!_*
Congratulations to Indonesia! 🇮🇩 👍👍👍
Look forward to the rise of a great power 💪
Lu ada dmn2 cui
@@ChinaSongsCollection *_Thanks_* 🙏🏻
I thinks the biggest thing China gives in this prodject is the willingness to teach the tech to Indonesian engineers. This prodject used to be planned to be done by Japan, but they refuse to exchange the knowledge in the process....
It may be expensive to build but the knowledge about the engineering behind is a chance for Indonesia to upgrade the overall knowhow of its students
3 hours from Jakarta to Bandung is best case.. usually is more like 4~5 hours
correct Mas , traffic jam in the toll roads are getting worse day and night
It takes 4 - 5 hours jakarta to bandung reduce to about 40 menit by bullet train.
Not everyone has their own to drive, public transportation is badly needed.
Especially if you pass the Industrial Area Highway, those are Frickin Truck Parking Lot 😂
Most of the time it will take 5 hours.
Indonesia has a good leader with a vision indeed.
this is great projects congratulation to Indonesia👍
Thanks guys sincerely yours from us Indonesia people🙏🙏
Masha Allah great work Indonesia
Love from Pakistan
Meanwhile here in the Philippines, rail transport is still an afterthought! I will be in Indonesia next year, and I am excited to ride the train if it opens in June next year!
Go Indonesia!!
Back in 2007, my Indonesian cousin came over to the Philippines, we took LRT together since they don't have such thing in Indonesia yet at that time. But now, they have several train lines, they even manufacture some of their own trains (and our PNR even bought trains from them), and now they have a high-speed railway.
Talk about the lack of urgency and short sightedness of Filipinos. Indonesian really beat us when it comes to will and long-term goals.
@@khust2993maybe because Indonesia needs a rail system more than us. But yeah, we are so obsessed with cars people get in debts for them
Yes, God bless all of us. Amin🙏
Yes
Cars = American mindset.
@@ninojanjeremygo463 Railways = "makes me feel less superior"
I prefer Chinese funded infrastructure over western lectures
Hahaha
Exactly 💯💯💯💯😊
western lectures? no, it's not only lecture but coup, regime change, sanction, or democracy dropping.
The west made china rich .
This flagship HSR project is like an opium to the rest of the world. Only China and France has exported HSR.
Indonesia to the future
If you want chaos, mess, constant confrontation, division, in political, social aspects, feel free to follow western model. If you want rapid development, solidarity, long-term vision and planning, stability, follow China/Singapore's model.
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OMG, I wish I could explain as clearly as you !
You say it 100% true, and to the point.
If you could waive the copyright, I would copy/paste your wording in other forums or channels .
yep that is why we follow the second option but as we are a big country , member of G20, US/Japan/Australia are worried if we "show" who we prefer to work. As you can see Singapore PM is always present during important International and regional meeting and a talking partner with him on economic issues. With China , it's a stealth operation and the western allies can only guess how deep is the relation. President Xi and the First lady got the best welcome and farewell send off by the Balinese standing on streets waving Indonesian and China flags , all the way to the Airport. Balinese know who is the big brother of Asia. right ? 🇨🇳🤝🇮🇩💪✌️
Singapore and China are not same at all. That is an insult to Singaporeans.
Lol india is developing itself with democracy model. Yes may be democracy can be slow but it gives what people wants.
Mostly peoples that saying about bad thing about indonesia and china HSR project are Indian.. what ever india and china problems are past and not indonesia problems. Pres Xi and Pm Modi already shake hand , hugs each other yesterday in bali, why so much hatred againts china??
Because the West likes to see conflicts between China and its neighbors, and is willing to pay for them.
when only debt comes at knocking your door, you ppl will identify chinese debt trap
@@baiyufan 1. Indonesia not sri langka.
2. For your info indonesia HSR project is joint venture between indonesia State owned company 60% share and China State owned company 40% share it is debt if china fully funded the project in indonesia case its joint venture. so what debt trap??
@@baiyufan still push dumb conspiracy? give us 1 example of china debt trap....
sri lank 8-10% that debt yet you blame china so who the other 90% why they not call out ? or you blame them?
Unfortunately ,Indians are known to Buse people verbally .
Indonesians are so modest .
Well done , Indonesia ! For being the first SEA nation to have a bullet train running. Hopefully, Malaysia and Singapore can work together again to re-start the high speed train venture also.
Indonesia is Pioneer the high speed railway in southeast, and the first having high speed railway in southeast, amazing Indonesia. From us USA state. 👍
@@soluckyme910 yea right. From “USA state” 😂
Laos already had its bullet train last year, although its speed is moderate. Before it's operation, the western media always said that this railway is too expensive for Laos, but now that train in Laos is very popular, creating more business opportunities and improving business efficiency
@@EnriqueLopez-lf8qm That's Not bullet train lmao but rather semi-high speed rail (build by China) with not so gud service specially as Online ticket booking ain't available, have to book 2days prior for train & that too offline on station..They don't even distribute seats to family ppl near to each other and not flexible in changing seats or distributing it acc to passenger's preference even tho most seats in them coaches stay empty..There's no much facilities on railway station as well except seating arrangements & toilets.
@@EnriqueLopez-lf8qm Lao's one can only run 160 km/ hour. Google up. That's not bullet train. The Indonesian one is 350 km/ hour.
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Finally we have HSR! ✊
Maaf ku harus pakai bahasa Indonesia , Indonesia hebat , Indonesia Kuwat , Indonesia maju melesat ,jayalah negri ku untuk selamanya🇮🇩🇮🇩✊✊✊
Syedihhh
Kuwat ngga tuhh
lu yang komen gua yg malu,
lebih baik diem jgn overproud
@@sardiumar3622 kalau lu merasa malu sembunyi Empang.
@@cellinelim9367 🗿
i love you Indonesia 🇲🇨
For country with more than 200 Billion people, 17.000 Island, and 500 ethnics, build infrastructures are very important for Indonesia to connect all citizen.
280 million not billion,
280 billion?
280 miliar njir wkkwkw...
Yeah indeed archipelagic country makes it harder to develop its infrastructures
Keep propagating.
Indonesia👍👍👍
Cost overrun is due to land acquisition not building of the high speed rails
hi indonesia... greets from me in japan
So what?
As a Indian ...we proud of our all ASEAN brothers..they are developing so fast bit sad for our neighbour Myanmar..I hope our Indian bullets train project completed soon...👍
They started with us. But our project is 2 times greater than Their in length
I wish economic growth, peace and stability to India 🇮🇳 and the world🌍
@@xyy9040 no I told him the reason why our project isn't completed yet because india's first track is 2.5 time greater than Indonesia a track
@@thedn3164 I have understood you wrong, my apologies. I wish your country success 👍
Made toilets first of India 😷
Great rail network ...
This is a great initiative for the people. Rather than focusing on whether the rail network is profitable, you need to look at the benefits to the wider economy & infrastructure and the revenue that will create.
In addition to trade within & outside of Indonesia, it enables a workforce to travel for work (without having to abandon their home towns), businesses to expand, locate or be created in other smaller regions & it still be within short travel to the city.
This means local economies & communities can still thrive rather than be abandoned in pursuit of work. This is aside the tourist market that will take advantage of this way of travel.
The US/ Europe talk a good story, but despite decades of dominating the interests of Asia, what is to show for it? They don't build anything.
Anything of value is taken from the people for the profit of external companies. They're not interested in the needs of local people.
Indonesia like all nations, want the opportunity to invest & develop to their full potential. They have a lot to offer.
These loans from China are longterm, you have something to show for it & it allows Indonesia to grow.
Love from the 🇬🇧
China will build infrastructure in your countries while the USA will build Military and navy bases 😂😂😂😂 choose Wisely 👀
Bombs away.
In order to alleviate poverty, it is necessary to get the right infrastructure in position first. There are always people who will criticize what China has done, is doing and will do in future to assist other countries to improve their infrastructure in order to set up the proper environment for the countries to develop further. It is easy to criticize (like this Bhima Yudhistira who should know better). However do you have concrete alternatives to what is being done to ensure progress in Indonesia?
GO go go Indonesia
Moving forward together.
Good job China
Well done indonesia🇮🇩🇮🇩👍👍
Proud to be Indonesian...
Biasanya media ini mengangkat topik berita yang buruk tentang indonesia. Dan sekarang mereka membuat topik yang benar
99,5 % Benar Sekali..!!
Kebalik ngab biasa nya Aljazair berita baik mulu terkait negara mayoritas muslim, negatif nya ke China tumben sekarang positif
@@farthurf.5221 aljazera media barat mana ada baik2in negara muslim,
@@Fj-xt2ug aljazeera punya barat? LOL punya Qatar ini, agak2 condong gk suka China sebenernya.
@@Fj-xt2ug Qatar negara Muslim lhoo 😏
Ask India about Japan's cost overrun for the HSR in India. Not just many times overrun but also delayed more than a decade more....
It‘s a good start, at least people Indonesia can enjoy it months later🎉
What about train in India? You can not take a train on you PowerPoint or YT comment here, enjoy your dream😂
7 billions really a bargain. Seriously those land value increased besides stations already covered the cost.
China and Russia are both great countries that respect their partnership with their allies but western countries are just stealing from its allies.
Indonesia is going to be a very great country in the near future.
If it aligns with the West and not totalitarian communists.
There is a Chinese proverb: what you don't want to encounter, you don't want others to encounter. There is also a proverb in China: If you want to be rich, build roads first. The development model of the Chinese people is: let everyone achieve happiness, then there will be no confrontation in the world. This is the wisdom that China can live for 5000 years.
But china claim and aggressive move in SCS make our neighbors jittery that could escalate into confrontation
@@daddycool1940 This is just your imagination, not the fact. China has not invaded any country.
@@stevenxliu it's a fact. China claim Spratly islands as it's territory which claim by Malaysia, Philippines, and Vietnam as well.
China build military bases in part of Spratly islands. I consider that as a threat.
Confucius say: Communist China is unscrupulous. Eat with silverware not bamboo.
WOW WOW WOW !!!
Terimakasih kami ucapkan kepada Presiden Cina.... sudah baik sekali
$2 billion over its initial budget? in india, by the time india japanese bullet train project finished in 2028, it will double its initial construction cost and 8 years behind its initial completion project schedule.
If China does not provide the export of heavy equipment, the cost of this railway may double. So Indian railway construction still depends on China.
It's not gonna finish even 50% by 2028😂😂
I bet it won't even finish by 2040
At the same time, Japan's budget for building high-speed rail for India has increased from the initial 1.8 trillion yen to 2.5 trillion yen, an increase of nearly 40%.And more importantly, Japan has only built 10 kilometers of high-speed rail in the past five years, and construction costs will continue to increase wildly. Hope India can survive such a debt trap.
The interest rate for loans in China is 2%, while the interest rate for loans in Western countries are 5% or more.
@@ChinaStats But still, they should choose western loans, because they are democratic
off course
In my country, North Korea, there is a Beijing -Pyongyang HSR joint project . It will start next year. Love from Kyongwon!!!
there is no such thing.
Is internet available to common people in North Korea.
@@SouthRoyal Maybe he is in another country, but as a China-North Korea hsr project, it is currently impossible. Let's look back the China-North Korea Yalu River New Bridge, which was independently funded by China with 2.2 billion yuan. China completed the project on time, The North Korean only needs to connect their road on the North Korean side. They can't even do it, and find various reasons to refuse to implement the agreement, so far the bridge is considered to be open to traffic. And now, about the high-speed rail, Chinese will not take it seriously anymore, let's forget it.
@@gainner5982 i think theres already a freight train line running between china-north korea, i know north korea is open to chinese tourist before the pandemic and closed atm. i heard they have electrified rail line in north korea already , just not sure if they have enough electricity to keep the line powered.
@@redhongkong There have always been freight trains and passenger trains between China and North Korea, operating on the old railways. The topic mentioned above is about high-speed rail.
Now days in China, it is not uncommon to live in one city and work at neighbor city through HSR, having metro direct link to HSR.
USA spends more on highways that clog up in less time than it took to build them
Fantastic project! ✨️ 👍 🇮🇩 🤝🇨🇳
I am from.indonesia and now i am living in mars , Miss the earth🥳
Indonesian leader has far more smart vision than Vietnam and India on High Speed Rail to choose Chinese technology.
Al Jazeera: Criticism about cost overruns.
Me: Laughs in HS2 and California High Speed Rail
How much is it?
Indonesia🇮🇩
The Western countries cannot offer a developing countries such a project all you can do is weapons and waging war's
Yea, f*ck western countries, may they d*e in their own made wars.
Waging war is historically very profitable.
future indonesia shinkansen
Cutting a 3 hour journey to just 50 minutes
Indonesia is the big country in the word and the biggers market in the word.
আমি আশা করি মুসলমান দেশ হিসাবে ইন্দোনেশিয়া অনেক এগিয়ে যাবে ইনশাআল্লাহ 🇧🇩🇮🇩🥰
Noo
@@ViratKohli-wy2sk Rendia kutta sale 😅😄
Salam dari indonesia
Japan and China compete to win this project. But then Indonesia decided to choose china
The reason is simple.
Not only China willing to fund alot of money despite only have 40% of the share, china also willing to transfer the technology on how to build and maintain HSR to Indonesian government
Transfer of technology is important, because if the construction of Jakarta-Bandung HSR is success, Indonesian government will be more confident in constructing another HSR in the future without the help of foreign investor.
This is not strange why China willing to share the technology to Indonesia. Because Indonesia and China already in good relationship even before the first indonesian kingdom that become chain link of modern Indonesian civilization even exist, which is the Kingdom of Kutai Kertanegara that born in 5th century AD
Ini komentar cerdas,,,,
Indonesia amazing today 😎
I heard that China lends 70% and the bid is much cheaper than Japan.
These projects are very difficult to recover capital. If a train line serves 50 million people, it will be effective.
public transportation is NOT to make profit by itself. It is to benefit the people using it. In China railway contributes to economy much more than its debt.
@@dukai2004 I do not deny its benefits, but to use it effectively and reduce losses as much as possible is still the problem. You know, China has mastered construction technology and high-speed trains, they have the transportation needs of more than a billion people and a large amount of goods, but they are still at a loss.
It will become a burden if not exploited enough.
Its operating and maintenance costs are very high.
hope indonesia will use it thoroughly, and most effectively.
no its vice versa actually japans bids 5,5 billion USD while china lends for 6 billion dollar with transfer technology while japan dont
whatever！ Indonesia got the train and tech on its land and people …
Does that guy know that good infrastructure is key to poverty alleviation?
half of people in indonesia don't know about that
Not when u r putting country in a China's debt trap next news will be indonesia couldn't pay back China's loan and china takeover indonesia ports
@@anandsuralkar2947 so, what's the solution? IMF DEBT TRAP AGAIN? USA DEBT TRAP AGAIN? HECK NO
Indonesia save/peace/comfortable,,, ekonomi grow up
Only fools complain about the cost. The benefits outweigh the cost because this train will contribute to poverty alleviation.
Well fools and NGO`s financed from Washington.
greeting from china🇨🇳🇮🇩❤
I prefer China debt trap than USA Europe debt trap
war debt trap
中国无意为任何国家设置债务陷阱。甚至这个名称都是西方杜撰出来妖魔化中国的。真正聪明的国家和人民能看清事情的真相。
IMF debt trap lmao
You just found 49% debt of PDB and 5% Grow is healthy country
@@Kalle01 wdym?
edit: what point you are trying to tell?
We are still testing right now, the trial trains are already on the rail testing the tracks.
And California is still behind
California's real rival is Cambodia. Although Cambodia doesn't have any high-speed rail plans yet, I think Cambodia will have high-speed rail earlier.
@@pptskills hmm: let’s who wins first 😅
California has the fifth largest economy in the whole wide world with a population of a mere 39 million. California is leading in Pandemic and Fentanyl deaths thanks to unscrupulous China.