The Killing of Jennifer Laude
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not-so-fun-fact: Harry Roque, who was one of Laude's family's attorneys, later became the press secretary for the Duterte Administration and defended the choice to pardon Pemberton. He later ran for senate this year and very deservedly lost.
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The guy is a snake
What a snake
Politics is a fucking dirty game.
For the unfamiliar, Harry Roque is the person using his phone right beside Laude’s mother @ 12:00.
I'm from the Philippines, the fact that Pemberton got absolute pardoned by our "President" even after his crime is absurd.
He should at least serve the minimum amount of time. Not really sure why Duterte pardoned him but eh.
May I ask you a question then. Why is it that women from the Philippines only date White Males and others from the Philippines?
@@MattMatt77 most of them liked the money part.
@@MattMatt77 the cliché thought of them that foreigners having a huge penis, also they think that foreigners = easy money for them. Generally they also find foreigners attractive, that's the effect of us living in a third world country sadly.
@@eradict the theory/rumor that I always hear is that the US demanded his pardon in exchange for the vaccines. A stupid theory but that's what I always hear
As an American, this sh*t is straight up embarrassing. I'm fully aware of what US soldiers get away with (actually, apparently just the surface bc those numbers were alarming).
"Panic" should not be an excuse. Imagine being like "your honor, this person was gay, and I'm not, so I had to k*ll them. You get it, right?" Is that not a hate crime by definition?
At no point is someone's orientation or gender justification for murder, and how dare both governments agree that it is.
He got off free bc she was trans. There's nothing else to it.
Imagine if a Phillipines soldier murdered an American woman on our soil. Imagine the outrage and the manhunt. This should be no different.
This should honestly be a top comment here. I was thinking all the same things, but you said it better than I ever could.
To be fair, you can acknowledge the intent of the perpetrator and argue for mitigating circumstances without claiming that it's okay. Regardless, it doesn't excuse the cruel murder of an innocent woman and his defense falls dead in the water since he went out of his way to murder Laude.
Cringe
He got off free because politics
Imagine being so sheltered that you are afraid of someone's sexuality or gender. Doesn't seem too masculine to me.
"You have not treated Pemberton fairly. So I released him. Pardon,"
He said about a MURDERER. Oh no, poor guy. He just murdered an innocent person when he could've simply said no to engaging in sexual acts with her when he found out she was trans. He didn't mean any harm... he just literally killed someone.
And the irony is that he has anyone shot without trial when they are caught with just an ounce of weed. If anyone deserves a summary execution, it is Pemberton.
She cheated and put herself in a highly dangerous position and as sad as it is….it’s insanely risky.
Half a millon $$$ bro.
Jennifer was only 26 when she died. She had a lot of life left to live. It's sad to see someone's life cut so short. I hope one day her family can find justice and peace.
She kinda sounded like a badass. Paying to repair her family’s home, even helping her neighbors financially. What a sweet soul she sounded like. It’s so sad what happened, and so sickening how her case was handled.
Her mom was a badass too. “Just because we are poor doesn’t mean we can’t fight” Jennifer was definitely her daughter!
@@simicrst *she
@@susieweir9847 SHE!
@@simicrst SHE
@@vickiixoxo3849 Go Back to delusion island
The fact that Jennifer was so close to living the life of her dreams with her soulmate made this even more crushing…. If only she’d been able to leave just a little sooner. I’m so sorry for that sweet lady. And I am so sorry for her family and her fiance.
The murder is not okay and he should be punished, I just wonder if they were planning on moving to Germany why would they put themselves in a position to engage in sexual activities with a stranger.
@@satsujihanin 2 things.
1: She, not they. (you clearly aren't talking about both her and her fiance since he wasn't involved in any "sexual activities.") Using "they" for transwomen isn't some neutral stance, is still misgendering, and is, to be concise, a dick move.
2: She was supporting herself and others with her sex work, and until she could actually leave and start making money in Germany, she has to work still. While we can't know how her fiance felt about this, this isn't any sort of mitigating factor to her murder. Even if we assume he was unaware and not okay with it, infidelity doesn't warrant a death sentence.
@@celtia6131 of course it does, because if those behaviors are known to be risky behaviors especially in those areas then given the circumstances then neither one of them should have been okay with that type of work. Why would you potentially put someone you love in danger?
@@satsujihanin "of course it does" to what part? There's only two claims I made that this makes sense as a response to. Either where I say that it isn't a mitigating factor to her murder, or that infidelity doesn't warrant a death sentence.
So, are you claiming that her murderer deserves a lighter sentence because he murdered a sex worker? Or that infidelity warrants a death sentence? Or, we can look behind the implied door 3 and ask if you're saying that her life didn't matter due to her being trans. Because I struggle to imagine you'd be trying to make these points if a cis person was the subject of this video.
@@celtia6131 She, not they. (you clearly aren't talking about both her and her fiance since he wasn't involved in any "sexual activities.") That's what it was in reference. Whatever your agenda is it's not going to make an impact on anything. Stop trying to make something out of nothing.
Rest In Peace Jennifer, you deserved so much better from this cruel world. I pray that fate will punish your murderer in one way or another.
How did she deserve better? She was cheating on her fiance.
@@Lame_Alpha in any situation, you don’t really think an affair justifies murder… do you??
@@chava4809 of course not. But all I'm saying is let's not paint her like a saint.
@@Lame_Alpha well she didn’t have to be a saint to deserve better than this tragic end, and she didn’t need you criticizing something trivial in comparison to her death either.
@@chava4809nobody deserves this but having the wherewithal to avoid situations like this is pivotal in any facet of life. She gambled and became a statistic.
I really can't stomach this story, I feel so heartbroken for the victim and family and so so sickened by the treatment of the case and killer afterwards, thank you so much for sharing her story, more people need to know that this isn't ok and it's simply evil, there's no way to rationalize or pardon evil
the guy got an AC, an apartment, and kept stacking up money..how is that being treated not fair? thats better then the prisons in norway ,and they literally let people go out for the weekend for good behavior.
To be fair Norway is a lot more progressive and has one of the lowest recidivism rates in the world(who knew, treating a Human as a Human and not a Piece of shit would mean that they are better off works!?)
@@davidh7177 crazy idea but dont say that to American they will say your communist
the US state department bribed Dudu.
I was a fixer in Manila at the time when they offered the handofr job to me but i didn't answer. Then the #2 guy in Manila got the job.
The job came from a shell tax auditing comoany in Manila we all knew is the US state department's back channel.
His conditions absolutely were not better than Norway. A jail cell there is equal to a cheap but new hotel room.
@K.M.V S norways prison systems are based on rehabilitation rather than punishment, unlike the United States. Recidivism is incredibly low in norway because of this. Prison systems based on true rehabilitation rather than punishment often have very little issues with reoffenders.
As a Filipino, I'm thankful that you covered this story, but there's something that people should know. Though the country is very conservative, but it has the highest level of tolerance in Asia. Now the keyword here is TOLERANCE, not acceptance. The Philippines is the most lgbtq+ friendly country in asia, but that does not mean that the majority of Filipino's accept them. Homophobia and transphobia is still very much a thing in the country, so LGBTQ+ individuals are very rarely treated the same way a cis person is treated. Though there are progress being made, it will take some time, but the most important step has already been established, as tolerance comes first before acceptance.
It is what it is. Hoping the best for the trans people but you know. To be fair they have a sizable mob of their own so I guess the cycle repeats. It's nothing but pointless clamor on both sides.
If as you said, transphobia is still very much a thing, what did your comment add to the conversation? I’m genuinely asking because if someone who is LGBTQIA+ isn’t treated with the same rights and respect as someone who is cisgender, what’s actually being tolerated?
@@01SaltyWitch Your being gay is tolerated. It's not "accepted" hence same-sex marriage is not legal. But being gay alone is not illegal.
So, in summary, we are forcing the world to accept whatever lie we wish to say and if they don't then they are evil and wrong. Got it.
Honey you can't say "the Philippines is the most tolerant" and "there's homophobia" at the same time...
Absolutely no relation to this guy. But I remember when this case happened very well. When this all happened I used to be very active in Facebook and had a lot of Filipina friends online that I used to chat daily. I probably received 100 different messages from my foreign friends asking me if I knew this guy or if I was related lol it was wild. It's sad Laude received no justice in this case. Pemberton should've been prosecuted to the fullest.
“Should’ve” “should’ve” “should’ve” 🙄
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@@aristeele1043 "Should've", "Should've", "Should've" - Remember to capitalize the first letter, Ari.
@@aristeele1043 What point are you trying to make?
@@aristeele1043 what?
This is disgusting, no reason he shouldve even pardoned. I could not even imagine. My heart goes to her and her family 🙏🏾
Him, and his family.
@@MissMocha Get a life already, Jesus. Such a sad person, misgendering the dead? She was murdered. Leave her alone.
@@pja6476 you mean the single comment being one going out of its way to disrespect a murdered trans person?
@Youk Hunt bro pressed💀💀
@@pja6476 almost as hilarious as the way the murderer freaked out on his victim, right? Just... so so funny.
I feel so sad for Jennifer. She was beautiful inside and out and truly valued her relationships with the people around her. The generous nature of her despite being poverty stricken gives me so much added anguish since people like her are few and far between these days. The Philippines lost a truly beautiful treasure who demonstrated kindness and support to her community and acceptance to the others struggling with their own sexuality. I sincerely hope one day Jennifer gets justice and in the meantime I pray she's in a place where she's free of pain and any other negative feelings and she's flourishing in the place we all go once we leave this earth❤️😭
I feel so bad for that mother as well. She truly is a saint for being so kind and accepting to her daughter. Something you wouldn’t expect in such a heavily catholic country.
This is so sad. It leaves you with that feeling of unfairness. I really loved seeing pictures of her with Mark though, they looked really happy together.
Jennifer and Mark deserve to be living their lives together, sadly her life was brutally ended by a coward hiding behind a uniform.
If they were so happy...why was she literally "jobbing" it up the moment she didn't get to leave? What happened is awful and unfair...I'm just saying if they were so happy then why? He was clearly just paying for her way out of there. Mail order bride style.
@@packers12to80 cuz she was in extreme poverty still and supporting her family? It's obvious why and it's obvious mark was fine with it cuz unlike most men he understood and accepted her. Also according to most studies a good chunk of marriages are arranged like that so who cares? Most marriages esp those that people freely choose who they marry end in divorce. So who cares if he was helping her out of extreme poverty so she could help her family out of it as well. She wasn't western world poor she was 3rd world country 10 people in a small shack with no running water or electricity poor.
@@packers12to80 I mean I don't think anyone who didn't know them can truly say. But in my opinion you can still be "in love" and do sex work. There's a lot of different opinions on how "love" and sex work affect each other, but if they were both okay with it I don't think it really matters. I think making assumptions on if she was really "in love" with him or not, just because she was a sex worker, is a little strange. Mark could also have just been okay with it, though to be fair filipino mail order brides are really common and there was most likely some level of that in their relationship. I just don't really think it's fair to assume a dead lady wasn't "in love" because of that. Like she's already dead man, give her a break. Lmao. But yeah you're allowed to think whatcha want, of course. I didn't mean for this comment to come off so accusatory.
@@packers12to80 Homeboy, did you know pornstars still get married? Sex in a job and sex in a relationship are completely different.
Oh my god. I am from the area where the killer is from. A classmate of mine, whom I immediately got bad vibes from, told me a story about his cousin. It went something like this, "Yeah, my cousin joined the marines. He got stationed in the Philippines a few years ago and told me about this tr***y that tricked him so he snapped his fucking neck." Saying all of this while laughing and continuing on to make more horrifically violent transphobic remarks. I was horrified but did not know what to say. I was 17 at the time and being given a hard time by this boy and his group of friends anyway. I didn't want to get jumped (which they threatened to do on multiple occasions) so I just ignored it. Even had I said something to someone, I'm not sure what could have or would have been done. The administration of this school did not discipline students in the slightest for this kind of thing. I didn't know if he was telling the truth at the time but this story has so many similar details that I'm thoroughly convinced that Jennifer Laude is the victim of this kid's cousin. And he bragged about it. It sickens me to this day to think about it.
I don't get why people get hung up about gender, murder is murder.
Never heard of this story and sad she had to go out in such a brutal and disgusting way. Just imagine dying in the dirty water where other people crap. And to hear he got away just seriously hurts to hear for someone whos into law.
Thank you for covering this case and going into detail about exactly why it was committed and why he got off so easily
at least once a year, local Philippine media outlets and LGBTQIA+ communities would remember Jennifer Laude and it's really heartbreaking to see that the majority of the Filipino commenters would laugh and make a joke out of her case saying Pemberton was shocked he saw a penis as if a person's life is a laughing matter and that the situation would warrant a violent death.
dude admitted to dude that he was a dude, so that "excuse" makes no sense.
that same shitass type of commenting are similar in my country indonesia, and Very Recently malaysia got a problem too with the govt i think(?) its political anyways, in conclusion, the c0ps raided the Halloween party just bcuz its a party of mostly queer people in it and not even surprised if the same similar problems is happening too in other SEA countries, we do be in xtremely fuckedup situations sumtimes.
@@stapuft She admitted her gender to her bf, the first guy mentioned. Not this American soldier.
Hey, maybe dont lie to people lol
It obviously doesn't deserve a violent death but the situation does raise questions around the issue of informed consent. If someone doesn't want to engage in sexual contact with a trans person that's their prerogative. You can argue that such a belief is bigoted but if they don't want to have sexual contact with another person for any reason I'm not sure we can tell them they're wrong. On the other hand I can totally understand why trans people wouldn't want to tell someone else they're trans because of the risk of being met with violence in response as illustrated by the murder of Jennifer Laude. It's a conundrum I'm not sure how to deal with.
this is such a difficult case to hear, but genuinely, thank you for sharing it. and thank you & lux for treating jennifer with dignity and respect she deserved in life
When I took criminal law in law school (in the US) we talked about “gay panic” defense to homicide crimes. It’s as you say - basically an excuse not for murder but for supposed “provocation” that legally mitigates/justifies the use of deadly force. It generally reduces non-premeditated murder charges to a lesser crime like voluntary manslaughter.
It absolutely sends a message that somehow a “straight” man suddenly seeing a penis entitles the man to lash out and kill another person. Imagine if all the people who get unsolicited dick pics went and slayed the person who sent them… or if a lesbian were justified in killing a man who tried to kiss her. That would never fly, obviously. But, while on the way out in the US, mostly, the gay panic legal defense defense is still a phenomenon that attorneys need to be aware of - so that prosecutors can know how to shut it down if a defendant attempts to claim it as a defense in a case.
Edit: I graduated in May 2022 - so it was very recent that I took that class.
To me the gay panic defense is as pointless as a crime of passion defense. (Example being finding out your partner cheated on you and then you just decide to murder/assault them soon after). The law imo shouldn't be so lenient towards this and see it for what it is, murder/assault/abuse depending on the situation.
@@hinachan70 is it wrong for a man to dress up as a women and then force lesbians to have sex with them?
@@hinachan70 crime of passion defense has way more weight behind it than "I am scared I am gay now" defense
@@gus29361 Is that relevant? Rape is rape, it doesn't matter if someone is trans. This includes both coercion and physically forcing someone into sex- both are rape.
I ask if it is relevant because this is not what happened in this case, and I have no idea what you're on about other than trying to start an argument. If you want to ask that question, I implore you to a find a murder case wherein the situation you described DID occur. Commenting it here is highly disrespectful.
@@someoneidk308 honestly this is a really great response (and i might take inspiration from it myself), too bad they're not going to read it ):
Trans women struggling to find work and resorting to sex work is unfortunately very common elsewhere too
I hope that man everytime he closes his eyes he's haunted by Jennifer. She was a angel and he is nothing but a awful person.
@@pja6476 Bro has to disrespect someone's pronouns because they don't realise some people can consent to stuff like this.
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Oh i remember this. After all the public outrage and the family's effort to push the case as murder, having Pemberton get Pardon doesn't make any sense.
I mean, it makes sense when the government is lead by an unbeliavbly corrupt fascist who got elected on a platform of murdering thousands of his own citizens including children.
it really doesn't, only an evil person who can themselves do the things the killer did would pardon such an evil act, that's the only explanation because it is something that simply shouldn't have happened
It's politics, foreign politics at that. It's just that simple.
@@packers12to80 and fact that the Philippines has one of the most corrupt justice system. ⚖
@@yeetah42025 exactly. Ppl act like I'm some kind of monster for saying they should have taken the money lol. So now....instead of tne family getting the money the government got themselves some kind of benefit from the US. I'm not a monster just not blind unfortunately to how all of it works.
Jennifer seemed like such a kind soul who was just trying to make a better life for herself and those she loved. This case is so tragic and Pemberton deserves a way harsher punishment.
You never, ever build a "better life" selling ass on the strip.
@@spoons250 realistically selling herself probably paid better than a "traditional job" sadly plus it's known as the world's oldest profession for a reason. She also didn't deserve to lose her life because of her job.
They believe he "acted out of passion" when he drowned a woman in a fucking toilet?
im trans and ive known about Jennifer Laude's story for years, thank you for shedding more light on it. She was such a giving soul and I am so angry at her killer being pardoned in her own home country. I hate that these men take their insecurities out on trans women so violently. It's so sad seeing pictures of her happy with Mark, who didn't seem to be afraid to show off his beautiful and kind trans girlfriend. I've heard from another trans woman that every partner of someone who is trans is just as special as the trans person they're with, and I can attest to this from my own boyfriend. I can't imagine what Jennifer's family and Mark must have felt and continue to feel... Cases with LGBT victims and survivors don't get covered much in true-crime videos on RUclips so again thank you
@@pja6476 sorry I'm taken by someone whom I love and who loves me. Maybe you'll find love someday :)
Lol its the danger. I would snap too if i unknowing pay a trap.
It is a trap not a girl. You got a dick u not a girl. Simple as that.
❤️🏳️⚧️
@@averyanahi yess don't listen to their sad bigot bs!! lots of good wishes for u and ur partner
@@persephoenix thank you so much, best wishes to you as well
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The fact that her family would rather see justice than to receive life changing money for an impoverished family just to agree to seeking a lessor charge, tells me all I need to know that she was a good person from a good family, and she should have had true justice her death. I feel so bad for her family.
The sister demanded to have a green card so..
This is so messed up. She was so close to getting her happy ending and for him not to get justice is just so enraging. I can't imagine the anger her loved ones must be feeling.
Wow, a person who decided to make their living by violence turn out to be a killer. Who would've guessed.
The guy looks nearly identical to my incredibly abusive ex.
It's chilling to see.
I'm so heartbroken for her family and the man who loved her
She was so beautiful and he looks like a lizard person. This shit is why I could never entertain a relationship with a military man, you have no idea what they are doing overseas and this shit is so common. If it isn't a local woman it's one of their own military women.
Yeah every white guy looks like you're ex, that's number one red flag all you're exs are toxic, bad, and abusive lol.
He looks chillingly similar to an abusive person who used to be friends with my partner, too. Luckily after several run ins with this guy, my partner isn’t friends w him anymore. He used to want to be in the military JUST so he could shoot at people. I told my partner if that’s someone he wants to be friends w he can stay tf away from me and he realized people like that are not worth risking hanging out with, even if without them you have no friends.
You're a soulless reject trying to tie visual aids to a very serious issue. That's how eugenics worked. You can't even think critically like a normal adult. I can almost guarantee that you deserved the abuse. Being that broken is a character issue, it's not an isolated thing
I'm not sure if you take video requests, but I have a few topics I would love to see you cover! I'm from Minnesota and three outstanding cases here are the missing Klein brothers, the disappearance of Hung Lee, and of course the famous Jacob Wetterling case. If you did a video on any of these I would be so stoked
It boggles me that in the US, you can go to jail for a month just because you didn't bring a driver's license, but the same country is pleading to another country to release one of their people who commited a heinous crime. It's just so infuriating and disgusting that they can bring him back while bribing the victim's family with half a million bucks.
He drowned her. He forced her head into a toilet bowl and he drowned her. Gender, sexuality, sex, what have you, should have NO bearing on murder charges. This woman, this PERSON, had her head forced into a bowl of water people piss and shit in and she died because of it. That's one of the most horrific fates I can think of. It's disgusting we let people get away with shit like this just because the victim isn't in the conservatives rigid view of "normal".
the trans panic defense terrified me out of dating for a while. i didnt get physically close to someone until they knew i was trans and i knew they were safe. hookups essentially were not an option for me.
I remember overhearing a woman in Flagstaff, Arizona telling a story about an ex of hers with an facescious tone as if complaining about whacky things an ex did, except as I accidentally tuned in as she described this ex calling her frantically telling her that he had just killed somebody she had described as "a transvestite prostitute" that he thinks he'd just killed, that he had just drowned her in the toilet after discovering that she was a "man," that the guy had begged her not to leave him after saying that and she told him she wouldn't, that Fillipinos were protesting again him. I pieced together that this whacky-toned story she was telling was actually the murder of Jennifer Laude, and was just so disgusted at how casually she could tell somebody that story at a bar, also in a way that was putting blame on Jennifer, and just. It's so disgusting, all the levels of dehumanization that happen to make a conversation like that possible, same shit that makes it possible for her to blame Jennifer is the same shit that made it possible for him to kill her in the first place. It's so sick that that mentality is so normal! The dehumanization of trans women, sex workers, and people in occupied countries is so intense, it's freaking psychopathic, yet its also such a big chunk of the public that participates in it, like it's the ordinary fucking American way to think or something
Americans feel it is wrong to lie about your genitals to people who want to have sex with you. Most Americans don't believe that people who lie about that should be killed because of it but they definitely wouldn't be happy. Trans women aren't women, they are men playing dress up. I can call myself whatever I want but it doesn't make me that. Kinda stupid if you think about it, nothing means anything if this is the case. Am I black? Am I a women? Answer: if I want to be
@@gus29361 a very not-psychopathic response to this detailed video about a real person’s murder
@@RachelTheAnarchist I think the psychopathic response is to say that everyone must behave the same, act the same, and believe the same things. I'm capable of putting myself into someone else's shoes and viewing a situation outside of a framed viewpoint. I understand why someone who believes that they are Trans would be nervous about revealing that. I can also put myself in the shoes of the dude who wasn't expecting anything to dangle downstairs and how that would make you feel. If you want to remember that straight people have feelings and beliefs too you might realize that you are acting psychotic by saying that the murder victim did nothing wrong. They didn't deserve to die no doubt. They did put into motion the events that would lead to their death in one way or another, most people do. It would repulse me as a straight man if a woman I was interested in had a penis and I found out right before we had sex. Most lesbians would too I imagine
@@pja6476 honestly I'm okay with that.
@@gus29361 they just don't get it. they expect people to just be cool with things like this. they can't for the life of them understand that some people want a biological man/woman, not a trans. i agree that the person shouldn't be hurt and especially not kill but i'd be lying if i said i don't understand the anger of the person.
I actually started tearing up picturing her sister and friend coming in to identify her. this case is so heartbreaking
Thank you for making a video about this and bringing more attention to this! RIP Jennifer
Jennifer’s life was only just beginning. I have absolute respect for her family for pursuing justice despite financial hardship. The things that US service people are able to get away with while the military and government turn a blind eye is absolutely vile.
Could you maybe talk about the murder of Alexa? She was a puertorrican trans woman. I don’t hear enough about this case and it surprises me due to there being actual video proof of the guy killing her and I would love to see someone spread awareness on the case. ❤
We've heard enough of this rainbow shit tonight.
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Be a man, Edgar, for once and for all!
@@loveforeignaccents I get that you're probably trolling but I genuinely want to know how you watched this video, a completely matter-of-fact recounting of a woman's brutal murder, and came to the conclusion that it was "rainbow shit"
She was about to be so happy with her fiancé. This is absolutely heartbreaking.
You mean the guy "she" cheated on
@@k_shak993 that's not how quotation marks work 💀💀
@@autistic_dino I don't think you get what I'm implying you re re
Cheater
Disgusting beyond any words. To think how US citizens cheer for their military around the world while this is what they’re doing…. Shameful. There’s no words to express how sad and horrifying this is
Thank you for shedding light on this horrible case. As a trans woman, I often fear for my sisters or even myself. I hope that one day we can all live the lives we deserve.
horrific case. thank you so much for covering it as lgbt+ victims dont often get spotlighted in videos like this!
What about her husband? The betrayal and loss compounding?
It baffles me that someone's first reaction to finding out a girl is a transgender girl is violence. What a mad world we live in.
just read some of the bullshit comments excusing the murderer or praising him. some people are fucked up.
What do you expect? The violence came from a man who likely thought his own masculinity was at stake. Such fragile egos.
@@-._.-KRiS-._.- Yeah, that is exactly what baffles me. I cannot imagine feeling so threatened that all that is left is to just kill. It is entirely beyond me, to be honest. I understand what happened (or what most likely happened, I suppose), but I still find it... Bizarre.
@Angela That's fucking wild. I am a guy myself, to answer that question... i don't know, it is a complicated thing for sure. Yes, men have egos that get hurt quickly and easily, and violence often is the way many react. At the same time there are a lot of strange expectations of men as well which contribute to that - there sure is a hell of a lot to win in that area.
I could see why it could surprise them initially - but to just start beating someone, that is seriously fucked up. Probably more going on than him being some "random dude", one would hope.
I'll say it again. People can say "I'm against murder but blah blah blah" are part of the problem
finally a case where the parents care about their child. no matter their gender and sexuality, thats still your kid
big thanks to everyone in this comment section who is being supportive and kind. please take the time to report any comments you see that praise the murderer. "this person didn't mention their bio sex so they deserve to be killed" is objectively a bad opinion and should be rightfully shamed. let's take care of each other and especially our trans sisters who deal with so much shit.
Holy shit, THANK YOU SO MUCH for acknowledging U.S. military violence against Okinawans! This does not get enough coverage outside of Okinawa and the islands remain powerless while its own national government forced yet another U.S. base to be built there, despite opposition from the prefectural government and locals.
I'm so sick of my people getting killed and the killers getting away with it.
Jennifer and her husband were supposed to get married. They were supposed to live together in her husband's home country after that. Had you seen the footage of him by the gate of the camp where they kept Pemberton, you could see how angry he way to the point he pushed the military away just to get in. It's painful to see someone so distraught.
Why was Jennifer still having sex with others if she was going to get married? Difference in cultures?
@@-._.-KRiS-._.- to what I remember, she was in the red light district business. No judgement there btw.
As a transgender man, I'm in chock. Philipins were always presented to me as a safe place. Now I learned some more, thank you ReignBot. Jennifer was a real beauty. I can't take my eyes off her photos. And so resilient for what she had to go through. She deserves some fckin justice, god damn it... how could people get away with her death??
The justice system in the Philippines is unfortunately very corrupt. Criminal cases are pushed aside especially if the perpetrators have connection to the government or they are filthy rich.
Your a woman ma'am
@@cheesething5564 ooh noo ahh I'm so offended ooh
@@cheesething5564 and your a fucking cheese thing ??
Speaking on the “Gay/Trans Panic Defense” - it’s still a recognized legal defense in 35 states in the US.
In May of 2022, an ex football player of Virginia Tech, named Isimemen Etute was _found NOT GUILTY of 2nd degree murder of Jerry Smith, a gay man who Etute stupidly mistaken for a woman on Jerry’s Tinder profile._
I swear, as a transgender person myself, EVERY TIME I bring up the fact that the gay/trans panic defense is legal in an overwhelming majority of states throughout the country I live in, I hear nothing but silence. There are too many people who don’t realize you can literally get away with murdering us. It’s absolutely terrifying.
thank you for sharing this story. it is absolutely horrific what happened to her.
i appreciate you talking about the violence that trans people, especially trans women, face. im a trans man and ive been very nervous about the way that things have been going in the us. i hope that people can realize that we're just trying to live as our true selves.
hey nice name haha my name is oliver wilson. i hope you can be confident and happy to be yourself and dont face any harsh criticism or anything just for being you. all the best with everything. sorry i cant help any more than just sending words over the internet.
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Don't be nervous lmao. Only thing you have to do is be honest. If you lie, you get what's coming to you
@@fronthal157 why is this funny to you? Because there’s nothing funny about the incredibly high murder rates of transgender people.
@@loopooillohg yoo a fellow ollie lol!! and thank you for the kind words!! ive been slowly getting better with loving myself and taking steps towards my goals :))
Thank you for covering this crime, she deserves to have her story told and be remembered. The crimes of the US military need to be brought to light so thank you for doing the research and reporting on it for us.
As a transmasc person, it means a lot to me that you and your team treat Jennifer and her case with the respect and dignity she deserved. Trans women of color often fail to get even that kind of media attention here in the U.S., and similarly often don't get justice. It's an extremely painful reality, and the fact that you seem just as upset about what was done to Jennifer as you might for any other victim helps any trans viewer, like me, feel like someone out there cares. I don't know if anyone on the team is trans, and frankly, it doesn't really matter to me, because your work on this story speaks for itself.
@Productive Centaur sometimes its just another word for trans man other times its for non binary people who present masculine
@Productive Centaur @Polygonyall is correct! It's a sort of umbrella term; I prefer to use it instead of calling myself a trans man because my experience of my gender is more complicated than just being a guy, so transmasc is usually my default when I want to be specific re: the direction of my transition. I thought it would be appropriate here because as someone who isn't a trans woman, my relationship to Jennifer's case is different than a trans woman's would be, and I wanted my perspective to be clearly communicated.
Does that help? Genuinely not trying to talk down or be pretentious, I'm just autistic and very concerned with accurately communicating what I mean, so I get really granular sometimes.
She sounds like she was such a lovely person, her mother too. God bless her.
@@pja6476 She.
@@pja6476 She just is. How is anyone a she in any way or form?
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1. So women who can't give birth are not women? What about intersex women who have female genitalia but their male chromosomes stop them from giving birth?
2. What about women who do not have most of the biology? Transwomen have the same hormones that ciswomen have, they just don't have the genitalia.
3. Women can and are "total freaks", that isn't a good argument either.
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Intersex people are as rare as ginger people are. The exceptions are vital to reflect on your definitions. If you don't take them into consideration, your definition is flawed.
Nobody is claiming transwomen to be ciswomen. We call them transwomen for a reason. Because they are not genetically women. Transwomen can also have functional vaginas, so I'd probably drop "needs female genitalia" from the definition in your position.
@@maschaorsomething there are only two genders, educate yourself
Poor girl, so warm hearted and helpful to her community - and SO beautiful!
Thank you for covering this the way you did. Crimes like this need more visibility to hopefully someday achieve accountability by the people calling the shots and making policy.
What a gross miscarriage of justice. Absolutely infuriating. Blows my mind that there are people who genuinely believe being openly or even secretly LGBTQ+ isn’t scary and potentially dangerous. No one should have to fear being true to who they are. Rest In Peace, Jennifer.
It’s not lgbtq it’s murder and it’s poor life choices on both the assailant and the victim. Murder happens in the world outside of your micro world
Joseph Scott Pemberton served only 6 years in prison for murdering someone. This world is fucked.
Thank you for talking about this one, r*pe culture, violence against women, and transphobia is very prevalent in the military still today.
My best friend got trafficked to Korea. She got out and she’s one of the most successful women I know. She did not give up and fought hard to get her life back. She now an advocate and help countless of women.
It take a long time to drown someone till their death. There’s way too much time for your “panic” to subside by that point.
The video did not mention the fact that the police found a used condom inside a trash can in the bathroom were Jennifer was killed.
@@yeetah42025 I had a feeling the video wasn't giving the full story ffs man why are youtubers like this?
@@yeetah42025 Yes. It did. It mentioned the 2 used open condoms found. One with mouth residue, and one unused. Meaning, she blew him, then they opened up another for sex. Meaning, she probably blew him, then revealed she was trans.
This is a disgrace! This makes me so mad how corrupt our country is!!
I'm trans. Thank you for covering this case. Rest In Power Jennifer x
This is obviously an example of the ridiculous justice system here in the Philippines. Thank you for bringing this up again. I am sharing this to my gay friends.
That's so terrible and disgusting, no one should have to be scared of being open about their sexuality etc, and no one should have to die for it 😞
Such a wonderful human being that she was both on the inside and outside, it doesn't matter what your sexuality or gender etc u identify as, you shouldn't have to be scared of getting hurt or killed for something trivial like that, let the LGBTQ+ be, no one asked u to associate with them if there's not your preference but u don't hurt someone for it 😞
R.i.p Jennifer 💖
TBH, if I found out my fiancé wasn’t born a man, but was trans, it would change nothing in my eyes as I fell in love with him as a person, but I can understand how it may break a lot of trust or upset someone else if their relationship becomes serious and their partner isn’t honest with them before they become intimate. I don’t know as it is such a touchy subject now a days and again, I don’t see why the sexual organs a person has should make any difference as to your love for them as a human being, but I can at least kind of understand that others may feel differently then I do.
My friend has a similar experience with a trans person. They told me that they met together at a gaming community after their now partner and very close friend messaged them by accident. They had long talks with one another but he had a sneaking suspicion that the person they were talking to wasn't all that they seem to be judging from the tone of their voice when she spoke up in a voice chat they had. Months after that and they became boyfriend and girlfriend, he popped the question to her about his suspicions and she reluctantly confirmed that she is trans. He told me that he wasn't surprised and not at all disappointed with that knowledge as he had his suspicions before. Adding that nobody else has made him feel the way he felt being with her even compared to his past relationships with actual women. I find that really sweet. They're still going strong to this day.
As a trans woman myself, I want to thank you so much for making this video, Reign. Violence against trans women is a topic not often shared and it's something that really needs more awareness, especially in a world with so much stigma and transphobia.
You are a man
@@cheesething5564 and Reign would probably tell you to keep things respectful and to respect people's gender identity. You are definitely not in the right community if you want to be a transphobe.
@@RedPaganNetwork and humanity isn't the right community for you if you want to live in delusion
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Out of the thousand people every trans woman has heard tell them that, you're gonna be the one to change their minds, right?
@@RedPaganNetwork ywnbaw
rest in peace, ganda. may the world one day know trans liberation and trans thriving ❤
Yeah that whole reaction to finding out someone's gender or sexuality is not a good defense; in fact that makes it a hate crime; and the fact that the US military can throw its weight around to get one of their own off for a crime he clearly committed is disgusting.
Yea. She forced her sexuality and denied him informed consent. Imagine you showed up to a encounter expecting the feather and silk treatment, and they pulled out the 12 inch ribbed dildo, and the encounter had already started. You telling me you arnt going to fight? get real.
@@spoons250 She didn't force her sexuality on anyone, her sexuality just existed. You are part of the problem; and victim blaming is a very shitty thing to do.
Thank you for bringing light to this story… such an unfortunate event
im from the us, and even i agree this was a disgrace. he should have gotten far more time for what he did. murder is murder. there is no excuse for that. she was a lovely young woman who didnt deserve to die. may she rest in peace
Great video! Horrifying topic.
I have a lot of family over in Manila, and i remember hearing about this when the case first broke.
This kinda shits been going on since the Filipino-American war and it's disgusting
Honesty is the Best Policy...
dude. how's the german guy who was supposed to marry jennifer?
this is just sad.
He's a moron, he decided to get engaged to a prostitute, and he even got arrested for trying to act like a hero and pushed a military personnel to the ground. She cheated on him.
This case upsets me so much 😢R.I.P Jennifer, may your soul Rest In Peace
i literlaly dont understand how someone can look at themselves in the mirror after committing crimes like this. especially the 3 soldiers who kidnapped the 12 year old girl, how can you look at yourself and not hate yourself.
This is so sad. Breaks my heart to hear her story. Fr
If she's afraid of violence she should have just told people up front, at the very beginning of her orientation
Nobody is entitled to your medical records
@@bootyholebandit2905 you’re wrong. You don’t have to share medical records with anyone. That’s private information.
@@bootyholebandit2905 you’re justifying murder. Get a life
This is embarrassing and angering. How anything more than manslaughter is met with anything less than death, I'll never understand.
Solid content as always!…just curious…how is this video performing? The view count seems okay, but wondering if this is getting suppressed unexpectedly. I saw this pop up yesterday on my home page (notifications turned on) and it hasn’t popped up since. I had to actually do a search to find this video today.
People like Pemberton are why I keep pepper spray and a knife hidden on myself at all times. Anyone who thinks murdering someone and saying being scared of their gender is a justification deserve to be put in these situations. To experience what Jennifer and the rest of us in the trans community experience. And see if that treatment changes your worldview once it's you on the chopping block. When it's you being blamed for your own murder. For your own assault. Being told that the death of trans people is a service because we are just mentally diseased anyways. Rest in peace Jennifer. I never knew you in life, but I know that you deserved to finish your life. Our community won't forget you.
WTF... Nothing excuses a sudden "loss of control". If Pamberton gets startled easily and looses control over himself like an animal he should be kept in a cage like an animal to protect others from him!
There is stigma around alot of things that creates a bias against people and leads to them not being treated poorly
It seems to me that people will always see a man who murders a sex worker as a monster. Unless the sex worker was trans. Then people seem perfectly justified saying "I'm not excusing murder but..." and expect to come off completely reasonable, non-problematic and not a psychopath at all. They get called out and can blame it on "political correctness," completely oblivious to what they're actually saying about themselves and the world that shaped them. I don't care what information you feel entitled to before getting a room with someone. I actually don't. Your views on this are completely irrelevant. There was nothing in this murder to sympathize with and nothing good will come from mansplaining a monster.
No one ever says "you're patronizing a sex worker in the Phillipines - what did YOU expect?"
It always falls on the person they killed.
Think about your priorities here.
Think about the complexities of the life they took. Why someone would not disclose. Do you think people like living in the closet? For that matter, how many sex workers do you think want to be sex workers in the first place?
No one ever stops to consider they are getting a one sided account. The side of a murderer. The other side is dead.
No one considers that there are vocal homophobes who become bisexual behind closed doors.
No one considers she was a sex worker and he was a marine.
No one considers that perhaps he was acting not out of concern for his personal safety but his image.
No one asks if she was entitled to know whether she was going off alone with a man who was potentially unhinged and violent.
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I really like that you covered this. Thank you so much!
this is such a devastating case, but unfortunately just one of many; men not being comfortable in their own sexuality and resorting to violence because they were “tricked”. jennifer had such a promising life ahead of her, may she rests in peace.
That's right. No one would judge soldier boy for not wishing to continue a sexual encounter with this person, he could've just told her so (or maybe just ran away screaming cause he was supposedly so SHOCKED 😱)
But no, this was some sort of grave insult to his manhood and he had to *kIcK sUm AsS!* or whatever. That's not being badass, that's just being a violent reactionary asshole.
thank you for discussing trans people and identity so respectfully 🏳️⚧️
She didn't deserve this this makes me sick
We definitely don’t get nearly enough ReignBot in our lives.
I miss you Reignbot!! Great video as usual!
Thank you so much for bringing light to this case.. I never forgot and i'll never forget. Justice for her and all trans people!
*him, and maybe tell trans people not to lie
@@fronthal157 You seem to be very invested on this, as we can see in the comments here. Just remember that it’s always the “aggressive” men that are the ones attracted to other men. We really feel sorry for you, get well retard.
@@fronthal157 they wouldn’t have to hide if people like you didn’t have a murder itch. Y’all always have an excuse for murderers and bigots. Do better. It’s so easy not to kill people, literally.
@@ashlee7859 nah I'm not on the market. If I was, I'd be rightly pissed if someone lied to my face for their own gratification. Not that I'd be fooled by the man face. Don't know how this idiot did
@@fronthal157 you're not wanted here
People don’t talk enough about crimes committed by US servicemen in other countries. The real number of atrocities would turn your stomach.
It would. It also wouldn't surprise me.