How can they blame "Star Wars fatigue" for their mistakes?
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I have a serious case of Disney fatigue, not SW fatigue.
Say it louder for the people in the back!
Kate M. Yet the theme parks and the live action remakes are still making big profits.
Iron Fox what live action remakes?
tyson mccorkle I think he's referring to movies such as the lion king and Aladdin. Not really relevant to Star Wars tho.
It's one in the same now....
They cannot live with their own failure. Where does that bring them? Back to blaming us.
eh
They thought that by alienating half the SW fanbase, the other half would be satisfactory (financial-wise), but we have shown them... that's impossible.
Let’s hate them properly this time
They're the ones with the rights and money, so they're the ones making the rules. It's obviously our fault...
SW fatigue, what a load of Space Dwang.
That's the perfect excuse for a studio that fails to make a good movie, because we're toxic, not because they did a horrible movie
Star Wars fatigue?
Disney has exhausted their last tired excuses.
@ Rico3269
The fatigue is simply the lack of a good story plot and plan
@@michaelmassey7213 Hopefully whatever pause they may take would allow Disney to elaborate a plan for Star wars' future.
@Lionard Kirsch They`ll be running out of jobs. ;-D
@Lionard Kirsch They'll say Star Wars fans are manbabies and they just can't handle that Rey is the most powerful thing in the universe since God and don't ask so many questions ... Bigot.
They'd say anything that keeps their investors supporting them
Exactly!
that's a good point.
Like any Marxists, anything is fair game. Absolutely anything. These people have no shame, principles or any sense of real morality.
its a business. Why would they say something bad about themself? Remember. The economy is going great, Amerika is going great. Tarifs are great. Wall is great....see a pattern here? Lies rule the world. Also Disney
@Andreas Jeitner of course a business doesn't want to speak badly of itself, but they basically blamed their customers again.
FANS: Disney, you were the chosen one! You were supposed to bring about the sequels, not destroy them!
DISNEY: I HATE YOU
@Lord Kuuga I invite anyone interested to keep going. There is a gold mine of material here.
It is not a story Disney would tell you...
I loved the new films.
Duck Fisney.
Fans: You were our childhood, Disney! We loved you!
I don't like the Disney Wars trilogy. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it won't get anywhere.
I don’t have Star Wars fatigue, I love Star Wars. I do have Rian Johnson fatigue.
Yap, and Kathleen Kennedy fatigue too
Johnson has a big mouth and needs to understand the sound of silence.
I was totally willing to blow off The Last Jedi. Okay. After 40 years they made one bad movie. They're human. I'll let it go. Then Rion had to start running his mouth and attacking the fans. It's the exact same reason why they're afraid to make another Captain Marvel movie. It's obvious that they're doing damage control at this point.
I don't. Knifes Out looks like it'll be a load of fun.
I try not to grade Directors for the bad installments in a franchise they aren't a constant part of. He's done Looper which was a cool movie, and has potential to be great with original content.
M. Night's worst? movie is Last Airbender, but when handling original content he's not terrible. Some may say mediocre, but his ideas are interesting even if not always executed well.
Because they're lazy and can't accept responsibility for their actions.
EXACTLY!!!!!
ItsRyanYT AMEN TO THAT
Yeah
I just have to say HOLY CRAP MAN.
My wife and I went to Epcot at Disney World this weekend for the Wine and Food festival with my aunt and uncle. We're all Annual Pass holders, so decided to park hop over to Hollywood Studios and check out Galaxy's Edge.
The whole area looks like crap, the selection of food and drinks were abysmal, and the Millennium Falcon ride was hot garbage. I'm actually astonished that after all the time it took to envision, design and build, from a company that just has ALL the money that THAT is what they came up with.
If it wasn't so bad, and so expensive for non-Florida residents, I'd almost feel sorry for Disney. As it stands though, they have no one to blame but themselves. The company has gotten to corporate, both Disney and Apple are basically in the same boat. With all the Expanded Universe of Star Wars, and the deep well of un-copyrighted mythology of stuff like Grimm's Fairy Tales, what does Disney do? Shit re-hashes of the original trilogy of SW, and live action re-makes of all of their classic cartoons.
Imagineering my ass.
@@mattrismatt Yeah put your faith in movie 9 fixing everything after 2 shitty movies that have no outline nor a cohesive story tying them together.
@@mattrismatt Wtf are you for real? Have you SEEN movies 7 and 8? They can't even stay internally consistent.
@@mattrismatt everything those movies suck, make no sense and are the biggest examples of lazy writing ever to be on the big screen.
@@mattrismatt full of mystery and intrigue? JJ remade a new hope, and anything good and mysterious about that film Rian made absolutely useless. I have the right perspective, its one from a starwars fan. It's not their movie and story to do what ever they want with, it's a sequel trilogy.
why did the the rebels lose control after the return of the jedi? -unexplained, lazy writing
who is snoke? unexplained, lazy writing.
why did Luke become a hermit and abandon everything he stood for? horribly explained bad writing.
why does Poe and Daisy go to find a code breaker taking up half the last jedi? pointless, bad writing with a side of lazy writing. it's all bad. I hope i am wrong but the best parts of this trilogy so far i liked a lot better in a new hope.
mattris matt What you’re saying is bullshit. I have to do homework to understand the “genius” of Disney, Kathleen Kennedy, and Ryan Johnson? I don’t think so! I have learned that if it takes an essay to explain your point, you don’t know what you’re talking about. The bottle line is these movies suck! No one cares about the characters or the story line. Have you noticed no one wants the action figures. Hell, they just pulled the Rose Tiko action figure out of production because no one want her. Just like no one want this new movie. I’m boycotting this movie and so is every Star Wars fan I know. Disney served us poo on a plate, and called it gourmet food. Now it’s time for Disney to take a big bite of what they’ve been serving us. Enjoy your meal. I look forward to seeing you clean your plate.
Star Wars fatigue?...Disney will never get it. Is it really that hard to make quality Star Wars?..really???
It's so easy even a George can do it.
James Huffman I don’t about that bud
Deadpool007 i dont about that either
No it's not hard to make a quality Star Wars. Look at what Dave Filoni did
@@Deadpool-yn9mg
Star Wars Ep 1-6 and Rogue One are perfect.
Not because all these movies don't have faults but because they're Star Wars.
I was actually sad waiting in line at End Game for a minute. The fans talking, the anticipation, the overall atmosphere was GREAT. And then it dawned on me. This is what Star Wars USED to be like. Disney for many Star Wars fans THAT is your legacy.
Exactly.
Yeah I remember when I went to see Revenge Of The Sith. Everybody were so hype and excited too see it.
I pre-ordered tickets to End Game and watched it at the midnight showing the night before release, and the theater was packed.
Remember when everyone got tired of Marvel movies and didn't go see Endgame?
Oh, wait...
That's different...
Endgame had 10 years + a film before it for people to get invested in.
The Sequel trilogy gave us A mediocre film, a bad film and now, we have nothing to look at for next film.
They are becoming so desperate that J.J is apparently making time travel a thing (Which doesn't solve any plot anymore, it's just an ex macina for film directors/producers to fix something).
@Dottoman Why would you think they don't have a big payoff planned again in ten years?
@@EsseroEson The question is, will everyone be willing to invest another 10 years or are they ready for a break or something else?
All fads eventually fade and something new comes along.
@Dottoman I'm not interested in the MCU anymore simply because it's never going to be as good as Endgame was.
@@goldfishprime Yeah, I remember when people stopped watching the Simpsons...Oh wait.
Lame excuse Disney. If you were producing quality Star Wars films once a year, people would be talking about SW constantly. They’d be awaiting each installment with great enthusiasm.
Instead you have bitterly divided the fanbase and the only reason a lot of people are still talking about Star Wars is for all the wrong reasons. People don’t become fatigued by stories they love. They’ll happily revisit a beloved setting again and again.
Yea as long as they followed the direction YOU wanted. Pathetic
@Brian Reed Yeah it’s real pathetic to ask someone to build upon the foundations of a cherished story and respect beloved characters instead of shitting on them to promote a political agenda. That’s pathetic. Just like your comment.
Brian Reed Do you really think TFA and TLJ are good movies. TFA was a poor rip off of a New Hope. They are the exact same story only with a female lead. TLJ was a titanic disaster. They destroyed a beloved Luke Skywalker. Made Princess Laya a Mary Poppins. Created a Mary Sue. Had a trip to nowhere. Destroyed Rose Tikins as an actress. I question if she will ever work again. No one cares about the story line or characters. This is your idea of a good movie?
@@smhollanshead - wow those are all your opinions and not near as big a deal as you make them out to be. Sure there are minor issues but the OT also has minor issues. You're just pissed because of what they did with Luke. And no TFA is not EXACTLY like ANH. Yes there are similarities but nothing like the poor ripoff you claim. TLJ was actually better than TFA. Cool lightsaber fight scene, Holdo jumping to light speed and cutting Snoke's ship in 2 was cool, Kylo manipulating his mind to kill Snoke. So basically you're stating your opinion as fact and can't believe anyone has a different opinion or an open mind for that matter. You're just butthurt about Luke and then the movies have no chance to be good beyond that. You're like many others, acting like a child who didn't get his way and you're going to pout about it on social media and youtube, lmao. Grow up lil boy
Brian Reed while no one asked me, I would have told Kathleen Kennedy that no one wants Hans Solo’s back story. Especially the Back story Kathleen Kennedy provided. It was like watching a check list of items from the first two Star Wars movies. What people want to see is a Darth Vader movie. Perhaps the time period between the prequels and a New Hope. Now that would be cool! The problem is it deals with a strong, successful, masculine figure. Kathleen Kennedy would never go for that. She is more than willing to sacrifice artistic quality for her political agenda. Remember the force is female.
What's the use of constructive criticism when it consistently falls on deft ears?
Sean deaf*
Or daft
I haven't seen any contstructive criticism. I have seen a lot of whining about Disney not doing what they wanted them to do. That's not near constructive. Being pissed about what happened to Luke and then flopping on a chair, crossing your arms lie a child and saying "i hate what they did with Luke, these movies suck" isn't mature or constructive at all. And all the lack of character development all came after the Luke complaints because you were all called out on not having a valid complaint. It's all manufactured bullshit to support your agenda
@@brianreed1859 aww its an idiot. no theres been plenty of constructive criticism. but they that so highly of their work bcse it was about sending messages then telling a story, that it caused them to gravitate towards hateful and troll comments.
oh amd just greed and laziness.
@@Tholen3 - but they that so highly? And you call me an idiot? LMFAO. No constructive criticism. All whining and crying that the movies didn't go their way. Fact
The people at Disney should have listened to Uncle Ben’s advice, if they had maybe they could have avoided most of this nonsense.
Obi-Wan Kenobi? I wonder if she means old Obi-Wan Kenobi.
With the way things have gotten between Disney and Sony, Disney probably shot Uncle Ben.
I dunno. They seem hell bent on not referencing Ben in the Spiderman films.
Takes guts to admit one owns fault; Takes a slimeball to blame everyone other than himself.
I love Star Wars. But I DENY the existence of everything that Disney made ever since.
If you need me, I’ll be playing Jedi Outcast on the Switch tonight.
I’ll watch return of the Jedi
EDIT: Disregard, wrong Star Wars video game
Was just playing Kotor:)
Kyle Katarn is one bad mutha. He needs to be canon
@@DustinMTaylor he is where it truly counts, not in the Ma Rey Su verse, thankfully!
Not SW fatigue. DISNEY fatigue.
@ClandestineOstrich Ah, here we go again, blaming ''SJWs''. The number-one scapegoat for almost everything, ideally used by people incapable of arguing rationally.
@@InfiniteDeckhand honestly. I swear that word means nothing. If you dont go along with a certain ideal path then you get SJW branded on you like cattle. The only major "Sjw" thing in star wars is Rey being overpowered
@@foxt.5043
Hate to disagree. But SJWs are kinda known with the idea that Disney attacks the fans with, namely " Fans or people who have a problem with Rey hate strong female characters." They really bought into that idea and won't listen to fans how nonsensical Rey's rapid progression from nothing to the ridiculuously overpowered protagonist. Talk about a complete ass pull just to present the propaganda they like to promote, it's like they completely forgot to write the story properly and exchanged that with the idea that Rey must seem like she's more than capable of beating everyone in the SW universe regardless of how powerful they must be and how long they have trained while she herself wasn't even trained by a fraction of how much Kylo did.
And the thing is, this kind of thing didn't just happen with SW. But they also did so with Kick-ass' comic series, Witcher Netflix series, and many others. First few incidents like these would seem like a coincidence, but it's happening to almost everything nowadays, and this is not acceptable. To sacrifice the quality of stories just to show or represent a political movement is just wrong, they should make their own fictional tales and not tamper with things that already exist.
I don't know how to convince you, but this nonsensical compromise of story in favor of socio political agendas is getting annoyingly irritating. Why would fans actually want to watch crap like this? We wanted real SW not this socio political crap some people just want to feed people with.
I love Star Wars, and I honestly believe that I will never get "Star Wars fatigue." My small apartment is littered with Star Wars merch, whether it is statues, busts, Lego sets, posters, art books, novels, or RPG miniatures. I look at, and think about Star Wars many times every day.
Only one thing related to Star Wars has ever fatigued me: my frustration with sequel trilogy films.
The uproar about the prequels was annoying, but it never fatigued me because I love the story that they tell. The clunky dialog can't change that. The overt use of digital effects can't change that. The decades of complaining from people who can't get past those things can't change that.
But the story just isn't there for the sequel trilogy. The dialog is better than the prequels. The effects are better than the prequels. But I - just - don't - care - about the new characters. They're good in concept, but their potential has been wasted at every turn. The potential of Luke and his new Jedi Order has been wasted. The potential of a post-Empire galaxy has been wasted. It's all been wasted for a rinse-and-repeat of what we've already seen. That is what fatigues me.
To get through these troubled times, I turn back to the Star Wars I know and love. The original six films. The Clone Wars series. Star Wars art and RPGs. These will never fatigue me.
True Star Wars will never fatigue me.
Exactly the same here. I find myself going back to the EU more and more, playing the games more and more, thinking of what could have been more and more. And it seems like years from now, people will look back and have a clear divide between George's Star Wars and Disney's Star Wars. I enjoyed some of Disney's SW with some comics and 7, Rogue One, and Solo (I thought it was decent) but I'm largely frustrated by the sequel trilogy. It feels directionless and like a way to clear out the old for new Disney + series and content.
@@grawman67 Agreed. The EU games and novels, along with the Lucas movies and TCW, have become my only solace.
My thoughts exactly. Even though there were complaints about the prequels. I watched them MANY times over the years. I used to use the Pod Race scene to demo my theater. I love the Darth Maul fight and music. I also demo'ed my theater with the asteroid chase between Obi-Wan and Jango.
I have watched The Force Awakens exactly ONE time. I watched the Last Jedi ONE time, and that was one time too many. I cannot believe that I could possibly hate a movie this much.
Well said. I haven't read many of the EU novels, but I referenced Wookieepedia all the time when I was writing Star Wars stories that took place after ROTJ because I wanted to be sure my story could fit in (what I felt) was a well-established continuation of the original saga. Now, there were a few parts that I didn't understand (e.g. Jaden Korr in novels that meant he was 13 during the Jedi Academy game, Stormtrooper zombies), but overall I felt that the fan-created "Legacy" was full of exciting ideas that gave me more of the Star Wars magic after the movie credits rolled.
The sequels feel like they're trying to make Star Wars more like a generic movie. I thought Poe and Finn were interesting characters at first, but then their best traits were shut down repeatedly for the sake of advancing Rey's story. Don't care much for any of the new characters nor the treatment of the old characters.
Abrams speaking to K.K.Kennedy :
"Iger does not share your optimistic appraisal of the situation.
- The Emperor is coming here ?
- He is, and he is most dissatisfied with your lack of box office progress.
- We will double our efforts !
- I hope so Kennedy, in your interest. Iger is not as nostalgic as I am."
It should be the other way around having K. K. Kennedy bossing around Jar Jar Abrahams.
@@Darkko88 for episode 7 yes, now... I'm not so sure who holds the power over there :p
lol StarWarsOnly just put out a video about Iger's comments, I'm reposting my comment on that video below since it's basically just the same topic. Note that I didn't edit my comment, and SWO seemed more willing to go on board with Iger's defense, which affected the nature of my comment on his video.
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This is really just a re-framing of the old "Star Wars fatigue" argument, which I still don't buy. Now, it is true that trying to do too much all at once without any overarching plan is part of the problem, and ultimately led to all the production problems, as well as the ultimate lack of narrative cohesion or originality in the sequel trilogy. However, the reason why Solo flopped, and TLJ divided the fanbase so fiercely is due to focusing too much on quantity over quality.
I firmly believe that if Disney managed to put out a full-length Star Wars movie every month for years, most Star Wars fans would be willing to go along with it... as long as the movies are GOOD! They were too focused on speedy production at the expense of quality. They assumed that anything with the name Star Wars on it would be a guaranteed hit so they didn't even bother to plan anything ahead!
THAT is where they screwed up. They overestimated the fans' slavish and unquestioning loyalty and assumed we'd just gleefully gobble up any crap they put out as long as it had a Star Wars logo on it. And while such fans do exist, they are not the majority. Most of us, however much we may LOVE Star Wars, still expect some measure of quality in our movies. So this is where they need to clean up their act; they can put out as many Star Wars movies as they want, but they still have to make sure they're well thought-out and good.
We demand quality first, quantity is just a bonus.
RudeAlert quality is always above quantity look at cobra Kai using the karate kid franchise in 25 min episodes and it’s been brilliant added a lot to the franchise and respected the original source material unlike Disney the dumb fucks
I'm suspecting SWO is a Disney shill, after midnights edge and doomcock reported the 25% different rights issue with George Lucas, he was one of the first to denounce it.
@@ralphderksen7958 There's no proof of that. Most likely there's a flat % that Lucas gets simply because it's all Star Wars, period.
You have said exactly what I have been saying for ages. Yet, no one will listen.
Disneyland under Walt was known for great movies and cartoons. Then he died, and unfortunately, the vision died too.
The "powers that be" at disney only care about how much money they can make off the films, how much they can get from folks with kids buying the crap made in china/taiwan etc..., and how much they can get for admission. Heck, I doubt there is a disney relly on the board.
@@franceslambert8070 Look up Abigail Disney and read her thoughts on how much she dislikes Iger and the corporation.
WoW vs SW would be a super interesting video, Thor! I’ll watch if you make it. :)
"I have friends - multiple friends, as a matter of fact"
Me: *gasp* :O
Have you heard the tragedy of Darth Disneius the Unwise? Darth Disneius was a Dark Lord of the Sith so powerful and so unwise, he could use the Force to influence the Twitter crowds to create hype. He had such a knowledge of the dark side, he could even keep the ones closest to the franchise uninterested in Star Wars.
His true name is unknown, lost to the sands of time. Some speculate he was a CEO named Bob Iger, some a director named Rian Johnson. Some speculate he was actually a woman by the name of Kathleen Kennedy, but all these tales have one common theme.
The downfall of the galaxy came not with thunderous applause or bloody revolution, but with total mismanagement by those in charge.
Great video, I always enjoy your perspective and how you integrate those of others fluidly.
People don’t get fatigued with John wick or game of thrones. Must be quality
While I agree with you, Game of Thrones is not the best example to make.
"Yeah, I'm thinking it's quality" in John Wick Voice
Keep Moving According to IMDB, Solo actually made more money world wide than John Wick 3. In fact, Solo made the kind of money that most films can only dream of. The reason Solo was a financial disaster was largely due to its budget being so large. The John Wick series, on the other hand, is considered a huge success because it’s making good money on a fairly small budget.
@@jonscott6459 and most people said they wanted to see one and not the other.
I'm not fatigued with John Wick, but the 3rd movie was bad.
He's pulling a classic politician move before their term limits is up. "Everything is great, what isn't is because of _____ which isn't my fault. My legacy will be remembered as great."
"There is SW fatigue! We got to slow down!"
A month later:
"Let's launch a bunch of tv shows and revive a few!"
Either there is SW fatigue or there isn't. You can't have it both ways, Disney.
Excellent point catching them in their contradiction.
Without some major changes in leadership, those tv shows will crash and burn too.
_Disney. You have failed me for the last time._
Who is giving this video a dislike. Truth hurts I guess
Disney drones.
When we were 3 months out from Endgame, I was practically already counting down the days.
Now, hearing that we're 3 months out from IX, and I'm like "oh yeah... that's a thing that's happening."
People gave TFA a pass BECAUSE it was a 'Star Wars' film. The main protag was a MaRey Sue. The main villain had their potential thwarted by an untrained nobody. The "story" was a blatant rip-off of a much better film.
But it was TLJ that sunk this new franchise. Luke aside, the main protag was an even more blatant MaRey Sue. The main villain required main protag's help to do anything effectively. The fight scenes should have had main protag DIE five times in a fifteen second period. The story was a disjointed hodgepodge. The comedy neutered tense/dramatic scenes. The tertiary lead was slapped down because they saved La Resistance. The black character was treated as a half-wit being lead around by the nose by the woman that knows better. The teacher was a grumpy asshole that wanted no part in the story. The main villain's boss, and supposed EVIL INCARNATE, was killed before leaving ANY impact on the rest of the story. Powerful characters from the previous film were turned into laughing stocks. These are all problems with the movie that have nothing to do with it being 'Star Wars'
'Solo' gave everybody a movie about a dead guy, yay. But this was probably the second least offensive movie Diz gave us in their 'New Order'. Bland story that wasted a potential interesting premise. Main protag was a secondary character through most of the film. Most annoying droid the 'New Order' has given us yet.
'Rogue One' had no personality on their main characters, this personality was focused more on the secondary side characters and the soulless automaton. Bland story saved by the final battle and the 'strange new space wizard' in the final scenes. Hope to learn more about this new villain in black.
There, my assessment of these non-Star Wars 'Star Wars' movies that have no relation to 'Star Wars' except for the name 'Star Wars'.
MaRey Sue? By any chance, have you watched the videos criticizing SW that a ce;rtain neonazi has posted on youtube?
@@Darkko88 Probably, I watched most of the reviews after having seen TLJ in search of why I felt so empty and confused. All I got out of the left was 'It's SW and pretty so SHUT IT!' Any other political persuasion said anything from 'I liked it but there are some serious issues here,' to 'This abomination needs to be scrubbed from human existence and anyone involved should be sent to N. Korea for reeducation.'
For the record, I lean farther towards kicking KK, JJ, and Ruin off this planet now. Mostly for how they treated me as a (now) former fan and how they bastardized SW as a whole.
I think that the beginning of the end is to be found in TFA's ending. The quest for Luke Skywalker was a potentially huge plot point, something that could have guided the whole trilogy, and concluding it at the end of the first movie opened the doors to Johnson's mess in TLJ. It could have been kind of a Fellowship of the Ring's quest throughout the trilogy. The First Order even strongly resembles the armies of Mordor before the War of the Ring, not yet in power but silently rising in the shadows. And hell, the Knights of Ren have some REALLY cool Nazgul vibes.
They basically failed to get which story they were telling. Which kind of audience they were talking to. An audience for whom there could have been no better story than one where the heroes have to find a lost Luke Skywalker (that's what we, as an audience, also wanted: to find him and bring him back, both literally and metaphorically)... but again, they killed it by ending that quest immediately. I was mostly satisfied with TFA, but it didn't leave me wanting more Star Wars. It left me feeling like I had watched a cool homage to the original trilogy, a homage that was now over. And TLJ just proved that feeling right.
@@Darkko88 So someone criticism is Neo Nazis... You're an idiot.
Fatigue?!?! yeah right!! Don't they realize how excited everyone was for new Star Wars? i still watch eps 1-6 on DVD many nights of the week when I'm bored (not all at once, but one movie a night lol)
There is no such thing as fatigue in movie franchisees. There is only boredom and disappointment.
I think you are on point, Thor. I’d also add that unlike Marvel the Star Wars franchise breaks with character development that has occurred outside of the preceding movies. Marvel movies keep people interested and long time fans engaged because they work so hard to ensure that the character development that occurred in the comic books over decades remains somewhat consistent with the what they do with the characters in the movies. Granted., Star Wars doesn’t have a 50 year cycle of comic books to fall back on, But it does have an extensive amount of books that were written in the canon Disney disposed of the minute they got property of Star Wars. I personally believe the biggest disconnect occurred when Disney decided to throw this out. Like it or not many fans had followed their favorite characters from the original trilogy‘s via these books. If Disney had made an effort to try to honor the character development that occurred Outside the movies that came before the sequel trilogy, I think it would’ve gone a long way to alleviating a lot of the concerns that have become such big issues today for the Fanbase.
I want them to start marketing The Mandalorian... I don’t want it to “Flop” like Solo did... specially because its the only upcoming SW related entertainment I’m looking forward to (other than the Clone Wars of course)
I'm actually surprised I haven't seen any commercials on TV for DIsney+ yet. Then again, I don't really watch much TV...
Werid way of saying clone wars multi-media project > the clone wars
The Mandalorian IS Disney Star Wars. It's gonna Bomb. It has to.
@@thorskywalker #Metoo
Before Disney bought Star Wars, I was buying the new SW books as soon as they came out, re-read older SW books all the time, listened to SW audiobooks, etc. At this point, I'm probably going to wait until episode 9 comes out on video & then rent it rather than go to the theater or buy it to see it. This is not Star Wars fatigue - it's a disinterest in politics, which is what the new movies with the Star Wars name plastered on them are all about. Makes me sad to think about it.
It’s not fatigue fans were hungry after revenge of the Sith, it was the first backlash from the prequels, they used the sequel trilogy to troll fans
If they can't have a moment of introspection where they ask the ever-important question of, "Maybe it's me." Then they're not surrounding themselves with the right people. The marketing branch of any company has shifted away from the center, and almost has been in a "Not my fault" mentality. Look at those boiler plate responses that say "We're listening, and adding what you want" whenever they mess up, not "We're sorry, we can do better"
Alex Miles It’s kind of the same problem Lucas ironically ran into with the Prequels. As a struggling filmmaker who’s trying to tell this unique story in 1975, everyone around him questioned him and forced him to make compromises to make everything work. As a filmmaker who redefined film and the industry in 1997, who would tell him that his decisions weren’t the best or could be better?
Who’s going to tell Iger and Disney that they’re screwing up?
@@ForceMaximus84 it's supposed to be those that listen to the fans, but for all our voices, I'm afraid we'll all go hoarse before those that lead hear.
It's simple, get rid of SJW Kathleen Kennedy and Rian Johnson, go back to the vision of George Lucas, based on timeless mythology as explained by Joseph Campbell, and stop disrespecting the most iconic characters in cinematic history with Mary Rey Sues.
Lord Kuuga my little sister couldn’t believe Luke at all in last Jedi and she thinks Kyle ren is a weakling and hates Rey because she’s boring and overpowered this is from an 9 year old she couldn’t believe Luke would try and kill his nephew for no reason when he wouldn’t kill his evil hand chopping Jedi killing father
Lord Kuuga she is strong with the force lmao I’m 27 and my 40 year old half brother got me obsessed with Star Wars since I was 5 and I’ve done the same with her Luke is her favourite and return is her favourite film. The sequels are poison though I did enjoy rogue one. She also loves the clone wars and the Eu
Lord Kuuga Read all those novels and played most those games lol shadows of the empire was amazing but the under water monster was scary as shit. Thrawn trilogy is incredible and introduces mara jade who is one of my favourite characters. Crimson empire great aswell another one of my faves. Loved the Jedi Knight academy on pc and the original battlefront hames were the best especially because 2 came out the year revenge of the sith came out which is my personal favourite Star Wars movie. I can’t remember rogue squadron very well but my brothers definitely had it. I remember playing the old arcade game though all the time
@genius2005, I could not agree more. I feel like they missed the whole point of SW. Classic hero tale/Greek tragedy. The problem is not just that the movie(8) was bad, but it harmed the story that had already been told. I often wish ROTJ had been the last......apart from the Mandalorian.
Brian Myers the Eu has flaws but is 1000 times better than the sequels. I honestly though rey would be Leias daughter jaina Considering how they’ve tried to make them close even though they don’t even know each other. The sequels are a disgrace and should be erased from canon period
Prepare yourself for Disneys new franchise staring Alien and Predator.
Its going to make AVP2 look like a masterpiece.
I would be interested in you comparing WOW to Lucas film tbh
I was actually onboard with the idea of a soft re-boot. It makes sense from a film and business perspective.
What put me off Disney Star Wars is the crappy loop hole riddled story lines that made no sense and had so many missed opportunities for character as well as world development.
I have terrible writing fatigue (with some of the later Marvel offerings too, it’s not just SW)
IF...IF...the sequels were new movies and the other six didn't exist and Luke was a new character....I'd be left asking, what was the point of his character anyways? TFA makes a big deal out of him. TLJ shows he's a depressed, washed up character that the "hero" didn't even need. So, why was he a big deal in the first place? It would've been easier to just say that her lightsaber was a magical weapon and it spontaneously gave her superpowers.
But what I really want to know is your take on Iger's comments about Lucas and how he felt betrayed by Disney, Kennedy, Abrams and Arndt. Because it sounds like his criticisms of TFA (and most likely TLJ) are the same as the fans criticisms.
You’re awesome! And thanks for sharing “Where’s My Hollywood”! Helped my Monday a lot 🙏🏼
Bob Iger needs to go. His deflection tactics and legacy cash-ins for quick profits will kill Star Wars and Disney sooner than later.
He's already stated he's retiring in 2021, also how long he rehired Kathleen Kennedy for.
Now the catch, he was supposed to retire in 2018 too... Disney "couldn't find" a replacement. So they got him to delay his retirement. Thus it's potentially possible he could delay his retirement again and/or rehire Kathleen Kennedy before his currently set retirement date.
Supposedly Bob Iger really wants to be the Democratic party version of Donald Trump and become a politician. Which is why he won't fire Hollywood's most well known female film studio head. He'd pretty much be guaranteed that the hard core left would abandon him. It's likely also why Marvel is doing a huge diversity shift for phase 5. Basically he's trying to show his political parties dream company leadership and product, so the hard core left will be excited to vote for an old white guy.
My bet is he'll only leave Disney of his own free will if he thinks he can guarantee will an election. Otherwise he'll only leave because he's voted out by either the board or stockholders.
Jonathan Ryan Well, if Disney makes less and less money, he’ll be voted out. It just sucks that it will be at the expense of Star Wars itself.
@@jonathanryan9946 Fuck it, let's bring Eisner back. At least he tried different things.
Honestly, let disney die.
It was fun, but the golden goose is dead.
Least we can do is give it a proper funeral.
Disney had a universe of stories, characters, and talent to pull from, yet they lacked the vision or interest in creating good or even cohesive content. If this were an unknown franchise, it would just be a moments disappointment and we would all move on. The fact that it is iconic, classic, well known and well loved and this is how they treat it just makes their motives seem malicious and leaves us with lasting disappointment and resentment.
its going to clear 2 billion even though there will be empty theaters everywhere
I'm a person who has binge watched all the seasons of Supernatural on Netflix in the past 5 years. Forty five minutes an episode, 22 episodes a season for 14 seasons. Fans don't tend to get fatigued when the series is good. If they did televised sports just wouldn't work.
Fans are just "fatigued" of SJW'S, Mary Sues, bad movies.
Joe H. AMEN TO THAT
Disney is too big to fail, that is what they must be thinking. Why else keep Kathleen Kennedy?
None of which is in the Star Wars franchise.
master106 games Then you clearly haven’t been paying attention whatsoever.
master106 games 🤔 not in the original trilogy or prequels but this disney 💩show has been nothing but peaches😘
Honestly in isolation I don't know if they hold up on their own, they rely on the SW name & association
Honestly, in isolation? It's a mixed bag. The Last Jedi is a travesty of story telling, throwing character development, plot progression, character motivation and basic logical thinking out the window (although that last one is absurdly common in movies nowadays). It has major tonal issues, punctuating every serious moment with a joke that rarely lands, and so many plot and character decisions that, even in isolation, just pull viewers out of the experience.
The Force Awakens is decent enough, if trope-heavy and overly reliant on the mystery box approach to grab and hold attention, mysteries now condemned to an existence of red herrings.
Rogue One is a mostly solid war movie, albiet one with a primary cast I didn't particularly care about. Objectively, it's fine in isolation and in context. Subjectively, I didn't particularly care for it. Never saw the exhaust vent as a plot hole, myself, and people talking about it as though it was kinda baffled me, so a dedicated explanation for it just kinda pulled me out of the movie.. A massive weapons platform *would* generate a ton of heat and exhaust and a relatively small direct vent in a heavily defended area that's a one-in-a-million shot anyway is one of those vulnerabilities that *would* be easily overlooked in a massive construction and only truly a clever and/or desperate foe would exploit such a weakness that is so slim. Perfect fit, honestly. The rest was... fine, but not my cup of tea.
And then Solo. I'm not sure that movie COULD exist in isolation. I doubt it. So much of it relies on the viewer having a mental checklist of every notable thing the principle character ever did that it's just feels like sitting down with a drunk relative, looking at a photo album of a road trip from years ago as they haphazardly try reminiscing about it with you despite the fact that you weren't there. I did not like Solo.
So, yes and no. Some of it works and a lot doesn't, and in isolation, I'm not sure many people would go back to watch these again or discuss them as much as they do now. They just don't seem to earn that, in my opinion
I honestly think The Last Jedi would have been recieved better if it was just a standalone new movie.
- It would have been praised even more for its visuals: "this high quality of visuals is unheard of outside the big francises"
- many problems peaple have with the overal narritive wouldn't be an issue, because the problems were linked to previous movies: Becausd we already knew Luke, this version didn't make sense. If Luke was, like Mark Hamill said himself, Jake Skywalker, people wouldn't hate the character.
“ hello there” I’m only hyped for Star Wars the Mandalorian, Star Wars the clone wars season 7 and the Obi Wan Kenobi show.
I'm hyped for all three of those as well... and hoping for the best from Episode Nine.
Lionard Kirsch I’ll believe it when I see it but for now you are just a angry Star Wars fan who hates everything about Star Wars canon.
Lionard Kirsch sorry I misunderstood you.
Lionard Kirsch it’s ok I get it I’m pissed at Disney too.
I don't know who even invented the term "Star Wars fatigue". I mean, has any of you seen a similar "fatigue" in any other kind of art?
If people don't like it, it's never "fatigue": *it's a bad product.*
I believe Bob Igor is a very smart guy. He’s not going to make a statement without doing his research. Or have someone do it for him. So when I think what is the best corporate position to take with the current state of Star Wars. We’ll if I’m Bob Igor, I can’t come out and say. Hey we have no clue what we’re doing and that’s why Solo failed. No I have to put a spin on it. Too justify why it’s not doing as well as they thought. Without admitting some of the fans just don’t like the product that Disney’s been producing.
Look the man is getting ready to run for Office. He’s practicing his political spin talk on the media and Star Wars fans. But I think he does understand what the problem is. That’s why Rian’s trilogy has been put on the back burner. Likely won’t see the light of day. The D&D trilogy was a good idea. Until we got the last season of GOT. It kind of backfired in Igor’s face. But Disney has two very promising shows coming on their streaming service.That can make the fans forget the last year and a half of Star Wars content. Maybe by the time the D&D trilogy comes around. The fan base will have healed a bit. And we’ll be ready to accept a whole new cinematic adventure. If D&D can deliver, Igor May have a chance to turn this thing around. We’ll see.......
Love your videos man! Thanks for the high quality all around, and the "let's talk star wars".
Really look forward to let talk every weekend, and your mon-fri videos as well.
Thank you for saying that. The number of people who participate in the polls each week, and leave comments, is both awesome and humbling. It's an honor to be able to talk some Star Wars with so many.
@@thorskywalker I just wish I got notified for your polls like I do for your videos. I have to search your channel up every Saturday and look at the community tab to see them.
When asked why Marvel fatigue isn't a thing, they'll respond that "Marvel and Star Wars have different fanbases!"
1. I'd bet VERY good money that the MCU and Star Wars have at *least* 50% fanbase overlap, and almost certainly much, much more than that.
2. Who is it that publishes Star Wars comics? Oh that's right MARVEL
It‘s so simple: the most important difference between the MCU and Disney Star Wars was planning ahead. Kevin Feige has a clear, if malleable Plan in place for the MCU, being able to incorporate unexpected characters like Spidey seamlessly into the bigger picture and even letting the Guardians if the Galaxy make sense in this universe, while Disney Star Wars is by comparison randomly put together so far. To quote Red Letter Media: “The Last Jedi Script feels like it was written by a college student. One who gave it his best and put a lot of thought into it!”
Sometimes I wish there’d be someone in Disney who could be as blunt as Dan Aykroyd was when he made a very deriding comment about Paul Feig...
Yeah, Disney should have plotted out a whole trilogy before a single frame was shot.
ClandestineOstrich do you mean Disney Star Wars or Marvel?
Marlon Moncrieffe they should at the very least have had fixed story points. A beginning, a middle, an end. Of course plotting the entire thing out to every detail would be too much. But to have a general direction in place before even the director is hired would’ve been helpful.
"Built upon not reinvented" ....
Yep!
Bob iger - its star wars fatigue. So here's a whole load of star wars TV on disney + 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Had they just pushed Solo back to December - I think a lot of this would be different. The failure of TLJ was too fresh for even the non-jaded non-internet types.
Yep. The bad taste was still in everyone's mouths
If it released in December it would be up against Aquaman, what are the odds it would survive it lol? Aquaman made a lot more them Deadpool 2 and audiences clearly preferred Deadpool over Solo
@@pedroh.ferraz511 look back to even a few years ago big releases could coincide and make money- I do believe Solo would have done a bit better had there been more time. Probably, not a crazy difference but I do think it would be better, but with that I think Disney would currently hold a different view on the health of potential star wars releases-
I don't think that would have done anything, people are still talking about TLJ as if it is still out, which is the big problem.
I doubt it... People are still pissed off about Disney Star Wars NOW, and many of us (myself included) have absolutely no plans to go see Episode 9. Disney has lost me as a customer.
All we want is well written stories with interesting characters alive in a fascinating world driven by themes and settings that inspire creativity and awe within the viewer.
Just letting you know i´m very interested in a video of you comparing Blizzard and Star Wars ;)
I don't have star wars fatigue. I have life fatigue.
bruh
I'm playing WoW Classic while I listen to this video. :)
People forget Disney panders to what people find accepting and only sell what they think people want to see, hence why song of the south is their dirty little secret now but back in the day it was fine. It’s a business and at the end of the day the people making decisions at the top couldn’t care less about the product quality only the profit potential. Repeating the over saturation argument again isn’t accountability it’s denial, every fan would love more Star Wars media whether it’s comics, video games, movies, books, etc.
What fans don’t want is more low grade half baked cash grabs that openly disrespect the consumer and the original characters.
I’m guessing Disney will just start remaking the originals...sad but I could see it happening.
No because they actually sold the rights to the original films to pay for episode 7...look it up. A music business man owns it for a 10 year period. Had to pay for the pink haired woman I guess.
Lol they already have 7 and 8 are parody rehash rip off copying garbages of the Originals that have shit allover them
You know, Disney is pissing me off so much that I’m having a hard time even wanting to take my kids to the parks.
For a little context I use to work for them. I’m actively involved in the theme park industry which they are the leaders. I admire them and try to emulate them in my own business. Yet they have worn me thin. I have so many great memories of the parks. I met my wife there. But it has gotten to the point that I can’t stand them. It’s hard to piss off some one who at one time was one of there apologists.
Can u do a video about what Bob Iger said in his book about George Lucas?
Thank you for another good video. To answer the question if I would have judged it differently if it was not Star Wars? The answer is Yes! I would not have bothered to see it in theaters. I definitely would not have seen the sequel. I saw Star Wars in 1977 as an 8 year old on a family vacation to California to visit my Aunt. To say Star Wars is special to me is an understatement. Star Trek, Lost in Space and Space 1999 we're in syndication and Dr. Who with Tom Baker as The Doctor had just started airing on PBS stations. Yet, Star Wars was new and original. It captivated a generation. It still could if it was run by visionaries and not ideologues. I will not support the sequel trilogy just because it's Star Wars. We had plenty of stories to adapt from the Expanded Universe. Kathleen Kennedy's bad decisions and lack of vision are to blame. Until she is gone and someone with the insight to run Lucasfilm is found, they do not have my support. I thank them for keeping the EU in print, The Clone Wars & I did like Rebels. Keep up the good work Thor Skywalker. May The Force Be With You!
No one's complaining about the production value of the new Star Wars. Acting, Action the CGI. And if you did not already know the story at all. Even the story. But there's the problem. People expected to see at least a similar narrative along the lines of all the Lucas produced Star Wars. And they totally gave us some other movie with some other story from some other universe. Like that's even close to acceptable. Just so they can push their political beliefs and agendas. Using Star Wars to vomit their garbage. it's an insult of the highest order. And they're pretending like they didn't do anything wrong. They just double down on douchebag. It is not a subjective opinion that the new Star Wars is an affront to all previous Star Wars. It is fact. If they had called it something else. Made something new. instead of desecrating a franchise people love. It is likely any of the Disney productions would have been much much much better received. But it is obvious Disney is not interested in entertainment. They are interested only in disseminating their own message. And the loss of any revenue because of this is seen as the cost of doing business. People aren't tired of Star Wars. People are tired of the desecration of franchises they love. Bob iger said "too much too quickly." I think he meant to say. Too much insulting garbage. Too quickly or at all. I think Walt Disney would have been extremely ashamed of Bob. I know I am.!
No, man, what you said is an opinion and it IS subjective. You might want to go look up the definitions of fact and subjective. I happen to agree with most of what you said, but you need to know when you are stating fact and when it is subjective opinion.
@@tomradcliff6859 Are you telling me it's subjective that they did not use any of George Lucas's next segment of story. And replacing it with their own agenda field Narrative. No that is not subjective. That is a fact. And by doing so desecrated the Star Wars franchise by admission of George Lucas himself. So I think you need to understand what is being said. Before commenting.
@@I86282 Gsup7s Gsup7s Understood it fine. You calling it an "affront to all Star Wars" was a subjective opinion. You specifically labeled it a fact when it is not. The FACT is many fans loved it. The movies themselves didnt take offense. You restated a few things but still are using words like desecrate. It is a fact that they didnt use Lucas outlines for 3 movies, that there was a notable departure from some expected storytelling norms for Star Wars, and a fact that it caused a notable backlash amongst the public (then again, so did JarJarBinks for Lucas). Affront? Desecration? Subjective. Affront to Lucas himself? Likely a fact based on responses he has given in interviews.
I have a friend who took her 9 yr old granddaughter to see TLJ which would incidentally be her first ever Star Wars movie. (She was 7 yrs old when TFA came out and wasn't that interested in it to see it.) I had the opportunity to ask her what she thought of the movie when she was at her grandmothers whom I was visiting at the time. She said she like it. I asked her what characters did she like the most?
Now this is where her response became interesting. She said that she really didn't have a favorite but told me about certain scenes she remembered. She remembered the Porg scenes with Chewie and the chase scene on Canto Bight. She also really liked the funny looking people on Canto Bight. I asked her if she had any Star War toys? She replied no.
I then looked over at her grandmother who nodded her head in approval as if she could read my mind. I then asked her if she would rather have a Porg or a Chewie. She surprisingly said a Chewie. (I thought for sure it would be a Porg.) At this point I asked if there were any other characters she remembered. She said "I don't know?" I replied "How about Rey, do you remember her?" She said, "Yes"? I then asked what about Luke Skywalker? Then she said the most telling thing of all. "Yes, I remember him but he was mean."
We talked a little more about the movie but the Luke Skywalker reveal was pivotal and gut wrenching to say the least. I grew up with the original Star Wars and saw them all as they were released at the theaters. I loved all the characters, especially Luke Skywalker. But what Disney has done to this character and to the franchise at large couldn't be better summed up - be that from the 9 yr old granddaughter of a good friend and her first encounter with a Star Wars movie.
Yes i would love a video comparing blizzard/WoW to star wars
I'd love to see an in depth investigation into the effect netfliz and other streaming services have had on movie viewing. The point you made about the constant quality series almost replacing movies is definitely worth looking into, I know I personally find it more enjoyable to binge watch a 9 hour series than a 9 hour movie trilogy
Never played wow but I think a video on the similarities would be nice🤟
Yeah I would love a WOW SW comparison video. I've been thinking about how similar these situations are. Happy to see you made the connection.
WoW vs Star Wars! Do it (in my Sidious voice)
The problem isn’t Star Wars fatigue, The problem is that Disney is no longer treating Star Wars as it should’ve been. You could despise George Lucas’s Prequels all you want but it’s undeniable that those movies had true Star Wars passion, and the fact that behind the scenes they were pushing the limits of the technology at the time makes them deserve all the more praise. The Sequels are copy and pasted from the OT, and honestly Great Movie effects aren’t much to surprising these days just like video games, what’s more important is telling a good story, with excitement sprinkled in every now and again(Or if your the Prequels nonstop action haha)
The Sequels could’ve broken new ground and reinvented Star Wars in a way that wasn’t.... what it is now.
Now we have to ask ourselves if the movie will be as bad as the last one and what kind of Political message would be sent our way-and that’s not Star Wars, Sure Prequels had politics but it actually worked with the story and displayed Palpatines rise to power phenomenally, The Sequels do it because they have the power to get away with it no matter how many people call them out on it not working. That is the problem. Not Star Wars Fatigue, it’s Disney’s handling of the brand Star Wars.
I think one very important point with the prequels is how they took on criticism. I still remember the heated discussions after TPM who didn't cool off after Ep2 at all, but I also remember how Lucasfilm reacted: they openly admitted they made mistakes and promised to make it better next time, and they acutally tried (ep3 is still the most liked of the prequels). That's a far cry to the toxic attacks KK, RJ, JJ and others involved in the sequels commited. I still haven't found a single post of GL calling his critics "manbabies".
For me, it all sums up in two different photos:
George Lucas wearing a t-shirt "Han shot first!"
K.Kennedy wearing a t-shirt "the force is female!"
soriac Well said man, I Especially found your bit about George Lucas and KK shirts quite fitting, considering the circumstances of how both factions handled criticism.
First good video Mr. Thor where is that storm breaker pic
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agl;hag;or I was playing _World of Warcraft_ in the background the moment you said it! And I agree that things with WoW have been rocky to say the least, erstwise its greatest speedbump has to be the handling of _Warlords of Draenor_ and how there was a severe lack of additional content to it to enjoy, thankfully it was able to quickly bounce back thanks to _Legion_ , but my Kid Brother says that _Battle for Azeroth_ is a mixed bag to say the least, I just wish that we'll get some decent Allied Races in the near-future, because I would definitely love it if we could play as an Arakkoa.
Once again, Thor Skywalker. What else is new?
To be fair the sequels are probably better if you haven’t seen the original or prequels. That said I dont think they’d be able to survive on their own if they were a new franchise
Star Wars will not beat Avengers. That's my prediction.
I dont watch marvel, but I agree with you.
It's not just that I dont watch marvel, but most every film I give a miss, save star wars, oh and the new Jay and silent bob film when it comes out
Being serious, I don't really hate the movies, I just don't like them at all, because they didn't treat the characters we all know and love in the right way, and for people saying this isn't their story, they are called "The Sequel Trilogy" for a reason, they're meant to tell the story of what happened after TRotJ...with that, I think the new movies have bad characters, not that they're all horrible, but the new characters are fully developed, we haven't seen them really learn anything from the 2 out of 3 movies and not growing with a character through a story is just boring, I have no interest in a character that has nothing to learn and is near perfect or just there for the joke, for me the real problem comes to the people writing, lazy stories, lazy character delop with laughable plot holes...
I thought the same as you Thor. But I’m optimistic the best of Disney Star Wars is ahead of us. I’m also someone who likes this trilogy more than most
no, there have been times where i’ve wanted something i like to end because if it kept going it end up starting to become bad or take a direction i don’t like.
Yes make that video comparing WOW to Star Wars
I for one would be interested in the Star Wars/WoW discussion video. It's actually a comparison I've made in the past to one of my friends who has kept playing WoW and says he loves the new movies despite the consistent drops in quality.
im SJW fatigued
I've just recently gotten into WoW through WoW classic and some friends begging me to give it a try. In me becoming addicted to WoW... I mean not addicted, I could stop if I wanted to... I have learned of the community of WoW through youtube, world chats, discord, and my friends. Every step of the way I've been comparing it to Star Wars as it is VERY similar and I would REALLY want to hear your unbiased, but also a biased point of view in the comparison of the two.
They can’t admit any fault just like Trump
"Everyone loves me" 👌👌
Maybe people are tired of BAD movies.
It's not Star Wars fatigue, it's Hollywood fatigue
What's coming out this week? Another bad remake? Cool...never saw that before
1st
Return of the MAsterr
@@thorskywalker i saw it pop up but couldn't get to it asap... took me a good 10 seconds, but i saw an empty section and said MEH, ILL TRY IT ANYWAY... this was unexpected haha...
Have a nice 70 min round trip coming up soon, will give this a full listen then
I don’t have Star Wars fatigue I have poor storytelling fatigue
I’m only talking personally here but I was thrilled when Star Wars slowed down its production. I’m one of the fans who has loved everything that has come out and don’t have much issues like you do. For me though it gets draining watching something consistently and then being required to continue being invested constantly. I want to enjoy multiple things and not be tied to one thing. For example I’ve loved the MCU and have enjoyed it greatly but don’t plan on following it anymore aside from the black widow movie and guardians of the galaxy 3. I’ve enjoyed it but I’m done with it. The story I followed is over aside from seeing the two mentioned. Do I think the future movies will be bad? No but I just feel it’s a good a time as any to take a break from it. I feel giving Star Wars time to breath is a good thing. It makes me more excited because when something Star Wars comes out it’ll be a huge deal and i feel I’ll savor it more.
I also feel that them releasing a bunch of things at once was the core of their problem. They were spreading themselves so thin in terms of time and focus that they made some bumps that ultimately upset people. For example I think if they would’ve say just focused on the new trilogy and not worry about anything else yet I don’t think some of the issues would be there. Even though I love the new movies I still acknowledge some mistakes were made and I do think it had a lot to do with how much they put out at once. Because for example again the MCU only had a film a year basically until avengers and they were solely focused on seeing if avengers worked before making any huge decisions which was wise. I don’t think Star Wars did this and wanted to focus on the new trilogy, side story movies, tv shows, comics, games, and books. I feel it spread Lucas films focus and caused issues.
Would love to just have your take on Blizzard in general! Love your videos, and even when I disagree I appreciate how thought out your points are
Thor you can make whatever video you want. At the end of the day it's your channel and I personally respect that.
In all honesty, you really opened a can of worms with your questions. And there is no single, clear-cut answer for them.
I have actually seen one case where an ongoing franchise that's highly praised has those same people wanting it to slow down, take a break, or end, and that's the MCU. We've gotten a massive decade long series of movies that built up to one of the most hyped endings ever, and people are happy, but burnt out. Spiderman worked because it felt like an epilogue to the events, but if they continue trying to push forward at the same exhausting rate they've been going, people are going to start dropping out, no matter how good it is.
But while that is an example of how fatigue is possible, it also shows the extreme lengths it takes to cause. There's no way Star Wars after only 3-4 movies would be facing the same thing if the new content was truly loved. Many of the people who supposedly have Star Wars Fatigue stayed loyal for dozens of years, reading scores of books and rewatching the movies countless times without tiring in the slightest. If those people are uninterested in your new movies, you know it's a quality problem, not a quantity problem.
Oh, and I'd love a video comparing Star Wars to WoW.
I've never been a fan of heavy recaps, but I understand the problem with no information being given regarding the past events in a story. I'm a binger, but there are some shows that I haven't watched due to the time required to get that background info.