Is This Gibson's Biggest Secret? ..We Really Shouldn't Talk About It.
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The secret is OUT!
6:30... LP pickguard OFF 👍
They say a broken/fixed headstock makes LP's sound better. Or does it?
@@nacuda9Mine does mate!!
@@nacuda9 I have heard it makes it stronger.
#teampickguard
And just like that, '91 Les Pauls went up in price on Reverb.
Like the spate of videos on Peavey Classic 50 and 30 amps...
Prices have gone stupid as a result!!
Creating the modern 59 bursts!?!
Bro I was literally thinking the same thing just now lmao
I don't care, that doesn't affect the price of the Harley Bentons in any way 😂
Thankfully I knew this a long time ago and already have 4 from that era! I just didnt go blabbin off about it!
I honestly doubt this video had any effect whatsoever on price.
Flame top- NO Pick guard
Solid finish- Pick guard
Pretty accurate. I also feel that way with plain top bursts, they need the pick guard
Yet another industry folklore story to go along with the rest. You either dig your guitar or not.
@@tabriel
It's really not. If you ever are fortunate enough to play a '62 Stratocaster then you will immediately understand that some years are just much better than others.
Most players that have experience with Les Pauls already knew this. The good wood era is considered from 1990 to 1996.
Some say it starts in the late 80s until around 2000 or so
I have a 93' studio and it's great, tried a 95' the same day I bought it and that one was meh, I think qc is a factor too
@@mohamedtlass3842 I have an '89 V that says you're on to something.
I agree with Derek. The first thing I did with both my Les Pauls, was remove the pick guard.
This is the way!
I much prefer it on. To each their own.
I thought it was just me about pick guard 😂
Pickguards belong on solid color LPs and some bursts. But mostly not on Translucent finshes.
@@evangelistbrianbaker Exactly!! Totally depends on the finish! : )
Your thumbnail are 90% click bait now. I don't really want to click just top see if I want to watch or am interested in the product, lesson, or whatever it maybe. Don't get me wrong I have liked your channel for many years, but I sometimes avoid your video just because of the click bait thumbnails in my sub feed. You all can all flame away if you want too, I just don't like it, that's all. :)
I've thought this same thing for awhile now about his thumbnails as well.
Dude has to make a living, you are watching free content and someone has to pay, the clickbait helps them keep the lights on. Y’all feel so entitled like you are paying a subscription or something like that
Same, don’t mind supporting if the video makes sense.
But you clicked anyway, didn't ya? So as far as he's concerned, mission accomplished, lol. Congratulations on becoming an integral part of fueling the very thing you claim to despise. 🤣🤣👍
Nah, you're actually right. Those clickbait titles are disappointing.
My $300 sterling stays in tune
So does my $190 Squier!
My friend has two dogs.
So does my gibson faded
So does my 73 Les Paul. Just set them up correctly
@@muffinman1978 So do I!
No pick guard on a les Paul!!! I agree with Derek. Something about a Les Paul, looks so much better without the pick guard.
That is an ongoing discussion.
I disagree. Liked the look when I was a kid but now I much prefer the guard on.
I think it depends on the finishes. Solid colors... I would prefer the pick guard. Natural or transparent finishes, I like the no pickguard look.
I absolutely despise pick guards. It makes no sense, why hide the wood. What’s the point of having one?
@@billyc6678 To stop your finish getting scratched up by your pick and fingers. Pretty obvious.
I like the pick guards on Les Pauls!
My 1st les paul was given to me...92 wine red/gold hardware studio. Ebony board..changed plastics to cream....absolute rock monster!!. I would never sell it since it means so much...great guitar
Good choice. In my opinion, cream pickguards are a great complement to several different finishes. However with a beautiful flame top, I may consider removing the pickguard.
No pick guard. I love the finish on the guitar.
Exactly
As a 92 LP standard owner I can second that. It's the only Les Paul that remains at home, and I have had a bunch of reissues. Eveyone that plays it sees there's someting special to it
Every Gibson stays in tune as much as any guitar with similar construction. Fix the binding at the nut or bridge and any tuning will take care of itself. BTW wood looks better than plastic any day, I have a box of pick guards off of all mine...just keep them in case someone cares when I sell the guitars.
Not true
@@yammak2004I’ve had a similar experience as him. Most every Gibson I’ve owned works fine with a properly slotted nut
@@AmiliaCaraMia with? You're a liar every Gibson I've owned even with a properly slotted nut goes out of tune because of slippage with the default tuner
Still have several Gibsons… with a good set up tuning is as good as with my US PRS’s…
So, what you're telling me is, Gibson can't fix the binding for me at the factory? Ooooooof.
Or here's an idea: Gibson can stop making shitty tuners!
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Derek is never to busy to reach back out, in all my dealings with him.
As always enjoying the channel,
Ruderik
From an aesthetic standpoint,..I like the look of a Les Paul, both with or without a pick guard.
For playing ? Personally, I absolutely need the pick guard. Otherwise, the relaxed fingers on my pick hand will travel a further distance to rest on the body of the guitar and inadvertently mute the high E or the B strings when it's a bad time for that.
@MBRMrblueroads Yes,.you are absolutely right.
Oddly, there are a lot of people who like the idea of that.
Musicians, particularly guitarists, are the only people I've seen that take this position.
Nobody ever said,.."I can hardly wait till my new car gets dents and dings in it, and the paint fades, cracks and gets a lot of scratches in it. Or perhaps pay extra for one that already is in this condition while the same model is offered in perfect condition.
Slash says 1987 is the best year. I’ve also heard the early 2000s are the “good wood” years for the Custom Shop. Some claim early 80s Les Pauls are the money. Basically, if someone likes their own guitar, they will claim magic pixie dust is sprinkled on guitars from that year. I wouldn’t put much stock in any of those opinions.
This. It’s all nonsense. Some guitars are better than others but it’s not decided by year of manufacture. Sometimes they’re just set up better. Sometimes they’re just played in and have the edges worn a bit. Sometimes it’s just personal preference.
This should be the pinned comment.
@JacobS-q7c I’m not describing wood at all. Murphy Lab guitars are just regular custom shop guitars with relicing.
No pick guard. Enjoy the beautiful wood grain, don’t hide it with a piece of plastic.
I'm 100% never pick guard. Pick guards are ugly on any and all guitars. I have no strats, only super strats with no guards.
Paul Stanley just mention this in his Gibson interview. All my Gibsons stay in tune cause im not a chode and can tune.
Paul has a tech going over them, besides that he switches guitars between almost every song during a show.
Both my Iceman’s stay in tune for more than one song out of the box, had a brand new 2016 LP Studio that didn’t, the auto tuning system on it had pretty bad tuners integrated, replacing them with standard Grovers did the trick, still annoying that Gibson doesn’t put more resources towards QC, there would be way less bad examples of new Gibsons ending up in YT videos if they did.
No for les paul pick guard. Mine came with one but there was no way I was about to drill holes in the beautiful finish as it looks awesome. By the way, it never goes out of tune, even with old strings! It's about 20-ish years old now.
I have a '90 Les Paul Custom Sunburst (all original) that never had a pick guard installed that I bought back in 2009. It is a joy to play and is one of the best sounding I've owned in nearly 60 years I've playing. Is that in the good wood range?
I think we can let that pass 😂
1990 is a good wood year , I have a Standard from that year that sounds incredible.
I think they are making some of their best Les Pauls right now.
I do agree that some of the new ones I have played feel great
I have a ‘22 Les Paul Classic and it’s been solid. Sounds great and no tuning issues whatsoever.
My ‘22 LP Classic has been solid. Sounds and plays great and no tuning issues at all.
I have a 2023 built Les Paul Modern with a AAA flame top in Seafoam Green. However I like a pickguard, especially on a Les Paul, because it gives me somewhere to rest my pinky while I'm playing, which, in turn, also gives me a reference point from which to be able to pluck whichever string I'm trying to hit with better precision. My solution was to buy a custom clear acrylic pickguard for my Les Paul. I think it looks great, it serves the purpose I want it for, and it doesn't cover up the beautiful top on my guitar! Oh, and with regards to your original point I agree I feel like my Les Paul modern is extremely well-built, it stays in tune, it sounds great and feels great to play. There are no QC issues that I've found. I currently own 5 guitars, 2 Gibsons, 2 PRS-es and an American Ultra Stratocaster. My LP is easily my #1. I also currently have a Novo Miris Custom build ordered. The Novo should be ready about January.
None of my Les Pauls have ever had the problem of not staying in tune. It’s all about how you setup your guitar. If you don’t know how, it won’t stay in tune and vice versa…
Same. I have a Gibson Les Paul, a Gibson SG and a Tokai LP and all stay in tune as well as my Strat and Tele.
None of my Les Pauls have tuning issues. They're set up correctly
Good wood era years keep shifting. Keep hearing 87-89, 90-01, and it goes on. Oh, and I’m becoming a pickguard off kinda guy.
Personally, I love the clickbait. It gets my attention, doesn’t cost me anything, and, if I’m not interested, I just F-off and move on with my day.
The good wood era lasted from 1990 until 2004 or so. Nothing about 91 that was particularly noteworthy.
Late 80s were good as well
I've heard something similar to this as well. How can the good wood era last for only 1 particular year? Doesn't make sense lol.
I have a 2000 LP Standard and a 2001 LP Standard and both sound very good. Both have a nice weight to them as well (10 pounds +).
Remove the pick guard! I will say it again remove the pick guard. If you didn't hear me remove the pick guard
What ? 😂
#teamnopickguard for the win
I have a '90 Explorer in cherry that always confounded me why it just had this extra bit of mojo. I bought it around 98/99, very reasonable at the time.
No wonder my ‘93 Les Paul is still top notch because of the good wood era. 👏👏👏
Les Paul and pick guard? If it’s a gold top or painted finish, yes to pick guard. If it’s a AA, AAA or AAAA flame or quilt w/transparent finish, NO pick guard. When they have a gorgeous grain, I would never cover it.
I will never ever put pick guard to my Les Paul, its a major sin.
Well, I can confuse things more, maybe. LOL I'm 72, and I've been at this guitar thing a long time, mid-late 60's. I've sat at a bar and listened to old timers talk about tri-5 guitars, 58, 59, 60 LPB's (I know one is 60, it's their story). They say all those guitars were made from 1 train car worth of 'mahogany and maple'. Also, that wood was 100+ years old when the LPB's were made! Gibson, in their infinite wisdom, just left the remainder of it at Kalamazoo when they moved. Said it was "too heavy" to move. Story goes it was auctioned off. Part of it was made into "kits", build your own 59. LOL. That's where the "Max" LPB came from. A luthier named "Max" built out some Kits. Today, Max Bursts bring a lot of $$$$!! There is still rumored to be some Kits, Max's, and some of the actual wood out there still! Keep your eyes, ears and wallets open!! Also a good resource would be member of the old guard Norm Harris, of NRG. He had most of the "old guard" in the store talking LPB's for a video not terribly long ago. Maybe go through his playlist's to find it?? I remember they talked about Max Bursts. I had a chance to buy one ~12 years ago, for $20k. I balked the chance. I've been kicking myself ever since!! I do have this special set of pups though 8) One more thing, I found some Tone-Pro like bridges at a store, they have Teflon-alloy saddles. Since I started using them all my Gibsons stay in tune much better! Making sure the nut is back_cut, and lubed (pencil/ graphite) etc, is very important also!! The only marking(s) on the bridge, are on the back, in small casting, I think it says "GT-0186" on 1 bar, and "Pat Pend" on another. I paid $16 ea for the nickle ones and $20 each for the gold ones. I used them to make cigar box guitars before I knew how well they worked on guitars! LOL I bought 15 the first time, Ni and Au. I have more coming.. That's all I got today. Thanks, peace --gary
I've always been pro-pickguard, when it comes to Les Pauls. But I think that's just because my iconic image of a Les Paul is Jimmy Page's Number One. If I'd grown up idolizing Slash or someone else who usually plays ones without a pickguard, I'd probably prefer that look.
He also added that his 2006 V is possibly his best sounding guitar.
I bought a well loved 1991 sg standard in October. Was completely blown away by how well it stays in tune, sounds amazing. 1991 was definitely a good era for Gibson.
*shrug*
I have couple les Paul's and and all of them are all pretty awesome sounding and feel great. I have zero issues with tuning or anything like that. I have no reason to buy into this "good wood" nonsense.
I've played several norlin era gibsons that are allegedly trash and they sounded and played great. A great guitar is a great guitar.
No guard fan here. And, probably an even more controversial take, no poker chip fan here too.
Paul Stanley of KISS has been singing the praises of 1990’s Les Pauls
Team #nopickguard for me. I have a feeling everyone on Reverb with a '91 Standard listed is about to raise their prices...
The paul Stanley Gibson garage interview was all about his various 94 s as the magic year according to Paul and he has a couple as his main guitars
THE PICK GUARD ON A LES PAUL IS NOT NECESSARY BECAUSE IT IS AN ARCH TOP THAT SLOPES AWAY FROM THE STRINGS - AND - IT HIDES THE BEAUTIFUL FINISH UNDERNEATH
Pickguard off. I put the screws back in to prevent losing them.
Had a 95 Les Paul, but I don’t like the thinner necks. While it claimed to be 50’s rounded, they are not 50’s chunky.
no pickguard, gets in the way
While I get the concept of a “good wood” era of guitar fabrication, the fact a guitar “stays in tune” should be a given, provided it has decent tuners, a properly cut nut and decent string wraps on the tuning pegs.
One would think the bare minimum is "stays in tune".
100% my 2006 les paul traditional does not stay in tune….
@@drock2313Have you made sure the nut and bridge saddles are well cut? And what guitar are you comparing it to? They’ll never match a Floyd Rose equipped guitar for stability but my Les Pauls and SG are not worse than my Strat and Tele.
@@drock2313 put new tuners on it. If your tuners are fine, fold over a piece of 500 grit wet-dry sand paper and lightly
polish the nut slots. Done.
@@bldallas I have changed the tuners, the bridge, and the nut. Have had a few
Techs/luthiers try. The biggest issue is the neck
I have a 91 SG and it sounds amazing! The neck is the slim taper. But my "Bonnie" is NOT for sale.
I have a 96 LP Studio and a 96 The Hawk, both have really nice dark and rich fretboards on them. But my favorites are still my 2020 Standard, my 2021 LP Raven, and my 2010 SG Classic. They're my go to's.
I’ve had a 91 studio, v, and junior. I can attest that the 95 lp standard I had was great. I still have a 93 les Paul special in tv yellow that is a lifer.
Just say no to plastic crap covering up the pretty Les Paul cap. Those flamey things cost a lot of money.
Hey Derek! Great to see you! I've owned three Revv amps. The latest is the D40! Digging the vintage tone with all the modern amenities. Just trying to save up enough to buy the matching cab. Feel like making a random RUclipsr a deal?!
Thank dude! Send me an email and we'll figure something out :)
Pickguard yes! Also, I have a 91 standard and it’s basically the workhorse of my rig…one thing they are is heavy as a cinder block but none the less amazing
No pick guard on Les Paul
I’ve come to hate the trope that Les pauls don’t stay in tune. I’ve had 6 and none of them have had tuning issues.
And why only the LP? Almost all Gibsons use the 3-a-side headstock, granted there's a bit more friction than a straight string pull design but a correctly cut nut helps, why isn't it "don't buy a Gibson, they never stay in tune"? Gibson wouldn't be some of the most expensive guitars on the planet, used or new, if they NEVER stayed in tune?! I for one have no issues with my Epiphone guitars staying in tune with "cheap" import tuners per factory spec 😅
If your Les Paul isn't staying in tune, you're either stringing it incorrectly, or have a crappy nut.
Its a thing for a reason... I own 3 and 2 of them always struggle. I do my own set ups and out of my whole guitar collection, the LP's have the worst tuning stability. I love them all but it's annoying. Not having SS frets on a high end guitar is also annoying.
@@bubkusjonesOr they sold them with an unstable autotuner system.
Had to replace it with Grovers on a 2016 Studio to make it stay in tune for more than one song.
Had to replace the titanium nut too, since it was slottet for light gauges, didn’t want to mess up that nut nor my tools.
Thing is, for it’s price, any brand new Gibson should at least stay in tune regardless of which year it was build, even if that comes down to external suppliers, there even came a photo from QC inspection with it, my wild guess is that management just doesn’t give QC enough time with each guitar.
Agreed! My Les Pauls hold tune well. Most times they just need a good set up I think.
Best Les Pauls I've ever played (and owned), '90 Custom, '89 Studio, '91 Custom.
No secret to me. I owned a bunch of Les Pauls, and the best one, easily is my 1994 centennial custom shop standard. 60s neck perfectly straight, easy to play, sounds great. I wish you hadn't made this video because I'm always on the lookout for mid-90s Les Pauls 😀
‘91 perhaps because Gibson was flush with cash and profitable, and that meant less cutting corners.
88 - 91 is when Gibson was enjoying high demand for the first time since the 70s. Joe Perry and Slash were all over MTV with Les Pauls and the glam metal scene with pointy guitars was cooling down.
Most Gibsons born the same year as me are awesome !
Nope. It’s because all of the good wood was in the one factory where all Gibson solid body guitars were made. They set up the Custom Shop shortly thereafter and all of the best wood went there.
I have a "team no pickguard since 1977" t-shirt. But really I'm on "team no les paul"
No pick guards.
I have a 91 SG.
Baddest guitar I've ever owned.
No, you can't have it.
It’s not a joke, early 90s Gibsons are actually awesome. I have two Les Paul studios in ebony and black with the ebony fretboard and they are actually awesome!
I do, admittedly, prefer NO pickguard...
But….the guitar is now 32-33 years old. Most wood has settled to its new, & last form, making it now stable as it is going to be. Any twisting or deformation would have surfaced by now. It’s just aged, which is good.🤘🏼
I've removed every pickguard on every LP! It covers up that beautiful finish. No pickguards on LPs!
#teamnopickguard for the win
I have a 93 standard i love it,Got it in 95 ,removed the pick guard and changed the tuners....Its still my main Guitar ,The neck is perfect
I've got a 91 black Gibson Les Paul Custom that i've owned since 91, and it's one of the best guitars i've ever played.
I'm jealous, I have an 1980 Custom, but I want to get a 91 Custom :)
I don't want pickguards on my Les Pauls, I find that they look way more rock without pickguards.
NO PICKGUARD!!! I take them off immediately upon purchase.
If your guitar won't stay in tune it's more likely than not an improperly cut nut or bad tuners.
BTW I noticed that Derek's L.P. has the fine tuning bridge (TP6?) which is one reason it stays in tune! I love my Agile faux paul w the TP6 fine tuners, it plays like a dream.
Welcome to the Team :) #teamnopickguard
1991 Gibson before this post: $3,500
1991 Gibson after this post: $13,500
Definitely pickguard ON. But just because I actually often need it to repose the ring finger on while playing.
Great opening jam! Thanks, too!
My comment,too!
No pickguards on LP's. I have two 1991 guitars, a Fender American Strat and a Jackson Dinky XL Professional. They're both great.
#teamnopickguard for the win
I never heard about the “good wood era”, but can definitely attest to how good my LP sounds/feels! I have a 91 Les Paul Standard that has some definite mojo. I bought it back in 1996 from a friend, sight unseen for $850 (he had 13 LP’s at the time, told him to pick one out to sell me). He loaded it with EMG’s, but within a month I put my SD JB in there and pulled out the neck pickup (no pick guard/one volume knob). Tons of shows and some refrets later it still rocks, and surprisingly stays in tune!!! Unfortunately the 91’s are now going to be up in price, but AWESOME video nonetheless🤣
Pickguard choice can also change with playing style. Sometimes I rest my pinky on it depending on what I'm playing.
I love how candid they are in this video. Thank you!
I have a 91 SG Special I bought brand new in 91. All black with 3 knobs. I knew nothing about guitars at the time just loved the sound. No pick guard by the way. Came like that. Anyway, a few people that do know something about guitars have played it and thought it was great. I love it too.
No pick guard, Derek is right
#teamnopickguard for the win
I’m definitely team no pickgaurd. For the same reason. Why obscure the top? Or block the f-hole?
#teamnopickguard for the win
Had a 90 and a 91, both heavy and nothing special.
I have a 97 Les Paul studio with a G string that won’t stay in tune to save its life. I put a string tree on it and it helps. Now my kid has it as it doesn’t hold a candle to my 80s Yamaha SG’s.
i like the look of certain les pauls with pick guards, it really depends on what model and finish. Burst finishes and the bfg series look best without in my opinion, but they also sit right where i rest my finger sometimes and it throws me off lol. so i made a nice cut in mine where i can slide my fingers down and rest it on the pickup ring
Team no pickguard. Especially on an LP.
No pick guards for sure. Why would you want to cover a beautiful Les Paul top with an ugly pick guard.
Headstock break lol I’ve only heard that from Les Paul’s, you think after 20 to 30 years they would’ve figured that one out, I’ve never seen a fender Strat with a headstock break.
No mention of the role of the wood in this video. Neck carve and staying in tune mentioned - and nothing to do with the quality of the wood. Good guitars a good. Want a good one, then I recommend you buy a good one. How do you know it's good? Try it
No pickguard all the way. I may be old, but I don't have to look old AF when playing my Les Paul's 🤪
Pickguard depends on the top. I have a Les Paul with a solid finish so I left the pickguard on. I have another with a little bit flame under the guard so I took it off so I can see it. It just depends.
Paul Stanley really loves the 94 les paul. He was talking about it on Gibson TV. His are custom shop though.
2002-3 was great for Custom shop
If it comes without a pickguard I think it would look fine but I would never just purposely remove the pickguard. I keep my pickguard on my Les Paul and my 335.
Had an early early 90s les paul studio back in the day and the thing was amazing
Great now early 90’s Gibson prices are going to skyrocket. Thanks.
I think my 97 Goldtop is a good wood erra.. had the dumb green inlays replaced with historic makeovers. Makes the appearance look so much better
I Own 3 Les Paul's
2012 LP Standard Plus Desert Burst (NO PICKGUARD)
2019 LP HP Blueberry Burst (NO PICKGUARD)
My Baby: 1968 LP Custom 5A Quilt Natural Finish (NO PICKGUARD)
All In Mint Condition!!
How many people think their guitar doesn't hold a tune actually just have a house that gets cold at night and hot during the day? No... got to be some mythical magical gate keepy reason instead.
I prefer pickguard on. Looks more distinguished and handsome. Pickguard off can look good depending on the finish but somehow looks incomplete, casual, and a little too PRS or Carvin shredder-style for my taste.
I like both, one month with and one without . What is the white pick you are using ?
The pick guard protects the finish. I see how scratched up my pickguard is and know the finish would be gone there. Pick guard on for sure, I have 4 Les Paul's and they all have the pick guard on. Plus I like to rest my fingers on it.
The “good wood” era has been described as a lot of ranges by a lot of people. Usually within the range of whatever someone is selling. Usually I see the description on late 90s/early 2000s. How well it stays in tune has nothing to do with what year it is though. It’s usually how much love and TLC has been done to the nut. And I agree a les Paul looks better WITH the guard 95% of the time
I’m a fan of the pick guard. It’s classic.
I have a mid 1990s Les Paul Studio. Ebony fingerboard. I dunno about good wood eras, but it definitely sounds great. It was just meant to be a stepping stone as I set out to replace all the guitar stuff i had sold, but it's so good that the Les Paul box is ticked, so I buy other stuff like SGs and an Explorer.
Not skinny, but not fat? Between a 50s and a 60s neck? That's exactly like mine. A little fatter than I usually go for, but I suspect it's part of why it sounds so good.
1990 -2000 are the best years .
I just found out two weeks ago that the Les Paul Studio I inherited from my brother five years ago is a 91’ January 10, 1991. It needs a lot of work though original tuners are hosed has some Grover tuners on it amongst other things