Lens Review: Tamron 70-180mm 2.8 vs Sony 70-200mm 2.8 GM
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- Evelyn Drake tests the NEW Tamron 70-180mm F2.8 lens vs. the Sony 70-200mm GM lens to see how they compare. Watch to find out how the Tamron performs in terms of image quality, autofocus performance, and the physical feel.
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This review was funny as hell. Congrats on the colab. She's beautiful.
Great review Ev, really useful and lovely to see you both x
Congratulations to you and Jordan on your successful collaboration. And thank you for your perspective on this new Tamron lens.
The tamron is a great lens optically, actually tested sharper than the GM! Yes...it is actually sharper especially into the corners. Another thing against the GM..it has a known back focus issue with many sony full frame bodies. Id avoid the GM as its due for a refresh (mkii version?) And get the Tamron. Its a gem
Buying the a7iii+Tamron Trinity is around the same price of an old XT3+Fujifilm Trinity.
IMHO I think the Sony ecosystem is unbeatable when it comes to the cost/performance ratio.
Yes Sir, A7iii having 2.35x larger sensor than APSC XT3, and their prices being same, Sony is a steal. If we compare XT4, Sony is even cheaper ... (including Tamron Trinity).
First of all, I have to say that you look great Evelyn and I am glad that the baby arrived safely during this stressful time. I am sure that she is taking your mind off of the lockdown! Congratulations to the whole Drake ( now complete!) family!
As for the Tamron, I almost pre ordered it but am am not as bullish on it as I was about the 28-75 and 17-28 zooms. I was hoping that it would be smaller than my Sony 70-200 f4 ( it is, but only by a smidge) and I think giving up the lens IS , the internal zoom, the various control buttons and the tripod collar plus the extra telephoto zoom ( and the build quality!) are too much of a trade off for getting f2.8 vs f4, especially for a daytime walkaround and landscape lens. I might change my mind once I can actually test one out in person. I would love for you to do a head to head comparison of the Tamron to the Sony f4 telephoto in a future update ( especially for the image quality.) I think that quite a few people will be in the same frame of mind as the weight,. size and price of the Sony 70-200 f4 is more in line with the Tamron 70-180 f2.8 than the G Master. The macro feature of all of these newest lenses being released is a nice bonus, though! So nice to see you back!
As usual a wonderful review. Congrats on your beautiful baby !!! Ron just told us about the baby a couple of days back. We are doing our best to keep safe like everyone else and looking forward to come see you people at the store. 🧡
Love it - congrats to you both!!!
I really didn't knew that you two were together!
congrats!
Congratulations!
I ended up getting the 70-200mm F2.8 GM on the used market. Was only 2500 CAD. Tamron 70-180mm F2.8 is overpriced in Canada when you look at exchange rate.
Same and I have no regrets even though it was more expensive!!
Probably the most concise and clear review of this lens I've seen so far, you address all the questions everyone is asking without taking too long. Big thanks!
I like your new collaboration. Congratulations! Enjoy your new family member and have a wonderful time all together.
Congratulations Jordan and Evelyn!
I think the Tamron is fine, but a Sigma 70-200mm f2.8 is rumored to be on its way and that might be better. I would really like to complement either of them with the Sony 200-600mm.
Congratulations to you and Jordan! That's the best collaboration I've seen since the start of RUclips 😄
Edit: something tells me Jordan has been editing this video (something being 4:00)
I’m torn... I travel and I need the light weight and the small size. But I also shoot fast moving cars quite often and the stabilization would definitely help. I have a buddy who just bought the GM, so, I can at least try that lens first.
In reality, I am limited for space in my backpack, weight really is an issue and I know that Tamron will be great on the a7III and also a great match with the a6600. Both those cameras have IBIS (which does help), and the light weight 6600 would pair up great with the Tamron and offer a 270mm reach.
... I think I know what I need to do! If I need the 70-200 GM, I’ll rent it. 👍
And Congratulations on a new baby girl! She will be your little angel!
First minute: why does the boy looks like Jordan’s son.
After seen the collab: Ooooooooh that’s why!
Congrats!
Is it just me or does that baby look like Gordon Laing?
Well, i currently own both the 17-28mm and the 28-75 rxd, and i am impressed with the results coming from these new tamron lenses. As a 70-200 i currently use the Canon f4 with IS, and with the sigma mc11 it works like a charm honestly. But considering the extra stop, weight, and just awesome output and performance of the other 2 tamrons, i might consider this 70-180mm..
And congrats with your little one..!
Seems the tameron 70 180 2.8 810 g lens is good for portraits, animals, some sports. Will it work for landscape in manual f11 vs the heavy, large 150 500 1880g tameron. I use sony a7r3, have only 16-35 f4,85 1.8, tameron 90 2.8 and want to try landscape and exterior buildings . My bad back makes the weight of the 150 500 a concern.
I also have the rx100 vii with 24 200 20 mp built-in
Great review but what about differences like vignetting, flares, cromatic alberations, sharpness around the corners?
Since I recently bought the Sony 18-105/4.0 and am meddling about in the APS-C league, I am set in that sort-of-range compared to my economic situation. Not that I'd say no to either of the tested lenses if offered for (next-to) free! And since I'm living the that outlier country of Sweden when it comes to covid-19 I'm doing just fine... A bit miffed the planned 2020 trip to Canada got postponed, but...
P.S. Congrats on the collaboration.
"outlier country of Sweden".. LOL. I think you're are doing well in terms of the long term effect of the virus in the nation!
Another thing you didn't discuss, by only being 180mm instead of 200mm you have to get closer to the subject for the same framing as 200mm, resulting in more background separation and blur. Which is nice as hell.
Great review! I’ve got an a7iii, using the Tamron 28-200 to shoot middle school indoor sports (basketball) and have problems in low light. I’m planning to upgrade to the 70-180, and your real world review with the apparent auto focus upgrade and 2.8 has helped me to decide!
Thank you!
I’ve got the Sony but I’ve ordered the Tammy. I intend to use the Tammy Holy Trinity as my everyday carry and the GM for events. One thing I like about the Sony is that I can remove the tripod mount and attach my Blackrapid strap directly to the lens.
Just ordered the Tamron 70-180 to go with my Sigma 24-70 F2.8 on my A7IV. Looking forward to it, waited and waited for a Sigma E Mount 70-200 range F2.8 and just got fed up of waiting.
This was a great review! Detailed but to the point as always while also having fun with the process! Love the genuine content guys, big ups :)
if tamron keeps making smaller and even smaller good quality lens for mirrorless camera, they will be the ultimate lens maker in the future … period … cause that’s what everybody wants … who wants a big fat heavy expensive sony lens on a tiny mirrorless body!!!
Kai Zen I know that I do not want big heavy lenses, period. I get exhausted just thinking about Canons huge f1.2 lenses
Everybody? Speak for yourself. I want lenses with top IQ and no compromises for me, Sigma is the ONE. Respect that other people have different needs than you do.
Hi Ev, congrats again to you and Jordan for having cute Ivy. 😍
In Metro Manila (comprised of several cities including Manila), we are in lockdown from March 16 to May 15. During this time, I am considering buying a low end interchangeable lens camera to replace my ancient Nikon D80. I'm considering the upcoming Canon 850d (T8i), Fujifilm X-T30, and the Sony A6400. I am looking forward to your future comparison video (hopefully). 😁
Take care guys.
Hi Eve! In the last weeks i thought sometimes: "When will the baby comes?" And NOW IT IS HERE!!!
Gratulation! You did a good job! ;-) Wish you all the best for your whole family! Wolf
I personally bought the 70-200 GM (from TCS on Boxing day last year) already so the tamron wasn't available and after looking at the reviews online for the Tamron I'm going to stick to the GM despite the extra size and weight. I like the extra controls and buttons, built in OSS and really wanted the teleconverter support the GM supports. Also 1 thing most don't seem to mention is the focusing ring of the GM is mechanically connected to the front focus motor not electronically connected so focus can be adjusted manually and linearly at any time.
Congratulations on the new baby - so very happy for you and also happy to see you back!
I can't be the only one that didn't know Eve and Jordan were together 😲. Congrats
Great video. Congrats on the collab project!
First off congrats on the new little one. I'm late but good for both of you. Thanks for the review but maybe the next one should be between the Tamron 70-180 2.8 and the Sony 70-200 f4. I know I know they are the same but it could be an interesting comparison
Beautiful episode. Congratulations! Was this shot on the S1H?
Beautiful collaboration, congratulations guys!!! And thanks for the review
I’ve certainly noticed the focus & zoom controls on my Sony & Tamron are opposites. So it does cause me to make the mistake of mixing the controls up if I don’t look and check. A big difference in price is in tamron’s favour. Thank you for your knowledge and recommendations.
Nice review. The only thing I would disagree with is the image stabilization being a problem. In my testing I was able to get tac sharp images at 1/30th because of the IBIS in the A7R4. so not much to worry about there. Regarding video, this lens is small enough to fit on my gimbal as well! So this is truly a no brainer! Thanks again for the great review.
I don't own any Sony products currently. I watch your reviews because I like your presentations. Your format is fairly simple and uncomplicated and that appeals to me.
As for the virus, speaking selfishly this thing could have held off for a few more years. I'm 68 and at best I've got 8-12 more years left. I'm just a little pissed that I've got maybe 2 years out from now wasted waiting for a vaccine or at least an effective treatment for this f&^%#&g virus.
I'm already looking forward to your next review. Thanks!
If this happened in the '90s, I'd have wholeheartedly agreed. Fortunately we have all sorts of tech around to help make the world smaller. I've been talking with my dad and grandad more than ever (although we're already divided by the Atlantic already) and spending so much more time with my own little family, not wasting 2 hours a day on commuting but still being productive makes it much better. Not having access to a gym hurts a bit, but it's got us considering if we can move to permanent work from home situations that moving to somewhere less built up would be more possible.
I do miss watching sport, especially that my grandad's team was so close to being league champions for the first time in my memory is just cruel too.
I will be pre-ordering this lens. I don't care about the extra 20mm and my Sony a6600 has IBIS. Not only that but I'm buying it for family and individual portraits which I take outside so I should have sufficient shutter speed. There have been so many reviews saying this lens produces good image quality and it's sharp. I wish it was a bit less expensive but at least I can scrape up enough cash to buy it unlike the Sony which is clearly out of my reach.
Congrats to you both on the new baby :D
I was considering the Tamron, then figured that it'd take forever to get since I hadn't preordered it, so I just ordered the 135GM instead. A bit of an impulsive, quarantine boredom-fuelled decision, but I don't think I'll be disappointed :)
The 135mm GM is an amazing lens.
Congratulations to the family, it’s good to see you again and you look great.
Congratulations to you and Jordan on the successful "Collaboration". Another well presented review.
Thanks for this review of the Tamron 70-180. I like lenses that lean towards less weight, size and cost plus having a good constant maximum fast aperture like 2.8. This lens has all of that.
5:00 the difference in contrast between the two images really makes the sony look like the tamron photo was shot on any old camera. Whereas the Sony looks like a magazine photo. Is this all down to the lens or are they processed differently?
The exposure settings were identical and they were straight out of camera images (no processing) It's possible that my subjects head was in a slightly different position in relation to the sun in the examples. But, I saw similar results in a few samples when shooting directly into the sun. If you are shooting normally, like I did with most of the other shots, the difference in contrast is not very noticeable between the lenses. It's only a bit of an issue in this specific circumstance.
Great review and congrats on your new baby !!!
There is a way too use the Sony teleconverters and this is true with all brands, lenses, and bodies. Just use an extension ring behind the lens. That provides the distance the teleconverter requires. It does reduce the aperture a bit more, but has the advantage of increasing the macro capabilities. However, extension tubes prevent the lens reaching infinity focus, although, depending on the subject distance and aperture, the depth of focus may well extend to infinity from a point that is not technically infinity focus. Oh the joys of working within the compromises needs to get photographs :)
Nice review. With the number of these lenses that are out for a review. I’m hoping that their will be plenty availble for consumers. I ordered mine a month ago. I am anxiously awaiting it.
The quality seems really good, though I wonder about the lack of OIS if you want to take images indoors without a speedlight. While OIS does not do anything for subject motion, it also does not mean that the subject needs something like 1/300s shutter speed. OIS helps to keep the focus more on what is needed to freeze the action of the subject without much concern for the camera or lens. Anyway, awesome review and I would live to see them come out with an OIS version. Other than that, I wonder if they would be willing to include a sample raw file of anything that can be examined for fine detail/ sharpness, and if possible, 1 additional for bokeh.
I did a lot of research on my own and the Tamron will be arriving at my door tomorrow.
Man, look at the market (stackline.com) March 2020 vs March 2019:
Video Cameras -46%
Camera Lenses -47%
Drones -50%
Camera Bags & Cases -54%
Cameras -64%
God bless TCS(TV)!
I have an A7c, and this is about as big as I'd go. I'd probably choose a Sony 70-200 F4. Image stabilization is more important than larger aperture. Congratulations on your (2 year old now)great job as always!
As a event photographer for over a decade I disagree that having the Sony 70-200 would be desirable. When you work a wedding your working 12 hour day. You have flashes, you may have strobes. Your carrying two bodies and extra lenses. The tamron holy trinity is the size of Fuji zooms. By the time you hit the reception where you need that 70-180 your dead tired if you’ve been shooting the 70-200 it feels like picking up a weight again and again. And who cares about the lack of stabalization. You’ll be shooting at speeds above 1/60 so that the people aren’t blurred. Either lens would be an ace for wedding but I’d give the edge to the tamron. The only flaw in the tamron system is between the cross over with the 17-28 and 28-75. The 28-75 lacks the extra wide that you will need through out the day. And the 17-28 lacks 35 for proper elegant environmental portraiture. The 28 is too weird and journalistic for proper portraits through out the day. This means you will be bouncing between those two lenses in the day where as with Sony the 24-70 is sufficient wide to leave on all day. Or if you’re going wide you have 35 on the 16-35
I preordered the 70-180. I shoot 99% stills, mostly outside. I'm not concerned about the lack of OSS. My a6500 IBIS should be enough. I like the size and weight.
The contrast part looks sketchy. The Sony shot clearly has the sun behind your son's head, where the Tamron shot has it above the head (and a little bit to the right). I don't own either of them but I haven't seen any lens which would hold contrast THAT well when shooting right against the sun. So I think this part is a little misleading. I would still love to find out how they compare in terms of ghosting and veiling flare. Thank you for the review!
Nice review 👍🏻 one important factor regarding the weight: I’ve tried both Sony 70-200 lenses and the f.28 would be exhausting carrying around for an extended period of time. The Tamron size/weight is exactly why I’m leaning towards it. Especially if you’re into hiking or anything outdoors where you’re carrying all your gear. The F2.8 feels like a manhole lid hanging from your neck 🤣 I love my Tamron 28-75 f2.8 even without all the bells and whistles.
Question would the 70-180 2.8 be better for portraits at 180 wide open than a 55mm 1.8 with the added compression or would the 1.8 give better bokeh?
Fantastic colab -- congratulations Evelyn and Jordan -- and a good review (as always). I am firmly in the "rest of us" camp having already been using the 28-75 for almost two years. The 70-180 seems the right choice and with the resolution of my R2 I can easily crop my way to 200 if I need to. Ha ha cry cry... TMI indeed; poor Jordan.
Congratulations!! I follow Jordan and you in DP Review and here and I am super excited to see your baby's face here! Precious! I hope you enjoy that wonderful part of life! Again! I have the Tamron in my wish list too! take care!
Excellent review. Concise, clear, covered the important points with nice examples and comparison.
I’m completely new into mirrorless. So far committed to buy a A7R II and the Zeiss T* 35mm 2.8. I think it’s a really good alternative for the Leica Q and far more versatile.
Will definitely get the 200-600mm 5.6-6.3 G OSS for moon and sun shots.
And for something in between, this Tamron seems the answer. Adds a lot of versatility in a light package.
I’m not sure will get used to EVF, so the 3 lens setup should do fine, though it’s strange to be without a fast prime.
Or maybe should go the 135mm 1.8 GM route?
I never use the EF 2x II with the Canon 70-200mm 2.8L IS II, but if I didn’t have the 100-400mm 4.5-5.6L IS II, probably would use it.
I had the impression there’s a really small difference between the 135mm 2.0L and the 70-200 at 135. And maybe it will be almost the same comparing the 135mm 1.8 GM and the 70-180 at 135mm.
Congratulations on the new addition to your family!
Nice review, thank you! How ist autofocus accuracy between 70-100 mm on the Tamron. Any abnormalities?
Congrats to you and Jordan on the baby. She is so cute! And thanks for the review. It's really helpful information.
Great review, and congratulations to you both!
Does it hit the quoted specs of 70-180mm f2.8, or is it more like 80-160/3.2? I know some budget zooms are a bit flexible, shall we say, with the tolerances. Would be useful to know, thanks.
Did you get a chance to compare focus breathing or how parfocal the lenses are? These would be two things of interest to those who might be looking to shoot video with the lenses. Also, did you get a chance to test magnification at the LONG end of the lens at MFD? I know some lenses act like they have a shorter max focal length when zoomed and shooting at their MFD?
I was thinking about getting this lens in the future. I like the 28-75. 2.8. I use my Tamron 70-200 2.8 sp2 with MC-11 adapter and it works fine.
Can I use tamron 70-180 on a cropped sensor like Sony a6000.
Tamron has come out with some wonderful lenses for the Sony and other systems. I'd love to see them introduce a light weight and affordable long telephoto lens - something like a 200-600mm!
I shoot gigs and I had the Sony 70-200 f/2.8 (gen 1) and wasn't that impressed so ended up selling it, where as I'm much happier with the Tamron 28-75 f/2.8. Okay totally different lenses, but I don't miss the lack of IS on the Tamron when shooting on an A9 or an A9ii, so I wouldn't say that is a reason to choose the Sony over the Tamron for events. Looking at my lenses that I used for gigs, they are mostly fast primes, at f/1.8 or faster and none of them have IS. I just have two bodies, one wide, one long. I will probably get another 70-200-ish lens at some point as there are times when having a zoom is a big advantage and I'll probably end up with the Tamron - it has very good image quality and I quite like having a lighter lens. Can't see me buying the gen 2 version of the Sony 70-200 though unless someone else is paying for it.
I am using Sony 2.8 and one reason for spending so much on the lens is that I can use it with the 1.4 teleconverter. Third party brands are slow to come up with lenses for Sony.
You keep going about stabilization for events. First MOST sony camera already have stabilization and plus stabilization does not freeze the world so the little advantage of combining ibis with the lens stabilization will hardly matter when you are keeping shutter speeds at a decent speed to take photos during events since people are hardly going to freeze for you.
Honestly, the only time I would choose the Sony lens is if I was a pro or had unlimited funds. Otherwise the price difference enables a purchase of some other nice lens e.g. a real macro lens. Totally agree with you on the weight etc. Walking around with the Tamron is way more comfortable.
WHOA! Congrats!. I never knew you two are a couple. Ivy is so cute!
Congratulations!!! What a beautiful baby :)
God bless you guys. Great colab work... You guys make a beautiful family and great reviews.
What a lovely collaboration! Congratulations!
Best regards from Germany, great and informative Video ! Do you have test the Tamron on a @6400?
Good review as usual.
Will you consider to do the comparison between the Tamron and the Sony 70-200mm f4. I know a lot of people said it is two different category of product. (I don’t know why nobody comment about the comparison of Sony f2.8 vs f4.) For the size and price, Sony 70-200 f4 is quite similar to Tamron. Also one of the advantage of Sony f4 is stabilisation. It can compensate at least one stop of exposure.
For me, I never considered the f4 because I want to use the lens in less than ideal light and fairly high shutter speeds - where OIS isn't that useful as it can't prevent the subject from moving. If you're not dealing with moving objects though, I'm sure the f4 is fine. There. Perfect comparison.
I LOVE this video. Very informative. I know that no one is able to test for this right now, but I am eager to find out how this holds up in an ice arena shooting hockey. I imagine the loss of 20mm isn't the end of the world, but any insight would be amazing!
I did some lowlight testing. I think it would do well as long as you use it on a camera with IBIS.
Thanks for answering what I wanted to know which was does the teleconverters work (no). Congrats on the baby! Now if Tamron only came out with a 180-600....
Lovely video and all the best with the little one!
Congratulations you two! She is gorgeous!
Thanks Evelyn, and congrat’s to you both. Have been “lucky” to work in a hospital, so have been working the whole time, lucky not to be one of the millions worrying about paying my rent ect. Stay safe.
At 9:03, you're right on the money!
Should have been a comparison between the Tamron and Sony 70-200 f4. (Apples to apples kind of).
My favourite camera store! Calgary represent
Tamron is making a great job. I love this review, so professional and at the same time intimate and fun, making this hard time better for all of us viewers.
You are the best photo family hehe. Your kids are adoooooorable.
Amazing collaboration! Congratulations.
I "may" switch from the 70-200mm f/4 G OSS to this Tamron... I wish that Tamron had come out with a compatible teleconverter. The Tamron trio of 17-28mm, 28-75mm and this 70-180mm could be an ideal combination...
Fantastic review!
Congratulations and blesssings!!!! Nice lens, I want one in Nikon Z mount, any rumors on that?
Thanks for this review, very helpful and freaking funny. I’m sold on the Tamron after doing a fair bit of research.
The most important for pro lens is the contrast against tha sun!! Thanks for the samples.
Great review!
The only edge the sony left with me to decide it over tamron is the tele-converter. I can slap it on the sony for an entire different genre. And then remove it to use back as a normal walkaround. Not the same can be done with 100-400. nor this tamron yet.
Why sony G master series fails most of the time dispite being so professional and expensive?
Thumbs up on this great video. Great info. Thanks for sharing.
Great, practical lens review. Congratulations on your beautiful newborn and her charming brother.
70-200mm GM do you think it should be updated? like the canon series of 70-200mm ?
Yes I think it's due for an update from Sony. It was an early G Master lens. All their more recent lenses have been fantastic.
Love it! Congrats and Great video.
Congrats on the collaboration LOL. great review! Be safe, cheers from Costa Rica!