Thanks for the in depth tutorial. My pool liner started going bad last March 2023, Just bought the home in May 2022. Glad to find this video. I know its not easy work at all, but youve gained a subscriber here.
Great video! I do not see any of the items you said you will put in the description. Am I missing something? I would love to know about the lights you used here. Thank you!
Thoughts on what to do if there is a leak around stair trim? Do you add a waterproof caulk or would you drill in and add screws to that trim? It seems maybe a few of the screws backing is stripped and maybe needs a new screw. This is in a new liner but 3rd liner overall I’m wondering if those screw holes are not tight to the screw threads now
Thank you for the awesome videos!! What type of liner coping do you use and also how do you anchor it to the ICF? What do you think about doing radiant hydronic heat in the floor of the pool? Thanks again for the great videos
Hey thanks so much for the info and great video. What kind of glue do you use for the foam on the floor and what glue and tape for styrene sheets. Do you space sheets or overlap.
What do you do if the track on an inground pool is eat up in a lot of areas. Basically almost half of my pool track is not useable. Can the track be replaced? How do you fix it?
Amazing video. Have been looking for a video that went into this much detail about the liner. Do you have another video on pouring/ setting the coping? Do you sell these as a DIY kit?
Would love to see a video about how to measure for the liner, especially if you have stairs and a ledge! It doesn’t seem as straight forward as the order form seems!!
Hey Aaron, I love your videos and have watched pretty much all of them. The only thing I can't figure out is the best way to attach the liner coping to the ICF. How do you do it? Thanks
Do you use radius corner blocks or 90's? We will be installing the liner in our first ICF liner pool mid-September. On this pool, we used radius corners because we were under the impression that he liner would install better. Getting radius corners is more expensive than 90's so wondering if its necessary.
You can do hard 90’s, 6”, 12”, or 24” radii commonly for vinyl liners, for 6” you simply use normal 90’s and they sell you a foam chamfer strip that backs the liner a bit!
My eyes went right to that as well and that would not fly with me either. ironically he mentions to be carful with the cuts cause you don't wanna have to buy a new liner at your expense for botching the install. right when those first cuts and the screws went in around the perimeter of the stairs the liner was botched right than and there cause the border is crooked and slopes down . it was not pulled taunt enough in the void of the stairs where there is no where to hook the bead and he did catch it. if this was my pool I would be demanding a new liner be ordered asap. and would be livid knowing how long I need to wait again for the new to be made and delivered
Local 417! Love it. Quick question...assuming vinyl and these type stairs are a little more budget friendly on the front end. Is starting with a vinyl liner on an ICF pool and then 7-10 years later transitioning to a more permant/solid finish doable? EcoFinish, gunite, etc. We're 100% doing one of these next year and thinking of doing vinyl on the front end to save some money early on... PRAY some of your kits are ready soon! We've used Rost before too...good folks!
The liner tracks either come bent or notched, then we usually use a foam chamfer strip but like everything else they are out of stock so we used mortar and a 4” elbow to shape it lol, then covered it with liner foam, worked well but the chamfer is easier, ready for shortages to be rare again!
Hello, do you have any videos or insight on how to install the liner track successfully on an ICF pool? This is my first one so any advice would be helpful. Keep up the videos they are awesome
Is there better skimmers and returns that work better with icf walls than others? I'm planning on building one in the next year or 2. Love your videos!
Could the bottom of the pool be made of 4 inches of structural polystyrene? Followed by the liner on top. I'm trying to avoid the cost of a concrete bottom.
Lol. I see your point. I was going to go with a sand or grout bottom. With polystyrene under the sand. But someone mentioned to me that I don't need sand or grout on top of the polystyrene. Is this correct?
no but polystyrene or xps is definitely cheaper than concrete and the labor to install concrete. plus you wouldn't need skilled labor to lay foam slabs down. Michelle, you would probably need those poly sheets that he put on the icf walls to prevent impact damage.
It’s significantly different, not just the finish, the structure of the pool needs to be far more robust for ecofinish, a monopour icf shell, Gunite she’ll or fiberglass shell is necessary, vinyl liners can hold up with far less structure as the liner itself does the work…. So it’s usually at least double the cost all told
Whatever I can get. I like .040 because it’s decently thick but I can cut with good Scissors, it’s not always in stock snd I’ve used anything from .030 to .063 all to good effect
National average for a liner replacement is liner cost x2.5, I don’t make the market…. It used to be 3x but liners went up significantly over the past couple years and the multiple didn’t keep up
@@all3pools very cool. how much u thinking ball park for a 18x36 with deep end and fiberglass steps, icf panel pool with liner. just a ballpark so i know. I thought about trying to do a cinder block pool with a poured floor bottom . then spraying the walls in polyurea
This kills me to watch. I just did a liner in 5 hrs today and you made so many mistakes its kills me.. what did you charge thesebpoor people.. all the foam is a joke
Is it normal for them to use two gaskets? I thought drain and skimmer gaskets were sold in pairs as a kit? When I took out my old liner I noticed the gasket was behind the liner only and not doubled up.
Thanks for the in depth tutorial. My pool liner started going bad last March 2023, Just bought the home in May 2022. Glad to find this video. I know its not easy work at all, but youve gained a subscriber here.
Great video! Thanks... I'm not sure I've seen anyone else do the level of close ups you provided. Very good instruction!
The pool looks great! Thanks a lot for the video. You are definitely inspiring me to get a project going.
Great video! I do not see any of the items you said you will put in the description. Am I missing something? I would love to know about the lights you used here. Thank you!
I built an icf house last year and plan on building a pool the same size as this thanks for the info
Did you build it? How'd it go for you?
You are very good at what you do.
You give a lot of great info on your videos too !!
Thanks!
Aaron youre just a badass. Really appreciate you taking the time.
Thanks:)
Rather impressed with your content.
Simple steps and great tips.
Like your honesty.
Cheers from Oz
Thank you!
22:55 the liner looks like a dips at the stair.
This was a great video! I’m learning to build pools myself. Any pro tips on how to break into the pool building world?
We help people do that every day:). Reach out to our team at all3pools.com
thanks for the great video, do you have any links to where you purchased the equipment, liner etc?
Appreciate it very much. Thinking on building pool ourselves
Go for it!
Thank you for making this video. Your close ups and detailed instructions are awesome. Can't wait to get out new pool build underway.
Thoughts on what to do if there is a leak around stair trim? Do you add a waterproof caulk or would you drill in and add screws to that trim? It seems maybe a few of the screws backing is stripped and maybe needs a new screw. This is in a new liner but 3rd liner overall I’m wondering if those screw holes are not tight to the screw threads now
New screw on each side of stripped one
Thank you for the awesome videos!! What type of liner coping do you use and also how do you anchor it to the ICF? What do you think about doing radiant hydronic heat in the floor of the pool?
Thanks again for the great videos
Awesome video! Just what I needed to reference as I go DIY this week installing my own! Wish me good luck! Thanks
Good luck!
Where can I find link of products? Specifically looking for those LED micro lights. Thanks!
Hey thanks so much for the info and great video. What kind of glue do you use for the foam on the floor and what glue and tape for styrene sheets. Do you space sheets or overlap.
Overlap the sheets, go to all3pools.com for any products u need
Darn I wish you showed it with the lights on. that's all right, good job
Where are all the links you mentioned you'd put in the description?
Awesome job keep up the good work
Thanks!
What do you do if the track on an inground pool is eat up in a lot of areas. Basically almost half of my pool track is not useable. Can the track be replaced? How do you fix it?
It can be replaced, not fun but necessary on a lot of older pools
Question i was looking for
Amazing video. Have been looking for a video that went into this much detail about the liner. Do you have another video on pouring/ setting the coping? Do you sell these as a DIY kit?
We do sell kits. All3pools.com
Would love to see a video about how to measure for the liner, especially if you have stairs and a ledge! It doesn’t seem as straight forward as the order form seems!!
Where are the product links you mention throughout the video?
Hello great info I know I saw before but could you put links to supplies?
Thanks
This was a fantastic video
Thanks!
Hey Aaron, I love your videos and have watched pretty much all of them. The only thing I can't figure out is the best way to attach the liner coping to the ICF. How do you do it? Thanks
What was the spray adhesive you used on the floor foam roll outs?
It’s made by 3m, I’ll have to get u the actual formula
Great job but you did not show some details how lights wiring was found and how the liner was aligned perfectly?
Do you use radius corner blocks or 90's? We will be installing the liner in our first ICF liner pool mid-September. On this pool, we used radius corners because we were under the impression that he liner would install better. Getting radius corners is more expensive than 90's so wondering if its necessary.
You can do hard 90’s, 6”, 12”, or 24” radii commonly for vinyl liners, for 6” you simply use normal 90’s and they sell you a foam chamfer strip that backs the liner a bit!
Do you guys service NJ?
The liner in not straight at the stairs. That would not be okay if it was my pool.
Does it fix itself when all the water get into the pool?
My eyes went right to that as well and that would not fly with me either. ironically he mentions to be carful with the cuts cause you don't wanna have to buy a new liner at your expense for botching the install. right when those first cuts and the screws went in around the perimeter of the stairs the liner was botched right than and there cause the border is crooked and slopes down . it was not pulled taunt enough in the void of the stairs where there is no where to hook the bead and he did catch it. if this was my pool I would be demanding a new liner be ordered asap. and would be livid knowing how long I need to wait again for the new to be made and delivered
Local 417! Love it. Quick question...assuming vinyl and these type stairs are a little more budget friendly on the front end. Is starting with a vinyl liner on an ICF pool and then 7-10 years later transitioning to a more permant/solid finish doable? EcoFinish, gunite, etc. We're 100% doing one of these next year and thinking of doing vinyl on the front end to save some money early on... PRAY some of your kits are ready soon! We've used Rost before too...good folks!
Good question.
Fantastic work. Thanks
Thanks!
Do you have the links yet?
Great videos! I see you put a small radius in the corners of this one. What did you use for that?
The liner tracks either come bent or notched, then we usually use a foam chamfer strip but like everything else they are out of stock so we used mortar and a 4” elbow to shape it lol, then covered it with liner foam, worked well but the chamfer is easier, ready for shortages to be rare again!
Aaron what liner track system do you recommend for the ICF? Thanks
Why wait until there's water when adding the main drain? To ensure the liner is taut?
Yes
Thank you very much, sincerely appreciated!
GREAT video!
Great job!
Hello, do you have any videos or insight on how to install the liner track successfully on an ICF pool? This is my first one so any advice would be helpful. Keep up the videos they are awesome
Literally use liquid nails foam glue!
I think he was referring to the coping bead along the top!
Is there better skimmers and returns that work better with icf walls than others? I'm planning on building one in the next year or 2. Love your videos!
Check out Paramount venturi skimmers. They're a return and skimmer in one unit. Less cuts, less holes, less work.
Could the bottom of the pool be made of 4 inches of structural polystyrene? Followed by the liner on top.
I'm trying to avoid the cost of a concrete bottom.
Is the foam free to u? If not I can’t see how it would be cheaper
Lol. I see your point. I was going to go with a sand or grout bottom. With polystyrene under the sand. But someone mentioned to me that I don't need sand or grout on top of the polystyrene. Is this correct?
no but polystyrene or xps is definitely cheaper than concrete and the labor to install concrete. plus you wouldn't need skilled labor to lay foam slabs down. Michelle, you would probably need those poly sheets that he put on the icf walls to prevent impact damage.
Could you add the links? Love your video.
Will do tonight, had major issues getting this one uploaded…
What is the price comparison between a vinyl liner vs an Eco coating? ( apologize if I misused Eco term)
It’s significantly different, not just the finish, the structure of the pool needs to be far more robust for ecofinish, a monopour icf shell, Gunite she’ll or fiberglass shell is necessary, vinyl liners can hold up with far less structure as the liner itself does the work…. So it’s usually at least double the cost all told
@@all3pools To clarify, which is twice the cost, ecofinish or vinyl liner? Why would one want a pool at twice the cost vs the other?
What thickness of styrene are you using on the walls?
Whatever I can get. I like .040 because it’s decently thick but I can cut with good Scissors, it’s not always in stock snd I’ve used anything from .030 to .063 all to good effect
Great video! Not sure why it cost 4000$ in labor for a new liner.
National average for a liner replacement is liner cost x2.5, I don’t make the market…. It used to be 3x but liners went up significantly over the past couple years and the multiple didn’t keep up
How much would a pool like this cost if it was diy?
Low 20’s
Does that price include all mechanical and electrical?
There is a way easier method to do those steps where you wont get pattern sag at the top.
Whats the method if you don't mind
wanna come build my pool? northern illinois
Little far for me, but I’m getting ready to train a guy out of chicago…
@@all3pools very cool. how much u thinking ball park for a 18x36 with deep end and fiberglass steps, icf panel pool with liner. just a ballpark so i know. I thought about trying to do a cinder block pool with a poured floor bottom . then spraying the walls in polyurea
Is this a professional job? I have a few critiques and don't want to blast it out for everyone. But this is not good to teach people....
Every question I had is answered in this video.
This kills me to watch. I just did a liner in 5 hrs today and you made so many mistakes its kills me.. what did you charge thesebpoor people.. all the foam is a joke
At 8 lbs plus a gallon you think that foam does anything hahahahaha. Only evef seen liners with foam have issues do tp foam folding with ground water.
Also your gasket approach is severely wrong
This just garbage this has to be killing your business costs. Why do you need 6 people and it days i could do this pool twice in one day by myself
Is it normal for them to use two gaskets? I thought drain and skimmer gaskets were sold in pairs as a kit? When I took out my old liner I noticed the gasket was behind the liner only and not doubled up.
@@matf3337so dont put foam on the bottom or in stairs?