Oh. The exhaust fell off... NEC show prep fail!
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- Опубликовано: 9 фев 2025
- Preparing Elly the 2CV for the NEC Classic Motor Show went particularly badly! What started as a positive 'quick and dirty' mobile video about 2CV prep turned into exhaust fail...
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Oops! Elly heard the words stainless steel and got excited and poo'd her exhaust off 🤣
Elly is Elly and she's honest. Noone will mind the dents, dirt and honesty of her. And great idea about the detailed walkabouts for the fleet members Ian! Bummer about the exhaust, seems to be much a thing with people at the moment lol. Few friends have had exhaust woes this week too!
There really ought to be a Concourse d'Inelegance.
An old french small car without dents is not an old fench car. Would never happen in its natural environment.
Tis exhaust season with all the rain, just wait for first decent frost when batteries give up.
@@caw25sha My collection would be ideal for a Concourse d'Negligence 🤣 Went to sort new bulbs as I had a headlight out on the Transit Camper today. Got headlight out to discover the plug was disconnected for the bulb. I remember catching a wire a few weeks ago when doing the exhaust to manifold bolts. Looks like I have discovered what wire it was.
Elly's way of telling you she wants a 720..... Fingers crossed you can get everything sorted for Thursday!
I think Elly would prefer a full wrx AWD turbo set up underneath but I’m an Aussie…. We do that sort of thing here. Hehe
Or a BMW engine swap 😉
I sometimes feel that we should all hibernate for the winter and wait for spring when everything feels so much better .
I'd buy into that👍. I aways watch mournfully as the swallows 'cloud up' in late summer to fly off to warmer climes wishing I could go with.
I already do. See you all in late February! Hahahaha
@@MeMe-qr3go Thanks for pointing that out! You are now officially off my Xmas card list
@@mattydare I don't literally get to do that. It's more of psychological hibernation than a literal one.
But man, off the Christmas list. That's severe! Punitive! hehe
My Moskvitch 2140 exhaust disintegrated when I was working in the Middle East in 1981. I wasn't able to source another as the whole dealership had ended trading. A neighbour had brought an exhaust section for his Moskvitch from the UK but said British Airways made a fuss when he tried to put it in the cabin luggage. Eventually I found old iron drainpipe by the roadside, stuck it in the rusted end of manifold pipe and kept it in place with wire, and that worked after a fashion. No silencer, but as long as I kept my foot off the throttle, no-one noticed.
...Lord Lucan and Shergar probably hidden in the corner of the unit too...🤣
Ellie's imperfections are what makes her perfect!
trailer queens are boring
Then again a lot of my vehicles have got home that way courtesy of the RAC
proper old school hub nut, hand held phone and waffle stuff. Brilliant
Hoping it is repaired by tomorrow!
And I also hope parts arrive on schedule as well.
Oh dear! How very HubNut! I did a video on my friends 2CV I’d never been in one, I’m fairly sure a walkround would be good, the crazy gear change was enough to amuse me!
Great idea to give use a walk around a refresh about the cars
I'm glad that you are happy with Elly - no matter what disaster happens next. Real love is unconditional. To humans. And to cars as well...
If you ever need any of your cars tuning i.e. Carburettors I have a full gas analyser and the offer still stands for the free tunes on any of them still loving the channel after all these years thanks and stay safe
Oh dear Mr HubNut, its money money going out at the minute, let's hope the NEC brings some money in for you.
I would leave Elly as she is forthe show. She is your everyday hero after all.
Thank you so much for that little blat of throttle with no exhaust. Lovely
Your videos are always an adventure, and such a pleasure to watch. Keep up the good work.
I make my own exhaust rubber mounts from folded punctured bicycle tubes. I always seem to have too many of those..
Also get a cheap welder. The amount of last minute saves you can do with one is incredible.
Having a welding machine is different from being able to work with it.
@@micheltebraake7915 True, but it really doesn't take much practice to learn to weld to a functional degree. It takes a lot of experience and skill to go from functional to nice clean tidy welds, but to get you out of a pickle, functional is all you need.
@@micheltebraake7915 Just point and shoot: You'll get something to stick together in a very short time. Nobody says it has to look good.
A full exhaust is approx £150 and a fitting kit £30. So you can replace the lot for under £200 (+ large donation to the swearbox) and have a few years of trouble free spluttering (from the exhaust at least).
@@mattydare I'm not saying don't get new parts, I'm saying give yourself some more opportunities in last minute "oh crap" or "I would really like to drive it home today" situations 🙂
In french we have a series of slang words for the specific 2CV parts. So for example we call the crossbox "la bête à cornes" - the horned beast. The tie rod end eyes " les sucettes " - the lollipops.
I ran a lomax-esque kit car with just the cross-box, swan neck and a long straight pipe, no real silencer, for years. Your wee demonstration of the noise took me right back!
I was tempted to just try and cram the tailpipe on what's left of the swan neck...
@@HubNut Tricky, as the rubbers will then be stretched forwards and trying to fight the silencer backwards - and the end of the swan neck you will be working with isn't too pretty either. Top tip getting the swan neck to sit at the right angle in the outlet of the cross box when the new bits arrive - I made up a sleeve the same size as the inside of the front end of the swan neck that stuck out a couple of inches - it then pushes into the outlet of the cross box and holds the swan neck at the right position as you do the clamp up.
I took Foxanne down to Tesco for fuel this morning in prep for the run up to the NEC and the indicators stopped working, which resulted in some black looks from other drivers. Thankfully it only required a few wiggles of the spade connectors on the fuse box, which was done in the Lidl car park while attempting to be polite to a very interested classic car enthusiast.
Loose connections are a pain. Lost the oil pressure light for a similar reason!
@@HubNut Good old Joe Lucas aka The Prince of Darkness. I'm used to those antics!
A regular at my Newsagents 30 years ago had a 2cv. One day I could hear him driving up from a couple of blocks away. I bemusedly commented about the exhaust. He said "I hadn't noticed, I'm used to riding motorbikes normally"! 😄
I had a Mk2 Astra years ago, stopped at traffic lights and suddenly heard a really loud exhaust noise. I looked in the mirror and there was a TVR behind me. OK, it's just that then. Half a mile later he turned into a sideroad but the noise didn't. Could have been my exhaust after all.
I washed Gerti my BX19Gti yesterday in the shade as was 26 C. Today it’s a bit cooler on 24 C with a gentle South easterly sea breeze. The Greater Wellington Citroen Car Club has an event on 20th November called Roly’s Run named after Roly Bannister who faithfully attended a Wellington Run around the scenery and named after him when he passed away about 25 years ago. We may be in for some rain.!
Bless her, That's Elly being Elly.
Elly aventures tend to start with catastrophic failures right before the word go. But you always triumphantly get her going at the very last minute.
As you say old cars. Elly is a classic old lady. Bless her.
Elly is a special 2CV, and the fact that she has signs of use is not bad Ian, better than a like new looking 2CV that only comes out when it remains 100% dry.
Absolutely brilliant video Ian 👍hope you get your exhaust sorted for the nec she still sounds great without the exhaust brilliant
Ouch. Hope it gets fixed quick!
A long time ago where I had my Xantia in for service, I borrowed my mechanic’s 2CV where the exhaust had just snapped at that very same spot. The rest of the exhaust was sitting perfectly normal in its mounts under the car but the engine was shouting out the broken exhaust just behind the front wheel. Only slightly embarrassing driving around town 😆
Looking forward to coming along and saying hello at the NEC mate.
I’ve only been waiting 3 years since I started watching Hubnut when you bought TWC.
Good luck. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
and it was all going so well... Life seems to do that to one, especiaally where old technology is involved! Good luck getting and fitting the bits.
The imperfections are merely character. That's what we love about our old cars. My Cybil the 75 Tourer has many character building bits that need a bit of a seeing to.
To be honest Ian I don't think I've seen you look so happy in the unit for ages!
Elly obviously has that effect 😁
Elly will feel like a flying machine without the exhaust, being able to exhale gasses quicker!
Another one of my boring "told it all before" stories is when we were stopped by the police for having our exhaust flopping around beneath our 1968 Renault 4. We had no idea because with the silencer tucked inside the front wheel arch, it sounded no different.
When all else fails, grease the kingpins.
Never a dull moment in yours and Elly's life ey? S'what makes life SSSO interesting. See ya Friday.
Exhausts are just a pain in the back side. they never want to come apart and when they do its usually because something is broken. Hopefully your replacement will arrived soon and not cause too many headaches to fit. As Ellie is a family member so not going anywhere maybe stainless is a good investment
Need that stainless one 😊
Ian better title for video would have been all the things I didn’t get around too and the one main thing I shouldn’t have touched and now urgently need to do !!!!! EXHAUST EXHAUSTED LOL 😂.
Used to the German TÜV here (who hated 2CVs back in their day...) I always wonder what to make of a British MOT. I’d say it’s virtually impossible to get your car through inspection in Germany and the very next day the exhaust fails... the inspector would have poked his screwdriver right through it, raised his brow, and send you homeward, tae think again! Britain sure is a classic car paradise.
To be fair, it only failed because I left the weight of the exhaust hanging on that weak point...
@@HubNut It didn't only fail due to that. Sure, letting the exhaust dangle as you did is never a good idea, but on this occasion reckon it saved you the indignity of the swan neck letting go on the way to the NEC...
@@dizzy2020 or, as the French saying goes, some people know the law, and some people know the judge 😀
You could well be right Jono.
Oh dear
Hope all goes well and enjoy the trip in Elly with or without the exhaust.;......
I was told by an old hand (sadly no longer with us) that the shorter side exit tailpipe you have can cause problems. In this case the swan neck is clearly rotten though.
You do have to modify the rear hanger slightly to give enough support. Just tighten it up with a cable tie. Sorted.
@@HubNut TBH I have a short tailpipe (insert your own rude funny) on my pickup kit and other than having to replace the perished rubbers it hasn't been an issue (yet).
So you just wrap the tie around the outside of the rubber and pull it tight?
Yup. Just restricts movement enough to stop failure elsewhere.
@@HubNut Nice - thanks. To quote a certain chainstore - every little helps👍.
I have an irritating exhaust leak between the cast iron manifold and heat exchanger that pops up every once in a while. Down to some misalignment it doesn't quite seat properly. I'm awaiting a major exhaust component fail and replacement (might include stainless) before I cure it forever but for now I dawb it up with muffler paste and clamp as best I can.
Oh dear, I think we all spoke to soon about the joy of seeing Elly on the road again. Time for that stainless steel exhaust.
She still looks clean enough for a waterless carwash...I've tried cheap ones but prefer Greased Lightning Show Room Shine with a few big floofy microfibre cloths. If you can some how bring a bucketful of water, Optima Rinseless car wash is pretty good, when I use it, I prefer to finish off the job using a good waterless carwash though. You'll have her looking her best in less than an hour.
Loving the vids on Elly, Might have to get myself another 2cv.
Might I suggest a waterless car wash, been using one on my car for a year now. If it's not caked on it works fine.
Ian I think you should try and build
a car out of all the spare bits you’re swimming in haha
I hope you get Elly's exhaust sorted for the big show. 🤞
I'm looking forward to seeing you and "Furious" Matt Richardson on Saturday.
Poor Elly
another great video has always Ian and miss hubnut and hublets and hubmutts 👍
oh my !! hope she is fixed soon 😀
I really like the idea of detailed reviews of your own cars.
Congratulations on getting rid of all the non-runners. Elly was going to need the exhaust replaced so she just decided to tell you that she wanted a new one now.
I can remember my Dyanne had a raspy note from the exhaust when revving it.
Not much difference with the exhaust part missing as with the full system fitted.
The mice would like to thank you for leaving your personal bits in the unit untouched for years
Nice to see the Elly content again. Not related to Elly but how cool would a trailer be for TWC. Imagine the ventures she could go on then! 🤯
I remember I went to a Kwik Fit for an oil change of the Matra Murena, was afraid they had to order it, turned out the Chrysler-Simca engine took 2CV filters and they had it on the shelf! (OK, that won't help you finding the 2CV oil filters in your unit). At least exhausts for a 2CV are still available, for my cars I had to have them made in stainless steel. And every French car seems to have dents in the doors, so it makes Elly even more "because French". 😁
Hope Elly gets the exhaust in time for the show
Hubnut firstly adjustable clutch luxury and replacing exhaust systems been there done that
Poor Elly, but it does nicely demonstrate than an MOT is only good on the day you get it!
I do need to point out that the exhaust would not have just failed if I hadn't touched it...
I'm gonna call that less than ideal. Nothing like a deadline to focus the mind!
Sounds like it's been modified without a exuast, hopefully you get a new stainless steel exhaust to replace the rusty one
Oh poor Elly. Looking at the bright side at least she showed her broken zorst before the journey to the classic car show an not miles from anywhere. Elly is now a working car earning her keep from that extended period of sick leave and I think maybe a quick sponge over will be fine for the NEC. We subscribers I'm sure would just be chuffed to see her and not too bothered if she has a shampoo and set. As for the complete fleet it would be interesting to have a mini Hubnut Video Car Show with all cars cleaned (something the the Hublets could help out with maybe), some history about each model and a highlight edit of each one in action on some of the past adventures. Another thought would be a collection of bloopers.
I've seen a few 2CVs with really smart stainless exhausts, often exiting out the side just before the rear wheel! Edit: I see you've already got the side exit exhaust set up.
7:39 Fingers crossed!🤞
nearside front door....just explain it as a bit of "hammer finish"
Maybe you could arrange for a cooperation with someone who does dent-removal on the show. So you might get rid of the mishap to Ellie's door..
Had a 4 speed in a 70 fastback run out of lube, where the fastest free spinning gear (1st) instantly welded itself to the shaft at 70mph. Ford 302W handled the RPMs no problem. The car rapidly decelerated to around 40, when the front u-joint broke. Fortunately I didn't pole vault, but it wrapped up the exhaust and pulled the tailpipe clean over the diff, changing it's profile just a bit to say the least. After clearing all that mess off of the driveshaft, I changed the u-joint on the side of the road (had a spare) while fortunately traffic built up along the old J&L mills in Pittsburgh PA, on the parkway. Drove a mile off the parkway in walking speed rush hour traffic with no exhaust and stuck in first, with about another 3/4 mile to get home.
Typical you did mention a new stainless one eventually ... lol Elly must have heard you and wanted a sexy new stainless one straight away .... another exellent though not exactly what you wanted whilst showing us knackered rubber mountings hope you sort her out tommorow ,Neil
Ah well, the exhaust on early 2CVs, probably up to the 1960s, didn't really go beyond the crossbox. The 'tail pipe' was right under the driver's (LHD) feet.
ah ha ha ha... 'it was fine until'..... ha ha ha.. you're a gas man.. i love the videos as you have your own way of doing things hubnuttily of course.. it's great you got rid of the scrap, take care of the ones you love and bin/sell the rest.. you remind me of myself, an artist with a car hobby..
Think as you say for future proofing the investment of a stainless system will be better in the long run once you decide on her power unit.
I suppose the shuffling of cars means that they are liable to be run for a few minutes and then shut off without reaching temperature. That is bad news for exhausts as the initial condensation does not evaporate off. My 2008 Chevrolet Spark still has its original exhaust with no repairs needed so far.
I generally try to avoid doing that for exactly that reason. Not always easy.
Close call with the exhaust. It could have parted company on the motorway and that would have been all sorts of bad! Hope the new one turns up in time.
I doubt it would have failed without my intervention. The exhaust hanger could have though...
What a cliffhanger 😗
At least it didn't fail off on the motorway - could have been nasty if it snagged something at speed. Memories of temporarily repairing a fractured exhaust with a Coke can, wire and a hose clip in the dark near Mansfield lying in snow....
Straight-pipe it, it won't be tiresome on a long run at all, honest! 😄
How cars like this keep passing UK MOT’s when the exhaust is clearly defective is really beyond me. Other countries this would just be completely unacceptable. Elly really seems like a car that’s hanging in there by a thread tbh.
The exhaust is not a structural component of the car so it will only be checked for leaks, emissions and type compliance (eg Cat, DPF AdBlu where applicable) if it wasnt leaking when MOT tested then Bobs yer uncle - or in Wales Dai's yer daddy 😃
Perhaps she could bring Miss Daisy to the NEC instead on this occasion as it seems Elly is having issues & time is not on your side !! Best of luck regardless 👍👍👍
We'll see how tomorrow goes...
did the wof guys not noticed any weakness in the exhaust?
Yes, the tester noticed it and it was an official advisory. Would have held firm for a while had not someone started messing around with it...
Straight thru CV2 Yoooo
Elly has told me she wants some Zoomie headers up through the bonnet, she dreams of being a racing car. 😁
Classic old school HubNut light tinkering vid, thanks very much! Is the old conversion that you put on the dud Croatia engine something that could be transferred across to another block? It hasn't done many miles and isn't part of the failure. Or was it?!
We will investigate that engine to see what failed, and whether the barrels and pistons were damaged...
Opps! At least it didn't happen while you were on your way to the show, that's something I suppose.
Dare I say.... I think it sounded pretty good without an exhaust 😅😂
It's definitely not your fault that the structurally unsound exhaust broke when you investigated the mounts. Motors are always a voyage of discovery. It's a peculiar thing just how we often blame ourselves for things out of our control. I've spent most of my life attempting to train myself not to!
Oh that's not good Ian.
Will you be live streaming from the NEC this year? Previous ones have been immensely entertaining.
Hoping to Livestream 9am Friday morning, before the show opens.
At times you must be exhausted..... after what these cars put you through 👀🚗🇬🇧. Over here in Arizona it'll take 30/40 years for your exhaust system to get a couple of pinholes in it 😀........ that's IF you don't go modifying it in the first place 🚗.....
Off topic but...when do festival of the unexceptional tickets go on sale? Hope you get her there!
Usually announced February time.
@@HubNut Ah good! Chuck us a reminder please good man!!
Don't be embarrassed by Elly! She wears her years with pride!
4:16 Is that your stuff up against the wall?
Nope.
I had to have my exhaust replaced recently at the cost of £175 as it had corroded and had a hole in it and was blowing my car is only 2010 Peugeot 207 ( because French ) lol 😂
Oooo who needs gravity!
Never noticed dents in her door before
Happened in the engine swap video...
Is there any of the original 2CV left? Or is it all replacement parts?
Small sections of the bodyshell, the suspension cylinders and the rear suspension arms are original. And the speedometer.
@@HubNut Insert "Only Fools and Horses" reference here.... >
@John Moruzzi broom broom!
@@johnf5817 Basil "Brush" ????
Are 2CV's easy to work on
To the uninitiated, sounds like a 720 to me.👍
The suspension cylinder bump stop doesn't look happy either.