Man the uk fucked up and we're following your lead. Mass migration and closing down our speech little by little. Only difference between the US and the UK is.. we still got our guns.
@@jacobcohen9205 He didn't trash them he is just amplifying western propaganda. He is a perfect example for western narcissism without any moral compass. I mean when the arab guy mentions the banning of unpleasant opinions in France and Germany Kisin just replies with "countries have the right to ban enemy propaganda".. He calls a legitimate narrative about the ongoing genocide in Gaza "enemy propaganda".. This tells a lot about him.
Exactly… everyone wants to focus slavery on the British..yet ignores the lengths we went to to end it… and that’s excluding the 30 million slaves that are still around today..
How dare you treat "others" as equals to us whites? That's what the white progressive thought process can be honed down to in my opinion. If whites can be confronted, why no one else?
Exactly. The left and these student SJW would have you believe that Slavery is just a British thing, or racism can only be done by white people. Every other ethnic group are never racist. This is a component of the recent riots in the UK and the accusation of two tier policing. That regular white people were out protesting (not far right as they were portrayed), for multiple reasons. One being that certain ethnic groups are racist towards white people in the UK verbally, or just by their actions. But nothing is done about it. The police don't act (unless it's the other way around). It's not even talked about that white people can be the victims of racism. That was another reason for those riots.
Bradford in the UK is full of Pakistani people and other muslim "Majorities". Konstantin did very well and illustrated his points with clarity, whereby the panel members were left with delivering very weak arguments, clearly demonstrating their bigotry and ignorance.
@@peterevans3310there is a genocide. The Israeli monsters in government say it everyday! If there is no genocide in Gaza then there is no holocaust of Jews. How does that feel?
The Arab guy is moaning about 'free speech' in a country where he can openly criticise anybody and anything. When challenged, he says,'Let's not divert', lol. Give me fooking strength.
He really said there is more free speech in Qatar. Yeah as long as you praise your religion and your country. I seriously dislike intellectually dishonest people.
@@natalievu4399 Yea he had the audacity to criticize the Western freedom of speech while claiming Quatar has better freedom of speech when equating his ability to talk freely their dominant narrative with general freedom of speech...what an intellectually dishonest, lazy and silly perspective...
These people cannot stand to hear the truth about slavery. They have to cry and scream and interrupt him because it seems to cause them pain to listen to someone speak the truth. Crazy
@@Kunfucious577 sadly, being right doesn't matter in front of an angry mob with pitchforks, or banshees that won't stop screeching for 2 seconds so you can make a point. a lot of people now think screaming and talking constantly is a debate tactic rather than just total chaos.
Constantine the J3w's ancestors were killed by western values 6 millions of them. He defending the same western values 😅😅😅 it's call beat them so much you take the manhood out of them 😅😅😅
No free speech on RUclips though. I'm not allowed to say where Kisin originates from and neither does this channel say it even though it explains why he ignores the genocide in Gaza.
@@dtz1000 You have more free speech than I do here on YT, because I’ve been in their “naughty list” for years, so I most certainly can’t write those last three words in your comment.
I was born in Northern Sudan, I don’t lose sleep over any conflict or wars going on there. I accepted long ago that my people are not concerned with making developments to the country, the culture of war is what they love.
Unfortunately for us, many of your kinfolk we generously welcomed still brought that mentality to our homes. It would be better if people with your mindset weren't strip mined from your homelands. How will they ever improve if we take their most entrepreneurial minds?
I'm a debate in a majority white Christian country in our University. So many absolute clowns these days who seem to believe their propaganda over their own eyes.
I went to dinner with a friend. He believed that Trump should be imprisioned in Guantanamo. I asked him what about Biden when he threatened to withhold financial aid (1 Billion) if the prosecutor who was going after his son was not fired. He replied, I've never heard that.
Agreed. It’s woke idiots bowing down to the minorities and putting their feelings above the good of our nations as a whole that has led to town halls like this, men being allowed to compete in sports against women, a mass psychosis transgender epidemic and not being able to point out facts and blatant reality without being labeled one or multiple “isms”.
Yes. This is called taking advantage of weaknesss. In a very short period of time, Europe will by very little force and there is nothing you’ll be able to do about it. It’s all because they didn’t want to offend anyone.
Always struck me when poeple come to the west and then complain about everything about the west instead of being grateful of the opportunity. Take Canada, after ww2 they've welcomed a lot of people from europe (portugese, italian, irishman, and many eastern european countries) and today it's mostly from middle eastern and african countries. The europeans that came here we're grateful and really embraced to country , the people and the culture. They started buisness and got involved in their community. Immigrants come here today with a feeling that they deserved everything and that the whole western civilisation has abide to their way of life, the problem is it should be the other way around.
I totally agree. My grandfather came to Wales from Italy after WW2. During the war he fought in the Italian resistance movement against the Nazis and Fascists. One of his jobs was smuggling wounded RAF airman that had been shot down, over the mountains into Switzerland. After the war he was granted British citizenship because of the role that he played. He came to this country and worked hard and did well for himself. He was proud to be Italian but he was forever grateful to the UK because he appreciated the opportunities this country gave him and he integrated within his local community. He believed that you should never get anything unless you earned it. It's a pity a lot of immigrants coming here today don't seem to think this way. My grandfather would hate what this country has become.
That's because multiculturalism is a lie, and because some cultures are incompatible with others. We need to recognise that and refuse entry of incompatible cultures without apology. Period.
Absolutely! The amount of complaining you see from new immigrants really shows they aren't grateful for anything, least of which the new western country they moved to. If they hate the western world so much, then move back. Stop whining and expecting people to bow to you and your beliefs.
Ya but today Canada is dictatorship, also you discriminate evrybody and the present immigration laws are very different than that past you talk about !
You still didn't get it,you become a useless class to your Elite,they substituting you with them,listen to World Economic Forum sometimes, they engineers of social programs for World Elite,you useless to requirements.
Importing too many Arabs and other foreigners while ignoring their own self interests for diversity and tolerance. Look at what tolerance has done to the U.K. It has ruined it! Sadly by the time the leaders realize what’s happening it’ll be too late. The shortsightedness and arrogance of the people in charge is beyond comprehension. They really think they’ll be allowed to remain in power, they’re too stupid to understand that they’ll be the first ones taken out once the foreign culture becomes dominant over the native population which is happening right now at a record pace. Cheering on their own demise like a bunch of buffoons. You can’t make this 💩up
@Trigger-Nomicsfree speech allows people to come to a country and then whinge about it. However, it would be best for wveryone if you are going to do this, please just don't come.
Konstantin you are my hero. You’re intelligent, articulated and quite brave ! You speak for a lot of people who are too afraid to say how they are feeling! Keep up the good work young man .
26:09 was hilarious - dude thought it would fix everything by just having the media companies declare their biases. 🙄 Sure, let’s not make any laws that they aren’t allowed to publish known lies or propaganda, right? Here in the USA, our Supreme Court ruled that they are allowed to do that crap, and that obviously needs to be dealt with.
Hahahah and at 34:50 LMFAO this guy thinks we developed cars and the internet because of wars! Internet was made for our American government first, yes, but its use was for a multitude of things. The development of cars had nothing to do with wars whatsoever. What are these people smoking?!
The laughs really showed how ignorant and childish this audience is. I swear its rare to talk to a functioning adult these days in general. Lots of overgrown propagandized children. Very few genuinely knowledgeable people.
It's funny that he feels this way yet hates the USSR. Wasn't that just Russia winning? Sounds like he is ok to whine when he finds something he doesn't like.
Yet for some reason he hates 🇷🇺 for destroying 🇺🇦. He hates immigrants successfully invading the west and "destroying" western civilization. Why are these ok to "whine" about?
Its the slow conquering of Europe. Illegal immigrants are being funneled in and given money and hotels and having TONS of children. Meanwhile old fashioned English families are having 1, maybe 2 children and we really expect England to be English in 50 years? Something similar although not quite to the same degree is happening in America too.
But what about the morals behind it. Is there any morals behind colonialism other than greed. Subjugating others(losers as you refer to them) by any means possible which include but not limited to grape for the purpose of exploiting their resources. I always argue that colonization were successful because the Colonizers have a special taste for blood. It doesn't affect that conscience like it did others. Most nation that were colonized have culture or religion that make them treat outsiders with respect and this was exploited by the colonizers. So yes, colonization needs to be extensively discuss among people you refer to losers so that their generations can watch out and history is not lost.
@@adefilaomotayo2300yes. They are losers. Don’t get pissy ab it. One question though: why are Arabs complaining ab colonization? That’s the definition of hypocrisy.
Konstantin was listening to the questions, he picked up on the crux of the programming subversively being elevated, particularly with the context of slavery. He is very clever at picking up on the underlying point.
The main difference is that Konstantin considered their perspectives and understood their arguments - even if he chose to ignore certain aspects. The others, for the most part, could not see beyond their own concerns and hadn't even attempted to consider opposing perspectives.
I don't think you're being completely objective. Both Parties have destroyed this Country to only blame the other about EVERYTHING. With that said, the Left has done far more damage than the Right especially from 2012 on. This is coming from someone who doesn't like either Party. Cheers
When they need a scapegoat or just an excuse to confirm their feelings (he even used the word "emotionally"), it seems the TDS sets in, even if the discourse isn't in the US...lol
By going against the globalist agenda, he endangers Arab culture by possibly devaluing oil in the near future. That’s a direct and tangible threat to Islam, especially considering this entire political climate is a ploy to protect globalist assets.
why do people think this is an argument? she could probably do it in the majority on muslim country in the world, probably all except for a few of which was bombed to hell by invading forces .
These people who keep complaining about Western based countries can NEVER name a better place. They shouldn't come to these countries. The young man who said he has free speech in Quarter. Yes bc he doesn't criticize the gov. But in the following countries UK, US, CN, AU, Ireland He can criticize our governments and his government. 🤷
@@nonyab3843 Interesting! And yet censorship is rife! Free? People being arrested for protesting against mass immigration pushed by the Western politicians who have promised they would control it, but never do! Democratic? A system of supposed democracy where first past the post allows a minority unrepresentative group to control everything whilst being owned by corporations. I agree with you that this used to be what you think it is, but unaccountable politicians are destroying what it has been and should be. Central banks are the owners of all , I suggest you start there. They are the true masters of all and own everything and everyone is media, energy and politics.
You can lough as much as you want,but why you blame them,your Elite let's them in,did they asked you about it,was it a referendum, don't take it on them,it's your Elite considering you as useless class,and try to substitute you with them,but they want you to hate them,and fight them,and you'll do what your Elite tell you to do,because they playing you both.
She smugly sits there and pathetically tries to insult Douglass Murray by saying "it's always hilarious to see Douglass Murray," yeah right, I bet you wouldn't dare take him on to his face though.
Yeah, I heard that and noticed that no one flinched. Literally saying people should be killed or forcibly removed from a land is perfectly fine, but don't say nuthin that hurts my feelings...
@@dtz1000because the English don't need to debate anything. They have free speech the only linkts being put on it are by the government fro pressure of the immigrants. The irony is outstanding
I live in Denmark and I too experience how foreigners, typically people from middle eastern countries (muslims), talk about not having free speech in the western world, despite actually being allowed to express their opinions freely. Im not sure if it is because they dont fully understand the concept of free speech, but they seem to confuse 'being allowed to say something' with 'other people agreeing with what you say'.
That's the technique employed by Muslims to shut you down. They do it everywhere including in India where there is all free speech, but none in the neighbouring Muslim countries
I tried to watch this but after a short while it sounded like an endless word salad that I'd eaten dozens of times before. No engineers. No plumbers. No electricians. Draftsmen No plasterers or bricklayers. Just the usual self absorbed erratic infantile grownups complaining about the status quo. Mr. Kisin is the only person in the studio talking in a comprehensible manner. I'm a logistics engineer and I had the idle thought during one diatribe that none of their resumes would get past the mail room shredder.
There is a psychology of shame and anger among them for their fathers' failure to build a society even approaching the Western world. Everything these Muslim immigrants own and use, from laptop computers and cell phones to medicine, is imported from the West. Nothing has come out of their homelands other than natural resources. There is resentment in their psychological makeup, a condition of poor self-esteem masked in the air of arrogance and superiority.
I don't think talking about people trying to turn men into women, etc. is anything but a discussion about perversion. I know what cause this in children. It's abuse. And that abuse is very common in the US and it is totally covered up.
Becouse West done it to them for centuries that why their in your Country,don't ignore history of your Emp,even when you grant them freedom, you Government put Puppets in power,that rob them blind,now your Government do it to you,by bring them to your Country,to put them against you,fight you plebs,but you got one common enemy,Nobility and Deep State,even if they go home,you never going to live better,becouse you are useless class to Elite.
The point is, the west has created an ILLUSION of free speech when it’s really not free speech. Give me one good reason why Scotland, France and Germany banned the British doctor who went to Gaza And treated patients from giving a lecture.
@@TheChance1991 It's a black and white contradiction. "I'm saying what I want at this very moment, but when I say what I want I'm always shut down." Can't have it both ways. Is he speaking, or is he being silenced?
He did a great job. But when she said you only have free speech in America if you agree with them, Konstaintin said he’d seen protesters shouting “from the river to the sea “ I felt like screaming “They’re burning the American FLAG and shouting “Death to America”!!! And they have the freedom to do that. That’s a far cry from the example he gave. I wish he would’ve said that with his full chest.
Excellent video Jake on your part. You expertly measured the content of the providers with your take. Your arguments are well reasoned and provide opinions with a modesty to allow others. I believe you will be knocking on the door of 1Mill subs before years end.
I love the way they blame slavery on the west and never talk about Muslim slavery of the Blacks they call Abeds, and women as sex slaves. Also Israel is a pluralistic state and actually works most of the time. Always the Islamic people make excuses for their own actions. There is no Genocide in Gaza, total lies.
He cannot say whatever he wants in Qatar. He cant say anything bad against the King or Allah without being imprisoned or worse. He is straight up lying. You CANNOT criticize the king or Islam in the Middle East. (Ive lived in Dubai and Riyadh for almost 3 years now).
Qatar and free speech: "The authorities continued to curtail the rights to freedom of expression and peaceful assembly, including by arbitrarily detaining individuals for exercising their human rights. In 2023, activists received reliable reports confirming that in mid-2022 the Criminal Court of Appeal in the capital, Doha upheld the convictions against brothers Hazza and Rashed al-Marri, both of them lawyers, for offences that included contesting laws ratified by the emir, “threatening” the emir on social media, compromising the independence of the state, organizing unauthorized public meetings, and “violating” social values online. They had been sentenced to life imprisonment. The charges related to speeches they made or poetry published online critical of the country’s electoral law that discriminates against members of al-Marri tribe. Two activists imprisoned for online posts were released after serving their sentences. One of them, Abdullah al-Mohannadi, was released in August after completing an eight-month sentence imposed for posts and activism relating to the National Campaign for Travel-Banned Citizens. However, he remained subject to a travel ban." Amnesty International
Qatar and 'Free Speech' said no one ever, except in forums like this in Bradford. You never see these words in the same sentence outside of forums like this one.
It's interesting that those talking about slavery want to close free speech concerning it when confronted with actual facts, including their own 'ethnic minority' trading in slaves for millennia before the Europeans, and it was the British Empire who indeed ended it after stopping it themselves. These are inarguable facts. Then the Yank says that wasn't the question and bangs on about Trump.
Look at all these ppl from all over the place enjoying all the goodies in the west while proclaiming how bad it is at the same time... go home if it that bad
Ppl definitely enjoy the freedoms of Western countries, and in particular those freedoms in America. I think what they were saying regarding speech is, "Yes, we enjoy freedom of speech, but we want everyone to speak as we speak and just agree to agree with us." They don't like the fact that their speech is challenged. The UK has gone off the rails. You can not voice anything that doesn't align with the left. If things don't change in the US, we will follow suit. There's already some cities (not sure of whole states) that have made it a crime to "misgender" someone! Some states will TAKE your child if you don't affirm their gender or provide them with "gender affirming care." Thankfully, we have strong laws and the Supreme Court!!
All of these nationalities sitting, speaking and living in the UK and complaining about the UK not being free. There is no greater irony.
And the UK isn't even the greatest aly of free speech.
Man the uk fucked up and we're following your lead. Mass migration and closing down our speech little by little. Only difference between the US and the UK is.. we still got our guns.
@@chrisblackasr7095 Not anymore. But until 6 weeks ago it was still better than any of their homelands.
@andyquelch5754 the UK has been jailing (going after) people for their speech for years. What about Tommy Robinson?
@@chrisblackasr7095 Yes I know. But it's still better than most of their homelands. As I already said. I'm not defending our current policies.🙄
They invited Konstantin to try & break him. He is the sole focus of this whole panel. And he knew it. And he persevered.
The focus on him might have been how Jake cut it up though.
He trashed them singlehandedly.
The calibre of the opposition wasn't too great, though.
@@jacobcohen9205 He didn't trash them he is just amplifying western propaganda. He is a perfect example for western narcissism without any moral compass. I mean when the arab guy mentions the banning of unpleasant opinions in France and Germany Kisin just replies with "countries have the right to ban enemy propaganda".. He calls a legitimate narrative about the ongoing genocide in Gaza "enemy propaganda".. This tells a lot about him.
@@1Mutton1@1Mutton1 The full show is on another youTube channel, bud.
@@eimsbush05, your post tells a lot about you, too, amigo.
It's not good.
Shalom.
As soon as islamic slavery is mentioned the moderator closes the conversation down - oh, the irony!
Exactly… everyone wants to focus slavery on the British..yet ignores the lengths we went to to end it… and that’s excluding the 30 million slaves that are still around today..
How dare you treat "others" as equals to us whites?
That's what the white progressive thought process can be honed down to in my opinion. If whites can be confronted, why no one else?
no no no you mustn't open Pandora's box........truth and facts
Exactly. The left and these student SJW would have you believe that Slavery is just a British thing, or racism can only be done by white people. Every other ethnic group are never racist. This is a component of the recent riots in the UK and the accusation of two tier policing. That regular white people were out protesting (not far right as they were portrayed), for multiple reasons. One being that certain ethnic groups are racist towards white people in the UK verbally, or just by their actions. But nothing is done about it. The police don't act (unless it's the other way around). It's not even talked about that white people can be the victims of racism. That was another reason for those riots.
Slavery is still practiced by Muslims in Africa.
People in the UK are being locked up for criticising Islam.
In their own country. The reverse is tolerated however.
Absolutely untrue
@miraladak2314 it's happening
@@JadeDoesLondon please give examples
@@miraladak2314 Have you not been following the british protests, lol.
Somehow we have allowed people who have no standards, to set the standards for the rest of us.
Serious Point
It’s because west got fat and lazy. Everyone wanted to enjoy their freedom but didn’t want to do the work.
For real!
And the mentally ill and the drug addicted 😢 time to turn things around, this lousy experiment isn’t working
diversity is not our strength.
Bradford in the UK is full of Pakistani people and other muslim "Majorities". Konstantin did very well and illustrated his points with clarity, whereby the panel members were left with delivering very weak arguments, clearly demonstrating their bigotry and ignorance.
But he ignores the genocide in Gaza and I'm not even allowed to say why on RUclips.
@@dtz1000 There is no genocide going on, proven by the fact a muslim hostage was saved by the Israelis out the hands of Hamas as well.
@@peterevans3310 So all the reports of women and children being bombed by Israel didn't happen then?
@@peterevans3310there is a genocide. The Israeli monsters in government say it everyday! If there is no genocide in Gaza then there is no holocaust of Jews. How does that feel?
The Arab guy is moaning about 'free speech' in a country where he can openly criticise anybody and anything. When challenged, he says,'Let's not divert', lol.
Give me fooking strength.
He really said there is more free speech in Qatar. Yeah as long as you praise your religion and your country. I seriously dislike intellectually dishonest people.
@@DoesThisWork888yeah, he meant that HIS opinion is fine.
@@natalievu4399 Yea he had the audacity to criticize the Western freedom of speech while claiming Quatar has better freedom of speech when equating his ability to talk freely their dominant narrative with general freedom of speech...what an intellectually dishonest, lazy and silly perspective...
The UK doesn't have free speech
... " Allah take the wheeeeeeel "
These people cannot stand to hear the truth about slavery. They have to cry and scream and interrupt him because it seems to cause them pain to listen to someone speak the truth. Crazy
None of them are going to want to talk about Arab involvement in slavery. Especially enslaving Africans. They were brutal.
They want to put down the British because they are ignorant and resentful. Don't know how lucky they are!
their dislike for the west consumes them
They do not want to admit that they are privileged and comfortable, They prefer to be victims and garner sympathy from the ignorant.
What truth? Thats a flat out lie that Britain just had a change of heart and ended slavery.
I applaud Konstantin's ability to withhold laughter and resist the urge to simply leave while surrounded by so much ignorance and stupidity.
You assume they are actually ignorant. I say they fain ignorance for a purpose.
The best thing about being factually correct is that you can always win a debate
@@GoA7250aka Taqqiya
@@Kunfucious577 sadly, being right doesn't matter in front of an angry mob with pitchforks, or banshees that won't stop screeching for 2 seconds so you can make a point. a lot of people now think screaming and talking constantly is a debate tactic rather than just total chaos.
Constantine the J3w's ancestors were killed by western values 6 millions of them. He defending the same western values 😅😅😅 it's call beat them so much you take the manhood out of them 😅😅😅
A bunch of “educated” young people exercising their freedom of speech while crying about their lack of free speech is rich…
No free speech on RUclips though. I'm not allowed to say where Kisin originates from and neither does this channel say it even though it explains why he ignores the genocide in Gaza.
@@dtz1000
You have more free speech than I do here on YT, because I’ve been in their “naughty list” for years, so I most certainly can’t write those last three words in your comment.
I was born in Northern Sudan, I don’t lose sleep over any conflict or wars going on there. I accepted long ago that my people are not concerned with making developments to the country, the culture of war is what they love.
Unfortunately for us, many of your kinfolk we generously welcomed still brought that mentality to our homes. It would be better if people with your mindset weren't strip mined from your homelands. How will they ever improve if we take their most entrepreneurial minds?
Very interesting point
Do you mean the so called 'leaders' of N Sudan. In my limited experience the Sudanese people are some of the best I've met.
Interesting.
That’s quite a lazy analysis of what going on in Sudan
“Ethnic minorities are not being heard”…while he’s holding a microphone, on a stage, on camera.
It’s called Irony.
I'm a debate in a majority white Christian country in our University. So many absolute clowns these days who seem to believe their propaganda over their own eyes.
Brave of Konstantin to go into Bradfordistan
Did he really just take on this whole panel? What a G
The woman who derides Douglas Murray would be destroyed by him in any argument.
Apparently she just rudely laughs when she cannot find words
@@shobhasingh4014 Sounds like Kamala.
would love to see that, she clearly hates him, as people do when someone speaks an unfiltered truth
@@shobhasingh4014 nervous laughter
She is Fatima Bhutto part of the Sindhi aristocratic clan.
I went to dinner with a friend. He believed that Trump should be imprisioned in Guantanamo. I asked him what about Biden when he threatened to withhold financial aid (1 Billion) if the prosecutor who was going after his son was not fired. He replied, I've never heard that.
Lie. Trump threatened to withhold aid unless they gave him dirt on biden
did he just say that the ethnic minority voice isnt being heard?? Ethnic minority voice is the ONLY voice being allowed in the UK
Agreed. It’s woke idiots bowing down to the minorities and putting their feelings above the good of our nations as a whole that has led to town halls like this, men being allowed to compete in sports against women, a mass psychosis transgender epidemic and not being able to point out facts and blatant reality without being labeled one or multiple “isms”.
Yes. This is called taking advantage of weaknesss. In a very short period of time, Europe will by very little force and there is nothing you’ll be able to do about it. It’s all because they didn’t want to offend anyone.
Absolutely same pouting in the USA. Slave Cos players
Same over-represention of minorities happening in the United States as well right now.
Yess as an educator all we have is posters and celebrates minorities and LBGT blah blah but no white men
Always struck me when poeple come to the west and then complain about everything about the west instead of being grateful of the opportunity. Take Canada, after ww2 they've welcomed a lot of people from europe (portugese, italian, irishman, and many eastern european countries) and today it's mostly from middle eastern and african countries. The europeans that came here we're grateful and really embraced to country , the people and the culture. They started buisness and got involved in their community. Immigrants come here today with a feeling that they deserved everything and that the whole western civilisation has abide to their way of life, the problem is it should be the other way around.
I totally agree. My grandfather came to Wales from Italy after WW2. During the war he fought in the Italian resistance movement against the Nazis and Fascists. One of his jobs was smuggling wounded RAF airman that had been shot down, over the mountains into Switzerland. After the war he was granted British citizenship because of the role that he played. He came to this country and worked hard and did well for himself. He was proud to be Italian but he was forever grateful to the UK because he appreciated the opportunities this country gave him and he integrated within his local community. He believed that you should never get anything unless you earned it. It's a pity a lot of immigrants coming here today don't seem to think this way. My grandfather would hate what this country has become.
That's because multiculturalism is a lie, and because some cultures are incompatible with others.
We need to recognise that and refuse entry of incompatible cultures without apology. Period.
Absolutely! The amount of complaining you see from new immigrants really shows they aren't grateful for anything, least of which the new western country they moved to. If they hate the western world so much, then move back. Stop whining and expecting people to bow to you and your beliefs.
Ya but today Canada is dictatorship, also you discriminate evrybody and the present immigration laws are very different than that past you talk about !
You still didn't get it,you become a useless class to your Elite,they substituting you with them,listen to World Economic Forum sometimes, they engineers of social programs for World Elite,you useless to requirements.
Holy cow I thought they were in an Arab country! Wtf is happening to the west?
Europe is filled with a bunch of weak tea drinking men in glad they’re getting replaced
spot the white man!
@@mayogalWaldo? Waldo is that you?
Bradford is a Arab country 😅
Importing too many Arabs and other foreigners while ignoring their own self interests for diversity and tolerance. Look at what tolerance has done to the U.K. It has ruined it! Sadly by the time the leaders realize what’s happening it’ll be too late. The shortsightedness and arrogance of the people in charge is beyond comprehension. They really think they’ll be allowed to remain in power, they’re too stupid to understand that they’ll be the first ones taken out once the foreign culture becomes dominant over the native population which is happening right now at a record pace. Cheering on their own demise like a bunch of buffoons. You can’t make this 💩up
Funny how they always want to change the "direction" or "focus" when someone with common sense is making common sense points.
Then STOP COMING HERE!
I wrote something similar right out the box.
HYPOCRITES
👍👍👍👍👍🇦🇺
Then stop colonizing and making wars in their countries
@Trigger-Nomics What's "y'all" ?.
@Trigger-Nomicsfree speech allows people to come to a country and then whinge about it.
However, it would be best for wveryone if you are going to do this, please just don't come.
Konstantin you are my hero. You’re intelligent, articulated and quite brave ! You speak for a lot of people who are too afraid to say how they are feeling! Keep up the good work young man .
God lord the amount of historical and present day ignorance is astounding.
26:09 was hilarious - dude thought it would fix everything by just having the media companies declare their biases. 🙄 Sure, let’s not make any laws that they aren’t allowed to publish known lies or propaganda, right? Here in the USA, our Supreme Court ruled that they are allowed to do that crap, and that obviously needs to be dealt with.
Hahahah and at 34:50 LMFAO this guy thinks we developed cars and the internet because of wars! Internet was made for our American government first, yes, but its use was for a multitude of things. The development of cars had nothing to do with wars whatsoever. What are these people smoking?!
Slavery slavery slavery, so sick of hearing about that, and why are they laughing, we did end it, at great cost.
Colonizers, colonizers, colonizers their goal is not to build up the west
The laughs really showed how ignorant and childish this audience is. I swear its rare to talk to a functioning adult these days in general. Lots of overgrown propagandized children. Very few genuinely knowledgeable people.
Losers complaining about losing!! Bottom line!!
It's funny that he feels this way yet hates the USSR. Wasn't that just Russia winning? Sounds like he is ok to whine when he finds something he doesn't like.
Yet for some reason he hates 🇷🇺 for destroying 🇺🇦. He hates immigrants successfully invading the west and "destroying" western civilization. Why are these ok to "whine" about?
@Trigger-NomicsPrecisely. Kisin spreads a lot of good ideas, but here he comes across as a hypocrite and a bully.
Yep, they don't want western people to be proud of themselves. Because then we can disregard their nonsense. They can't even accept this.
I do not want Islamic colonialism or imperialism.
I love that he told the losers to stop the complaining. Finally someone just tell them the harsh truth.
Corrupted by oil money
I thought this was in the middle east but no, it's my home, England....
Same thing😔😔😔
Its the slow conquering of Europe. Illegal immigrants are being funneled in and given money and hotels and having TONS of children. Meanwhile old fashioned English families are having 1, maybe 2 children and we really expect England to be English in 50 years? Something similar although not quite to the same degree is happening in America too.
You got deracinated. 1694 Bank of england. See Ramsays Book, the Nameless War.
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@Trigger-Nomicsbecause your culture sucks
“Colonialism is losers complaining about losing” FINALLY! Someone said this!
But what about the morals behind it. Is there any morals behind colonialism other than greed. Subjugating others(losers as you refer to them) by any means possible which include but not limited to grape for the purpose of exploiting their resources.
I always argue that colonization were successful because the Colonizers have a special taste for blood. It doesn't affect that conscience like it did others.
Most nation that were colonized have culture or religion that make them treat outsiders with respect and this was exploited by the colonizers.
So yes, colonization needs to be extensively discuss among people you refer to losers so that their generations can watch out and history is not lost.
But that's the thing the people who are colonized would have just as quickly colonized everybody else if they could have...@@adefilaomotayo2300
@@adefilaomotayo2300yes. They are losers. Don’t get pissy ab it. One question though: why are Arabs complaining ab colonization? That’s the definition of hypocrisy.
The Muslim Ottoman empire lasted longer than the British Empire.
@@adefilaomotayo2300 You forget that all cities are colonial.
Konstantin was listening to the questions, he picked up on the crux of the programming subversively being elevated, particularly with the context of slavery. He is very clever at picking up on the underlying point.
The main difference is that Konstantin considered their perspectives and understood their arguments - even if he chose to ignore certain aspects. The others, for the most part, could not see beyond their own concerns and hadn't even attempted to consider opposing perspectives.
Imagine Democrats in the US have ran the country the last 12/16 years and blames the problems on Trump 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 that’s the problem
I don't think you're being completely objective. Both Parties have destroyed this Country to only blame the other about EVERYTHING. With that said, the Left has done far more damage than the Right especially from 2012 on. This is coming from someone who doesn't like either Party. Cheers
You are correct. The problem in America is democrats.
this guy is the goat and especially standing up to the mass.. of people who really don't care about free speech when they shouted him down.
What does Donald Trump have to do with it?
When they need a scapegoat or just an excuse to confirm their feelings (he even used the word "emotionally"), it seems the TDS sets in, even if the discourse isn't in the US...lol
By going against the globalist agenda, he endangers Arab culture by possibly devaluing oil in the near future. That’s a direct and tangible threat to Islam, especially considering this entire political climate is a ploy to protect globalist assets.
I thought the same thing. It's just a way to deflect and create an emotional reaction to distract
exactly he didn't start any wars like bush and tb
Freedom of speech has nothing to do with having your voice heard. It is the right to be heard. Very different point.
Thank you. You don’t have a right to make people listen to you. That doesn’t exist.
We are trying to keep Christendom but most haven’t recognised that fact yet.
We also have a Church of England which is truly lost its way
Re: CoE… no kidding
By corrupt oil koney
A Muslim lady is moderating this debate. Could she do that in Afghanistan?
she wouldnt be able to attend school after 12 years of age...
I'm sure she could do it in Dubai.
If her uncle/ husband let her attend, that would be a progressive in their society
why do people think this is an argument? she could probably do it in the majority on muslim country in the world, probably all except for a few of which was bombed to hell by invading forces .
@@JamesBondi7 those usually being other Muslim invading forces (yes I'm looking at you Saudi Arabia)
Lots of completely unhinged people on that stage
Absolutely 💯
And one smart alpha male who’s done his fn homework
These people who keep complaining about Western based countries can NEVER name a better place.
They shouldn't come to these countries.
The young man who said he has free speech in Quarter.
Yes bc he doesn't criticize the gov.
But in the following countries UK, US, CN, AU, Ireland
He can criticize our governments and his government.
🤷
@@nonyab3843 Interesting! And yet censorship is rife! Free? People being arrested for protesting against mass immigration pushed by the Western politicians who have promised they would control it, but never do! Democratic? A system of supposed democracy where first past the post allows a minority unrepresentative group to control everything whilst being owned by corporations.
I agree with you that this used to be what you think it is, but unaccountable politicians are destroying what it has been and should be. Central banks are the owners of all , I suggest you start there. They are the true masters of all and own everything and everyone is media, energy and politics.
Yup. Who chooses them ?
Britons are now serving hard time in Britain for criticizing Islam online.
minority voices are the only voices heard in the west😂😂😂😂😂😂
You can lough as much as you want,but why you blame them,your Elite let's them in,did they asked you about it,was it a referendum, don't take it on them,it's your Elite considering you as useless class,and try to substitute you with them,but they want you to hate them,and fight them,and you'll do what your Elite tell you to do,because they playing you both.
She smugly sits there and pathetically tries to insult Douglass Murray by saying "it's always hilarious to see Douglass Murray," yeah right, I bet you wouldn't dare take him on to his face though.
a catty inappropriate remark but she knew where she was
If you shout or say, "From the river to the sea.....blah. blah, blah", nothing is going to happen to you, if you say that in the west.
Yeah, I heard that and noticed that no one flinched. Literally saying people should be killed or forcibly removed from a land is perfectly fine, but don't say nuthin that hurts my feelings...
Yes, you will get fined or imprisonment for anti semitism...
Kisin missed a chance to asked “did they fined you or locked you up after you shouted it out in the middle of the city here in the UK?”
Sooo it’s a ‘debate’ put on by a middle eastern country … but it has to take place in ENGLAND. Let that sink in…
Why is it a middle eastern country that is putting it on and not the English themselves?
@@dtz1000 they do plenty already.
@@dtz1000because the English don't need to debate anything. They have free speech the only linkts being put on it are by the government fro pressure of the immigrants. The irony is outstanding
I noticed when Konstantinos spoke they kept trying to g to stop him finishing, not like the other speakers who were allowed to finish there point.
I live in Denmark and I too experience how foreigners, typically people from middle eastern countries (muslims), talk about not having free speech in the western world, despite actually being allowed to express their opinions freely.
Im not sure if it is because they dont fully understand the concept of free speech, but they seem to confuse 'being allowed to say something' with 'other people agreeing with what you say'.
They just want what they are saying or their sadistic ideas to be at the forefront. Like marrying underage children. Something they excel at.
That's the technique employed by Muslims to shut you down. They do it everywhere including in India where there is all free speech, but none in the neighbouring Muslim countries
I tried to watch this but after a short while it sounded like an endless word salad that I'd eaten dozens of times before.
No engineers. No plumbers. No electricians. Draftsmen No plasterers or bricklayers. Just the usual self absorbed erratic infantile grownups complaining about the status quo. Mr. Kisin is the only person in the studio talking in a comprehensible manner. I'm a logistics engineer and I had the idle thought during one diatribe that none of their resumes would get past the mail room shredder.
Kisin did make only wrong statements.
@@ПръчкоПръчлевno he didn't.. He was completely correct in this debate actually
@@knightheaven8992 Yes he is wrong also prejudiced, biased and dependent.
Douglas Murray would run circles around “people for university Palestinian” lady speaker.
yes he was sorely missed
Konstantin is the man!
Love Konstantin. He is vey eloquent and great orator.
I love Konstantin's colonialism take, it was the beginning of civilization expansion there was no rules on claiming land.
A bunch of people are upset their home sucks so the leave to make someone else home suck.
There is a psychology of shame and anger among them for their fathers' failure to build a society even approaching the Western world. Everything these Muslim immigrants own and use, from laptop computers and cell phones to medicine, is imported from the West. Nothing has come out of their homelands other than natural resources. There is resentment in their psychological makeup, a condition of poor self-esteem masked in the air of arrogance and superiority.
Every country, society, religion, etc., prioritises its own best interests over others.
So do families.
The American and UK governments don’t, they care more about foreigners than their own citizens. Both countries are run by traitors!
Not Canada
@@Only.a.Vagabond
Ok, then, not Turdeau's Canada.
I love how she thinks it's okay to say " from the river to the sea"....smh... Promoting genocide..wtf
Kisin is phenomenal.
That panel despises facts
It's promoted by an islamist country
As an American I'm embarrassed about the American guy.
I absolutely agree. He is a complete putz.
He carefully chose the middle ground
I don't think talking about people trying to turn men into women, etc. is anything but a discussion about perversion. I know what cause this in children. It's abuse. And that abuse is very common in the US and it is totally covered up.
When you let 5 in they have to assimilate with you. When you let thousands in then you have to assimilate with them.
If you don't like the West, why you come crying to us and want Human Rights?
Becouse West done it to them for centuries that why their in your Country,don't ignore history of your Emp,even when you grant them freedom, you Government put Puppets in power,that rob them blind,now your Government do it to you,by bring them to your Country,to put them against you,fight you plebs,but you got one common enemy,Nobility and Deep State,even if they go home,you never going to live better,becouse you are useless class to Elite.
The point is, the west has created an ILLUSION of free speech when it’s really not free speech. Give me one good reason why Scotland, France and Germany banned the British doctor who went to Gaza And treated patients from giving a lecture.
Konstantin take on all of them alone, good job
Defending his people in Israel.
"I'm sitting here saying what I want to but I'm always shut down when I want to talk..."
The ignorant victim mentality is already insufferable...
Care to elaborate?
That comment made me laugh out loud
@@TheChance1991 It's a black and white contradiction.
"I'm saying what I want at this very moment, but when I say what I want I'm always shut down."
Can't have it both ways. Is he speaking, or is he being silenced?
@@franzosisch5965 - If you are TRYING to say what you want but get shut down in the process, you didn’t actually say what you want.
@@TheChance1991 Ok? Doesn't pertain to what's being said or what happened.
Konstantine is the smartest person in the room. 35 vs 1 it’s almost fair
Saudi Facebook in 2012 a slave was advertised for sale.
Protect the western world 🙏
He did a great job. But when she said you only have free speech in America if you agree with them, Konstaintin said he’d seen protesters shouting “from the river to the sea “
I felt like screaming “They’re burning the American FLAG and shouting “Death to America”!!! And they have the freedom to do that. That’s a far cry from the example he gave. I wish he would’ve said that with his full chest.
That's because he mostly cares about his country and it's not the UK.
Both. The Palestinian slogan is aligned with their genocidal ideology. And it includes the US as well.
Doha debates... I see... In Bradford. Religious and cultural imperialism. Qatar would never allow a debate in Doha with a pro western value baise.
it was cheeky for them to hold a second debate under the same frame work in England
Agree
The phrase "from the river to the sea" means genocide. Doesn't it?
Excellent video Jake on your part. You expertly measured the content of the providers with your take. Your arguments are well reasoned and provide opinions with a modesty to allow others. I believe you will be knocking on the door of 1Mill subs before years end.
I love the way they blame slavery on the west and never talk about Muslim slavery of the Blacks they call Abeds, and women as sex slaves. Also Israel is a pluralistic state and actually works most of the time. Always the Islamic people make excuses for their own actions. There is no Genocide in Gaza, total lies.
CLARION CALL: TOO MANY ARABS IN THE UK, SAVE YOURSELVES BEFORE ITS TOO LATE!
it is too late
I think they mostly overseas Arab students.
Stand your ground and retake what is lost.
@@mayenaDo you really think they will ever leave 😆😆😆
"Losers complaining about losing." Best quote to any liberal who wants to whine about colonialism.
It’s amazing that they see death in certain countries as a call to violence while ignoring the casualties in the other parts of the world.
"From the river to the sea," is a call for genocide.
They should just leave before Muslims unleash the big one on them. It's obvious that's where we're heading.
These 'students' seem to be incapable of framing a coherent question!
'University' of Bradford, what do you expect
Palestine, Palestine, Palestine it's the only word that they have on their lips.
Cheap Russian created propaganda. They created that “people” in the ‘60 to fight the west.
Konstantine kills it again.
Also, child abuse is a thing in the Middle East too. The dancing boys of Afghanistan is an easy example off the top of my head.
And we're not allowed to give more examples here because we are censored in the west. Sad.
@@dtz1000 100%
Nice one Jake! Terrible moderator but Konstantin slayed, as always
He cannot say whatever he wants in Qatar. He cant say anything bad against the King or Allah without being imprisoned or worse. He is straight up lying. You CANNOT criticize the king or Islam in the Middle East. (Ive lived in Dubai and Riyadh for almost 3 years now).
I like this you've got self-righteous liberals.Debating self righteous Liberals, 😊 It's a contest of who's more pretentious.
Qatar is great for free speech if you're an Arab Muslim expressing Arab Muslim views. Not so great if you criticise the regime or their religion.
Qatar and free speech: "The authorities continued to curtail the rights to freedom of expression and peaceful assembly, including by arbitrarily detaining individuals for exercising their human rights.
In 2023, activists received reliable reports confirming that in mid-2022 the Criminal Court of Appeal in the capital, Doha upheld the convictions against brothers Hazza and Rashed al-Marri, both of them lawyers, for offences that included contesting laws ratified by the emir, “threatening” the emir on social media, compromising the independence of the state, organizing unauthorized public meetings, and “violating” social values online. They had been sentenced to life imprisonment. The charges related to speeches they made or poetry published online critical of the country’s electoral law that discriminates against members of al-Marri tribe.
Two activists imprisoned for online posts were released after serving their sentences. One of them, Abdullah al-Mohannadi, was released in August after completing an eight-month sentence imposed for posts and activism relating to the National Campaign for Travel-Banned Citizens. However, he remained subject to a travel ban." Amnesty International
Qatar and 'Free Speech' said no one ever, except in forums like this in Bradford. You never see these words in the same sentence outside of forums like this one.
The Arab/Islamists are incapable of being honest about their own countries and culture. They just can’t do it
If the West isn't the best culture then why don't the people who prefer other cultures, move there!? 🤷🏼♂️
UK looks more like Arabic country now...
Kissin is a legend! Even all against him, he outclasses them. Way smarter way more eloquent than them all added together
It's interesting that those talking about slavery want to close free speech concerning it when confronted with actual facts, including their own 'ethnic minority' trading in slaves for millennia before the Europeans, and it was the British Empire who indeed ended it after stopping it themselves. These are inarguable facts.
Then the Yank says that wasn't the question and bangs on about Trump.
Free speech should not give people the rights to destroy their own societies, families, communities, and themselves.
Honestly, thanks for dissecting this.
I tried to watch the original.
It made me sick to listen to.
So thanks for giving me the highlights
Look at all these ppl from all over the place enjoying all the goodies in the west while proclaiming how bad it is at the same time... go home if it that bad
A free market is never wrong, and it's pretty obvious the market has chosen the west. That makes it #1 in book
Konstantin Kisin, Douglas Murray....you can not beat them in argumentation👌
😂😂😂 yes your right about that gentleman’s fist language not being English…. He is from Leeds in Yorkshire.
Is that 23 v 1 on that stage?
A lot of Dunning Kruger going on...
I like Konstantin more and more.
So much ignorance...😮
So happy to live in the Uk, where most people don’t think
Like people supporting this Channel
Luckily Haters and Dividers are
the real minorities here
You cannot have a proper conversation if you don’t have both sides present. 😢
I wanted to hit the like button more than once. Great points covered.
Ppl definitely enjoy the freedoms of Western countries, and in particular those freedoms in America. I think what they were saying regarding speech is, "Yes, we enjoy freedom of speech, but we want everyone to speak as we speak and just agree to agree with us." They don't like the fact that their speech is challenged. The UK has gone off the rails. You can not voice anything that doesn't align with the left. If things don't change in the US, we will follow suit. There's already some cities (not sure of whole states) that have made it a crime to "misgender" someone! Some states will TAKE your child if you don't affirm their gender or provide them with "gender affirming care." Thankfully, we have strong laws and the Supreme Court!!
The balls of these people. To complain about not having the freedom to express ideology that at its very core is the antithesis of freedom.