Which Country had the Most Effective Fighter Planes in World War 2?
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- Опубликовано: 8 май 2024
- In today's Episode, we're delving into the realm of war time aviation, and taking a look specifically at the best fighters of World War 2, and which one WE think reigned supreme.
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Chapters
0:00 Introduction
0:52 Mitsubishi A6M Zero - Japan
2:01 Messerschmitt Bf 109 - Germany
3:13 Focke-Wulf Fw-190 - Germany
4:10 Yakovlev Yak-3 - Soviet Union
5:09 Supermarine Spitfire - Great Britain
5:57 Btw, I'm not British
6:05 Chance Vought F4U Corsair - United States
6:57 Republic P-47 Thunderbolt - United States
7:54 North American P-51 Mustang - United States
8:36 Lockheed P-38 Lightning - United States
9:39 Vought V-173 Flying Pancake - United States
10:26 Conclusion - Which was the best?
What? No Mosquito? No Hellcat? I don't know who this guy thinks he is! I'm gonna give him a piece of my mind in his Discord server. Reeeeeeee!!! discord.com/invite/qt68efP
If your going to mention the battle of Britain you forgot to mention the hawker Hurricane just as important as the Spitfire according to many. And no Mosquito.
But generally not too bad of list
dont forget the wildcat and the buffalo
also the important ones like mosquito or hawker and hellcat
Wasn’t the hellcat torpedo bomber or just a bomber in general?
@@mechsgtpuma938
Mosquitos weren't effective because they constantly get shot down by bug spray.
@@grantgarrett3947 Nah it was just one of the most important fighters of the war, and arguably the most important fighter of the pacific theater
Imagine getting your blood line ended by a man named Dick Bong
I've smoked out of a dick bong. It was awkward.
Probably best to just admit “daddy was shot down over ___. He got struck by Lightning. The P38 kind, dear. Now hush up & run along.”
He did not live up to his name.. or so the ladies say
R.I.P. Tho....funny name, but serious Pilot ,and deserves respect. It was said he was one of the shy, quiet guys in his squadron ,but once in the air he became a tiger.
R.I.P. RICHARD IRA BONG
Old Dick Bongs never die. They just Dick away.
A British person here, during the war my farm had a runway for the P-47 thunderbolt, thought I would share this piece of info lol.
Really cool, if you find some significant things you can put up some nice places to rember great Britain involvement in the war. The bravery that Britain putted in the war is really outstanding.
Do u still have it?
@@gameplayer0534 I mean, did they really though? They betrayed their ally Poland and ran away ASAP as France was invaded.
@@Birdmaster92 France was invaded because the blitzkrieg technique works on land an was unstoppable. The English Channel saved the brits, they continued to fight against the raids of luftwaffe and eventually with the support of America they pulled the attack on D day.
@@gameplayer0534 The Blitzkrieg tactic wasnt unstoppable, during the invasion of france, the germans were not able to field heavy tanks until the maginot line was dealt with, the tanks the Germans did have access to were so small in caliber, that several of the French heavier tanks literally could not be penetrated from the front. The Main reason why France fell so swiftly was becasue the french nepotism, which got many people into higher ranks based on connections, rather than merit. The French military was superiour at the start of the war, they knew the Germans would be coming, after all France did declare the Phoney War after Germany invaded Poland. Poland fought valiantly and i have great respect for the Polish Soldiers, i would even go as far as calling them the best WW2 had to offer. But i cant muster any respect for the French or Brits, who abandoned Poland and broke their Alliance.
One thing you got slightly wrong: The Spitfire did not have a greater range than the BF109. The difference in the Battle of Britain was that the 109's were operating at their maximum ranges, far from their home bases, while the Spitfires (and Hurricanes) were operating right on top of theirs. BF109 pilots had to keep enough fuel to fly back to France, while the British and Commonwealth pilots only needed to keep the dregs of their tanks to make it back to base.
Yep, Hitler's arrogance lost him the Battle of Britain. Even the British admitted this in their 1969 movie. The Spitfire was a fine fighter though, and was easy to learn to fly, unlike the BF-109. Once German pilots became masters of the 109 though, they turned into absolute death machines.
This. When people look at stat cards only, they don't factor in any real life effects that something as simple as fuel load could have on a plane. Not to mention mental differences, such as Spitfire pilots being able to be more aggressive because if they have to ditch, they're ditching into friendly territory, whereas of German pilots had to ditch, they would be captured by the enemy.
So kill numbers and Stat cards are great and all, but they should not be the end all be all of arguments about which plane was better.
Even if Hitler had won the air battle, a naval invasion would have been impossible with Britain's gigantic navy.
Agree- the home ground advantage for Britain meant downed pilots could be rescued and return to action
@@averagefanenjoyer8696 If the Germans had managed to gain air superiority, they would have sunk each and every British ship that dared to go into the channel. The RAF well and truly saved Britain.
Thanks for putting the F4U Corsair on this list! Whenever great, WWII fighters are discussed, it's seldom mentioned. It's nice to see someone give this fine machine the respect it deserves.
Rates more of a mention than the Hellcat does. Yet the Hellcat shot down about five times as many aircraft.
I think it’s one of the coolest looking planes ever made. I want to get my pilots license one day and buy one.
@@alschbachb I wouldn't recommend flying the Corsair immediately after getting your PPL; after all, 2,000 hp is a mighty big jump from 180-200 hp!
Had the best kill loss ratio of any us aircraft iirc. Superior to the f6f for sure.
My grandpa destroyed 40 nazi aircraft during ww2...
He was the worst mechanic in the Luftwaffe .
I just saw this comment from the other vids
@@ValBoon997 It's an old joke, yes. But still going strong lol
First time I've seen it.. So thanks for a cheap laugh 😅😂
Good thing he is or else the nazis might won
Da doom, phssst. That's a drummer doing a punchline drum lick.
Actually the Hawker Hurricane was the real hero of the Battle of Britain.
They had the numbers and ease of manufacture to make the bigger difference. Also, with their role being largely to attack bomber formations, while Spitfires were often saved for swatting off escorts, I'm sure many chaps on the ground would've appreciated the Hurricane's role a bit more lol
They did all the drudgery...i.e. shooting down Heinkels and Dorniers, but if it wasn't for the Spitfire, the ME-109 Emil would have not allowed them to get to the bombers. The Emil was superior in every regard to the Huricane, and if the Spitfire hadn't been there, th Hurricanes would have been butchered.
@@billrhodes5603 Tell that to the Poles of 303 sqdn. the highest scoring squadron of the Battle of Britain. They shot down bombers AND fighters and yes, they flew the all too frequently forgotten and underestimated Hurricane.
@@TheRunereaper I was going to add; "And flown by Polish pilots"
Every time someone dares mention the word 'spitfire' in a video nano seconds later someone will always pipe up 'Ah but the Hurricane shot down more etc etc. Every time , and I mean EVERY time. And then someone else will add about the Polish pilots even if the original video had nothing to do with hurricanes or the Polish pilots or even the battle of Britain. We know. They know, we ALL know. Chill dude.
My father in law was carrier based during WW2 and the Korean war, he swore by the Corsair and spoke highly of the P38.
Truth be told, I love the messer. If I had to go out in a plane during the war, it wouldn't be under Goering but it'd still be in a 109.
That said your inlaw was right. If you go by "What was the last prop driven plane to win a dogfight" then it was a Corsair flying for Honduras during the 100 Hour (football) War. Against P-51s.
Then you have that time 1 Corsair lost (but fought like hell) against 8 god damn MiG 15s in the Korean War. With half a wing missing.
You got several other instances of the Corsair just being the best god damn dogfighter & all-arounder, so it's not really an argument. It's just fact.
I do like the one thing the P-38 arguably has over the Corsair... The guns. Not how many or how big they are, but where they are: All bunched together right on the nose.
It'd be an exaggeration to say the lightning practically spat out a solid beam of lead.... But not much of one, either.
Also I really hate how this video didn't mention the P-39 / P-61 because that was pretty much the Soviet Union's best fighter for a long, long while.
And it had a 37mm cannon. On top of like 4 or 6 fiddies.
@@83j049733rfe4 very interesting of you to mention the p39. The US had no use for them because of their low altitude but the soviets loved it since low altitude was the rule in the eastern front (reason why LaGs and Yaks also performed best below 4km) and the plane was resilient, easy to maintain and could withstand the improvised runways thanks to its tricicle wheels.
LaG-5 and Yaks were good and eventually got incredible but for a while the soviets made extensive use of this very misunderstood aircraft.
Ensign eliminator...!
Although the P-38 had a rough design start with plenty of bugs, it was so fast and guns and cannon in the nose it was a very deadly, long range fighter. I read pilots eventually learned Not to try to dogfight, but to fight like jet pilots today. Come in fast, blow away your enemy, swing way around and come at them again. Although it could be hell to jump out of safety.
there were 24 versions of the spitfire in total. But I think the hurricane also deserved a spot on this list.
For sure. For every spitfire there were 10 hurricanes, and they were very effective at what they did.
Agreed. The Spitfire rightfully gets a lot of credit in the Battle Of Britain but the Hurricane gets ignored a lot. Sad, because it was excellent.
I seen one at a airshow.. INCREDIBLE
The Hurricane was a Tank in the air. It could get all shot up and still kick ass.
@@tjrich9349 seen one at a air show it was CRAZY
Later in the war, when the Germans had lost all their experienced pilots, kill ratios (such as against the Yak) can be a little misleading.
At least East front was the most fair. Soviets had a low alt tactics and built many low flying Il2 to destroy german tanks. So you have many low level dancing fights. When americans attacked Germany, there were no enough pilots, not enough fuel, low numbers of new superprops and jets. Americans had much greater numbers, hellish high alt bombers and its a no go from there. Its irony that Soviets destroyed german best pilots, put the focus of germans to low level fighting... just to get high alt americans take all the "awards" thinking their P51 is the best plane of the war. Which was horseshit.
@@unwokeneuropean3590 what's wrong with the P51D Mustang it's actually the best of both worlds has the British Merlin engine and great American construction. Also 6 50 cal machine guns.
@@unwokeneuropean3590 No! Soviets did NOT destroy the best German pilots, Western Allies did. Of the top 100 German aces, just SIX were killed in combat with Soviet fighters. So it is your comment that is more of a "horseshit" than anything else.
@@ayadav77 The Soviets were Allies. Get your facts straight.
@@ChakatBlackstar My mistake, I was talking about the western allies. I guess not everyone is smart enough to infer that according to the context so I need to specifically spell that out so that there is no confusion. Thanks!
A note of interest. The last combat of two WWII aircraft was the Corsair and Mustang in '68 during the Soccer War between Honduras and El Salvador . Mustang belonged to Honduras and Corsair to El Salvador. The Corsair had the edge on this one.
So many always forget about the man flying the plane. It is more pilot vs pilot than plane vs plane. The Corsair winning that fight means nothing in terms of which is a better plane. 1968 and between two central American countries, hahhahah come get real fool.
I have studied WW II for over 35 years, and I own about 30 WW II books, and just as many video documentaries. I would have to place the P-51 as the best, because it could do it all - dog fight, super range, escort, land attach. But more important than all of this, it changed the aerial was in the European theater completely, with P-51s flying over Berlin, and not just for a few minutes. I also wish to point out that all the American fighters you mentioned all flew over 400 mph, which was VERY uncommon in WW II.
Ya, but by the time the mustang gotten the Packerd (RR) engine, the Germans were putting in younger, untrained pilots, so that probably contributed to it's great record. Not that it wasn't a great plane, because it was, but Germany was also coming out with better aircraft, but no one to fly them
I’m still looking for the right movie that accurately displays the planes that were used. After the war, a lot of people don’t know that weapon engineering changed tremendously because of this worldly conflict.
"P38 best fighter."
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The Hellcat was credited with 5223 kills, more than any other Allied naval aircraft. It deserves a spot on this Top 10 list.
That was my first thought too.
Best planes were American and German. The P51 was amazing, best aerodynamics and a beast of an American engine. Best allied engine of the war.
@@nickmagee-brown739 I agree that American and German planes were the best in World War 2, but to be fair, the P51 Mustang used the Packard V-1650 Merlin engine that was a version based off of the British made Rolls-Royce Merlin aircraft engine. If you want to talk about an outstanding purely American made aircraft engine, one candidate for the best ever would be the Pratt & Whitney R-2800 Double Wasp that was used on the Hellcat, the Corsair, and the Thunderbolt.
Yup, I was going to say the same thing. From what I've read that was the plane they all wanted to fly when it first made the pacific scene. It destroyed the Zero.
@@nickmagee-brown739 that may be true but the Spitfire was the best looking!
Fun fact: During the war, when the allies started to run into German 262s, the P-47 was actually considered at one point to be turned into a turbojet powered fighter to help combat the 262s, called the Republic P-47 (Turbobolt)
Then it would have been another plane that would have been both fitted with either jet engines or piston engines like the Saab 21 and Saab 21R
@@Groza_Dallocort probably, but sadly, we will never know now.
Would work like yak-15 I guess
The hurricane was a brilliant bullet sponge as it could take lots of damage and the turnaround time to fix damage was so fast that they could have been back fighting before the end of the day.
Cannon shells (20mm), provided they didn't hit the frame could pass straight through a Hurricane without detonating
My grandad flew the P-38 is the Pacific. He considered it the best fighter of the war especially after he got an engine shot out by a Japanese cruiser on his way to Saigon. The P-38 having two engine got him home.
Cool bro
What was he doing going to Saigon may I ask?
if a ww2 plane crashed, it must have been really fucked up.
I read a story about that, the pilot had 5 zeros after him with one engine out, dudes weaving slightly because he's just in firing range, feathering the prop on the bad engine and fine tuning the good one he actually out ran all 5 zeros, it was late in the war and assumed the Japanese pilots had little training, a skilled zero pilot would have been able to better set the fuel mixture and caught the barely escaping P-38
German fighter pilots considered the P38 and the P47 a joke, both planes performed purely in Europe
Back in the mid to late 1980s, I managed a restaurant. We had a regular customer who flew a P-38 in the Pacific and knew Dick Bong. I can't recall that he ever had to pay for his breakfast after I found that out.
Oh man lucky you
Knew an old Corsair pilot posted in the Solomans during 44-45. He admitted that he not only never even saw a Japanese plane in flight and that it frustrated him that he couldn't even get a hut to catch fire. 😀😬🥴😏
I played doubles tennis with an ex US navy pilot. He said when he went ashore at Plymouth in UK, he never had to pay for any food or drink.......the bartenders would just say....."no you're alright mate"
The 2nd bast Ace pilot for the US, Thomas McGuire, also flew the P-38!
Sounds like my uncle, he taught Chuck Yeager to fly. He was a convincing liar, fooled many barmen.
Gotta hand it to those early airframes that stayed relevant throughout the war like the Bf 109, Spittfire, Hurrican. As a naval fighter i vote for Hellcat who was an evolution of the Wildcat. The Zero was probably obsolete as early as 1943.
Of course the Me 262 should also be on the list as the first operational jet fighter in history.
The Hellcat was most definitely not an evolution of the Wildcat. They look similar on the outside...very different on the inside.
The 262 was the first operational fighter to see combat, but the American P-59 Airacomet was in service with the USAAC as early as June 1943, despite it not being used in combat due to the price of each plane, being about 3 times as much as a Mustang
@@ElDoggo141 i don’t think the price had anything to do with it concidering the US huge war economy at the time. It was more likely the US goverment wanted to build tried and true planes to cut production time and mass produce as jets where new tech that hadn’t been proven yet. The germans gamled on superior tech like jets in order to tip the balance of the war. Obviously it didn’t work out for them.
I think the biggest advantage the allies had was that they had such a variety of planes , they could choose the plane that was best suited for the job at hand . Japan and Germany seemed to focus on a limited number of designs , expecting them to fill multiple roles
It is actually quite vice versa. The German had so many projects that they somewhat got lost and failed to concentrate on few models. For instance, they had not only propeller planes but actually three types of thrust: piston engines (Me Bf 109, Fw 190), jet engines (Me 262, Arado 234, He 162) and rocket engines (Me 163 Komet) at hand. The biggest advantage of the Allies was not their variety of models but the sheer numbers of their planes, which made mass attacks including 1000 bombers possible.
@@goldfing5898 I can see your point but they were putting all their research into new emerging tech instead of improvement of proven designs. Just look at the fighter planes , USA built the P-36 , 38, 39 , 40 , 47 , 51 , wildcat , Corsair and hellcat . Britain made spitfire , fast and agile to combat fighters and hurricane to go after bombers. And then beaufighter , which was devastating when there was no fighter escort . The typhoon and tempest along with many designs that were not developed.
I could not count how many different attack planes allies had , if there was a job then just choose the best machine for it . But the Luftwaffe had to keep plodding along with the ju87 and 88 for level bombers, diving , ground attack , anti shipping, recognizance even though it was outdated by 1939. Because there was nothing else and no designs on the way
In some areas Germany had way to much diversity. I think I recall that they had something like 480 different makes and models of motor transport because none of the manufacturers would agree to work together and standardize
When they took over other countries one of the first things was to turn captured firearms factories to making arms for germany . But they were not made to standard patterns so all armorers had to have stocks of each manufacturers parts
I have had some German wartime production rifles and the quality was better than most peacetime products from other countries, but in the field, having kar98s , some mg42s and hopefully a pac 38 , then seeing the multitude of what was pointed the other way must have seemed very lopsided to the German infantry
I think it was much the same for Luftwaffe
@@outinthesticks1035 Yes, they got bogged down especially during the last phase of the war, out of pure desperation (e.g. such crazy designs as the Bachem 349 Natter vertical take-off rocket interceptor, which was still tested during the last weeks in Feb and March 1945). But they also did some improvements to existing and proven designs, e.g. they developed the Fw 190 D (long-nose Dora) out of the Fw 190 A in late 1944, and, similar to the Spitfire, they continued to improve the Me Bf 109 (G and even K versions).
Admittedly, there was a great lack of designs regarding long-range bombers. This was a misconception at the start of WW II that the blitzkrieg would not last very long. Later, they realized that they would need a long-range "Amerika-Bomber" and thought of the Horten XVIII, which was of course way too late. In addition, they were (despite of some experiments) not able to develop a nuclear bomb, as opposed to the Americans. They had Peenemünde for rocket development but no Los Alamos.
@@goldfing5898 I'm rereading the comments , and realized I'm reinforcing some of what you say . There were so many allied planes that not much could be done . I recall that the defensive strategy to deal with the jets was to stack p-51s above the bombers and fire in the direction of the jets travel so there was just so much that some would hit .
I did run across the Dora , and it was a upgrade on the best platform they had , but as far as the 109 , they were reaching the limit of design. It was a contemporary of spitfire and they were both medium altitude, short range interceptors . And no amount of updates would change them to high altitude ,long range , heavy fighters . Britain saw the need and by the time of the invasion there were new planes coming off the assembly lines. USA already was thinking that way because they needed it to reach the Japanese , and I think the Brits had a advantage of technology transfer from the states
allied aircraft design was not hampered by government restrictions as much , I think I recall that both the hurricane and mosquito were private ventures that raf accepted after they had Been proven
When allies were in France then Germany pretty much lost the ability to strike Britain because they just didn't have planes that had the range
@@outinthesticks1035 Yes, I also consider the Fw 190 the much better design than the 109. This was the reason why in the end, the German air ministry gave priority to the Fw 190 in order to evolve a high altitude fighter. The intermediate stage was the Fw 190 D, but Kurt Tank then made the Ta 152 H out of it, which was even better. They saw that the B-17 Flying Fortress would be replaced by the B-29, operating at even higher altitudes, so there were plans for using pressure suits (as in the Gotha 229 jet) or even pressure chambers in the future, as well as ejection seats, which had been tested successfully e.g. in the He 219 Uhu. But time ran out, especially since fuel, airfields and good pilots were hardly available anymore.
“Two planes, one pilot”.
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Geet: *describing every plane as fast and agile*
War thunder players: "Are you sure about that?"
Especially American planes lmao
Ar-2 Dive bomber in Arcade Battles (i main AB because i only do RB with bombers) can out turn every single plane in the game and I'm not lying. I out turned a *biplane* alongside a Bf 109, a Spitfire and a Zero. That was epic
in war thunder im using the Whirlwind p.9 for British soon ill have the Spitfire F mk 24 6.7BR
War thunder is way too unrealistic, the p-51D-30 is pretty maneuverable and able to dogfight its way from a 109 k4, contrary from what Gaijin does. War Thunder is meant as an arcade game so don;t think what war thunder makes and all of their stats are correct, a lot of the stats have been modified to keep the game "balanced."
@@BionicDonut I waited months and months working my way up to that! Then never used it because every game had jets in it, looks sick as hell though :)
I am a P38 fan and love this fighter for its abilities and beauty. Dick Bong proved how advanced ti was and the Germans rightly feared it. BTW, I didn't realize the YAK 3 was so good.
To be far they didn't come out until the Germans were throwing janitors into their aircraft, so while an impressive record, it was against a very untrained adversary Edit: You could almost use the same argument for the mustangs impressive record too
@@jameskester7745 true. But also I think there was a French ace who said it handled better than any other plane. Even the luftwaffe told their pilots not to ever engage it below 5km
When you say that the Yak was more manuverable than the Mustang, that's a little misleading. The Mustang was optimized for high altitudes. At 25,000 feet and under half a tank of gas it was virtually unrivaled, you also have to remember that because there were no air to air missiles, turning fights were avoided whenever possible. Most of the ariel kills the P-51 had were from "boom and zoom". Where the mustang would ambush a german fighter from above and then extend away and climb. So in WW2 climb rate and an aircrafts top speed were often more important factors than turn rate/radius.
Turning fights became a more predominate factor in BFM when fighters were equiped with radar and missiles. So during Vietnam, that's why the light weight fighter program was started and why the US now has the F-16 and F/A-18. If you try the WW2 boom and zoom tactics today, when you extend away you're seriously at risk of eating a sidewinder or an amraam. So modern dogfights are all about staying out of the enemy aircrafts WEZ (weapon employment zone), which not only means outside of his nose but also close enough that a missile off the rails won't have enough room to turn.
The point of that little rant was to emphasize that turn rate and/or turn radius were not the most important factors when it came to fighters in WW2, it did matter.. but not always as important. the P-51 was predominately used for escorting so it sat above the bombers and wait to dive on enemy fighters.
So the pancake was the best fighter?
The Yak ranks more comparable to the Bell P-39
To add to your point, tactics were different between high and low altitudes. High altitude had the boom and zoom, whereas low altitude emphasized turning engagements. Hence each plane's emphasis on different aspects.
My grandfather flew in the p47 and the only reason he lived was due to the extreme survivability of the craft. On more than one occasion it brought him home against all odds.
That shot of the F4U flying close support for US Marines is outstanding.
Corsair is such a beautiful bird
The Corsair has the longest production run of any prop driven fighter that didn’t end until January of 1953. There is a good feature story in Air and Space Magazine July 2021 issue.
@@Chris_at_Home it and the Mustang faced off in Central America in the last all propeller driven air combat war....
@@aaronsanborn4291 That doesn’t surprise me. I went on a 4 month detachment in 1973 with 2 P-3 Orions were we did operations with South American Navies and the bases we went to were like air museums.
hey rabit guy why am I seeing you everywhere?
Well done, mate! Great vid!
If the Italians hadn't such a bad industry during the war, the sagittario would have propably been a very competitive plane, in fact some British pilots told that it was better than some spitfires during dogfights, but well, there were only 60 produced so it was kinda an event to fight one
They are always extra and grand when they produce something amazing
Its a early jet, i dont think it should be compared to prop planes.
@@ddoubleg He's talking about the other Sagittario. The one with a prop and was actually made during the war.
Also the G55 centauro
That "bomb" under the P-47 Thunderbolt you show was a drop tank. Bombs have rear fins; drop tanks don't.
I agree. it says everything about the "expertise" of jokers on youtube (like this channel )!
And then there’s the Pe-8 and it’s oil drum shaped car of a bomb
What's a dog tank
@@fluto6997 its somewhere to put your pooh bag.
@@fluto6997 drop tank is where extra fuel is held to increase range
The Hurricane shot down more enemy aircraft than the Spitfire, how could you leave it off.
It was numbers that made the Hurricane so important, especially early in the war. It was easier to build than the Spitfire, so more were built. However, it was not the better plane.
NO NO NO if you purely go of statistics of course its gonna have a higher aircraft shot down ratio first of all it was mainly used against slow flying bombers. 2nd it was slow every axis fighter out sped it. 3rd of all there were tons of them compared to the spitfires as they were way easier to produce and there were more factories making them. was the hurricane bad no but as a plane inferior. lots of spitfire and hurricane pilots said they always prayed that they would be told they would fly spitfire rather than fly the hurricane. alot of them felt the hurricane was more limited on what it could do comparatively. But should it have been on the list YES. If your gonna but the fw 109 and the bf 109 you have to include the hurricane
@@critical1645 Also, the production of the Hurricane ceased part way through the war. It was really a plane whose time had passed.
@@critical1645 But during the battle of Britain, where the hurricane was most influential, the spitfire was also slower than most bf 109.
dave harbour yes everyone thinks the spitfire won the battle of British but it didn’t
As an American, it's extremely hard to compare these all together. Each had their own strength's and weaknesses. While the P-51 with the RR engine was my fav, it's still hard to not put the Spitfire top of my list.
Thank you! I'm currently in the WWII era US planes tree on War thunder, you not only gave me confidence in my P-38s, but my P-47's and P-51s as well! And you told me exactly which other planes to not engage, lol
Fr bro. Also don’t turn fight bi-planes.
Hurricane actually played a more significant role in the Battle of Britain. Also as said before, no Mosquito!
The Hurricane though a good bit of kit and piloted by great men, was more numerous than the Spitfire, which is why it's overall numbers seem more significant. The Spitfire was clearly the superior fighter on a one to one basis. It was just harder to produce, which is why it was less numerous.
The Hurricane was in greater numbers during the BoB than the Spitfire as it entered service before the Spit. And the Hurricane tended to go for the bombers whilst the Spit went for the Fighters. The Hurricane could dogfight the 109, but due to how it was made, it was very susceptible to fire. So the Hurricane outnumbered the Spitfire throughout the battle, and shouldered the burden of the defence against the Luftwaffe; however, because of its higher performance, the overall attrition rate of the Spitfire squadrons was lower than that of the Hurricane units, and the Spitfire units had a higher victory-to-loss ratio
Mosquito doesn’t get the love it deserves. (From an American).
@@BattleSloths more of a fighter bomber. One of the best aircraft of the war.
@@fatboy19831 Exactly. Such a unique design as well. Always admired it.
11:05 look up the story of this man sparing a B-17. It’s an emotional one.
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Yarnhub (a documentary RUclipsr) made a video about it
@Tim Beeker
RE: "There is a book (A Higher Calling... a very good book) . . ."
A lot of Germans, particularly those who lived through World War II, did not like the book. They considered the German pilot to have been a traitor for not shooting down the crippled American bomber. Which, I suppose, is understandable.
I heard the story… it’s arguably the greatest story of all WWII
No no no, didnt you know that ALL Nazis were evil and couldnt do anything heroic??? This is propaganda of the highest order!
Naturally im taking the piss here. Im just sick and tired of being labelled a Neo-Nazi and apologist for stating that not ALL of them were evil SOBs like Hitler...
7:16 You added a brazilian P-47 picture "Senta a Pua!", love this channel, always acknowledging other countries contribution in full videos or slightly
I appreciate that total kills wasn't the only criteria considered, as that statistic can be easily skewed and certainly doesn't take into account the overall contributions made by any particular aircraft.
7:07 - That's an external fuel tank you're pointing at, but...
Lel this is not totally accurate
I think he said 2,500 thinking that was just the bomb itself when I'm pretty sure it stated (and im guessing he got this of wikipedia) total bomb load
I was going to type the same thing but you beat me to it.
Fins have a vote here! Fins matter! 😉😛👍
You beat us all to it, but a properly-rigged ext tank can still make a big explosion... why did no one explore canopy-based det cord to tanks dropped from 1200-6000’? 😂
Yeah.. I was gonna say that doesn’t look like a bomb
*All the other countries holding only 1 or 2 fighters* "they're my little babies" *US over in a corner with 8 different fighters* "wait we were only supposed to make one?"
Same applies to German Tanks production
TBF a lot of more obscure aircraft were missing from the list. Britain is famous for the Spitfire, but just off the top of my head the Hurricane, Beaufighter and (my personal favourite) the Mosquito were all also worthy of mention.
In particular, it's a bit silly to say the Lightning is the best because of versatility and not mention the Mosquito because it was very similar to the Lightning in many respects.
But it's all tradeoffs anyway. One plane will be a better dogfighter, another will have better range or better weapons or more flexibility.
Unlike other countries like britain or germany, the US did not make 24 variants of one plane
@@JohnLudlow You say the Lightning is versatile, but have you seen the amount of modifications the Mosquito had? It could be used as anti-submarine, bomber escort, anti-tank, fighter and a lot more.
And to top this off it was made out of fucking PLYWOOD.
@@sampackman69 it was also modified to be used as a transport. Ferried mail or VIPs. Mark Felton did a video on it, which I'll link in an edit. It really is an incredibly versatile aircraft.
Edit: here's the video as promised. ruclips.net/video/B09xMixpPFM/видео.html
My father was a mechanic on P 38s during WW2 so it has always been my favorite.
I always wince when the P38 gets celebrated without mention of Charles Lindbergh's contribution. He asked a squadron he was advising to use different settings on their engines than recommended and it greatly extended the flying range thus helping end the war sooner.
IIRC Lindbergh told them to use more boost and less throttle on takeoff. This Would save a lot of fuel, and was quickly adopted in many platforms.
Lindbergh was snubbed because he was against the US entering the war.
The best fighter of the war is an endless and impossible argument. There are too many variables and inconsistencies to compare planes that were designed for different strengths, were designed at different times, and faced varying enemy capabilities.
For example, many people feel the P-47 was the greatest. It undoubtedly was a great plane, but when the US gave it to the Soviets, they found little use for it because they were fighting at lower altitudes which the Thunderbolt wasn't designed for. It would be like the Americans trying to use a Yak-3 for bomber escort. Does that make the Yak worse or better than the Thunderbolt? Of course not, it just means the planes can't be compared.
Another example is the P-51 was a better escort than the P-47 because it had far better range, but if the mission involved ground attack the P-47 would likely be the better choice because it had better survivability, more firepower, and could carry more load. Which plane's better? Who knows?
Also, the quality of the pilot is a huge factor in the performance of any plane, and it's impossible to say which planes were carrying the best pilots overall.
Theres no way you make this list without the Grumman F6F Hellcat.
apples and oranges, man
The zero was the best all around at the start of the war
'The best fighter of the war is an endless and impossible argument'. Agreed so the video wanders off that topic.
@@capitaljushman5756 As you said, depends on the mission. One note to put forth, the P38 had the longest range (Think Yamamoto). Of the top American aces, 4 flew P-38s. Last note: The P-38 with green pilots took on the aces of both theaters and held there own while learning how to fight.
You forget to mention how heavy the P-38 had to be in order to fly. It had a roughly 16 to 1 lift to drag ratio. The design was so effective that the plane could not fly without being extremely heavy.
Hey Nigel, just curious what you mean by this? Was it so powerful that if it was too light it'd be uncontrollable/rip itself apart?
@@Baulder13 as that if it wasn’t heavy, the plane would be lifted so high into the air it couldn’t fly. This love had to be heavy in order to stay in the air. I studied this as a glider design back in high school for aerospace pre engineering
@@nigelvestrand4252 oh man thats an interesting fact thanks. Basically it had to trade range and speed by adding weight just to not shoot straight up into the stratosphere lol.
@@Baulder13 you got to remember it was used in the pacific a lot and it shot down admiral Yamamoto. So it had range and with two engines it was quite fast at 443 mph and had a range of 1,305 miles without drop tanks. Considering the P-51 only flew at 437 mph but was probably cheaper to make and was first flew a year later.
@@Baulder13 not to mention that Richard Bong 40 victories, Thomas McGuire 38 victories and Charles H MacDonald 27 victories were America’s top aces. They all got them in the P-38.
While the P-38 was no doubt a good aircraft the DH Mosquito is a forgotten and very very under-rated aircraft. Fulfilling so many roles, and doing all of them exceptionally well, played a major part in WW2. Some of my late Father's friends who flew the Mosquito (and the Tetse) loved the plane as it could take an immense amount of damage and still fly. With such a variety of variants (Photo-reconnaissance, Bomber, Fighter, Night Fighter, Strike Fighter Bomber, Trainer, Torpedo Bomber, Target Tug, and highball), it was surely, in my opinion, the most versatile aircraft of WW2 and deserves a place in aviation history and inclusion in your list.
IMHO, the Mosquito was the best allied aircraft of the war and possibly the best of any combatant nation in WWII.
But, except for the night fighter versions, it wasn’t really a fighter and much as I would like to see it in this list, it doesn’t really belong here.
I'm not a fighter pilot expert but I am an amature military historian. My father was a B-17 pilot and was shot down on July 26, 1943 on his third mission after a bombing raid over Hanover, Germany. Five of his crew were killed and the other five survived and were all captured. My dad spent the rest of the war in Stalag Luff III and Stalag VII A when he was freed by the lead units of Patton's 3rd Army in April 1945.
In early 1943, the 8th Army Air Corps were still flying unescorted missions and facing tremendous German fighter and flak to and from their missions. Losses were heavy. During the war, the bombers lost 60,000 crews killed or taken prisoner.
The following is an account from a German fighter pilot’s summary perspective describing the difficulty attacking a B‐17 formation.
“A B‐17 formation, dubbed a "Pulk" (herd) by the Germans, was an unnerving sight for the novice German fighter pilots. With a combined closing speed of 500 mph both sides had only seconds to make their fire count. Barreling in at 200 yards per second a fighter pilot might have time for only a half‐second burst before taking evasive action.”
And the following is a quote from a highly experienced German fighter pilot ACE on the same subject.
"Fips" Phillips, was a 200+ Eastern Front Ace. While in command of JG 1 defending against American bombers over northern Germany he offered this personal perspective:
"Against 20 Russians trying to shoot you down or even 20 Spitfires, it can be exciting, even fun. But curve in towards 40 fortresses and all your past sins flash before your eyes."
Nevertheless, the German pilots were fierce in the defense of their homeland. Between flak and fighters, Germans shot down over 4,000 B‐17’s during the war.
I fought in the Vietnam War for a year 1968-69. I lost a lot of good Marines, but during the Vietnam War we had 68,000 killed. The bomber crews lost 60,000 in less than four years.
It's not known exactly how many German fighters were shot down by the American bombers because many of the claims were reported by two or more of the bombers for the same German aircraft or exaggerated because gunners thought they had shot down an aircraft when in reality, they were seldom confirmed.
However, one of my uncles who flew fighters in the Korean War was the first double ACE for a jet fighter pilot. He was famous for his book on fighter tactics called "No Guts, No Glory" that in close dog fights today is still relevant. He retired from the Air Force as a Major General and he died on the 4th hole of his golf club at the age of 91. He was a true gentleman in that he never drank, didn't smoke, and never cursed. He was the happiest and most satisfied individual I've ever known. I miss him and my parents who were the best parents any kid could hope to have had.
I'm 77 now and I can tell you that the US and the world is far worse today than they were during the Cold War in the 50's and early 60's. I wish the younger people today could see how much better live was back then. Of course we had major problems as well such as segregation, but crime, poverty, drugs, and human misery wasn't as dramatic as it is today. California in those days was an idyllic state and today it is not much better than the center of human misery and despair. NYC was safe and a great place to visit. Today, it isn't safe and crime is rampant as is homelessness and an immigration crisis caused by a moron of a President we have today. The list goes on. We are more divisive today than ever before in my life time.
I digress.
I think there truly is a case to be made for the Mosquito being the best plane of the War. It could do anyhting and do it well.
@@thethirdman225 I agree , though some variants are pretty comparable to the P-38 which did make the list .... If I had the choice of flying any WW2 plane in WW2 it would be a Mozzie.
The F6F Hellcat definitely should have been on this list. It wasn't until the Hellcat entered service that fighter pilots in the US Navy had a distinct advantage over the Japanese. More American fighter pilots became aces in the Hellcat than in any other type, and its 19-1 kill ratio was the highest of any US fighter.
Agree 100%
To be fair, the Hellcat also had opportunities that types like the F4U, which had been relegated to land bases (contrary to myth, NOT because the plane was unsuitable for carrier deployment. It was a matter of logistics more than anything else) didn't. Engagements like the Marianas Turkey Shoot tend to inflate the numbers a bit.
Thing was literally a flying Tank..one tough Fighter..That and the Corsair kicked the Japanese asses
@@mmaaphilliates 100%
@Jack Tangles you're mistaken. In fact, pound for pound comparison between the P-51D and F4U-4, the Corsair came out the winner. Faster, 438 vee 441, has a higher roll rate, could dive faster, carry heavier armament loads, could absorb a lot of battle damage and above all, could land on a carrier.
Fun fact: Everytime a p47 pilot fires a burst of rounds the wingman could see the plane vibrating because of the 8 machine guns
dont forget the 37mm cannon
AmericanIdiot
Name checks out.
A-10's Grandpa
Hardcore!
@@AmericanIdiot7659 The P-47 didn't have a cannon? The Aircobra had a 37 mm cannon.
As a true American Patriot. I noticed that all of the top 4 planes were American. The channel owner is mistaken about the top plane. The great Corsair could fly circles around the P 38, which was close to useless. The channel owner admits that the Zero kill rate at the beginning was 12 to 1. As the P38 was around the whole war, that means the P38 was one of the planes that the Zeros were mowing out of the air, ripping the P38 to shreds. I would put the lowly Zero ahead of the P38.
Thanks,helped with me with a project 😊
If you want to see most of these planes in person, I suggest the United States Air Force museum in Dayton, Ohio, USA.....
The last time I was at WAFB, my wife and I met about a dozen Germans looking at different planes. One man was from the same street about 2 blocks away from where she grew up. At that time if you wanted to see some of the fighters mentioned here you had to leave the main part of the museum and go to another building.
@@fritzfiedler1807 WPAB. Has a fantastic collection of aircraft from the beginning to present day. Wright Patterson Air Force Base has a collection of aircraft that is a must see for aviation enthusiast's. My grant father and I made yearly trips for many years and at present it has evolved into much much more. The Holocaust display is outstanding, humbling, and disturbing and should never be taken for granted.
best trip i took in a long time any body that can please treat your self go
Maybe when the world chills out a bit I'll make the trip ;)
Justin Last Don’t diss Dayton like that, man
This list is incomplete without the Hurricane; the workhorse of the RAF.
Hurricane was indeed a workhorse but obsolete by mid-war.
@@cantrell0817 the hurricane was dominant by quantity by the speed and reduced cost of manufacture and its ease of being repaired rapidly, the biggest disadvantages of the spit was the time and cost to manufacture and its inability to sustain damage and fly home as well as the hurricane.
@@theant9821 Just because it's relatively simple doesn't make it one of the best.
I believe the Hurricane shot down more Luftwaffe aircraft than the Spitfire.
The Spit's went for the German fighters, and the Hurries went for the bombers, so a little easier to shoot down....:)
The video is titled 'best' not 'biggest work horse'… granted, he left the late war fighters off the list, but that is a different issue.
The P-47 is my favorite for sure, but I agree that it wasn’t the best of the war. I can see I’m not alone in my confusion that the Hellcat wasn’t mentioned, haha
I am also a big fan of the hurricane as a cheaply produced workhorse, and it’s sexy (but dangerous cousin), the typhoon.
I think the Hellcat and Mosquito are worth mentioning too.
There were such distinct phases of the war, so it’s fascinating to see the zero as a front runner in the early phases, only to be surpassed by the suite of American fighters later in the war.
I am missing the Me 262, even if it just came into action, as it was already to late.
It even laid the foundation for all currently used military air crafts
The Me 262 was obviously a huge technical advance and could do things no other plane could. But it's overall effectiveness was limited. It was known to be very difficult and dangerous to fly, compounded by the fact the pilots were insufficiently trained in flying it, and was mechanically notoriously unreliable. Also, by the time it was available, fuel availability was a huge issue for the Luftwaffe and the Me 262 was very, very thirsty and also required special runways and facilities. So in the end, it wasn't particular successful even in limited use. Perhaps just too far ahead of its time.
@@knutthompson7879 The draw backs were mostly because of the state of the German war machine at the time. The allies strategy was to shoot them on the ground or when they took off or landed. Nobody wanted to face a Me 262 in the air at full speed.
@@jonathanross149 I am sure it was terrifying to go up against something that fast. All other things being equal, they could do some damage. A lot of their general ineffectiveness WAS due to the inability of the Germans to properly train pilots and outfit and maintain the planes, not to mention produce enough of them to make a difference, no debating that. Oh and also when they wasted time and effort trying to make it a bomber instead of a fighter, a role it was really designed for.
@@jonathanross149 I wounder why xD No but seriously, I wish I saw the reaction to the very first allied when a Me 262 just swooped by like a crazy fat little be from hell. That is a reaction video I would see.
I agree with you. Pilot training, lack of fuel, maintenance, is all beside the point. If you had trained pilots in well maintained fully fueled aircraft, I don't think there's any plane on the list that could take an Me 262 one on one.
Question: Where is Geetsly’s?
Answer: getting new fine additions to his collection.
Miles Kerr same
NO PROBLEM! The P38 Lightning is my pick because I fell in love with the Lightning the first time I saw it fly. It was one of the most recognizable planes in WWII and was vey seldom taken by any other plane, except maybe the Mosquito, with also was a twin boon fighter...
The P-38 doesn’t get credit it deserves, it help turn the tide in the pacific theater. Beautiful bird, incredible sound one of the best birds ever made. Not sure who’s prettier Corsair, Mustang or the Lightning
well the answer is Spitfire, but sure ;-) Mustang for me, although there's a certain brutality to the F6F and F8F. I'm OK with the gull wings on the Corsair but the spinner feels like it needs a cap (which would ruin the cooling, of course)
The impact that the P-38 made is probably as interesting as the plane itself. Pilots and commanders recognized early on the shortcomings during dogfights, so they pioneered the squadron/formation tactics that can still be seen today
Which Country had the Most Effective Tank in World War 2?
New Zealand: Bob Semple Tank
Nope the Sherman most versatile and ubiquitous tank of WW2 used on every single front from Russia to the Pacific
Agreed. Never lost a battle and none were lost to enemy action. Superb.
@@USS_Grey_Ghost It was a joke....
Our Lord and savior
Bob semple
It’s the bob semple cult
definitely on my list would be the mosquito built by de Havilland, also the hawker hurricane which also fought in the battle of Britain and totally out numbered the spitfire
Charles Lindbergh got an unofficial kill in a P-38. He was in the Pacific as a consultant for Lockheed and was showing pilots how to effectively fly the plane. He got a kill on a fighter sweep but it was kept quiet due to him being a private citizen.
I have a soft spot for the Corsair due to Black Sheep Squadron!
No mention of the the British Hurricane? Most people do not realize that it was produced more than the Spitfire.
derkaiser420, No it wasn’t, they built just under 14,500 Hurricanes but just over 20,000 Spitfires, just over 22,500 if you include the naval Seafire variant. In addition, the Spitfire was the only World War 2 fighter that was in production and service before 1939 and was still in full production after 1945.
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The Hurricane wasn't really used as a fighter after the battle of Britain. It was repurposed as a ground support aircraft till being replaced by the Tempest and Typhoon
Not intended at all, to take anything away from the Spitfire. Never the less...Around 2-3rds of the fighters in the Battle of Britain were Hurricanes. For that reason alone it at least deserves a mention. Best comparative description of the two i've heard - was....."The Spitfire was like a fast agile sports car. - It could slice through the sky like a hot knife through butter". While the Hurricane was - "like a solid old pick up truck. It could take a pounding in battle, and still come back for more". Squadrons and pilots learnt to fly each type to their strengths.
@@mrjockt Those were produced after the battle of Britain. The hurricane was by far the most produced during the BOB and there were relatively few spitfires at the time.
@@mrjockt Bf 109 was produced before 1939 and after 1945
When I was a kid and you could buy these little foam gliders at the corner store, the P-38 Lightning was my favorite by far.
Have always heard plenty about the 190, the Mustang and the Spitfire, and plenty about the Corsair in the Pacific, but my personal favourite has always been the Lightning. I’ve got a VR WWII flight game and couldn’t wait to unlock it
War thunder?
@@oddlenoodle2412 Warplanes: Battles over Pacific
Guys watch a video of a Fw 190 fly-by. The motor sound is terrifying and beautiful at the same time.
Na sounds like ur nan
Occasional Onion you actually thought that was funny?
@@Ic12348 Dude like that was so funny. Like I'm just so lmao right now.
Ngl the Rolls Royce Merlin engine, used in most of the RAFs planes, most notably the Spitfire, sounds fucking amazing
nothing against the 262...
I have red such sentence.
"If you want to send picture to your sweetheart, sit in Mustang cockpit. If you want to survive war in air take Thunderbolt.
So true, and that's why I would have picked it if I had to go to war for real. Not only it will bring you back alive, but it can also successfully perform any type of mission, from air to air combat to ground support. For me, it will always be the #1 fighter plane of WW2.
@@razorback20 #1 by far. No propeller plane faster than the 47 until the Jets. Take damage better. Engine almost never quit. More firepower. More range. Maneuverable up high, but not as good down low. Could outdive anyone, but had natural brake for newish pilots so would not crater it into the ground like all other fighter types. Had the required range to go to Berlin(as soon as the asshole bomber mafia allowed it to carry external fuel tanks) Flew more combat sorties than any other type and had the Fewest casualties than any other type and yet were often tasked with the MOST dangerous missions: Ground pounding. Why? Its engine and its 2000lb payload plus 8 50's. Pretty simple reason why: had 2800Hp under the hood. Almost double that of the Mustang/Spitfire(Griffin version had 2000hp at end of war) PS: Tempest if built MUCH earlier in the war would have gotten a BIG nod over the Spitfire, but UK could not make its engine run worth a damn.
There's a reason the A-10 is officially named "Thunderbolt II" ["Warthog" is just an affectionate nickname!]
I always heard it; "If you want to survive war in the air, take a Hellcat."
Yeah. The Mustang is probably the sexiest fighter of WWII.
The Spitfire is such a beautiful looking aircraft. The look of things always very important to Brits. Mustang a fine looking machine too.
My Gramps (RAF and Army during Korean War era but wasn’t sent over due to medical role) took a photo of a spitfires interior used for repairs until it’s inevitable retirement and got to get a ride in a mosquito.
"General Greivous’ ship, dead ahead. The one crawling with Vulture Droids."
"Oh, I see it. This is going to be easy..."
"This is where the fun begins!"
"Flying is for droids!"
"Spinning isn’t flying Anakin!!"
"But it is a good trick!"
"Easy, R4, nothing too fancy- WOAAAAH!!!"
Bruh..., nice
I feel like polish pilots don’t get enough credit for how good they flew spitfires even after the fall of Poland
Polish squadrons were more known to fly hurricanes though
One Pole in particular was pretty good at cracking an early Enigma machine, too.
Nice list here, great job mate
I was surprised the Hellcat wasn’t included
I’m not very knowledgeable on such things though
My favorite WWII All around plane has to be the P38 Lightening & my 2nd being the P51 Mustang fighter
I've missed the Tempest there, a beauty and a beast.
And feared more by me 262 pilots than mustang !
And what an engine it had. Just amazing!
Damn I loved the tempest my granddad flew a spitfire and was a Ace no joke his name was Carl Davies, and he said, one plane he said he would’ve loved to fly was the rugged tank the tempest or was it the typhoon
What about the Seafury swell??
@@adamconroy2146 Too late for the show :D
The Corsair is my favorite. The Hellcat, Hurricane, Tempest, and Me-262 are worth consideration.
RoninTXBR549 I know, considering just how quick the Tempest was combined with the payload options it could take, while remaining an excellent energy fighter.
ME 262 was awful.
The engines had terrible durability and weren't reliable at all.
It was a massively innovative design, but that innovation came at the cost of it's reliability
I’m pretty sure p-51s at that time in the war didn’t have any trouble combating the 262
the 262 came into the fight way too late to make much of a difference, not to mention as with many german war implements it was too hard to produce. It was definitely innovative and a great plane, but for every one they could produce britain could pump out 10 spitfires and america could pump out 10 mustangs or lightnings
RoninTXBR549 The Corsair was a beast. It was also, in my opinion, right up there with the Spitfire in terms of best looking fighter as well.
That e.t. joke got you a sub. Lol. Keep up the good work!
I say we should hold a tournament where each of these planes fights 1v1 style to see what truly was the hest
It wasn't just the plane but the tactic that evolved and the quality of pilots as the war went on .
Watch the video...thats literally the first thing he said
This. I will never ever respect american planes of WW2, but they got to have best tactics in the end. In Europe high alt bombers are not to be and in the east even less so. But what european theatre had was great mid alt fighter galore dance which also produced most 100+ kills aces. By the time americans get to fight Luftwaffe it was not "fair match" at all with usually with 109K trying hard to climb towards super high bombers who came in great numbers, lost all of their ammo, just to fight even higher american p51 who always had numerical advantage. Was P51 very successful? Yes. Do i think 1 vs 1 German and Soviet fighters were better during ww2. Hell yes.
@@unwokeneuropean3590 100 kills aces fought a lot of antique bi-planes & unprepared pilots.
@@unwokeneuropean3590 A lot of those 100+ aces started in the Spanish Civl War. A big difference between the Germans and Americans was the German pilots stayed on the front lines, whereas the Americans would pull their pilots to train the newer ones. Plus there was a big difference in claiming a plane shot down. The Americans counted any plane that was shot down as a kill. The germans didn't count their planes shot down unless the pilot was killed.
An outstanding discussion taking into account as many aspects of each fighter!
Voice reminds me of Eckharts Ladder. great video dude👍
The Me262 was obviously the best fighter plane built during WWII. The allies were shit scared of it when it came about but was too late to do too much.
@James Stripling I know but on a level playing field, 1 vs 1 nothing could beat them in WWII. Anything can shoot down a plane taking off...
You’re comparing a jet to fighter planes.
@@lejenddairy exactly lol. Still a WWII fighter/interceptor. If both planes were flown properly it would beat any prop plane of WWII
@@MickR0sco i guess you never heard the tale of the US redtails. They engaged them with the p51 and won all their dogfights against them. The ME was an important development in aviation but it was built on very very very tight tolerances which are fine on paper until the production facilities are facing mass shortages in alloys, workers, engineers, designers, and maintenance crews to work on them. It was like the stg 44 or fg42 of ww2 planes. Excellent technology but way more of a hassle than what is true efficiency. The fg42 was also built and designed on tolerances so tight that the most successful missioned they were used in were the ones they did not even get used. Same goes for the ME
@@Rytoast99 I'm not interested in the details of manufacturing and stuff. What I mean is exactly that, on paper. It was hands down the most capable fighter aircraft of WWII on paper and when they had the means to maintain them.
The Grumman F6F Hellcat deserves to be on the list. It had a 19:1 kill ratio. Italy's Macchi C.202 Folgore was another good-quality fighter which deserves to be on the list.
YES!!
So make a list!
Italy didn't even get a plane on the list, it deserves a spot
The Hawker Tempest was an absolute beast. Luftwaffe pilots were scared of it especially at low level. The Me 262 has to be up there me too, it was pretty much a fighter from the future at that point in time. Great choices though, love the P38 a non-clichéd choice and mount of America's top aces in ww2. Also beautiful, fast and ahead of its time.
Maybe green ones, experten knew how to deal with it hans dortenmann shot down 4 tempests with his dora 9 he was the biggest fw190 d9 ace , theres is a very interesting tale about a dogfight between a tempest and a ta 152 the pilot was willy reschke he shot down the tempest
@@noteimportax6477 That dogfight with the ta 152 was fake. The story changed 3 times and there is no way to confirm. What we can confirm is that the ta 152 had serious problems and half remained grounded at all times. The ta 152 is a coulda been fighter not to mention it was slower than a p 40 on the deck. It was not manuverable and it was only faster than most american fighters heading north of 25,000ft.
@@noteimportax6477 qqqq41
The strengths of each various model in the type of mission specified determined its effectiveness. The P38's utility as a long-range offensive fighter was credited for Yamamoto's death, but as a short-range maneuverable defensive fighter, was not the ideal choice. So assigning it and other models where they were the most effective was the key.
I've heard that the P- 47 had the top kills and best pilot safety . The P- 38 had many problems at first but one problem was not much heat for the pilot, although fire power straight out of the nose had to be a huge plus. The design was cool , but never much used on many future fighters. If I had to pick it would probably be the late model P- 51.
The British Hurricane should be on the list... And probably the Hellcat too.
yeah think damage finnish airforce did with their hurricanes probably their most advanced fighter ,gives you some idea how good their pilots were.
I must disagree. The Hurricane was already obsolete by 1940 - it shot down more planes than the Spitfire because the 'Spit' was new and there were precious few of them.
The Hurricane was outclassed by the German ME109 in pretty much every way. When you're outclassed so badly - the wise thing is adopt Claire Chenault's tactics [ US Flying Tigers in China ] - get an altitude advantage , make one high speed attack and hope you hit something , then use your dive speed to get the hell outta Dodge.
The Flying Tigers had the same problem Flying the obsolete P-40 against the fast agile Mitsubishi Zero - dogfighting with a superior aircraft is suicide - your only winning hand is ambush tactics.
When the fearsome F6F Hellcat was introduced it was the Japanese who were now outclassed in every way , and they resorted to the exact same thing.
Make one high speed diving attack and get Yo ass outta there !
@@charlesmartel8112 The title of the clip was "Which country had the most effective fighter". If the Hurricane shot down more planes than the Spitfire why does that not make it "effective". My understanding is that RAF tactics called for the Hurricanes to go after German bombers while the Spitfires went after the German fighters. They were both effective and both helped the RAF won the Battle of Britain.
@@salemengineer2130 You have a good point there - against a Hurricane a bomber is the proverbial 'sitting duck' and no mistake. I forgot the RAF used this very clever tactic. Thanks for that. [ not a Hurricane fan obviously - I think it was a dog but dogs often do good work ]
The Hellcat had the firepower but its speed could be compared to a slug
Only one British aircraft? Where's the Mosquito, Hurricane, Typhoon, Meteor or tempest
Jets need not apply otherwise me262, Typhoon was 1) A dog, 2) horribly unreliable, 3) Tempest barely flew in WWII(Dead sexy airplane btw), 4) Mosquito was not a fighter, and night fighter claims are beyond ludicrous as zero corroboration and everyone lied by at least 2X and closer to 4X in night ops where one sees a plane for less than a quarter of a second while firing, 5) Hurricane was obsolete in 1940 like the P40, yet were used anyways and 6) This guy purposefully picked his #1 aircraft to purposefully be the worst on the list at everything, thus cleverly avoiding majority of fans of certain aircraft. As for my personal Opinion: P47. Ugly, but had lowest loss rate, even though flew highest number of combat missions in all theatres of the war, was tasked with ground pounding as well due to its 2300hp to 2800hp damage eating radial engine and could do everything well and to top it off, was very fast. Certainly not a sexy ride, but if living while delivering more bombs/rockets/ammo than any other fighter is your criteria... If you want acrobatics at an airshow, take a Spitfire as your ride of choice. Suggest the Spit VIII with its 2000hp Griffin and light airframe before they changed it***Edit: maybe that was the Spit XII?***. Can't take damage, but damn do you have a sexy nimble tweety bird down low to REALLY impress the ladies.
@@w8stral EVERYONE over-reported kill figures, not only night fighter pilots, everyone did, oddly enough by 2-4 times. Any serious historian who studies air warfare during WWII could tell you that.
Typhoon was horribly unreliable to start with, though most of the kinks had been worked out. As for a dog, no worse than some other large, fast aircraft, the P-47 was not exactly nimble either.
Agree the Hurricane was if not obsolete by 1940 it was certainly outdated. Which was why it was pulled as a frontline fighter after the Battle of Britain and mostly converted to the Ground Attack role, in which it was actually very successful. More rugged than the Spitfire and a far more stable gun and rocket platform. Did the job well until better aircraft came along.
Personally I would have gone for the Westland Whirlwind had they managed to manufacture its engines in enough quantities and figured out the last few glitches. Rolls Royce though were so busy with the Merline they were not able to put the work into the Peregrine to really make it shine, and that killed a very capable fighter.
@@w8stral the reason the P-47 had the lowest loss rate was because most of its missions were ground attack where the only thing shooting you would be an occasional wirbelwind or ostwind which in reality were bad. That meant it would have incredibly low losses, and when it was used as an escort the Germans were clever. They would just wait until the p-47 had to return back to base before attacking the bombers meaning the p-47 while flying many combat, missions would be in danger of being shot at a lot less than most other aircraft.
Also the spitfire was remarkably tough. Only slightly weaker than a Mustang and a reasonable amount more so than a bf-190.
Jacob Kingsford arrogant brits the p47 was well known to fight 109s and 190s and take severe damage and win. The p47 was used as a ground attacker later and a escort first.
@@jesspayne5548 it was only used as an escort because it was pretty much the only plane that could carry a sufficiently large add on fuel tank to make the most of journey. The way beat most bf 109 sand FW 190 s was by diving on them because due to its higher weight it could accelerate much faster but once that dive was up it is pretty much lost most of its energy to make maneuvers and was less maneuverable to start with so once it was found out that was how P-47 beat the German fighters, they would quickly swerve to avoid the diving p-47 and pick it off once it was slow as it started to climb back up. so while this gave the p-47 slight advantage early on it was fairly easy to counter and once the tactic was created the Germans would win most of the dogfights against it.
My first tour of s fighter was a P61 Black Widow. I've been in love since
The corsair is my all-time favorite fighter, and all-time favorite prop plane ever made. The unique design and across the board performance, the f4u is a legend in the hood.
"Two planes, one pilot" I have seen enough hentai to know the meaning
Imperialist
I'll have to stop you there.
Is that anything like two girls one cup?
Not enough tentacles
What does it mean though
"designed by ET while he was on ketamine" was very relatable
Hmm, are you claiming a direct bloodline with E.T.? If for, I can understand being depressed and needing the Ketamine!
Interesting, I might have given the La-5/La-7 the nod over the Yakovlev, but then again the air war on the Eastern Front was pretty interesting. Despite having a bad reputation in the west, the P-39 Airacobra saw a lot of Soviet pilot earn their ace titles.
yes the soviets received 4000 p 39s they loved it they stripped down the armour and made it more maneuverable and also loved the nose cannon!
11:03 he was the one that was 1 away from getting the knights cross but spared a heavily damaged B-17, he died in 2009
knight
True
I think he would still deserve a American medal as appreciation.
And if you want to hear a more specific version of that story just look up “When a BF-109 spared a stricken B-17”
I remember reading about that somewhere.
I'd have to say I love the Hellcat. It ruled the skies in the Pacific and was more than a match for any on the list. It could carry bombs, rockets, fuel tanks and radar by the end.
Cant believe it was not even mentioned. Only second to the P51 for kills and not by much at all.
It could carry torpedoes aswell
Corsairr gets no love
Was looking for someone to mention the hellcat it was an incredible fighter
The Hellcat was too slow to tangle with leading late-war designs. It was built mainly as a Zero-killer that would fit on the rather cramped aircraft carriers of the time. As the Zero was even slower and not upgraded like most of the other WWII aircraft, the F6F did not have to be exceptionally fast. The F4U was much faster with the same engine as the Hellcat, as was the F8F. The Hellcat saw more action mainly because the F4U took a long time to pass its carrier qualifications - and it took the British to sort that. The IJN started the war with the best aircraft in the Pacific but were totally eclipsed by the Allies rather quickly in both quantity and quality. The USA being protected by vast oceans making it virtually impossible to attack had the luxury of entering the war unprepared and having a couple of years to get fully mobilized.
The P-38 changed Naval doctrine to this day. The Navy finally ended up with twin engine as a basis for all of their designs. The pilots can always make it home on one engine instead of going into the drink.
Ironically the plane christened "Lightning 2" has changed that somewhat.
My grandfather’s cousin is Richard Bong. My whole family is basically pilots to this day. About 6 of us are pilots with a few more in training.
The Flying pancake is The Funniest Name for a Fighter Planes! XD
This thing is the scariest aircraft to face, because it makes your stomache growl. XD
A6M Zero:
+5 Agility
+5 Range
+5 Climb rate
- 100% Armor.
@Juan Taco Then why doesn't anyone talk about them, except Mexicans?
Tinderbox
@@duggiebader1798 If you manage to land a hit on them, that is. Good luck with that!
@@friedyzostas9998
You're right, no body actually got near them! Remind me, Fried Yzoshitas, how Japan's Imperial Empire is getting on nowadays? All thanks to the Zero of course.
@@duggiebader1798 In comparison to America, Japan didn't became a joke country, despite the creation of anime.
I know it entered the war late but,
The P-61 Black Widow was amazing!
My grandfather flew the Wildcat, and then the Hellcat. He said the Hellcat was the best fighter he flew. He also said that because it was designed as a carrier aircraft, that it didn't get the credit it deserved. And my Grampa was right, I will fight you!
When the P-38 Lightning got to Europe the Luftwaffe used it as a target drone, so it was used to harass shipping in the Mediterranean where it did well. The roll rate of the P-38 was too low, so it couldn't turn fast enough..
The only way to assess effectiveness is the kill rate, it's the Hurricane. Whilst the Spitfires were chasing Bf109, the Hurries were downing the bombers, and later used for very effective ground attack.