Catalina, already stunning with grace and beauty. Now she's a queen. Too bad she couldn't end her career on a high note in Rio. She's such a strong athlete and came twice out of retirement to help her country.
Man, Catalina Ponor has always been absolutely breathtaking. She had a similar build and upper back flexibility to Svetlana Boginskaya which lent them both a similar exoticism when performing.
They didn't do that this year. Really takes away from the drama and buildup. Now they just flat out switch from swimming straight up to Gymnastics, go to the venue, and the routines start. You don't have time to really build up a story or get into it before it's already well under way.
+Michel Schweinsberg I agree they could have done way better. NBC had so many commercials and other stuff it takes away from the countries individual stories
I loved it too... But man, i just can't stop chuckling at the little digs the NBC announcers just can't seem to resist making towards the Russians, ya know, with their "Tempermental Queen & Aging Coach." With more recent years it has been constant comments about how Russian gymnasts have "lost so much of beauty & their artistry" & all the descriptions of Aliyah Mustafina's personality being "very 'strong & unique ' " & saying how she's "a diva." (Oh just come out & say what u mean already!! you're saying she's a bitch, lol) Real cute guys....
As much as I love Russian gymnasts, it always bugged me how they say "for over 50 years the RUSSIANS have set the standard for excellence" instead of Soviets... many of the top performing gymnasts in those days weren't Russian...two of the previous Olympic Champions were from Ukraine. The Unified team in 1992 had Tatiana Gutsu(Ukraine)Tatiana Lysenko(Ukraine)Svetlana Boginskaya(Belarus)Roza Galieva(Uzbekistan)Oksana Chusovitina(Uzbekistan). They were one of the strongest teams in history.
At the time of the 1992 olympic games, Chusovitina was from Uzbekistan. She later moved to Germany to get treatments for her son who had leukemia. Because of the generosity that she received she eventually decided to represent Germany at the olympics. The first olympics that Chusovitina represented Germany was the 2008 Beijing games. She was on the unified team in 1992 and represented Uzbekistan at the 1996 Atlanta games, 2000 Sydney games, and 2004 Athens games.
back then, each skill you performed had a value and all your skills would add up to your starting vaule with max of 10.0 then the judges would then take there deductions from there, so if your start value was a 9.8 for ex, then if its perfect max score would be 9.8 now, witht the A and B scores all your skills add up to a value like 6.1 for ex. then the execution judges then take deductions from 10.0 then add in the 6.1 so if done perfectly your score would be a 16.1
people started remembering the gymnastics olympics from 2008. if you ask, “did you see the 2004 gymnastics olympics?” people would be like, “no, but i saw the 2008, 2012, and 2016 ones.”
Depends what's their age. In my circles is more like: "man, were 2004, 2008 and 2012 good competitions. 2016? Not so much. 2020? Haven't even watched it..."
This is one Olympics where the USA team coming in as the World Team Champions hurt them more than it helped... Romania and Russia were greatly improved from the year before, and I think the USA being the favorites may have made them a tad overconfident and impacted how they picked the team and created a lot of added pressure... There was no way to predict McCool would have the meltdown she did though... A fully healthy Chellsie Memmel might have made a huge difference also... When you factor the bad luck with those things plus the injury Kupets had, silver is not actually a bad result...
I'm glad they have changed the scoring it differentiates the athletes a lot more and if you aren't particularly artistic you can still score big with difficulty
@SkateNater I do see what you mean. However, just because you train in Russia doesn't mean you're Russian. I believe Nemov trained in the U.S. for awhile as did Boginskaya... they still represented their countries. Also, the Russian team never won a team gold medal up until last years world championships. In contrast, the Soviet team won almost everything. I just meant that it wasn't all Russian over the years and that's what the American coverage made it out to be.
I'm a trampoline judge, how the scoring system is now is similar to how we judge trampoline, except instead of averaging the execution judges score, we add them together then add in the degree of difficulty, so when the changed happened it was easy for me to understand quickly lol
You know, I think that Annia had enough height to be able to pull around a 2.5. I know that there were like....1 or 2 doing them at these games. Not that she NEEDED to do a 2.5 but it would have been interesting to see.
Start value at this time was 9.8 for a DTY. Judges are looking for form such as if their legs are kept completely straight threw the whole vault and if they don't cross their legs, if the gymnast has completed the twists/facing the horse when they land, if they are standing upright completely when they land or if their chest is folded over, how far they land from the horse, and if they land center or have traveled towards the border lines.
it's really annoying how they keep saying that "US is reigning world champions." I mean, yeah, but it's barely the same team. Most of the teammates were different from 2003 worlds
18 years later and I still think McCool should've been given a second chance. They had bigger meltdowns in the TF (Patterson's UB, Kupets' FX). I still don't think they would've won (come on, Romania was untouchable in 2004), but they would've closed some of the gap: - UB over Patterson (probably +0.3) - BB over Mohini (probably +0.1) - FX over Kupets (probably +0.2-0.3)
@sboudreaux27 mohini and annia both stuck their landings and had minimal deductions so they could have had higher scores. The Romanians are legends of course and their vaults were good but it was pointed out that they had some form issues but still scored higher. On ever other event, they rocked
karlysmakeupchannel Oksana is from Uzbekistan, her son had leukemia and couldn’t get help in her country. Germany had help so she lived there competed for them until he got better
American mistakes aside, Romania Had a better team at the Olympics...Marta picked the wrong gymnast to represent..Memmel and Swickert should have been there
@bananas1and2 i know im shocked by that to what is wrong with those judges the vault was very nice and good form in the air just a small hop on the landing but it still should have gotten a bigger score i can't believe it didn't
On my TV, Carly looked angry the entire events with those eyebrows the way she had them, yuck. Performance wise she was a tease, she'd do awful in some areas, great in others.
The romanians were overscored on vault, especially if you compare them to the american team's DTYs. The americans all had amazing form, and only Carly took a step. I love Catalina Ponor but her form wasn't nearly as good, she had a step, and she still got better than Carly. This isn't a comment on the overall winner and who was the best team, but i do think Romania was given gifts on vault.
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My favorite Olympics Team Final EVER. I can watch this over and over again.
Same.❤
Catalina, already stunning with grace and beauty. Now she's a queen. Too bad she couldn't end her career on a high note in Rio. She's such a strong athlete and came twice out of retirement to help her country.
she just won gold at the european championships
Man, Catalina Ponor has always been absolutely breathtaking. She had a similar build and upper back flexibility to Svetlana Boginskaya which lent them both a similar exoticism when performing.
Annia Hatch's vault was AMAZING. One of the best DTY's i've ever seen.
I said this was one of the best DTY ever!!
Crazy, nobody does it that good lately!
And I imagine these gymnasts had to transition from the old to new vaulting horse within their careers.
I love the introduction. It does each country justice
They didn't do that this year. Really takes away from the drama and buildup. Now they just flat out switch from swimming straight up to Gymnastics, go to the venue, and the routines start. You don't have time to really build up a story or get into it before it's already well under way.
+Michel Schweinsberg I agree they could have done way better. NBC had so many commercials and other stuff it takes away from the countries individual stories
@@chickchick0509 Shame, imagine a fluff of Shang Chunsong's story
I loved it too... But man, i just can't stop chuckling at the little digs the NBC announcers just can't seem to resist making towards the Russians, ya know, with their "Tempermental Queen & Aging Coach." With more recent years it has been constant comments about how Russian gymnasts have "lost so much of beauty & their artistry" & all the descriptions of Aliyah Mustafina's personality being "very 'strong & unique ' " & saying how she's "a diva." (Oh just come out & say what u mean already!! you're saying she's a bitch, lol)
Real cute guys....
As much as I love Russian gymnasts, it always bugged me how they say "for over 50 years the RUSSIANS have set the standard for excellence" instead of Soviets... many of the top performing gymnasts in those days weren't Russian...two of the previous Olympic Champions were from Ukraine. The Unified team in 1992 had Tatiana Gutsu(Ukraine)Tatiana Lysenko(Ukraine)Svetlana Boginskaya(Belarus)Roza Galieva(Uzbekistan)Oksana Chusovitina(Uzbekistan). They were one of the strongest teams in history.
Same, Russia never received a medal as an individual country till Tokyo 2020, they weren't always the strongest gymnasts
@@06UH Russia was always strong.
@@sanasgirl I didn't say they weren't always strong I just said they weren't always the strongest
Of Course the face of the 2000 Olympics, EKATERINA LOBAZNIOUK!!!
@Magen Castillo, she was Siberian. Not Russian.
Mohini is underrated! She was awesome
The music in the fluffs really makes it awesome :-)
At the time of the 1992 olympic games, Chusovitina was from Uzbekistan. She later moved to Germany to get treatments for her son who had leukemia. Because of the generosity that she received she eventually decided to represent Germany at the olympics. The first olympics that Chusovitina represented Germany was the 2008 Beijing games. She was on the unified team in 1992 and represented Uzbekistan at the 1996 Atlanta games, 2000 Sydney games, and 2004 Athens games.
I'm sorry, a 9.562?! That was a gorgeous vault, completely worth a much bigger score.
Definitely!
Yes I’m so confused with this vault scores,
Annia gets amazing distance on her vault, rare to see a vault landed that far down the mat.
Nada como la Gracia y la elegancia de las Rumanas y Rusas🎉❤
Adevăr incontestabil!
Speram sa fie din nou la fel de bune la urmatoarele Olimpiade.
this is my first time watching this olympics. ive watched 2008 and 2012 but thats it...wish me luck! lol
That music is awesome.
Arguably the best Romanian women’s gymnastics team that’s ever competed. They’re easily my favorite team.
I've loved the sport since 2012 and went back and watched major comps, but I really can't remember if I watched this.
That DTY from Annia Hatch fuels my soul. Unbelievable!
That’s the Simone Biles of DTY! If you catch my drift! Superb height and form
The end result - Romania GOLD!!!
@nicklex01: It's PM's Love Theme, from the Love Actually soundtrack. One of my favorite instrumental pieces ever and perfect for this kind of fluff!
Patterson eating her knees in that vault landing :))))
back then, each skill you performed had a value and all your skills would add up to your starting vaule with max of 10.0 then the judges would then take there deductions from there, so if your start value was a 9.8 for ex, then if its perfect max score would be 9.8 now, witht the A and B scores all your skills add up to a value like 6.1 for ex. then the execution judges then take deductions from 10.0 then add in the 6.1 so if done perfectly your score would be a 16.1
Romania is the BEST !!!
people started remembering the gymnastics olympics from 2008. if you ask, “did you see the 2004 gymnastics olympics?” people would be like, “no, but i saw the 2008, 2012, and 2016 ones.”
Depends what's their age. In my circles is more like: "man, were 2004, 2008 and 2012 good competitions. 2016? Not so much. 2020? Haven't even watched it..."
@@andreid.85682016 was amazing
I remember ‘04 but not 2000
This is one Olympics where the USA team coming in as the World Team Champions hurt them more than it helped... Romania and Russia were greatly improved from the year before, and I think the USA being the favorites may have made them a tad overconfident and impacted how they picked the team and created a lot of added pressure... There was no way to predict McCool would have the meltdown she did though... A fully healthy Chellsie Memmel might have made a huge difference also... When you factor the bad luck with those things plus the injury Kupets had, silver is not actually a bad result...
best fluff nbc has ever made.
Omg Cata was so young *tear*
was the video quality really that bad at the time?
lol not it wasn't.
the people who transfer analog to digital do a piss poor job of it.
I don't get the 10.0 scoring system
agreed! at this time a 2.5 twist is very difficult. Would have been cool to see more at that time
Oksana is from Uzbekistan but living in Germany now :)
Best team final ever
Romania is still a contender but the US is reigning right now, at Worlds and Olympics
Romania 😘😘😘😘😘
I'm glad they have changed the scoring it differentiates the athletes a lot more and if you aren't particularly artistic you can still score big with difficulty
i agree with your comment. There are good and bad things about the new code, but it does seem to be more of a fair scoring system.
But isn't that the problem? The artistry is totally gone but it doesn't matter since if you throw out the difficulty you win.
It's called ARTISTIC gymnastics for a reason...
@SkateNater I do see what you mean. However, just because you train in Russia doesn't mean you're Russian. I believe Nemov trained in the U.S. for awhile as did Boginskaya... they still represented their countries. Also, the Russian team never won a team gold medal up until last years world championships. In contrast, the Soviet team won almost everything. I just meant that it wasn't all Russian over the years and that's what the American coverage made it out to be.
why did Rosu not perform the Amanar? seems... weird, considering how amazing hers was in EF...
Maybe she prefers that vault. Some only train their second vault a couple times a week before competition
The double tsuk was her "safe" vault. B&B were not known for taking risks in team finals (see Izbașa in London doing the DTY and not the Mustafina).
I'm a trampoline judge, how the scoring system is now is similar to how we judge trampoline, except instead of averaging the execution judges score, we add them together then add in the degree of difficulty, so when the changed happened it was easy for me to understand quickly lol
if Octavian Bellu comes back to coach the romanians will be very strong again
agree! If she hadn't gotten injured the year before, I'd like to think she'd have an Amanar or DT Tsuk
You know, I think that Annia had enough height to be able to pull around a 2.5. I know that there were like....1 or 2 doing them at these games. Not that she NEEDED to do a 2.5 but it would have been interesting to see.
The vault scores for Mohini and Annia are so puzzling. What was there to deduct??
Jorge Bonilla start value very low
They both had landing problems and the highest would have been 9.8. No one makes the team now with that low of a start value.
@@jmlynch1961 Literally 75% of US team for Tokyo did DTY.
Start value at this time was 9.8 for a DTY. Judges are looking for form such as if their legs are kept completely straight threw the whole vault and if they don't cross their legs, if the gymnast has completed the twists/facing the horse when they land, if they are standing upright completely when they land or if their chest is folded over, how far they land from the horse, and if they land center or have traveled towards the border lines.
thanks!
Ana Hatch's score was really low...
Monica just make look so easy damn she great
She's been around a while, that's for sure.
Just realized how Jordyn Weiber looks a lot like Carly Patterson.
it's really annoying how they keep saying that "US is reigning world champions." I mean, yeah, but it's barely the same team. Most of the teammates were different from 2003 worlds
4/6 were on that team...
Romania’s vaults were way over scored!!!
Annia FLEW. I mean damn.
18 years later and I still think McCool should've been given a second chance. They had bigger meltdowns in the TF (Patterson's UB, Kupets' FX).
I still don't think they would've won (come on, Romania was untouchable in 2004), but they would've closed some of the gap:
- UB over Patterson (probably +0.3)
- BB over Mohini (probably +0.1)
- FX over Kupets (probably +0.2-0.3)
I think Patterson could’ve gotten .5
@@TheMajesticice01where?
USA's scores on vault were scored to low in comparison to those slop fest Romanian vaults.
@sboudreaux27 mohini and annia both stuck their landings and had minimal deductions so they could have had higher scores. The Romanians are legends of course and their vaults were good but it was pointed out that they had some form issues but still scored higher. On ever other event, they rocked
How can you say that when Patterson ate both of her knees, a few of her toes and half of the mat with that landing?
@dahighbar No Memmel verified routines on beam and bars at the camp before the games and after trials
the vault is a very low scoring event even if the start value is high
that is true the soviets were very strong, but Oksana Chusovitina is from germany, not Uzbekistan.
karlysmakeupchannel Oksana is from Uzbekistan, her son had leukemia and couldn’t get help in her country. Germany had help so she lived there competed for them until he got better
American mistakes aside, Romania Had a better team at the Olympics...Marta picked the wrong gymnast to represent..Memmel and Swickert should have been there
Still, if McKayla Maroney was in this time shed kick the living shit out of the vault.
Geez...Annia easily could've done an Amanar.
@bananas1and2 i know im shocked by that to what is wrong with those judges the vault was very nice and good form in the air just a small hop on the landing but it still should have gotten a bigger score i can't believe it didn't
@dahighbar Memmel was injured so she couldn't be there if she had wanted to. She was also hurt in 2008.
1:28 terin doing the ugliest sheep jump
Moceanu used to do a pretty bad one in 94/95 I'm glad she took it out cuz I loved the rest of her routine
On my TV, Carly looked angry the entire events with those eyebrows the way she had them, yuck. Performance wise she was a tease, she'd do awful in some areas, great in others.
Constanta, NOT Constantsa.
they were
Hmm... Temperamental queen and aging coach? Hmm...
Cry about something that that was said 20 years ago you silly unfrosted pop tart
Tim Dagget can shove it!
hahah romania won
@tekkenfan01 Stop bragging about the US. Every country has their own weakness
Romania was the best but it's the US now
The romanians were overscored on vault, especially if you compare them to the american team's DTYs. The americans all had amazing form, and only Carly took a step. I love Catalina Ponor but her form wasn't nearly as good, she had a step, and she still got better than Carly. This isn't a comment on the overall winner and who was the best team, but i do think Romania was given gifts on vault.
bbhouk1 Carly had a low chest. It’s a no no
Patterson almost landed on her fours :))))