Its important to note that , many people play this game purely for its singleplayer and that the multiplayer has had a rocky start for a few these days. Perhaps what we saw in those stats there is more kills with trebuchets due to campaign missions , than double boar lures in dark age.
this reminds me of a conversation I was having with my friend the other day, he was talking about the DE achievements and how I went out of my way to get the "dark dinner" one, meanwhile I was just "but dude, getting both boars is a must lol"
@@codesuzakugeass If I'm not mistaken in most build orders you have at least one or two on wood before you lure the first boar. All you have to do is make the wood vill build a house, if you watch yourself you won't be housed.
Jokes, Timestamps, accurate information, several degrees of difficulty from the novice to more advanced. You my good sir got a new sub! I've already watched several of your videos but this once made me sub. Keep it up! I was doubtful if I really wanted to buy the definitive edition, but these kind of videos made my decision easier! It's a great feeling being able to look back at a game that I played so much when I was younger and was "easy" back then, being revealed to have so much more depth.. It's great!
The biggest thing I think you missed in the beginning is "When should you take your boar" and also "how to time your boar with your sheep", but other than that great vid
@@apple-on5pq im not a pro, but why on earth would you use berries when there are deer? isnt it more useful to skip berrys until feudal and take deer with more villagers and make use of the higher collectionrate?
After more than 10 year I'm thinking about picking AOE again thanks to your videos. I remember learning about the competitive scene by watching replay files at the time, youtube didn't even exist
First time I built a treb I realized I could snipe villagers my enemy (AI) had mining gold with one behind some trees and decided to have some fun by leaving it there doing his thing while I boomed to see how it would react. After a while I just got the achievement and proceeded to laugh my ass off.
I have probably actually killed many more than 25 units with trebs but in HD edition. I have barely played Definitive Edition and yet have that achievement. I agree that it looks bugged.
Once I watched the Pros do this; clicking up to the Feudal Age has never been faster! Thanks for the tips T90, TheViper, and ZeroEmpires! Happy hunting!
HONESTLY. I always do boar in the feudal age. Sheep is for the dark age boar and deer for the next age. UNLESS their is a boar very close to my town center during the start, i mean REALLY CLOSE where no luring has to be done pretty much.
AoE2 authors "In this work, we conjecture that the rise and and fall of medieval civilizations may have been due to a paesant failing in luring a boar in town. We support our argument with a computer simulation."
If you time the lure right before finishing the 4th sheep, you can shift click the villagers under the TC to the boar, and they will start attacking as soon they finish the sheep. No need for fancy control group micro.
Another thing worth mentioning is screwing up your opponents boar lure with your scout. If you manage to make your scout last hit the boar, they get nothing. If you manage to block the luring villager, it will disrupt their lure and kill their villager. If you manage to take their boar, you can scout lure it from their base to yours. Pretty much no matter what you do to mess up their boar situation, it hurts them significantly.
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We're grateful to you president ZeroEmpires, for making real the election promises at 21:48
Wowie, I was already doing the teenager strategy, with the sheep gathering and one at a time technique. I just figured it'd be most efficient, and I'm super new :o The expert level doesn't look too difficult with the garrison to minimize food loss. I'll try it out!
if you attack the boar twice to lure it wont change aggro when you get it back to the TC so you wont run the risk of losing a low health villager to the boar (unless your lure villager is low because of distance or mistakes)
I feel like if this were a sotl video he would have mentioned the gothic and Aztec resource carry bonuses as well... if there hadn't been so many claims that the beginning about this being the most complete and definitive video ever on the subject I would not have expected bonuses like that to be mentioned quite as much, but the standard was set pretty high by the intro. Also, the berbers villager speed bonus means they can lure these animals farther... Just saying, I feel like there was even more completeness that could have happened here. Overall, this was an amazing video and there was a lot of detail I did not expect as well! Great job, ZE
Extra note on the goths, the extra carry weight for hunters makes the numbers work out so 7 hunters can carry a full boar, so even if you kill it off your town center decay won't be a problem, only the walk distance (in theory you could send 7 vils forward and lame your opponent, but that would be costly)
If you dont want to lose a villager just set gather point near the boar und then attack it and you can directly move back to your tc. So you wont forget.
Some people play the campaign where you get too use trebs but not be in the dark age. Therefore can’t get this achievement. So far I have finished the Spanish and french campaigns and am now working on Barbarossa.
actually if you start playing the campaigns you get the treb achievment really fast, but you never really have to go for boars. They are mostly multiplayer (i played through 2 campaigns and didnt need to hunt for boars, but needed trebs, according to my achievments)
I must say, I have got the 25 kills with trebuchets but not the 2 boars one. Reason is because of the campaign, in the campaign that I played you barely ever had vills.
Did you know if you format the description timestamps in MM:SS and include 00:00 first (named eg "Introduction"), the timestamps will automatically mark the playback timeline on youtube?
Very good video. There are many videos with tips to play better, but in the common game, playing in the standard way. However what would be the best way to play and the best order to build in Regicide mode? I love to play this mode with friends. Can you make a video to help me?
Hunting Boars instead of good ol farming? i'm sorry is this some sort of peasant joke that i'm too Teuton to understand? *continues to furiously build farms*
I actually have that achievement on Steam And i have an whole of 3 Games in MP as Bulgarians rushing Man at Arms after 15 Villagers And thoose were my first AoE MP games ever...i guess just most people tend to play AoE casualy?
Another trick to this is when you're luring the boar or other animals. Hit the animal twice with the same villager and they will aggro all the way back to your base without stopping from losing aggro. You can then use the scout to block its path and it wont lose its aggro.
not necessary in the definitive edition for villagers. It IS, however, still necessary when using any other unit (like your scout that wants to lame a boar)
How are the statistics calculated exactly? For example, do rhinos and elephants count as boars? If not, then is that 25% calculated only out of the players who had at least two boars in the game near their TC-s in the Dark Age? What is the minimum amount of food you need to get from a boar for it to be considered "eaten" (or if it runs out of food, does it count as "eaten"?)? There are other questions as well.
Question: Is it worth hunting the extra clusters of boar on Black Forest? They're usually in groups of three and far enough away that you have to mill them. Seems obvious if you're Mongols or Goths; not sure about everyone else.
Could be because they play the Campaign where there aren't any boars laying around yet there's plenty of maps you can use a trebuchet. I don't quite recall there being many boars where an established farm isn't already present.
I object! The math at 17:45 is incomplete!! To lure your boar, you need to take a village off your 5-6 starting villagers. This reduces your mining speed for - let's say 30 seconds to by about 20%. If you factor that in, into the 0.41 gather rate - then it gets complicated. However, let's work wit the simple timings you provide for 8 villages at 17:35. 4 villagers should then be able to gather half that amount in the same time, right? So factoring in that one villager is missing for luring the boar for the assumed 30 seconds, we will need to reduce the base gather speed of 0.41 by: 0.41 * ((3 [villagers] / 4 [all villagers] * 2:41 [minutes]) + (1 [villagers] / 4 [all villagers] * 2:11 [minutes])) / 2:41 [minutes] = 0.41 [gatherrate] * 95% = 0.39 gatherrate per villager In case you have more villagers, it gets more efficient, like, for example for 8 villagers, you get an effective gather-rate of: 0.41 * 0.98 = 0.40 gatherrate Bottom line: Do not take your boar right at the beginning of the match, but a few minutes in --- Duh! ;-)
There needs to be an entire video on how to overcome goldfish memory. I can micro and strategize like a pro but I'm still a noob because of absentmindedness
HAHAHA Not as in I'm laughing, just the hotkeys town centre and make villager each. So any time I think shit what should I be thinking about, I check vills are being made and keeps a bit of rythmn
Hey sheep, why are you queuing up like that? Sheep: "oh we are simply waiting for the villagers to finish with the boar, so that we can be led to slaughter one by one."
If you have about 10 villagers after taking the sheep, another idea would be to send them over to take the boar and then they will come back with all the food...
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The only reason I now consistently eat two boars every game is because my dad used to yell at me for skipping them.
LOL, been there
Dad teaching the important lessons in life.
"Remember to eat your pork, son"
Raising them right
That is how you know he cares
"The most BOARing video" Sotl:
Finally a worthy oponent
I would really like to see a LAME video!
Its important to note that , many people play this game purely for its singleplayer and that the multiplayer has had a rocky start for a few these days. Perhaps what we saw in those stats there is more kills with trebuchets due to campaign missions , than double boar lures in dark age.
"Never skip a boar."
-Obelix
Yessss!!
Here were all were thinking Zak was a refined, respectful Englishman - but in reality he loves nothing moar than to lame your boar
I did it for science ;)
@@ZeroEmpires "Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should."
@@jayrafael109 xD
2019 almost 2020 and new people is coming to one of my childhood favourite game.
Thanks for the vid english man...
Classic games are like classic rock, they join generations.
Bacon is the most important resource in AOE.
Imagine your ancestor whatching this video who actually killed a wild boar.
My ancestors smile upon me Imperial, can you say that same?
And then your ancestor asks you if you have been to the cloud district very often, what am I saying of course you don't.
*Ulfric Stormcloak 2020*
Keep Skyrim Great!
Especially the ones that hunted boars with only a knife.
imagine you as modern day hunter getting killed by a wild boar :3
this reminds me of a conversation I was having with my friend the other day, he was talking about the DE achievements and how I went out of my way to get the "dark dinner" one, meanwhile I was just "but dude, getting both boars is a must lol"
I didn't realize I was in the upper quartile of something, neat.
Not necessarily. You are just not in the bottom quartile :)
@@DhruvKhoslaDK Only 25% of people do the right thing and I think he meant he did that right, so he is right.
the game has more than 25mil. downloads, so u one of 6.5mil. 😅
congrat 👏
Way back when I was playing Age of Kings on CD I never hunted boar , I always got my sheep and happily went to berries lol.
We all did back then. Unless there were 3 boars together on black forest. And then we would mill them lol
I think most players back then kill boar as part of the route. sheeps>boars>deers&berries>farms
Cheese steak jimmy's
4:05 biggest tip here: don't be a zeroempire and forget the villager production while you hunt down a boar ;)
100% I wasn't training villagers in the majority of the clips because that wasn't the focus :P
Not to mention, they will get housed most likely.
@@codesuzakugeass If I'm not mistaken in most build orders you have at least one or two on wood before you lure the first boar. All you have to do is make the wood vill build a house, if you watch yourself you won't be housed.
Jokes, Timestamps, accurate information, several degrees of difficulty from the novice to more advanced. You my good sir got a new sub! I've already watched several of your videos but this once made me sub. Keep it up!
I was doubtful if I really wanted to buy the definitive edition, but these kind of videos made my decision easier! It's a great feeling being able to look back at a game that I played so much when I was younger and was "easy" back then, being revealed to have so much more depth.. It's great!
Watched the entire thing in one go. It wasn't lame or boaring at any point.
We're all comedians.
I am on board with this evolution of yours Zero.
on boar.d
I NEVER KNEW BOARS WERE SO NECESSARY. IT TOOK ME OVER A DECADE TO DO IT. Thank you!
More importantly than boar i learned how to effectively scout using control groups
-A noob who plays against bots
SHIGARU do not use the map, oh god oh no.
@@hexon6956 Why not? sry im noob!
Kakwann you miss so many resources by sending the scout over the world instead of scouting around yourself first.
Omg you said "sow" instead of "so"
Perfect.
This is a usage of sow that rivals Yahtzee's Hogpocalpyse Sow game title.
The content quality impressed me, great job
One less thing to learn on my way to the top :)
I laughed. For sure, yer on yer way.
The biggest thing I think you missed in the beginning is "When should you take your boar" and also "how to time your boar with your sheep", but other than that great vid
when you about to finish the sheep then take on the boars, after that send 2 villagers to kill deers and the rest to pick the berry bush.
@@apple-on5pq im not a pro, but why on earth would you use berries when there are deer? isnt it more useful to skip berrys until feudal and take deer with more villagers and make use of the higher collectionrate?
After more than 10 year I'm thinking about picking AOE again thanks to your videos. I remember learning about the competitive scene by watching replay files at the time, youtube didn't even exist
you should try the Brand new Definitive edition, there is so much new stuff in AOE II in the recent years
will do
Those stealth puns in this video. I'm surprised someone hasn't made a comprehensive list of them
In the defense of the players getting the Treb achievement, I seem to have gotten it from simply killing 25 buildings. I think it may be bugged.
Im sure I have not killed 25 units with trebs. But I got it
First time I built a treb I realized I could snipe villagers my enemy (AI) had mining gold with one behind some trees and decided to have some fun by leaving it there doing his thing while I boomed to see how it would react. After a while I just got the achievement and proceeded to laugh my ass off.
I have probably actually killed many more than 25 units with trebs but in HD edition. I have barely played Definitive Edition and yet have that achievement. I agree that it looks bugged.
Once I watched the Pros do this; clicking up to the Feudal Age has never been faster! Thanks for the tips T90, TheViper, and ZeroEmpires! Happy hunting!
This is exactly the depth and style of information I was looking for, thank you!!
"I no pig." (looks at tumbler of scotch in hand, then puts it down on the table) "But maybe it's time I did!"
HONESTLY. I always do boar in the feudal age. Sheep is for the dark age boar and deer for the next age. UNLESS their is a boar very close to my town center during the start, i mean REALLY CLOSE where no luring has to be done pretty much.
AoE2 authors "In this work, we conjecture that the rise and and fall of medieval civilizations may have been due to a paesant failing in luring a boar in town. We support our argument with a computer simulation."
This is a like a AoE textbook containing valuable information , good work!
an AoE textbook in a flawless british accent. :3
This game is so good. I'm so pleased they made DE.
What do I do if 30-50 of them come into my town when I let the villagers play for 5 to 10 minutes?
Respect to you sharing all this awesome info. AOE2 is such an amazing game and now you just made it more amazing for me, thanks dude!!!
If you time the lure right before finishing the 4th sheep, you can shift click the villagers under the TC to the boar, and they will start attacking as soon they finish the sheep. No need for fancy control group micro.
I recently got into this game and I love your videos! Very entertaining and helpful. Please keep making more noob videos for people like me 😁
Another thing worth mentioning is screwing up your opponents boar lure with your scout. If you manage to make your scout last hit the boar, they get nothing. If you manage to block the luring villager, it will disrupt their lure and kill their villager.
If you manage to take their boar, you can scout lure it from their base to yours. Pretty much no matter what you do to mess up their boar situation, it hurts them significantly.
We're grateful to you president ZeroEmpires, for making real the election promises at 21:48
Wowie, I was already doing the teenager strategy, with the sheep gathering and one at a time technique. I just figured it'd be most efficient, and I'm super new :o
The expert level doesn't look too difficult with the garrison to minimize food loss. I'll try it out!
The long awaited bore tutorial video, hazzuh!!!!
"It will die so hard" you made me spew my coffee.
I'm starting AOE 2 DE because of you, ty.
Continue your guide bro you're so good at it and there is so much new players with DE (like me)
When you want to hunt boars but are afraid of it:
*"Go skinning this one, I'll bring another"*
Love the amount of effort put into this! thank you for doing this, really great for new players and thus for the community! Thank you again :D
12:04 the worst boar lure in history?
A contender for sure, poor Nova
your mom
6:29 "The boar will die. And by that I mean it will die so hard that it won't actually have any food in it"
Fun fact: Goldfishes remember things much longer than people letting villagers die to a boar.
Dude I am a non-native English speaker but your voice is magical, awesome, fascinating!
That's nice to hear! I hate the sound of my own voice 11
woooow.. this video solved so many of my problems.. "where da thonk is my scout?" - "Oh damn it, now I told the sheep to attack the boar again" hahaha
Well... that was my first achievement in the game. An old, someone will say all- know-trick, it's always useful.
if you attack the boar twice to lure it wont change aggro when you get it back to the TC so you wont run the risk of losing a low health villager to the boar (unless your lure villager is low because of distance or mistakes)
I feel like if this were a sotl video he would have mentioned the gothic and Aztec resource carry bonuses as well... if there hadn't been so many claims that the beginning about this being the most complete and definitive video ever on the subject I would not have expected bonuses like that to be mentioned quite as much, but the standard was set pretty high by the intro. Also, the berbers villager speed bonus means they can lure these animals farther... Just saying, I feel like there was even more completeness that could have happened here. Overall, this was an amazing video and there was a lot of detail I did not expect as well! Great job, ZE
Nice work, Zac.
Here, have a like and a comment! ^^,
Thanks!
What about Berbers? Their faster vills usually don't get by a boar at all
Why am I even watching this? I only play bots and on regicide.
Still got boars 🐗
For starters, farming is always preceded by hunting-gathering. With that, you will save a lot of resources in the long run.
Extra note on the goths, the extra carry weight for hunters makes the numbers work out so 7 hunters can carry a full boar, so even if you kill it off your town center decay won't be a problem, only the walk distance (in theory you could send 7 vils forward and lame your opponent, but that would be costly)
no, it IS still a problem, at least for the first boar, as you will usually have to force drop at least once in order to maintain villager production.
What was funny was that I got this achievement day one simply by doing what was suggested in the Art of War missions! ^^
Lmao how that one vill farming berries said "Im looking for tristan"
Pls help him find t90
Wait the referenced t90 in actual gameplay, he's famous now
no.... youre looking gay...
19:05 I wonder if those villagers have found any juicy T-Berries in those bushes.
"try not to have the memory of a goldfish!" I may have a bad memory, but even I...
If you dont want to lose a villager just set gather point near the boar und then attack it and you can directly move back to your tc. So you wont forget.
Great video - funny and informative, 1.9k video :D WP Zak
Some people play the campaign where you get too use trebs but not be in the dark age. Therefore can’t get this achievement. So far I have finished the Spanish and french campaigns and am now working on Barbarossa.
Today i'm going to teach you how to lure the boar.
*proceeds to teach how not to loose food*
dude you're exceeding our expectations here !
actually if you start playing the campaigns you get the treb achievment really fast, but you never really have to go for boars. They are mostly multiplayer (i played through 2 campaigns and didnt need to hunt for boars, but needed trebs, according to my achievments)
I must say, I have got the 25 kills with trebuchets but not the 2 boars one. Reason is because of the campaign, in the campaign that I played you barely ever had vills.
can we jsut appreciate all the detail that went in to the hunt life in AOE 2
I need a whole series on HOW TO PLAY! jUST like there were at the start of starcraft 2
I don't play AoE2 but I found these tips to be useful even for everyday life
Did you know if you format the description timestamps in MM:SS and include 00:00 first (named eg "Introduction"), the timestamps will automatically mark the playback timeline on youtube?
as of this time 34.5% have the achievement dark dinner. You are doing gods work sir
Oh boy, we've come a long way. To be fair, though, my villager in the clip went back on his own (pathing strikes back).
bjutiful disaster
The thing I don't understand is why take bushes while there is food rotting on the ground (boars/sheep)
If you can scout push deer especially
Very good video.
There are many videos with tips to play better, but in the common game, playing in the standard way.
However what would be the best way to play and the best order to build in Regicide mode?
I love to play this mode with friends. Can you make a video to help me?
Hunting Boars instead of good ol farming?
i'm sorry is this some sort of peasant joke that i'm too Teuton to understand?
*continues to furiously build farms*
Avin lol how Boar.ing
maaaan.... the fisher woman animation is so fucking cool. i love what they did.
Until I started watching streams I would always go sheep - berries - farms.
Then you lost in ranked
I actually have that achievement on Steam
And i have an whole of 3 Games in MP as Bulgarians rushing Man at Arms after 15 Villagers
And thoose were my first AoE MP games ever...i guess just most people tend to play AoE casualy?
that outraged "LaMER!!!" feeds my soul
I'm outraged by your homosexuality...
Another trick to this is when you're luring the boar or other animals. Hit the animal twice with the same villager and they will aggro all the way back to your base without stopping from losing aggro. You can then use the scout to block its path and it wont lose its aggro.
not necessary in the definitive edition for villagers. It IS, however, still necessary when using any other unit (like your scout that wants to lame a boar)
How are the statistics calculated exactly? For example, do rhinos and elephants count as boars? If not, then is that 25% calculated only out of the players who had at least two boars in the game near their TC-s in the Dark Age? What is the minimum amount of food you need to get from a boar for it to be considered "eaten" (or if it runs out of food, does it count as "eaten"?)? There are other questions as well.
Question: Is it worth hunting the extra clusters of boar on Black Forest? They're usually in groups of three and far enough away that you have to mill them. Seems obvious if you're Mongols or Goths; not sure about everyone else.
You actually get the trebuchet achievement from just playing campaigns much faster than you would the boar one
Instructions unclear... Lured boar to enemy... Boar rushed him to death... Game is too ez
Thank you for this video , I am now beating Viper and Daut 1v2
Could be because they play the Campaign where there aren't any boars laying around yet there's plenty of maps you can use a trebuchet.
I don't quite recall there being many boars where an established farm isn't already present.
Absolutely correct, I just thought that this would make a better title than trying to fit all that in though 11
Actually, expert level is *now* luring boar, and shooting boar with TC.
(If Zak is anytime going to come back to his YT channel or even this video)
I'm so happy I got this achievement when only 0.7% of players had it
Best boars with a video in it. Amazing.
If there's a sheep nearby I just have it follow behind the vill back to the tc. The boar never catches the vill
I object! The math at 17:45 is incomplete!! To lure your boar, you need to take a village off your 5-6 starting villagers. This reduces your mining speed for - let's say 30 seconds to by about 20%. If you factor that in, into the 0.41 gather rate - then it gets complicated. However, let's work wit the simple timings you provide for 8 villages at 17:35. 4 villagers should then be able to gather half that amount in the same time, right? So factoring in that one villager is missing for luring the boar for the assumed 30 seconds, we will need to reduce the base gather speed of 0.41 by:
0.41 * ((3 [villagers] / 4 [all villagers] * 2:41 [minutes]) + (1 [villagers] / 4 [all villagers] * 2:11 [minutes])) / 2:41 [minutes] = 0.41 [gatherrate] * 95% = 0.39 gatherrate per villager
In case you have more villagers, it gets more efficient, like, for example for 8 villagers, you get an effective gather-rate of:
0.41 * 0.98 = 0.40 gatherrate
Bottom line: Do not take your boar right at the beginning of the match, but a few minutes in --- Duh! ;-)
Hats off to u man!! What a detailed video👍🙏🙏🙏
8:06 Sometimes I have the feeling boars hide intentionally in those black spots
There needs to be an entire video on how to overcome goldfish memory. I can micro and strategize like a pro but I'm still a noob because of absentmindedness
HAHAHA
Not as in I'm laughing, just the hotkeys town centre and make villager each. So any time I think shit what should I be thinking about, I check vills are being made and keeps a bit of rythmn
Age of Empires : So easy to pick up and play. Really Really Hard to master. I love this Game
Hey sheep, why are you queuing up like that?
Sheep: "oh we are simply waiting for the villagers to finish with the boar, so that we can be led to slaughter one by one."
If you have about 10 villagers after taking the sheep, another idea would be to send them over to take the boar and then they will come back with all the food...
It sounded like you were constantly making references to stuff and I only understood like 1 in 5 jokes 11. Cheers for the informative video tho ^^
Finally! Keep going mate