I'd love to see a comparison. I have a Ratio 6 in my home office and love it. I'm looking to replace the coffee maker in the kitchen in the not-so-distant future and am wondering if I should do another 6 or invest in an 8.
Love it and when you say “who is it for?” It’s for me! I love great coffee but also need a quick pot some mornings. This is like having a drip maker but it makes great coffee and looks incredible. Sometimes form over function is ok.
The Ratio 8 is the type of machine that is an "additional" part of your coffee making arsenal. You're most likely going to use this when you don't have time for pourover and want to bang out a quick batch to take with you. That's what I would use it for. I'd grind my coffee the night before, air seal it, and knock out a quick 2 cups in the morning. For me it would be this machine or the Moccamaster if I'm doing automated brewing.
Funny thing about prices. In general, what do I want, need,afford! Took me a few weeks to gather information for a new fridge. Best tip is ,don't wait till the fridge dies. 2nd best tip:::: throw away most of the stuff ,as it's probably outdated by a few years.. New fridge is tiny & most likely won't last 25years. On to the coffee maker. My 18year old DeLonghi DIED & it's no longer available, unless someone bought one and is waiting for me to buy theirs... My next purchase might b the OXO or this bad boy. Thank you💙 , your review is great.💙
Nice review. There is one robot pourover that I have yet to see a review of that I think could maybe give the Ratios a bit of a challenge at a lower price point with added features. The Hamilton Beach Craft coffee maker. Timer, warmer, 5 brew strength settings, water temperature adjustment, glass basket and an integrated scale.
I'll take my Behmor Brazen+ coffee maker over the Ratio 8. It functions like a pour over but with a basket filter. It sprays the coffee grounds so evenly. Stainless steel water tank that drains directly into the carafe. You can set (and easily change) brew temperature, bloom time. It's a bit small if you're making coffee for a crowd, but it's just my husband and me most of the time, and the quality of the coffee it brews is worth it to me. About $200.
I just bought a Brazen after recently getting heavily into light roasts and realizing that, at only 185°F, the BUNN Velocity Brew I was using for the last 9 years was not getting the brew water hot enough to properly extract those light roasts. With the Behmor, I can set the brew water temp all the way up to 210°F for a light roast that would ordinarily be tough to get everything out of with an autodrip machine, and, as you said, the even water distribution allows for good extraction. My favorite brew method is still pourover with V60 or Chemex. But on work mornings when I’m leaving the house at 0430, the Behmor is awesome! And with the thermal carafe, I just make a full pot and my wife has hot coffee ready when she gets up. I really like it!
Thanks for the review! I'd like to hear about the Ratio 6 because I mostly make coffee for myself when I'm at home, so even a half pot will be too much. The most I really need is 10 ounces.
@@DaddyGotCoffee also to answer the question of who is this for? Nerdy coffee people who won't settle that have spouses that want a coffee without the fuss
Yoooo brother, nice video once again!! Although it looks pretty sick, at that price, I still prefer my chemex X Cuisinart programmable kettle to make my pourovers. Just the feel of doing it just seems so right. This machine is a legit piece of art though 👌🏼☕️
Mine broke as others have reviewed. After about 6 months of use, it now just blinks constantly on Bloom and never brews. I think it has something to do with all of the steam moisture that comes out of this thing from every crevice. I think it damages the electronics inside.
Essentially yes, with super premium build and looks. Exactly why I mentioned the six as a lot more competitive of an option when it comes to price from Ratio - it at least comes with a thermal carafe. The bloom phase is nice though, I wish more coffee makers did that. And there aren’t a ton that use conical filters. But, a lot of people will decide it’s not worth the high price. But… enough people do to keep it in production!
Technically I suppose it could but it really not designed to for a couple reasons. The temperature is locked at a higher temperature better suited to coffee than many teas which require a lower temp. Also, it works via percolations where the water flows through the grounds (or tea leaves) rather than steeping. If I had to guess I’d say it would result in a pretty weak and potentially bitter (depending on what tea you were using) pot of tea.
No to the Chemex design. Also, I need there to be a scale. I need to be sure the right mass of water hits the grounds in the dripper, no matter how much is in the reservoir. I don’t want to calculate losses and then guess at what to put in the reservoir for the brew.
Is there any automatic coffee maker that utilizes a scale for measuring net output? I can see how you would be a yay or nay on the Chemex design, but just to play devils advocate on the scale point - how is this any different from a pour over? You have to be really down the rabbit hole on pourover if you are measuring net output separate from water input.
@@DaddyGotCoffee three possible cases… 1) The case where you know the mass in the cup/carafe. 2) The case where you know the mass in the “system” (including the dripper and the cup). 3) The case where you know the mass in the kettle/reservoir. I care about case (2). I’m 60g/L through and through (for percolation brewing).
I’ll have to measure this. It seems like there is next to no water left in the system, although I’m sure there is some. It seems really negligible especially over the large batch. But, as far as automatic percolation brewers go, this is going to be the situation in nearly any case
@@DaddyGotCoffee definitely. Mostly I’m curious about losses (steam) and whether losses are consistent from brew to brew. I used to think about this with my Bona Vita but never measured it.
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No plastic is the biggest selling point! There are no other coffee machines without plastic
Awesome review. Seems like a beautiful machine.
Would love to see the ratio six review.
Would definitely love to see a 6 vs 8 review!
Noted!
I'd love to see a comparison. I have a Ratio 6 in my home office and love it. I'm looking to replace the coffee maker in the kitchen in the not-so-distant future and am wondering if I should do another 6 or invest in an 8.
Love it and when you say “who is it for?” It’s for me! I love great coffee but also need a quick pot some mornings. This is like having a drip maker but it makes great coffee and looks incredible. Sometimes form over function is ok.
I’m with you on this one!!
The Ratio 8 is the type of machine that is an "additional" part of your coffee making arsenal. You're most likely going to use this when you don't have time for pourover and want to bang out a quick batch to take with you. That's what I would use it for. I'd grind my coffee the night before, air seal it, and knock out a quick 2 cups in the morning. For me it would be this machine or the Moccamaster if I'm doing automated brewing.
Funny thing about prices. In general, what do I want, need,afford! Took me a few weeks to gather information for a new fridge. Best tip is ,don't wait till the fridge dies. 2nd best tip:::: throw away most of the stuff ,as it's probably outdated by a few years.. New fridge is tiny & most likely won't last 25years. On to the coffee maker. My 18year old DeLonghi DIED & it's no longer available, unless someone bought one and is waiting for me to buy theirs... My next purchase might b the OXO or this bad boy. Thank you💙 , your review is great.💙
Great thoughts! Thank you so much!!
@@DaddyGotCoffee 👌
Nice review. There is one robot pourover that I have yet to see a review of that I think could maybe give the Ratios a bit of a challenge at a lower price point with added features. The Hamilton Beach Craft coffee maker. Timer, warmer, 5 brew strength settings, water temperature adjustment, glass basket and an integrated scale.
I'll take my Behmor Brazen+ coffee maker over the Ratio 8. It functions like a pour over but with a basket filter. It sprays the coffee grounds so evenly. Stainless steel water tank that drains directly into the carafe. You can set (and easily change) brew temperature, bloom time. It's a bit small if you're making coffee for a crowd, but it's just my husband and me most of the time, and the quality of the coffee it brews is worth it to me. About $200.
The brazen is a seriously underrated coffee maker - I agree! Great!
I just bought a Brazen after recently getting heavily into light roasts and realizing that, at only 185°F, the BUNN Velocity Brew I was using for the last 9 years was not getting the brew water hot enough to properly extract those light roasts.
With the Behmor, I can set the brew water temp all the way up to 210°F for a light roast that would ordinarily be tough to get everything out of with an autodrip machine, and, as you said, the even water distribution allows for good extraction.
My favorite brew method is still pourover with V60 or Chemex. But on work mornings when I’m leaving the house at 0430, the Behmor is awesome! And with the thermal carafe, I just make a full pot and my wife has hot coffee ready when she gets up.
I really like it!
Does this coffee maker give the coffee a true bold flavor like pour over coffee?
i like the style and presentation of your videos. keep it up.
thank you!!
Yeah looks amazing but if I'm going to make a lot of coffee I want it to be able to stay warm for a long period of time. Looks badass
Yeah that thermal set really edges you into that crazy upper price tier! Any time I’ve done a really big batch in this I’ve used the thermal carafe
Damn you're a good salesman. Video bgm might've been a tad loud, but even so you've got me itching to get my credit card out!
That’s the thing with this machine - it’s really expensive but it makes you WANT it. Crazy build!
Thanks for the review! I'd like to hear about the Ratio 6 because I mostly make coffee for myself when I'm at home, so even a half pot will be too much. The most I really need is 10 ounces.
Love my ratio 6 and it comes with a thermal carafe which is a plus. Still looks great too!
I’d love to review a Six!! Agreed, great machines!
@@DaddyGotCoffee also to answer the question of who is this for? Nerdy coffee people who won't settle that have spouses that want a coffee without the fuss
@@callums91 hahahaha YUP! Absolute true story. The ratio is literally the only coffee maker in the house that Sarah can/will use!
Absolutely Phenominal review. Thank you dad
Very welcome!
Yoooo brother, nice video once again!! Although it looks pretty sick, at that price, I still prefer my chemex X Cuisinart programmable kettle to make my pourovers. Just the feel of doing it just seems so right. This machine is a legit piece of art though 👌🏼☕️
Yup that about nails it!
Mine broke as others have reviewed. After about 6 months of use, it now just blinks constantly on Bloom and never brews. I think it has something to do with all of the steam moisture that comes out of this thing from every crevice. I think it damages the electronics inside.
Is the water tank plastic free?
So it’s essentially a $550 drip coffeemaker without the requisite warming plate.
Essentially yes, with super premium build and looks. Exactly why I mentioned the six as a lot more competitive of an option when it comes to price from Ratio - it at least comes with a thermal carafe. The bloom phase is nice though, I wish more coffee makers did that. And there aren’t a ton that use conical filters. But, a lot of people will decide it’s not worth the high price. But… enough people do to keep it in production!
Can this be used to make tea as well?
Technically I suppose it could but it really not designed to for a couple reasons. The temperature is locked at a higher temperature better suited to coffee than many teas which require a lower temp. Also, it works via percolations where the water flows through the grounds (or tea leaves) rather than steeping. If I had to guess I’d say it would result in a pretty weak and potentially bitter (depending on what tea you were using) pot of tea.
Yes, please compare the two
I’ll add this to the list!
What is the grinder?
The water and grounds not touching plastic is a must for me. It appears the water reservoir is plastic.
The water reservoir is glass
If there was a machine similar in design with an app to customize and tweak the brew settings to control bloom length, etc.
Maybe check out the Hiroia Hikaru
Maybe compare the Ratio to the Chemex Ottomatic 2.0?
Great idea! I should get my hands on one!
Seattle coffee does comparison of these 2
Dammmm its more then i paided for my lagato...... i have a great pour over setup with out 700$. Wow😮 my pour over setup cost only 80$ give or take
can't understand why you would ruin a brewer with all the negatives of a chemex that people buying drip brewers are looking to avoid
No to the Chemex design. Also, I need there to be a scale. I need to be sure the right mass of water hits the grounds in the dripper, no matter how much is in the reservoir. I don’t want to calculate losses and then guess at what to put in the reservoir for the brew.
Is there any automatic coffee maker that utilizes a scale for measuring net output? I can see how you would be a yay or nay on the Chemex design, but just to play devils advocate on the scale point - how is this any different from a pour over? You have to be really down the rabbit hole on pourover if you are measuring net output separate from water input.
@@DaddyGotCoffee three possible cases… 1) The case where you know the mass in the cup/carafe. 2) The case where you know the mass in the “system” (including the dripper and the cup). 3) The case where you know the mass in the kettle/reservoir. I care about case (2). I’m 60g/L through and through (for percolation brewing).
I’ll have to measure this. It seems like there is next to no water left in the system, although I’m sure there is some. It seems really negligible especially over the large batch. But, as far as automatic percolation brewers go, this is going to be the situation in nearly any case
@@DaddyGotCoffee definitely. Mostly I’m curious about losses (steam) and whether losses are consistent from brew to brew. I used to think about this with my Bona Vita but never measured it.
02:11 that's a sad looking murky water
Tasted great 👀☕️
I don’t think that’s what blooming does
I stand corrected, it is one part of it - the other part being that a saturated bed of grounds leads to better and more even extraction
For sure, I really simplified this here for the sake of brevity.
Beautiful but overpriced...
mine broke in less than a year. NOT worth the money
you are not a daddy
I am in the literal sense, which is the only way I’m concerned about 😄
Look so cheap :( sorry just me😅