GIG RECAP!: Opening for BACK IN BLACK (AC/DC Tribute)

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  • @jaibeau
    @jaibeau 26 дней назад +99

    Yo, steven from back in black… you’re right, we did let there be rock for you sir. Thanks for the awesome recap. Awesome channel

    • @TheArtofGuitar
      @TheArtofGuitar  26 дней назад +35

      This just made my year!!

    • @SteveFye
      @SteveFye 26 дней назад +12

      This is just way too wholesome! 😂
      All you guys rock!

  • @BackinBlackDallas
    @BackinBlackDallas 26 дней назад +62

    Mike, thank you SO much for the incredibly kind words about our band. We have been fans of your channel for awhile so it was a total trip to share the stage with you, man. And as our bass player Steven said in a previous comment, we added Let There Be Rock for you🤘 Hope our paths cross again very soon! Best wishes and thanks again for this great gig recap😊

    • @TheArtofGuitar
      @TheArtofGuitar  26 дней назад +18

      What a cool gig. Thanks for the comment and thanks for letting there be rock. ;)

    • @jaycer71
      @jaycer71 26 дней назад +1

      Is great to see you guys on this channel. Always loved playing shows with you guys.

    • @roach75
      @roach75 25 дней назад

      Bring them down to Dallas

  • @seven-kk6oz
    @seven-kk6oz 26 дней назад +43

    When are you going to do your own rig run down and show us all your gear?

    • @eldensmith4161
      @eldensmith4161 26 дней назад +1

      Make it happen Mike!

    • @TheGalilee416
      @TheGalilee416 22 дня назад

      I 3rd this, and as a nerd I’d love a video on your guitars and why you have them 🤘

  • @jasonmartin7137
    @jasonmartin7137 26 дней назад +5

    I saw Back in Black at House of Blues in Dallas around 2010. Honestly, if I had closed my eyes, I don't think I could've noticed the difference between them and the real band. That's cool that you got to open for them.

  • @romansingleton8831
    @romansingleton8831 26 дней назад +34

    An angry sound man?! I'm shocked! lol ...cool video. I like these gig reviews you do about your performances.

    • @TheArtofGuitar
      @TheArtofGuitar  22 дня назад +1

      He wasn't angry, just seemed angry. hehe

  • @Gandrigor
    @Gandrigor 26 дней назад +33

    Angus Young is 5’2”😃

    • @TheBcoolGuy
      @TheBcoolGuy 26 дней назад +2

      157 cm. oh dear.

    • @johnjjohningtoniii2439
      @johnjjohningtoniii2439 26 дней назад +2

      @@TheBcoolGuy The tallest member of AC/DC is the bassist and he is 5 foot 8.

    • @nomojo1110
      @nomojo1110 15 дней назад

      Malcolm was a similar height, too, so his Gretsch looked huge, which worked 'cause he made it sound huge! 🤘😆🎸

  • @MikeSmedleyOLDSCHOOLSTRIPERS
    @MikeSmedleyOLDSCHOOLSTRIPERS 26 дней назад +8

    They definitely added Let there be rock for you.

  • @JonHawaii2003
    @JonHawaii2003 26 дней назад +7

    They used to put on this show called Jack FM Throwback down in Dallas. A buddy and I went to a couple of them then they stopped doing it. It was around 20 tribute bands on 3 stages and they headlined the main stage. It was a great time

    • @TeeMost
      @TeeMost 26 дней назад

      Those were great shows. I couldn’t believe how well he nailed both Bon Scott and Brian Johnson not just vocally, but the whole performance.

  • @kilobytedump
    @kilobytedump 23 дня назад +1

    Man I really really enjoy your gig recaps. You're a natural storyteller.

  • @ChanceSteward
    @ChanceSteward 26 дней назад +1

    Back in Black is AMAZING. I know them personally and have seen them 3-4 times. Darren does such a good job switching between Bon and Brian, and instrumentally they're all flawless

  • @blackinblue11
    @blackinblue11 26 дней назад +7

    Uh, glad that the gig went MOSTLY ok for you for a change:) Props to push through it without a monitor!
    I'm sure many can relate, but once we played in the middle of the woods on a small legit transport trailer used for a stage and there was a very passionate sound guy with his home made PA speakers..and was playing my backup 15w solid state, overloaded with a pedal to get some volume..it was a best gig in my life, I thought that I was on a bloody stadium filled with sound, that guy never stopped messing with his tablet. He asked me 15 times if everything is ok:) What a guy
    Bigger stages experience usually has cocky angry sound techs and monitoring sucks, and it's a pain making it through our set.

  • @JC_David
    @JC_David 23 дня назад

    Mike, I just wanna say, from when I first picked up my hand-me-down acoustic, I always watched your videos, you've helped me a lot on my journey of playing guitar, and I am working on lead guitar projects now! I love your videos, never quit posting!

  • @LivingBlessed
    @LivingBlessed 26 дней назад +1

    I saw Back in Black a couple years back. They are awesome. Sounded great. Probably the best AC/DC tribute band I’ve seen. The singer is killer.

  • @joebecht5554
    @joebecht5554 19 дней назад

    Saw Back in Black play Arlington, Tx after a Rangers game. They were great. Very cool how the vocalist transforms from Bon to Brian and back to Bon.

  • @davidtomkins4242
    @davidtomkins4242 26 дней назад +8

    Angus young is famously ‘not tall’

  • @crazycatgamer21
    @crazycatgamer21 26 дней назад +2

    Yo ! Professional soundman here ! I won't speak for all my peers, but you really don't wanna think "I didn't want to bother the sound guy with my mix problem". My job is to make sure you guys can hear yourselves well, are happy and can give the best show you can. I have the whole set to dial in the perfect sound for Front of House, but once the show has started, i won't be dialing your monitors anymore. And if the band sucks because they can't hear themselves, i won't be able to fix that from FoH !
    Never feel bad to ask monitor changes to your sound engineer, that should always be their priority.

    • @scottymontgomery1297
      @scottymontgomery1297 21 день назад

      I had that same problem couple of years ago playing a music on main. I'm from Portland Tn ,, small town about 40 miles north of Nashville. Couldn't hear what I was doing the whole night. Definitely made it rough playing leads.

  • @darandeyoe
    @darandeyoe 26 дней назад +1

    That's awesome they are out across the country. I've opened for them here in San Diego. They are amazing. There are quite a few tribute bands that play all over the country/world from down here in southern California. It's cool to see them grow to that level.

  • @Burkhimself
    @Burkhimself 23 дня назад

    Yup. My band has opened for those dudes many times down here in the Dallas area. Super nice guys. Best AC/DC tribute around for sure. 🤘🏼

  • @TheJprose
    @TheJprose 26 дней назад +3

    You are a super-entertaining and talented storyteller. Perkins! Karma!

  • @napadrummer1143
    @napadrummer1143 6 дней назад

    Saw Back in Black in Honolulu while on vacation. Awesome show (and they did do "Let There Be Rock")!

  • @steveskull
    @steveskull 26 дней назад +1

    You are right. AC/DC should have taken their singer instead of Axl. I watched the BNB doc twice. Was very interesting. So many AC/DC tribs out there. I have friends in several around Toronto. All of them play all over Canada. By the way, I too, play from time to time in a Heart trib. I was originally the guitar player, then quit just before COVID hit but they keep calling me for gigs since I already know all the songs and I can sing. Playing bass for them lately. Great work. Love your channel.

  • @andrewpappas9311
    @andrewpappas9311 26 дней назад +1

    My band opened for a Canadian AC/DC tribute (Hell N Back) a couple of months ago and that was also a lot of fun, those guys were fucking great and some of the nicest dudes ever so this made me remember that story, always fun getting to play with an AC/DC tribute so this was a lot of fun to watch

  • @pamelaarmstrong3612
    @pamelaarmstrong3612 26 дней назад +1

    Love your concert going and playing live stories.

  • @rocknroll1973
    @rocknroll1973 24 дня назад

    You should talk about how great malcolm young is ans his playing style. Take up to my neck in you isolated as an example. Just sheer power, precision and groove, and his tone is just magnificent

  • @evanmiller2579
    @evanmiller2579 21 день назад

    Great story. Totally been there on all accounts. Thanks for sharing.

  • @ForThoseAboutToRockTribute
    @ForThoseAboutToRockTribute 26 дней назад +2

    I love this video! I love hearing stories of other tributes. It's funny you mention "Bon Johnson " That's our singer's name! We also did a gig with a Heart tribute here in Richmond, VA. Great videos Mike. Keep up the great work👍🍻

  • @jaycer71
    @jaycer71 26 дней назад

    Done many shows opening for them. Great band. Great guys. Just pure quality all around. They deserve everything they get.

  • @garwig2
    @garwig2 25 дней назад

    I'd love it if you could make a video about how to get gigs when starting a tribute band. It's a whole different world than doing covers in bars.

  • @rehabdrive5469
    @rehabdrive5469 24 дня назад

    Cool to hear Marcy Playground get a mention! I've been a fan of theirs since 1997. I'm glad they're still around, just wish they had more albums out. I was actually just listening to their debut this past week at work!
    Also, your Bon Johnson comment had me rolling! Looks like the show was pretty awesome!! 🤘

  • @warrennilsen637
    @warrennilsen637 2 дня назад

    Back in Black…. Amazing live!!! And agree, would have loved and preferred to see Darin play w AC/DC. Note, the bass players posture is that of Cliff’s. Not sure if that’s by design but the whole show is wonderful.

  • @jeremysmetana8583
    @jeremysmetana8583 26 дней назад

    You know that clip from The Office that gets around, meme-style, where Steve Carell just keeps repeating, "Oh, god, no! Please! Please god, no!" That's how I feel whenever I am reminded of Marcy Playground. I remember they opened for Toad The Wet Sprocket at the Fillmore in San Francisco in 1997, and they were handing the Sex & Candy cassette single out to the whole crowd for free, and evidently all of my friends were at that show, because almost everybody I knew ended up with that cassette on the floor of their cars.

  • @Meatwhack101
    @Meatwhack101 12 дней назад

    This was friggn awesome

  • @erictobias7
    @erictobias7 26 дней назад +2

    My Journey tribute band played with Back in Black in san Angelo Tx before they did that documentary.It was a backyard party and it was excellent.Their documentary was hilarious!! as for your intro about playing outside.I was in a Kiss tribute band as Peter Criss and we played some bar by a lake and the mosquitoes were full on attack and it was miserable...

  • @russelllagow9169
    @russelllagow9169 26 дней назад +2

    You would hate playing in Texas !

  • @djjamssatx
    @djjamssatx 25 дней назад

    Great video man.
    Yeah those guys are legit. They play regularly at a venue close to me since I’m in Texas and it’s always a super tight show. Alot of those Dallas bands are top tier.

  • @Guitarmachine115
    @Guitarmachine115 26 дней назад

    They’re a great cover band I got to see them in TX they put on a great show

  • @bighardbooks770
    @bighardbooks770 26 дней назад

    *_KILLER!_* Appreciated. I saw Heart w Cheap Trick, Pine Knob, Detroit, 2015.

  • @davidrohland9319
    @davidrohland9319 26 дней назад +1

    I love the “tails from the road” as this is the stuff we deal with on a regular basis.
    I also opened up for Back in Black several years ago. It was such a fun night and we got a great reception from the audience, even being the opening band.
    But while Back in Black was performing, an 80-year-old woman confused me with someone else and punched me in the face. 🥊
    I was surprised, laughed, and she quickly walked away when I turned to tell my bandmates. 😆
    Keep up the great work! 🎸

  • @timothyaandahl5753
    @timothyaandahl5753 26 дней назад

    Great guys!!!!! Have opened for them a few times as part of a Metallica tribute band in the Dallas area. Our James (Who is also Scottie LePage of Polyphia's dad) ended up becoming Back in Blacks "Malcolm" for a couple years.

  • @mullet75
    @mullet75 25 дней назад

    Who Will You Run To is awesome, I wore out my first copy of Bad Animals on cassette….

  • @johnjjohningtoniii2439
    @johnjjohningtoniii2439 26 дней назад

    I don't think I've ever hit play on one of your videos and not watched it to the end.

  • @estring69
    @estring69 22 дня назад

    Back in Black frequently does Houston. Great show. Always fun to see new people surprised by the act. They do take some time for their sound check.

  • @jp9iron
    @jp9iron День назад

    I'm glad you liked back in black. They are awesome and from my home area. I took my first guitar lesson years ago at their Rock School. I think I've seen Heartless advertised around the Dallas area but maybe a different band. I would love to see your band if you make it to Texas.

  • @dacechasinghawk3910
    @dacechasinghawk3910 16 дней назад

    They totally played "Let there be rock" because of you. In 2015 in Sturgis South Dakota I seen a Metallica tribute band and they kicked it in the a**. After the first break I seen a couple band members in the bathroom and asked if they did requests? He said like what? I said "Frayed end of Sanity" because real Metallica never played the full version live. And right after? They get back on stage? And I recognized those first few power chords that ring out. I freaked out and ran up to the stage on time for the singer let me sing "Oh-wee-oh". It was "F"ing awesome. They played flawless the whole song. Not even ten minutes after I asked. First time a tribute band gave me chills. Back in Black totally played that song because they seen your video.

  • @dumpstertrash420
    @dumpstertrash420 26 дней назад

    These gig recaps are great. I'm in a smashing pumpkins tribute and your experiences are so relatable.

  • @esp-music
    @esp-music 26 дней назад

    i wish i saw more footage of the show and of you playing

  • @alpahetmk
    @alpahetmk 26 дней назад

    I saw these guys in some bar a few months ago and they were amazing. The singer sounds exactly like bon scott!

  • @craig2493
    @craig2493 13 дней назад

    I had a job checking on a girl suspected of insurance fraud. We got word she would be at the Back in Black concert in Lancaster, Pa. The Lancaster Police were there getting into the show and music, the girl was there, but her claim was legit, and I had a great time with the whole scene. Wins all around.

  • @brushstroke3733
    @brushstroke3733 26 дней назад

    Just saw an AC/DC tribute band named Captain Angus. They were good enough to pull it off, and that made me and everyone there happy for a few hours.

  • @RQCK0N
    @RQCK0N 26 дней назад

    That was great, really enjoyed the insight of set-up, show and people.

  • @ImYourOverlord
    @ImYourOverlord 26 дней назад

    As young as you are, and not wanting to lug around gear. And here I am, soon to be 59, with two heavy basses, two bass heads, and two bass speaker cabs...and no one roadies for or with me 🤣

  • @regwhitecalf1239
    @regwhitecalf1239 26 дней назад

    My band opened for them in '15, was fun from what I remember.

  • @jp7963
    @jp7963 26 дней назад

    I saw Axl helping DC out when they played Manchester, England and although I'm a fairly big GnR fan too I admit I had a few doubts when it was announced Mr Rose would be stepping in. I have to say though he did a brilliant job. Am sure your Back In Black guy would have nailed it too but Axl really did step up and knocked it out the park so I can't but think they made the right choice.

  • @rrrayrrray
    @rrrayrrray 26 дней назад

    I used to be amazing singer Darren C’s next door neighbor. He and his wife were some of the nicest people you’d ever meet. Glad all went pretty well for you guys!

  • @acousticguitars123
    @acousticguitars123 26 дней назад

    this is cool I can kind of relive my old band days vicariously! please do a video for all gigs

  • @mikefetterman6782
    @mikefetterman6782 26 дней назад

    I saw Neil Young in concert upstate NY back in 1997. The show was just over 3 hours, and he only did about 12 songs. He had solos that went on for 20 minutes.

  • @BassinwBlitzn
    @BassinwBlitzn 26 дней назад

    Your gig recaps are really insightful

  • @benpowersguitar
    @benpowersguitar 26 дней назад

    Cool to hear about the show.

  • @DoomManJJ
    @DoomManJJ 26 дней назад

    Yo. This guy is cool as can be met him at a Cfh concert tonight. Deserves all the love he gets.
    With kind reguards. JJ

  • @franksanantonio8775
    @franksanantonio8775 26 дней назад

    My band opened for them in okc, but they had their own amps. Great band!

  • @matcoffidis1135
    @matcoffidis1135 26 дней назад

    These guys are legit! Great sound..🤘✌️

  • @TeeMost
    @TeeMost 26 дней назад

    I’m in 2 tribute bands here in Dallas. There are lots of outdoor venues in the metroplex and elsewhere in TX and we (and other bands) play outdoors most of the time. It’s hot as hell sometimes but you just deal with it. This 4th of July we played a town festival where the organizer literally almost passed out. My gf caught him before he fell down. The paramedics put cold water bottles on his arteries (good trick to know). It was north of 95 degrees and very humid. There was nowhere nearby with AC. The consensus of my band afterwards was we were all about 3-4 songs away from passing out ourselves. So hearing a Minnesotan complain about the heat is amusing 😉.
    Good video about the typical gig-type stuff. Back in black is a great band, fun that you got to play with them.

  • @singersonspeakerphone2421
    @singersonspeakerphone2421 26 дней назад

    We love you, Mike

  • @MashaT22
    @MashaT22 26 дней назад +2

    Sounds like fun! How on earth did you manage to play without hearing yourself? That’s wild, lol. I always enjoy all the stories you tell that happened before, during, and after the concert. Shoutout to the beefy security guy and serious-but-straight sound guy!

    • @travisspaulding2222
      @travisspaulding2222 26 дней назад

      That's why my band made the transition to IEMs. Now, we get a perfect mix every time. We just got tired of shitty monitor mixes.

  • @HannahCope88
    @HannahCope88 26 дней назад +2

    Awesome gig recap, they sound like a great tribute band! I've yet to see an AC/DC tribute over here, just haven't made it to a show yet, Angus is pretty small, he's actually 2 inches shorter than me haha. Always love to see footage of Heartless playing, Even It Up is a great tune 🙂🤘🏻🔥🤘🏻.That's a cool shirt design, I probably would've gone with that instead of plain black as well!
    So cool they played Let There Be Rock, that's great they watched your video for it, i'm sure they had it in mind when they chose to play it if it wasn't in the setlist. Definitely sounds like the real AC/DC missed a trick not taking on the tribute band singer.

  • @travisspaulding2222
    @travisspaulding2222 26 дней назад

    I have a cabinet I'll probably never sell because Spike Cassidy from DRI played through it when my band opened for DRI, lol. I don't mind doing support slots for bands that need a backline.

  • @chrisa1125
    @chrisa1125 26 дней назад

    It would be awesome if there was a video of the entire show on RUclips!

  • @Stobert
    @Stobert 26 дней назад

    Love the show and gig reviews!

  • @Scott__C
    @Scott__C 26 дней назад

    RCF speakers rock. If he was mixing on an iPad, most of those systems have the ability for all the players to use their own iPads or iPhones to control their own mix.
    I think Shoot to Thrill has Brian's highest notes.

  • @abscence1000
    @abscence1000 26 дней назад

    I lived in bemidji, let me tell ya .. an outside gig in Louisiana during the summer .. yeah talk about hot with mosquitoes and humid .. I’d much rather play in bemidji during the summer lol.

  • @54fighting5
    @54fighting5 26 дней назад

    I've seen their doc and it's really good. It's a roller coaster of a story leaving the viewer to think several times that this band with so much potential was finished. In the end friendship endured over all obstacles. It's a great story. Thanks for sharing your take from the opening band point of view.....even showing us the warts (poor Greg😂).

  • @thew1zard__
    @thew1zard__ 26 дней назад

    damn, Marcy Playground playing your amps is wild
    more of a Wave Motion Gun kinda guy

  • @mmiller6873
    @mmiller6873 26 дней назад

    I watched that documentary and thought it was done very well. Pretty awesome you got to open up for them. Sounds like you had a blast so that is a bonus. Well done on the review 🙂

  • @chrissguitarshow206
    @chrissguitarshow206 26 дней назад

    I love your channel. I would love to see you show how to play different songs since educational music channels are actually in trouble on RUclips.

  • @jeffbradley3184
    @jeffbradley3184 26 дней назад

    Thunderstruck is a great tribute band as well. I have some RUclips videos from them. I was standing in the pouring rain, enjoying every second of it.

  • @bretwaldablahblahblah3578
    @bretwaldablahblahblah3578 26 дней назад

    Good stuff. I think Angus is a small guy, a bit like myself.

  • @robertschlueter7249
    @robertschlueter7249 26 дней назад

    I use to live in Dallas , I’ve seen them many times, & met them a few times. All great guys !
    Darren should have gotten the Gig , he sang with them for like 3 hours . My take on it is that the promoters had the stadium shows booked & wanted a big name to replace Brian , the promoters weren’t willing to go with Darren even though he is great .

  • @jakebeaudrie
    @jakebeaudrie 26 дней назад

    Pointless side note: Marcy Playground has some really great records. I always thought they were kind of a one hit wonder but their more recent stuff is awesome. Ok. Back to this: Great video! Huge fan of the gig recaps.

  • @Mike-qe3nq
    @Mike-qe3nq 24 дня назад

    My understanding is there are at least four Black in Black bands throughout the USA. AC/DC is probably the shortest band ever.

  • @threeleggedman
    @threeleggedman 26 дней назад

    In the old days you could look over at the sound man and get his attention easily. These days you look over and he's gone. You have to scan the crowd for a guy looking down at his iPad.

  • @rich6867
    @rich6867 26 дней назад

    Thanks. Great recap

  • @mykneeshurt8393
    @mykneeshurt8393 26 дней назад

    Great video. Sounds like a fun time.

  • @thebluesrockers
    @thebluesrockers 26 дней назад

    There's a Canadian, Cover band that you should cover. A band called "The Snowdogs" pretty impressive. I think you'd enjoy them.
    I love hearing your input on cover bands. I really hope you cover them. at least check them out. The latest tune was Rush "Limelight"
    drummer is mind blowing.

  • @meljohnson5579
    @meljohnson5579 26 дней назад

    Love this type of video😅

  • @LuisLondonG
    @LuisLondonG 22 дня назад

    I am surprised that even after all those years of playing you didn’t mentioned the monitor to the sound tech. Monitors are very important, you need to hear yourself

    • @TheArtofGuitar
      @TheArtofGuitar  22 дня назад

      It's exactly because I've played live for so long that I had the confidence to play without monitors. I've done it before in this band. I also knew from experience that the soundguy wasn't going to be looking up any time soon (if I could even find him in the crowd with his Ipad) so I went without.

  • @NytronX
    @NytronX 24 дня назад +1

    Were you at the Metallica show last night?!

  • @danielj_music
    @danielj_music 24 дня назад

    Did they play Riff Raff, though? AC/DC's best song imo!

  • @jessecovey1778
    @jessecovey1778 26 дней назад

    I saw Back in Black back in 1997, ‘98? They played Barre, VT. Also, Static X has a bunch of songs about Otsego.

  • @Ottophil
    @Ottophil 26 дней назад

    The ac dc cover band in my area is called Halfway to Hell. The guitarist Tony is a dork

  • @Groovegandalf
    @Groovegandalf 24 дня назад

    Angus and Malcolm were about 5'4". The opposite of tall. Even Bon and Brian Johnson are kind of smaller dudes.

  • @teresathomley3703
    @teresathomley3703 26 дней назад

    Thank you Mike.

  • @jackssmack8859
    @jackssmack8859 26 дней назад

    God loves you

  • @216trixie
    @216trixie 26 дней назад

    I'd like to see you dress up in some roger fisher or Howard lees Looking clothes, jackets From the 70s.

  • @MariUSukulele
    @MariUSukulele 26 дней назад

    My wish candidate (instead of Axl, whom i saw w/ the band - and appreciated) would’ve been: Nikki Hill!

  • @NytronX
    @NytronX 22 дня назад

    We need a Metallica review video! I know you were at the snake pit at US Bank Stadium!

  • @jeremysteffen7853
    @jeremysteffen7853 26 дней назад

    I'm beginning to think that Mike isn't going for the gig as much as to check the security at each location.

  • @1HandsomeDevil
    @1HandsomeDevil 26 дней назад +1

    So how did those FOH 'skinny speakers' sound during the actual show ... as good as your buddy predicted?

    • @TheArtofGuitar
      @TheArtofGuitar  26 дней назад +1

      Sounded great.. Perhaps could have used another pair but from what I remember it was pretty damn full-sounding.

  • @chadleefishel6074
    @chadleefishel6074 26 дней назад

    Great video…

  • @jimglass3106
    @jimglass3106 26 дней назад

    Always hated playing shows outside. The sound just seems to stop dead at the edge of the stage and just generally sounds less heavy. Not to mention that one of my favorite parts of seeing/playing a show is the moment you go from total dark to instant excitement. I hate it when the band just walks out,which is all you can do outdoors.

  • @bishopsopening
    @bishopsopening 26 дней назад

    awesome breakdown - love these ones ( p.s. end up getting that white jackson bass, just looks so awesome.. need a few years to learn-to-play now :D )