my pc is low end and i was playing as germany defeated everyone but north and south america and it was 1946 it was so laggy and disgusting i stopped playing that.
@@nikakentchuashvili5864 When I played into the late game for some achievement I would draw up a battle plan and just leave it running as I did other stuff, like watching a movie, making dinner, having a smoke. Checking back in now and then, things never changed much between check-ins
I want you to know I felt that rant about not being able to get supply through naval zones in my soul. Exact same thing happened in my most recent game when a handful of subs still managed to absolutely ruin my supply route across the black sea even though I had my entire destroyer escort fleet out hunting them.
Try Restarting/ Reloading. It refreshes supply and removes "local supply bases" on encircled tiles as well. sometimes triggers the War support bug though
@@raoulsandhu1415 Generally prefer the Irish stuff. Lyons Gold Blend is my favourite but Yorkshire Tea is a decent substitute as it's Assam-based as well.
Having just done this achievement the other day I can honestly say I felt your pain at the end of that video. Throwing what little manpower you have at Germany until eventually it falls over and dies. Needless to say though great video!
I used to neglect towed AA until I got severally punished for it. A small number of factories can supply a lot of support AA. The problem with annexing a puppets navy is they don't tend to have good module's, your escort Destroyer's need 2 Torpedoes, Sonar and 1 Depth charge but the AI doesn't make good ship's.
I love watching all these disaster saves and watching Bitt3r be like "Eh maybe I'm a little wrong about light tanks, now lets milk them to finish this save and forget about this knowledge 'til the next video." xD love the saves and other vids too!
It is my first vid of Disaster Saved. I gotta say - not that I don't like your guides, no, I love them, but vids like these also very veeeeeeeery nice to watch.
1:00 "Not entertaining, I apologize" - this grind and frustration is exactly what we all expect when we play this came, bud, it's educative when we see how you deal w it, honestly :)
looks like the naval supply is coming from Athens to Italy, so even though you controlled the Adriatic they are still getting raided in the Mediterranean
I think the issue with supply in Italy is cause by blocking off the sea zone after it has supply through that zone. I've had similar issues in different situations, when there's a perfectly good route but they just don't use it properly and setting the zone to yellow usually fixes it.
I really enjoyed this thanks - it is especially good to watch a video where things don't go to plan. So many videos show perfect play which is demoralising to a player where things go wrong all the time. A supply idea - I wonder whether you could have broken through Trieste-Venice to get more supply by land. Hard to see on the video but looked like the ITIs had pulled troops out of there or there were even empty tiles. Any way look forward to the next one. MMM
I am learning a lot. I tend to never strategically retreat for a better defensive position, and I have an over reliance on massed infantry. I usually win all of my campaigns against the AI, but it tends to take me well past 1945 and I rely on completely overwhelming them with sheer numbers.
At least 100 planes is nice, its round number and makes it easy to manage, i prefer wings of 200 but never in anything other then an incriment of 50 (with a minimum of 100 of course unless scraping literal bottom of barrel somehow)
I've had the same problems in Italy several times. I didn't blame it on supply, I think it may be due to Italians having a bonus on core territory due to high war support. I also usuallly solve it with more naval invasions. In addition, I love using 20 width light tank divisions. Can even function without logistics companies. Not as much punch as mediums ofc. Interesting to watch these saves because you touch on so many subjects and often made mistakes. I wish I had my old disaster save that was unsavable I think.... Maybe I'll try to recreate it
Around 19:30 when you left a single tank in Sofia. You made a Frontline with just that tank. Wouldn't it be better to just Ctrl+H it to unassign it from orders? That way it won't leave when the Frontline stretches, and other tanks won't automatically assign to that "Frontline" after closing an encirclement?
You may have saved the game, but at what cost I wonder? Imagine a world where a Lithuanian-Polish rises out of WWII. What does that future look like? Scary.
You know, I wander if its feasible to have a mixed tank program Have some good mediums to make the initial breakthrough, exposing empty tiles, use infantry to do pinning attacks so they don't quickly get reinforced, then rush light tanks through the empty tiles to disorganize their front.
I don't really think that messing up supply routes in mediterranean is wise. Some in the comments would argue that the game might bugged and try restarting/reloading may solve... The thing is that when ignoring Tyrrhenian sea and supplying through Adriatic sea ONLY will make AI discover that there's no convoys in other region and then pour everything to Adriatic sea, then the chaos. Convoys are pretty much expendible when you HAVE a plan to naval invade AI since they will lure the enemy navy away. Yes convoys may only head to the largest port, but that just leave AI triple the regions to raid. Your army is much more valuable than some convoys. And don't mess with the supply routes when you trying to naval invade, it will cost your armies' lives instead.
Planes in italy did not work because they had no supply. And your convoy escort was so bad. It would have been better to take your entire navy split it in 8 and make all 8 convoy escort. Also you should have use cas for naval strike in adriatic sea and you should not have closed the rome sea region
I think the player did this to himself, the player with the axis defeated the early allies so now Germany is super powerful has a big navy no problems at all, a bad idea in general, he just needed to stop the game there and start doing a good line of defense, take out Italy and then enjoy driving around Germany with some tanks or 40 with infantry.
A little late now, but the stock rn is quite capable of killing subs. The E/F/G/H class destroyers have sonar and depth charges, and the A/B/C/D class do as well, but are tier 1. Which is fine for subs. Put these on convoy escort with an admiral that has good defense. Also, the Italian AI NEVER EVER builds capital ships. Ever. In 2700 hours of playing I've never seen them build anything bigger than light cruisers. Naval supremecy shouldn't be any issue whatsoever with stock RN. Against Germany and Italy..
@@Bitt3rSteel i feel that and also thank you for explaining the supply problem over sea tiles a bit better. me and my friend played an Axis game when we went to invade the US we couldn't get any supply even with well over 300 ships in almost every tile form Germany to the US. Also thank you for the Lithuania guide super helpful super fun i make those motorized division all the time works great with any country that can make them.
I had a austria hungary game that was going super great until Germany decided to mash its face into the maginot and not capitulated the french before attacking russia. Ok though I don't mind a challenge. I'm killing it in Russia. Then U.S. joins and ONE MONTH LATER italy declairs on Greece. 95% of my army is in the Urals NOT on my border with Greece.
What are your thoughts on choosing the doctrine for a tank build? I thought that right-right mobile warfare is the meta for tonks in the current patch.
You really should edit your video sound with de-essing, this is a technique to reduce the excessive prominence of sibilant consonants, such as the sounds normally represented in English by "s", "z", "ch", "j" and "sh".
Not 100%, but I think its not efficient to give fters both orders. In combat you need 'green air' from fters on air superiority. If you are just defending against bombers, you can save fuel and air accidents by going interception ?
you get manpower just from territory alone. there is a difference between core territory and occupied territory core means that you own/entitled to it and you get more manpower in that area 100% resources and etc. occupied gives a lot less in everything
Hi, i know I'm a bit late for the answer. You can also get some manpower by making a colonial template if you have a puppet. These colonial template use your puppet's manpower to some extent depending on how far from independance they are. Be careful though, i think it gives them autonomy points through war-participation.
You did not check the occupation law. Occupation law can easily consume millions of men if you do harsh occupation you could also have asked india or uk for garrison support
Mathematically, 50 performs best, as it's the samllest functional air wing, making them perform the most amount of attacks. But 100 is easier for maths
I totally disagree with you, cause I played chekoslovakia already on hard and if you want to defeat the German mar machinery you can do lighting strikes with like 3 tanks to cut Germany in a half so the Italian and Hungarians have to supplie dozens of German troops, so you can take Bavaria, Baden Württemberg and nearly every Austrian territory without a big fight, after that regenerate and than do 1 huge push to Berlin, from Berlin to Hamburg and than push to Frankfurt, this works with every nation, for the French, free Belgium and push to Frankfurt, regenerate, free the Netherlands and give up Frankfurt if there is a huge preasure from the germans, instead push from Belgium to the Rhineland, regenerate and than push to Wilhelmshaven, try to encircle germans through a push for the Rhineland and than attack about the river and push to Munich, after that the entire German front will collapse, that would be much harder, without the fast regeneration from blitz
"I just want this to be over"
The true HOI4 late game experience.
my pc is low end and i was playing as germany defeated everyone but north and south america and it was 1946 it was so laggy and disgusting i stopped playing that.
@@nikakentchuashvili5864 it began taking 5 seconds IRL for a minute to pass in game in 1947 on my WC
@@nikakentchuashvili5864 When I played into the late game for some achievement I would draw up a battle plan and just leave it running as I did other stuff, like watching a movie, making dinner, having a smoke. Checking back in now and then, things never changed much between check-ins
Some of the achievements make me cry. I have a decent PC but late game just lag and use a nuke to gain a square.
That last stage attrition hellhole because the ai didn't build shit
you can see how his soul is progressively leaving his body the longer the game goes on
@adenosine2electricboogaloo647Me
Average game past 45
Just throwing an idea out there. Do a suffering stream trying to beat the zomies in the mod of the zombie invasion
N then make a video about that to!
I don’t want him to die! You people are ruthless!
I want you to know I felt that rant about not being able to get supply through naval zones in my soul. Exact same thing happened in my most recent game when a handful of subs still managed to absolutely ruin my supply route across the black sea even though I had my entire destroyer escort fleet out hunting them.
The disaster save serie is already my favorite of yours.
Try Restarting/ Reloading. It refreshes supply and removes "local supply bases" on encircled tiles as well. sometimes triggers the War support bug though
Was just watching the Romania video, went to make some tea and this was here!!
What flavour is this Tea
@@FreaKCSGOHacker Yorkshire Tea!
@@ancaoraathasach My favourite! Easily the best blend I've ever had
@@raoulsandhu1415 Generally prefer the Irish stuff. Lyons Gold Blend is my favourite but Yorkshire Tea is a decent substitute as it's Assam-based as well.
@@ancaoraathasach I shall see if I can find that and give it a try!
Having just done this achievement the other day I can honestly say I felt your pain at the end of that video. Throwing what little manpower you have at Germany until eventually it falls over and dies. Needless to say though great video!
I used to neglect towed AA until I got severally punished for it.
A small number of factories can supply a lot of support AA.
The problem with annexing a puppets navy is they don't tend to have good module's, your escort Destroyer's need 2 Torpedoes, Sonar and 1 Depth charge but the AI doesn't make good ship's.
They're good for chaff...or as another source of manpower. Disbanding crappy AI ships gives you back a little manpower
1945 and we’re right back to the Spanish Civil War 😂
I love watching all these disaster saves and watching Bitt3r be like "Eh maybe I'm a little wrong about light tanks, now lets milk them to finish this save and forget about this knowledge 'til the next video." xD love the saves and other vids too!
Wow i guess 100+ ships just get outplayed by a underwater bathtub with a snorkle
Lol love your work mate, few times I can hear your frustration and misery and laughter at the AI another awesome video thanks
I love these disaster save videos! I wish more channels would do them as well!
"Once Steiner's collaboration government finishes-"
I love the name of the faction you're the leader of in this disaster save.
It is my first vid of Disaster Saved. I gotta say - not that I don't like your guides, no, I love them, but vids like these also very veeeeeeeery nice to watch.
Hope the situation is better there in Belgium
There will be a lot of rebuilding, and manyblost their lives or homes...but the weather is back to normal
1:00 "Not entertaining, I apologize" - this grind and frustration is exactly what we all expect when we play this came, bud, it's educative when we see how you deal w it, honestly :)
looks like the naval supply is coming from Athens to Italy, so even though you controlled the Adriatic they are still getting raided in the Mediterranean
1:05:20 encirclement inside an encirclement
Great job! I'm so excited! imho u're the best serious hoi4 chanel
I think the issue with supply in Italy is cause by blocking off the sea zone after it has supply through that zone. I've had similar issues in different situations, when there's a perfectly good route but they just don't use it properly and setting the zone to yellow usually fixes it.
Some of those encirclements were just *chef's kiss*
I really enjoyed this thanks - it is especially good to watch a video where things don't go to plan. So many videos show perfect play which is demoralising to a player where things go wrong all the time. A supply idea - I wonder whether you could have broken through Trieste-Venice to get more supply by land. Hard to see on the video but looked like the ITIs had pulled troops out of there or there were even empty tiles. Any way look forward to the next one. MMM
Austria-Hungary no manpower is just regular Austria-Hungary tbh.
Love these disaster save videos!
“Everything is coming up Milhouse!”
Also me after surviving 20 years of ww2 as Germany in Titans clash
500million deaths
Did you see Feedback Gaming's Light Cruiser video? I feel like that might be a hilarious way to take back the Mediterranean in this scenario
About 42 minutes in and you can here him quote my games "I don't know why this isn't working, I have everything I need" haha
I am learning a lot. I tend to never strategically retreat for a better defensive position, and I have an over reliance on massed infantry. I usually win all of my campaigns against the AI, but it tends to take me well past 1945 and I rely on completely overwhelming them with sheer numbers.
At least 100 planes is nice, its round number and makes it easy to manage, i prefer wings of 200 but never in anything other then an incriment of 50 (with a minimum of 100 of course unless scraping literal bottom of barrel somehow)
39:29
Mussolini explaining to Hitler how he has Miditterian under control
I have over 1600 hours in Hearts of Iron IV, and I didn't even know there was a consolidate button...
Same !
600 hours didn't know about air wing size
Love that series!
17:48
I think its the Inn river
I've had the same problems in Italy several times. I didn't blame it on supply, I think it may be due to Italians having a bonus on core territory due to high war support. I also usuallly solve it with more naval invasions. In addition, I love using 20 width light tank divisions. Can even function without logistics companies. Not as much punch as mediums ofc. Interesting to watch these saves because you touch on so many subjects and often made mistakes. I wish I had my old disaster save that was unsavable I think.... Maybe I'll try to recreate it
Alternative to radar... Naval bombers and the like, TACs set to naval attack.
Around 19:30 when you left a single tank in Sofia. You made a Frontline with just that tank. Wouldn't it be better to just Ctrl+H it to unassign it from orders? That way it won't leave when the Frontline stretches, and other tanks won't automatically assign to that "Frontline" after closing an encirclement?
You may have saved the game, but at what cost I wonder? Imagine a world where a Lithuanian-Polish rises out of WWII. What does that future look like? Scary.
40:30: You dont have any naval bases there, just dockyards ;)
You know, I wander if its feasible to have a mixed tank program
Have some good mediums to make the initial breakthrough, exposing empty tiles, use infantry to do pinning attacks so they don't quickly get reinforced, then rush light tanks through the empty tiles to disorganize their front.
Hungary forms Austria Hungary, Austria Hungary forms the HRE, the HRE reforms the Roman empire. Thus, Hungary should be able to form Rome
hungary came from some tribes between volga and the urals, therefore russia is third rome
Hungarian Raj.... that's something interesting. ;D
this looks exactly like one of my austria hungary games
I sort wanted to hear the rant that got cut out. Fun to watch though!
idk man, looks like every hungary game ever
Great vid
The other half of the video is just pure anxiety
I think why you couldn’t get supplies to italy is because you didnt do convoy escorts
I don't really think that messing up supply routes in mediterranean is wise. Some in the comments would argue that the game might bugged and try restarting/reloading may solve... The thing is that when ignoring Tyrrhenian sea and supplying through Adriatic sea ONLY will make AI discover that there's no convoys in other region and then pour everything to Adriatic sea, then the chaos. Convoys are pretty much expendible when you HAVE a plan to naval invade AI since they will lure the enemy navy away. Yes convoys may only head to the largest port, but that just leave AI triple the regions to raid.
Your army is much more valuable than some convoys. And don't mess with the supply routes when you trying to naval invade, it will cost your armies' lives instead.
But great video anyway! :D
That one is overstretched mess.
Kinda like Austria Hungary.
This video pleases me, that is all.
Planes in italy did not work because they had no supply. And your convoy escort was so bad. It would have been better to take your entire navy split it in 8 and make all 8 convoy escort. Also you should have use cas for naval strike in adriatic sea and you should not have closed the rome sea region
Hi! I have some interesting ones, and would like to know if you will take ironman saves or not.
absolutely
No manpower is la pain
DUDE THIS LOOKS LIKE MY LAST 50 GAMES
'oh my god look at spain'
you shouldve seen the time i played non historical, UK declared war on spain and split it into 4 different spains
step 5: casually roll into bulgaria
41:12
i guess most of your navy ist docked somewhere elseand not strike forcing in the adriatik sea
breach the north lines and get the supply up there
I think the player did this to himself, the player with the axis defeated the early allies so now Germany is super powerful has a big navy no problems at all, a bad idea in general, he just needed to stop the game there and start doing a good line of defense, take out Italy and then enjoy driving around Germany with some tanks or 40 with infantry.
I have questions : Can we submit saves from mods ? & Can we send intentional disaster saves (like a custom challenge) ?
I'd prefer genuine, vanilla ones. They allow me to teach people what some mistakes are and how to prevent or fix them. But feel free to send them in
Could you use multiple full back lines?
My maaaan!
Just a comment for the algorithm so we don't lose that battle either.
of course italy took the scottish highlands
Do you do disaster saves for mods?
THEN THE WINGED HUSSARS ARRIVED,
COMING DOWN THE MOUNTAIN SIDE,
THEN THE WINGED HUSSARS ARRIVED,
COMING DOWN THEY TURNED THE TIDE
A little late now, but the stock rn is quite capable of killing subs. The E/F/G/H class destroyers have sonar and depth charges, and the A/B/C/D class do as well, but are tier 1. Which is fine for subs. Put these on convoy escort with an admiral that has good defense. Also, the Italian AI NEVER EVER builds capital ships. Ever. In 2700 hours of playing I've never seen them build anything bigger than light cruisers. Naval supremecy shouldn't be any issue whatsoever with stock RN. Against Germany and Italy..
i like how you made a colab gov. with Italy but not with Germany witch is a much bigger country.
Because Italy can be stupid to invade, if they fortify Sicily
@@Bitt3rSteel i feel that and also thank you for explaining the supply problem over sea tiles a bit better. me and my friend played an Axis game when we went to invade the US we couldn't get any supply even with well over 300 ships in almost every tile form Germany to the US. Also thank you for the Lithuania guide super helpful super fun i make those motorized division all the time works great with any country that can make them.
I had a austria hungary game that was going super great until Germany decided to mash its face into the maginot and not capitulated the french before attacking russia. Ok though I don't mind a challenge. I'm killing it in Russia. Then U.S. joins and ONE MONTH LATER italy declairs on Greece. 95% of my army is in the Urals NOT on my border with Greece.
What are your thoughts on choosing the doctrine for a tank build? I thought that right-right mobile warfare is the meta for tonks in the current patch.
Ah yes, the Soviet Republics of the British Highlands and Wales. _Very_ historical. 😂
Try doing Germany vs Greece but with Greece having no Allies
You really should edit your video sound with de-essing, this is a technique to reduce the excessive prominence of sibilant consonants, such as the sounds normally represented in English by "s", "z", "ch", "j" and "sh".
I was thinking the same things - I love these videos but they're close to being unbearable to watch with headphones
Good to get some feedback! I'll look into it for the next video! I'm not much of an audio expert
@@Bitt3rSteel
It's great that you are willing to do that. Thank you.
@@Bitt3rSteel Keep up the good work, Bitt3rsteel! Groetjes van je noorderburen.
Can we purposely make our game a disaster and make you suffer? UwU
Bittersteel my man! Is there a reason you dont assign fighters to both air superiority and interception?
Not 100%, but I think its not efficient to give fters both orders. In combat you need 'green air' from fters on air superiority. If you are just defending against bombers, you can save fuel and air accidents by going interception ?
Wait how did you get Canadian provinces?
Air Supply. It's not just a shitty band.
How did Austria get the Royal Navy ?
I'm assuming he puppets the UK, annexed them and and the released them again to avoid having to deal with the extra territory
Peru is fascist from the start, it doesn’t turn fascist.
What does initiative do??
Noob question: how do you get manpower? I always choke on that aspect of the game
you get manpower just from territory alone. there is a difference between core territory and occupied territory core means that you own/entitled to it and you get more manpower in that area 100% resources and etc. occupied gives a lot less in everything
Increase conscription, capture land, make your templates smaller or disband unneeded troops
Hi, i know I'm a bit late for the answer. You can also get some manpower by making a colonial template if you have a puppet. These colonial template use your puppet's manpower to some extent depending on how far from independance they are. Be careful though, i think it gives them autonomy points through war-participation.
All u had to do was push the front in northern italy, cut off the NE army and boom. Supply Route -.-
You did not check the occupation law. Occupation law can easily consume millions of men if you do harsh occupation you could also have asked india or uk for garrison support
why 100 size air instead of 200? 200 fits air bases better, so that's what I've been defaulting to. Does 100 perform better than 200?
Mathematically, 50 performs best, as it's the samllest functional air wing, making them perform the most amount of attacks.
But 100 is easier for maths
@@Bitt3rSteel Do you recommend attaching air wings to armies so the AI can auto-manage moving them and assigning them combat regions?
"I just love medium tanks"
Dankus disagrees
How is your Cutter?
We just not gonna talk about how his faction name is OwO what's this?
Imagine playing vanilla
Subs are destroyed by navs and cas, not dd's.
This was sent by.. some kid.
Ouch
Finally
I don't think this will go well
Holy shit on the 5 min ads ads ads and more ads! No for me!!!!
I totally disagree with you, cause I played chekoslovakia already on hard and if you want to defeat the German mar machinery you can do lighting strikes with like 3 tanks to cut Germany in a half so the Italian and Hungarians have to supplie dozens of German troops, so you can take Bavaria, Baden Württemberg and nearly every Austrian territory without a big fight, after that regenerate and than do 1 huge push to Berlin, from Berlin to Hamburg and than push to Frankfurt, this works with every nation, for the French, free Belgium and push to Frankfurt, regenerate, free the Netherlands and give up Frankfurt if there is a huge preasure from the germans, instead push from Belgium to the Rhineland, regenerate and than push to Wilhelmshaven, try to encircle germans through a push for the Rhineland and than attack about the river and push to Munich, after that the entire German front will collapse, that would be much harder, without the fast regeneration from blitz
Virguero 77 diciendo no puedo comerlo mi amor
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