I would like a Rolex but the high price makes Tudor attractive but then Tudor I hear now is just snubbed upon. Ugh… and I always wanted a Panerai and now those are supposed to be garbage
I wish all these peanuts buying watches to make a profit off them would just FO and leave so those of us who actually want the watch, can get one for what they are actually worth.
This is what happens when “collectors” use watches as investments. I’ve been collecting for over 40 years and only buy watches that I love. I “invest” in stocks and real estate.
Does Watch Charts consider ask prices or actual transactions? I think only the latter provides useful info. Even then, the price of a deal between two shady individuals is naturally lower than that in a B2C transaction. Dealer to dealer is again different, etc. There are a lot of factors to consider when providing „market“ data.
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@@JohnG-gu5wo Yes it is absolutely 2x retail on the grey market.at the moment very few of them coming into circulation. Show me a reputable dealer selling a new Pepsi for less than 20K. You can't
Well not really. They dont ‘increase in value’ at all. The new model price will peak initially by speculation and will slowly decline and the hype fades for most. Watches and newer models are always coming out. Prices dont rise per se. A hype price will be set at first and its downhill after that for 99.99% of watches
@@BobbyDazzler888 we are talking though about those hardest to obtain. The 0.01% of watches sold. Yes, many do peak because of initial hype and slowly decline, but don’t decline below retail. Look at the long term - something watch charts don’t do as they are obsessed with this period post the 2022 Covid madness. A 16710 GMT was released in 1986 for $1,625 ($4,500 if you want to put that in today’s money with inflation). That same watch would be over $10k used. If it was unused condition probably double that. And we’re talking here about a mass produced model, made in only 3 variations over a good 20 year span. If you obtain a OP Celebration dial today, a super hard watch to get with a 2 year run, it will be worth tens of thousands in the future.
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The fact that white gold sub is the same price as a titanium yachtmaster says it all about hype…
For under 5K purchase the Pelagos 39 over the Ti Yachtmaster…
Anything above msrp
Is hype
@@racebannon2332buying Tudor is still playing the Rolex game.
@@BobbyDazzler888 I have no problem purchasing Rolex or Tudor from my AD at retail. Tudor I can usually get below retail…it’s a game I enjoy playing
I would like a Rolex but the high price makes Tudor attractive but then Tudor I hear now is just snubbed upon. Ugh… and I always wanted a Panerai and now those are supposed to be garbage
I wish all these peanuts buying watches to make a profit off them would just FO and leave so those of us who actually want the watch, can get one for what they are actually worth.
Lol…keep dreaming
I’ll wait for the AD CALL
Smart but I just got mine grey! Done and done
@@sstanforddptDid you pay over retail price? Did you buy it brand new or used?
I got my rolex and I'm done, these numbers don't affect me, it's entertaining to see people freak out about numbers and watches as investments lol.
This is what happens when “collectors” use watches as investments. I’ve been collecting for over 40 years and only buy watches that I love. I “invest” in stocks and real estate.
@@DWilliam1 there you go an enlightened free human being not enslaved by scarcity marketing.
Steeldive watches is the more relaxed option.
Does Watch Charts consider ask prices or actual transactions? I think only the latter provides useful info. Even then, the price of a deal between two shady individuals is naturally lower than that in a B2C transaction. Dealer to dealer is again different, etc. There are a lot of factors to consider when providing „market“ data.
There is not value retention if youre paying more then what a manufacturer recommends
Great review! Thank you. I've successfully utilized your site in my searches and purchases.
Surprised the Pepsi GMT is not on this list. Those have shot up in price (over 2x retail) and super hard to find
We recommend watching another one of our recent videos on the Pepsi GMT: Rolex Pepsi NOT discontinued. How has the market responded?
ruclips.net/video/78CU-qbmK0M/видео.html
The Pepsi is not 2x retail .
@@JohnG-gu5wo Yes it is absolutely 2x retail on the grey market.at the moment very few of them coming into circulation. Show me a reputable dealer selling a new Pepsi for less than 20K. You can't
@@nymma3357 you are being ripped off .
This topic is for folks that like money more than watches
So the hardest to obtain watches are the ones that increase most in value on the secondary market? Who would have thought!?!?
Well not really. They dont ‘increase in value’ at all. The new model price will peak initially by speculation and will slowly decline and the hype fades for most. Watches and newer models are always coming out. Prices dont rise per se. A hype price will be set at first and its downhill after that for 99.99% of watches
@@BobbyDazzler888 we are talking though about those hardest to obtain. The 0.01% of watches sold. Yes, many do peak because of initial hype and slowly decline, but don’t
decline below retail. Look at the long term - something watch charts don’t do as they are obsessed with this period post the 2022 Covid madness. A 16710 GMT was released in 1986 for $1,625 ($4,500 if you want to put that in today’s money with inflation). That same watch would be over $10k used. If it was unused condition probably double that. And we’re talking here about a mass produced model, made in only 3 variations over a good 20 year span. If you obtain a OP Celebration dial today, a super hard watch to get with a 2 year run, it will be worth tens of thousands in the future.
Patience. With Rolex owning Bucherer, it will be easier to get the Rolex we want..😊 Don't have to play the AD game.
This is a good indication how rediculous rolex pricing structure is.😂
Where can you get a OP 41mm Tiffany Blue for $17,900??!!!
By shopping around and actually talking to sellers
Show me one example. If not stfu
Laughing at people who bought watches over retail. Fools.
Laughing at those who can't afford a grey watch
@@sstanforddpt You just admitted to being a fool. Your comment proved that as well.
TWMID UBT damn flim flammers 💩
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The muppet boiler room watch market is dead
Don't be a tomato can
Great info well presented. I have a yellow solid gold OP 41 Celebration dial. They are very hard to get.
Solid gold OP41?????
…and will depreciate in value 😂
😂
@@racebannon2332 Nope. It’s a giant.
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