Wink Martindale storms out and resigns | Boomer and Gio
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- Boomer and Gio talk about Wink Martindale and how the Defensive coordinator got into a screaming match with Head Coach Brian Daboll before storming out and boarding a flight to Florida.
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Daboll is the boss at the end of the day. He went ahead and fired McGaughey and Johnson even if he didn’t want to. The goal is to make changes to improve. Daboll now needs to find someone better at DC.
That's right and it's important to remember that Bobby Johnson is a close friend and dabes still did what he had to do. Why is it not ok to fire one or two of Winks for under-performing? Dabes is the boss not Wink
Then he should fire his boy Kafka first..offense is horrible even worse than the D.
For argument sake, how is Bobby Johnson’s firing equivalent to firing the Wilking bros? I ask because Johnson had a line with two top-10 picks, an early second and two veterans and it looked awful. Outside LB for the Giants consists of…
@Chalk89 both offensive line and outside linebackers were not developing. There's a #5 Overall pick in the olb group too and he isn't nearly as developed as he should be. Kayvon had 11.5 sacks but that was against bad tackles. He is horrible playing the run and so is the rest of our "pass rushers/run defenders. Wilkins deserved to go just like Johnson
@@David-tg3sfmaybe Kafka is down to let Daboll play call
Imagine being the head coach, in the middle of the season, and you’re losing, in large part because some of your best players are injured. And then you turn on the TV and see Glazer telling the country that you have a coaching feud. If I’m the head coach, I’m gonna clean that up at the end of the season. I like Wink but if his “side” planted that story, then so long, dude.
100%
My exact thoughts dude ! Well said.
@@natenasty911 thanks. I thought of what Parcells or Coughlin would have done, and couldn’t imagine either of them putting up with that inside their coaching staff. A strong rule of any business is to avoid making your boss look bad.
Exactly. If Wink brings in 'his guy' who turns out to be a leaker or somehow untrustworthy, then Wink needs to go for bringing in a guy like that. You attach yourself at the hip with your tag-alongs. Daboll knew where this was headed, and it had to be done. Resigning, you don't get paid.
@@MoMoMyPup10 💯
Giants third highest blitz rate,27th in sacks.that's a problem folks
Yes, that Joe Schoen and the previous regime can’t find pass rushers.
lawrence, williams are really good, we have thibs and ojulari who are solid... the linebacker group isnt great but he definitely had the tools@@Chalk89
Facts
@@Chalk89also facts lol
Wink’s last year with Ravens in ‘21 we had prob highest blitz rates and subpar defense and it’s because Wink wants to blitz even when it’s predictable and even when the ravens didn’t have the personnel (we had injuries at corner that year) to cover and gave up big plays. Wink wouldn’t change. If this sounds familiar, it’s Wink.
Dabes should call Belichick see if he wants to take over as defensive coordinator 😂😂😂
Bears... Budd Ryan and Mike Ditka...
It sounds like to me with the information we have currently Wink is the problem here. The only reason Daboll wouldn’t announce the firings of Winks guys at the press conference is because he had enough respect for Wink to not let him hear it through the media. Dabs did the right thing imo and sat him down man to man. It’s kind of absurd to hear any “professional” cursed out their boss in response to a decision he clearly made for the team. I think it would be great if we went out and brought Antonio Pierce home.
Yeah that would be cool and sort of a coming full circle thing.I know he wants that head coaching job though for the Raiders but Jim Harbaugh has hinted if he leaves Michigan he wants to be the Raiders head coach
Giants should give Antonio Pierce or Leslie Frazier a call.
Yes if Pierce is available!
I be hesitant on Pierce he’s never been a DC before … his biggest attribute is that he is a leader of men and that can’t be shortchanged. But again he would be a gamble as a hire
@@FINEST-uk8ncit’s moot point now as Pierce is now a HC for the Raiders and deserves the Job
It's funny to read fans saying, 'look at what happened to Wink in Baltimore!!!' Meanwhile, Brian Daboll and Sean McDermott can't even look each other in the eye...
50 bucks says Leslie Frasier is Daboll's first call
First call was to Dunkin Donuts
@@mattm385then Joes Pizza
Of course it will be -- a no-brainer.
Wink Martindale had the same issues with Baltimore which is why he left them in the first place. You can't have a DC that doesnt think he has to answer to the head coach. I say good riddance. It's not like the Giants were the '85 Bears this yrear.
It’s Wink’s Big Personality and Ego that always gets him into trouble, He’s the Type that wears out his Welcome at almost every stop he goes
Wink is going to pull a Larry David and just show up back to work.
thats a very funny story
Awesome😂
Our problems far exceed wink martindale
A lot of fall guys for the ineptitude of Brian Daboll, Joe Schoen.
Wink acted like a baby and she's gonna act like that and let his emotions rule his life. I don't want him as my coach Anymore.
😂😂
Did you not hear what him and his side guys were doing? These guys were acting as their own coach. Of course they were gonna get fired they were revolving
wink wants to be a head coach. wink tried to undercut brian.
All of Daboll's screaming better result in wins next year.
Wink Martindale is a big baby!!!!!!!!!!
Daball is also 😂😂😂
… but he’s also a great defensive mind.
In daboll we trust
Schoen too.
Why?? I entered the season w/ high expectations based on the hype - and the misplaced “trust” in DABOLL and Shoen that u guys still seem to have. My question is - WHY? ….as for the high expectations - the season was literally OVER in less than 15 minutes!!! SERIOUSLY! W/in 15 minutes of that Cowboy game - it was clear that this Offensive Line was not just PUTRID, but historically PUTRID! Literally the worst O- line in - not just Giants history - but in NFL history…. How could DABOLL & Schoen not be aware of that? How??
lol enjoy 6-8 wins next year
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I am with you daball kinda sucks josh Allen balled out and they thought he had something to do with it he might stink as a coach.
Wink's Defense was good, he deserves a shot at coaching believe it, i would like my Giants to go back to 3-4 or 4-3 defense has always been a Giants way...
When you guys find out let me know…. I live 10min away from Sarasota, I’ll ask him. 😂
Well Wink Martindale defense won a national championship at Michigan and may win the super bowl at Baltimore.
Food for thought.
If Wink brings in a guy who turns out to be a leaker or somehow untrustworthy, then Wink needs to go for bringing in a guy like that. Daboll knew where this was headed, and it had to be done. Resigning you don't get paid.
Daboll should have discussed with Martindale and if friction or resistance was encountered....fire him too.
If it’s not drama, it’s not Giants! We’ve literally become a reality tv show! We don’t win anymore, we make headlines like the freaking Kardashians.
If they redid Back to the Future 2 boomer would be the perfect Biff
🤣🤣🤣
Daboll’s ego got in the way here.. I don’t care about the details.. the facts are this- the Giants defense was the 1 (of very few) bright spots this year. Wink’s schemes and coaching was pivotal. Not saying he is irreplaceable, but don’t be shocked if this defense takes a step back next year.
In My Day (Damn.....I'm old), Wink Martindale was a game show host. A kinda Bob Barker Lite. This Wink just lost on the "So You Wanna Be Coach" game.
Agree with Boomer. Both Daboll and Wink are alpha head coaches. Even last year when they were winning, watching both of them on sidelines it seems Daboll seemed insecured due to winks success in some key plays due to which NYG ended up winning. And this year wink at least had NYG defense play well after first 4 games and players were more inclined to like wink. Daboll needed full control and did not want to lose respect as a head coach and insecurity led to all these firings of assistant coach which eventually led to wink resignation and angered him. Daboll smartly fired offensive assistant coach he brought with him along with winks assistant coach, to act that he was firing them on merit. And later in news conference stated he expected wink to be back but he really did not want that. This was all set up by Daboll to push wink out. Daboll is a politician and wink is a creative playmaking coach with big ego with angry head. Daboll and Wink both are at fault and Joe seems to support Daboll obviously. They both are in this together. Mara is not a leader, he cannot create a cohesive environment. If next year NYG struggles then NY media and fans are going to make Dabolls life hell. NYG top to bottom is a mess. No sane free agent would like to come and play for NYG in such poisonous environment. Last few years there was Dave Gettlemen and Joe judge shenningans and now Daboll and Joe on the same path. Good god not sure when NYG will get a break and fans wil able to enjoy good old NYG hard nose efficient winning football game.
can they please fire Daniel Jones? Thanks
By by winkie dinkie doo. Insubordination in 2 places makes u the problem. Reminds me of Buddy Big mouth Ryan😅😅
Wink Martindale is a game show host. Lol
That's what i thought
I think more details will come out on this event.
Wink is like a Buddy Ryan type but not as good a DC… with that’s said I like but don’t love Daboll he also comes across a little as a hot head
I don't know the details but the defense scored a lot of points.. they keep us in game and also won some games for us. I knew he was too good and he would end up leaving. The N.Y Giants are best at shooting them selves in the foot.
obviously im not an expert but i gotta disagree. i think he had his moments as a defensive playcaller but it was an uber-aggressive scheme that relied a lot on getting sacks and pressures. not only that but his “right-hand man” in kevin wilkins was the outside lb/edge rusher coach, which was easily the weakest spot on the defense this season. sure, the defense generated a bunch of turnovers and kt got a lot of sacks this year, but the defense really wasn’t *that* good this year, especially when you take into account the amount of talent in that unit. it kinda sucks to see a (at least formerly) well-respected coordinator walk like this, but we were due for a change
I fucking knew it. He was the best part of the coaching staff and was to good and to smart to deal w the bullshit going on w the Giants.
storming out of a facility because your crappy positions coach got fired doesnt exude “smart.” just sounds childish and ignorant to whats best for the team
Ravens fired Wink because he does not listen and he does not adjust his coverages during games. Smart move by Giants to dump this big mouth wink.
From what I heard a few weeks ago is that Daboll just screams at his staff with no solutions. Just screams. Which means he’ll be spinning his wheels for the next few years with no real positive results.
Wink going to Seattle😊
Listening to these guys hardly clears anything up or tells you anything you didn’t already know!
They're not 'insiders', they're just commenters on what goes on
Brian Daboll is a joke. He may very well be a good coach but its only 1 winning season...barely. His personality mimics Belicheks persona, so it stinks, his faith in Daniel Jones is unjustified from 1 season, and they played a 3rd string QB whom everyone fell in love with the story over actual ability, including himself. Unlike the 3 HC buffoons before Daboll, he stands the best chance to win as HC, however, the attitude and constant mess surrounding New York, YET AGAIN, makes him no different than the losers prior.
Daboll needs to go!!!
Why the hell are ppl saying a big loss do you not remember the very first game?!?! Yes we had the takeaways but pts allowed and poor tackling. Idk I think we can find better
I suspect Daboll and Schoen will both be gone after next year IF the giants Do NOT fix the offensive line.
If they can do that it will solve many problems on offense:
1. Is DJ our guy
2. Get a running game going with pretty much any RB
3. Strong run game opens up opportunities for the receivers who are not world beaters
4. Wear down opposing defense with run game to create better opportunities in 4 th quarter
5. Keep the opponents offense off the field
Schoen picked Neal with #7
And now that seems like wasted lottery pick
Another wasted pick for Giants:
Kadarius
Ingram
Eli Apple
Deandre Baker
Meanwhile missing on great players in those drafts
That wasn’t Schoen fault but those drafts could have helped build a great offensive line I’ve the years
Last night I saw Tyler Linderbaum for the ravens playing well. He went late in first round two years ago
But instead Schoen took Evan Neal who looked lost in year 2
OMG. This guy's name is WINK MARTINDALE??? Really? Wasn't he hosting game shows about 20 years ago?
Dabs is wrong, he should have discussed any mid level coaching terminations with the OC and DC prior to moving forward
why would anybody hire Wink now
Buddy Ryan
i have siad forever wink is the new RR......
Why is a game show host hired to be DC to begin with?
Losing teams blame others for losing.
Wink a G I lived that MF.
Sucks.
But honestly we need better schemes vs teams.
Daboll's coaching style is the problem and its no sercret. These clowns refuse to hold Daboll accountable. Without Wink they probably are picking #1 in the draft.
You’re delusional. Wink is a CANCER. Only four years as Ravens’s DC and he wore out his welcome with Harbaugh. Obviously not a team first guy.
He needs to let them run a 4-3 defense and he blitzes way too much and at the wrong times
@keldorthebluemack that can said about any D.C. but when you cant get pressure with your base personel, you have to scheme it and when you cant rely on your offense to score points or even possess the ball for more then 3 plays, the defense will be worn down.
phuck Wink and the mullet he came on....leave w/ him! this is DABOLLS TEAM!!!!
@@LAKERS76 💯%!!!
YOU 2 GUY'S LOVE ADDING FUEL TO THE FIRE
Wink with relationship with J. Mara he mentions.
There can be only one head coach. Not two or three.
Wink overplayed his hand, he tried to undermine his head coach and that’s the start of a toxic culture.
BIG loss for the G MEN
100% deserved it our line backing outside line backers. Sucked aziz's ozarlury was trash none of our players have grown under these coaches
Giants coaching staff are all smoke and mirrors,they will suck next year as well maybe .500 at best
Giants will have a big setback Wink had the defense playing consistent all year and last year too. We will see what type of Coach Daboll is now.
You are delusional. For most of the year the defense couldn’t tackle jack sh:t while ALL SEASON gave up big play after big play and could not stop the run to save their lives. Wink was and always will be a liability… good riddance traitor.
I would love to curse out Dabol myself for putting his shitty offensive on the field this year. OOO-RAH!
Of course blame the player's when *hite coaches go wild !
Glad to see him leave. His defense was holding back kayvon Thibodaux. We do bot need a defensive scheme that takes over a month in the season for players to start getting.
So true
Usually a big fan of boomer . He is a class acts. But not a good look using the gd word
Lol. Ok snowflake.
What word?
Not that serious he's just showing emotion he didn't say SOB or drop a F bomb
or even buddy ryan!!!!
Boomer....sucks.. he needs to retire.
THE 2 BROTHERS WERE DOING A BAD JOB WITH THE EDGE RUSHERS KAYVON AND OTHERS