@@danmaguire3067 because levels of common sense differ from person to person and common sense is based on the context of a situation. Thus meaning that two similar circumstances could have differing outcomes. Consistency means that similar circumstances are treated equally the same.
The stupid thing is the rules, there are some things that VAR cant look at. Its a joke casemiro slides wins the ball his momentum takes his stud across the oponents shin and VAR can check it and its a red card, but aparently the ref saw the mings foul as an attempt to get the ball with momentum being the only reason he caught Gapko, VAR had to go with the refs decision. You couldnt make this crap up.
Agree with u bro,like diaz's goal that they said it was offside,and when the reffree ask var rom,they not say : oh it is on side,not offside,but they said something that make me think they in competence...
They have already explained it. It was a subjective decision by the referee to deem Konsa deflected the ball. He didn't deem it as a deliberate play by Konsa. Simple. Genuinely don't know what everyone wants. The culture in football now is not to want to try and understand why decisons have been made and then accept them, the culture amongst football supporters, coaches and players is now just to want to argue why everyone else is wrong and they are right.
@Paul O'Hare there's your problem. If in doubt it the benefit goes to the attacking team in an offside decision. Its in the rules. Its there to stop incidents like this and to remain objective, not to leave it to the subjective opinion of a ref with possible unconscious bias.
the rule is (new as of this year) that if the defender has a deliberate attempt to play the ball and it does to an attacking in an offside position, its not offside because of the deliberate attempt. But if there is a deflection of a defending player and it rebounds to an attacker in an offside position it is offside. Referees have to judge if it was a deliberate attempt or deflection in order to get this call’s correct.
@@oharepd Did you watch the replay. The Villa player purposely hit the ball to try and kick it out but at this point it doesn’t matter because top 4 is over.
@Paul O'Hare - The problem with this situation is that it assumes intent in favour of the defender. If a player tries to block a pass/shot then they have deliberately attempted to change the course of the ball. Ergo their touch should play others on side.
If the ref blew for a pen then it would'nt been over turned by VAR but i think Hendo goes down to easy so yes contact but not enough to over turn the refs original call. Not all contact is a foul. Lfc fan btw i would hate if that was given against us!
@@HenneDS03 so you're saying VAR couldnt decide whether it was deliberate or not? They have all the video evidence at their disposal. Every football pundit and commentator said he deliberately played the ball. Konsa literally lifted his foot up to his waist to make contact with the ball. Therefore Van Dijk cannot be offside if it comes off a villa player. I've seen this exact situation against us before when Lovern was adjudged to have played the ball, missed the ball trying to boot it and went through to kane who was standing offside and scored. That goal stood btw. 🤷♂️
@@ajthandi9659 the Loveren one you've literally just described a deliberate play. The ref had to go to the monitor because it was a subjective call as to deliberate play by Konsa or not. It wasn't a matter of fact. As it was subjective another referee may have come to a different conclusion.
Bro don't explain these basic things to the Bin dipper LiVARpool scum. They always play victim. They know nothing about other clubs woes and act like they are in a bad spot all the time. One of the richest clubs on earth telling others how bad they have it. Clowns. They have zero self awareness.
Over these 2 decisive decisions😂 It still blows my mind , being from Liverpool , that Americans are walking round LA in our kit ,talking about the next game with their boys 😂 imagine in the UK if you were getting hyped over the next Minnesota vikings game everyone would call u gay 😂
i think this season all the referees are beting there bets against Liverpool any team we play with they are against the Reds 🤔🥺🥺 they have to remember we Never walk Alone 💯💯💯❤️❤️❤️
Things could still get worse for Liverpool. Most early kickoff games in PL, tons of unfair calls against, injury-prone and what else. They just keep playing. What a spirit
Cody Gakpo is definitely very unfairly treated by the refree with Ming bad tackle! A red card should be given! Poor Gakpo the fsg should probe with serious view in this dangerous tackle! 😢😰
Listen if jota can avoid a sending off for kicking skipp in the head then get over it when a player of yours gets a similar foul and the culprit isn’t sent off
The ref in this game was the guy Klopp squared upto when we got winner against spurs..., how is that allowed? Also why was klopps touchline ban kept till we played last home game and not the following game from the incident. There is a serious agenda against klopp from these refs.
At first I thought var hates Liverpool, but after few match, Liverpool also gets advantages from var, so it safe to assume that VAR is simply incompetent
I want Skipp to get a red card for his leg breaking attempt in the first half, he shouldnt even have been on the pitch to be kicked in the head by Jota. You Spurs fans sure have selective memory.
Making it more stupid was that the coach was banned from sitting in the touchline during this match because kloop complained about the same things in the previous game
Not a Liverpool fan but the refereeing in the pl is total bs, and it keeps happening all the time cuz the refs keeps getting away from everything without any punishments or fines
Another example of a bad decision was when the referee didn't send off jota against spurs and if the referees hadn't been dumb then it would have been 3-3 full time
100% agree, the officials have been so poor this season, some strange decisions, far too inconsistent
Yes referres (premier league one) sucks like it supposed to be 3-1 or 2-1
Do you want Consistency or common sense?
@@oharepd why can't we have both 🤷
@@danmaguire3067 because levels of common sense differ from person to person and common sense is based on the context of a situation. Thus meaning that two similar circumstances could have differing outcomes. Consistency means that similar circumstances are treated equally the same.
@@danmaguire3067If it wasn't for refs you would be battling relegation
Crazy this was 5 months ago, VAR still shit 🤣
Crazy this comment was 1 month ago , VAR still shit🤣
Stop blaming VAR, blame the shitty people running it.
Ofc
Jesus loves you ✝️
VAR been shit
6 VAR ref have been sacked in La Liga. Why it is not the same for EPL?
Like the VAR doesn’t know how to do their job (100% agree)
The stupid thing is the rules, there are some things that VAR cant look at. Its a joke casemiro slides wins the ball his momentum takes his stud across the oponents shin and VAR can check it and its a red card, but aparently the ref saw the mings foul as an attempt to get the ball with momentum being the only reason he caught Gapko, VAR had to go with the refs decision. You couldnt make this crap up.
no var is actually a very good thing as you can actually stand by the rules a lot more clearly its just the refs behind it that gives it a bad look.
Well, now we know...
Agree with u bro,like diaz's goal that they said it was offside,and when the reffree ask var rom,they not say : oh it is on side,not offside,but they said something that make me think they in competence...
Corruption.
That's all it is
coming from liverpool, ur point ain't valid
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@unusual0.035how
@@unusual0.035 U obviously haven't watched Liverpool this season
Not corruption it happens to every team its just embarrassing officials
Best league, worst refs
Klopp would of been sent off again if he was on the sideline to witness that
As a Newcastle fan, this is absolutely disgusting refereeing and Liverpool should receive compensation .
Can you update us with what they say about the offside call because that is just ridiculous..
They have already explained it. It was a subjective decision by the referee to deem Konsa deflected the ball. He didn't deem it as a deliberate play by Konsa. Simple. Genuinely don't know what everyone wants.
The culture in football now is not to want to try and understand why decisons have been made and then accept them, the culture amongst football supporters, coaches and players is now just to want to argue why everyone else is wrong and they are right.
@Paul O'Hare there's your problem. If in doubt it the benefit goes to the attacking team in an offside decision. Its in the rules. Its there to stop incidents like this and to remain objective, not to leave it to the subjective opinion of a ref with possible unconscious bias.
the rule is (new as of this year) that if the defender has a deliberate attempt to play the ball and it does to an attacking in an offside position, its not offside because of the deliberate attempt.
But if there is a deflection of a defending player and it rebounds to an attacker in an offside position it is offside.
Referees have to judge if it was a deliberate attempt or deflection in order to get this call’s correct.
@@oharepd Did you watch the replay. The Villa player purposely hit the ball to try and kick it out but at this point it doesn’t matter because top 4 is over.
@Paul O'Hare - The problem with this situation is that it assumes intent in favour of the defender.
If a player tries to block a pass/shot then they have deliberately attempted to change the course of the ball. Ergo their touch should play others on side.
we need foreign referees
Yasssss
Too true
As a villa fan the refs were shocking
❤ i love villa . Utv
Don’t forget the pen vs Hendo
The whole game was rigid now we can't do anything but very bad calls form reff so 😢
If the ref blew for a pen then it would'nt been over turned by VAR but i think Hendo goes down to easy so yes contact but not enough to over turn the refs original call. Not all contact is a foul. Lfc fan btw i would hate if that was given against us!
@@randomly1552 I think it’s as much contact as their pen
@@randomly1552u guys got jammy we would of beat you if Watkins didn’t put it wide
I may be a City fan but GET RID OF THESE REFS RN
Anybody seeing this after the Spurs game??
Yep. It’s a fricking joke the way we’re being treated by refs.
The refs are all United fans
Me
Me
I know why! They probably had Mings on Sorare
Lol
😂😂😂
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7 months later and var has yet to improve
It’s just crazy, how the referee’s act. Even now it’s like that
I can’t believe that VAR is still a WIP. You’d think they would have the process nailed down by now.
Wolves and Liverpool - plagued with bad decisions...
As a liverpool fan I agree that the tackle on gakpo was a yellow because mings went for the ball and hit gakpo
I feel the same pain as a Brighton fan from Serbia...
Why did the ref have to go to the monitor for an offside call after it went to VAR?
Because it wasnt just an offside or not Call it was to decide whether it was a deliberate play
@@HenneDS03 so you're saying VAR couldnt decide whether it was deliberate or not? They have all the video evidence at their disposal. Every football pundit and commentator said he deliberately played the ball. Konsa literally lifted his foot up to his waist to make contact with the ball. Therefore Van Dijk cannot be offside if it comes off a villa player.
I've seen this exact situation against us before when Lovern was adjudged to have played the ball, missed the ball trying to boot it and went through to kane who was standing offside and scored. That goal stood btw. 🤷♂️
@@ajthandi9659 im saying they decided it wasnt deliberate, but i agree its a mistake i was crying about it too
@@ajthandi9659 the Loveren one you've literally just described a deliberate play.
The ref had to go to the monitor because it was a subjective call as to deliberate play by Konsa or not. It wasn't a matter of fact. As it was subjective another referee may have come to a different conclusion.
I can see the argument for it both being a deliberate play and not a deliberate play
I agree with this but I swear. Liverpool fans got an accuse for everything.
100% agree I’m a Villa fan and how did we get away with that one these refs are just getting absolutely disgusting 👎🏻
Technology, ironically encourages laziness, and deteriorates the authenticity and love of the game
regarding the mings tackle, jota did the same tackle against tottenham yet he wasnt send off and would go on to win the game for liverpool
Bro don't explain these basic things to the Bin dipper LiVARpool scum.
They always play victim.
They know nothing about other clubs woes and act like they are in a bad spot all the time.
One of the richest clubs on earth telling others how bad they have it.
Clowns.
They have zero self awareness.
Because "Football betting corporations" always dominate decisions from VAR and referees on the field.
Anyone seen this after burnley and gakpo’s ruled out goal?
We have to admit var will only give a red if someone break there 2 legs
100% agree that the VAR never knows how to do their job
Short out there issues got me laughing
Sort not short😂😂
Over these 2 decisive decisions😂
It still blows my mind , being from Liverpool , that Americans are walking round LA in our kit ,talking about the next game with their boys 😂 imagine in the UK if you were getting hyped over the next Minnesota vikings game everyone would call u gay 😂
Mings is a dirty player. Stamped on two guy's faces in the past (Zlatan and Oliveira)
Anyone here watching this after the Newcastle match against psg?
The corruption is strong within the officials
i think this season all the referees are beting there bets against Liverpool any team we play with they are against the Reds 🤔🥺🥺 they have to remember we Never walk Alone 💯💯💯❤️❤️❤️
I agree. They all hate us. YNWA❤
In all honesty you can say the same for you against spurs when jota kicked skipp in the head
Things could still get worse for Liverpool. Most early kickoff games in PL, tons of unfair calls against, injury-prone and what else. They just keep playing. What a spirit
Cody Gakpo is definitely very unfairly treated by the refree with Ming bad tackle! A red card should be given! Poor Gakpo the fsg should probe with serious view in this dangerous tackle! 😢😰
Listen if jota can avoid a sending off for kicking skipp in the head then get over it when a player of yours gets a similar foul and the culprit isn’t sent off
The problem is the prem, using umpires in a football game insted of a ref 💯
The ref in this game was the guy Klopp squared upto when we got winner against spurs..., how is that allowed? Also why was klopps touchline ban kept till we played last home game and not the following game from the incident. There is a serious agenda against klopp from these refs.
100% agree. The officials have been so inconsistent and poor this season. Some really strange decisions. If you will miss Jurgen click here
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This shit is happening again against our rival VARcity. I guess I am retiring with Klopp
Don't give up bro , we are going to win the title
@@albertjoefrancy7309 ameen brother. inshaAllah
Don't forget Jota didn't get a red for kicking someone in the face
I mean, for Ming’s, how did Jota not get a red for a very similar challenge against Skipp last year
I’m done like var hates us Liverpool fans first Tottenham now it is Aston villa
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Refs make some absolute bollocks calls at times, with VAR, though, it's not forgivable.
Bad decisions but I guess we can’t complain since we have had lucky decisions recently
Other than the jota decision i don't think we had been lucky recently or all season
@@ragibanjumarnob9048 Konate foul on Richarlison and jones offside goal all recently and some others throughout the season
@@J_editzzzzjones goal was onside but i agree the konate decision could of been a pen
@@ragibanjumarnob9048wolves
Im still fuming about arsenal early on in the season. Clear handball, jesus dive, and saka offside
As a Villa fan I don’t see a problem it was a clean tackle and he weren’t offside he was onside.
This minecraft character likes to cry
As a Villa fan, I agree with the first one. I didn’t see it. Mings should’ve gone. However, I believe the offside was correct
The same guy gave vvd a red card and his officiating was qstionable agn yestaday
Nah I'm happy about the decisions villa are so underrated so yh.
All the Premier league refs are pucking shite
The ref wants liverpool vs barcalona in europa lueague😂😂😂😂
As a villa fan we needed that point otherwise no Europa conference league but decisions definitely wrong
this feels like guate vs Jamaica gold cup quarter finals 2023
Yes. The refs need to get checked. Not by VAR. That needs checking too
Gakpo got kicked in the torso exactly how Suarez got caught the same way in 13/14 season
im a villa fam and i know we shouldnt have wom
won i mean
@@DanielGreenclose draw*
should have been a good 3 - 3 game
The officials are good to everybody, but Liverpool😂
At first I thought var hates Liverpool, but after few match, Liverpool also gets advantages from var, so it safe to assume that VAR is simply incompetent
I feel u bro i hate villa
Hope u guys win the leauge now that we are out of the tittle race
Arsenal fan here. VAR is trash. It's one of the worst mistakes that soccer has made.
Nothing beats refereeing from 2009😂
What about that tackle Nigel De Jong did on Xabi Alonso in the world cup final 2010???
*I’m blind, I’m deaf. I wanna be a ref!*
Love this fellow liverpool fan 🔴
Yea they are so annnyoih as a united fan
the var room is hating on liverpool this season ngl
I guess LiVARpool are getting revenge after relying on VAR
VAR in the premier League is the worst
I don't want to hear complaints from Liverpool fans until Jota gets a red card for kicking Skipp in the face
Its not just liverpool fans, refreeing as whole is bringing the league down. Fans should be uniting against it.
Then Skipp should've been sent off for stamping Diaz
Well Jota got a red card against spurs on Saturday for nothing
I want Skipp to get a red card for his leg breaking attempt in the first half, he shouldnt even have been on the pitch to be kicked in the head by Jota.
You Spurs fans sure have selective memory.
@@officialrebel_ not a spurs fan just hate liverpool
cody's injury is insane WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU NOT MAKING THAT A FOUL OR A SEND OFF,THIS REFEREE IS STRAIGHT BS
Making it more stupid was that the coach was banned from sitting in the touchline during this match because kloop complained about the same things in the previous game
Says you when jota bloody tried to kill the spurs player
Yeah how diogo jota didn't get a red for kicking oliver skipp
This referee was the 4th official for the Spuds game. Personal vendetta with Klopp seems like a reasonable explanation.
Obviously THEY hate LFC becoming CHAMPION
Var has been shit all season
Var is good but the refs are choosing not to use it sometimes and make bad decisions because of that
Retaliation. Plain and simple.
Even when Liverpool faced spurs it was onside by Luis diaz
the world is against liverpool 💔😭
Not a Liverpool fan but the refereeing in the pl is total bs, and it keeps happening all the time cuz the refs keeps getting away from everything without any punishments or fines
According to PGMOL, Mings' tackle had "no foul play" involved.
When I heard “the Villa game” I thought 7-2 😂😂😂😂
var the worst thing that's happened in football since the off side law was introduced .
The worst part is the refs are never forced to explain themselves or back their decisions. They hide away and the league protects them ridiculous.
Yeah var still shit sure we all remember the 90 + 9 minutes yolk from the city game. Shoulda been a penalty
That kind of contact should be in the MMA ring
It was offside and plus that foul was an accident I’m a villa fan remember that 7-2 Aston Villa win
Another example of a bad decision was when the referee didn't send off jota against spurs and if the referees hadn't been dumb then it would have been 3-3 full time
Liverpool after klopp goes we should aim at Jose M as he knows how to win, he is also good at getting the best out of players.
Yeah the ref turned a blind eye
Outrageous how a Liverpool fan is complaining about this….
Ming's didn't get a red because Jota didn't get a red against spurs
As a AVFC fan I believe that the tackle was dangerous and a red card even though I love Mings.
Fast forward and now it was doku on maca